PODCAST | It’s time to plan for the byes

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Lekdog Damo & Patch sit down to discuss trading for the bye-rounds, Jack Macrae and a bunch of attractive rookie options.

They also fight about all of Lek’s suggestions…time codes below.

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Time Codes:

00:55 – Manscaped Stories
04:45 – Lekdog finally did well in a round
06:50 – Supercoach positives for Round 7
09:50 – Supercoach negatives for Round 7
13:59 – TIN FOIL HAT!
14:10 – A bye round warning
17:00 – How many trades are the right amount of trades?
25:40 – Jack Macrae, is trading hima shark move?
27:40 – Rookies on the bubble
28:00 – Luke Strnadica
29:15 – Robbie McComb
29:42 – Paul Curtis, Toby Bedford and Oliver Dempsey
30:21 – Greg Clark and the funky bunch
34:40 – Upgrade Targets
35:11 – Luke Parker
37:25 – A Laird-like evolution for Jayden Short?
39:00 – Cripps, Petracca and Josh Kelly
41:40 – Hugh McLuggage
44:00 – Dylan Moore
45:00 – Ollie Wines
47:40 – Mark Blicavs (and everyone yells at Lek)
49:00 – Adam Saad (and everyone doesn;t yell at Lek)
52:19 – Time to cull some cash cows

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Shake n bake

I’m hearing Hewett might be another week.

Lazza

La La la La La La La La La La …🙉

Russty_

I was laughing so hard, I forgot to say….noooooooooo!

Nathan

Damn

demonsdelight

I am hearing you are right Shake Gotta keep him Looking at the best defender IMHO that I had all preseason but confident now his foot injury is over Tom Stewart welcome

Shake n bake

Hard to go past Stewart. I think Docherty will also continue to score well.

Russty_

What do you think of Pendles this year guys?…would be a super pod and is scoring well + DPP

Derek

Pendles is past his best

Russty_

As a midfielder yeah…seems to be going ok as a defender.

Shake n bake

Pendels the last couple of weeks has played 3qtrs off the half back line and goes in the middle in the last. I don’t think he’ll drop off if his role doesn’t change.

demonsdelight

Round 12 a problem with Doc

Derek

Carlton have last game on Sunday, should have every chance to play.

might even get named and be a late Sunday Afternoon out

demonsdelight

yeah and try to vc /c gawn and neale ,you will need hewett not p;aying .Think i might vc Parker with Neale

JohnDJ59.Black Flag

Daicos is my swing with Hewett and now Daicos is in doubt. Could be another round of filling donuts.

Leigh Piastri

Awesome work once again boys! Thanks for the tips and thoughts
Cheers!👊🍻

Russty_

Paddy didn’t really have concussion last week did he? He just failed the test.
Wasn’t missing the week just protocol and precautionary?

Damo

For all intents and purposes, failing the test means you have concussion under the protocols.

Russty_

Damo, you didn’t mention whether or not you shaved your balls like the other two?…lol

Damo

Silky smooth, Russty

I wasn’t in on the Manscaped promo. I was there when they recorded it, but it was mostly planned between Lek and Patch.

Russty_

Funny stuff mate, good to see JR has picked up a new sponsor partner.

Last edited 21 days ago by Russty_
tofaco

Agreed, love to think the boys get some financial reward for entertaining the hell out of us and possibly teaching some wisdom between bouts of Mark Blablabla.

Damo

😂😂

demonsdelight

Paddy is not a great s/c player anyway Russty I bumped him last week made enough for me

Russty_

Decent backup though mate with def rookies hard to come by, plus he swings with DeKoning and Voss for me 🙂

Lazza

Having Paddy and De Koning has saved me twice from donuts… they stay.. former flog comes in this week for O’Driscoll

Russty_

Yep think his flog days are behind him now mate, talk about him being a future captain now.

Lazza

Same as Russty for me .. Paddy is my swing man for now … I’ll be bringing in Sicily for O’Driscoll

demonsdelight

He had to count 4 numbers backwards Imagine Gator trying that He can’t count forwards especially 1966 lol

Russty_

Let’s just hope for his sake he can count the right ratios in his bathroom’s waterproofing areas lol, all Saints fans can count back to 2009/2010 when we blew 2 grand finals with out horrendous kicking!

demonsdelight

Once Gator reaches 10 he is knackered He has too much trouble removing his Cliffy Young gumboots so can’t rely on his toes

Shake n bake

Needed to get Kennedy on!

Derek

Early week trade plans:

OUT: Rachelle, NOD & Ward

IN: McComb, Curtis & Touk Miller

i feel Rachelle and Ward have a good score just around the corner, but their time has come.

Touk was almost in my team Round 1, little cheaper now, seems an easy trade in.

Petracca is my next choice, mainly for Melbourne’s round 9 & 10 games.

is anyone getting agree Clark early? I’m thinking to just wait a week but I have a problem at M8, either McComb, MacDonald will have to be on field (can be looped), maybe just get Clark for his onfieldability

demonsdelight

Yes derek I am getting Clark and Tom Stewart mainly for M8 coverage same as you

Derek

Stewart is out of my price range

Russty_

I’m getting Clark this week, and Carroll next week if he backs up, not interested in those other 2.
Do you lose your Def/ Mid swing if you trade out Noddy?

Last edited 22 days ago by Russty_
Derek

I’m keeping Daicos at M7 to keep swing.

Gibcus, TDK & McCartin to cover D6

Derek

Trading out NOD via swinging McCartin back to defense, so lose my Def/Fwd swing

demonsdelight

yep also going carroll

Derek

Pity no good cheap DPP

demonsdelight

Keeping Paddy for 50 or less doesn’t appeal to my set up I have Voss Skinner and SDK to cover the swing and I think Horse will protect him with less TOG plus resting him or medi ing him

Derek

we can blame the Chad’s knee

TommyC99

Best Defender under 570k who doesn’t have the first bye round? First thought was crisp as a pies man but am i overpaying for someone who doesn’t feel like a lock for top 6 defenders? Is there anyone else who i should be considering?

Damo

I like Scott Pendlebury as a defensive option, especially with his new DPP

Lazza

Over recent weeks that would be one of Sicily, Dale & Cumming and could add Vlaustin to that list too.

Derek

Vlastin is a nice call, especially if Short goes to the guts, the kick out duties are all his

Shake n bake

U could look at Rich

TommyC99

Bailey Dale would be my #1 but by the byes i should already have 3 doggies so 4 seems too many!

harryhoudinis

Great podcast team. I’m hopeful Short had a Laird moment and I’m putting him in this week. And I agree, plenty of rookies next week so going early on Clark this week. Like Patch, I considered him last week but didn’t follow through! If Hewett doesn’t play however like people are suggesting that may force a rethink. I do like J Kelly too but been burnt by him before so I’m cautious. Not this week for mine. Watch him score 150 again now.

Next week will be interesting as to best rookies out of Carroll, Hamilton, Rioli. Maybe triple downgrade. Not sure can consider Begg being such a young ruckman.

Last edited 21 days ago by harryhoudinis
harryhoudinis

Yep still planning to keep Hewett if possible. My logic for Short was there’s nowhere near as many DEF premos to consider whereas there’s a multitude that could end up as a keeper MID. So I like Petracca and Kelly at their price points too but Short is the winner this week, Clark comes in at M8

JohnDJ59.Black Flag

I hope people trade Hewett out, he will end up being a POD.

Rick Grimes

JHF goes because he’s putting up spud scores. 3 round average of 54. Can get the same output form a cheaper rookie who will keep the cash generation going. Bank or upgrade.

Russty_

Yeah with the likes of Martin doing so well, and now Clark..I don’t miss JHF, Daicos seems to have tapered off a bit too to a 70 ave

Rick Grimes

Daicos can stay if he keeps going 70+. He starts putting up worse and ill cut him.

Russty_

Bit of a crap AFL schedule this week, another overlapping Friday night game, 2 separate games on Sat starting at the same time, making people choose. You’d think they’d be able to do better than that.

SchittSangers

Sack em

Ben Watkinson

Really need help on this I’m struggling who to finish my mid with! Who you think will average more come seasons end Walsh or Laird?? 

Rick Grimes

I think they end up similar. We haven’t seen the huge scores from Walsh so far this season. Not sure of the respective ownership for each. But I’d be inclined to go Laird out of those two. Will remain a POD all year.

Lazza

Laird for mine … . Are $$ a major issue or do you already have Mills?

Lazza

I’m waiting till the byes to fill M8. I’ll be loopholing Clark and Carroll till then .. currently have Neale, Steele, Oliver, Miller, Green, Macrae and Cripps.. probably target Mills with Laird my “budget” option… mind you if Macrae keeps his recent form going he could become Mills … needs to extract the 🖕

Derek

That’s a nice midfield Lazza

SchittSangers

Wondering what to do with Jacko?
I can keep him and Turn Daicos into short at D6 or trade him to Parker

I’m wondering I don’t know whether Naarm coaches will think that both of Marshall and Ryder are a bit fragile at the moment and if we push them really hard in the first half, they might struggle in the 2nd half. Causing them to say to Jacko “You’ve had a week long holiday mate so get out there and go your hardest as a Ruck also playing midfield and don’t stop until you’re ready to spew” and Jacko will launch into one of his Freakish ability showoff games and smash out 120SC before half time.

OR

Will he suck and spend most of the game as forward with 75pts.

The first scenario isn’t unlikely we all saw what Jacko did to the 2nd best team in world in the final game of last year and, Max has been going hard for the past couple of weeks and could be up for some managed minutes.

Daicos has become unreliable as an onfield option even in backline and Short is supposedly going to get more midfield time, although I don’t know how they will do that with Dusty added to the team

Rick Grimes

I suspect Dusty plays forward a lot as they ease him back in.

demonsdelight

Daicos to Short would be more safe SS. I am not sure Jacko will get too much more share of the ruck.They will more than likely cull Weideman and go with Brown Macdonald and use Jacko as that 3rd tall.

JohnDJ59.Black Flag

I traded Jackson out to Parker last week to avoid a donut, if I still had him, I would probably hold if I had Dixon at R3.

SchittSangers

Thats the way I am leaning John

JohnDJ59.Black Flag

Getting in either Short or Parker would be a good upgrade.

SchittSangers

Looking like Gorgeous George might be having another week off to answer some of the requests for signed photos without his shirt and marriage proposals.
So, I need short without him I will be relying on two off Daicos, SDK, McCartin ideally I’d burn a trade to bring in the slowburn McComb or go early on that Carroll kid and get the cash to turn McCartin into Short

SchittSangers

Currently I swapped
Jacko for Preuss coz I think Preuss can make another 100k in a few weeks and give 100+ ave.
O’Driscoll for Carroll and I have to put Carroll on field but can loop with Gresham and Dixon i.e if Dixon gets 70+ plus I will put Gresham at M8 instead of Carroll.
McCartin to Short and Daicos or SDK cover for Hewett

Leaves me with Daicos D6, Carroll M8, Martin F6
If George comes back next week I’ll cashout Daicos and turn McDonald into Parker assuming Parker doesn’t increase by more than 40k

TommyC99

THoughts on Isaac Heeney this week? The fact he looks a lock for top 4-5 fwd is the appeal, but BE of 130 scares me a bit.

SchittSangers

3 of his scores so far this year have been 130+ BUT he is only averaging 98 over his past 3 games and his last 5 against suns he has averaged 95 with only twice 100+. In his last 4 games against essendon whom he plays next week he is only averaging 66.
He might get 20k cheaper before the byes

Bucks

Thoughts on Dan RIch? Im really making an effort to go bargain hunting when upgrading this year and Rich fits that bill. Few concerns thant come to mind are his lack of ceiling so far, also does Coleman take points off him? Another thing worth noting is i’ve only got 2 spots left in def (plus whitfield) and am targetting Hall and Stewart to complete my defense, is this some i should be thinking about or do i cross that bridge when i come to it?
Thanks fellas!

Russty_

Stewart for sure mate but Hall I’d be a bit iffy on with his hammys, Rich has been ok without being great, what about Dawson or Dale?

Bucks

Thanks for the reply russty!! I love dale as an option but ive already got macrae and dunkley, and envision english being must own when hes back so 4 doggies is probably too many!
I think the 5 defenders i have narrowed down to are: Crisp, pendles, Rich, dawson, sicily. As a pies man i’d love one of the first 2 but dawson, rich are the fallen premo options

Kat

Im looking at Dale as defence upgrade Bit of a POD

JohnDJ59.Black Flag

I don’t mind Dale, it will be between him and Sicily as my last upgrade in defence. Looking at getting Stewart in this round.

Derek

i don’t think Stewart would fit into the ‘bargain’ hunting category.

Bargains are under $500k: Ryan $483k, Lloyd $496k, Daniel $483k, Ridley $480

Bucks

Hey derek! I would efinitely agree Stewart probably won’t ever be classified as a bargain unless he were to get injured. But i am hoping to save him a spot for him to become a last upgrade once i look like i have enough money to get to him.
Do you have any thoughts on the 5 options i’ve listed above?

Derek

Of those 5, I only have Sicily and he is still ok value.

not sure if Dawson is a ‘fallen premium’. Half a season of good scores isn’t a reliable history. On the other hand Pendles is definitely a premium, but he is also old and scoring will only go in one direction.

Rich has a lot of other good players around him fighting for less points as Brisbane spend more time in their forward half. Defenders in poor teams see plenty of the ball, just look at Ziebel and Hall last year.

Crisp should have been in my round 1 team, somehow Whitfield looked better value. He would be my pick, probably even ahead of Sicily because of price rise of Sicily.

Shake n bake

Clark won’t play

demonsdelight

what about daics Shake is he playing ?

demonsdelight

I am hearing afew magpies have the flu correct SHAke ?

Shake n bake

Didn’t train. A few players got up last week after having the same symptoms but l think Daics misses

Russty_

Yikes!..reverse trades, wonder how many more there’ll be

JohnDJ59.Black Flag

Wasn’t going early anyway, but he was at least an option, since I’m not mad about the rookies on the bubble this round.

JohnDJ59.Black Flag

Stewart or Touk as an upgrade.

Derek

I’m looking at filling another place in my midfield first. Rachelle & Ward at M7 & M8 is behind the couch stuff. Where one of Gibcus/McCartin/SDK/NOD filling the D6 roll is ok.

N Martin at F6 is good.

Therefore i’m looking at Touk (or Petracca) to slot into my midfield asap

JohnDJ59.Black Flag

I have Daicos M7, JHF M8, McCartin D5, De Koning D6. Touk and Petracca will finish my midfield. I usualy start with Stewart and feel that he will be getting out of reach price wise if I wait any longer. My fwd line is completed with Martin at F6.

SchittSangers

The 187 is in Stewarts rolling ave for another 2 weeks after that he starts getting cheaper.
IMO
A 91 average isn’t good enough for F6 this year but its great for m/f benchlooper

Daicos is 20pts better than McCartin, SDK most weeks so put him in your backline and get the best mid that you don’t have. I think that gives you a better points return than getting stewart BUT, my luck is not so hot atmo

JohnDJ59.Black Flag

Yes Stewart will start getting cheaper in two weeks time, but that will be after going up 40k-50k, then I would be depending on a bad game from him to get back to the price he is now. I had planned to get either Touk or Petracca in this round earlier in the week, but couldn’t decide between the two, so looked at upgrading my defence instead. O’Driscoll would be the one going out for either trade. I’m actually tempted to do nothing this week except getting rid of Rachele, who really needs to go.

SchittSangers

Stewart Current Price 606.6k
If Stewart gets
115 this week he will be 634k
110 this week he will be 632k
105 this week he will be 629.8k
100 this week he will be 627.6k

His best season ave is 107.6
He has scored more than 105 twice this year and less than 100 once
If he scores 110 for the next 2 weeks his price will be 637.9k
If he backs up those 2 x 110 with a 130 his price will be 612.47
If he averages 110 for his next 3 games his price will be 603.4k
If he ave 120 for his next 3 his price will be 616.8k

This week and the next 2 weeks are the worst possible time to buy Stewart but the most extra that you will pay is is less than 30K

JohnDJ59.Black Flag

OK thanks for that SS, I might wait to get Stewart then and just do one downgrade.

SchittSangers

Yeah. either of those for anybody who can give 105+ average is a very good deal

Derek

NOD, Rachelle & MacDonald Should go first, just need 2 rookies to go up to Touk.
McComb & Curtis?

SchittSangers

Who can say? Some rookies take a few rounds to ‘find their feet’ eg Gibcus and othersare so fuul of adrenalin that they star sraight away and then fall in a Hole eg Rachele.
Is McComb a rachell or is he a Gibcus? I’ve gone for Carroll even though he cramped hard last week and had less than 70% Tog he scored 90+. He’s been at the club for a couple of years fighting injuries and covid and working very hard, the team know him and respect him and he should easily make 150k. McCombe might struggle to make 80k

Russty_

Good point about how rookies can be a supernova to start or a slow burning Gibcus/DeKoning type, I agree about Carroll but I think I might wait one more week to see what he produces this week, then next week it could be Carroll and Clark coming in for me.

Soothsayer

Hmmmm looks like they forgot to put the green tick next to my Captain!

Shake n bake

Will be finalised tomorrow 5.30pm

Soothsayer

Is something wrong with Neale?

JohnDJ59.Black Flag

No, because of the Eagles.

Derek

Teams for that game announcement tomorrow

Russty_

It’s also gonna be wet at the Gabba tomorrow.

harryhoudinis

It may sound strange but I think there has to be some uncertainty with Neale as captain. If he plays full minutes he might score 250. But if Lions are up by 100 points at half time- which could happen- they might take the opportunity to rest him a little

SchittSangers

That’s OK I’ve got Oliver, Steele & Cripps to play the next day and a non-playing Crow to loop with so Lachie will be VC

demonsdelight

Forgetting big Max SS

SchittSangers

I don’t have him yet I intend to swap Witts & Preuss for him and English during the byes

Lazza

Daicos named 😅
With Clark out, I need to select another rookie (I’m going early on Carroll).. seems many are going for McComb over Curtis … but what about going a week early on Rioli?
Rioli has DPP and a superior PPM. Not sure of the JS for any of them.
Thoughts?

Soothsayer

I’ve got Rioli because of DPP, tiges pre-re-structure and…..he’s a Rioli.

JohnDJ59.Black Flag

I like the look of both Carrol and Rioli, but won’t be getting them in early, next week, if they go well again this round and are picked for round 9, they will be traded in for my mid and fwd bench. McComb and Curtis, even though I don’t think they are that good, will be coming in this round so I can upgrade O’Driscoll to Stewart.

Nifty

Hey John.. Why get them if you think their no good? save your trades..

JohnDJ59.Black Flag

I want to get Stewart in this week before he goes up even more in price. I also need to trade out Dow and Rachele to keep the cash generation going.

SchittSangers

Short named in the centre John do you have him?

JohnDJ59.Black Flag

Yes.

Nifty

That’s ok John.. he just seems expensive atm..

Derek

What about Cooper Hamilton has DPP and only $102k, playing his second game? JS?

JohnDJ59.Black Flag

I have him in my watchlist, but he does play for GWS.

Derek

Rory Thompson is your man

JohnDJ59.Black Flag

In two weeks time and in the back line.

Russty_

Not sure he’ll score so well against a team that isn’t the decimated Eagles mate, happy to be wrong about that this week but West Coast looked pretty sad last week.

Lazza

Yep, I was going to wait a week too see how young Maurice goes till Clark got the WA plague 😁. still leaning that way but McComb doesn’t overly impress me either but he does help me net some decent cash. At some point I’ll need a loophole in the middle, so at $102k he could always fill that role if he doesn’t come on ..

Derek

No English or Hewett again

demonsdelight

Expected that

The Ranger

Thats 4pts for who ever plays me in Leagues this week!

Russty_

Just looking at McComb v Carroll’s stats, McComb looks like a bit of a butcher with his D/E from 2 games, with quite a few clangers.
Carroll’s game was impressive, mostly kicks, 8 marks, 5 contested possessions, 4 clearances, only 1 clanger. D/E was only 63% but his 95 points was scored from 68% gametime.
I think I’d rather go a week early on Carroll than McComb or Rioli.
Hopefully Carroll stays when Hewett gets back….anyone with any Carlton insight know?

Lazza

Carroll is in my team at the moment .. Pretty sure he will get more games wether Hewett plays or not.. Voss is a fan ..

Russty_

I’m thinking bring him in this week Laz but it sure screws my bye round 12 haha. So who is Carroll replacing in the Blue’s midfield when Hewett is back?

Lazza

Good question.. Not sure …I’m thinking he gets a game ahead of Dow and Cottrell and maybe Owles and Durdin if he can play fwd. certainly if he plays well again this week he can make some solid cash quickly.
Gotta take into account his first game was against North, only slightly better than a ravaged West Coast… might be smarter to wait a week. 🤔

Shake n bake

Won’t be back till rd 10 the earliest

Russty_

Where did you hear this Shake? I thought he was listed as a test

Shake n bake

I knew earlier in the week. Had that relayed to me. I knew he was going to be longer than one week that’s why l moved him on straight away

Russty_

Thanks mate appreciate the info