PODCAST | Round 3, It’s Time To Trade!

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Lekdog and Patch talk about all things trading and trade boosts ahead of the most important round of the year.

Prices begin to change in Round 3 so we need to nail our decisions here!

Time Codes:

01:30 – It’s Trade Boost time
02:40 – Who impressed?
04:30 – Who depressed?
06:30 – Injury updates
13:30 – The ruckline is the forwardline now?
16:00 – Max Gawn, hold or trade?
20:00 – St Kilda bad vibes
21:00 – Maximising cash generation
22:45 – Must-have cheapies (Defence)
29:45 – Must-have cheapies (Midfield)
37:40 – Must-have cheapies (Forward)
44:00 – Value trade-in targets
45:18 – Cripps…tell me about him
49:00 – Underperforming players, can we trade them?
51:25 – Overperforming players, do we target them?

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The Ranger

Great pod lads, thanks.
Whitfield, Gawn and Sinn OUT
Hewett, English and Cripps IN
Someone talk me out of it…

demonsdelight

3 almost prems there Ranger maybe Jackson?

The Ranger

I’m looking at it as going from two keepers to three. Version 214A of my preseason team had Hewett, Cripps and English in it but I went with a more GnR set up. Five trades after two rounds is bloody awful but with Rowell, JHF and Daicos at M6-M8 I can focus on def and fwd for a while.

Derek

i’m with you NDD, Gawn needs to go.

i’m resisting Preuss (he can’t be any worse than Flynn was on the weekend) and looking at either Jackson or English (like the idea of swinging them to the forward line)

Gawn to Jackson lets me go Mead to Cripps.

Gawn to English means i also go Whitfield to Hewett to get cash to go Mead to Cripps.

Either:

OUT: Gawn & Mead IN: Jackson & Cripps
or
OUT: Gawn, Whitfield & Mead IN: English, Hewett & Cripps.

I’m liking the first option. Jackson will make more money, English could get Steph Martin back and take points off, Jackson will only get better, plus i’ve already got plenty of shares in Jackson in my draft teams

Derek

i was thinking of holding my premiums and instead looking at the rookies i missed, like Stephens, Xerri, Hinge. But like my Gran says ‘a dollar saved is a dollar earned’. what is the point of creating all this cash generation from rookies when i’ll just lose cash with Gawn?

Russty_

And also, the extra you’ll have to pay for Cripps, Hewett and English/Jackson after this week. May as well get the one’s you want now.

Derek

saving money is like making it (tax free)

Derek

not sold on Hewett. He hasn’t ever scored this well, i think he has a new role, but it is Hewett, clearly overachieving and i’m not going to back him to continue all year. something is wrong. I’m backing Whitfield to outscore for the year

Russty_

Fair enough mate but he was typecast as a tagger, just as Steele was, I think that puts a serious scoring blocker on a player, when their sole job is to shut someone else down. Maybe his new role is, being the midfielder he wants to be.

Derek

Or will he become Carltons tagged like they got him for?

The Ranger

Was he simply underused and underrated at Sydney? The Sydney mids have always run pretty deep, they couldn’t even find a role for Titch!
I’ve seen enough to think he’s good value at his price.

MAW Bullants

Not sure where Carlton declared Hewitt was recruited as a tagger?? Fake News……..

MAW Bullants

You don’t lose cash on Gawn if you don’t trade him??

Derek

its the ‘opportunity cost’ of missing out on the price rises of Jackson/Cripps/Hewett

YellowNBlack

Ive so far traded tom mitchell/whitfield/sinn to a brayshaw/cripps/xerri and im loving the look of the team now… still have gawn for now but more confident he will turn it round than mitchell or whitfield so theyre priority for me to get out!

Russty_

Sounds good Y&B, although Titch and Whitfield will probably bounce back…Cripps and Brayshaw are super hot right now.

Derek

i’m going to back Whitfield. temped to get Hewett, but i don’t think there will be much difference at the end of the day

Russty_

I’m backing him in too, hoping he makes a comeback this week.

Marto from Bonbeach

“”The ruckline is the poor man’s forward line and we are all poor men on this blessed day” Atch, P.

Absolute gold guys thanks for the ripping pod

Russty_

The great and venerable Atch.P, my favourite Philosopher in Uni 😉

tommyc99

Hey lads, keen to give it a listen on the commute to work tomorrow!
Apologies if this question is answered in the POD, but what are people doing with Whitfield? I’ve already got hewett and only have 26k in the bank so going up to a rolled gold premo isn’t possible!

Russty_

Evening Tommy, not much moolah to play with mate, I’m gonna hold for now, surely he can’t get worse so must get a few decent scores soon I reckon. You could go Blakey or Bowey but they’re both risky picks.

harryhoudinis

I’ve changed my mind all week but I’m holding. He’s a proven gun and 23 possies isn’t terrible, just didn’t equate to a good score. I don’t think there’s a plethora of good alternatives at this stage either

Jack

Hey guys great pod although I do agree it has left me wondering a lot more.
I currently have C Curnow and SDK on my forward bench and I really like the looks on Nic Martin while he sits at 102k with Merrett missing a fair few weeks but I’m stuck between who misses out. If Carlton are who they really are I can see Curnow having a good year? SDK idk about does he get many games this year? Any advice?

Srixi

If Curnow is on your bench then you have too much coin on your bench

Lazza

Hey Jack, best to trade in Martin next week .. if he clocks up another good score he’ll be a must have rookie and on the bubble.
Is there anyway you can move SDK to DEF as part of the trade ?

Jack

Hey Lazza the only person I can swap SDK into the backline for is P McCartin and I don’t really want him sitting on my bench in the forward line. I have H Chapman on my bench in the def that I really want to downgrade but there isn’t any def rookie that I don’t have. Would it be silly to trade SDK for Nic Martin into the Fwd and maybe bring back SDK into the def to downgrade Chapman next week…?

Paul

If that’s the case and you’re set on downgrading Chapman, then why not trade Chapman, sub SDK in his place to def and bring in a fwd rookie like Martin?

Paul

Mate save yourself a trade.
If they’re the moves you’re set on then just trade Chapman for Martin.
Hit trade on Chapman, then sub SDK into his place in def, and bring in a fwd rookie like Martin.

Jack

Thanks for that legend I didn’t realise you can do that 👍🏼

Jack

👍🏼

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Fearthebeard

Gday community. I’ve pretty much got my squad as I hope but One question.

Would you give up Gibcus for the west coast rookie at 102k in defence if it means you can get xerri in? I had him up till last team trades and couldn’t fit and regret still lol.

Russty_

Absolutely Beardy, Gibcus and Durdin might not make very much coin at all, and will be mega-slow burns unless they have a few blinders.

holty01

Nice POD lads

Lazza

Enjoyed the POD guys … food for thought.
I’ll be making a couple of trades as per the script… still tossing around Jackson ..

Derek

How do CD work out a players position (For DPP changes)?

is it where they start at the centre bounces? or is it their ‘heat map’?

Russty_

Not sure mate but I would think it would be heat map, and then to get to a certain percentage average per game.

Derek

if it was a heat map, all of North and Crows from last year would be defenders

tofaco

solid gold mate

Eli

Great Poddy!
So, the issue of Having Rowell and Whitfield but not having Neal, Cripps or Hewitt….
For sure, it’s worth getting Whitfield OUT and Hewitt IN but what about Short? Can afford one of Ehitfiled or Short!!……can a team survive without either one of Crippa or Neale this year? I’m thinking Neall might be a must have but who to cull?? Have Gawn…………
Also, thinking about Durdin OUT and Xerri IN but coin is a factor
thoughts?

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Russty_

Hi Eli, I reckon Neale is much more of a must have than Cripps, crippa’s going great but who knows how long that’ll last, whereas Neale kills it when he’s fit, I have both luckily and Short. My advice would be try to get Neale Cripps and Hewett this week.

harryhoudinis

Agree. I’m jumping on Cripps but if it was a choice I’d go Neale first. But I already have him

Eli

Yep I rate Short – had him last year – went Stewart and Crisp with Whitfield for some reason! Not a bad effort getting all those guys first pick Rusty_!

Russty_

Are you biting the bullet and getting Crippa in this week Lek?

Russty_

He does look back to his magnificent best again, great to see.

tofaco

So he’ll be down with covid next week I guess 😉

Eli

Agreed! NeaIe is a SC beast when he’s fit! I can definitely get Neal but would need to trade out Rowell and Whitfield for Neal and Hewitt. I already have Oliver, Steele, Macrae and Miller so no room for Cripps AND Neale. I knind feel like Whitfields BIG ceiling days are gone, witht the way GWS are playing now. Short would be a great pickup but I’d have to go Cripps and Short instead of Neal and Hewitt…..tough!!

JohnDJ59.Black Flag

Neale is a must, he was the best value play in the midfield, get him in.

Pieman

Debating between
OUT serong, gawn and O’drisoll
(Safe-ish) IN cripps, Jackson and hewett 40k leftover
Or
(Cash-gen) IN cripps, hewett and brodie through putting hayze at R2 with 215k left over. This option’s making me sweat but the 215k in the bank for a corrective trade is tempting me to have a crack

Russty_

Hey Pies, I think option 1, you give up one keeper for hopefully potentially 3, Brodie’s going ok but don’t know if he’s a keeper yet.

Pieman

I was thinking the same but his 100pt game with 60%tog got me tempted.. and if he’s not a keeper im thinking he’ll make me 100k+

Russty_

True, he’ll make some nice coin, I wouldn’t be comfy having Hayes as R2 but each to their own mate, there are lots of options to choose from and that has to be a good thing.

Eli

Keeper for now – No Fyfe means more mid time for Brodie – if he gets more game time look out!

Maverick

I’m really torn with what to do with Titch he’s gone back to back 80s. And genuinely He looks so bad! I don’t know if it’s that injury and lacking match fitness or a role change under Sam Mitchell but he’s playing alot of a forward role too.

But you don’t jump off uber premiums. What do we think about going down to a Cripps or Brayshaw?

Russty_

Hi Mav, he doesn’t look too flash, even when he’s getting plenty of possies he doesn’t score well, I’m sure he’ll bounce back but when? Think I might be jumping off Uber Premo Gawny 🙂

Maverick

G’day russty.
Yep completely understand jumping off max if it allows you to fix holes in your team else where. I’m glad I didn’t start gawny. Grundy and English for me!

I’m thinking this week…
Whitfield -> bowey
Titch -> Brayshaw/Cripps.
Gives me a nice 434k bank too if I go crippa. But I have a serious man crush on Brayshaw haha

Maverick

Actually I think I’ll go Whitfield -> hall & Titch -> Crippa with 127k bank

Russty_

Yeah that’s less risky mate, I started with Bowey but only cause he had the JS, his price wasn’t ideal cause you’d probs have to trade him out again. Hall’s killing it and Crippa’s back to being uber it seems.

Eli

I wonder if Crippa keeps up the big scores with both Cerra and Walsh being back this week?

Mike

Bradshaw is a jet. Has a high kick to handball ratio. My worry is that Cripps is way too handball happy compared to Bradshaw… and just about every other midfielder out there.

Michael

Mitchell is a spud… Get him out, he’s not a keeper…

Derek

Titch was the first pick for me in the preseason. he missed the AAMI and i jumped off.

Russty_

Dodged one there, wonder when he gets back to super piggy?

Maverick

Yeah he was first picked I jumped off once the groin niggle come too light then 5 minutes before the Hawks bounce I went Andy Brayshaw too Titch, ouch haha

Now I gotta figure out if I go too Crippa or Brayshaw now. Titch isn’t bouncing back anytime soon he isn’t fit he looks so slow and almost uninterested.

harryhoudinis

I’m doing Titchell > Cripps. I think in R3 you’re allowed one sideways trade at least. Then you put the cue in the rack and back them in. But the price differential between them is huge. It doesn’t come up very often for 2 proven guns

JohnDJ59.Black Flag

Titch needs to go, Brayshaw will be a keeper, not sure about Cripps. There was always a chance Hawthorn would try and blood some new players in the midfield and so effecting Titch’s scoring, saw a bit of that pre season, was the main reason I stayed away, that plus the fact he had that injury. Plenty of red flags.

Leigh Piastri

Thanks guys! Love your work! 👊🍻🍻trading in Hewett and Xerri! 👊🍻

Russty_

Yo Lek, will we have a Panic Room this week mate?…it didn’t appear last week.

Russty_

Bewdy thanks!

Lazza

Based on your proposed trades, how many rookies will you have on field?
I’ll have 7 : 2-2-0-3.
Seems weird so early in the season 🤔

Hewett at D4, Rowell M6, Jackson/English R2, and Coniglio F3.

Russty_

4 for me Laz, JHF, Daicos, Rachele and Hayes

Lazza

4 😳 .. hmmm, none in DEF. 🤔 I counted McCartin as a rookie, but he’s not really is he. Just priced as a rookie, which is what I was really referring to.
Won’t that create a cash gen problem for you?

Russty_

Oh yeah ok 5 including McCartin, I don’t worry about those sorts of things…that’s why I’m shit at supercoach haha

holty01

Same as you Lazza.

demonsdelight

Mine are exactly like yours Lazza Who is your D3 mine is Hall. Trading and a strong bench look crucial and I am tempted not to bring hall in but jackson plus Bowery burning a trade though Heck maybe I should just have all dees except Daw Saints can have him

Russty_

Is that Bowery New York you’re bringing in?…that’s a big trade mate, the logistics of it!
Hey have you traded your entire Draft side away yet mate? any originals left? 😉

Lazza

Hi Neil, my D3 is Short. D1 is Crisp, D2 is Ryan.. was a bit nervy with D1&D2 after R1 as you could imagine..

JohnDJ59.Black Flag

Six for Black Flag, two in def, Hinge, McCartin, two in the mids, JHF, Daicos, two in the fwd line, Rachele, Hayes.

BJSO

Cashed up after some correctives last week so out with Gawn, Hough & Ward -> in with Neal, Cripps & Heeney. Only trouble is burning 5 trades in two rounds however team is looking well balanced now.

harryhoudinis

Getting rid of 2 rookies who can still make plenty of cash?

holty01

Although there are a couple of players I’d love in my team, I don’t really have anyone I want to drop. Heeney is tempting (even though I said I wouldn’t pick him again) but the only one I’d think of getting rid of is Ridley. Heeney may score more then Ridley by season’s end but don’t think it’s worth the trade. I think I’ll wait for later in the season when it’s time to upgrade. One trade for me, Mead to Stephens.

Derek

Who are your Rucks?

holty01

Grundy and Witts

Animal

Rayner -> Xerri
Owens -> Stephens
Chapman -> Hewett

Thoughts community?

harryhoudinis

All look very solid

Mike

Owens played well in the magoos. Deserves another run soon. I’m keeping him.

Lazza

Just had a look at the Gameday matchups:
I have Colin The Instigator in 3 comps first up. 🙃
I notice there is a small difference (pre-trade) in teams across the board. Between 4 and 7 players only. Going to be tight games this year.. Choice of Capt likely to be the key differentiator.

demonsdelight

Differentiator ? sounds like a word from Colin The Instagatot’s made up language. Gator’s always hard to beat he left over 200 on the bench with no loop but sure to be competitive Lazza . Even tearaways like Holty and Russty are vulnerable NDD

Lazza

Hahaa… Mind games Neil.. I like it.. even with my 181 on the bench last week I would have lost most games..
I like the SC forecast scores at the moment.. has me winning all games… cept the scores include my trades and not the opposition’s.. 😐

Russty_

I agree Neil, my goal this year is to make the top 16 in my own League 🙂

tommyc99

I have been pretty set on holding gawn but im seeing a lot more comments than I thought of people trading him and now im second guessing myself! Was honestly going to not trade at all this week which feels wrong being ranked 20k, but outside of Gawn and Whitfield underperforming, and not owning Cripps or xerri im pretty happy with my side. Is using no trades through 2 rounds being ranked at 20k a bad thing as im trying to play catch up to some extent?

Russty_

If you don’t have to or want to trade now Tommy you’ll have plenty of time and trades to play catch up later, guys are doing a lot of trades they might regret now because of FOMO and not wanting to fall behind the pack too far. What really matters is how strong you finish the season, that’s where you can really make up some ground on your opponents and the whole field.

Shake n bake

Only 1 trade this week. Whitfield for Bowey. With Salam out can’t see much difference in scores between both. Only extra $230k in the kitty. So my team will pretty much stay the same.

harryhoudinis

Only question with Bowey if things change when Lever and Hibberd come back. But thanks to his 151, he may make plenty of money before then anyway

Eric

Would I be crazy to trade out Parish to Brayshaw, so that I can go Whitfield to Hall? Or do I just go Whitfield to Sicily?

harryhoudinis

I wouldn’t trade out Parish. He’s had 34 possies the last 2 weeks in beaten teams with poor efficiency. Particularly with Zerrett out now too, he’s the main man

Eric

Yeah fair point. I just need to find the money somehow haha. I originally had Brayshaw and Hall in the team but I changed it after Hall went down in pre-season. So it was a corrective trade of sorts but I know, never trade out a healthy premo!

I just have no clue who to trade Whitfield too. Not really sold on Sicily and I already have Hewett. Ahhhh the joys of supercoach haha

Eric

Yeah that’s probably what I’m going to do. I did say it was a crazy trade haha.

Eli

keep Parish for sure…..bye bye Whitfield!!

harryhoudinis

Ok have decided on my trades this week after much contemplation. Until I change my mind again tonight!
Titchell > Cripps. I know Titchell will come good but if Cripps’ body is right, he is a proven top 8 mid and too hard to resist at this price
H Chapman > Hewett. Chapman was speculative at best only because I couldn’t afford a premo at D4. He’s clearly not going to make much cash and Hewett will both score better and make more.
I’d really like L Jackson but would have to sacrifice Preuss but I still think he has a role, hopefully this week. And to do that I’d have to make it Chapman > Bowey instead. Bowey may be brilliant but a big risk for a 9 gamer whereas Hewett clearly has a role change and a more mature age bracket.

BILLY

GREAT PODCAST LADS.
SOMEONE GIVE ME SOME CLARITY!
Whitfield, Gawn and Ward OUT
Hewitt, Cripps and Heeney IN
OR
Whitfield, Gawn and Hough OUT
Hewitt, Cripps and Xerri IN

BILLY

*both trades are made via subbing Hayes to R2

Tigernut

I’d be getting Xerri, Cripps and Heeney in out of those 4 players. Xerri will make more coin than Hewett. If you can. Ward should stay if you trade out any non playing rookies. Cash generation! Hewett will drop in average with Cerra back this week and Walsh in there, Cripps also on fire

Hopeless

not sure what is wrong with me but I have Big O as my R2 ? hold ?

Rick Grimes

Hold. It’s not clear who the top rucks are. They play Norfs, so chance he scores well.

Russty_

He’s only had the one mediocre score, the other one was good.

Rick Grimes

Anyone know the extent of Darcy’s injury? Meek is on the bubble, scoring decent enough and will generate cash. You’d need him to hang around for a few weeks tho.

Derek

i bought him in a couple of my draft teams for this week. thats about all.

dontblushbaby

Any thoughts on J. Caldwell @ 266k ,has scored 90 & 91, with Merrett out for at least 6 weeks , he could average over 100 ?

Rick Grimes

I’m very interested. Thinking of trading him in for Ward, especially if he gets dropped.

David C

I’ve brought him in even though it is risky, Bombers had him sitting in the forward line for a period last game (also Parish). But with Merrett and Langford out you’d have to think he’ll get more mid time.

Lion Tamer

great move if you have the space, he dominated a game in preseason but he is also fragile

SamuraiPizzaCat

Another good pod!

Considering the following trades this week.

Whitfield, McGovern, Ward OUT
Hewett, Xerri, Rowell IN

OR

Whitfield, McGovern, Berry OUT
Hewett, Xerri, Cripps IN

Holding on to Gawn. Missing Hinge (not sure if he’s a must have?)

Russty_

option 2 for me Pizza Cat

Derek

if Preuss plays the next 4 games, will that be enough to get him DPP? (assuming he plays Fwd/Ruc) or is there a rule where you need to have played all the 6 games?

Lion Tamer

roles are reassessed after round 6 not after 6 games

Derek

thanks LT. so there is a fair chance he will get DPP by round 6.

Sam

Hey guys,

I somehow started my season with Mitch Duncan, knew he was missing R1 but though the ball winning talent was just too much for me to pass on, he seemed very slow and a bit lost against the bloods.

I know he has the extra week before his price changes, but my pre-season oath to never trust Heeney again is starting to wane, so far I’m thinking:

Whitfield – Bowey
Hough – Cripps
Duncan – Heeney or Xerri before the major price jump

Any advice?

Cheers

Derek

with the magic of simple mathematics, i can see 3 possibilities

Trade Gawn & Owens to:

1) English & Hewett
2) Jackson & Cripps
3) Pruess & TMiller
4) Gawn & Stephens (means only one trade Owens to Stephens)

anyone have a strong feeling on any of those 5 options?

Rick Grimes

I like option 2. Not sure why people aren’t discussing Jackso more. He’s getting enough ruck time to put up a minimum 70-80 a week. Then add in the other touches and goals he racks up. He seems almost assured of a 90+ average. Gawn seems pretty content to share the role and they are winning.

Lion Tamer

100% Agree Rick but supercoaches are mostly a cowardly bunch who would rather wait and see and then post about how they were gonna trade in player X or reversed the trade at the last minute etc.
Winners move early, non-winners wait and see what happens.
Why anybody would have started without Cripps and Hewett is a perfect example

Derek

i guess you’re trying to tell me, that i should have stuck with my risky R2 strategy that has served well (mostly) over the years, and the first time i go set ‘n forget it goes south.

JohnDJ59.Black Flag

I didn’t start with Hewett and Cripps because I went with Bowey at D4 and Rowell at M5 which is where Hewett and Cripps would have had to go with the structure I started with. Plus the $245,300 saved allowed me to afford the high end rookies that I have on field. I’m only looking at Hewett now because Whitfield doesn’t seem himself and we’ve had two more games to see how Hewett fits into the Carlton midfield.

Derek

have we seen how Hewett fits into the Carlton midfield? Walsh’s first game after an injury and Cerra was missing last week, haven’t seen it in full flight yet and all the moving parts.

Plus how do they fit Paddy Dow in?

Do you think Hewett will outscore Whitfield by 30 pts a week? (thats my price of a trade)

JohnDJ59.Black Flag

I’m looking at the cash component of the trade Derek, I get $103,600 back, plus Hewett goes up in price by 50k in the next two weeks. So I have my 150k cost for a trade. Scoring wise, right at this moment Hewett looks a better bet.

JohnDJ59.Black Flag

So do you think I would be better off getting in Hall or Short for Whitfield.

Derek

I’m not a Hall fan, but I do have Short

Lazza

Hi Rick, I’m not discussing Jacko… want everyone else to take up Witts or English. Jacko is recruited to my team this week to partner Grundy. My side looks all the better for it.

JohnDJ59.Black Flag

Option 2, since they are two players that I am looking at. If I was trading out Max, Jackson is the only player that I would be considering. I agree with Patch, the ruck options that you could downgrade Max to are just terrible.

Derek

i like the option of trading in English, Jackson or Pruess who will be able to swing to the forward line later in the year once we work out who R2 should be.

i’m more likely to trade Gawn this week than keep him

harryhoudinis

I’m still bullish on Preuss and as you said earlier will probably play this week. He’s a proven scorer when he actually plays so let’s hope he gets an extended run. English is good but I’m worried about all the talk of Doggies being one dimensional up forward with Naughton so they may bring Martin in, push English forward more.
Jackson is probably the best pure option but I have other needs this week so won’t bring him in. Plus I had Preuss from the start so don’t want to trade yet. But if cash is less than a worry this week Jackson’s a keeper and Preuss won’t be

Russty_

Option 2 for me also Derek.

Tophawk

Hi Derek, What is the 5th option? LOL I like option 2. Both will skyrocket in price and are in hot form.

JohnDJ59.Black Flag

I’ll be doing either one, two or three trades this week. (1) Whitfield to Hewett. (2) Max to Jackson. (3) Ward to Cripps. Only the first one is locked.

Derek

obviously 2) & 3) are a combo. I’m looking at those two this week and backing Whitfield to come good.

JohnDJ59.Black Flag

You are nearly correct Derek, in that I can’t do (3) without doing (2), but that doesn’t mean I can’t do (2) without (3).

Tigernut

G’day community! What a year in supercoach so far. Have we ever seen a player average 169 after the first two rounds? Lachie Neale is on fire🔥. He has to come into my side with that form. The overall rankings leader is averaging 2560 after two rounds 😳. Wow just wow, that’s insanity. Could we see a weekly leader crack the 3000 point mark? Neale must be captained with his form…?

Derek

my first year of playing supercoach, i jumped on Brent Stanton early after he started the season with 180, 134. 93, 161, 71. 154, 164, 142 (140 ave). he averaged 80 for the rest of the season.

Russty_

Those were the days…when Nick Riewoldt was averaging 120 in the forward line.

River Person

Weighing up a couple options mostly want to get Hall into my team for Whitfield (who I was never keen on to begin with) & I want to get Bowey in who will quickly rise in price. Will have to replace Chapman who seems to be struggling (a round 1 score boosted by that spoil but still not overly impressive).
Option 1:
OUT: Whitfield, Berry Chapman
IN: Hall, Bowey, Ginnivan (I do not rate him that much tbh so will keep benched)
Remaining Salary 26.9k
Is this worth doing? the main goal is to get Hall into the team but Caldwell is looking like a better replacement for Berry, but I wont have enough $$$ to get Hall

Option 2:
OUT: Whitfield, Chapman, Steele
IN: Hall, Bowey, Brayshaw
Remaing Salary 60k
Should never trade out premiums so most likely will go for option 1 BUT is it worth making the downgrade to a player who could score potentially more & also pocket the cash that comes with downgrading, also St Kilda seem to be struggling & Steele doesnt seem to be having the same impact (a serviceable score of 110 last week though so im happy to hold), also Brayshaw comes up against a potentially decimated WCE side next week, something to think about.
Also not keen on trading Gawn to facilitate the trade

Russty_

If you do option 1, who replaces Berry in the midfield?
I’d say if you mainly play for Leagues, do 1
If you’re all about the rank then 2..more points now, keep up with the leaders.

Kev 2 3

Hey Guys, Which of the following do you think is the better trades:
A. Martin, Rayner, Whitfield to Brayshaw, Hewitt, Xerri
B. Martin, Rayner, McGovern to Heeney, Hewitt, Xerri
Leaning towards A.
Cheers

Lazza

Hey Kev, option 1 appeals most to me. It gives you two keepers and $$ for future upgrade and/or a potential F6 RUC dpp.
The only thing that would bug me is trading out Whitfield before McGovern.

Russty_

Yep agree with Laz…A, Brayshaw is white hot and Fyfe is out for 6 more weeks. Heeney has started out well but can be up and down.
Shame ya can’t do A and get rid of McSpudern instead of Whitty

JohnDJ59.Black Flag

Tough one, I’d prefer to keep Whitfield over McGovern, but would have Brayshaw ahead of Heeney. I’ll have to say B, but go with what you feel the most comfortable with.

Lion Tamer

Whitfield, Baldwin & ?? OUT
Heeney, Jackson & Hinge IN

Currently ranked mid 4000’s and I hope to improve on that with these trades

Russty_

Who’s the question mark?…I’m getting English and Jackson in this week 🙂

Tiggytrain

Option 1:
Whitfield -> hall
TMitchell -> Cripps
$127k bank

Option 2:
Whitfield -> bowey
Berry -> Cripps
Titch -> Brayshaw/petracca
$118k in bank

Lazza

That’s a no brainer for me Tiggy .. Option 2.

Tiggytrain

thanks lazza! I thought so too but wasn’t sure if berry trade is wise or not. He may make money yet?

Kat

As part of potential trades, who do people think is the better to trade out Ward or Durdin. Ward makes less cash this week but think he has the potential to be a more consistent scorer. Undecided

Lazza

Hey Kat, for me it’s down to how many rookies in each line we think will be available .. I still have both and have no need to trade them yet.
However, being a small forward Durdin should score the least, but with the lower cost he should make more coin. Even now Durdin’s BE is -11 and his price is predicted to increase 15% whereas Ward’s BE is +16 and is predicted to increase this by round 7%.
So, if I had to make a choice it would be Ward and it would also give you and extra ~$37k to use.

Russty_

Hey Kat, for Durdin to only get 6 possessions from 87% game time that scares me for his cash generation, so he’d be my first choice, Ward has been getting the ball, just butchering it a bit..(last game very low D/E and 5 clangers).

JohnDJ59.Black Flag

Durdin.

JohnDJ59.Black Flag

I’m a bit torn with one of my trades. Is it better to downgrade a under performing premium ( Whitfield to Hewett ) or upgrade a non playing rookie to a playing rookie. ( Voss to Xerri )

Russty_

Hi John, if you think Whitfield will be ok and score the same or better than Hewett in the LONG RUN then I’d keep him. I think the coaches with Xerri will have an advantage over those who don’t as he scores pretty well and will easy earn 150k plus. If you have another loophole player you probably don’t need 2.

JohnDJ59.Black Flag

I’m going to use Owens as my VC/C loophole player now and it works really well with Stephens at M9. The only problem with trading out Voss is he’s handy swinging with De Koning and I can use him as a loop if one of my def/fwd bench players scores really well.

Russty_

Yeah I get it, that’s why I have Voss also and Long in the mids, so I have loopholes on 3 lines and can swap Voss with Dekoning or McCartin but by me doing that, I am sacrificing a scoring/ earning rookie. I’m gonna sit on Whitfield and hope he turns it around, but I also punted McInerney before last week to Hewett and happy I have him. I’d also like to have Xerri but I’d rather have Jackson more.

JohnDJ59.Black Flag

Yea, a bit to weigh up, comes down to a chance of better scoring, not leaving points on the bench, or an extra player making cash and another warm body in reserve in case of outs. I also looked at Xerri instead of Jackson, but that would mean having Hayes at R2, not something I could live with, even if its only 4 weeks. I wish I could afford Hewett without trading Whitfield, but it’s not possible.

Russty_

So if you go Whitfield to Hewett this week, what other trades are you doing John?

JohnDJ59.Black Flag

Max to Jackson and Ward to Cripps/Brayshaw. The cash savings from the trades and the increased scoring are very tempting and I feel I would be heading in the right direction. Or I could end up doing nothing, but I feel that would be a cop out because I couldn’t make my mind up.

Russty_

Max to Jackson right, I did the same, so which one will it be John…Cripps or Brayshaw?
Brayshaw is a pod but obviously much more expensive, maybe a pod is a good thing, there are a lot of similar teams in the leagues.
P.S Edit…Nah you can’t do nothing this week John, gotta do something! lol

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JohnDJ59.Black Flag

HaHa, I did say I wouldn’t have Cripps in my team, so probably Brayshaw and a nice 6% POD he is. The only problem going Brayshaw over Cripps is that it just about maxes out my cash reserves and I would be betting against the 37% (and rising), of teams that have him.

Russty_

Well whatever you decide to do, is the right thing for you John, never say never with players you’ve never agained sometimes. Cripps is a good example of that…plenty of coaches would have him now that said never again last year. Jeez the luck involved in picking a god starting team is a thing isn’t it? pick the right half a dozen and you start scoring well without having to trade much, pick the wrong 6 and you’re playing catchup from day dot, and are down on points.
I’ve been on the luckier side of the ledger starting this season but it could all change pretty quickly.

JohnDJ59.Black Flag

Brayshaw looks pretty good at M4 I must say. Yes getting the starting line up right is so hard and it doesn’t help when players you had in your team, but left out, go bang at the start, looking at Petracca, Brayshaw, Heeney and not having them is hard, but we have to live with our decisions and make the best of it and hopefully get this weeks trades right.

Derek

I hate trading premiums. Usually only do it because of injury. But Max has a Role Change. That’s good enough for me.

Jackson is the most likely, his ruck work isn’t great, but he usually rucks against their second string ruckman, but Jackson is like another midfielder, second leading in clearances behind Oliver but ahead of Petracca.

Ward to Cripps will probably be other trade even though I had him all last year.

If Flynn isn’t named and Preuss is solo ruck, that might interest me.

JohnDJ59.Black Flag

Same on the premiums front Derek, it usually takes a injury for me to trade and trading Max doesn’t seem right, considering how long he has been in my team, been there from the start of 2018. But I intend to get Max back once one of my fwd rookies maxes out and move Jackson to the fwd line.

Kat

Moving Jackson to the foward line at a later date is my thinking as well John and that way it doesnt quite seem so much trading out someone to trade them back in at a later date. This way its more of a swap of a Ruck for a Fwd haha

JohnDJ59.Black Flag

That’s how I’m trying to justify my decision to trade out Max.

Tiger

Flynn struggled against the Tigers last week and needed support. Most teams now play 2 ruckman and l believe Preuss will play with Flynn/ Briggs or Hogan.

Ezza

Would love to hear some thoughts on this trade if anyone could help??

Whitfield, Sinn and Preuss out…. For

Bowey, Skinner and Heeney via English in the ruck from the forward line.

I started Preuss because I thought he’d be good for cash gen but Liam the coach killer Cameron is too unpredictable. And it gets me Heeney.

Russty_

Yeah Ezza but you really don’t know if Bowey will end up any better than Whitfield and if Skinner is any better than Sinn, also if you were going ahead with those two, I’d be tempted to save 65k and take Jackson instead of Heeney. Preuss is a pretty good chance of playing this week I reckon.

Ezza

All valid points there. This is why I’m so torn mate. If I went with Jackson, I could probably go Whitfield to Short. And yeah I don’t love the Sinn/Skinner trade but I needed that little be extra to make all the trades work.

Thanks for the advice Russty. Really appreciate it. It’s gonna be a long night I reckon lol.

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Russty_

No worries Ezza, Whitfield to Short sounds solid, Heeney will be up and down mate, so will Jackson but Jackson is so good to watch and will just get better and better, could even relegate Gawny to a full time fwd lol

Derek

Preuss should play this week and might end up the cash cow you were hoping for. He should get DPP round 6

Del

Defiantly wanting to bring in Cripps but will have to trade out a rookie, most likely J ward or B Hough due to no DPP in midfield. Not sure what to do with Gawn, Z. Bailey and Whitfield.

Option 1
Whitfield – Hall
Ward – Cripps
Bailey – Skinner (moving P. McCarti to FWD and skinner to DEF bench)
$16,400
Option 2
B. Hough – Cripps
Z. Bailey – Heeney
Gawn – J. Bowey (Sam de koning to FWD bench, J Hayes RUC 2)
$84,900

Note I have the main cash cow rookies in MID/FWD but worried about cash generation with such little in the bank

Russty_

Option 2 for me but you could also consider Jackson instead of Heeney.

Tophawk

I agree with Russty. Option 2. Go well del! Cheers TH

Derek

option 2. but thats because i’m not a fan of Hall at all.

Jess

Asking for honest thoughts on Docherty? Already have Hall, Short and Hewett. Can’t afford Stewart or Crisp. Know he’s a risky pick without a preseason and some potential to be rested, but if we ignore that (willing to take the risk) he looks to have a high ceiling and good consistency.

Lek you paused for a second before saying no to Doch in the podcast. Since absolutely nobody has mentioned docherty anywhere, would you be able to elaborate in case I’m missing something obvious?

Russty_

I think it might just be the risk factor Jess, unfortunately for Sam, his illness could re-occur any time, but he is still in 5% of teams so would be a good pod if….he stays there for the season.
Ryan might not be a bad alternative for a bit more cash.

Lion Tamer

Get him in. proven performer, spiritual leader that the whole team loves and trusts. He worked his butt off to be ready for round 1 and played full minutes in VFL practise games to prove his fitness.
I would get Hewett first though

Weneverweaken

Heeney or Jackson?
My Rucks are Grundy, English (Preuss) and Hayes in Fwd line

JohnDJ59.Black Flag

Heeney. But only because you already have English and are mainly thinking about the fwd line.

Derek

Heeney if you can take the injury risk and the rollercoaster scores

Russty_

Every team should have 5 Ruckmen…Jackson ! 🙂

Lion Tamer

Hahahaha

Daniel

Gibcus or Ward to Cripps?
Or keep both and upgrade Hough/Voss to Hewett instead?

Derek

who do you want more, Hewett or Cripps?

If Cripps, will trading Gibcus get rid of your mid/def swingset?

Derek

where is the PANIC ROOM when you need it!!

deep breath…. this is my Thursday morning team trade thoughts.

Gawn to Hewett (via Hayes to R2 & DeKoning to F8)

Mead to Cripps.

This will depend on Hayes being named this week. Give me a chance to look at Preuss and bring him in to R2 in a week or two. Preuss may eventually get DPP and go forward as my ruck back up.

I’m ok with Hewett at D5 instead of Gibcus, but i wasn’t keen on trading Daniel or Whitfield to Hewett, don’t think there is much to gain. Hewett may stay as a D6/7 all year.

Gawn clearly has had a role change and we need to sit back and see who will be the potential R2 for the season.

Russty_

The panic room is here now mate, with a great cover shot haha, hope Will Smith’s slap wakes Whitfield up.

Josh

Mcgovern and Chapman out for hayes and Hewett? Thoughts??? Hayes will go bench for rachele

Lion Tamer

I didn’t see the Melbourne game last week so I have some questions about Bowey that all of the Melbourne supporters might be able to answer.
Where did he get most of his kicks?
When Lever & Hibberd come back will his role change?

JohnDJ59.Black Flag

Hibberd is still at least 3 weeks away, Salem even more, not sure when Lever comes back, this week or next. I think he has taken on the Salem role for now, so we have a good four weeks to get some cash generation and a 75-95 score range.

Russty_

Mostly intercepting from fullback to the wing, he seemed to be everywhere.

Ezza

Whitfield to Maynard anyone?

Ezza

Thanks mate. If only I knew what his actual role will be. If he plays midfield he good be a great pod. But I don’t know! I already have Crisp lol.

I hate being an OVERTHINKER hahhaha

Ezza

Yeahh I know. I’ll just back Whitfield in. If he spuds it again, then I’ll be back on here overthinking haha.

Lekdog – The voice of reason. Haha Love ya mate. Cheers for the help 👍🏼

tofaco

Just battled the system for twenty minutes to modify my trades, finally reversed Chapman OUT and ditched McGovern instead. I felt like a magician selling life insurance while picking pockets – the system is NOT designed for mid-round corrections. But Chapman should make a few dollars then I’ll evict him next week.