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Johnsonator

DEF: Crisp, Dawson, Sicily, Sinn, Aleer, Worrall (Gould, McDonagh)
MID: Macrae, Steele, Titch, Zerrett, Neale, Berry, Daicos, Mead (Johnson, MacDonald, Bergman)
RUC: Gawn, McInerney (Visentini)
FWD: Duncan, Taranto, Bailey, Coniglio, Rachele, Hollands (McBride, Skinner)
Ignore rookies as this is my first draft but starting to think it may be missing an uber-premo in DEF (i.e. Hall or Lloyd).

demonsdelight

Great first up effort yeah Sicily is the one I dont like maybe Lloyd or Dale if he is too dear NDD

Derek

Agree. I like Sicily, but too many risks to be a season long keeper

TRIGGA HAPPY

I don’t mind Sicily. Apparently could have played late last year. With a full uninterrupted preseason should be cherry ripe rd 1. Is elite by foot and with his disposal. Value there.

Derek

Not sure he will get the SC friendly role he had in 2020.

Dean

Sicily will play only defense and is a superstar.
R2, R3 aren’t great picks.
1 mid premo too many, there’s so much value and money to be made from mids.

Taranto is 5050. Duncan injury prone.
Overall a pretty bang average team

Foodie

Which of his 5 premo mids wont be top 10 mids at seasons if not injured?
Neale is most probably better value than any other player under 600k. It doesn’t matter which line the points are scored on and Neale should do better than Dunkley/Duncan/Lloyd

Russty

Looks like SC is open for business!…and with 35 trades this year, should help with the inevitable carnage forthcoming. Good luck to all this year, well done to Johnsonator for being first cab off the rank to post a pre-season team, solid effort mate.
Maybe Sicily could become Lloyd if you downgrade Berry to a solid rookie, who none of us know who they will be yet lol. Your team looks like mine after I made about 450 changes.

David C

Yep, it’s open. Loving the fact my team from the Team Picker has been tranferred to My Team. Is that a new feature? Or did I miss it last year?

ThiccGtrain

Def: Lloyd, Crisp, Sicily, Sinn, Wilmot, Gould (Fahey, Bergman)
Mid: Macrae, Steele, Oliver, Walsh, LDU, JHF, Daicos, Hobbs (Johnson, Goater, Clark)
Ruck Gawn, Reeves (Edwards)
Fwd: Duncan, Martin, Heeney, Gresham, Cogs, Howes (Murley, Curtis)

as always is the case this early don’t take much notice of rookies, Sicily down back is a wait and see in preseason, if he’s rebounding everything then he is an absolute lock. LDU in the middle I’m not sold on but took a bit of a step up last season and I reckon can lift again. Reeves come on late and he should be the number 1 ruck all season. Could get burnt by heeney and cogs again but for their price it’s probably worth it if they hit. Gresham is my big one this season, if the poor fella can keep away from injuries he could be the steal of the season with the amount of midfield time he should get.

all thoughts are welcome

Derek

Is LDU a keeper? Do you expect to have him all year, or is he a stepping stone. $462k is a lot to pay. What do you think the very best scenario would be, average?

Jake

LDU is nice, he shares a similar role to greenwood and cunnington which might hamper his potential but im interested to see how they juggle those three along with Simpkin, Horne etc.

supersaint

First comment on this page. Tweaked my team a little due to the rule changes. I think there is reward for picking premiums in the forward line, instead of midpricers (butters, heeney, bailey ect).

def: Lloyd, Hall, Ridley, Coleman, o’driscoll, mcdonagh (gould, skinner)

Mid: Macrae, steele, oliver, Mitchell, Neale, Daicos, Clark, Mead (johnson, bergman, macdonald)

ruc: Darcy, McInerney (hayes)

Fwd: Dunkely, Duncan, rayner, coniglio, curnow, hollands (kelly, long)

Derek

Not sure if I’d start with both Macrae and Dunkley. Two big dogs.

Dean

Very different roles though.
Round 1 to 6 last year Dunks scored
113 132 132 117 148 132.
Macrae went
118 137 108 137 146 140.
Multiple people can score well from the same team

Foodie

Dunkley only ave 70.8 when he cam back after injury on 2021

BigMickSauce

DEF: Dawson, Ridley, Sicily, Milera, N.Answerth, O’Driscoll (Gould, McDonagh)
MID: Oliver, Zerrett, Guthrie, J.Kelly, Neale, Horne-Francis, Daicos, Clark (Johnson, Hobbs, Sheldrick)
RUC: Grundy, Witts (Preuss)
FWD: Duncan, Butters, Walters, Rayner, Cogs, Rachele (Hollands, Parker)

First draft and a bit of risk in there. Answerth is a pre-season watch, but I like him to take Birchalls spot.

demonsdelight

Not liking no LLOYD but ANSWERTH is gold .They love the ball in his hands at Brissy and at 246 is cheap Great call

BigMickSauce

Thanks mate. Lloyd is still under consideration. Have the money to turn Ridley into Lloyd if need be. Eyes are on Milera and Sic in the pre-season. Could downgrade Milera to upgrade Sic if things aren’t looking good.

Derek

Answerth now on watch list

Foodie

Really? What are you basing that on dd?
No games in 2021, 9 games in 2020 for an ave of 56, 17 games 2019 for an ave of 62.

A bit of research identifies him as a 182cm injury magnet that comes out of contract this year. Pretty sure the Lions will want to see him last a couple of games in NEAFL before they give him a run at senior level and with that injury history I can’t see Fagan structuring an early season game plan that includes him.
I certainly don’t see anything in his history to suggest the Lions will suddenly start using him as a first choice distributor out of the backline.

Will Kelly are far better option IMO and he’s DPP and half the price

Dean

Mid price city here

Mike

D: Lloyd, Hall, Milera, Bowey, Answerth, Marchbank (O’Driscoll, Gould)
M: Macrae, Steele, Oliver, Brayshaw, Jelly, JHF, Daicos, Ward (Pedlar, Stephens, Clark)
R: Gawn, Grundy (Benning)
F: Heeney, Gresham, Rayner, Coniglio, Curnow, Rachele (Smith, Hollands)
Bank $77.1k
Clearly there are lots of risks, and an entire pre-season to play, so I’m sure it will alter dramatically from this starting point. Midpricers were the way to go last year and I’m looking to lean into that a little bit more this season.
Thanks for reading and any feedback; and, good luck coaches 🙂

Derek

Wow, that forward line…..

Russty

The thought of picking Rayner and Curnow scares me…not for me.

Foodie

Great to see an optimist post a team. Ignore the nay-sayers Mike just because a player has been injured in the past doesn’t mean that he’ll get injured every time he plays.
Last year one of the regulars from this site put in a team that was almost entirely players coming back from injury and that team did better than his ‘safe’ team.
Heeney is probably the only player that I’d dump from that fwd line he is way too erratic in his scoring for my liking. Look at 2021 for example he averaged 108.5 after the first 2 rounds then he ave 49 over his next 4 games, then 108 for his next 3 and, 51 for the 3 after that and 86.2 for his final 8 games

Ian

Def: Lloyd, Hall, Dawson, Day, Milera, Hinge (O’Driscoll, McDonagh)
Mid: Macrae, Mitchell, Neale, Serong, Rowell, Brodie, Horne-Francis, Daicos (Pedlar, Clark, Uwland)
Ruck: Darcy, Witts (Hayes)
Fwd: Dunkley, Taranto, Butters, Gresham, Rayner, Hollands (Gollant, Long)

Adam Farrelly

LLOYD, SICILY, HOWE, RIOLI, MILERA, MCDONAGH

STEELE, MILLER, OLIVER, WALSH, SERONG, JHF, DAICOS, CLARK

NIC NAT, GRUNDY

DUNKLEY, T THOMAS, GRESHAM, COGS, BRODIE, RACHELE

Russty

I like the Serong pick but not a fan of the Howe one, I think he’s past his best, Hayden Young or Will Day might go well this year.

Foodie

Rioli at D4 might be an error in 6 years of AFL he’s never ave more than 63 and only 6 of his 18 games L/Y were over 70 plus five were under 50 ten of them were under 60. I’d look at turning him and Howe into a Crisp or similar and a rookie

Jacob Nelson

DEF: Lloyd, Hall, Ridley, Whitfield, De Koning, Skinner (Gould, Dean)
MID: Macrae, Steele, Miller, Oliver, Neale, Daicos, Sheldrick, Clark (O’driscoll, Stephens, Mead)
RUC: Grundy, Big O
FWD: Heeney, Butters, Gresham, Cogs, Newchurch, Hollands (Kelly, Parker)

Derek

Just for fun, this is my first draft

Defence:

Lloyd, Ridley, Daniel, Whitfield, Lukosius, Gould (Kelly, McDonagh)

Lukosius will be a wait and see. If he is forward forget about him, but if he is in defence taking the kick ins, he will be 100+

Crips, Stewart & Short are in consideration to possibly take Daniels place

Midfield:

Macrae, Steele, Oliver, Titch, Mills, Neale, Mead, Pedlar (Clark, Robert’s, Johnson)

The top 4 are in a league of their own, a step up from the rest, couldn’t decide which not to have, so got all.

I love Mills (even more than Lukosius). If over his injury, he will dominate swans midfield and improve on his 2021.

Neale won’t have another 2020 when he had 96% TOG, but he will do better than last year when he struggled with back problems. Won’t be far from top 12 mids and his price too good.

Don’t think I’ll be touching the expensive rookies, usually don’t, but might stretch to Hobbs if he plays round 1

Rucks:

Grundy is better than he showed last year.

I love a risky R2, no exception this year. If Pruess is #1 ruck at GWS he will be my R2. Hayes is a sneaky chance to play a lot of games this year.

Forwards:

Taranto, Coniglio, Brodie, Hird, Holland’s, Skinner (Mitchell, Gollant)

$18k left

Taranto is the only Uber in the forwards that doesn’t have a massive risk. Dunkley, Dusty, Duncan, Heeney, Butters miss too many games, Chad won’t be getting midfield, and no one else I’m convinced will be too 10. This is where the rule changes will be significant, look for a Danger, Fyfe, Kelly, Bont, Sloane type to get FWD status later.

At moment, I’ve got Cogs and Brodie, two midfielders that should be decent stepping stones or maybe be the Ziebel of 2021.

Rely on having enough rookies, if not will look at Gresham or Raynor to fill the gaps.

Overall, my keepers have good resilience, trying to avoid the carnage of last year.

This will be fun tweeking the team for the next 50 days

Thanks fellas

PS look out for the Survivor Groups soon

David C

I think Taranto might be stuck in the forward line for the first 5 weeks while Toby is suspended. Reckon he could be cheap by about round 7. Question marks on all the premium forwards this year suggests some mid price madness on that line.
Luko training with the forwards and Bowes with the midfield. Keeping an eye on GC to see who replaces them in the backline.

TRIGGA HAPPY

Yep reckon good ol Leon will play Tarranto fwd esp with green out for 1st 6

Derek

Taranto is a better midfielder than a forward, hopefully GWS agrees.

TRIGGA HAPPY

That is one powerful midfield. Boy oh boy wowee skinny up fwd.
As always will come down to what rooks show a bit preseason and look likely rd 1. Hird and Skinner? Wait and sees I guess. Unless u know something u aint telling us. 😜

demonsdelight

Skinner is well worth a look Took mark of the year and plays like Brander kpp fwd/def/ruck They got him to play

Derek

If Lukosius is playing forward, he won’t be in my team. Might switch him for Raynor & Gresham in forward line, see how rookies go.

ive heard Skinner is a chance to play early, Hird was close last year, so was Chung. The rookies will appear, but where?

Russty

I’d take Gresham over Rayner regardless, at least Gresham has proved he can average 80 over a few years, Rayner hasn’t proved any consistency at all yet.
There’s a good article about Gresh on the Saints website worth reading.

Jake

interesting strategy in the forward line, dont really agree with having some much of your salary locked in the midfield but i respect it. Lukosius is a cool pick though, thought about him especially with that dpp

Derek

My cognitive bias wants to have Lukosius in my team, but he needs to be playing as the kick in

I’m liking the idea of Answerth at D5, and Gresham or Raynor in forward line instead of a rookie, with some cash left over

Foodie

Mills is a massive risk of 612k hes only played every game in 2 out of 7 seasons and in the other 5 seasons he’s averaged 12.4 games p/year.
Petracca is cheaper and Wines is only $500 more, both of them scored 400pts+ more than Mills last year. Or Wash is only 25k more and sure to improve and he’s never missed a game

I disagree that Taranto doesn’t have a risk. If your F2 is fit and Tom green continues his development taranto could easily drop 10-15 off his average he’s an absolute butcher of the ball.

All the rest are good value or Rookies except Brodie who might struggle for a game. Tucker is moving into the midfield and Erasmus is a gun. I reckon Brodie might play a few in the WAFL to identify if he’s overcome his major game day flaws before they give him a run at senior level. Curnow is only $600 more expensive and far more likely to ave 70+ than brodie

Derek

When you put up your team, make sure you include the cash left in the bank

Tom

What do we think gang?

DEF: Lloyd, Hall, Whitfield, Sinn, De Koning, Gould // O’Driscoll, Dean

MID: Macrae, Steele, Miller, Oliver, Neale, Berry, Daicos, Clark // Johnson, Butler, Uwland

RUCK: Darcy, Grundy // Hayes

FWD: Dunkley, Butters, Rayner, Coniglio, Curnow, Hollands // Motlop, Parker

Last edited 3 months ago by Tom
Derek

What do you like about Berry?

there are a few options at that price m, including Constable, Caldwell.

anything you can give the community?

Tom

averaged 97 in 2020 and last year was ruined by injury. Picked as a more expensive rookie to make cash and hopefully score well at the same time! Have heard good things so far in pre season, will be watching closely though in the practice matches!

Derek

What was his injury

I had him in draft but didn’t take much notice of why he didn’t play

i also like Caldwell for exact same price.

not happy about them being in the midfield only, taking place of a good cash-cow rookie. Looking at same priced players on other lines such as Answerth, Brodie, Cognilio, Raynor.

will be keeping a close eye on him now, thanks.

Foodie

Major groin injury Derek. Without surgery and a perfect rehab you lose speed and power

Dean

I just can’t see Berry getting the big mid minutes he needs without injury.
Neale, Lyons, Zorko, McCluggage, Robinson, Bailey, Cockatoo and Rayner all being around the contest it probably pushes Berry to the forward line a bit more. Even there he’s up against Bailey, Cameron, Daniher, McStay, Hipwood, Coleman, McCarthy, Robertson.
Definitely can’t see Berry scoring too well or being consistent.

Foodie

He’s a gun when he’s firing on all cylinders Tom but I couldn’t find a single mention of him in any of the lions website articles since last season finished.
Plenty of talk about Rayner , Bailey, Cockatoo and ‘smooth moving defender’ Kaiden Coleman even a little bit about Darcy Fort making a big difference in the ruck and a reminder about Answerth who could be fit to play this year but not a single word on either Berry

Foodie

I like it Tom, I’d probably replace the dopey and unco De Koning brother with will Kelly and consider dropping Dunkley and Berry for Serong and Gresham but I like to take risks where there a chance of a great big upside

Ian

Def: Lloyd, Hall, Dawson, Day, Answerth, Sinn (O’Driscoll, McDonagh)
Mid: Macrae (C), Mitchell (VC), Neale, Serong, Rowell, Brodie, JH-F, Daicos (Pedlar, Clark, Long)
Ruck: Darcy, Witts (Hayes)
Fwd: Dunkley, Taranto, De Goey, Gresham, Rayner, Hollands (Gollant, Kelly)
Selected 2 premiums for each zone (1 Ruck), and just tried to find value for the rest.

TRIGGA HAPPY

I know it is only early but I see lots of teams with 2-3 rookies on deck in the backline. Might change in pre season but can’t see many of them playing rd 1 due to the simple fact that they are in top teams and will find it hard to break into, so may have to bide their time in the magoos.
Just a thought

Russty

I think we only get one decent look at them before the season starts so it could just come down to picking whoever is named, I’m hoping 2 of Kemp, Sinn, Mcdonough, Kelly and Skinner are there from round 1. Otherwise it’ll be a re-designed team on the eve of week 1 for me lol

Derek

Chung was close last year. What about Gould

Russty

The ever elusive Gould, ha…guess I’ll believe it when I see him named.

TRIGGA HAPPY

Isn’t he retired by now russty 🤣

Foodie

I think Kelly smashed the pies time trials and is doing everything right so he should be a safe bet. Jones leaving the blues has left a massive hole that I don’t think Spudd McGovern can fill and marchbank could break a toe kicking a butterfly so Kemp might get a look at it.
I didn’t pay much attention to Port L/Y do they have obvious holes down back? LachieJones will fill one of them if they do.
Same with the Bombers do the have a hole for McDonough to fill.
I’m hoping Will Gould will finally get his shorts dirty with reshuffle at swans after Dawson leaving and Jacob Wehr might get a chance to plug a giants hole left by Buckley

Fred

My starting principle is it’s easier to pick up the top defenders and forwards later as they won’t cost as much as the midfielders – and in the case of the forwards, it’s far from clear who they will be (particularly with the new rules that may lead to some gun midfielders getting forward status mid-season). So have gone big in the middle and for value elsewhere, emphasising flexibility. Preuss is covered by English, who averaged 100 in 2020 and won’t go backwards from last year. Obviously some (Brodie, Preuss, Sicily for eg) are speculative at this point – as are the rookies.
Def: Ridley, Whitfield, Sicily, Day, Answerth, Dean (McDonagh, Uwland)
Mid: Macrae, Steele, Oliver, Walsh, Neale, Gresham, Daicos, Clark (Johnson, Stephens, Roberts)
Ruck: Gawn, Preuss (Comben)
Fwd: Duncan, English, Butters, Coniglio, Brodie, Curnow (Hollands, Parker)

Derek

I think it’s the opposite.

pick midfielders to last all year so price change doesn’t effect their choice (unless injury and need to sell).

occasionally a mid will drop in price and make them appealing as a fallen premium, but there is usually a reason for that rice drop, either injury or form, neither is a good thing for a premium to have.

it is not usually the premiums you want that drop in price, ie Adam’s, Gaff, T Kelly

The top mids are the point engine room.

i had success a few years ago staring deep in the guts, especially if they are able to avoid injury, 6 deep for me looks a good option.

demonsdelight

5 deep in the mids leaves you short somewhere Assuming midpricers are out of the equation afterall they rarely succeed,def needs to go D4 rucks foolish to avoid any 2 of the top 4 which leaves the forwards Is going one premium ,Taranto Hawkins or Duncan (most probably) your answer Derek ? ONE of them plus Rayner AND Cogs plus 3 untried rooks is risky I looked at it and decided on 4/4/2/2 I have a lot of reservations about Cogs and opted for Jackson WHO WILL IMPROVE ON his ave 71 gives cover for GG AND if you treat Max and Jax as one they will give you 200 doesn’t matter who takes what off who My take anyway NDD

Derek

Anyway you look at it, 12 keepers seems the best way. It’s a stretch to say 13 unless your happy with a Butters, Sicily priced players

12 premiums gives a bit of room for 3 mid price stepping stones, leaving 7 starting rookies + bench

In years gone by I would look at the lower end of the top 8 and hope to pick up the expensive premiums later for cheaper, that allowed me to go 13 ‘keepers’ but it meant getting Adams, TKelly, Heeney types, hasn’t really worked out.

this year: Pay the Price

pick the best 12, all things being equal it doesn’t matter where on field they are, but all things aren’t equaL.

the main consideration is where will the onfield rookies be? this will counter-balance where the premiums and mid pricers will be.

that will ultimately determine how deep I go in midfield.

I don’t mind the look of the rookies available in the forward line, and the midpricers look ok as well.

if course, I can’t help but have a risky R2, this year it has to work!

Derek

Second read, I think we are agreeing

Keenbutclueless

With the top 22 players on average being a mid or a ruck, I think there is a good argument to go 5 and 2 there. That really leaves 4,5,2,1 or 3,5,2,2. Have played with both. At the moment with 3,5,2, I can have 4 600k mids plus Neale, Darcy and Grundy, plus Lloyd and Dunkley.
I have used Milera and Answerth so only 1 def rookie on field. In the forwards I gave Gresham, Rayner and Curnow, with only 1 rookie on field. 3 mid rookies onfield.
so 12 premiums, 5 stepping stones and 13 rookies. They are all cheap rookies all 123.9 except Clark at 117.3 and a loophole. Of course we will see what rookies are available and if I have to buy any expensive ones. But structure wise I am happy. Can I leave it alone for another month? Probably not!

demonsdelight

Those midpricers just rarely work I put a lot of faith in J Clark Drew and Houston HOPING. Of your 5 Keen Rayner is the only one with a tad of hope Of course some are needed in the forwards .This year i have set standards No less than 20 games in 21 or an exceptional record, age limit rules out cat players i liked and biding my time with prem injuries 4 weeks before I cull.. I have 12 ubers plus COGS – RELUCTANTLY AND RAYNER. This gives me a look at the better rooks I remember getting Clarry at 382k and Tracca at 440k and was rapt Looking for a bolter the only 2 I would consider are LUKOSIOUS and J McINERNEY from the SWANS BOTH DPP/ both will climb up the averages cheers NDD

Derek

I’m looking at 6/1 in mids/ruck

JohnDJ59.Black Flag

I currently only have 11 keepers and one of those is a mid priced player in the back line. So at the moment my structure is 4,5,2,0. The 5 mids are all over 600k and the fwd line has 4 mid priced players and two rookies on field.

Foodie

Personally I’d burn old man Duncan and get another keeper mid Fred.
Brodie wasn’t best 22 at the suns so I doubt that moving to Freo will make it easier for him to get a game early. I think they’ll probably give Erasmus a run before Brodie, Tucker seems to be the one moving into the middle to play Serongs role so that Serong can replace Cerra

Foodie

Nothing wrong with your structure, don’t fall into the trap that you must have X number of Premos on each line. Your theory is spot on the gun mids are more reliable scorers and usually higher scorers than defenders or forwards. I currently have Neale at M6 and Serong at M7 and Stephens from Swans at M8. Lloyd & whitfield, Sicily, Grundy and Treloar round out the premos.
I only have 2 rookies on field because it is easier to add named rookies and upgrade midpricers before round 1 starts than it is to drop non-playing rookies then downgrade premos and add midpricers just to have 29 playing

demonsdelight

If it is fact that Lukosious is training forward then he may well become an absolute must have After all he was a forward originally and though a better defender midseason he could be seleccted in 3 positions Now that is an advatage Either way he is back in my team -Out Lyons / rook IN LUK and Cogs NDD

Derek

I don’t think you can have triple DPP

you think he will score ok as a forward?

demonsdelight

Losing a tad of interest particularly with the need to get those 200 plus forwards in Bailey is interesting but stuck in that awkward price

Derek

I’ve thrown Answerth in D5, still need to research him and a rookie to Gresham or Raynor in forward line, and cash left over. Seems a nice balance

The Ranger

Afternoon all, good to see so many articles ready for consumption, thanks to all the contributors.

Just chucked a team together to get the ball rolling, def want few injury prone players this year as it killed me last season.
Finding it hard to make a fwd line that doesn’t have injury concerns tho…and this back line looks pretty skinny. Ah, well, its V1 of approx 436 versions I’ll have before the first round.
All the rookies are tbc except Daicos, the kid was afl ready last year, and I’m pretty comfortable with Raynor and Answerth as my mid price gambles. 36K left in the kitty.
Good luck to all.

DEF
Lloyd Crisp Whitfield Answerth Driscoll McDonagh DeKonig Gould
MID
Macrae Oliver Titch Walsh Neale Daicos Hollands McInnes Stephens Johnson Serong
RUCK
Gawn Grundy Hayes
FWD
Dusty Heeney Butters Raynor Smith Laurie Kelly Motlop

demonsdelight

Good to c u back son you would be interested to know Rayner and Neale were both in the best yesterday Like answerth .Trying to find out if he played Good luck this year Ranger

Ringo

This is the report from training for you. Rayner is really flying preseason.

https://www.lions.com.au/news/1051256/what-you-missed-from-men-s-match-sim

Derek

I’ve seen Answerth a few times, on the watch list for D5

Luke

Def Lloyd Ziebell Ridley Answerth Sinn Gould (Dean , Voss)
Mid Steele miller bont Walsh constable callaghan Daicos Hobbs ( ward Johnson Clark)
Ruck Gawn Grundy preussy
Fwd Duncan Martin coniglio curnow Brodie Hollands (smith skinner)

*Rookies subject to change before Rd 1

Luke

*116k left in the bank *

Derek

Ziebel is definitely a POD.

paul

The team that won last year suppermummers did not go in with midpricers only one in the midfield Tim Toronto. It went in with the solid simple structure of keepers 4/4/2/2 and only used 5 trades until round 6. Two trades were injuries to Danger and Butters which were replaced by Tom Mitchel and Oliver thus having the emphasis on the midfield until the byes. the four backs were doing well and the rucks of Max/Grundy were also set. The importance of getting the round one team was simple really using four backs which would be there all year and the same with the midfield and rucks. With the rookies this was also simple as they were mainly from 40/50% owned using up all the money with only 50k left. The forwards were always up in the air like this year with only solid forward Dunkley the same this year. What she did here was interesting was the focus was really on the forwards after the byes which were performing at the end of the season which is really no different this year as long as the forwards she had were doing ok which is a rick that i think will need to be taken again this year and made easier with five extra trades as long as covid is not a major issue. The importance of having the team set from the start saved early trades and enabled a full team at the end. therefore the importance of having the team set from the start is very important but simple really. People really do over think this i feel. the only thing i will add here is all the keeper were from different clubs except the two main Weston bulldogs players. I think this was because of the byes you do need to plan for the byes early as she got over 2000/1800/1800 around 5900 points over the three byes which is a lot more than what I got.

Derek

A lot of sense there.

im looking for keepers that are resilient, good injury history, good age

paul

I total agree the 12 you keep need to be able to last all year barring injury and from different clubs.

The Ranger

Thanks Paul, I might take a look at the 4-4-2-2 set up, I always go with 3-5-2-3 but the lack of reliable fwd options and the emergence of defenders who can be relied on to av.100 makes a change worth looking at.

paul

Yes i like Lloyd, Hall,Ridley,whitfield,Answerth
Mids Macrae,steele,oliver,neale,Cerra
Rucks Darcy,Nat
Forward 4 are a risk but it may pay off big time Dunkley,Gresham,Coniglio,Curnow.

paul

On the figures of last year I have to go Hall I know he will be 32?

Derek

I’m not taking any risks with my keepers. There will be enough worries with the few midpricers I’m going with

Jake

DEF: Lloyd, Crisp, Hurn, Millera, Wilmot, O’Driscoll (McDonagh, McVee)
MID: Macrae, Oliver, Walsh, Keays, Treloar, Horne, Daicos, Stephens (Parker, Clark, Burgoyne)
RUC: Gawn, Naitanui (Visentini)
FWD: Duncan, Bailey, Gunston, Cogs, Baldwin, Callow (Edwards, Peris)
Pretty happy with the first draft, i think Keays has a great shot of being in that 110+ echelon if he can clean up his game a bit
Got just under 200k spare so if Gunston, Millera etc. get injured i can cover them easy and the rookies are placeholders for now. Really struggled to find any enticing options in the mid between the 350-500k price mark, so some thoughts on that as well as my first team draft would be greatly appreciated.

Derek

Is Hurn a typo?

Jake

Nah he’s in there for the time being

Dean

Injured Sloane In 2021, no Matt crouch.
Wouldn’t expect Keays to have the same output this year

Foodie

I reckon Bailey might be the new Zorko and I’m tossing coins between him and Treloar everyday. Gunston could be a great POD if he holds together

Tophawk

Tophawk returns for season 2022! G’day everyone! Bring it on. Have had an early play with my team and this is what I have thrown together. The rookies are not to be taken seriously just yet. Plenty of changes to come there as we approach the preseason.
DEF: J Lloyd, J Ridley, J Howe, N Answerth, J Sinn, W Gould (G Mc Donagh, C Dean)
MID: J Macrae, J Steele, S Walsh, L Neale, T Dumont, N Daicos, J Ward, B Hobbs (I Hollands, G Clark, C Parker)
RUC: S Darcy, B Grundy (A Akuei)
FWD: J Dunkley, Z Butters, Z Bailey, J Gresham, C Rayner, S Coniglio (W Kelly, S Butler)
Pick it to shreds!!

Cheers, TH

demonsdelight

welcome back TH Haven’t seen Howe in any team No injury players this year and 12 uber prems who will be there at the end Like most I need to rely on a few 200 odd players in the fwd but no midpricers NDD

Tophawk

Gday NDD. Jeremy Howe is risky on the injury front. Its early early days and I will need to see how he goes in the preseason. James Sicily is another similarly priced player I will be watching. Go well this season mate! Cheers, TH

TRIGGA HAPPY

Hey hawk.happy New year mate.om sure SC 2022 with throw us plenty of curve balls!
Dumont – now that is an interesting selection. 😱

Tophawk

Hi Trigga! I am always looking for sneaky POD players. Dumont is interesting at his price of $349K. Gone across to Port and will be making a fresh start. Will be watching his role in the preseason games. If he gets plenty of time in the guts, he could well be a great pick. In any case, he could turn into Rowell, but will see how he goes. Good luck this season mate.

Cheers, TH

Russty

Good to see ya TH, nice effort, not a fan of Howe or Rayner but knowing my luck Rayner will have his breakout year and I’ll miss out lol, you reckon Darcy can match it with Gawn’s scoring this year?
My side’s changing so much every day, there’s no point in posting it.

Tophawk

Gday Russty. Its good to be back! Howe is a walking crutch. He is very high risk on the injury front, and chances are he wont start in my team. A fully fit Jeremy Howe scores big points. Cam Rayner tore it up the other day in a match simulation and the fact he was the #1 draft pick about 5 years ago must mean its now or never for him. Will monitor his progress. Good luck this year mate! Cheers, TH

Phil

DEF: Lloyd, Hall, Crisp, Whitfield, Sinn, DeKoning (O’Driscoll, Gould)
MID: Macrae, Steele, Oliver, Neale, Serong, Berry, Caldwell, Daicos (Stephens, Mead, Clark)
RUCK: Gawn, Preuss (Hayes)
FWD: Taranto, Gresham, Rayner, Coniglio, Curnow, Brodie (Hollands, Parker)
$18K left
Forward line is super crazy, but don’t trust any of them. Could downgrade 1-2 to a rookie and upgrade another.

paul

Preuss is a worry i would go Witts he is fit this year and his taps to advantage are spot on. He is well underpriced and will make you money if you don’t want to set your rucks from the start. Will cost you a trade later on but we do have 5 extra. Witts will play every game not to sure if Preuss will.

Derek

I have hope Preuss will be #1 ruck and play. I’ll probably end with Witts once I realise Preuss will be rested.

I was hoping Witts would have been a touch cheaper

paul

My source here is my nephew Tim Clarke his father agrees as well Witts is the man this year at that price. Also ,Keep a good eye on Curnow as he and Cerra are fit and ready to go. As some of us do with partners we like to teach them about supercoach lol therefore her team has Witts/Darcy and mind is Darcy/Nat.
Its early days yet i have my 12 keepers set just waiting for the ownership % to go up for the rookies which is what last years winner did. It is really very simple no need to over think your start up team. Hall age worries me but on the figures of last year he must go in now with the extra trades.

paul

Also what is very interesting with last years winner round one only got 2081 and was coming 7500 over all. However with only one forced trade of danger to Tom Mitchel .Her round 2 score was 2448 amazing just by a reshuffle and cap wise choice. which ended up using the loop hole Jack Macrae most of the time.

Phil

UPDATED:
DEF: Lloyd, Crisp, Whitfield, W.Kelly, DeKoning, Gould (McDonagh, C.Dean)
MID: Macrae, Steele, Oliver, Neale, Serong, Caldwell, Daicos, Stephens (Sinn, O’Driscoll, Clark)
RUCK: Gawn, Grundy (Preuss)
FWD: Duncan, Butters, Rayner, Coniglio, Rachele, Maginness (Hollands, Skinner)
$80K to play with.

Defensive rookies seem most concerning, and really don’t want to trust the injury-returning midpriced forwards.

Russty

Hi Phil, I would forget about Preuss on the bench and just take Hayes who should get games. With the extra 160k you could replace Gould (who may or may not exist) with someone better…also, if you omitted Caldwell, that extra defender you bring in could be a premo. Just a thought, good side though, I like the Serong pick.

Kevan

Def: Lloyd, Dawson, Whitfield, Sicily, Answerth, Rookie – Mid/Def Rookie, Rookie,
Mid: Macrae, Steele, Oliver, Mitchell, Dumont, Ward, Rookie, Rookie – Mid/Def Rookie, Mid/Fwd Rookie, Rookie.
Ruck: Darcy, Pittonet – Ruc/Fwd donut.
Fwd: Taranto, McEvoy, Gresham, Coniglio, Brodie, Rookie – Mid/Fwd Rookie, Mid/Fwd Rookie.
~80k left.
I’m going off grid for about a month, so I thought I’d put this team up for critique. I don’t think it will change much either. Couple of roughies, mostly tried and true formula. One true rookie on field in Def/Fwd I like. Pittonet? gut feel.

David C

Tom De Koning might get the ruck gig at Carlton, bit risky picking Pitto.

Kevan

Always was iffy Dave, have the money for Marshall. Picked the ideal donut though, based on fixtures, Eric Benning from Freo.

Paul

And it Begins.
DEF:Lloyd Dawson Maynard Hewett Coleman De Koning (2+123K ROOKIE)
MID:Macrae Steele Oliver Neale Constable Daicos Ward Stephens (3+123K ROOKIE)
RUCK:Darcy Grundy (Hayes)
FWD:Duncan Heeny Butters Cogs Holland Comben (2+123K ROOKIE)
ON WATCH. DEF Hall / Ridley / Rioli / Bowey
MID Macrae / Brodie
FWD Dusty / Gresham / Dunkley
MIDS: First Time I have considered running only 4 Mids. Lots of good rookie options in this area this year. What’s every ones thoughts.?
DEF: Rookies Looks scarce again, can see a few rookie names appearing consistently, but if you look at the depth of the clubs, I cannot see them contributing weekly, more dead wood on the bench. “NOT THIS YEAR”.
Maynard: Training with the MIDS, not many better one on one and the pies desperately need a contested ball winner to work with Adams. Big Question is does Maynard have the Engine. And now the “”Big Call…..De Goey “stays forward’. The Pies need a FWD who can Kick 60 goals this Season. De Goey is the only player the pies have who has any chance of doing this.
Hewett, the Blues need contested ball winners. Locked for Midfield role.
Coleman, liked his role in the finals last year, on the back of those performances I think he has done enough to cement his role in the team.
With Henderson retirement and Stewart looking in Doubt early rounds i think there is an opening for De Koning.? Does he get first crack at Henderson role.?
RUCK: Set and forget. Any long term injury, only 1 trade needed. Pruess Owners “good luck”
FWD: Have seen a few sides with all of Gresham/Cogs/Brodie/Curnow, for me too many risks and trades. My first 3 in the forward line could end up a different combo RD1.
I Like Dunkley, has massive ceiling and could really hurt non owners if he goes “BOOM” early rounds, but didn’t like his role during the finals and his scores reflected that. This says a lot to me, that’s why I have not started him.(WONDER HOW MANY OFFERS HE HAS ALREADY RECIEVED “2023”. (Could Change).
Dusty, well have heard reports he has been ferocious with his pre season training, but with the death of his father combined with a serious injury last year have decided to pass at this time. (Could Change) need to see how the Tigers Set up in the FWD Line.
12K Balance.

Derek

I like the Hewitt call but not a big Maynard fan. I think 4 keepers in defence min because lack of rookies.

The big 3 in the guts will be very popular this year, they are a level above the rest (Titch might be included in the top level), and Neale for value. The rookies will fill the other spots, only decisions are expensive rookies or cheapies?

The forward line is a mad-house this year and will be where teams will differ. I think 2 of Gresham, Raynor, Cogs, Curnow is too many (says Someone who started Ziebel and Daniher last year, but not Impey). Duncan, Heeney & Butters all has risk as well. Forward line will do my head in.
Good team

demonsdelight

BOWES out for 4 months Valente has retired

Russty

Wonder if that means Lukosious stays in the backline or the mids now?
Who’s Valente?..lol

demonsdelight

So true Russty . in the scratch match at dees land Jackson got the better of Gawn Great for the Dees but what about supercoach The new boy JACOB VAN ROY-EN (that’s the way i am told to say it) was brilliant in the forward zone however so were tommy mac and benny boy. They still have to find a spot for Adam Tomlinson so I wouldn’t got nuts on Jacob just yet Russty

Derek

I am thinking about Jackson at F2 and backup for Pruess

Russty

It hurts my soul to not start with Gawn but I think I’ve decided to go with Grundy and Witts, because it makes my team much more interesting, I’ve included Jackson in my fwd line and a bunch of other dudes who I couldn’t previously afford.

demonsdelight

After 6 rounds flick him to the best available good thinking rust

JohnDJ59.Black Flag

R1 Nic Naitanui, R2 Jackson, R3 Hayes.This will be only the second time that I haven’t started with Max since 2016. I went with a value combo in 2017.

demonsdelight

Might just work

Reggie Rude

Looking like Gawn will be a POD this season

demonsdelight

His follow up efforts are like a midfeilder. If i chose him for BIG BOY the extra 100k gets me an extra mid not just any but TICH Jackson has youth and is injury free / I just don’t think Gawn will give in

Kat

That is my Fwd2 at the moment. Wanting a ruck backup so his DPP is handy

Russty

Another good one for the future for your mighty Dees mate, if only Saints could steal some of your recruiting guys. I fear I’ll die before I see another Saints flag…and I didn’t even see the first one!

demonsdelight

Van ROY-EN seems to have longer arms than most He is Dempsey or van der haar like . Not a huge leap but just plucks them from 3 deep / Keep an eye on him 126k

Russty

Sounds like Jacko is really coming along Neil, excoiting stuff mate, how brilliant for you guys when your main Ruck and Captain can play all over the ground and your backup can Ruck well and be a damaging tall marking forward. happy days mate.

Derek

That is significant news. Who else got the kickin last year, was it Powell?

demonsdelight

Think you will see LUK back npw

David C

Bowes was training with the mids anyway not the backs. Him going down might make Constable more relevant. Talk of Weller spending time at HB.

Doug

Sitting team at the moment
Def: Lloyd, Crisp, Ridley, Daniel, Kemp, S De Koning (Dean Uhland)
Mid: Macrae, Steele, Oliver, Neale, Dusty Martin, Constable. Nick Daicos, Rachelle, (Stephens, Bergman, Clark)
Ruck: Grindy, Witts (Preuss)
Fwds: Duncan, Gresham, Rayner, Coniglio, C Curnow, Hollands (Skinner, M Rioli)
Cash 67k
Weak in forwards I Know but believe a lot of value in them due to injury seasons last year. So stepping stones or could develop to keepers ala Daniher last year.
Rucks: Have selected both Witts and Preuss as it gives me a chance to see which ruck if any need to upgrade downgrade to.
Any afvice appreciated

Derek

I like the Daniel pick, will be overlooked this year

Lot of cash on bench with Pruess, The extra cash could turn a Dusty into a Titch

There is a lot of injury risk in your forward line, I’d consider Brodie, switched clubs and should get a decent run through the guts, but not a injury problem

Cattack

Def/ Lloyd.stewart.Ridley.Answerth.Whitfield.Chesser//Worrell.De Koning

Mid/ Steele.Oliver.Walsh.Neale.Gresham.Constable.N.Daiscos.Brodie// Long.Peris.Uwland

Ruc/ Darcy.Witts//Comben

For/ Dunkley.Heeney.Rayner.Coniglio.Curnow.Skinner//Williams.Parker

ignore rookies just place fillers

demonsdelight

I see a lot of teams with 12 prems include forwards like Butters Heeney and even Bailey. I can’t see one fwd i would be confident of staying all year..They all have a fault– age form or even their team and structure. I am avoiding them all which means there is no way you can have 12 prems Even 4 top defenders 5 top mids and any 2 of the top 4 rucks is pushing it . The pnly way i see to have 12 REAL prems is 5 deep in def,and mids plus 2 rucks and that severely impacts good rookies. Your Tim Kellys Mccluggage types that a lot of coaches throw up just to get numbers won’t be there .The top 10 Mids and TOP 8 Defs are clear cut so are the top 4 rucks ELEVEN real prems and a bunch of high priced warm bodies is the way to go NDD

Derek

My first team had Lukosius at D5 and Neale at M6.

I wasn’t calling Lukosius a premium, but if I start him I would be expecting to keep him all year

I’m happy with Taranto as my only keeper in the forwards. He ticks reliability and age. As does Grundy in Ruck.

I guess I’m almost with you with 5/6/1/1

Tophawk

Gday Derek. I agree with Taranto, he is a must up forward. Also, I am seriously considering Treloar at F2, Luke Jackson at F3 as back up to Grundy and Witts. Then Coniglio at F4, at this stage Charlie Curnow at F5 and W Kelly at F6. Jade Gresham and Cam Rayner will be watched closely during the preseason games.
Cheers,
TH

demonsdelight

As warm bodies appear in the forwards ,which is now starting , I would avoid them all I much prefer Tich or Lyons to Duncan or Taranto and the same applies to pretend keepers who will let you down Whitfield is the perfect example and Heeney. i would go with a proven uber and a cheap rookie than try to get ‘x’ amount of premiums full of b graders Pay the price DEREK

Russty

Those pretend keepers can be the bane of your season and be hard to get rid of, and then you’re enduring their yoyo performances until they inevitably get injured and you ask yourself…”why did I pick that guy”?..lol

demonsdelight

Lukosious and Neale are as close as i got to non uber prems BUT Tich is better than Neale and Ridley is better than LUK You just have to find the coin TARANTO was also the closest I got to a real forward prem It is the new GAWNS that will push him back to F7- 8 or 9 What you said about going deeper in the mids is correct but to do that Taranto is out After all Tich at M5 or Taranto at F1 As that wise man said ‘doesn’t matter where they are ‘ You have chosen R2 to go midprice I went with Jackson at F1 who serves a double purpose but wont be a keeper// 5/6/11 means you have 2 Heeney//Whitfield types waiting to stumble and be traded . probably Taranto and Witts 11 real prems gets me all the best rookies OMHO

Derek

I’ve never had Taranto and not a fan, but I feel his position as a forward potential puts him in the top 6 forwards, or at least very close. I like his durability, his age and his price.

I understand that Toby missing might make Tim go forward, but so might JKelly.

to me, it wouldn’t be right not to have a proper F1, and he is the best of a bad bunch

Derek

Whitfield warrants being in the premium class

JohnDJ59.Black Flag

I’m a bit late to the party regarding putting a team together, only started looking at it two days ago, but for a first draft I’m fairly happy with it considering I only had Lloyd and Oliver as locked at the start. Looking at only 10 keepers, but that seems to be the amount I usually start with. Def: Lloyd, Crisp, Ridley, Day, Answerth, Burgoyne,(McDonagh, Dean) Mids: Steele, Oliver, Bont, Titch, Neale, Horne-Francis, Daicos, Ward,(Roberts, Clark, McComb) Rucks: Nic Naitanui, Jackson,(Hayes) Fwds: Duncan, Gresham, Rayner, Coniglio, Curnow, Rachele,(Van Rooyen, Hollands) Cash:$87,300 I did have Gawn and Grundy in the rucks to start with, but worried that Jackson could have an effect on Max to score like he usually does, it will be only the second time since 2016 that I haven’t started with Max, 2017 was the other time, when I went with a value combo. I replaced Max with Nic Naitanui and then brought in Jackson for Grundy so that I could afford Duncan as my F1. I did have Petracca at M5, but Neale looks like to much value to pass up. Hoping that Petracca gets to become a mid/fwd.

JohnDJ59.Black Flag

Update, Stephens has taken the place of Roberts on the bench. Happy to have the high priced rookies in the mids for now, can always downgrade to a cheaper rookie if they turn up.

Russty

That’s a good point John, you can’t upgrade from a cheap crap rookie to a Horne francis or Daicos type

JohnDJ59.Black Flag

I always do this at the start Russty and by round one I usually only have one or two high priced rookies left in my team.
Though this season could be different, a lot of the rookies that look like being there round one and getting games and being any good at it are the rookies $123,900 and over.

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Russty

It’s not a bad strategy John, at least it’s easier to correctively trade from there rather than trying to find money that doesn’t exist.

JohnDJ59.Black Flag

It works pretty well Russty, sometimes by the time I have downgraded the high priced rookies, $180,000-$220,000 I have enough cash to upgrade a mid priced player to a premium player.

Tophawk

Hi John, that is a seriously razor edged side! Not bad mind you.

I love your backline. I also managed to squeeze in Will Day as there are bugger all rooks down back.

From there not too sure mate. No Macrae, no Grundy, and no Taranto could cause your side issues down the track.

Looking to start Jye Caldwell (MID) at $266K. Watch his pre season mate.

Cheers,

TH

JohnDJ59.Black Flag

Hi Tophawk, thanks for the feedback, I’ve never had Macrae in my side, so why start now, I could still end up with Grundy at R2 if I get cold feet. I did look at Tarranto for the F1 spot, but not sure I can trust his coach to play him in the middle where he belongs.

JohnDJ59.Black Flag

Hey Tophawk, you got me thinking about Grundy and the fact that just about every team will have him, not having him could hurt if he goes big, so he will be going back to R2. Duncan will be traded for Brodie and my mid priced fwd line will be complete.I also get an extra $78,400 in the bank to spend somewhere else. Cheers John.

Tophawk

I agree John. Grundy is a must IMO. I am currently tossing up between Brodie and C Curnow in my forward line. I was reading that Weitering was saying that Curnow is super fit after a great preseason. Have not heard too much about Brodie as yet but will see how things develop. Cheers, TH

demonsdelight

In most of the running tests he has been a miserable last not that being an elite runner is everything

Shake n bake

Curnow was great in a scratch match ytday but then again injury history and l suppose it was only a scratch match

Tophawk

Its still super early days for all these returning injured midpriced forward players. (Rayner, Curnow, Gresham, Coniglio etc) Its just a matter of keeping a close eye on all of them as we get closer to round one. Any hint of a niggle and a big black line straight through with a big texta! Their role must be SC friendly with midfield time etc as we all know. If any of these guys end up in most part forward in the lead up games, its time to look elsewhere. Time will tell!! Cheers Shake,
TH.

JohnDJ59.Black Flag

I do wonder where freo are going to fit Brodie, but they must have picked him up for a reason, so hoping he gets some midfield time.

demonsdelight

water boy is my guess John I am not spending too much time on a bunch of hopeless injured cronies . Picking one or two of the better ones for 6 weeks till gawn etc become forwards REAL FORWARDS. At this stage leading the race for warm forward bodies purely temporary cash cows are JACKSON F1 will play all 6 games and could sneak a few decent scores Rayner F2 fit enough for the 6 weeks cheap F3 Cogs same as rayner F4 RACHELE the best forward in the draft and now a guaranteed 6 week player F5 AND F6 ARE the better of 4 rookies Clark from the Tiges like him loads and SAM Mitchell ( hawks) gets a game cause I think he ‘s the coaches son my story Derek love this kid and his mate Maginess so there are plenty of good rooks there , no need for old injured giants cats or angry doggies pretending to be keepers. Use the savings on real defenders or mids At worst if coin is tight NEALE looks the best of the B grade prems that are heaps better than any forward 4 /5 /2 / 0 and a fine selection of the best available rookies hopefully kicks me off cheers NDD

JohnDJ59.Black Flag

Thinking the same way Neil, I don’t mind Gresham, Rayner, Cogs as my mid priced players, but hoping some good rookies show up, so I can replace Curnow and Brodie. Like you said, they are just warm bodies until we can upgrade them to quality forwards after round six.

TREV'S FANTASY

In another sight SCT there is a coach ‘just some guy’ that gives a ton of reasons why this is the way to go this year mainly due to the changes .Last years thoughts are irrelevant now Basically there are 2 types of supercoach players PREMIUMS and CASH COWS The more premiums quicker the better. Stacking your team with midpricers takes away your way to get there through cash cows

Derek

Trev, yep the guns n rookies approach is the best.

the good old days of Suns & GWS first few seasons, Essendon’s supplements issues, and Port Power rebuild, gave us rookies galore

now we need to find rookies who a) will play and b) score better than 20

if we can’t find them, then the midpricers become an option

when you talk Premiums, it must be Uber Premiums. I’ve been guilty of picking sub-Uber in past years, to stretch to get 13 or 14 ‘starting keepers’, not this year, no TKelly, Adams, Houstons, Wingards, Devon Smiths for me this year.

TREV'S FANTASY

That is some list of burnmen .If you were to take any kind of chance with a player like those 4 it would be NEALE Proven scorer and his injuries are relatively minor. He is in a great supercoach team too Cant see anyone taking his minutes away and if Oscar can just keep improving his tapwork he will score well I dont want to miss him and he is cheap but all my spots are taken now

Derek

Trev, Neale is locked in my team at M6.

he will never have a year like 2020 again, when he played 96% TOG, but he won’t be far away from the big boys and his price is good

JohnDJ59.Black Flag

Update: took my own advice and have changed the fwd line around, used up my spare cash. Butters, Gresham, Rayner, Cogs, Rachele, Hollands, (Van Rooyen Motlop.)

Derek

Yep Neil, Seamus is my smoky out the hawks nest this year

played under Sam at Box Hill and Sam sees him as a Poppy replacement

Russty

I’m liking your ruthless attitude towards it this year Neil, sounds like you have found your moment of clarity and run with it, good luck for the year mate.

Derek

John, I’ve put a pen through Gresham. He isn’t getting any midfield time and as a forward he will be lucky to reach his week 1 BE. Maybe if he was $100k cheaper, but at $300k there is no love here.

I don’t mind Raynor. Any number 1 draft pick is worth a second chance, NDD said he is training good

Cogs will most likely be in my team and forever frustrate me (again)

brodie I’m still interested in, his price is low not because of injury, and a new club that has a bit of room in the guts, there is upside at his price.

Derek

Curnow I’m not interested in at all. I’m not even bothered to read articles about him, he will not be in my team

TREV'S FANTASY

Both Gresham and Curnow are not on my radar. Both play for wooden spoon teams and are not value as cashcows If Maginess can just improve a tad with his big body could be anything The HAWKS could well be very relevant in the cheaper players outlook /.Downie Brockman are two others cheap enough

JohnDJ59.Black Flag

Thanks for the heads up on Gresham Derek, I thought he might be a go, I’ll look at a rookie to take his place and free up some cash. Either that or I’ll just put Brodie back in.

Derek

Gresham started 2 games last year in the guts and scored a couple of tons before his injury.

but the first 2 round last year was without Crouch, Jones and Hannas

JohnDJ59.Black Flag

Looking at the rookies, what do you think of Finn Maginness $143,700 I already have Rachele and Hollands on field.

Russty

I’d like to know too John from Derek, who’s most likely to get games out of Butler, Mitchell and Maginess

Derek

Russty, the talk around the hawk nest is Finn is going great, bulked up, looks fit, is going to be given a decent crack in the guts
Havn’t heard and talk about Butler, so he might be down the list.

SMitichell is going good, but might be the understudy to Moore for a bit.

there is some chatter about Jackson Callow. Key position player who is a running machine and he is a big chance to play early, might depend on what they fo with Gunston

Russty

Thanks Derek, good news about Finn, already have a spot reserved for him, hope he goes well.

JohnDJ59.Black Flag

Great to hear Derek, thanks for getting back to us on that.

derek

all my hawk mates are saying Ward is a GUN

I think he might find his way into my team

JohnDJ59.Black Flag

I have Ward at M8 currently.

Russty

I reckon Gresh will get enough midtime to score over 80, plus he knows how to kick regular goals, Hannebery isn’t a factor, never has been since we got him, what a dud trade that was.

JohnDJ59.Black Flag

The forward line really is a open book this year, not sure what to do there, the rest of the lines sort of pick themselves. Will just have to wait on the pre-season games before we can make any decisions regarding the fwds.

Russty

Yeah it’s all up in the air at the moment, have a read of this article on the Saints website if you’re interested John, about Gresham.
Why two injury hit seasons have made Saints star ‘way more professional’
I’m backing him in unless I hear that he’s re-injured himself in the pre-season.

JohnDJ59.Black Flag

I put Gresham back in, so my on field fwd line is now Butters, Gresham, Rayner, Cogs, Rachele, Holands

Russty

That being said, if there are some good rookies who will score well coming through, I’d whack em in there for Gresh and spend the money elsewhere.
P.S he’s over his archilles tendon injury but still had that back fracture so presents some risk there. I’d still rather start him than Rayner.

Derek

Rus, I’d be interested, but $300k is too much

Russty

Yeah I hear ya…300k is kind of a no man’s land price, if I do start him and he ain’t averaging 85+ from the get go, he gets punted for the most consistent rookie I don’t have. We have a few extra luxury trades this year to allow for extra corrections.

JohnDJ59.Black Flag

It really is all about the rookies, if enough of them turn up, we won’t need the mid priced players.

Russty

Hey John, my concern is, they always turn up, and then they always get dropped or drop massive turdy scores after a few weeks and then get dropped, and if they’re not dropped after their turd score, then they stagnate price-wise…and therefore not doing their job as a rookie, to make us at least 150 grand.
At least we have a few extra trades this year for the inevitable dud rookies.

JohnDJ59.Black Flag

Yes, nothing worse than a dud rookie, at least with a mid priced player you have the cash to go down to a rookie if need be.

TRIGGA HAPPY

Lots of people raving about Raynor.
His mate cockatoo might just be worth a look? 🙉

Smashed it at match SIM.
Fwd line option…..

Derek

What has been Cockatoo’s injury problems? Hammys?

Russty

Yep consistent hammy problems for the last 4 years

Tophawk

I am not going anywhere near Cockatoo. Just keeps breaking down. The same for Lachie Whitfield this year. I just dont trust him anymore after backing him in year in year out. The problem with Whitfield is that he often inflicts injuries upon himself by doing reckless things during matches.

Russty

Yeah mate not the most reliable bloke in the league, 16, 17 and 15 games last 3 years. The hard nuts play all or almost all games each season.

Greg

Afl

Russty

Yes Greg Yes! 🙂 bring it on mate

Russty

You’re all gonna be so jealous as hell of this team, cause not only is it full of ultra reliable well priced guns but you’ll just have no chance whatsoever against the talent level and scoring ability.
Introducing….The Titans

Jack Bowes, Trent Mckenzie, Darcy Moore -Josh Bootsma
Liam Jones, Michael Hurley, Majak Daw – Zack Efron

Luke Shuey, Matt Crouch, Luke Dunstan,
Elliot Yeo, Dion Prestia, Jed Anderson, – Cheeseballs McGee
Dan Hannebery, Luke Valente – Fkface McGee, Harvey Wallbanger

Callum Sinclair, Sam Naismith – Dean Cox

Mason Wood, Mason Cox, Perry Mason,
Jesse Hogan, Hulk Hogan , Jack Darling – Englebert Humperdink, Phuck-knuckles McGinty.

I don’t even think I’ll have to make any trades this year, you’re all done for, you may as well give me the 50K now 🙂

Derek

Where is Zac Dawson?

Russty

Zack Efron’s a better footballer 😉

Jeremy

DEF: Lloyd, Crisp, Ridley, Sinn, Kelly, Thompson (van Rooyen, Worrell)
MID: Steele, Oliver, T. Mitchell, Neale, M. Crouch, Horne-Francis, Daicos, Stephens (Sheldrick, McInnes, Burgoyne)
RUCK: Gawn, Grundy
FWD: Duncan, Martin, Butters, Curnow, Hollands, Rioli (Williams, Parker)
$100K left over – pretty happy with this so far with room for changes with the bank left over.

Derek

M Crouch. I guess he has made it through week 1 of training, anything is possible

Russty

Groin issues are always an avoid for me, can take a long time to recover from…if ever.

The Ranger

Yep, I’d ditch Crouch Jeremy, too much injury history there.

TREV'S FANTASY

Interview with FAGAN JAN 14 RE ANSWERTH ‘Looking at him he is really strong physically, particularly thru his core A FIT ANSWERTH WOULD BE A LIKELY INCLUSION Fagan continued ‘he is as fit asi have seen him and will play a full season and we will see a player who we ‘ve probably forgotten HE’S A VERY VERY GOOD PLAYER’ Sounds like Fagan likes the kid. After successful surgery he is having a full pre season In my team now

Derek

And then I hear that Zorko will be playing half back this year. I love ore-season

Russty

Is that Iron ore?…you’ve gotta love the edit feature being on some kind of time limit.

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TREV'S FANTASY

Not a huge fan of the yellow background and the printing should be darker Take a look at SCT FORUM real clear and easy to read Better site here not so clicky just a few clowns appearing

Foodie

Fagan DID NOT say “A FIT ANSWERTH WOULD BE A LIKELY INCLUSION”
In the story the journalist writes ‘Fagan also suggested that a fit Answerth would be a likely inclusion to the side should his body hold up’
That comment was made by the journalist after Fagan said this ““He’s as fit as I’ve ever seen him… we’ve got no reason to think that with a little bit of lucky, he’ll play a full season this year and we’ll get to see a player who we’ve probably all forgotten about.”
Answerth isn’t participating in match simulation and the “Play a full season” comment includes NEAFL and with a little bit of lucky (sic) AFL

TREV'S FANTASY

If FAGAN suggested a fit Answerth would be a likely inclusion then that’s good enough to call it He is in the mix Luke Hodge is a big rapt for him even suggesting he has leadership qualities. The practice games will tell the story.

Rivo

Hi folks. Can’t wait for it all to start.
DPP GNR for me. Ive been hovering between Walsh M4 & Crisp D3. I’m backing Dusty to bounce back after a flat 2021 and injury. Rookies of course subject to change. Appreciate some feedback….
D: Llyod, Hall, Crisp, Short, Chesser, De Konning, (McDonagh, Dean);
M: Macrae, Steele, Oliver, Neale, Horne-Francis, Daicos, Maginess, O’Driscoll, (M.Roberts, G.Clark, Uwland);
R: Darcy, Grundy, (Comben);
F: Dunkley, Martin, Butters, Coniglio, Hollands, Skinner, (W.Kelly, C.Parker).

Russty

Looks like a very decent side to me Rivo, providing all your mid rooks do ok.
Dusty’s gettin on a bit but still averages 90 odd, reckon I’d prefer someone a bit younger there, reckon Taranto’s worthy of a top 6 spot too.

Rivo

Thanks Rusty. Last season aside Dusty ultra consistent and scores 100+. I like Taranto but don’t trust Leon’s coaching. Mid rolls are a risk but DPP swing sets are my insurance at this point. 👍🏽

Russty

Yeah I hear ya, it’d be nice if we could trust gws players to be in the right positions, I’m hoping Taranto is good enough now to ave 100+ whether he’s fwd or mid. He’s durable which is gold in SC..as Dusty has been but he has only played 16 the last 2 seasons.

Rivo

2020 was a shortened season, so 17 games was the maximum they could play in season. Taranto only played 11 games that season. I’m sticking with Dusty for now, but appreciate Taranto as a solid option. The new DPP position rule during the season provides us with the opportunity to consider players like Bont, Fyfe, Danger as an option should Taranto or Dusty not work out. That’s my back up plan.

John

Easily the best team I’ve seen this preseason and dare I say blue print for success, great team mate, I’m tossing up between Hall and Whitfield myself, would love to start both but I feel a Ridley/Short combo is safer and would last the distance, but then again I’m looking at DeGoey over Butters so there goes that logic! Best of luck for the season.

Rivo

Cheers John! I’m sure there are plenty of better starting teams around than this. I have considered both Whitfield and Ridley a few times, however concerned over injury and role for both. Hall has the classic seagull role off half back, while Short will pick up points left by the Houli departure (kick ins and meters gained). Thanks and good luck to you also.

The Ranger

Solid team Rivo. I can’t go with Hall again, I’ve been burnt in the past by him, but I guess if he contnues in the same role as last year he should go ok.

Rivo

Thanks Ranger! Hall a lock for me. Seagull role again in a team that will see a lot of ball down back. Stewart another option but might start slow.

Shake n bake

I’d still prefer to go 5 deep in the mids.

The Ranger

That’s the structural thang I’m tossing up Shake. 4 deep in the Def or 5 deep in the mids. Can’t decide which and can’t make both work.

Rivo

Yeas that was my first set up also. It’s come down to 2 structures; 3-5-2-2 or 4-4-2-2. Mid rookies look to have more scope. As much as I would love to get Walsh back in it means big changes to the set up and a weaker balance of rookies.

Shake n bake

Definitely can make your other lines stronger. But with a solid 5 set and hopefully forget in the mids is a scoring headstart. Remember you have 5 extra trades. set and forget mids are alot more reliable then trying to get your fwd and def structure right. There is only 1 fwd avg over 100 I’d rather start skinnier there and see who jumps out at me. There is always someone that does.

Rivo

Thanks Shake. Crisp out for Walsh has been the debate in my team, but it does change a few other spots. I’m a big fan of DPP set up especially for covid. I think Crisp will go 100-110, and can sit in the mid initially if needed. Dusty will avg 100 at F2. Still have 12 premos plus Butters.

derek

I have Whitfield, but i’m not convinced.

Butters in the forward line might be a better option?

Any thoughts?

Russty

Whitfield’s ok until he goes down with injury, I’m going with Daniel instead, he’s stockier and has a lower centre of gravity 🙂 Reckon I’ll be backing Butters in this year also, hoping it’s his breakout and he goes 95+

derek

i already have daniel.

DEF: Lloyd, Ridley, Daniel, Whitfield, lukosious, Sinn

was thinking Whitfield & Lukosious to Crips & Butters? swing Kelly to defense

what was Butters injury last year? is it something he might not have got over fullY?

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The Ranger

I’m sticking with Whitfield for now, his injuries have mostly been odd one offs rather than ongoing soft tissue problems. Butters is tempting but I’d need to be assured he’s gonna get plenty of midfield minutes.

Russty

He had an ankle syndesmosis injury which led to nerve damage in his knee, that’s when he had the surgery to repair it rather than try to manage it. Then when he came back he had an MCL strain in his knee. not sure how he’s travelling now but if he’s not 100%, I’ll replace him.
I hope you mean Crisp and not Cripps lol

derek

Thanks Russty, I think Whitfield is going to be ok.

Butters should get some midfield, who else do they have besides Wines and Boak

the structure of my team is revolving around the D5. I have Lukosious there at the moment, but that is all depending on him getting the kickin duties etc.

JohnDJ59.Black Flag

I like Crisp, he’s my D2 in between Lloyd and Ridley. I’ve been burnt by Whitfield to many times with his injuries, not this season.

Russty