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Around the Grounds – Round 4

Published by Barron Von Crow on

Hello everyone and welcome to the Round 4 wrap-up of Around the Grounds. We’ve now had a month of footy in 2021 and we’re seeing some hits and some misses this year, with it becoming apparent there’s a glut of forward and defensive options coming through but a very thin midfield on offer currently. It’s still early days though and the expanded VFL competition is about to kick-off, which will hopefully give us some further visibility on up and coming rookies we may look to trade into our sides later in the year. So with all that being said, let’s go see what happened around the grounds.

Victoria

Collingwood

The Pies had a disappointing loss on Sunday, giving the GWS Giants their first win of 2021 in a 90-60 loss. Beau McCreery (FWD, $117,300, BE -9) was given his first real taste of AFL action and had 56 SCPoints from 7 disposals, 2 marks and 8 tackles. He only had 61% ToG, so the tackle count is good for that amount of gametime, but like Sam Berry, his upside may be limited.

Carlton

The Blues moved into the Top 8 with a 70-59 win over the Suns on Saturday evening. Luke Parks (DEF, $102,400, BE -14) had 3 disposals and 3 tackles for 23 SCPoints in 69% ToG. Paddy Dow (MID/FWD, $210,500, BE 55) had 8 disposals and 3 tackles for his 38 SCPoints. Dows ownership percentage was at 43.6% to start the season, that has fallen to 26.9% with a BE of 55 that is above his season average of 45.3, so he could be looking at a price decrease coming up next round. Parks is on the bubble this week, but has shown to have iffy scoring potential and questionable job security so far this year.

Essendon

A match that went down to the wire, but Essendon fell just short of taking the win, suffering a 83-80 loss to Sydney. Nikolas Cox (DEF/FWD, $254,200, BE -41) had a big game with 18 disposals, 7 marks, 3 tackles, 5 hitouts and 1.2 for 97 SCPoints. He’s now running on a 3 round average of 77.3 SCPoints with scores of 93 and 97 in his last two games. The Bombers are facing the Lions this week, who have shown iffy form so far this year, so could be another good week for him. Alec Waterman (FWD, $102,400, BE -77) kicked 2 goals with 10 disposals and 3 marks for 56 SCPoints. He’s on the bubble this week, but has shown the ability to hit the scoreboard so far this year.  Archie Perkins (MID/FWD, $171,300, BE 14) had 11 disposals and 3 marks from just 61% ToG for 50 SCPoints, while Harrison Jones (FWD, $154,300, BE -14) played 67% ToG for his 6 disposals, 2 tackles and a goal for 41 SCPoints. So far from the Bombers rookies it looks like Cox and Waterman are the two to be looking at.

Geelong

The Cats tried to make a few runs late in the game, but just couldn’t string consistent play together and ended up losing to Melbourne 85-60. Zach Guthrie (DEF/MID, $180,500, BE 9) had 11 disposals, 2 marks and 4 tackles for 46 SCPoints. Not much on offer from Geelong rookie wise last week.

Hawthorn

The Hawks hung in there against the Dockers, but couldn’t get the 4 points after a 96-81 loss. Tyler Brockman (MID/FWD, $172,700, BE 28) had 44 SCPoints from 8 disposals, 3 marks, 3 tackles and 1.1 and Mitch Lewis (FWD, $199,500, BE -41) finished with 14 disposals, 8 marks and 1.1 for 75 SCPoints. Jarman Impey (FWD, $365,200, BE -6) continued to be one of the best value picks we’ve seen in some time. He had 28 disposals, 5 marks and 6 rebound 50’s for 112 SCPoints. He’s now running with a 3 round average 114.3 SCPoints which is some career best form for Impey.

Melbourne

Melbourne kept their spot in the Top 2 with a 85-60 win over Geelong. James Jordon (MID, $205,100, BE 47) had 24 SCPoints from 4 disposals and 5 tackles with just 56% ToG. He’s hit a bit of a cold streak the past fortnight, after opening the season with scores of 78 and 82 he has scored 49 and 24 over his last two games. Those two poor scores will sit in his rolling average until Round 7, so his immediate cash gains will be minimal at best until they roll out (and assuming he scores more like the first two rounds in between).

North Melbourne

The scoreboard doesn’t really reflect the result, 3 quarters of solid to good football were undone in the last with the Roos going down 109-68 to Adelaide. Lachie Young (DEF/MID, $270,800 BE 21) scored well from his touches, producing 74 SCPoints from 11 disposals and 3 marks. Tom Powell (MID, $241,700, BE -9)  had a great game with 19 disposals, 5 marks, 2 clearances and a equal game high 8 tackles for 101 SCPoints. Aiden Bonar (DEF, $258,000, BE 28) had 8 disposals and 4 marks for 42 SCPoints, Charlie Lazzaro (MID, $147,000, BE 18) had 7 disposals, 2 marks and 2 tackles for 35 SCPoints and Will Phillips (MID, $198,300, BE 31) finished with 46 SCPoints from 13 disposals, 2 clearances and a goal. Lastly, Tom Campbell (RUC/FWD, $154,700, BE 41) had 14 hitouts, 8 disposals and 2 marks for 21 SCPoints.

Richmond

A terrific game on Friday night between Richmond and Port Adelaide, but one that Richmond took the L in, losing 79-77 to the Power. The Tigers finally blooded some new blokes in 2021, Rhyan Mansell (DEF, $102,400, BE -2) had 9 disposals, 2 marks and 2 tackles for 43 SCPoints while Will Martyn (MID, $123,900, BE 22) had 12 disposals, 1 mark and 1 tackle 27 SCPoints. Both just played their first game and have iffy job security, so they wouldn’t be high on my priority list this week.

St Kilda

The Saints are back in the winners column, down by 33 points through the 3rd quarter, the Saints staged a terrific comeback to defeat the Eagles 102-82. Daniel McKenzie (DEF, $245,800, BE 5) had 91 SCPoints from 21 disposals, 7 marks, 3 tackles and a goal. We’ll continue to wait for Tom Highmore to make a return.

Western Bulldogs

The Bulldogs sit atop the AFL ladder after a 73-54 win over the Brisbane Lions on Saturday afternoon. Anthony Scott (MID/FWD, $153,900, BE -1) had 5 disposals and 2 tackles for 26 SCPoints while Lachlan McNeil (MID, $165,900, BE 4) finished with 10 disposals, 2 marks and 1 tackle for 39 SCPoints. Both have shown limited scoring upside, but seem to have pretty good job security, but hopefully they can start scoring in the 60 range more often to gain some more cash long-term. Lewis Young (DEF, $198,300, BE -1) played his first game of the year and had 17 disposals and 5 marks for 80 SCPoints.

South Australia

Adelaide

It was a back and forth game with North getting on top at times, but the Crows experience got them through in the end with a 109-68 win at Marvel Stadium. James Rowe (FWD, $173,600, BE -5) had 9 disposals, 2 marks, 3 tackles and a goal for 67 SCPoints. He’s been up and down, as you’d expect from a small forward, so it’s a bit of a coinflip on starting him each week. Sam Berry (MID, $204,200, BE 10) had just 66% ToG with 8 disposals, 3 marks and 7 tackles for 51 SCPoints. Will Hamill (DEF, $223,500, BE 28) finished with 15 disposals, 4 marks and 49 SCPoints, Ned McHenry (FWD, $217,700, BE 40) scored 39 SCPoints from 13 disposals, 3 marks and 4 tackles and Jordon Butts (DEF, $230,800, BE 9) came back to earth a bit Supercoach wise with 31 SCPoints from 8 disposals and 2 marks.

The Adelaide Crows had a hard fought match against West Adelaide in Round 2 of the SANFL season, with the Crows eventual 82-76 winners. Ronin O’Connor (MID, $123,900) had 20 disposals and 3 clearances, Josh Worrell (DEF/FWD, $123,900) finished with 20 disposals and 5 marks and Luke Pedlar (MID, $162,300) kicked 3.1 with 13 disposals, 3 marks and 2 clearances.

Port Adelaide

A great win by Port Adelaide, defeating the reigning Premiers Richmond 79-77. Lachlan Jones (DEF, $139,800, BE -5) had 17 disposal and 6 marks for 61 SCPoints. A quality start for him, but he’s just played the 1 game, so he can wait another week if needed.

Over in the SANFL, the Port Magpies were 5 goals down at half-time, but they kept Central Districts to a single point in the 2nd half to take a 64-47 win at Alberton Oval in their Round 2 SANFL match. Jackson Mead (MID, $123,900) had 22 disposals, 3 tackles and 5 clearances, Taj Schoefield (MID, $102,400) had 16 disposals, 3 marks and 3 clearances and Trent Burgoyne (MID/FWD, $123,900) kicked 1.1 with 12 disposals and 2 tackles.

Western Australia

Fremantle            

Fremantle had their second win of the year after defeating Hawthorn 96-81 on Sunday afternoon. Heath Chapman (DEF, $207,200, BE -56) had 18 disposals, 4 marks and a goal for 91 SCPoints and is starting to look like a real quality selection down back. Michael Frederick (FWD, $206,700, BE 5) had 10 disposals and 3 marks for 49 SCPoints, Lloyd Meek (RUC, $213,000, BE 23) had 7 disposals and 9 hitouts from 53% ToG for 33 SCPoints and Josh Treacy (RUC/FWD, $102,400, BE 6) made his AFL debut and had 10 disposals, 5 marks, 3 tackles and 3 hitouts for 35 SCPoints.

In the WAFL the Peel Thunder faced East Perth and had a big win, kicking 24 goals to take the match 154-49. Leno Thomas (DEF, $123,900) had 23 disposals and Joel Western (MID, $117,300) booted 2 goals with 20 disposals, 4 marks and 3 tackles

West Coast

The Eagles were up by 33 points through the 3rd quarter, but failed to kick a goal in the final term and the Saints ran over the top, winning 102-82. Isiah Winder (DEF/MID, $117,300, BE 16) made his AFL debut and had 5 disposals and a goal in 56% ToG for 31 SCPoints. Jack Petruccelle (FWD, $231,700, BE 7) booted 4 goals with 14 disposals, 5 marks and 3 tackles for 83 SCPoints while Jamaine Jones (FWD, $186,500, BE 61) played just 57% ToG for 5 disposals and 2 tackles for 19 SCPoints

The Eagles faced West Perth in the WAFL and had a big 120-42 loss. Luke Edwards (MID, $117,300) had 22 disposals and 5 marks, Luke Foley (DEF, $127,900) finished with 19 disposals, 3 marks and 2 tackles and Zane Trew (MID, $102,400) kicked a goal with 17 disposals and 7 tackles.

New South Wales

GWS

The Giants finally got one in the W column for 2021 after a 90-60 win over Collingwood. Connor Idun (DEF, $248,600, BE -11) had 14 disposals, 5 marks and 4 tackles for 73 SCPoints. He’s now had his first price rise of the season and is ticking along decently with a average of 67.3 SCPoints. Jack Buckley (DEF/MID, $271,800, BE -12) scored 80 SCPoints from 14 disposals and 5 marks. Matt Buntine (DEF/FWD, $225,900, BE 18) had 14 disposals and 5 marks for 49 SCPoints, Xavier O’Halloran (MID, $227,500, BE 44) scored 32 SCPoints from 11 disposals, 3 marks and 2 tackles and Conor Stone (FWD, $144,300, BE 25), the #15 pick in the 2020 National Draft made his AFL debut with 11 disposals, 2 marks and 2 tackles for 32 SCPoints.

Sydney

Sydney extended their win streak to 4 games, unfortunately they couldn’t extend their Rising Star nomination streak to 4 in a row as well. They defeated Essendon 83-80 in a tight match at the SCG. Chad Warner (FWD, $298,700, BE -23) continued his hot form with 86 SCPoints from 23 disposals, 3 marks and 6 tackles. He’s now averaging 90.5 SCPoints for the year which is a fantastic return for what he cost. Errol Gulden (MID, $301,700, BE 35) had a season low 68 SCPoints from 17 disposals, 5 marks and 3 clearances. His scores have been decreasing each week, but he’s still doing decently touches wise, so hopefully he can jump back up to a higher score this week. Braeden Campbell (MID/FWD, $258,100, BE 71) had 19 disposals and 4 marks for 68 SCPoints His BE of 71 is now higher than his season average of 63.5 SCPoints, but his score was probably hurt by 16 of his 19 disposals being uncontested as well as 6 clangers. In the short term he’ll lose a tiny bit of cash because that score of 29 from Round 3 is in his rolling average, but once that pops out he will start to generate some cash again. He’s currently averaging 17 disposals a game, so he has the stats there to put potential scores up. Lastly, Logan McDonald (FWD, $262,700, BE 41) scored just 39 SCPoints from 7 disposals and 2 tackles. Quiet game, but young key forwards occasionally have those.

Queensland

Brisbane

The Lions remain in the bottom 4 after a 73-54 loss to the Western Bulldogs. Tom Fullarton (RUC/FWD, $164,800, BE 8) had 7 disposals, 62 marks and 2 hitouts for his 40 SCPoints. Deven Robertson (MID/FWD, $176,800, BE -15) was quieter this week with 8 disposals, 5 marks and 2 tackles for 35 SCPoints while Joe Daniher (FWD, $281,600, BE 47) continues to underwhelm Supercoach wise. He had 8 disposals, 4 hitouts and a goal for 34 SCPoints and Thomas Berry (FWD, $242,700, BE 56) had just 4 disposals and 6 tackles for 30 SCPoints.

Gold Coast

The Suns had their 3rd loss of the season, losing to Carlton 70-59. Chris Burgess (DEF, $210,000, BE -17) is on the bubble this week and scored 54 SCPoints from 10 disposals, 1 mark, 5 hitouts, 3 clearances and a goal. Sam Flanders (FWD, $192,300, BE 56) made his AFL debut but had just 35% ToG with 4 disposals, 3 marks and 2 tackles for 21 SCPoints.

TOP 5 UNDER $250K

DEF

  1. Heath Chapman – $207,200 – BE -56 – 73.0 SCPoints
  2. Lachlan Jones – $139,800 – BE -5 – 61.0 SCPoints
  3. Lewis Young – $198,300 – BE -1 – 80.0 SCPoints
  4. Chris Burgess – $210,000 – BE -17 – 70.0 SCPoints
  5. Connor Idun – $248,600 – BE -11 – 67.3 SCPoints

MID

  1. Tom Powell – $241,700 – BE -9 – 69.5 SCPoints
  2. Deven Robertson – $176,800 – BE -15 – 59.0 SCPoints
  3. Sam Berry – $204,400 – BE 10 – 59.3 SCPoints
  4. James Jordon – $205,100 – BE 47 – 58.3 SCPoints
  5. Zach Guthrie – $180,500 – BE 9 – 48.5 SCPoints

RUC

  1. Josh Treacy – $102,400 – BE 6 – 35.0 SCPoints
  2. Tom Fullarton – $164,800 – BE 8 – 40.3 SCPoints
  3. Lloyd Meek – $213,000 – BE 23 – 56.8 SCPoints
  4. Tom Campbell – $154,700 – BE 41 – 21.0 SCPoints

FWD

  1. Alec Waterman – $102,400 – BE -77 – 68.5 SCPoints
  2. Mitch Lewis – $199,500 – BE -41 – 79.0 SCPoints
  3. Deven Robertson – $176,800 – BE -15 – 59.0 SCPoints
  4. James Rowe – $173,600 – BE -5 – 57.5 SCPoints
  5. Michael Frederick – $206,700 – BE 5 – 57.7 SCPoints

Value for Money (sub $250K trade-ins)

  1. Alec Waterman – FWD – $102,400 – $1494.9 per Point
  2. Beau McCreery – FWD – $117,300 – $2094.6 per Point
  3. Lachlan Jones – DEF – $139,800 – $2291.8 per Point
  4. Rhyan Mansell – DEF – $102,400 – $2381.4 per Point
  5. Lewis Young – DEF – $198,300 – $2478.8 per Point

And that is it for me this week. As usual, if you have any questions you can have them answered in the Jock Reynolds Mailbag podcast hosted by Damo by emailing [email protected]. I’m also available on the Twitter machine @BarronVonCrow. Seeya all next week!


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JugHead

Fantastic job once again Barron, and much appreciated.

Russty_

Agree mate, cheers Barron nice job again 🙂

JugHead

Oh I’m loving this (insert sarcasm here)….
Highmore not named. Daniel out. So my def bench is those two.
I find out on Saturday night if Kosi (D6) and Lachie Young (D5) are named for Sunday…..
If one of them isn’t, I can trade to Chapman (assuming he is named)
If both of them don’t play…..I could be scr*wed……….so……
Maybe I should trade Highmore…but who to? None of the other rookies have been named yet……ok……maybe there will be a Pies or Eagles rookie named before the Thursday night game that I could trade Highmore to…….
This is starting to look like my last year of supercoach.

blueisthecolour

Kosi to Lachlan Jones or Mansell who is named on the ground this week for his second game but his job security isnt that great. Id be very surprised if Kosi is named this weeK

demonsdelight

kosi may not play

Russty_

Hey Jug, yeah Young was medical sub last week and only scored cause someone went down very early. He seems good enough to me to not have been dropped ,(especially in that rabble of a side) but if he’s the sub again you could go Young to Cox and Kosi to Jones, only reason I say Kosi instead of Highmore is cause I think Highmore will play again but Kosi’s time could be limited with how little of the ball he gets…and rookies who score 20’s are worth bugger all.

JugHead

Thanks Blue and Rusty. Yep, if I have to…. Kosi > Jones and Young > Cox (or Chapman) look to be the trades.
Highmore didn’t even make the emergency list (again) so he could be clogging a bench spot for a fair while.

Russty_

I think it’s just a case of seniorty first at the Saints, Highmore didn’t play badly or do anything wrong in fact he was great in his 2 games. Someone will probably need to go down for him to break back in and also Geary is due back soon so maybe Highmore doesn’t get another chance at all.

Westy

Any opportunity to go someone like Jiath if Kosi isn’t named?

JugHead

Nope. Only 17k in the bank.

Wtf

How about Adams from Brisbane?

JugHead

Same thing. Not enough cash.

Donavan

It is a tuff spot to be in JugHead.
I know premiums arent to traded except for long-term injuries, but I would be considering trading Daniels in the position that you are in.
If you don’t I could see you using multiple trades on defensive rookies with questionable job security.

Joe_T

This has given me much more to think about now haha

Who do we think out of Jones, Parks or Chapman as a better option to bring in this week? Considering JS, $$ difference and no price rise for Jones this week

JugHead

Difficult choice. Arguably…. we need another look at Jones. Parks is cheap, but could be a low scorer. Chapman is not super cheap. If Kosi doesn’t play, the trades above are possible, but the smartest long term move might be to just eat the donut.

Nicky

Hey guys,
Avid reader of the comment section, and love the JR community, but never post, and any thoughts are greatly appreciated.
Was just wondering if going J.Clark to Jiath is a smart move? Jiath will be a top 10 defender it looks like, and it hurts each week seeing him dominate, this is also the lowest price he’ll be for the rest of the year. But on the other hand, Clark also has some more money to gain, and it’ll mean another week where I’ve done two trades (bringing waterman aswell), but I’ll have to trade Clark at some point regardless.

BJSO

Jiath looks good, will be interesting to see if he can keep it going all season.

JugHead

If he can hold his form, I think Jiath is a good pick. Also, I think he has better job security than Clark, who is not a best 22 lock at the Cats.
At some point half way through the season he could easily be dropped. If we already have the bench clogged with non-players, that will be a problem. I think Clark owners need to have an exit plan.

The Lost Boys

Hi community and good luck for the week. Daniel really stuffed up last round for many of us, and I don’t see him being a top 6 defender for the rest of the year.
Thinking of one of these options:

  • Dow to Waterman and Daniel to Steel (leaves me with ~20k in the bank)
  • Dow to Waterman and Daniel to CJ (leaves me with ~270k in the bank)

Steel looks like a must have but probably wont go up too much in price this week, might be able to get next week from Clark potentially if i take the second option. Concerned that CJ isnt a keeper though, and that while scoring well hes making errors and might have his role changed.
Team is currently:
Def: Lloyd, Ridley, Daniel, Short, Stewart, Chapman – Sharp, Highmore
Mid: Macrae, Oliver, Laird, Brayshaw, Gulden, Clark, Powell, Jordon – Brockman, Scott, Dow
Ruck: Gawn, Grundy – Flynn
Fwd – Dunkley, Ziebell, Impey, Campbell, Warner, Rowe – Fullarton, Bergman

Donavan

Grab CJ.
As a Hawthorn supporter I think Clarko is going to play CJ all year, and in the role that he is currently playing. Clarko hasn’t given up on 2021, but he is working on having the most attacking defense in the league with guys like CJ, Impey, Sicily and perhaps Gunston all playing attacking roles in the defense from 2022.
He just needs to find some decent targets up forward.

Paul

Hey there community!
Thinking of going Brockman to Waterman.
And then Daniher to Impey.
I was always passing on Impey as he’s never averaged more than around 70 in sc before but 3 tons in 4 games has got my attention.
I know I have missed the boat on Impey as a cash cow, but do we think he can legitimately be a top 10 fwd come seasons end?
If so, then I’m jumping on as he is still cheap as a keeper.

Any thoughts on whether Impey may be a top 10 fwd would be really appreciated!

TRIGGA HAPPY

Fire sale rd 4.
Score 2062.
Midfield struggled again this week seems to be a common theme here. 🙄

With Williams a late withdrawl traded in Doch as a replacement.

As the team has heeney and butters guess that is another 2 trades this week. 👎

Not sure who the replacements are gonna be. Maybe 1 up and one down? Team below.

Def: Doch, rich, lukosious, jiath, h clark, moore. (Highmore, Sharp)
Mid: Tarranto, cerra, mcgrath, serong, jom, simpkin, ldu, smith. (Powell, gulden, jordon)
Ruck: Hickey, Martin. (Flynn)
Fwd: Heeney, butters, hind, tex, impey, ziebell. (Campbell, Rowe).

The experiment continues…..

Russty_

Is the experiment to keep the team full of midpricers Trig or just start with them?…If it’s to keep it full of midpricers you’re probably never going to score all that well.
I would’ve thought if you start with a( firesale midpricer team) you’d want to see how much you could improve it from there.

john

This reminds me of something I was apart of many a year ago, a group of us on FB one year set up a league where we all started with the same team similar to this idea-basically midpricers but with Gaz as a Cpt option, we all voted on who was going to be in the team and then went about seeing who could finish the highest rank, was a bit of fun, but must admit having to manage 2 teams became tiresome, I’d imagine now with teams named 24hrs before tee off would make it even harder.

TRIGGA HAPPY

Yeah its a bit tougher that’s for sure. But a binus of a middy team is unless there is an injury/late out you don’t have to worry about the 22 as they play every week. 👍

TRIGGA HAPPY

Yep thats the goal mate. Injuries are preventing this. Think with butters and heeney had 6-7 trades bc of injury. 🙄

Gonna work on upgrading ruck and mids. Just need a bit of relief from injuries .

Last edited 6 months ago by TRIGGA HAPPY