Neale Before Our Benevolent God, Tex Walker
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Lekdog, Damo and Clarky search for Supercoach answers after a very confusing Round 3.
Are key forwards the new midfielders? How do we turn no rookies into many rookies? Why is your specific choice, yes you reading this, the wrong one?
All these questions and more are analysed in this week’s podcast, time codes below:
3:00 – Hayden Young replacements
4:20 – Is it too late to jump on Tex Walker and the like?
5:20 – C-J? More like C-Yay!
7:30 – Trading our uber premiums, is it really worth it?
12:00 – Backline premiums aren’t performing to expectation
14:00 – Shannon Hurn
15:55 – Lachlan Fogarty
17:00 – Bubble Boys (and cheap rookies)
18:18 – Is Chad Wartner a keeper?
20:40 – Jordan Ridley is a key target in Round 4, forwards aren’t
22:30 – Rory Sloane chat
24:00 – Callum Mills
25:00 – Daniel ‘the GOAT’ Rich
26:30 – A message to Alistair Clarkson
29:00 – How many points will Tex Walker score against North Melbourne?
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Great podcast guys. Current rank is 310. I know it’s ballsy …. I’m considering trading Bontempelli to Guthrie. Thoughts ?
Nah…but don’t listen to me.
Really worried about the current situation with F6… Need to get someone in there to generate some point
Who do you have at the moment Matt?
Rowe, Scott / Brockman (loophole) or Bergman. Just had a look at the stats Devon Robertson from Brisbane had 17 possessions on the weekend seven marks and seven tackles at $173,000… Could be worth a sideways trade?
Scott’s probs worth keeping, yeah Robertson looked good, do you have Impey already?…could be a keeper maybe?
No. The only issue I have at $288,000 I need to make a major change to the rest of the team to get Impey in. My sit tight this week and see how Robertson goes for one more week
Good idea as he could score 15, well done on the ranking so far, noice start to your campaign for glory and riches. Waterman is another option but also probably a wait and see for this week.
👍 Appreciate the advice.
yes, great podcast. NO, keep the Bont – he just slacks off in easy wins.
Thoughts are that you won’t have to stress long about maintaining rank if entertaining trades like that.
Hold! He’ll pump out a 200 in the country this weekend
Moving J Clark from midfield to replace Hayden Young & a DPP forward to midfield, I’ve just brought in Buddy & made him my vice Captain. He looks great standing next to Tex!
PS Don’t discount schoolboy Harry Sharp playing on Saturday @ Mars stadium: his previous school was St. Patrick’s in Ballarat.
That’s enough for me!
I wouldn’t put Buddy in my side if you paid me…he gets injured when he’s not even playing and he’s 49 years old.
The whisper in Ballarat is Grant Birchall out (rested), Harry Sharp in. Funnier things happen on Mars.
i heard Sharp comes from around them parts?
Believe his a st Patty’s boy Derek.
Sharp! Might give us something
I’m going to revisit a question I asked before the start of the last rd which didn’t get much traction, but now with another rd behind us I’ll ask again. Tex, JZ, Impey-keepers? Even with missing the price hikes all 3 are great prices for a keeper, Tex won’t keep up the scoring rate no kpp ever does especially once the wet kicks in, JZ might lose his position once McDonald returns-as early as this week and Impeys track record of staying on the park is right up there with joeys, so what do we think? I’m thinking a Neale and Sharp trade for Tex and JZ 2 for the price of 1 so to speak, my only issue is if Neale can put 2 halves together this week I’m screwed with rookie prices stalling in getting him back in.
I can’t believe I’m saying this, but its not certain we need to get Neale back in. To score like he did last year, everything needs to be going perfectly for him.
Sure he might punch out the odd good score, but is he guaranteed to consistently outscore Titch, Oliver, Steele etc? Even if his back improves, it sounds like something that will need to be managed through the season.
If I spend 580-600k on a mid premo (at the bottom of their price cycle), the first thing I do is draw a line through any are battling injuries. I’m not going to let Neale become my new Fyfe.
JZ the most likely to be a keeper for mine, Impey is playing well but history says he’ll slow up.
Tex…no idea
thoughts on j. kelly to ridley?
Ridley is a must have but you’re trading out a fit premo to get him. Any other way you could do it?
J Kelly to dominate with Cogs out?
I have Saad, Sidebottom and Petracca as PODs! Move on or hold!??
I think you should probably wait and let em turn it around, I also have some under-performing premos for eg: Adams, Neale, T.Kelly. Offloading premos after a few low scores usually ends in running out of trades aka disaster.
At this stage you have to hold I think
I’m usually conservative with trades but I feel Ridley is a must have.
Best option to get him in?
A) Neale & De Goey to Chapman & Ridley
B) Clark & De Goey to Ridley & Waterman
B)
Just scratching my head after R3… the only things that went right was trading HYoung to Ridley and putting the C on Gawn… I’ve already traded Dow to Walsh.. looking at a cheap rookie… probably go early on Waterman..
Bad luck with the score this week bud, hopefully your rank didn’t suffer too much
Bring in Impey or Tex??
impey
Tex.
Impey is an unreliable injury magnet
like most players coming back from a season out with injury, they slow down as the season goes no
Impey, cheaper
Witts out for the yr
Interesting to see who takes the ruck role. If it is Burgess, then 210k defender. Had a nice 86 on the weekend. Maybe one more week to look at him. Maybe Dow out, move Clark down?
Maybe with both Parks and Waterman on the bubble at the same time, and with 102k price tags, he might be a gem that could slide through.
Zac Smith down to return round 7 or 8. Does that give Burgess enough games to fatten up? Maybe.
i should have pushed harder for the Gawn trade in Jocks Jungleland Draft
I see English or Ryder sitting on the waivers
Keep pushing Derek, 3 premos would be nice.. You was nearly there with Danger and Dusty
Yeah I got rid of English, he’s been crap since Martin is there.
he is all i have got to go to now.
I have two trades in mind:
I either trade Phillips and Young for Impey and Chapman and add onto the warchest i have currently
Or i trade Phillips and Young for Ridley and Chapman and add a guy who will help my case to move up the ranks
Im leaning towards building the warchest but thoughts would be great thanks
I think you have to have Ridley John, he’s not just a top 6 defender, he could be the top defender this year.
Part of me wants to go with a unique like Dan Rich and part of me wants to go with a Jiath too because i feel like he’ll get close to 500k
nah ive decided young and phillips to jiath and chapman. gives me 500k to play with in the later rounds
RICH!
Dow too Chapman and Phillips too Impey/jiath good moves? Phillips can find the pill but just not scoring .
Jiath looks like a player, might be bringing him in myself.
Don’t mind those trades
Alright Team, I’ve got two ways I could go here, (currently carrying $550k in bank):
Second option keeps focusing on my cash generation. First option probably suggests I’m backing Tex in for the season… And that’s a gamble that scares the crap out of me!
Giro is an interesting one @ 170k BE – minus 50, good game on the weekend however Fyfe should play this week, was a gun when younger but struck down by injury over the past 2 years , consider as he should play each week
I think the new man on the mark rule really benefits key forwards this year with the faster movement into their area, I’d go Ridley and Tex
a)
Like the grinch who stole Christmas, I’m gonna be cheering on the North defence. Triple team Tex. Don’t let him get within a 10m radius of the ball !
I think I am too!
I know I’ve missed one price rise but too late to get Meek? Have Hunter R3 and can’t see him getting another game with Marshall and Ryder returning. I thought I might get 6 games out of him which was clearly wrong.
But Meek could still get to 300s in price by my reckoning. It’s really this week or don’t do it at all. My other main issues are Dow and H Young. Might need to go a week early on Parks or Waterman, build a war chest to try and get Oliver in a couple of weeks from now. His consistency is amazing and a 67 is extremely rare
Are Ryder and Marshall returning this week?
Marshall likely, Ryder no. Probably at least 2 weeks of training for Paddy first
I would discourage against this. I am a Freo fan and can say that we looked horrible on the weekend with two slow ruckmen. I feel JL didn’t want to make any changes to the team that beat GWS, but I will be shocked if Treacy does not come in this week.
The likely, and not necessarily fair casualty would be Meek as Darcy probably has the match fitness now to be NO.1 ruck again.
Don’t take my word as gospel, but Meek’s JS is not rock solid and it could be a wasted trade for 1-2 more price rises.
Thanks for that. I haven’t seen a lot of Freo so appreciate the insight from a fan
Don’t grab Meek, not confident he sticks around for long
JR SURVIVOR GROUPS
First week of eliminations
Based on the numbers, there will be 4 teams eliminated from each division, except there will be 6 from Division 5 and only 1 each week from Division 9.
The following teams unfortunately been eliminated this week:
Div 1 – The Certs, Logan McDonald AA, Macca’s Magic & Browncows
Div 2 – Large coke no ice, STOP! Hammer Time, fish and cripps & Pie Warmers Utd
Div 3 – Going Parabolic, Coopers Troopers, carcinogemic goats & Mallee Bulldogs
Div 4 – The Spotlight Kids, The Lotus Eaters, SnortLines FK9’s & Rift De Goey
Div 5 – Lukies Legends, Seddon FC, Hammers Heros, The Cora Blues, camburger & rubantugindahub
Div 6 – Gawn To The Pub, King, The A Team & InvinciBell
Div 7 – One Touch Wonder, Wingards Wingmen, Hydroxyrioliquine & John’s Juggernaut’
Div 8 – The Muppets, Megawatt, The plodders & Rodge’s Rebels
Div 9 – Better Luck Nxt Yr
No-one was required to use their Immunity from last week.
Round 4 Immunity
The cream has already started to rise to the top. This week there were 3 teams that went Back2Back with immunity. Unbelievable stuff.
Teams with Immunity for Round 4 (as if they will need it)
Div 1 – Bck2pp (2301)
Div 2 – Morning Fresh (2336)
Div 3 – McBasketball (2331)
Div 4 – Holt (2293)
Div 5 – ETH2.0 (2357)
Div 6 – Hall of Fame (2308)
Div 7 – Deams Stars (2365)
Div 8 – Vicwood (2244)
Div 9 – Spartak Damo (2366)
Special shout out to Hall of Fame who has improved to 10th Overall and Spartak Damo who is not far behind in 32nd place overall. Sensational stuff fellas.
Keep up the good work everyone.
Thanks fellas.
Good work Derek, there are lot of highly ranked teams competing
Got lucky this week, 50 odd less points and I would’ve been goneski.
there is always one group that out performs all the others and one that struggles.
Division 7 is the HOT group this year. Not only did the highest scorer from all the divisions come from, every one of the teams eliminated scored over 2000. Not one other division had anyone who scored 2000 or more get eliminated.
One Touch Wonder, Wingards Wingmen, Hydroxyrioliquine & John’s Juggernaut’ can count themselves unlucky.
Division 8 need to lift their game. Had the lowest score high score to receive immunity and all those eliminated scored below 1846.
Stunned I survived.., love your work Derek..hope I can do the comp justice and deliver next round..
Amazing
Ultimate shark move. Sell Oliver, who will drop a good $100k or more after he gets O’Connored. Use that cash to grab Tex and Impey who will make $300k between them and pump out more points. Get Clarry back at a heavy discount in a few weeks time.
Dunno about that Rick, it might cost you 2 trades to get him back in, I’m holding ,my thinking if Premo’s aren’t injured ,don’t trade ,as most times it comes back to haunt you if they score well and you get low on trades, look at the ones who traded out Gawn & Grundy ! just my opinion mate, good luck
That is an aggressive move and will work if you have a great run without injury.
Injuries usually stuff the season anyway, so give it a crack and ride your luck
silly trade
You are trading out Oliver and who? To get Impey and Tex?
I assume a rookie.
the 4 trades should make you about $400-$450k.
not sure it is worth the number of trades
Oliver and non-playing rookie. I’m ranked about 3500th. My season is already over. Might as well go aggressive and have fun.
last year i was unusually aggressive early (after a very poor 2019) and it paid off, especially as they started giving us more trades later in the year.
this year i’ve gone back to conserving my trades and sitting 19k in the ranks. makes me wonder if i should be more aggressive with the likes of Neale, Adams, Cripps
Oh my! If your season is over ranked 3500. Then I must as well completely give up now, since I’m ranked 8200.
Here I am thinking, there is still chance, considering only 3 games in. Any can happen from here on, injuries can happen at any time or suspension.
😂 yes I must admit I got quite depressed when I saw his season over remark while sitting at 3,500k, considering I’m just under 19k I might as well throw caution to the wind as well and burn up the trades by Rd16!
i had a look at my rank last year, after round 2 i was 22k, after round 5 i was 231st. you do need a good start, but the first 2 or 3 rounds there are a lot of teams very close to each other and rank doesn’t mean as much
Same concept as the Neale move so I’m not totally against it but I reckon he tons up against Geelong
Hey community,
A question for supercoach draft (and classic): who’s a greater long term investment out of Impey and Lachie Fogarty?
Impey seems to be the more reliable and proven scorer of the two, though I reckon Fogarty has the higher ceiling due to his role. Long term and considering sc draft I’d back Impey
I don’t know much about Fogarty, but you would have to think Impey will get tired and need a rest or two as the season goes. Most players coming back after a long injury break struggle as the season goes.
Impey
I thought you were evil Neil, your rank this week is 6666 🙂
thought exactly that mate
and russty i had a zero bank balance WEIRD very similar team to the leader but onfield rookies placement has cost me hundreds
So I didn’t start Martin and didn’t realised how much people moved on dusty over the weeks to be the 2nd most owned player and most owned premo.
Question is simply, do I get him in now?
Can go Ridley instead but would make it 5 premos and Clark in the back.
I’d get Ridley first, Martin can zone out during the season
Most people who had danger did a like for like trade.
you could look at danger next week as a POD
RIDLEY
Anyone looking at Impey and CJ
consider their last 2 opponents. 2 of the better teams and games the Hawks lost. The ball was in the Hawks defence a lot and plenty of oppportunity for CJ and Impey to take intercept marks and get plenty of the pill. Even Hardwick was toning up.
compare to first game against Essendon, Hawks had a win. Neither scored that well.
check out the Hawks next 6 games, not sure they will get as much as the last couple of games
Gee your making me nervous on my trades now Derek.
I had Phillips and Clark in the firing line. Clark had a terrific role in the pre season games and for what ever reason has changed he’s hardly attending a CBA at all. Was considering Clark -> CJ . Or Phillips to Impey. Tom seems to rack up plenty of the ball but he’s too outside and not translating too high scores.
But you make valid points with the opponent’s. But hawthorn are a pretty average side I think they will always still have there fair share of ball down back.
If Impey was a defender I would probably go Young to Impey.
Was keen on him as a forward in preseason
Has great JS and that’s what I need in defence right now, but unfortunately he is a forward in SC.
Priced to high now just for a cash grab as there are rookies to fatten
I might have to get CJ or a similar priced Def in somehow, so few def options and I don’t like having to rely on one of Kozi or Highmore at D6. Problem is I’d have to do two trades i.e Dow and L.Jones to do it. Not good.
Burgess might be a good option with Witts going down. Not many talls left at GC.
I’m seriously looking at him or Cummings
Hi Fellas,
I’ve got a decision to make:
Who should I be bringing in this week between; Ziebell, Impey, Warner and Ridler?
Trade out who? Tom Phillips or De Goey?
Bringing in the Ridler would mean to trade out both.
Cheers
With the lack of rookies running through defence ATM I’d be looking to finish that line ASAP, or at least have a JC or CJ as D6, if it’s cash your after then Warner still has plenty to make. I missed the JZ Tex and Impey boats and have now come to terms with it, the only way we’re going to make up ground on the fwd lines with that trio is to try another approach.
De Goey and Phillips to Ridley and Warner
Are people happy with Cripps? That was about as good a game he’ll play this year and he got 109. I fear he’ll be back to 85 this weekend.
lol
I’m a non owner rick but So far has started every game on fire and fades out later where he’s obviously getting too sore. Hopefully not far away from getting his body right and going on with his decent first halves. Hopefully he can ton up but til he’s 100% don’t expect any 140s like the Cripps of old
Still looks a beast I’ll be watching him over the next month and monitor his body he’s an upgrade target if he hovers around the 520k mark.
at 3/4 time he was on about 90 and Walsh was about 85.
the game was over in the last quarter and he had a nice rest running around in the back pocket while Walsh went looking for the ball
Cripps had already done the heavy lifting and looked really good, but didn’t polish it off
Not sure, can’t make up my mind
Well community it’s been one of my better starts to the season for a couple years sitting 5000 overall. I’ll take that.
Reasonably happy with my side overall avoided Neale cripps danger Fyfe Rowell so got lucky there on the injury front. But unfortunately started Phillips, dow and even hunter Clark has gone to shiiiite after a huge Rd 1. Missed Impey too.
I think it’s time dow moves on he just doesn’t look the player I hoped! But not alot of rookies on the bubble and no bank so a bit awkward. I hate the thought of moving on Clark and Phillips but jiath and Impey are knocking the door down but all feels a bit sideways.
Got alot of thinking to do in the next 48 hours.
Dow is a fair chance to be dropped this week by Carlton
Dow to a bubble rookie who you don’t have.
Dow to a bubble boy is the move I reckon
Only used the 2 trades so far, no idea what to do this week. I considered tex, impey or jiath last week but was talked out of it. Am considering all 3 again this week. This is my team, any suggestions are appreciated.
28 trades and 135k in the bank
Mills laird short Daniel Williams Clark (highmore kosi)
Macrea fyfe merret cripps tarranto gulden Powell jordan (Berry Scott sharp)
Gawn Flynn (meek)
Dunkly Martin zeibell daniher Campbell warner (Rowe brockman)
not much to do this week except watch the cows fatten
Being conservative is probably the move again, watch rookies at team drops
Hey Community! Which of the following trades would you rather do this week?
a) Fullarton to Impey
b) Clark to Ridley (Would have to field 2 of Rowe, Fullarton, and Jones every week.)
b)
Does anyone know a site for game day supercoach scores other than Fanfooty Thi s site is coming thru as a security risk on chrome and firefox thanks lads
Yeah not sure what’s going on there…maybe some maintenance? Footywire has stats and scores but don’t know if they do them live or not.
yep footywire is really good. It has live stats, never misses a beat. i use it every game
good to see you back swanny going well the swans too How do you get live results on wire? And thx Russty 666
There’s a mobile app called Footyinfo. It’s a beauty, seems much more reliable than Fanfooty
There’s an app called footy info that I use.
Scores are live.
Download the app called Footyinfo. Has live sc scores
They’ve been updating their servers, keep trying tomorrow
Degoey and LDU for Ridley and LDU?
Sorry I meant for Ridley and Impey
Looks like a win win
De Goey to Ridley I understand but why swap LDU for Impey? He’s not a keeper even as F7 and has already had his main price increase and he gets injured more often than Cripps gets tagged.
Do it
Don’t know what to do this week!
I really need to start scoring over 2200 points. Past 3 games been scoring over 2100 which isn’t too bad.
I wanna get rid of Dow and Rowe for Warner and Chapman would leave me over 100K in the bank.
But I’m keen of getting Ridley in this week, which means I’ll have to drop Butters and Dow will leave me 23K in the bank.
Or should I just wait another week to get Ridley, trade Dow and Rowe this week.
I wouldn’t trade Butters he scored 150+ 2-weeks ago. Cash in Dow and Rowe for Waterman or somebody on the bubble
Hold Row this week, playing North
Rowe is a bit of a worry but playing North he could easily ton up However he would be the forward i would trade shortly The DPP in the forward will prove to be gold shortly. NDD
Rowe has survive this week in my team, he’s surely one of the first to go in couple of weeks unless I have other issues to deal with.
Mccreery to play this week
Should have played last week eh Shake?
Need to start playing the kids.
could be a nice. downgrade in 2 weeks but J S is a worry same as the tiger boys
Thanks fellas footy info it is appreciated NDD
What ever happened to OLD OCKER His comments and knowledge of our game were first class as he was Pieman as well both are missed
Not sure, I’ll shoot him an email
Hey Com,
Thoughts on what to do with Taylor Adams (COL) ?
Hold
I’m an Adams owner
he is actually getting plenty of the ball. He just needs to do better things with it.
round 1 against Richmond and Round 3 against Lions his disposal wasn’t great. Both are good teams with good midfields
round 2 against Carlton he had a bit more time and scored really well. Has a few easier games, except WCE (in Melb) coming up
Gotta hold
Mansell Martyn to play this week
Mansell mght be a nice def downgrade target in a couple of weeks
thanks shake could be relevant
👍
is it will martyn from tigers He was ok a few weeks back????
As a Tiger Member, Dimma has spoken about both players in glowing terms, however their JS is questionable with premiership & fringe players becoming available, there are other rookies that are also pushing for a senior spot eg Riley Collier Dawkins & Hugo Ralphsmith
Playing for overall rank……is 360k too much to have sitting in the bank waiting for Danger and Oliver to bottom?
I think it is myself, ideally you’re swapping fattened rookies to fallen premos, not having to use a huge bank
Great podcast fellas. I really need it as I am in a world of pain after scoring less than 2000 last week and losing four out of my five league matches. Only positives were bringing in Zeibel and making Gawn captain. Need some advice on whether I should be focusing on replacing non playing rookies like Sharp, Henry, A Fyfe, Highmore, Hunter and Bergman with those on the bubble (i.e. Chapman etc) or should I be trying to get Ridle, Tex Walker/Fogarty in by getting rid of Stewart or Butters respectively. I have 27 trades and $87k in the bank.
Please, any advice much appreciated.
If you can get Ridley, do that, otherwise just focus on getting the right rookies in.
I reckonS harp and Highmore play this week
Thanks Lekdog. I hope Sharp and Highmore both play this week as they are on the bubble and I need them to make some cash. I really want to get Ridley in but lack sufficient cash to do so unless I trade out Stewart which seems like a sideways move that I am not too keen on especially after only one poor game. I can focus on the rookies this week and fill in some gaps, however, I am not sure who to bring in apart from Chapman (Free) and I won’t know if he is playing until Saturday night and it might be too late by then to bring him in. I really wish teams went back to being announced on Thursdays and Fridays like they used to as it is just too hard to guess who is playing or not.
Hi everyone. Need some advice on trades and what not. Currently sitting on 26 trades (due to injuries, suspensions and one underperforming correction type trade). Looking at people like ridley, tex (maybe too late), chapman or even guthrie down the line. What would you guys advise at this point in the season and how does my team look? Thanks JR community
J. Lloyd, R. Laird, T. Stewart, S. May, J. Clark, T. Highmore (J. Koschitzke, L. Jones)
J. Macrae, J. Steele, T. Boak, Z. Merrett, E. Gulden, B. Campbell, T. Powell, S. Berry (A. Scott, L. McNeil, A. Davies)
M. Gawn, B. Grundy (M. Flynn)
D. Martin, Z. Butters, J. Ziebell, J. Impey, J. Daniher, C. Warner (J. Rowe, M. Bergman)
I wouldnt trade anyone, particularly since you’ve had to burn through 4 trades already.
Your team looks very solid, might just be time to wait it out until rookies increase in value.
Onky slight concern is your d6 spot, which if kosi or higmore are named then your laughing
Kozi out for?
All the best for R4 Community!
Its handy that Kosi and Chapman’s teams are playing each other. You can wait and see if Kosi is named before deciding.
If you don’t need an onfield player this week, I’d lean toward waiting for Parks. Its not impossible that Kosi gets another chance and bumps his price up slightly.
The 46k difference doesn’t sound much, but it matters when we are doing the first lot of upgrades. If Kosi managed to play and make a bit more, it would be a bonus.
Which of the following trades do I make this week?
Kosi/Sharp/Highmore (whoever is not named) to Chapman.
Stewart to Ridley
Hunter to Meek – missed the boat on Flynn.
Butters to Fogarty
Henry/Bergman to Robertson (BL) or Waterman (Ess)
My team is as follows:
B- Lloyd, Laird, Stewart, J Clark, L Young, Kosi, Sharp, Highmore
M – Neale, Oliver, Merrett, Fyfe, Brayshaw (Free), Gulden, Jordon, Powell, A Fyfe, Scott, Brockman
R – Gawn, Grundy, Hunter
F – Martin, Butters, Zeibel, Campbell, Warner, Rowe, Henry, Bergman
Appreciate any thoughts or advice.
Koschitzke to Chapman worth a trade?
Hey community, thoughts on going Down to Waterman and Phillips to Tex? Leaves me with 166k in the bank.
Heath Chapman this week, or wait for Parks next week?