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What’s The Deal With Neale?

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Lekdog Damo and Patch are back to talk about all of the big issues of the week.

4:00 – Which rookies you need to have

14:15 – Is Tex Walker the greatest player of all time?

22:46 – Jye Caldwell replacements

27:30 – Under performing premiums, do we need to panic about Lachie Neale?

41:20 – The airing of grievances

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Hugh

Easy, trade Neale for Brad Crouch. Good podcast though.

Teague Train

Sticking fat with Neale, only because Caldwell and Draper are bigger issues for my team at the moment

Only rookie I don’t have is Warner, but I think I’ll pass on him and bring Tex in this week for Caldwell and sack Draper for Flynn, leaving 370k for upgrades down the line

Saad, Neale, Cripps and Dow are issues, but I reckon 3 out of the 4 will come good
Dow on the other hand, will be lucky to hold his spot, plays 2 good quarters and then is virtually a witches hat after half time

DEESNUTSRBIG

Caldwell to Tex for me too. +50k
Neale out, Dusty in. +180k

Watch Neale go 125 and Dusty 90.
Tex over Impey for me, cant bring em all in.
Cripps and Dow I’m happy to give another 2 weeks (maybe not games for Dow).

Derek

if you don’t have Flynn he is a must.

who is at R3? a DPP. you can swing a Caldwell trade to a Flynn if you do.

JohnDJ59

I’d go Caldwell to Warner and Draper to Flynn, leaves you with even more cash for future trades. Warner is averaging 80+ and going up 100k over two weeks.

Teague Train

The crows fixture gives me hope that Tex can keep scoring big, but it’s the 150k price difference that could swing me to Warner
Meek is my R3
Forwards would be Dusty, Tex/Warner, Ziebell, Impey, Dow, Rowe (Fullarton, Scott)

Rick Grimes

At this stage holding Cripps. I will see how my team is travelling during the round and make a final decision. I’m pretty keen to get the Riddler, so that would be my trade move.

Feel like the defenders are scoring well and consistently and the mid rookies are plentiful . So makes sense to get a full premo defensive line first and then hoover up some cheap uber mids in a few weeks time. Tasty.

Derek

Defenders scored ok.

i saw some signs on the weekend that it isn’t as easy as first thought.

Stewart 83, Daniels 66, Saad 66, Haynes 53, May 82, Doch 85, Sholl 63.

there were a few good scores, Ridly, Short, Bowes etc. But it isn’t all champagne and chocolates down back.

It is still a case of match ups and game styles. It all could change

Hugh

Coke is it: make $273, 200 by upgrading Neale to Brad Crouch!

Russty_

I don’t think Crouch is a keeper, certainly not top 8 mid.

The Filth

Neale to Crouch is not an upgrade

Donavan

Neale to Dusty this week, and non-playing rookie Wehr (via swings) to Tex (cash only, not counting on him being a keeper).

Derek

have you done the maths on the cash you will make from Tex? Is it worth an extra trade?

Remember his round 1 score will only effect next week’s price rise. If he scores 3x 90 he should make $136k. There are a few rookies will do that and then some. Overpriced rookies very rarely go close to the cash generation of cheaper rookies, Tex is a very expensive rookie, and just not going to make the cash (unless he pumps another 130 – dreamin’)

trading out Wehr is a waste. he can be your defense loophole and he won’t be far away from getting a game.

Trading Neale i believe is a mistake and getting Dusty isn’t a must, you can get him soon for about the same price.

JohnDJ59

I actually agree with everything you just said Derek.

Derek

I can see the attraction of Tex. there are shades of the Greuien Manover in it

The Ranger

N.Cox to Warner seems a no brainer correction and it allows me to swing J.Clark to def and loophole Highmore and Kozzie at D6.
Got all the rooks that are scoring well, I could sideways Henry, Downie or Dow to get Berry, McNeil or even Giro but it doesn’t seem worth the trade.

Gonna flip Neale in and out of my team all week just for laughs…

Rick Grimes

Tex’s career ave v Suns is 95.2. High 146, Low 47. Roll the dice…

Rick Grimes

Should add, Suns defense so far this year been pretty solid. Kennedy and Darling didn’t kick many on then R1. North don’t count.

The Filth

Agree with you Rick. Also Sam Collins took Tex to the cleaners in the corresponding game last year. Risk v reward? If he is not a keeper, better to adjust rookies ( get Warner etc) who will also generate cash and pocket the difference. I have Neale but best to keep the faith. It’s only Round 2.

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Joe_T

Solid stuff again lads, Tex is an interesting prospect but I think I’m going to pass and prioritise rookies.

Between Sharp, S. Berry and Jordon who are the 2 rookies that we should have? JS is the greater priority here.

Rick Grimes

Jordan looks the one out of those. Sharp might get dropped very soon. Berry could lose his spot when Crouch comes back?

Jess

What rick said. Stay away from sharp, but I’d be happy to play jordan on field, and berry would be a decent loophole if possible, because he has some great SP but not so great JS

Joe_T

Cheers Rick and Jess, if I can get both Berry and Jordon in would that be worth doing? I know JS for both is a bit average as Crouch and Melksham are due to return respectively, but just trying to maximise cash generation vs JS and see who fits?

JohnDJ59

Jordon and Berry.

Derek

i doubt Sharp will get a game this week. he was way off the mark, is very young (doing his year 12) they will rest him anyway.

LongShot

Hey there community! Have a bit of a dilemma this week in terms of figuring out what my priorities are for trades. Currently I scored 2242 and am averaging the same so looking decent and have $15k in the bank.
My team is below, I feel like trading out Caldwell is the one trade I need to do but I was thinking of holding Neale as he is someone who should be a long term decent scorer and also am hoping that my Magpies decide to not have anyone tag him on Thursday so hopefully he gets a decent score and doesn’t drop massively in price.
Based on below, I was thinking of trading out Caldwell for Impey for cash and for cash generation and scrap Taranto for the likes of Boak or Martin who seem to be scoring well and also should go up in price a bit. Alternatively, I can put faith in Taranto to score well again and save a heap of cash by downgrading Neale to a Boak or Martin.
DEF: Lloyd, Laird, Daniel, Short, Stewart, Highmore (Kozzy, Sharp)
MID: Neale, Oliver, Macrae, Merrett, Taranto, J Clark, Jordon, Gulden (Powell, Brockman, McNeil)
RUC: Gawn, Flynn (Meek)
FWD: Butters, Caldwell, Ziebell, Daniher, Campbell, Rowe (Jones, Scott)

Donavan

Nice start Longshot.
It is said that a trade is worth approx $150k, and you are in need of points to retain your ranking also.
Given that Neale is going to bleed at least $100k in price over the next 3 weeks, I would recommend you take this chance to strengthen your team and trade out Neale & Caldwell for players worth a combined $1,085k.
That could be Andrew Brayshaw & Dusty, or Dunkley & Cerra, or Ridley & Dusty (by Swinging Laird to the midfield).

LongShot

Thanks for the reply Donavan! I hadn’t given any thought of swinging Laird into the Midfield so the thought of picking up Ridley and Dusty is quite tempting. I’ll give that a lot of thought so thanks heaps for the advice!

LongShot

So I’m spewing a bit because the Ridley and Dusty trade isn’t possible as I’m short about 4k 🙁 I’ll need to look at the next best alternative.

Russty_

You could get Heeney instead of Dusty and pick up Dusty cheaper after a quiet game or two.

The Jinx

Awesome podcast fellas. So much to think about what we need to do this week, rookies, under performing premos.

As much I need to get the rookies that’s on the bubble this week. The likes of Campbell, Warner and Jordon. I think I have enough rookies that will generate some cash, some will rise slowly.

But I’m going against the pack this week.
Trading Neale & JClark for someone who I think will be top 6 or top 8 in their respective position.

Laird, Daniel, Stewart, Short, (Bowes)

Oliver, The Bont, Merrett, Cripps, Dow

Gawn

Dunkley, Zorko, Butters, (Heeney), Ziebell

That gives me 14 keepers with the inclusion of Bowes & Heeney who I think they’ll be top 6 or 8 by end the season.

Ziebell & Dow will be my stepping stone in the next few weeks, until the rookies have fatten up.

Rick Grimes

How confident are you on Bowes? Is his output sustainable? I’m a Suns fan and I rate Bowes, but I’m just not sure he’ll be top 8 come year’s end. But hey, he’s cheap, so worth a crack.

The Jinx

He’s been improving by 10 each year, going by his last 2 season I’m pretty confident(gut feeling) he’ll better his average by 10 or more this season. Has the main role in the backline pretty much like Ridley(who I also would love to have in my team).

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The Jinx

This why I rate Bowes, if he keeps it up. He’ll score constantly well.
Rn1 28 Kicks – 2 Handballs
Rnd2 22 Kicks – 9 Handballs
Kick-ins duty and plays on.
Running off half back

Ridley
Rnd1 16 Kicks – 5 Handballs
Rnd2 23 Kicks – 9 Handballs
Kick-ins duty and plays on.
Running off half back

Donavan

Unless Clark is not getting selected, I see no reason to trade him out. He is going to make money over the next few weeks, and whilst he is not a keeper, that is why you selected him.
There must be someone else on your team that would be better to trade out than Clark. I see Clark making money and providing a swing to defense. If you dont trust him put him on the mid bench.
If its all about the cash maybe Cripps should be traded before Clark.

The Jinx

Fair point! He does have some cash to make. I did pick him partly for that reason, but mainly for the role I thought he’ll be playing. 0 CBA predominantly playing at HF, his JS is getting thinner. With Tuohy, O’Connor and Constable in the side, plus Cameron, Menagola and Danger to come in couple of weeks. On top of that Atkin has taken his role before Clark got injured.

I’m sticking fat with Cripps for now and see how he goes for the next couple of weeks. He’s not scoring that bad for his price you’re paying for.

Derek

you can never have enough cash cows.

Matt

I’m thinking either:
neale & caldwell -> boak & dusty
OR
caldwell -> impey

Thoughts lads? I’m assuming neale will still average 125 from here on out, but the first trade is only in my mind to grab neale cheaper anyway. I feel like impey’s cash generation potential negates the cash that neale will leak, with the second trade, while freeing up about 200k for early upgrades.

Donavan

Boak & Dusty

Brayshawbreakout

Fellas, I can’t believe Damo hasn’t brought up Andrew Brayshaw. Averaging 128, Could he be on for the Brayshaw breakout breakout?? Could he be a top 10 mid this year?
I’m probably not gonna trade cripps, but if I do a sideways to Brayshaw is oh so tempting

Otherwise great pod!

Jess

Nailed my rookies. Caldwell and cripps probably need to go. Two rookies on field in defence isn’t working. Highmore all good but kozi cant be on field.

Therefore, caldwell traded to Jiath via dpp, gives me the much needed $ for cripps to tmitch, and gives me some security down back with some good cash gen (hopefully). Think Jiath intercepts well and is on par with young. I Simply cant hold cripps and tmitch looks back to the accumulation beast.

Not the best trades but I’m happy with this considering my pretty crap situation. Of most importance is getting kozi/sharp off the field and feeling confident of avoiding a donut. Thoughts?

JohnDJ59

Sounds like you have it all worked out Jess, both trades should work a treat.

Jess

Sideways trade caldwell to another cash gen/decent scorer in Jiath, and upgrade cripps to tmitch or equivalent. Some $ left over.

Or

Get rid of Neale for brayshaw or Walsh and upgrade caldwell to dusty or equivalent. Already have dunks. Would mean keeping Cripps which im not so keen on, plus i think neale will come good.

So option 1 feels best for me. Thoughts?

JohnDJ59

Hi Jess I like the Caldwell trade, but I would be going Cripps to Brayshaw instead of Titch. I did try and talk you out of getting Cripps and yes he was a value play, but it looks like Brayshaw or Walsh would have been a better play. I don’t have Neale, went with Clarry as my M1, but if I did, you just have to ask yourself, will he be a top 8 mid at years end, I think he will be, so you should keep him.

Jess

Yeah u wish i had the hindsight. Thought Cripps could return to close to his 115+ so gave it a shot. From here I’m not sure. If you consider that i need to trade caldwell too, it becomes more difficult. If i trade caldwell up at all, I’ll need to trade cripps down, and there is surprisingly nobody under cripp’s price that i would bank on. Its more about moving caldwell on. Caldwell was always a cash cow, so i have to trade him down to somebody. When you have kozi on field in defence, its almost a given that he should be traded to a lesser priced defender. I’ve chosen Jiath for now, but are open to any other defenders less than 330k. I could just grab walsh or brayshaw, but really do like tmitch, and since i have the cash think i can bank on him to be a top 6 midfielder for the year.Do you not think tmitch is priced well? The debate us more about which defender for less than 330k will score well, as opposed to which midfielders will be guns.

JohnDJ59

I see your problem Jess, Caldwell has to be traded and your backline is in need of help, like you said, Highmore is fine on field, but not Kozi. I have Young at D5 and Highmore D6 and that is working for me, so Jiath would be my Young and he is cheaper. I don’t have a problem with you getting Titch, I looked at him for my Danger and Rowell trades, but went with Walsh and Brayshaw instead. I just thought Brayshaw was better value, that I could get the same output for a cheaper price. At least you know Titch should be a top 8 midfielder, while I’m probably taking a gamble that Brayshaw will be.

Derek

Is Cripps Injured?

i don’t think so.

He has had Tigers and Collingwood, a couple of teams that are hard for midfielders to score against. next week he has Fremantle, one of the easier midfielders, i think he will be too big for the young freo midfilders and should do ok

JohnDJ59

The Freo midfielders have been doing alright so far Derek, no one from the GWS midfield went big, Kelly only scored 90 and against the Dees in round one only Oliver and Langdon scored over 100. Apart from that though, we are talking about how we think a player might go for the rest of the season, not just one game, if people want to trade out Cripps for one that should end up in the top eight midfielders at seasons end and score more points than he will, good luck to them.

Lazza

He’s definitely injured Derek. Having injections before the game.
One of those supposed “can’t get any worse if plays” injuries.

Russty_

He is injured ..getting injections ,could be cortisone in his elbows, knees or back? I don’t want a player who ain’t 100% good to go each week…especially with the game speeding up the way it has.

JohnDJ59

Hi Jess, just a thought, another player you could consider for the back line is L.Young from North $202,000 scored 85 & 66 so far.

Brayden

neale And Caldwell > Boak & Butters?
or Bring in Tex Walker instead of Butters to get some cash?

Brayden

Or, keep neale and trade cripps to boak and Caldwell to Tex

JohnDJ59

I’d be trading out Cripps before Neale.

JohnDJ59

If you have enough cash, I’d just be going Caldwell to Butters. If you feel you need to trade out Neale, I’d be going to one of Titch, Dunkley, Brayshaw, or Walsh. Or if you haven’t got Oliver, which you should, get him in.

Roj

Neale & Dow to Butters & Martin – means I miss out on Warner but have all the other rookies. Thoughts?

Mav

ill be honest mate i see you on here so much and thought you must know your stuff! clearly not the case at all. The reason to drop neale now is to save the $70k+ drop in price….. peanut

Derek

Dow to warner is the call

Martin won’t be super expensive ever and the cash warner will make will easy make up for the cash Neale will drop

Crazy John

I have 70k and was wondering the best option to trade Dow out for an on-field player. Only rookie I may have missed out on is Berry, but Jiath and Impey both looked very solid against the tiges. Any thoughts would be appreciated!

Derek

the tigers have traditionally given up a few points to opposition defenders (not as many as Collingwood), mainly because the ball is down there a fair bit.

Look at what Saad did round 1

Look at what Hardwick did round 2. I don’t think he has ever tonned up.

I’m looking at Lloyd as a VC option this week.

Russty_

Did you bring in Lloyd instead of Mills Derek?…thought you were dead keen?

Derek

Got Lloyd

Ended up going Daniels instead of Mills. Didn’t look right having 2 swan defenders. I believed the running kicking defenders are gold this year.

Russty_

Remember when Daniel was a dodgy fwd choice, you never would’ve picked him, only since he was moved down back did he become a solid SC choice. Not sure why he scored so low, Noticed he had 6 muppets on Fanfooty, saw him get run down tackled a few times from the limited gametime I saw.

Derek

in the third quarter he kicked the ball straight to an opponent literally in the goal square. went from 62 down to 47 and never really recovered

Russty_

You could get Cockatoo if you don’t have a captain’s loophole player, Cocky should get a game at some point I’d think.

Rick Grimes

Lot of people abandoning HMS Cripps, which is admittedly listing badly towards the poop deck. Could turn into a nice POD tho when* he turns it around.

*when may also be never.

Derek

he was only $520k to start, so its not like its abandon ship to save the cash. My calculations means he needs to score 102 to justify his price, he isn’t a long way off that.

Rick Grimes

Yea I’m holding another week. But would like to see a bit more from him.

Derek

Shake says he’s playing each week needed injections. Not liking that.

demonsdelight

I read the same -not good

Shake n bake

Saying if it was pre season, he’d be put on ice for 4 to 6 weeks.

Derek

I guess I give him another week and see. Won’t loose a heap of cash cause he’s fairly cheap already

Russty_

I’d rather get Butters before he gains 40k and Cripps loses 20.

jimbo jones

the injections issue was not clear though / it was not clear where he is getting them and why / it just said irrespective of the injections he is not getting worse by playing.And all pre season we just heard how good he was in terms of fitness. Looking at him he doesnt seem to be as effective and I am unsure how much it is this unknown injury, vs a different speed of game. Dusty is one I missed this year and i am thinking of going Cripps to Dusty. But it is largely a sideways trade (albeit to a player with much better form). I am just really uncertain though on: 1. is Cripps just having a slow start; 2. will Cripps come close to the top 10 mids even if he improves.

JohnDJ59

Dusty will be a top 6 fwd, Cripps will not be a top 8 mid.

Russty_

Agree John I’m cutting him loose this week before he crashes and burns.

JohnDJ59

No point keeping him Russty, if you can get someone like Butters for the fwd line or Brayshaw/Titch in the mids.

Russty_

Yeah I don’t like hanging onto ‘playing hurt’ players, trading him and Dow to Butters and Jordon I now have 166k in the coffers.

Russty_

I can see Brayshaw being the trade I should have done instead of T.Kelly lol

JohnDJ59

I couldn’t see the attraction of T.Kelly, I know Derek liked him, but he was never on my radar. Butters and Jordon are both good in’s for your team Russty. I’ll probably be going Caldwell to Butters since he’s going to be out for 6 weeks.

Russty_

I’ve watched Kelly since he started and always thought he had a ton of talent, except the only thing casting a doubt over him was his D/E at the Cats, I thought now that he has come home to W.A, is settled at home with his family, and in a new role in a new team, he might have a chance to shine.
But it seems from that game anyway, the same problem still exists, his disposal efficiency which was 60%.
I also think he got robbed a bit cause I was watching the game live and in the last 5 minutes he did at least 3 good things and didn’t get credited with any points, he actually went backwards! WTF is that?

JohnDJ59

The scoring does seem a bit suspect sometimes this season, giving points to the wrong players or taking them off the wrong players in some games. I had T.Kelly in his first year in 2018, he was huge, but once you have to pay over 500k, you start to look at other players.

TigerNut

Hi community, seeking some feedback on possible trades. $276,600 in kitty
DEF Lloyd, Ryan, Short, H Young, Jiath, Highmore (Koschitzke, Sharp)
MID Neale, Steele, Oliver, Bont, Walsh, Bolton, Powell, Gulden (Brockman, McNeil, Scott)
RUC Meek, Flynn (Hunter)
FWD Hawkins, Dunkley, Butters, Daniher, L McDonald, B Campbell (Bergman, Rowe)

The 3 rookie ruck setup is working well, scored a 2420 this week ranked 217th for the week, 12,161 overall. In saying that… 
Hunter + Neale OUT, Gawn + J Jordon IN
Or
Sharp + Neale OUT, 1 of (A Brayshaw, Dusty, Cerra) + 1 of (Ridley, Houston, Bowes, Mills,)
Or any other ideas?

The Jinx

Awesome Rnd2 score Tiger.

I’d go with option 2(3) Sharp to Jordon and Neale for Dusty, Brayshaw or Ridley. You could pick up Gawn cheap in a week or two. Especially you have that $276K stashed in the bank, plus whatever leftover from Neale trade.

You could turn Hunter to Gawn in an instant.

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TigerNut

I wouldnt just be able to “pick up Gawn in a week or two” from having 3 rookie rucks, if i dont get Gawn now ill be building cash for the next 3-5 weeks to try get him in. its either Sharp (ave 35), or P Hunter (ave 39) who have to go. I think option one might be safer, Jordon will bring a lot of cash, and Gawn will bring me the 130’s as a solid scorer. Rather than banking on two premiums out of the lot, Ridley is a must have by seasons end. Cerra could overtake Brayshaw who knows. Ridley and Brayshaw/Dusty leaves me with $23k. If i bring in Jordon and Gawn leaves me with $223k.

The Jinx

Didn’t you say you have $276K in the bank.

Sharp to Jordon will cost you 6k
Neale to let say Ridley you have $174,100 leftover.

So 276+174 = 450K – 6K Total of $444K

Gawn is projected to lose $30K with a BE of 210 he’ll more likely to lose 50-70K in the next couple of weeks. He should be priced below $700K by then

Hunter may rise 50-70K he doesn’t need to score big to rise in price, in the next couple weeks. He’s price should be around $150K

444K + 150K = 594K
I’m sure by then you’ll be banking some cash on Rookies that gets dropped and picking up Rookies on the bubble.

Hunter to Gawn is doable in couple of weeks.

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The Jinx

Let’s try this again, for someone reason it’s waiting for a approval.

Nevermind!! Still waiting for approval. 🤦‍♂️

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Derek

JR SURVIVOR GROUPS

309 teams are in the starting gates…….. and they’re off.

It’s a bit of a messy start, so the organizers have decided there won’t be any eliminations after round 2.

We had a few teams had entered in multiple divisions, so that needed to be sorted out first (if you do see yourself still in more than 1 Division, can you jump out and stay in just one).

As a result the divisions are a little uneven, but nothing we can’t work out. Most Divisions have about 35 teams, except Div5 has 59 & Div9 has 7 (last call for anyone in Div5 to jump across to Div9 – 277782)

There is still places available in Division 9 – GROUP code 277782 (jump in)

Eliminations start THIS WEEK.

The lowest 4 scores for each round in Each Division (Division 5 it will be the lowest 6 scores) will be eliminated each week, unless they have the immunity necklace.

This will continue each round UNTIL the BYES or until there are 4 teams left standing in each Division. (there might be only 1 or 2 teams eliminated in Round 11, depending on how many are needed to have 4 remaining)

The final 4 from each Division, will then merge into the Champion of Champions Group to do battle after the byes for the Ultimate Survivor.

IMMUNITY THIS WEEK

Boy oh boy was there some amazing scores by some of our community members in round 2.

Div 1 – Obi-Wan Kenobi2.0 (2304)
Div 2 – Dam Dogs (2413)
Div 3 – Lokan Loaded (2426)
Div 4 – Singapore Flyers (2395)
Div 5 – ETH2.0 (2350)
Div 6 – Hall of Fame (2349)
Div 7 – Macraezies (2368)
Div 8 – Vicwood (2344)
Div 9 – BriansBrunch (2308)

The above teams have the Immunity Necklace for Round 3 and therefore can’t be eliminated.

Special shout out to Hall of Fame who is currently 19th Overall, and Dam Dogs who is 22nd.

thanks fellas.

Mr Pink

Cheers Derek 🙂 With my team the Dam Dogs I nailed the rookies and got lucky with a few late changes prior to Round 1. Butters looks my best pod (prior to this week anyway!) and the Atkins experiment seems ok. My main focus was to try to find a few mid-pricers that would make some cash but would also help limit the rookie exposure on field. Seems to be working so far. Trying to sit on trades but tempted to go Dow to Impey… what do you think…?

Derek

getting the rookie roulette right in the first few weeks really helps your rank. I got everyone wrong both weeks.

The rank is great, but keep focused on building team value. As the season goes on, you need to be around that $13.5 to $14m to compete in the run home.

Not sure Impey will give you a massive increase in value (not like a $123k rookie would). i was keen on him in the preseason because of the lack of rookies, but a few rookies turned up and i didn’t start him.

I wouldn’t be keeping Dow either if there is a good rookie you have missed, get onto him this week and hold your trades.

great start

Derek

Well done Mr Pink
getting the rookie roulette right in the first few weeks really helps your rank. I got everyone wrong both weeks.
The rank is great, but keep focused on building team value. As the season goes on, you need to be around that $13.5 to $14m to compete in the run home.
Not sure Impey will give you a massive increase in value (not like a $123k rookie would). i was keen on him in the preseason because of the lack of rookies, but a few rookies turned up and i didn’t start him.
I wouldn’t be keeping Dow either if there is a good rookie you have missed, get onto him this week and hold your trades.
Well done

Mr Pink

Thanks Derek (for both replies)… I got most of the rookies right: 3 swans (Warner sort of a rookie… didn’t get McDonald), Jordon, Powell, Berry, Brockman, Flynn, Highmore… also got Sharp, Scott and Rowe who haven’t done as well and Oea (loophole). Haven’t used a trade yet and I really want to flick Dow… but don’t see any obvious needs in terms of rookies. I can get Impey with a (sideways) luxury trade or switch Clark to mids and trade in Kossie who should at least get a game for a bit but might be a slow burn… would mean I put Highmore on the ground which I’d be happy with… McNiel was the other one who showed improvement in a big game… too much to think about and it’s only round 3… cheers

Derek

Good work.

You have started great, but don’t focus on your rank too much now, otherwise you start trading for the now to keep your rank instead looking out for the long haul.

Focus on the cash generation.

To stay highly ranked and to compete with the front runners for the run home you will need a decent team value and trades in the bank.

Make sure you have got all the good cheap rookies.

Dow should go, won’t make you much cash. Not sure Impey will either, the $200+ players usually don’t if you compare them to the $123k rookies.

Defenders do good against Richmond. Look at Saad last week and also Hardwick & Jaiah this week. Impey will be good, but look for the bargain rookies first

Derek

Well done Mr Pink

getting the rookie roulette right in the first few weeks really helps your rank. I got everyone wrong both weeks.

The rank is great, but keep focused on building team value. As the season goes on, you need to be around that $13.5 to $14m to compete in the run home.

Not sure Impey will give you a massive increase in value (not like a $123k rookie would). i was keen on him in the preseason because of the lack of rookies, but a few rookies turned up and i didn’t start him.

I wouldn’t be keeping Dow either if there is a good rookie you have missed, get onto him this week and hold your trades.

great start

JohnDJ59

I was the first to join Div 5, so I’m staying put.

Shake n bake

Cripps has been having weekly injections just to play.

Derek

Where did you hear that Shake?

Russty_

I saw it on the Fox Sports site.

Eric

Hey peeps
Tom Mitchell or Travis boak?
thanks

Hugh

Titch. Looks in his Brownlow form & underpriced @ $610k

Eric

Thanks Mate. I’m bringing him in! Even though he might get tagged this week. But yolo hahaha

Russty_

I think he still has a fair bit of polishing to do on his D/E, he seems to be getting a lot of disposals for not a lot of points…yet.

Derek

Who are you trading out?

Eric

Cripps. Not a fan of the injections before the game.

Shauno

Hey JR community, long time lurker here.
Started out the year really well, currently ranked 374 overall, highest I’ve ever been ranked and I’ve been playing since 2014.
Nailed all my rookie selections and avoided the pitfalls that a lot are experiencing at the moment by not starting Neale and Cripps.
I don’t feel like I have any MUST TRADE players, but there are some that after 2 rounds I’m a little iffy on. These are Jeremy Howe, Zerret and Josh Kelly. I really like the look of Brayshaw this year, and I’m in a position where I can make a luxury sideways trade using on of these guys to get him in.
Josh Kelly as long as he stays on the park I can see being a top 8 mid for the year. Zerret has the pedigree that he could be right up there too. Both of these guys are in teams that have been playing crap but I reckon they will bounce back. Howe I’m a little concerned with as it’s beginning to look like his few games last year and his preseason were a flash in the pan, an 85-90 average is probably where he is realistically at. I picked him in the hopes that he would replicate last years form, but with how many excellent options there are in defence this year I am struggling to justify $517k on a bloke who probably won’t be a top 6 in his line.
So with all that said, is Howe out for Brayshaw a good move? I’m struggling to think of reasons not to do it other than conserving trades…

Derek

Trading out Howe isn’t needed unless you think he is injured. You’re probably right about the 85-90 range, but that’s not bad for a season ending D6. Might cost you 150 – 200 points over the whole season, mate that’s not bad, and not worth a trade.

Without injury, I can’t see a massive difference between Brayshaw, Merrett or Kelly. Kelly is an injury concern, but I’d hang onto him now until the injury (hopefully it’s late in 4th quarter when it comes).

Trades are valuable and there are too many rounds to go to start sideways trading.

Get your rookies right. Sounds like you must have already to be ranked so well. Otherwise sit back and admire the view and how many trades you will have for later.

Russty_

His last game was 95 which is decent, maybe Moore is stealing a bit of his mojo but I don’t see Moore lasting scoring like that, I’m not against what you want to do if you believe it benefits your team going fwd. It could bite you though…or not, only time will tell. Brayshaw does look good though.

PeteB

Need to trade out Caldwell. Looking at Chad Warner for more cash generation. Scored 70 and 94 in first two games and priced at only $144k. Thoughts ?

JohnDJ59

A very good trade.

Russty_

Sounds good Pete

Derek

No brainer

JuddWarneLoveChild

So Cripps is apparently carrying a 4-6 week injury and being given shots before games. Think this makes any decision re trading him out a little easier. Link below –
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-injury-list-2021-afl-casualty-ward-injury-news-collingwood-covid-tests-brodie-grundy-jordan-de-goey-ben-cunnington/news-story/59c02c655d3aa25e03b27cff435ecce5

david

I saw him wince a number of times last Thursday and some of them came after non-contact disposals.
seems strange that it supposedly can’t get any worse but he requires injections to play.

Russty_

Hey Lek and or Crew…any updates on the possibility of actually changing the settings so that “newest comments” can actually be the newest comments?
Surely WordPress isn’t so primitive that tweaks can’t be made?…I’m sure it’d be for the benefit of all, rather than every time you refresh, it defaults to the “oldest comments”. It’s a bit tedious having to scroll way down the page to find a, or the latest comment, because the system doesn’t recognize responses to comments, as the newest comments…which is what they are.
I think your overall customer traffic could increase 3 fold if you could find a way to fix this glaringly obvious problem.
It was much better when it was Intense Debate.
Cheers.

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JohnDJ59

Agree Russty, I thought they were looking into this.

Russty_

Only reason I keep bringing it up is cause there’s never been any resolution to the question, one way or the other, if it’s not possible maybe they could just say that? Scrolling through an entire thread to find the actual “newest comment”…is laborious and time wasting and frankly it gives me the shits.
Surely these days the technology is there to adjust a website to make it more user friendly for all?

david

In wordpress sites/themes there is a sidebar which can be easily turned off or on. You can drag and drop whatever you want to appear in that sidebar and multiples are ok, comments, index, Twitter feed like they use now etc.
It’s a 2-minutes job to add most recent comments to the sidebar

Russty_

Thanks David, is this post intended for me or for Lek?…have you run a wordpress site before?…is it possible to tweak it so newest comments are actual newest comments?

Russty_

Just a bit of an amendment mate…If the Newest comments were actually the newest comments, it’d keep people more connected to the people that are actually on site at the time rather than comments posted 8 hours ago, or fk knows how much longer ago than that. That’s what keeps conversations flowing, and the energy up, when people are present and conversating. The way it is now…keeps people apart because it’s a discombobulated timeline, everyone’s always responding to something someone posted hours ago or longer…it sucks and it needs to be adjusted/fixed/repaired…and not ignored.
If anyone else here agrees with this, then voice it and maybe it can change for the better.

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demonsdelight

We have said it all before mate The other site has it on the side and you can go to that new comment without scrolling thru A number from here use it . Hard to believe it’s not getting thru Russty

The Jinx

How about sending them a mail at Jock Mailbag.

Russty_

Thanks for looking into it Lek, it still defaults to the oldest comments, and it’s a real shame the responses to comments don’t qualify as newest comments but thanks for trying.
Maybe David’s post below helps in some way? It’s a bummer that the default settings for WordPress seems to work against “liveness”…rather than with the actual latest comments always being at the top of the page.
That just seems to make sense.

andyp7

Hey Community! Which of the following options would you rather?
a) Neale & Chugg to Macrae & Warner (deal with Caldwell next week)
b) Caldwell & Chugg to Impey & Warner
Any help is appreciated!

Derek

I’d just look at Caldwell to Warner

Max the cash

Derek

Chugg DPP is very hand later

JohnDJ59

Neither, I’d go with Neale and Caldwell to Macrae and Warner.

Doc

Have to move caldwell on.
Thoughts on the best option. Have some cash in hand from Rowell to Jordan last week.

Walker (cash gen)
Butters (F5/6 keeper at 470k)
Dusty
Ridley (via swings).

JugHead

All are good ideas, but Dusty for mine. He is a must have in the forward line and is unlikely to get cheaper. You will want him in your team by the end of the season, and if you don’t get him now, you will want to later.

Dion

Bringing in Jordon for Downie but I need to generate cash from my second trade. Need help with it

1. Dow to McDonald
2. Clark to Impey

Would rather keep Clark than Dow but would rather bring in Impey than McDonald.

TommyC99

Hey guys,
so Henry to Jordon seems a no brainer so that trade is locked in. But the secon trade im not as sold on. At this stage i’ve got one of Scott/Sharp to Berry, but is Berry’s JS good enough? I could also Do daniher to Impey, does seem pretty sideways but daniher was lucky to get to 70 last week.

Could also hold as i made 2 trades last week. Would love your thoughts guys!

Russty_

Daniher is like a Giraffe, trying to eat the leaves off a very tall tree but the wind is blowing at 40 knots, so sometimes, he just can’t get a hold of the leaves with his mouth.
So consequently sometimes he just goes hungry and has to wait until the wind dies down before he can eat. The wind represents the defender who might be on him that week.

JohnDJ59

Hi Tommy, Henry to Jordon is the only one you need to do. Sharp to Berry would be handy, Berry is playing well and Daniher to Impey is very sidways and not worth it. However if you don’t have Warner or one of the other good rookie fwds then go Daniher to one of them. I stayed away from the expensive 200k+ rookies, couldn’t see any value in them.

Wtf

Anyone holding Henry (Collingwood )

Jim Sykes

Hi guys.

I have 3 options I am mulling over:

I would like to move on Duggan (oops) to Ridley but I’m 25k short. I can:

1. Trade N Cox to Jordan via DPP leaving me with 4 def rookies (highmore, kosy, sharp and A Fyfe as loophole) and no def/mid swing option

2. Trade Dow to Jordan via DPP which would break my Fwd/Mid swing options.

3. Trade N Cox and take a punt on Murray or Chapman after 1 week.

I’ve tried all 3 and I dont fully love or hate any of them. Please help.

Cheers.

Derek

Out Duggan and Dow. Bang bang

The Jinx

Yup! Duggan & Dow and don’t worry about mid/fwd swing for now, it will sort itself out when you upgrade rookies in couple weeks or so.

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Kat

In 2 minds and not sure which way to go. Didn’t need to use any trades the first week (avoided the injuries etc) but need to deal with Caldwell this week and have the Neale conundrum.
By luck I have all the good rookies bar Warner so do I :
a) trade Caldwell to Warner or Tex and Dow to Warner
b) get rid of Neale along with Caldwell and pick up Martin and Heeney and so get one keeper for 2
or
c) even Martin and Warner for Neale and Caldwell and have a big cash reserve to spend.

Is warner a must have if I have all the other rookies ?? Head says I shouldn’t trade a premo in Neale but he hasn’t done much in 3 games and although he MIGHT come good if I don’t make the call on him this week the cash drop is to big to correct.
My team is not doing so great so far so might take some bold move. Would love peoples thoughts

JohnDJ59

Hi Kat the fact that you avoided the injuries and suspension last week, means you can be aggressive with your trades this week. I have been telling people to hold Neale, but on the basis that they had used trades already. If I was in your situation with your team, I would go with option 3, trade out Neale and Caldwell for Dusty and Warner. I didn’t start Neale, I thought he was over priced, plus I wanted to see how he went after no pre-season, you have a chance to correct a mistake. Dusty is a must in the fwd line and Warner is averaging over 80 and will make 100k in two weeks. Good luck Kat, hope I have helped.

David C

I’d be holding Neale if I had him. He’s got Collingwood, Dogs, Bombers and Carlton as his next 4 opponents. I’d be surprised if any used a hard tag on him. Dogs and Bombers don’t tag, Buckley said he’d consider it but he rarely tags.

david

I want to trade Cripps but with the rate of injuries and suspensions this year it is not wise to trade out players who are actually playing even if their scores are below par

Rick Grimes

I’m wrestling with that argument myself. SC 101 is hold premos early unless injured. But Cripps is injured, so technically maybe he should be traded. We are told he can play through the discomdort, but what if next game he can’t and they pull him at ht. Or maybe they are winning by heaps / getting flogged so they bench him last qtr. I think he has to go.

Derek

“He’s been able to train more this week than he has in the last couple of weeks. We’re very confident that after the 10-day break, we’re going to see a really good Patrick Cripps on Sunday versus Fremantle.”

i will give Cripps one more week.

I have two rookies to bring in this week anyways.

Rick Grimes

Thanks for the Intel Derek. Will give him a stay of execution.

Jim Sykes

Is trading in Moore as horrible idea as my brain thinks it is? Even to fix the rubbish selection of Duggan?

david

If the game continues being played as it is being played Moore will continue scoring as he has been scoring.
I’m turning Caldwell into him

Donavan

Walker or Warner?
I’m thinking Walker, as he has scored well even when Adelaide haven’t won.
But the Sydney youngsters are exciting, and have a great run of games after Richmond.

Lazza

TaHeeney or not? Is he an essential ingredient? Each year I tell myself “never again”.. but his tease factor has never been higher. I’m looking to offload both Daniher and Dow which would give me a bank of $657,300. I have pretty much nailed the rookies but could add Berry and/or Warner. Do I just add these two and bank the cash or select one and Heeney? I already have Martin, Butters and Ziebell and Campbell. So which option (or other idea)
Heeney + Berry + $85k, or
Heeney + Warner + $58k, or
Berry + Warner + $396k.

The Ranger

Option 2 for mine Lazza

JohnDJ59

Option 3, get the good rookies in while you can.

Lazza

I’m a little short on Premos JD.. I have 11 keepers plus Hunter Clark.. Heeney could make 12.. I started with 13 rookies – Gulden, Campbell, Highmore, Jordan, Powell, Flynn, Meek, McNeil, Scott, Rowe, Kossy, Brockman and Fullerton. All are in the black.. plus aside from Daniher and Dow, I have Clark, HYoung and Ziebell who are also in the black.. hopefully they stack up to be stepping stones .. but I’m not going to be able to trade out all of them over the season.. so I’m thinking off adding only 1 rather than 2..
is there a flaw in my thinking??

JohnDJ59

Hi Lazza, nothing wrong with your thinking, but I look at it this way, Daniher and Dow were really just expensive rookies, so your structure remains the same, you are just picking up less expensive, better scoring and better cash generation rookies going to Warner and Berry. Cash generation is king at the start. If I had one I could downgrade to for Caldwell , I would, but I have all the good rookies already. Heeney isn’t going up a lot anytime soon, Berry could make 150k in four weeks, Warner 100k in two weeks. Having said that if you feel happier going with Heeney, go for it, I just like cash generation over points at this stage.

Russty_

Hi Larry, great start to the year mate, I’d consider trading out H.Clark before he turns into a bit of dead weight, he seems to have been pushed out of the mids as opposed to him allegedly being in there for this year, also his 72% tog is concerning to me because just why Coach ?…especially when we played so crap and lost, on Spud’s tribute game.

Lazza

Hi Russty, yep, I was looking to upgrade him to Lloyd next week .. but maybe could do Ridley now … waiting a week gives me confirmation on Clark but also a projected 25 to 30k discount on the Lloyd trade. But, will cost me more for Ridley.. problem is that I don’t like making ‘keeper’ calls on only two game samples.. (the Tex syndrome)

Paul

Hey Community!
I’m currently sitting around the 760 mark and would love some of your wisdom as to where to take my team next.

DEF: Lloyd, Laird, Stewart, Doch, Jiath, Clark (Kosi, Highmoore)
MID: Kelly, Fyfe, Oliver, Walsh, Cripps, Campbell, Gulden, Jordon (Powell, Brockman, Smith)
RUCK: Gawn, Flynn (Hunter)
FWD: Dunkley, Dusty, Ziebell, Daniher, Dow, Warner (Rowe, Bergman)
15k in the bank
Only used 1 trade so far (Danger to Dusty).
Was thinking Dow to Berry via dpp and Cripps to Titch or Macrae. (this will hurt as i’m a beloved blues fan, but stoppages down 20-30% i feel lessen’s Cripps’s influence immensely.
Other thoughts i had were Cripps to Brayshaw in 1 trade. But i feel i’d prefer to lock in a guaranteed keeper such as Titch and co.
However, with Fyfe out injured am I better to hold Cripps as he is playing and trade Fyfe?

Any thoughts would be of great help.
Thanks community!

The Ranger

Nice start Paul, Fyfe to Macrae is good, not sold on Dow – Berry.
I’d hold Cripps if I had him.

Paul

Thanks mate, I agree I’m not sold on the Dow – Berry trade either, that’s just what gives me the money to make Cripps a Macrae or Titch if i was to trade him.

Sorry i was wrong in original post, not 15k in the bank, 85,900k in the bank as i went danger down to dusty last week.
But I’m $400 off going Cripps to Titch in 1 trade. If i could do that then i certainly wouldn’t bother trading Dow

JohnDJ59

Hi Paul, I’d hold Fyfe, you can put him on the bench, trade out Dow for Berry move Brockman to the fwd line and put Berry on field in the mids and have the E on Powell. Cripps to either Titch or Brayshaw could also work since you only used one trade last week.

Paul

Thanks mate, that is what i was leaning towards.
Although i was wrong in my post. I have 85,900k in the bank not 15k as i made money going danger to dusty. It leaves me $400 off going to Titch in 1 trade but can easily go Brayshaw in 1 trade and then save the other.
But still nervous going another speculative top 10 mid, think i lean towards making both the trades to make Cripps a Macrae or Titch as barring injury they have both proven they are there.

Thanks for the thoughts!

Paul

Hey John, other thought I had is i can trade Cripps, bring laird or Clark into mids and bring in Ridley in def.
Benefits are I’d only need 1 trade to get it done. Not a keeper mid but a keeper def.
Or you reckon it’s worth the 2 trades to get Titch or Macrae?

Cheers

JohnDJ59

I like the idea of Cripps to Ridley.

JohnDJ59

Neale has a back problem, time to trade if you have him.

Russty_

I’m just gonna hang on for a bit and see what happens John, don’t need to trade him out and then back in again. I’ve already burned 4 so need to abstain at some point…ended up going for Brayshaw over Butters this week.

JohnDJ59

Good move.

Shake n bake

Neale will come into rd3 with a sore back

ThatsGoldJerry

Hi, I was considering trading Neale…How accurate is your info on his back ?

Shake n bake

He’ll play but at training couldn’t really bend

Derek

I should have offered you Neale instead of Brayshaw

Shake n bake

My mids is 💩 but cant except your latest offer.

Mikey C

What do people think about Sam Switkowski from Freo? He’s had a great start to the season. He finished 2019 really well, with a few scores in the 90s, but missed the whole of last season. It looks like he could make over $100000 in the next 3 weeks, and has the next four against Carlton, Hawthorn, Adelaide and North.

Russty_

I brought him into my Draft side this week Mikey, if you have a good feeling about him, go for it mate.

Joel

Got a few trade options this week with a few tweaks I would like to make, would love your thoughts community! Which 2 to I do out of:
Trade Neale to Oliver
Trade Cripps to Brayshaw or Ridley
Trade one of Bruhn/A. Scott to Jordon

Derek

Jordan should come in for a non-playing rookie. See who doesn’t get picked. Scott must be close

Lazza

Hey Joel, no brainer getting rid of Bruhn for Jordan.. I’d also trade Cripps to either Brayshaw or Ridley depending on the strength of each line. At this time it seems it will be easier this season to trade up on the MIDs than the DEF. Like most I’d be fattening my DEF first.

Dave

Dow to Impey
H.Jones to Impey
Or hold? Would be my 3rd trade for the year and have all other rookies

JohnDJ59

Hold.

Russty_

Hi John, I’m a bit concerned about H.Clark since Gresham and Jones came back into the side, he’s lost some CBA midfield time as a result, only 9 CBA’s (35%) and only 72% TOG, looks like he’s getting squeezed out and his scores will suffer. Already as it is now he won’t make any money, he’d need to score something special to rise, I was just hoping for consistent scores but I don’t think that can happen now…because the promise of him being mostly midfield this year, was a lie.

JohnDJ59

Hi Russty, I was a little bit concerned with him only scoring 71 on the weekend, I might wait until I have enough cash and trade him up to Lloyd in a few weeks time. Or I could downgrade him to L.Young.

Russty_

It’s very disappointing, I just wanted to let you know that he’s probably gonna be a dud now and not a gun, and it’ll be for the reason that he won’t get the opportunity that we thought he would, thanks to the coach. The only reason Jones gets the nod over him is because he can’t play anything but mids.

Lazza

Can’t believe Jones is in their best 22.. his decision making and disposal is atrocious at times ..

DEESNUTSRBIG

Neale out.
Super Premo/Drive by cash & grab Tex Walker is in.
423k banked.
Back 2 back 70’s, trouble with the tag, about to bleed cash, injury concern – too big a risk to hold.

David C

11020 have so far traded out Neale, 16143 have traded in Walker … absolute madness.

PeteB

So how reliable is this info on a back injury to Neale ? If he’s going to return to being a top 6 mid I don’t want to waste a trade. But if he’s gonna keep turning in low scores and lose value need to turn him into a Bont or Boak. Tough decision this week.

John

I’ve got lucky with the rookies and nailed them all, so with that in mind I’m about to use my first 2 trades, looking at a couple of sideways to get the points flowing, held Danger because I wanted to see if Dusty and Ridley backed up their Rd1 heroics, as it turns out they did and now have become essential before price rises, so Danger to Dusty and Cripps to Ridley via Sharp, it leaves me somewhat exposed with Neale, Steele Macrae and Oliver in the engine room but with Powell Berry Jordon and Gulden rolling along nicely I’d prefer them than relying on Rowe, Kozi etc…good trades or hold the sideways action?

demonsdelight

I am thinking similar John I read an old Russty comment where he suggested Neale and Sharpe .  for Dusty and Brayshaw but as usual 3 k short BUT DUSTY AND RIDLER works with a zero balance PHEW. gives me an extra genuine prem in Rids and a worthy replacement for Neale in Dusty If i chose the rookie path it would take 3 weeks to get to a Dusty plus an extra trade I think Russty is on the money

John

Cheers DD, yes I was thinking of trading both the injured boys Neale and Cripps and holding Danger as I feel the rest will do him the world of good and they do play Norf on his return so expecting a big one from him, just feel that Neales going to be the harder one to get in if he turns it around.

John Legend

Facing my first trades of the year, with Caldwell being on the shelf long term and also wanting to cut my losses with Phillips. I have two trades in mind:
Caldwell and Phillips to Impey and Jordon, gives me almost 500k to work with
Caldwell and Phillips to Andy Brayshaw and Jordon, gives me 150k but i bring in a mid premo
I feel like having the extra bank is going to be key for the year, but i also feel bringing in a POD-ish player in Brayshaw will help with the season rankings since im sitting in the top 4%
Thoughts or alternative trade ideas would be great

DEESNUTSRBIG

Yeah Caldwell and Phillips have to go.
Super Premo/Drive by cash & grab Tex Walker is coming into my side over Impey, will make more money and much faster. Jordan is a no-brainer.
However a keeper like Brayshaw over a money maker is always a tough call.

John Legend

yeah as much as it makes me sick, walker seems to be the must add this week for me. worst case scenario he spuds it up for two weeks and i flip him for a mid

demonsdelight

Thought about that with Neale but a sideways trade to another prem is a waste however Neale and a dud rookie to 2 class prems like dusty and brayshaw or ridley appeals more than a money grab with Walker and Warner

JohnDJ59

Brayshaw and Jordon, lock them in.

Shake n bake

The big O out good for Grundy owners

Jordan

Pretty happy with my squad overall, had to use 2 trades last week for rowell and danger, will bench fyfe till he is back.
I’m thinking of not using a trade this week but am tossing up whether it’s worth moving daniher or Clark to a walker or impey. Daniher/Clark will both make cash, which is why I started with them, but it’ll be alot less than the 2 targets.
Would it be a waste to use a trade here? And who would you rather between Tex and impey?

JohnDJ59

Hold.