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2021’s Initial Team Reveals

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We did it, Community! We’ve made it into 2021. Everyone deserves a pat on the back and a pint of solo for surviving the worst year imaginable.

With the New Year comes a new SuperCoach season. Whilst the cricket boys are scouting games on the Gold Coast, some of us have already turned our attention onto the footy.

We have compiled everyone’s first look, no research sides to try to identify some hidden selections for you. Everyone has identified what selections they have made, and offered some justification for their picks.

Without further ado, here is the Breakdown.

Azza

Who is your sure-fire pick for 2021?
Hard to go past Jake Lloyd. Sure he is the 5th most expensive player in SuperCoach 2021, but consistency and durability is so important in SC. Hasn’t missed a game for 3 years and last year, only went under 100 once.

Who is the first rookie picked?

Tom Powell in a heartbeat. There will be plenty of opportunities at North after a brutal clean out in the off-season, giving Powell a red hot chance of playing Round 1. Then there is his ridiculous stats in the SANFL in 2020. In the 15 games he played, he averaged 35 touches and averaged 153 SC points, exceeding 200 TWICE. Yes please.

Who do you see as value you can’t ignore?

Braydon Preuss. Finally getting a hold of the #1 ruck mantle he’s been chasing, now is the time for him to shine and breakout. Sure Mumford is still hanging around, but I can’t see Mumford playing any games unless Preuss (god forbid) suffers an injury or suspension. Looking at the 4 rare games Pruess was the solo ruckman (and not sharing ruck duties) he averaged 36 hitouts and 105 SC points which is music to my ears and value that is near impossible to pass up at only $303,000.

Who is the trap of 2021?

Lance Franklin. Sure he’s cheap at $312,000 and has averaged as high as 115 in previous seasons, but his body has consistently let him down lately, and you don’t want a mid-price player that is going to let you down. Avoid.

Who needs to impress you in preseason?
Everyone. 😄 Let’s just hope that I don’t get sucked in like I did last pre-season selecting Darcy MacPherson in my final side….

Barron

Who is your sure-fire pick for 2021? 

Rory Laird’s move into the midfield in the 2nd half of the year makes him a sure-fire winner again since he maintains his DEF eligibility. May not get to Jake Lloyd levels of 120+ SCPoints, but he legitimately could still be 10-15 points underpriced for this year.

Who is the first rookie picked? 

Tom Powell. Watched him play a fair bit this year and was always impressed with what he could do. 

Who do you see as value you can’t ignore? 

We all hoped for that Connor Rozee break in 2020, which started promising, but quickly flamed out. I’ll be putting my Supercoach Money on him getting a bigger role in the midfield in 2021 and his scores improving because of it.

Who is the trap of 2021? 

Rory Sloane. His SC average fell from 103 to 87.8 in 2020, so his price is looking reasonable at $471K, but I fear the best of Sloane is behind him and he will slowly be phased out from the Crows midfield over 2021 while the likes of Jackson Hately and Harry Schoenberg take larger roles in the midfield.

Clarky

Who is your sure-fire pick for 2021?
Matt Rowell. We only got to see a small portion of what Rowell is capable of after his season was tragically ended early. If his pre-season is strong he is an absolute must have. Rowell has shown he lives and breathes footy, even when injured and I need that kind of moxy in my team.

Honorable mention for my first picked player Max Gawn. A captaincy option every week if his body holds up. 

Who is the first rookie picked?
Archie Perkins.
In an ideal world I think Perkins can add strongly to the bombers. His speed and kicking ability would make him a welcome addition, provided he can get on the park. It’s still early though but definitely one to watch.

Who do you see as value you can’t ignore?

Braydon Preuss.
Preuss has moved on to bigger and better things and, with common sense willing, should get the number one ruck position at GWS. He’s shown he has the capabilities but has always shared the stage. Time to step into the spotlight.

Who is the trap of 2021?
Lance Franklin.
I don’t think any single person should even consider Buddy. There are just all round better options out there, even if he has recovered.

Christian Petracca is also somebody I’m skeptical of at his price. 2020 was an amazing year for one of my favourite midfielders. However,  I’ll be taking a wait and see before investing again for 2021.

Who needs to impress you in preseason?
Sam Walsh or Jackson Hately. Two absolutely amazing footballers who are on the cusp of pushing to that next level for SuperCoach. Also, literally any and all the rookies.

Damo

Who is your sure-fire pick for 2021? 

Rory Laird and Steele Sidebottom were my first picks, locked and loaded. Dual position thank you very much.

Who is the first rookie picked? 

Will Phillips. Should get plenty of opportunity at the Roos and play in the middle from day dot. 

Who do you see as value you can’t ignore? 

Ben Brown at 260k. Main man up forward for the Dees now and should get far better supply. Don’t know if he’s a keeper though. 

Who is the trap of 2021? 

Dyson Heppell. Yes, he’s cheap. Yes, he could play across half back. But it’s a bit too stinky for me.

Who needs to impress you in preseason?

It’s more that I need a few rookies to impress their coaches in the preseason. I haven’t overlooked anyone for that reason as yet.

Dyl

Who is your sure-fire pick for 2021?

Patrick Dangerfield. FWD eligibility means he is an absolute lock. He is one of the premier players in the competition and has averaged above 105 every season since 2012. Might spend some more time forward but I’m not too concerned by that at this stage. He’s still Chris Scott’s go to man, hasn’t lost any swagger and will be all in chasing that elusive premiership. 

Who is the first rookie picked?

It’s always hard to get the rookies right at this time of year, when we are simply basing selections off U18 form (which is limited for some draftees, thanks COVID) and whispers. I’ve heard good things about Tom Powell though, who averaged 153 SC points in the SANFL in 2020. I think he will slot straight into the North midfield. James Rowe, Jacob Wehr and Lachie Jones are all hopefully there Round 1 for their respective sides too.

Who do you see as value you can’t ignore?

Matt Rowell is the only player I have between 200-560k in this initial draft. More often than not mid-pricers flop (definitely exceptions to the rule, eg #BrayshawBreakout) but personally I prefer to spend up for proven premiums and the best of the best rookies. Rowell started his AFL career with a bang averaging 126.5 points across his first four games before injury struck. In 3 of those games he was BOG too. Fingers crossed he is fit and firing in 2021!

Who is the trap of 2021?

Dyson Heppell. Yuck. Heppell’s best is way past him and the Bombers must look to the future and play their youngsters in the midfield, otherwise they’ll continue their trend of mediocrity. Injuries clearly are a worry for him and Hately has more upside at a similar price. Also, Essendon stinks. 

Not necessarily traps, but I’ve also got a wait-and-see policy on the Doggies midfield at the moment. It’s absolutely stacked and I’m unsure who will be the pick of the bunch this year.

Who needs to impress you in preseason?
Like all avid SuperCoaches, the pre-season is super critical to the make up of my side. We get a look at rookies in match play but also get a glimpse at what sort of role some of the more seasoned players will get in the upcoming season. 

Rory Laird, Luke McDonald, Jackson Hately, Sam Walsh, Braydon Preuss and Ben Cunnington are some who I will be keeping a close eye on from that perspective, but the pre-season comp is really the place where rookies can put their hand up. 

FozDaddy

Who is your sure-fire pick in 2021?

Can you go past Gawn? The man put up outrageous numbers last season after starting the year over $700k. People were questioning whether he was worth it in the preseason, and he clearly heard all the noise. Lock him as a VC/C every week.

Who is the first rookie picked?

Tom Powell is a SuperCoach’s dream pick. Got a slightly hefty rookie price tag due to being a first round selection, but he’ll play a big role in North’s midfield and is very SuperCoach friendly. He averaged 35 touches and over 150 points a game in the SANFL last year.

Who do you see as value you can’t ignore?

Sam Walsh had a blazing end to 2020, as he was injected firmly into the guts after starting the year on the wing. He has an absolute tank, meaning the 20 minute quarters will benefit him immensely. I don’t see a situation where Williams’s arrival forces Walshy back out of the centre, especially after seeing him finish the year better than Crippa.

Who is the trap of 2021?

Any Bulldogs midfielder. You’ll notice that only Dunkley is in any of our sides. Even that is a questionable move for me, but I understand it. I imagine Bevo will try to appease his star by giving him non-ruck minutes, however there’s too many ball winners in that side. Macrae, Treloar, Bontempelli, Dunkley, Hunter, Lipinski, Liberatore, Smith. Sharing the sugar = bad SuperCoach and sad FozDaddy.

Who needs to impress you in preseason?

Ben Cunnington is floating through my head, however I’ve left him out of my side. If he looks fit and playing a friendly role in the preseason, he’ll force his way into my team. Despite looking 40, he’s only 29 and in the prime of his career.

Patch

Who is your sure-fire pick for 2021? 

Luke Ryan was phenomenal last year while playing (essentially) full-back. With the return of key defenders, I’m banking on him having more scope to peel off and take more intercept marks. He’s also likely to be a massive POD.

Who is the first rookie picked? 

Lachie Jones, although I don’t know if he breaks into that Port side. Will Phillips and Tom Powell two immediate selections for mine as well. 

Who do you see as value you can’t ignore? 

Matt Rowell, for all the reasons listed above. Sure, he’s only played five games, but he’s incredible. Words can’t quite do it for me. 

Who is the trap of 2021? 

Dyson Heppell, for those people who insist he’s a chance to score well? He’s absolutely not. I’m also not convinced Archie Perkins plays much early. Actually can I just say Essendon is the trap of 2021?  

Who needs to impress you in preseason?

Jye Caldwell. I’m not sure where he sits for the Bombers and how much midfield time he gets. If he fills a Townsend or Devon Smith-type role, he might not be worth picking. He’s in my team for now, but I’ve been burned by Essendon mid-pricers before and reckon I will be again.

Lekdog

Who is your sure-fire pick for 2021?

Rory Laird, he is just about my first picked every year but Adelaide are finally using him in the midfield! He averaged 113.7 from round 7 onwards last year and he’s a lock to average over 100 again in 2021.

Who is the first rookie picked?

James Rowe, I wanted him at the Blues but for Supercoach the Crows are an even better side for him to land. Averaged 96 in the SANFL last year and will play early in Adelaide. He won’t maintain that output but a 65+ average will do nicely.

Who do you see as value you can’t ignore?

There are plenty of options for this category so I’ll say Dylan Roberton. He trapped a few last year but at $140k it won’t take much to impress me. Just needs to be named round 1!

Who is the trap of 2021?

Jack Macrae, he is normally my first picked but this year he’s a trap. The Dogs will try and appease Josh Dunkley with plenty of midfield time and Adam Treloar can’t play anywhere else (he might be the best Dog to pick in 2020) so it looks like Macrae will sit on the wing like he did in sorts of 2020.

Who needs to impress you in preseason?

Brodie Grundy, he’d better have a big preseason. I want to pick him but there are some value options in the ruck line that are tempting me. He’s still in my current side but any sign of disinterest and I’m flicking him.

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Derek

So much information to digest.

Thanks fellas, great to see everyone putting in a big effort.

Thought I’d have a crack at the questions myself as I’m waiting for my young fellas cricket training to finish.

Who is your sure-fire pick for 2021?

T Mitchell. Is a lock to be in top 8 midfielders. Had a slow start to 2020, first 5 games was below average while he got match fitness. One of the few elite midfielders who had less TOG during 2020 than previous years (88% down from 90% in 2018). $610k is practically stealing him.

Who is the first rookie picked?

Gould sat on my bench all of 2020. So I guess he is already picked.

Who do you see as value you can’t ignore?

You can treat Jarman Impey as a rookie priced player at only $212k. In Hawks best 22 and should be a 70-80 scorer most weeks. Can be selected as a forward where reliable rookies are usually hard to find.

Who is the trap of 2021?

Anyone who had a score bump in 2020 because of their extra TOG with 16 minute quarters. Gawn 85% to 92%, a 9% TOG increase resulted in a 9% increase in his SC average.

Who needs to impress you in preseason?

Preseason isn’t for premiums to show us what they can do, most go at half pace. However I will be closely watching How Crips is moving and how much medical tape he has on.

Jesse Hogan at his new club has a massive opportunity to be a premium. If he looks happy his price is right

Box

No love for Howe or Witherden,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, not so sure about that!

Russty_

They’re just posting their teams, doesn’t mean they don’t endorse Howe or Witherden.
I think Howe and Witherden are great choices this year, I’m not so sure about the amount of commas you use but I’ll let you off this time 😉

Box

Gee thanks for being so kind about my poor punctuation Rusty, I do get the whole first draft thing as I have been doing this for a while.

bombers56

Thanks for some good ideas.
No love for Ridley in defence?

Russty_

I was thinking about starting Ridley this year too but he developed a disturbing trend last year with his scoring….it went a bit like this 124, 70, 115, 76, 136, 73, 119, 64.
The YOYO factor there turns me off starting him this time around but he will no doubt be a premo in the near future.

Derek

at his price i’ll leave him alone to start. wait until we see how the bombers line up this year. won’t be surprised to see smith and heppel in defense. see how they work together

Russty_

Yep Heppell in defence, but don’t really see Ridley’s role changing, he’s a brilliant intercept mark and elite kick, always seems to use it well to move it forward..for SC, he just needs to get more consistent in the scoring.

Accurate Jack

Powells stats were sanfl u/18’s. Massive difference from u/18’s to seniors unless you’re Matty Rowell.
Phillips is more likely to get midfield time in 2021 than Powell

Russty_

Is it worth forking out for Phillips or are guys like Pedlar, Campbell or Perkins better value?
Powell’s highlights looked pretty good though.

Bells

Sorry folks but still hard to see Gould getting much of a run this year.
McCartin looked McGovern like the last few rounds, Melican back in form after regaining full fitness, Rampe should be back, Fox has his best year and became a fan favourite, Mills is rock solid. Gould on the bench behind that lot and has the bigger Brand to compete with if one of the KPDs go down.

Derek

i’m hoping that Gould becomes Mills mk2. Mills into the guts.

Bells

Mills doesn’t look much chop as a mid IMHO. And certainly no better than Hewett, Rowbottom, or even Clarke who he’d be replacing in there. On the plus side he’s bloody good where he is.
If I was a betting man I’d have Gould down to return to the farm next year. Built like a bulldog, but were’ trying to turn him into a greyhound.

Derek

Mills hasn’t had much opportunity as a mid. played a tagging role a couple of times this year and scored quite well. Mid is were he should be

Worp the Line

Any love for T. Kelly to hit his straps at WC this season ? Around Rowell price, 4th season breakout to uber premium ?

Derek

he is in my team at the moment.

i’m putting a line through his 2020 season

Russty_

Worth the punt I reckon Worp, he can go big and get plenty of it, 2020 was a weird year for everyone and not really to be counted I reckon, he could easy raise his average by 10 or 15.

Derek

it was a weird season for Kelly and the rest of the WCE mids, clearly under-performed.

The encouraging part was Kelly had scores of 140,150 & 180 during the year, so he has the ability to go very big.

he is in the sweet spot regarding his number of games played, his age durability (missed only one game since starting)

if they play a reasonable number of games in perth this year, he will be ok

At $517k he is currently my M5

Russty_

Could be a good call Derek, I was leaning towards Walsh but Kelly is in the same category but cheaper and possibly bigger ceiling. West Coast would be wanting to do better this year.

Russty_

Yeo not likely to be ready for round one so that helps also.

Whitey

I’ll be watching T.Phillips closely in the pre-season as well as Heeney in the fwd line. Howe in defence to see if he is taking kick in on his return.

Russty_

Heeney’s a strange one, he always seems to let us down when we need him but then ends up averaging 95 or so for the season, thereby not letting us down.

David

Here’s somebody who could be a cash generating points scoring POD
Noah Anderson
Rounds 1>10 ave 65.8
Rounds 11>18 ave 91.28 including 3 times 110+ and when his mate comes back he will get even better.
He’s priced to ave 77 and could easily ave 107 if Rowell is back and firing

Russty_

Hi Dave, Anderson’s good alright but 2 Gold Coast midfielders in the squad could be a bit much, I’d pick Rowell in a heartbeat over Anderson, he’s like Clarrie on crack

David C

I think Andersons numbers will go down not up when Rowell is back and firing.

dontblushbaby

As a Tiger supporter I don’t any of them in my team ATM, however I have Noah Balta as a big watch, at only 21 he will take a lot of confidence out last year , awkwardly priced at 374k- ave 70, could end up at 550k- ave 100 – thinking an Alex Rance type breakout

Russty_

Weird isn’t it dbb?…3 out of 4 premierships and no one really wants any or many Tigers in their SC squads, reckon that’s a testament to the evenly spaced teamwork that must run through the veins of that team.
Is it worth having Maurice Rioili jr on my bench this year..or aren’t there any spots likely to open up?

Derek

bit like the Hawks a few years ago. Mitchell was a defender one year, but don’t remember having to many others

David

Hodge was a lock for a while, Gunston a regular top 10 fwd, smith used to get Duncan like numbers and they had a fwd who’s name eludes me. He came from WA lance somebody

David

That Roughead character was also a SC GUN and Sam Mitchell.
Hawks had heaps of individual stars when they won their flags Tigers are an enigma. They’re like the 2016 Trump campaign, lost the popular vote by more than 5 million votes but still won the election.
Seriously though, CD rate the Tigers mids on ave as Dusty 40th best mid, Prestia 59th, Edwards 74th, Bolton 75th, Graham 83rd, Cotchin 86th, McIntosh 125th, Caddy 147th.
Based on those ratings you’d think that the midfield wasn’t the most important line to win in AFL or, CD stats are not indicative of a players value to a team win.

David

Interesting facts for 2021 Supercoach
When sorted by price (= score+reliability in 2020)
Top 10 Forward eligible players have a combined ave of 101.8 and only the top 6 ave over 100
Top 10 Defender eligible players have a combined ave of 104.9 (all 10 ave over 100)

What does this mean?

  • It is easier to get the defenders right than it is to get forwards right
  • You should start with more premium defenders than premium forwards
  • Z Williams is a lock
Lekdog

Not sure why the site blocks your comments David. Maybe it doesn’t like your email?

David

I don’t think there is much chance of Z Williams playing as a defender this year.
You only need to compare Carltons list of defenders to their list of midfielders to see why.
Docherty, Saad, Weitering, Newman, Jones, Petrevski-seton, Plowman are all in Carltons best 22 plus they have Williamson who finally put some games together in 2020 and Marchbank who has supposedly recovered from a broken neck. They drafted L.Parks from Glenelg and his highlights reel is superb, better than Marchbank, and they have the mercurial L.Stocker hiding in a cupboard somewhere.
We could see Newman played forward, SPS dropped, Marchbank retire and there still wouldn’t be a need for z.Williams in the backline.
Williams will be pure midfielder at carlton and easily ave the 100 required to be a top 10 defender in SC

David

Yesterday I posted a brief analysis that identified why we should start with more prem defenders than prem forwards in 2021. For some reason the post was ‘stopped for review’

Russty_

Probably for the same reason that “team picker not working” post never got replied to.

David

I like this edition
Def
Lloyd-Whitfield-Stewart
L.McDonald-Z.Williams-L.Young (RR)
Mid
Neale-Oliver-TMitch-Cripps
Rowell-Heppell-Phillips-Cockatoo (RRR)
Ruck
Gawn-Preuss (R)
Fwd
Marshall-Ziebel-Daniher
Henry-Macrae-Rowe (RR)
I’ve gone heavy in def at the expense of forwards for the reasons outlined in my analysis that is awaiting approval.
Uncommon selections
Lachie young should slot straight into Roos lineup and do better for longer than any of the higher priced def rookies.
I predict Heppell becoming the halfback general for what is now an inexperienced defensive line ala Docherty in 2017. If he stays fit he could be the steal of the year.
Daniher is apparently loving life in Brisbane and is healthier than he has ever been. He is a much better footballer than the other cheap forwards (except buddy) and could easily ave 100+ as the Brisbane focal point before he breaks again.

I named the current onfield rookies for no real reason

David

hahahahaha
I can vaguely remember that version

Russty_

Yep it’s a bit like that ay?…I tried a side today without Neale, Gawn or Grundy and I ended up with a half decent looking side and only 4 rookies onfield.
I came to my senses, thinking of abandoning the Preuss start now.

David

I’m currently playing around with Marshall at R2.
There is a lot of value in the fwd line under 300k such as stringer, sturt, brown, ziebell, Daniher, and also a few potential fwd breakouts between 300-350 Caldwell, Riccardi,Scott, Naughton, King, McKay, Blakey.
With Marshall at R2 I can have Heeney and 3 or 4 from the risk groups above

David

It looks risky but if I start with Williams at D5 and Heppell at M6 my only on field rookies would be 2 in the middle.
Worth a look: Both of the GC academy picks (Davies & Jeffrey) are in the mix for a round 1 start and both only 102k. Both would have been high 1st round picks if they were available in the draft

Russty_

2 rooks onfield would be pretty cool, most guys will have 6 or 7 picked before first teams are released and then be chopping and changing them for rooks they didn’t even want just coz they’re playing, and then having to deal with the rubbish scores they dished up.
Thanks for the tip ..I already had Davies, I’ll check Jeffrey out.

Russty_

Yeah why not ay?…although guys like Stringer I’ll avoid…. Riccardi looked good last year in his 5 games, Sturt looks a good player, unlucky to get injured when he did, I just feel like I need at least 2 rock solid forwards in there to hold it all together, could make for pretty low scores if there’s 3 or 4 midpriced cheapies in there and they all dud it the same week.
I might start Daniher if he looks strong in pre-season, Brown’s pretty good too when he’s confident.

David

Rucks averages final 5 rounds 2020

  1. Gawn 137.6
  2. NicNat 116.2
  3. ROB 111.6
  4. Grundy 108.6
  5. Stanley 105.4

Rucks averages final 10 rounds played 2020 (not finals)

  • Gawn 137.8
  • NicNat 119.2
  • Grundy 113.9
  • Rob 95.3
  • Stanley 76.3

Nicnat is 55k cheaper than Grundy but NicNat averaged 6pts p/game more than Grundy for most of 2020

demonsdelight

Spotted that and a better bye. Grundy worries me with his new midfield The 50k helps get me a better mid rookie but N N ‘s TOG is a bit of a worrythey may give BJ more time

David

I think that the reduced TOG may have been part of his recuperation strategy for the 2018 knee injury. Remember that he only played 3 games in 2019 (rnds 15,16,17) and hurt his ankle in 17.
Considering that his 2020 ave was his career 2nd highest and it was on the back of very low game time and he ave 119 over his final 10 games of 2020 on low game time, if you start 2 prem rucks the 2nd should be NicNat

Russty_

Agree, Nicnat’s numbers were insane last season, goes to show what he can do when he stays fit, thinking of starting him over Preuss.

demonsdelight

yep got him in for Grundy ,better bye

David

Hey dd what is Oskar Bakers likely role for 2021?
Ranga Queenslanders are usually as hard as a macadamia shell and/or really really good at running away.
I heard a whisper that the ‘really really good at running’ quality could be exploited on a wing by the Dees?

demonsdelight

Definitely a running role since they missed Smith HAS 2 main opposition Harmes and Hunt and is in front.Tomlinson now a defensive role and KOLO retired but surely Oscar is not s/c relevant

Russty_

How many expensive rookies are you starting this season?
There’s Ugle Hagan, Mcdonald, Phillips, Powell, Grainger Barass, L.Young, Campbell, Pedlar..probably a few others, from memory they rarely pay off barring a select few.
I’m thinking of starting only Phillips as my one expensive rookie..is he the best option?
P.S, is anyone starting Ben Cunnington even though he looks like he’s 45 years old?

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David

At the moment I have Young and Pedlar keeping an eye on ruck/fwd Campbell, Phillips and McDonald.
Cunnington is good value bad risk

demonsdelight

Thilthorpe for mine even though big blokes rarely play much .The crows will give him games to learn off ROB .Phillips is the obvious one though Gator looks younger than Cunningham,good pick upmate

David

I had a look at Tilthorpe. It’s a plus that he’s played a few games of senior footy but like you say the big kids don’t often play much early on. Keiren Strachan might get a shot and he’s a bit cheaper, bigger and older. From Crows website “A developing ruckman hailing from South Bendigo, Strachan won back-to-back best and fairest awards, playing six games over two years at VFL level.”
He played for Port Melbourne & Essendon in the VFL but he didn’t win 2 B&F from only 6 games, he won B&F at south bendigo.
Adelaide gave him a 1-year contract extension so I think that they’ll give him every opportunity to prove himself as a tall forward which where they play him in Sanfl 

gator59

I feel and look younger at the moment, But I’m doing an Owner Build and ageing very quickly

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Russty_

Just check everything for plum and level mate and make sure they do your insulation right…no corner cutting.

gator59

Will do Russty, Man the LVL’s For Bearers and Joists are F#$%^&G Heavy

gator59

Cheers mate

Russty_

I’m presently having to redo my entire underfloor foil and ceiling batt insulation cause the dodgemaster who did it didn’t seal it all up properly, nightmare job but at least I’m past the halfway mark lol

Russty_

Yeah not fun mate…it’s a pole home so I’ve been on my back in the dirt for the last few days, gettin up close and personal with the local spider population lol

Colin Tebble

Haha.. lol

Colin Tebble

I am doing all under floor and ceiling insulation and it will be done correctly, No short cuts will be taken Russty

gator59

Yes i will age, but saints won’t slide

Russty_

Go Saints this year Gat!…I have high hopes for the boys this season.

Colin Tebble

Yes, Same expectations here too Russty

Tibor

i had plenty to say this time last year when Petracca was a mid pricer and copped some ridicule. How did that play out?.. Price now daunting but surprising to see little interest. He will be even better this year and be the undisputed best player in the comp by the end of the season. Feel free to tip the bucket but I’ve heard it all last year.

Russty_

Any hot tips for this season Tibor?…nice job with Petracca last season 🙂

Tibor

Be a little wary of Max Gawn from a fantasy point of view. If Melbourne start to look ok this year everything will really hinge on Gawn. They will want to manage his game time a bit and they will start to give Luke Jackson more time to develop him. Also having Ben Brown means Weideman will do more Fwd ruck work. If They look ok expect them to manage Gawn through the season so he is at his best late.
a bit negative I know if I have a positive tip I’ll let you know

Russty_

Cheers Tibor thanks for the info, I’m almost too afraid to not start Gawn, last year I ended the season without him and had major Gawn-envy

Kevin Schuller

In urgent need of some rectification please. I’m not in favour of this team but I really don’t know why. Could some one please help.

J.Lloyd. R.Laird. l.Whitfield. L. Ash. L.Jones. D. Granger-Barass bench. H.Chapman. J. Jeffrey

L. Neale C. Oliver. T. Mitchell. S . Walsh. M. Rowell. J. Hartley. W. Phillips. T. Bruhn
Bench. B.Cook. J. Carroll. R. McInnis

N. Naitanui. B. Preuss Bench. J. Tracy

J. Dunkley. R. Marshall. B. Brown. J. Impey
J. Ugle-Ha. L. McDonald bench. F. McRae
B. Coleman

For the balance of this team I couldn’t find place for Gawn and Grundy. Not sure whether that’s the right strategy or not? Any thoughts please

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Russty_

Hi Kev, pretty solid choices in your backline with your 1st 3, have you considered Cumming or Milera rather than Ash? I reckon 3 premos and a breakout might be a good strategy this year. Midfield’s also solid choices, pretty ballsy going with neither of the big 2 in the ruck, how much cash you have left over?
I’d be too afraid to not start one of the G’s because it can be so hard to get them in during the year.
I know there’s plenty of value on offer in the forward line this year but that’s definitely your weakest line, could be a problem if those blokes don’t fire, also not sure about Dunkley this year, the fact that he requested a trade out of the Dogs and he’s still there says to me his heart might not really be in it and he’s just making the best of it until he gets his out.
Guys I’m considering are Hogan,Tom Phillips, Ziebell, Greene’s fairly cheap…Cameron’s scores could improve at the Cats but not sure how he’ll go working with Hawkins.
I’m keeping an eye on Jye Caldwell and Jake Riccardi in the preseason also.
Your side’s fine mate, you’ll probably change it 75 times in the next 2 months anyhoo lol

Kevin Schuller

Thanks guys. I think I’m getting cold feet about the 2 Gs. I think I’m going to get them in
With the result my team will look different.

Russty_

I think Preuss is actually a good bet Kev, Preuss with one of the G’s, at least then you only have to get one in.

David

It’s only early Kevin but thats a good start.
TMitch had a shoulder reco and is doubtful for round 1
2 Spots open in Giants defense and Ash should get one of them but I think Cumming gets the higher scoring role
Brown and impey have never been high scorers in SC and will not increase quickly in price better off with Ziebell for that money or a rookie
Ugle-Hagan is too expensive for the role that he’ll have.
Logan-McDonald could be anything if he improves at the same rate that he improved in 2020 but if he’s only scoring 50’s in pre-season I’d swap him for cheaper
Have a look at the bombers for some cheapies, most of their talent has fled and a few of the kids and VFL players could be up for early debuts. Also at Bombers, if the Vacuum can get over his ‘peptide foot’ he’s a bargain at 320k

Russty_

Speaking of team reveals, here’s what my version 2 looks like for now, any comments critical or otherwise appreciated.
Ryan, Laird, Williams, Witherden, Milera, Laurie – Highmore, Jeffrey
Neale, Petracca, Danger, Cripps, Rowell, Powell, Cockatoo, McInnes – Caroll, Rioli, Davies
Gawn, Preuss, Treacy
Sidebum, Bolton, Heeney, Phillips, Rowe, Bowey – Macrae, Jones
No Lloyd means I can bat 5 deep in defence, I don’t mind that but Lloyd can be very hard to get in during the year. Hoping Bolton will improve his scoring this year and that Phillips goes back to his wing role with the Hawks…not sure how having Ryder and McKernan in the side affects Marshall yet so I might wait and see on that one., cheers.

David

I think I liked version 1 better Russty.
I prefer the deep proven backline with speculative cheap fwd line.
Like you say Lloyd is too hard to get if you don’t start him and his scores are often too big to counter. but instead of a guy who ave 120 you choose 2 stepping stones who MIGHT ave 95. Late night decision?
Sidebum is very interesting and he may also replace Marshall in my team because the high minutes runners are going to be gold with less interchange, conversely those with lesser endurance may suffer.
After saying that I think “Doesn’t that mean that Marshall is more likely to rest forward than on the bench?” so, maybe I’ll have both Marshall & Sidebum.
Who is Laurie?
Is phillips a keeper with a career high SC ave of 90?
Bowey? I agree Melbourne is rubbish outside of the centre square but 1 other place where they do have a couple of potential footballers is small fwd. I think bowey will neeed to kick goals in consecutive VFL games before he gets a look in at Melbourne. How many Melbourne draftees have debuted round 1 this century?

David

I tried posting this as a new comment but the censors keep filtering out
Shorter quarters and less interchange = Gaff & Walsh pick themselves
I hope that I can find 13 keepers out of this lot
This team is already under serious review. I want sidebottom fwd but I want to keep heeney. I only have $400 left.
Def
Lloyd-Stewart-McDonald
Williams-Jones-Gould (Jeffrey,Foley)
Mid
Neale-Oliver-Gaff-Walsh
Cripps-Rowell-Phillips-Davies (Macrae,Connolly,Durdin)
Ruck
Gawn-Preuss (Treacy)
FWD
Marshall-Heeney-Ziebell
Daniher-Cocky-Rowe (Henry,Jones)

Russty_

I’d be tempted to forget the Mcdonald idea and maybe go with Witherden if you want Sidey, Mcdonald’s never averaged more than 95 and that was last year, he could further improve but it’s still a bit of a crapshoot. I took your advice and stuck to my first draft cause it just looks more solid with more dependable players there.
Gaff has never exceeded 108 and ain’t exactly the greatest value at 570k, I reckon either go for the uber premo or the possible big improver for the cheaper price, aka Tim Kelly, Cripps this year but you said earlier that you thought Cripps would decline this season…so interested in what changed your mind about him?

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David

Thanks mate I didn’t realise that I was going backwards.
It’s the 118 that McDonald ave in the final 10 games as a half back L/Y and the 144 ceiling that has me excited add to the the affirmation that he’ll continue playing that role in the ‘New Roos’ and he looms as a must have.
Gaff is a dopey speculative inclusion that I can not justify or mount a lucid argument for so he’ll be omitted in a couple of minutes.
Cripps is just a bit of ‘swimming with the flock/flying with the herd’ I’ve read the arguments for him but I’m not convinced that he’ll be a 110+ player in 2021 so he could easily become Sidey if he doesn’t monster the trial games.

Russty_

Oh yeah I see what you mean about McDonald, could be a nice pod this year if he keeps it up. With Cripps, I’ve also got him there for now but he needs to show that his shoulder is 100% for me otherwise he’s gone for Walsh or maybe T.Kelly

Russty_

Hi Dave yeah I think I like version one better also, it’s all just to see how it looks though for now, if I get too optimistic I tend to go a bit speculative happy lol, I’ll probably start Marshall but his scoring was reduced last season because of Ryder, I think he could’ve averaged 115 or more if not for Paddy, Sir Nick Riewoldt reckons Marshall should be pure lone ruck so he really make the role his own. Yeah not sure about any rookies yet obviously, will need to see how they handle the preseason games, every year’s a new year in these times mate, who knows who’ll get a start yet.
Phillips could average 90+ easy I reckon if he gets the wing role, he’s only 24 and was relegated to a fwd role last season. I see what you mean though, the more riskier players you start with, the more chance you have of having a horrible start to the season..and then ‘the trying to fix all the mistakes’ weeks.

Jess

Caldwell to average 95-100 this year. If he had decent TOG last year, he would have scored 71 average. If playing in Essendon midfield, i predict a 30 odd point increase. Ridley improved by 35 points last year, without the low TOG the year prior. Caldwell is at that awkward price, but I’ll be taking the gamble on him, expecting him to be 150-200k underpriced. Not much more in price than ziebell, so if he is playing mid he is in with bells on

David

Hi Jess, I don’t share your dreams for Caldwell. I remember numerous other GWS mids moving to other clubs for more opportunity and only 1 of them improving their SC output significantly. A bloke called Dylan Shiel was supposedly going to be an Uba-premo at Bombers but he only ave what he did at GWS another bloke called Devon Smith also supposedly going to be must have FWD when he left GWS for Essendon but also produced a very ordinary result for supercoaches.
Caldwell couldn’t get a regular gig at GWS because he wasn’t good enough to get a regular gig at GWS. The move to Essendon will improve his opportunity but it wont suddenly increase his ability. He has competition for a position in the team and I don’t see which midfield encumbent he will usurp; Merrett, McGrath, Shiel, Parish, Smith, Heppell ? plus he will have to share time with the new draftees and perrenial also-ran Langford.
I Don’t see any potential for much over an 80ave from Jye and he’s almost 100k more expensive than Ziebell who will do that 24/7

David

Shorter quarters and less interchange = Gaff & Walsh pick themselves
I hope that I can find 13 keepers out of this lot
This team is already under serious review. I want sidebum fwd but I want to keep heeney. I only have $400 left.
Def
Lloyd-Stewart-McDonald
Williams-Jones-Gould (Jeffrey,Foley)
Mid
Neale-Oliver-Gaff-Walsh
Cripps-Rowell-Phillips-Davies (Macrae,Connolly,Durdin)
Ruck
Gawn-Preuss (Treacy)
FWD
Marshall-Heeney-Ziebell
Daniher-Cocky-Rowe (Henry,Jones)

David

Other than identifying potential offshore administration/development what does “Awaiting for approval” mean?
My team
Shorter quarters and less interchange = Gaff & Walsh pick themselves
I hope that I can find 13 keepers out of this lot
This team is already under serious review. I want sidebum fwd but I want to keep heeney. I only have $400 left.
Def
Lloyd-Stewart-McDonald
Williams-Jones-Gould (Jeffrey,Foley)
Mid
Neale-Oliver-Gaff-Walsh
Cripps-Rowell-Phillips-Davies (Macrae,Connolly,Durdin)
Ruck
Gawn-Preuss (Treacy)
FWD
Marshall-Heeney-Ziebell
Daniher-Cocky-Rowe (Henry,Jones)

Lekdog

I actually think it doesn’t like your ip address David, do you use a VPN?

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Jim Sykes

Hey guys.
I’m looking at my M2 to M5 of Walsh, Cripps, Rowell and Taranto and I get the feeling that I’m one uber premium short.
But then I look at the top end of town for mids and see 3 Bulldogs and 2 Demons in the top 8.
Does this bother anyone else risk wise?
I have Lachie at 1 and I don’t particular trust a repeat year by Steele.
Cheers.

Whitey

Taylor Adams looks good to me, no Treloar and was pretty consistent last year. Also like the back end of Matt Crouch’s year, with his brother gone, he may even get more ball.