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2021 AFL SC Team Picker

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Christmas has come early for the Jock Reynolds community, with Azza delivering the mother of all presents…


The AFL SuperCoach 2021 Team Picker!



In the spreadsheet linked below, you’ll find basic stats from 2020, as well as helpful breakdowns including a bye planner to help you start your SuperCoach pre-season planning.

Now, if you too are feeling generous, you can buy Azza a coffee/beer as a thank you via the link below.


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Deane Aderson

cant seem to activate spreadsheet I thought this was meant to be a free service???

David

I will wait for sc to open before I start to finalise my team but at the moment I’ll probably have the following foundation players
Defenders: Lloyd,Wlliams,Whitfield – D4&5 will probably come from Howe, Witherden, Cumming, Aliir. Howe is with hope of full recovery and discount, Cumming is a very good footballer and will get a lot more opportunity in 2021 if he can stay fit, Aliir is an absolute freak and I expect that his ave will increase by 20pts at Port and Witherden has been identified as a kicking replacement for Hurn so his numbers could also increase. Due to commentator hype I had a look at Wietering for these slots but he pumped out 4 sub 50’s in 2020 including a 0 and all but 1 of them was against an average player.

Midfield: Neale, Oliver, Adams, Walsh – Too many ? about departures and new arrivals for me to consider any dogs, saints, Bombers, Giants as mid keepers, at this stage.

Rucks: Max, Pruess, TDK if ruck/fwd

Forward: Most indecisive line for me this year I’m expecting Danger and Dusty to be a combined 150k cheaper after rnd 7 so I’ll wait for them.
I like a few KPP’s in 2021 King, McKay, Dixon. I also want to find room for Heeney and Butters so hopefully they’ll both be DPP and I can start them in the middle. I have absolutely no idea.

Russty_

Heeney and Butters are fwd only this year David, Witherden will be interesting to watch this year..he could kick butt at the Eagles or maybe not, Cumming and Alir ,not for me but Lloyd Williams Whitfield and Howe are super solid.
I was considering Walsh as well but what if he only averages 100, Cripps is cheaper but bloody frustrating to own lol, if he’s over his injury, could score well again this season.

David

Fwd line might be based on how much $ I have left after the rest. At least until March anyway.
I’m hoping that Aliir will be given the Wonder Hoff role from hoffs boom year. that role appeared to be ‘Run around, get some kicks, take some marks, lay some tackles, get a few hit-outs and kick a goal or two’. Hoff was very hard to match up and Aliir is even harder.
Cumming would have played a lot more in 2020 if it were not for injury and I think that he is the obvious choice to fill any opening in thegiants backline, certainly more likely than a draftee. He has proven ability to score well off half back for SC and if he’s under 300k I reckon he’s worth looking at.
I think Walsh will benefit from Williams + Saad inclusions and continued growth from setterfield and the other mids at Carlton. Walsh reads the play really well and gets himself into good positions to receive and carry the ball as much as any other mid playing. I’m confident that he will be significantly better in 2020 based on team changes and natural growth.
Cripps is the only Carlton mid that I see stagnating. He scores really well when he carries the ball but each new agile mature body in the middle and his total lack of pace will probably see him more as the distributor and less as the carrier. imo

Dean Billman

Cripps is a weapon and can’t be underestimated. He could go off for 130 this year if not injured and is pretty cheap. Williams for more midfield time? What’s Doc’s role this year I wonder?

David

I don’t underestimate Cripps Dean. He’s a gun a player and one of the best at what he does but, last year he ave 9 less disposals than 2018 and 2017 and only had 1 game with more than 29 disposals and in SC his ave dropped by 26 and he only scored more than 123 once but the team moved forwards. Cripps’ form didn’t drop in 2020 the form of his team improved and other players were able to do their job better meaning Cripps had to do less.
Based on natural growth in the Carlton team and Cripps having a positive response to his surgeries he should increase his average above last years 91 and might even get it up to 105 but he wont be a top 10 mid in SC. imo

demonsdelight

any love for TRACCA russty?

David

Has to be considered but for me he will be a rnd 3 inclusion if he’s firing. Unless his pre season form is the same as his 2020 form

Russty_

Yeah Neil he’s in my starting squad so far..hoping he’s permanently turned the corner of premo-ness 🙂

demonsdelight

no love for Ben Brown? Comes in at rookie pricing with a better ruck and mid set up to deliver it Laird with his dpp looks very relevant

David

I hadn’t even looked at Brown dd. I always felt that the positive media he received was 85% Brayshaw hype and 15% Browns ability. How expensive is he?
Who does he put out of the Melbourne team?

demonsdelight

brown is 260 macdonald will be on notice Jackson and WEEDS look secure enough. Brown could easily snag 50 so could be a great cash cow like Ziebell

MRB

If Brown gets 50, well make the 8. not convinced by our mob tho.

David

Melbourne would be nuts to reduce opportunities for Jackson and Weideman just to give brown a go. Hopefully they just keep him for an emergency

demonsdelight

A 3 tall attack is their plan unlike last year where it was Fritsch Choco has identified kicking and height as their archillies in covid year.Weeds and Tmac will fight out that CHF role with Brown out of the square Brown will benefit from Tracca Oliver and Viney’s feed more that just an emergency but a Coleman chance NDD

David

lol

Russty_

Thanks for this Azza, I actually still have my HS subscription because I forgot to cancel it lol…bloody Team Pickers, I’ve already changed my team 250 times and it’s doing my head in haha
This is an early draft I’m not too unhappy with…
Lloyd Laird Howe Williams Wehr Laurie -Gould Highmore
Neale Petracca Merrett Mitchell Rowell Powell Downie Davies – Valente Durdin Bowey
Gawn Preuss – Treacy
Dunkley Marshall Heeney Ziebell Cockatoo Rowe – Macrae McCreery
44k left over

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demonsdelight

Pruesse is interesting Russty,though not great when forward… For his price he comes in well as a stepping stone/cash cow. Similar forwards to mine .Lloyd and Laird look solid but i am opting for Milera at D3 should be over his foot problem and enables me to keep Grundy at a cost of Williams bring it on BBL mate is rubbish

Russty_

Oh yeah Milera could have a good year, he’s starting to score pretty well..I might consider, Witherden could have a year too, I’ll be watching him in the pre-season, yeah hoping Preuss doesn’t turn into another Jacobs/Naismith/Pittonet situation like last year..I wasted too many trades on that debacle lol.
No time for the BBL this year for me mate, that guy who scored the 96 the other night was stiff to miss out on the ton ay? How are you ranking so far?
You sure you wanna pass on Williams mate?…he could be a cheap lock for this season.

demonsdelight

BBL around 2k but just dont like it and it interferes with AFL research You know what i am like i really put time into it No draft for me or BBL next year Leagues are fun but rank is my aim. It is hard to go past Laird with the dpp i am starting him in the mids with 4 uber defenders Sort of out of Green and Milera to partner Butters as my two breakouts AND you have to look at TRACCA EVEN AT THE EXPENSE OF STEELE bring it on mate happy new year to you and family cheers Neil

Russty_

Same to you and yours mate, hey what about Hately?..he’s sposed to step straight into Brad Crouch’s role at the Crows.
It’s tough choosing midpriced players, they rarely work out and ya wanna dump their ass pretty soon after they start failing lol.
I think my team looked better before I added a few more of them in there.
I was considering Butters, he looks a top young player, better than Rozee as it turns out.

David

That does look pretty good Russty 4 prems on every line and probably 15 keepers. Contract year for Merrett could see him put his head over the ball a bit more often and increase his SC output. I’d swap Laird for whitfield because Laird just doesn’t look like a real human

Russty_

Cheers Dave, just a draft running some names around, I’ve already changed it around 100 times since then haha, I’ve never started Merrett before but I finished with him last season and he went ok..ended up with a 115 ave.
I read somewhere Laird is possibly gonna be more midfield this season, Whitfield is good but not sure how much mid-time he gets this year and his average dropped 7 points last year, not sure if that was cause of covid or the new crop of younger blokes getting the time, I’d like to start Ridley too…and Ryan lol

David

Whitfields reduction was mostly due to the round 3 injury score of 8 Russty. Take that out and his ave was 110.6 which is basically the same as his 2019 ave. His last 6 games ave was 115.5.
In reality that equates to an increase because of the 16 minutes quarters in 2020. I am not aware of any changes to the Giants list that could reduce the amount of midfield time. What is his DPP status for 2021?

Russty_

Oh yeah the 8 I forgot about that, he’s just listed as a defender this year.

demonsdelight

Hope that was tongue in cheek with Laird David Defence is too good to ignore and forwards aside from that great man Marshall a wait and see. I will start with Marshall at F1 and than all specs. butters Ziebell brown all will play and be cash cows They are all starters in their club’s best 22 who may score ok Enjoy your comments Obviously know your footy NDD

Derek

Hi Fellas. First look at SC. Hard to find any fallen premiums. Heeney, Toby & Buddy in forwards, but not much else.

Big Boy has DPP and reasonable price. Could be an ok D4/F3.

First thought is to start Grundy ahead of Max, $100k gap is not real. Pruess at F2 as steppingstone to Max.

demonsdelight

welcome back Derek Thought the same that’s why i punted for the 4 best mids 4 best def and 2 best rucks .Set and forget. Forwards are full of fallen midpricers ,if you like, Brown ZIEBELL Franklin are 3 NDD

David

Grundy may drop a few HTA with the new pies midfield crew Derek

Russty_

Hey Derek good to see you mate, I think Williams and Crippa might qualify with their reduced prices.
Do you know much about Denver Grainger Barass?…he looks like a decent defender from his highlight package, how likely is it do you think he might start round 1?…cheers.

David

I understand the importance of defense dd and I have started Laird for the past 3 years. Last year I saw a big change in his role early and traded him out.
With all of the covid hoohaa I didn’t realise that the reason for his role change was injured and Lairds scores began to look a bit better. That being said, 8 of his 17 scores last year were below 100 (5 below 90, 3 below 80). He went 120+ 5 times, 130+ once
I currently choose whitfield. Including injury 8 he had 6 scores below 100 (4 below 90, 1below 80. Last year he went 120+ 5 times and 130+ 3 times.
The following was also influential in my decision
Even though Laird increased his SC ave by 8 pts in 2020 to 105 he actually averaged 4 less kicks and 2 less handballs p/game in 2020 than in 2019. His only stats increase was in tackles where he doubled from 2 to 4. His ave was boosted by a massive 5 points by his career high 185 v Pies.
It is also worth noting that last year when Milera played, Laird ave 80 with similar stats to his other games last year.
In those games
Milera ave 8.5k, 6.5hb, 3.5mk, 1tkle, 0/0.5FK and 83 SC
Laird ave 11k, 8.5hb, 2mk, 2.5tkle, 1.5/1FK, and 80 SC (year ave 11k, 12hb, 3mk, 4tkle, 1/1FK 105 SC)
Read into that whatever you can

Derek

Locked in;
Lloyd, Whitfield, Howe
Neale, Oliver, Mitchell, Rowell
Grundy
Heeney

Probable list;
Laird, Gould
JKelly, MCrouch
Preuss
Marshall, Greene

Interesting ones;
Robertson
BCrouch, Cripps, Walsh
Buddy, Ziebell, Impy, Cockatoo

Russty_

Some nice info there David, I’m re-considering starting Laird now.

Derek

There is extra midfield time available because BCrouch left.

Laird had his best year in 2020, did he over achieve?

Lloyd and Whitfield are must haves and Howe not far behind. A 4th expensive defender is hard to justify.

David

Laird only had his best SC year because Milera got injured. He didn’t over achieve, he had lower stats than the previous year, he had a single great game that increased his ave by 5
Crows have added Hately from the Giants plus Pedlar and Berry who are both ‘ready to go’ midfielders. The addition of a couple of forwards will also enable players like Chayce Jones to play more midfield.
When Adelaide say that Laird will get more midfield time they mean that his role at HBF will include territory up to the HFF on his side of the ground. It does not mean that he will attend CB’s or throw ins and roam both sides of the ground (see 2020). Milera will either play a similar role to Laird on the other HBF or play as a defensive winger.
Laird is not a midfielder

Derek

I have started with Laird for a few years now, have not been unhappy. His price is a bit steep for me this year

Ian

I can open the link, but unable to edit. Any help much appreciated.

David

I can’t help you Ian because it wont work for me either.
I think that this year if you buy SC gold/whatever its called you get instant access to their team picker. If Australia continue to suck at playing the European game against India I’ll probably invest the $20 and claim it as a cost for Australian Cultural research

Russty_

Poor ole Joe Burns will be applying for jobkeeper by the next test, yep this team picker ain’t too functional at the moment, I have the H.S one at $25 per year..(they thought they’d raise their price by $5 for their same, not so great service.

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David

Yep nuthin can save him now unless he’s from NSW in which case he should be good for another couple of test series.
I paid the $25 and got the picker
FWD line is currently Marshall-Butters-McKay-Franklin-Ziebel-Daniher (Rowe-Spicer)
Have a look at the Luke Parks video on carlton website. The guy starred last year in Sanfl for Glenelg and looks really good, only 102k
Another 1 at the blues who has a great video is J Carroll. He was monstering it in a Wafl colts team until a wrist injury ended his season. Carlton still play a few spuds through their midfield with guys like Kennedy, Fisher, Dowe, O’brien, Cunningham all getting regular goes at it, Carroll looks better than all of them

demonsdelight

like that forward line mine is close Marshall Butters Ziebell BROWN 2 rooks

Russty_

Interesting forward line David..risk factor is a bit too high for mine but should save you some serious money if they score ok, I’m gonna try and be a bit more conservative this season, opposing my method of the last few years with going with 2 or more midpricers to start. Reckon I might go with one this year (plus Preuss),either Cumming, Milera or Hately depending on pre-season form.
That being said, my team will probably change another 185 times before March.

David

I’ve already changed it a dozen times. Looks like I’ll be starting with 11 keepers and a couple of long shots.

Russty_

There’ll be plenty of injuries, and good form / bad form players in the pre-season yet for us to decide on. Plenty of guys we were thinking of starting won’t perform in the pre-season and some guys no one thought of will and that’ll be that lol…locking your starting keepers is important though cause it can be damn hard to get full premo if you’re chopping and changing keepers early on.
I didn’t even get close to full premo last season.

David

Has anybody had contact with Triggahappy who ran the finals comp? I never saw the final scores posted and I haven’t seen any comments from him.

Russty_

Haven’t seen him around for awhile Dave, I was wondering about those final scores also, a bit anti-climactic not to see who got the choccies, maybe he’s sunning himself on a beach somewhere.

demonsdelight

he ‘s in mt league at BBL doing ok too

Derek

This my second year of BBL. played about 5 years ago. Now I remember why I don’t like it. The double game weeks are hard to track. The scores are wild. Too big of a difference between a good score and a crap (says me who had C on Short the two times he failed.

Wouldn’t mind if it was like AFL and they had 3300 points to allocate per game

Russty_

I only played it the one year 2 years ago and I found it stressful, also back then I didn’t own 6 acres and have to be constantly working on it lol.

demonsdelight

Just too many things can go wrong Doesn’t reward research . A good double game selection can be easily rested on the 2nd game or the x factor bit Rain a bad ball in the opening over by a bit spinner gets short out .gone but 2 50 metre s against oliver in the first minutes is not the end ..not for me only a quarter resigned this year says it all even this site is only half keen

David

This is my starting structure only 11 definite keepers but I’m hoping that 2 of Franklin, Ziebell, Milera, Cumming will become keepers and a few of the rookies will play 12+ games.
Lloyd-Whitfield-Williams (Milera,Cumming,Jones,Parks,Jeffrey)
Neale-Oliver-Merrett-Danger-Mitchell (Phillips,Pedlar,Cockatoo,Davies,Carroll,Berry)
Gawn (Preuss,Treacy)
Marshall-Butters (Franklin,Ziebell,Macrae,McDonald,Henry,Rowe)

Russty_

Buddy and Ziebell are definite keepers if they stay on the track..Milera could average 95+ this year, rookies always underperform in the end barring a select few like Rowell and Walsh, the less the better onfield I reckon.
Nice effort Dave, why Phillips over Powell…is he much better?

David

“On performance, Phillips was comparable during the finals series last year to 2019 first round choices Noah Anderson, Caleb Serong and Sam Flanders. For the same age, Phillips also performed just as well as Matt Rowell and Noah Anderson. Phillips is a round one ready midfielder who combines strong contested ball winning capabilities with a burst of speed and is likely to be the one of this year’s draft class to have the most instant impact”
Chris Doerre

dontblushbaby

I don’t see J.Hately name mentioned much ?
Will slot straight into the Crows midfield , however I don’t think can I have both Rowell & Hately ?

David

Hately only 310k is a genuine bargain, both he and Sloane are good value. Sloane ave dropped 15pts to 88 (his worst since his 2nd season) off the back of a few games with early injuries including a fractured hand that put him out for 5 weeks.
Sloane is 24k cheaper than Rowell

David

Sloane v Rowell is a dumb compare. Rowell had an ave of 142 after his first 3 games I don’t think that anybody can compare to that.

Derek

Sloane could be classified a ‘fallen premium’ not many of them and worth a thought

Russty_

Don’t see why you couldn’t have Rowell and Hately DBB… Rowell’s a ready made premo with his obsessive work ethic and skill, not sure if Hately’s anywhere near the same level, he hasn’t really done enough imo to warrant that price.

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Barry Pope

me either kim

Lekdog

Currently in my side!

Ian Witt

The AFL has made the Rucks very difficult. The best 3 Rucks + the best DPP Ruck all have their byes in the same round. Gawn, Grundy, O’Brien & Marshall.

Russty_

As long as you can field 18 Ian, that’s all that matters. It’s the decent 3 week bye average you wanna aim for.

Ian Witt

Yep and if you have zero Rucks that round, makes it hard to field 18

Derek

Forward Line.

Danger is $611k. My first thoughts are he is getting a bit old and past his best. $611k is a lot to pay.

But when I look at what else there is in the Uber premium FWD’s he does stand out.

I probably won’t start with him, Dusty or Dunkley and see how the season starts. Dusty usually has a few off games and can get cheaper. Dunkley and the Bulldogs are a wait and see.

Marshall is a lock because of his DPP.

Heeney is a bargain and one of my first picked

Toby Greene might like no Cameron, and is priced well under what he could do. Not a fan, but he can play footy.

Buddy I can’t have. Will probably get injured before season starts and will struggle to play half the games.

Ziebel I don’t mind. Way under priced and should play an important role for the club.

Impy is rookie priced and in the Hawks best 22. I’ll take a 70 from him each week rather than a 30 from a rookie

Cockatoo I want him to play and do good.

demonsdelight

You forgot the next coleman medallist BEN BROWN that’s B-R-O-W-N might as well get used to saying it Derek you will hear plenty from him ,Watch his tapes and only 260 k Aside from last year he narrowly missed the 3 previous colemans on the last round Cameron and REIWOLDT both kicked 8 or 9. and with better delivery rom Tracca Clarry and Viney he will score plenty Dont miss out NDD

Derek

What was the problem with him last year. Was his leg buggered?

I prefer Brown ahead of Daniher.

The forward line have a few decent players at way unders. Can add Hogan to list.

Even if we test them like expensive rookies, getting 60’s and 70’s from them are better than what a rookie might dish up

Russty_

I’d like to see Hogan show some kind of consistency before I considered him, Ziebell should score ok if he stays fit and Brown is one of the best kicks for goal in the AFL, not sure what hs problem was last year, only played 9 rounds and his last few scores were shinola so he was probably injured.
Before that in the first few rounds he was averaging 80 odd.

demonsdelight

The family was super distraught with his twin’s death Russty but he is a must have mate mothballed very early by Shaw when the season was shot with 12 injuries then Brown and wanting a 4th year ,just too much for them with Larkin ready to take over

demonsdelight

It really was a year to forget for Brown The unfortunate death of his baby twin,contract hassles and a minor knee injury against Geelong mothballed him He had very minor surgury and was running 5 k’s daily when Shaw said it was risky to bring him back Completely ok now but 60 goals 3 years running says something Larkin and Z?????? were early on earmarked for his key role suggesting Shaw wanted him out He will be a handfull at 200cm with a huge reach and radar kicking A must have at a bargain rookie price

gator59

Good luck with BROWN, He’s a BIG NO for me

gator59

What’s been his last 3 years average? Even when he was kicking goals he wasn’t SC relevant.. Never been anywhere SC Premo, So what’s all the hoo haa about all of a sudden.. I’ll just sit back and reap the rewards of Zorko, Greene, Heeney , Marshall, Dunkley, Danger, Martin, Walters ,Sidebottom, Hawkins, Buddy etc

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demonsdelight

Thought you would feed he chooks a bit of crap eh NO WONDER you follow the Saints I will enlighten you in a non hillbilly dialect ben brown never missed a game for 5 years to 2020, he was no 1 for time on ground averaged 3 goals a game 2017 2018 2019 and 2 before that was averaging 80 supercoach points in the early part of 2020 before his season was lost Now even you would admit never misses a game always on the ground ,3 goals a game surely adds up to more than a snotted nosed stkilda recruit and that’s where he is priced at 260k DOESN’T need much more than 80 to be a solid cash cow not a keeper or prem as you say I have a very good book i can give you that you would find helpful knowing your footy by M jackson.. written in a easy to understand dialect you will learn plenty Now put the gumboots on and go for a run and make F4 B B CHEERS NEIL

gator59

Still a big NO from me,, I’d rather gamble on a good rookie before BB and that’s coming from a Saints supporter that hasn’t seen glory since ’66 and not like a Demon that hasn’t seen one since ’64 and as for Billings, Well even Jesus Christ could beat him so no comparison there either.. Sorry I don’t have gumboots either, I’m to poor and can’t afford them

demonsdelight

Last year Gat you absolutely convinced me Long was a super star He stayed in my team most of the year crapping up but i must admit you certainly have one in HIGHMORE .that kid’s highlights are really something,problem is will he get a def role. Sure to be an old pair of Cliffy’s somewhere

gator59

Cliffy has a Gold pair sitting in the local Historical Society Centre, But I don’t think they’ll give them to me .. Agreed Highmore does looks a real talent .. I just don’t know if they’ll play him in the season proper.. Long will surprise us at some stage

Derek

i will have a look at Brown. He won’t be a keeper so therefore he needs to be a cashcow. At $260k he is a very expensive rookie price and can’t see him making enough cash to justify.

On the other hand, having rookies onfield that score 30 every week is hard to take.

I’m more interested in Ziebel at the same price as Brown or Impey for $50k cheaper

demonsdelight

Forgot to give you his averages when he was on the ground playing every game kicking 3 goals every game LAST 4 YEARS SANS 2020 76-77-83-80 around Billings score , when he has made 200k i will trade him to Dunkley

David

I 100% agree with you Gator Brown is SC irrelevant. He used to get a high volume of pin point delivery from the Kangas midfield of higgins, ziebell cunnington but he still wasn’t SC relevant. Demons mids are amongst the worst kickers of a footy in AFL so Brown wont get the gold service he was used to at Kangas and will stuggle to ave over 1.5 goals p/game.
He also regularly puts in total spud performances at least 25% of the time.
2016 – 39,50,36,54,35,36 season ave 76
2017 – 51,59,47,45,12,32 season ave 77
2018 – 21,30,45,58,58,61 season ave 83
2019 – 52,32,39,44,48,45 season ave 80
2020 – 0,17,29,36,39,71 season ave 48
There are a LOT of much better forward prospects in 2021 than Broken Ben

David

To demonstrate the point about Melbournes midfield butchering the ball when compared to Nth Melbourne here are some de% and clanger stats for the past 2 seasons. These stats demonstrate that Brown will not have as good delivery into the fwd line at Demons as he had at the Roos.
2020 DE% and ranking

  • Oliver 70.84 ranked 253
  • Petracca 65.75 ranked 388
  • Viney 65.1 ranked 405
  • Higgins 75.5 ranked 130
  • LDU 71.7 ranked 219
  • Ziebell 61.9 ranked 462
  • Cunnington not enough games

2019 DE%

  • Viney 70.8 ranked 285
  • Oliver 68.7 ranked 355
  • Petracca 68.7 ranked 356
  • Cunnington 77.3 ranked 119
  • Higgins 74.6 ranked 177
  • Ziebell 63.6 ranked 473

Clanger p/game 2020-2019

  • Oliver 4.0 – 5.0
  • Petracca 3.5 – 2.9
  • Viney 3.4 – 3.2
  • Higgins 2.6 – 3.5
  • Ziebell 1.7 – 3.4
  • Cunnington 0.0 – 2.8
  • LDU 3.3 – 1.9

Sorry dd Brown isn’t the miracle that Melbourne are looking for to solve their scoring dilemma. He was ordinary in a high de% low clanger team and I suspect that he will be even more ordinary in a low de% high clanger count team.

demonsdelight

Sadly you both miss the point David Brown is simply another rookie and yes will spud up just like RANKINE did many times almost half his were spud scores Brown will play all year all minutes unlike MOST ROOKIES last year I only had 2 out of 16 starting rookies,Rivers and Budarick who i hought were ok Check out their spud scores ,much worse than Browns who let’s face it 50 and 60 ‘s dont count as poor rookie scores Brown as a rookie in 2017,18 and 19 was really ok when you eliminate those scores for instance 2018 he had 3 poor scores out of 22 12% NOT 25 % so that’s that theory put to bed The second was his poor feed melbourne will be far better kicking wise under choco and brown is such a good lead he will make Clarry look good. Tracca is already a good kick as are Salem and Rivers It will improve significantly 2021. In 2018 when the dees made the prelim Tmac booted 53 goals in a season when clangers were a lot lower 2021 under Royal’s coaching that will return he is renown as an astute kicking coach. i am tipping both you and Gator will be wrong and BROWN will be a good rookie selection one of my first selections dd

Derek

i have fears of having onfield rookies scoring 30’s and missing games, so anyone who is rookie priced who plays every game and can score ok will be welcomed.
crunching some numbers, Brown needs to average 66 to justify his starting price imo, even then he won’t make much more than $80k cash.
I think Brown could average 70 to start the season. that will be a reasonable return on investment and make a bit of cash.

At the moment i have Ziebel and Impey ahead of Brown, i won’t be starting all 3, but we will see how the pre-season goes.

demonsdelight

yes agree Derek only two of the three are needed. I plan on as full guns n rookies as possible .It is no coincidence that last year I started with 9 ubers and finished with 9 and 2019 was even better 10 . players around the premo mark just didn;t cut it .We called them break out players i had 5 high midpricers to low premos all failed The odds on one succeeding is slim remember DOC HOUSTON and Mcpherson .This years crop could be better with Williams Luggage and Walsh all cosidered but at this stage I have 4 top def plus my only risk MILERA 4 top mids best two rucks and best two forwards. Definitely looking at BUTTERS AND WLLIAMS but to me they represent two more Houstons. Players like NEALE WHITFIELD LLOYD DANGER and oliver to name a few are all in there now it becomes a rookie search You are correct about Brown and as i only had 2 decent rooks last year ,Buderik and Rivers ,,neither of whom were great THEN Ziebel AND Brown are in Good luck this year mate I lost 5 grannies and 300 pts last year waiting for SHAKE to change his VC CHOICE NOT KNOWING HE COULDN’T It was too late when I got back in and got stuck with Draper and Doc on the bench One of those grannies was you , 2 more to Shake and a classic at SCT Yours was by twenty pts Fyfe was my in for Doc I actually had him locked in 10 mins to go waiting on Shake Lesson learnt mate cheers NDD

Derek

all good advice mate. im not taking much notice of last year, we had far too many trades and i became trade happy. This year it is all about reliability for me. Not looking at Zac Williams.
i some how managed to win 5 leagues last year. 3 against Shake, one against you and one against One Touch Wonder, wasn’t really a winning score, but will take them.