2020 Hindsight: Round 6

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We’ve hopefully left the worst the season has to offer behind us, community. The last two weeks have been rough. Premium injuries and suspensions are coming thick and fast now, whilst rookies are getting dropped like hot scones. With the competition starting feature teams on four and five day breaks more regularly, get ready for more carnage ahead!

The Top

Lachie Neale (134) was a popular VC choice, and he didn’t disappoint with 26 touches and a goal, despite scoring 20 points below his ridiculous average. Dayne Zorko (119) had his first really good game of the year, but even then he was quiet after half time. Sam Menegola (152) was superb for the Cats, with 26 touches at 92% efficiency, as well as 2 goals. Pat Dangerfield (146) had 24 touches himself, while Joel Selwood (143) completed the Geelong’s engine room with 20 touches and eight tackles. Tom Hawkins (120) kicked three goals from his 15 touches.

Adam Treloar (122) played his second game for the season and had 35 disposals at 65% efficiency. Despite his injury concerns, Treloar is a great selection. With shorter quarters and a shorter season, it may be a good year to look at him. Brody Mihocek (110) kicked four goals against the Hawks, while Taylor Adams (104) continued his strong start to the year with 22 touches. James Sicily (132) bounced back with 28 touches and 14 marks, while Tom Mitchell (122) had 33 touches and seven marks in the loss.

#BrayshawBreakout ??? Andrew Brayshaw (122) managed 89% TOG, and with Fyfe resting forward the entire second half, Andy put the team on his back with 20 disposals. Rory Lobb (117) had 16 hit outs and a goal as the number one ruck, while Michael Walters (107) had 26 disposals as a midfielder. Callum Wilkie (119) had a good game with 18 touches in the back half, while Zak Jones (104) had 15 touches and two goals.

Tim Kelly (140) finally turned up in Eagles colours, collecting 24 touches for his new side. Jeremy McGovern (122) was intercepting every awful Adelaide entry, finishing with 17 touches and 12 marks. Brodie Smith (124) finished with 31 touches and a goal from half back, while Matt Crouch (123) had 29 disposals himself.

Max Gawn (153) had 15 disposals, eight marks and 30 hit outs in the matchup against Witts. Jack Viney (123) had 21 disposals and eight tackles in a bounce back game for him, while Touk Miller (142) was Gold Coast’s best with 23 touches. Hugh Greenwood (126) had 18 touches and 12 tackles himself.

Andrew McGrath (120) had 25 touches in the middle for the Bombers, going at 84%. Jordan Ridley (111) has continued his great start to the year with 18 touches at 83%, while Todd Goldstein (129) took advantage of Andrew Phillips and finished with 19 touches and 30 hit outs. Jy Simpkin (127) is dominating when Cunnington is out, finishing with 23 touches and six tackles.

Nick Haynes (113) was his usual self down back for the Giants, collecting 23 disposals and eight marks. Lachie Whitfield (111) was on 31 at half time but came home like a house on fire, finishing with 25 touches and a goal. Dan Houston (109) has come good the last two weeks, right after everyone traded him. He had 22 touches and played on half back and in the guts. Scott Lycett (108) had 21 hit outs and 11 touches against Shane Mumford.

Jack Martin (116) kicked two goals from his 13 touches in Carlton’s big win over the Bulldogs. Ed Curnow (115) did a good job tagging Marcus Bontempelli (116) in the first half, then Bailey Smith (119) in the second half. Bailey had 87 at half time, but couldn’t replicate that with Curnow following him around. He finished with 26 disposals and a goal, while Bont had 22 touches and a goal. Jack Macrae (138) had his first big game of the year, with 26 disposals, and received no attention from taggers, which allowed him to collect plenty of late game pill.

Callum Mills (173) had 29 disposals in a huge game off the half back flank, whilst Jake Lloyd (102) had a good, but not Mills-level game with 24 touches. Jayden Short (118) had 26 touches as the primary rebounder with Houli out of the side. Kamdyn McIntosh (121) had 24 disposals on the wing for the Tigers.

The Flop

Mitch Duncan (13) was a popular selection after 5 scores between 114 and 123 to start the year. Unfortunately, he only managed three touches in 6% game time before straining his hamstring. There’s rumours that he is pushing to play this week, but I’d imagine he’ll miss. Quinton Narkle (5) went off the ground at the same time as Duncan, and will miss with a more significant injury. Brandon Starcevich (31) has hit the rookie wall it seems, just managing 8 touches from 67% TOG, while Hugh McCluggage (74) copped a stinger on the shoulder and spent some time on the bench. He eventually returned to the field but only had 10 disposals.

Chad Wingard (34) had 10 touches at 40% efficiency, which is not the sort of output we expect from him after such a strong start to the year. Jon Ceglar (43) wasn’t much better with 9 touches and 9 hit outs as the number one ruck, while Brayden Maynard (89) was lucky to finish on his score after a first half of zero influence.

As expected, Nat Fyfe (84) played out of the goalsquare in the second half, and whilst he had 18 touches and two goals, 15 and one of those were in the first half as a midfielder. Brad Hill (31) is struggling to find enough of the ball, managing just 11 touches at 63%, while Ben Long (70) will miss 3-4 weeks for his hit on Darcy.

Rory Sloane (76) and Rory Laird (76) have been underwhelming to start the season, and that trend continued with 18 and 17 disposals respectively. Shannon Hurn (39) has looked out of place for the Eagles, and I feel like he’s now past it. Andrew Gaff (67) is starting to concern owners with how easy it is to tag him out of the game. He had just 12 touches and minimal influence.

Darcy MacPherson (34) is a player we got wrong in the preseason. He had 4 touches, at 50% efficiency, and is not playing in the guts. Hopefully you dished him already. Brayden Fiorini (40) came in for his third game of the year for Rowell, but he didn’t do anything that would ensure him of a spot next week. Angus Brayshaw (44) isn’t as good as his brother, finishing with 12 touches at 41%.

Zach Merrett (68) was quiet in his first game back, finishing with 18 touches. Devon Smith (68) had more of it, with 23 disposals, but went at 52%, while Dylan Shiel (74) has been suspended two weeks for his hit on Curtis Taylor.

Travis Boak (70) was tagged pretty effectively, finishing with just 16 disposals, while Connor Rozee (54) has done nothing to suggest he’s the best player from the 2018 draft class (hint, it’s Rankine!!!) Josh Kelly (92) was sitting pretty on 60 at half time and was looking good at a big score, but a very quiet second half saw him fall short of the ton, while Tom Green (42) disappointed owners with just 8 touches.

Sam Docherty (47) was very quiet in the win, with just 13 touches at 53%. I’m not sure if he was being tagged, but it just wasn’t his night. Pat Cripps (56) hurt his shoulder early but played out the game, finishing with 13 disposals as well.

Dustin Martin (66) has been a disappointment this year so far, and Sunday he collected just 15 disposals and one goal. Josh Kennedy (18) looks like he’s done his MCL, fingers cross it’s nothing worse than that, whilst Isaac Heeney (86) copped a head knock from Pickett. He had 16 disposals as the key forward for the Swans.


Brandan Parfitt (79) has been a much discussed POD in the forward line but he didn’t get on the ground enough to have a massive impact, with just 62% TOG despite two early injuries. He had 19 disposals and a goal, which was promising. Tom Berry (23) only had seven touches at 42% efficiency, which really hindered his scoring.

Rupert Wills (108) had 19 touches and five marks for Collingwood, while Jack Crisp (91) went at an efficienct 93% from his 15 disposals.

Hunter Clark (61) managed 18 touches but didn’t have much influence on the game, while Max King (61) could’ve had a huge score if he kicked straight; 1.3 for the young forward. Luke Ryan (105) had 14 touches off half back, but went at 92% efficiency, which is why his score is over the 100.

Elliot Yeo (105) cracked the ton, and for someone priced under $500k, he’s a bloody good option. He had 21 touches and 5 tackles, but look to see that number increase as they return back to Perth. Tom Doedee (105) had 20 touches and 11 marks in the back half for the Crows. With plenty of opposition forward 50 entries, he’s got his hands full trying to intercept everything. Ned McHenry (64) is starting to get used to the pace of the AFL now, collecting just 10 touches but going at 80% efficiency.

Harley Bennell (54) started well, but didn’t score much between half time and the last 10 seconds, where he kicked his first goal for Melbourne. He had 13 touches, but played 78% TOG, which is very promising. Jack Lukosius (106) is playing some good footy down back for the Suns. He had 18 touches at 88% efficiency off the back line.

David Zaharakis (126) turned back the clock with 20 touches and 3 goals. For someone who has almost been dropped the last few weeks, he’s earned himself a reprieve. Darcy Parish (88) started very well, on 63 at half time, but his flame burned out after that. Jack Mahony (45) had just 10 touches and three tackles, while Kyron Hayden (46) had just 6.

Jeremy Cameron (119) hasn’t done much yet this year, but 2 goals from 15 touches is a good start. Jacob Hopper (103) played well in the midfield, collecting 22 touches with 16 contested. Kane Farrell (112) had one goal from his 19 touches, but missed two shots at goal as well.

Tom Liberatore (120) had 22 touches in the midfield for the Dogs, and helped out Macrae, Smith and Bont well. Lachie Hunter (108) played his first game since his bumper car experiment, while Marc Pittonet (75) fell short of his breakeven by 1 point. He had 33 hit outs against English, but he’ll start to leak cash soon, unless he eclipses his new breakeven of 96.

Robbie Fox (107) was a late in for Aliir Aliir, and had 13 disposals at 92%, while Ivan Soldo (117) had 21 hit outs against Hayden McLean. Jake Aarts (28) was a popular selection after his score last week, but he would’ve disappointed plenty with just 6 touches.

First Dates

Sam Simpson (112) played his first game since the back half of 2018, and took advantage of Geelong’s injury woes. Despite only attending one centre bounce, he still managed 27 touches and five tackles. I doubt he plays like this every week, but he should feature heavily for Geelong now they’ve potentially lost two midfielders.

Both the Magpies and Hawks blooded two debutants each, and whilst Josh Morris (26) had next to no influence on the result, the same can’t be said about Will Day (92). He was one of Hawthorn’s better players, finishing with 16 disposals at 81%. Atu Bosenvulagi (55) had 16 touches in his first game, but Will Kelly (36) is done for the season after dislocating his elbow.

Andrew McPherson (76) was good in his first game despite just having 9 disposals. He took 5 marks as well, and looked relatively capable down back. Nicks has already said he likes him in the best 22, so hopefully he can feature a few more times.

Izak Rankine (111) had a debut to remember. He had just 12 touches, but kicked 3.3 and seemed like he was going to create something every time he was near it. He probably had two Goal of the Week nominations, and his second goal could be a goal of the year option too.

Not a first game, but Louis Butler (53) had 16 disposals in his second game, and looked pretty good. I don’t know if he holds his spot, but was nice to see him doing well out there.

Chad Warner (38) and Dylan Stephens (52) both debuted for the Swans, with 8 and 11 disposals respectively for the two recruits. Stephens may hold his spot, Warner less likely, but there are better options on the bubble this week.

How’d we all go this week, Community? Who are you thinking of getting rid of?

Categories: Supercoach


Jordan · 13/07/2020 at 13:25

Another tough week- only managed 1850 🙁
Once again couldn't wait to crack in my trades. After building up a war chest of $470 k in the bank, so far I've decided to boost my backline by upgrading Noble to Sicily and downgrade T Brown to Simpson leaving $336 for a big upgrade next week.

Following week, we be looking to strengthen my weakest line being the mids by possibly upgrading Dev Smith or Noah Anderson to a premium and downgrading Budarick or McInerney all depending on how they score….

    Russty_ · 13/07/2020 at 14:30

    Sounds good Jordan, one week at a time mate, my week this week, is now dealing with the loss of Heeney…and Long, and maybe Taylor (that good news may come later today).

FearTheBeard · 13/07/2020 at 13:34

Doedee or B Smith

Simpson or Rankine in this week or do we pull the trigger on both and miss a in this week?

    FearTheBeard · 13/07/2020 at 13:35

    or this Day for Hawks ok?

      Jess · 13/07/2020 at 14:40

      I'm getting both Simpson and Rankine and are ranked top 800. Its the right choice long term and for cash generation

        Soothsayer · 13/07/2020 at 20:12

        I have to replace Duncan and Heaney but will be benching them to trade down injured rookies to Simpson Rankine and if I had an extra trade, Day.

          Russty_ · 13/07/2020 at 21:57

          Heeney's gone for the year, I'd offload him before some injured rookie worth less money…Duncan might be back this week.

    Russty_ · 13/07/2020 at 14:49

    Hey Beardy, Rankine in for me definitely, Simpson might not last too long me thinks, Coach also mentioned, there's "quite a few" like Sam waiting in the wings for their shot.

      dontblushbaby · 13/07/2020 at 16:36

      With Duncan injured should help Simpsons chances to keep his spot

        Russty_ · 13/07/2020 at 17:27

        Don't think he'll be out for long dbb, was only slight pain and precautionary getting him off the ground.

Mikee · 13/07/2020 at 14:28

Great review as usual <img src="https://tinyurl.com/yxbbsslm&quot; width="1"/><img src="https://tinyurl.com/wwct4y8&quot; width="1"/>

    Russty_ · 13/07/2020 at 14:31

    Great review of the review as usual Mikee 🙂

      Lekdog · 14/07/2020 at 09:28

      Great review of the review of the review Russty

Russty_ · 13/07/2020 at 14:28

Heeney is out for the rest of the season with a dislocated ankle and medial ligament rupture.

DEESNUTSRBIG · 13/07/2020 at 16:18

More bloody carnage for me – Sloane out for 6 with a fractured hand (thumb) and Heeney done for the year.

    Russty_ · 13/07/2020 at 17:26

    I'm feeling that pain also Dees, Heeney, Long and maybe Taylor all in the one week.

MagicGnome97 · 13/07/2020 at 17:02

Rankine is a lock for me, but not sure who to get out of Simpson, Day and McPherson. I reckon Simpson, only because my midfield I've had to field dud rookies too often. Brown, Budarick and Starcevich I've each had to field once in the last 2 weeks.

backline is docherty haynes ridley laird doedee s.hill (noble brander)

midfield is neale fyfe t.mitchell macrae cripps d.smith pickett starcevich (bennell rivers mcinerney)

problem is i already have tons of cash in the bank, doing these trades (starcevich > rankine and noble > simpson) leaves me 570k spare. i suppose i can get gawn next week with that cash. or bailey smith perhaps. or walters. or 2 of those options but depending on how day and mcPherson do…

    Tofa · 13/07/2020 at 17:30

    it's a weird problem to have isn't it? I'm the same, got $250 in the bank and looking to do similar trades.

    I hate to have money sitting there but I can't justify trading anybody that's scoring ok with so many donuts around.

    your team looks good Gnomey

      MagicGnome97 · 13/07/2020 at 18:21

      Thanks. My overall rank is about 5,500th.

      grundy pittonet (cameron) as my rucks and simpkin dusty whitfield c.taylor m.king rankine (aarts georgiades) as my forward line if i do those 2 trades.

      starcevich, taylor and aarts (why oh why did i think aarts would outscore budarick's 52 haha) killed my score last week. docherty, laird, fyfe, cripps, devon smith and dusty were all pretty poor too.

      Still managed to get 1955 though which is kinda okay. Key in the short term is to get rid of all the donuts and dud rookie scores from the starting 22. having 28s and 31s and 15s is shocking for the score.

      Fyfe only scored underwhelmingly because he spent half his match up forward as he returned from a hamstring injury so theres no bad blood there. docherty as well is allowed to have 1 bad week, same goes for cripps. Laird and Dustin Martin's scoring have both been very concerning, as has devon smith, even though he was only a midpricer.

      But there are bigger priorities. 1. Clearing the dud rookies from my starting team. 2. Getting in the superb rookies from the last weekend (4 standouts). 3. Going Pittonet &gt; Gawn when I can.

      gonna have to just hope laird and dusty start to find some form again, and devon smith too.

      bailey smith looks like a must trade in next week. and walters could bottom out in price as well.

      its painful having over 500k in the bank, but at least i'm building up a massive WARCHEST!

        derek · 13/07/2020 at 18:58

        I'm torn a bit this year on rookies. They are not good, but i can't not help thinking a warm body is better than a cold lifeless rookie.

        If Starcevich is named this week, i think i'll keep him, same with Budarick. Need to get rid of Mcinerney, Rivers, brown, taylor, brander if they don't play.

        i know they are their to make cash, but if they arn't playing they won't make any cash, they could play and score 100 and cash rolls in again.

          WithAllDueRespect · 13/07/2020 at 19:45

          Bailey SMITH plus Rankine for me with that amount of cash left over. Get rid of the rookies. Taylor and Green out for me. Take out SMITH's concussed 3 and ave is 109. At 435k he is a steal and DPP.

            Derek · 13/07/2020 at 20:14

            Can you wait another week for Smith?

              WithAllDueRespect · 14/07/2020 at 10:41

              I can Derek but have finally hit my straps claiming wins and climbing rankings so thinking why not? BE 132 so i understand your question. Cats man and even though Simpson did well, there was a reason he was out of the side for so long. Constable, Steven and Stephens to get games so security not there in my opinion. Thoughts?

                TRIGGA_HAPPY · 14/07/2020 at 20:31

                Being cats man have you considered menegola?

                Flying.at the moment

                  WithAllDueRespect · 15/07/2020 at 17:44

                  Fair point Trigga I hadn't no..

            MagicGnome97 · 13/07/2020 at 23:06

            If you can wait another week you'll probably be able to get Bailey Smith for 10-15k cheaper. He is a steal the way he is scoring.

              Russty_ · 13/07/2020 at 23:28

              Yeah you could wait till he's 10k cheaper but you could also miss out on 30 or 40 extra points.

                WithAllDueRespect · 14/07/2020 at 10:42

                My thoughts too Russty as well as above points I raised.

                MagicGnome97 · 14/07/2020 at 13:18

                True. But you could maybe get Simpson or Day instead and not miss out on huge money there potentially. Short term pain for long term gain?

                  WithAllDueRespect · 14/07/2020 at 14:25

                  Yep I could. Plenty to think about definitely…

          MagicGnome97 · 13/07/2020 at 23:10

          I reckon McInerney and Taylor will play. Same goes for Starc and Budarick. But Starc is likely to plummet in price this week. I mean it depends how it affects your starting 22, but if you're doing it with bench players I'd rather trade someone who will plummet over someone who isn't playing (depends if its just for a week or two or for the forseeable future). eg. Brander has missed the last 2 games but he still has money to make and should play when hes fit. If they are someone who has just about reached their price ceiling though then theres no reason to not trade them out.

    Russty_ · 13/07/2020 at 21:49

    I wish I had a million bucks in the bank to replace every shit kicking spud in my fwd line, believe me, too much money isn't a problem if you use it when you need to get the big guns into your squad.

Mick · 13/07/2020 at 18:12

Hi community I need help please.
I have Sloane.
Thinking of Yeo, Kelly or even one of the Crouch brothers?
Any other suggestions?

    Russty_ · 13/07/2020 at 20:04

    Bazlenka?…or Yeo I reckon mate, he's a solid 105 ish ave when he's playing well, with the occasional big score, Bailey Smith is a talent though, he's shining at the moment

derek · 13/07/2020 at 18:52

How is everyone's team value?

Top 20 teams have an average team value (doesn't include the cash in the bank) of $12.2m

Compare that to the teams between 500 – 520 the average is $11.7m

there is a clear correlation between team value and rank/score. In years gone by i didn't worry too much early on as alot of the front runners would run out of trades very early. this year holding trades ins't as important, but i think team value is.

I've been chasing points pretty hard this year and used 100% of trades avaliable, currently ranked 507 (team value $11.64m with $191k in bank)

If you are going for League victory this year. Building value will be extra important. A $12.5m team won't stand a chase in finals against a $13.5m team.

    TOPHAWK1 · 13/07/2020 at 19:12

    Hi Derek. My team value is sitting at $11.3 million with 100K in the bank. After a very slow start this year, my team is building nicely. After round one my rank was 110K. Worst first round for me ever. My rank has progressively moved in the right direction since. Now ranked at 35K. (up another 6000 places this week with my 1952 score) I have been very disciplined with my trading this season. (Managed to save one trade along the way so far) Secured Gawn this week which saved my bacon as I ran him as captain as well. Hopefully, I can come home with a wet sail from here. Hoping to get inside the top 1000 before season's end. It can be done. Also, you are not getting Callum Mills in draft mate!! You can keep Hurn. LOL Cheers, TH

      Russty_ · 13/07/2020 at 22:04

      You're very optimistic mate, I feel like my season is in the shitter without a wetsuit and I'm 32000, we probs have different circumstances though, I've been treading water dealing with injuries, suspensions and spuds, and my team isn't really advancing with the premo to spud ratio, yet I'm using trades up every week.
      Think I'm already beyond the point of being able to field a full premo side, at this stage it's just the best I can get together, it's all a bit of fun though. LOL

        JohnDJ59 · 14/07/2020 at 01:27

        You just described my season so far Russty, not being able to do the trades you want/need to because we are too busy trying to fill in the holes created by injuries and dropped rookies. For Derek my team value is 11,751,400. My rank went from 5,151 to 12,199 this week due to my worst score since the byes of 2018.

    Choppers · 13/07/2020 at 19:22

    Hey Derek,
    My mob is ranked at 42 and team value is $12,197,000 and I have $194k in the bank.
    I brought in Duncan last round instead of Maxy, only for him to score 13, so aim to bring Gawn in this week, which should help.

    MagicGnome97 · 13/07/2020 at 23:15

    After my trades this week my team value is $11.615m, but with 570k in the bank. I'm about rank 5,500. I could've been chasing points more but have prioritised the long term – I'm not bringing in players when they're at peak price like Gawn. I'm trying to get good deals. Gotta spend some of that money in the bank next week though.

      Pman · 14/07/2020 at 00:02

      Pre trades this week my team currently sits at $11.771M with $247K in the bank which will increase to $500K + when I double downgrade this week and currently ranking circa 8300. Have Heeney but will put him on the bench this week and turn him into Bailey Smith next week and Pittonet to Gawn hopefully.

        MagicGnome97 · 14/07/2020 at 13:27

        Trading in Bailey Smith and Gawn next week is exactly what I'm planning to do as well.

    The Ranger · 14/07/2020 at 08:07

    Hey Derek, I'm also burning thru trades this year as I see the opportunity to do so with fewer consequences.
    Team value is at 11.9 and ranked 1514. And I'm choosing to put the cash on the field as much as possible.

Bells · 13/07/2020 at 18:54

Thinking Hawks may as well play Day in a developing team.
What is Goldie's BE? Can I wait a week to get him in as I want Day to cover a potential donut, and Rankine.

    Choppers · 13/07/2020 at 21:38

    Goldy is 134BE,,,,,,,,,,

    Russty_ · 13/07/2020 at 21:52

    If Day was only covering for Burgoyne's rest then there's no room for a skinny kid in there.

Holty01 · 13/07/2020 at 19:09

Awesome write up again Matty

Soothsayer · 13/07/2020 at 20:19

Thank you Matty and thanks community for the great discussion. What do you think, Day or Simpson?

    Russty_ · 13/07/2020 at 21:20

    Not sure on either, I thought Day only came in because they rested Burgoyne and Simpson might get Narkle's spot, think Duncan will be back soon, I'd go Simpson over Day I guess, Day looks 14 years old and skinny.

      NDD · 13/07/2020 at 22:10

      I read preseason that they wanted to give Day a red hot go ,looks good .I think Day over Simmo

    Pman · 13/07/2020 at 21:31

    My worry with Hay is that Clarko doesn't usually give his Rookies extended runs and am leaning towards McPherson at Adelaide who scored 76 on debit and Nicks has indicated he will keep playing him so probably better JS and $30K cheaper. As much as I would like Simpson I can't pass up on Izak Rankine who looked electric and whilst he wont score a 100 every week we know he has a high ceiling.

    Lekdog · 14/07/2020 at 15:35

    Day I think…

Ralph · 13/07/2020 at 20:47

Don't know anything about the Hawks or Crows other than that they're sorta trash. Just wondering who has better JS out of Day and McPherson? Will definitely be getting one of them just curious what supports know about each. Cheers 🙂

    BrownlowBoy · 14/07/2020 at 10:06

    Adelaide coach really likes McPherson. However he has an injury history.

    Impey, Burgoyne and Scimshaw to come back you'd think into the Hawks side which makes me wonder about Day's job security.

    However Hawthorn are nuffies with their team, their defence is way too tall.

      Ralph · 14/07/2020 at 11:45

      Cheers BB, might stick with McPherson in that case pending selections.

Soothsayer · 13/07/2020 at 21:57

Surely the hawks have to back in some young kids. Day looked to do some good moving and the hawks backline is full of old slow giants. I hate the 100+ debut scores- you never know what comes in round two. I wish we had the three game bubble back. It doesn’t help at all to go up in value after one look.

    Russty_ · 13/07/2020 at 22:05

    Yeah the other game's worse..Fantasy, they go up 50 or 60k before you even know who the hell they are.

Soothsayer · 13/07/2020 at 22:01

How stupid is it to be waiting for Rozee to hit 120 before I trade him. I swear he had 55 at half time and then just watched the rest of the game.

    Saundo · 14/07/2020 at 12:27

    I’ve got him and will stick with him, dropped to much in price now

DEESNUTSRBIG · 13/07/2020 at 23:41

How much does Will Day weigh now?

Hawthorn 2019 AFL Draft Report
PICK 13: Will Day (187cm, 70kg) Lightly built medium defender who showed strength and speed for South Australia in the 2019 NAB AFL Under-18 Championships averaging 18.8 disposals with 82 per cent efficiency and five marks. Progressing to Reserves level, he has been impressive with West Adelaide averaging 17.3 disposals in three matches. Day is a skilful rebounding defender who boasts all-round athleticism. The youngster has been praised throughout the year for his footy smarts.

JugHead · 14/07/2020 at 08:23

Question. Did all the Vic clubs take their full lists to the hubs?
I'm assuming they did, but I don't want to hold a non playing rookie, hoping he gets named in a week or two, and then find out he has been left in Melb.

    Lekdog · 14/07/2020 at 09:30

    They didn't all take the full list!

    WithAllDueRespect · 14/07/2020 at 10:45

    Geelong did not sure anybody else did though.

    JugHead · 15/07/2020 at 10:21

    Thanks guys. Not sure how to find out who got left behind. I hope it doesnt bite us.

      Russty_ · 15/07/2020 at 10:46

      Try going on the club's individual website Jugs, not sure but maybe the info is there.

Jorg Ancrath · 14/07/2020 at 09:19

My team is so full of spuds. Should set myself as a supplier to the local chip shop. Tho they probably would touch any of my fetid bunch. #SCdepressed

DavidC · 14/07/2020 at 09:36

Cogs place in the best 22 is at risk apparently. Might be dropped/managed for those that still have him.

    Jorg Ancrath · 14/07/2020 at 10:37

    Given he's captain and they need a win, I'd be very surprised.

      WithAllDueRespect · 14/07/2020 at 10:47

      Kick in the arse he needs hopefully – this talk is strategic generated by Giants media department surely?

      Ralph · 14/07/2020 at 11:47

      I'd be surprised too Jorg, they've not been letting him do what he does best in running through the midfield instead playing him at full forward. Of course he's not having an impact, the mans a mid!!

        The Ranger · 14/07/2020 at 12:23

        Spot on Ralph. Get him in the guts!

    Lekdog · 14/07/2020 at 15:35

    They should try playing him in the midfield

BrownlowBoy · 14/07/2020 at 09:46

What rookies are we trading this week?

Starc is a huge yes to trading this week.

Blokes like McInerny, Rivers, King, Noble, Bennel, Pickett, McHenry, Brander all still have cash to make, however some of them aren't playing,

I'm holding Budarick. Warm body, DPP will be required if the season gets compressed and less days between games as players will be rested.

Not the best year for me so far. Team value at $11,696,000 and ranked 13k.

Season summary goes trading Bont -> Dunk who then got injured -> Sidebottom who then got suspended -> Bont who then scored 55.

    MagicGnome97 · 14/07/2020 at 13:21

    RIP those trades in the last sentence.

FearTheBeard · 14/07/2020 at 11:22

Doedee or B Smith or Short or do I spend the cash and get Haynes or Maynard or Lloyd? I just can't decide 🙁

    WithAllDueRespect · 14/07/2020 at 11:26


      FearTheBeard · 14/07/2020 at 11:46

      Yep. Your right 🙂

      Gone Haynes & Rankine this week.

      Smith for dogs next week and will let B Smith & Doedee & Short convince me for another slot.

    Ralph · 14/07/2020 at 11:49

    Gotta spend the money FTB. I was big on Doedee at the start of the year before he got injured during preseason, brought him in when he got his first game and hes been decent but my lord is he a roller coaster. Can't go wrong with Haynes or Lloyd in my opinion, Crisp or Ridley also options if you don't have them.

    cogs94 · 14/07/2020 at 11:55

    Depends what your plans are over the next few rounds. Doedee will earn you some quick easy cash for an upgrade down the line – like Dan Butler, I don't see him as a keeper though. I would wait for him to top out and trade him out. With a BE of 1 he is likely to earn a decent amount of cash in the next few weeks.

    If you plan to keep any of these players long term, I would go for Lloyd myself. I have Haynes and don't have Lloyd in my team, but I got Haynes when he was significantly less expensive. Now they are about the same price, I would go Lloyd for his historical consistency as a 110 point player.

Binga · 14/07/2020 at 11:57

My thoughts for this week Starcevich to McPherson and Brown to Rankine via DPP?

Cheers Binga

gator59 · 14/07/2020 at 13:46

Does anyone know anything about Brander from West Coast.. Is he still injured or are they just not paying him

    Choppers · 14/07/2020 at 13:55

    He was listed as a maybe prior to Rd6 (hip problem) but didn't get up obviously.

    He's now listed as a TEST.

      gator59 · 14/07/2020 at 14:11

      Thanks for that Choppers.. Keep up your good ranking mate

    Bells · 14/07/2020 at 14:39

    Thanks for asking was looking for info on him without luck.
    Allen has done well up forward. Darling back in form.
    Is there any room for him down back?
    Think I'll cut my winnings short on him this week.

Shake n bake · 14/07/2020 at 16:54

Fyfe good chance to miss this weekend

    Russty_ · 14/07/2020 at 21:44

    In hindsight he probably should've taken last week off by the looks.

Shake n bake · 14/07/2020 at 16:55

Ward to miss up to 6 weeks

    NDD · 14/07/2020 at 17:14

    Cogs will have more mid time now. surely

      Shake n bake · 14/07/2020 at 17:42

      Toranto back who knows

TOPHAWK1 · 14/07/2020 at 18:28

Ben Long has copped three weeks for that hit on Darcy. Paddy Cripps has been cleared to play this week. Any news on Mc Cluggage?

    Russty_ · 14/07/2020 at 18:38

    Hey TH, AFL site says Lions are confident he'll play after the 9 day break.
    3 weeks for Long great, that's him and Heeney for me this week.

      TOPHAWK1 · 14/07/2020 at 19:41

      Beautiful Russty. Thanks for the intel mate. De Boer will tag him and test that shoulder regardless when playing GWS. He will drop a turd, but at least he is on the field and playing. The suitcase is a dead set gun. TH

        Russty_ · 14/07/2020 at 21:43

        Yeah he seems to be after a slowish start, I very nearly started with him too, he does look a dead set gun now, nice to save a trade there Hawk, wish I would've started with Grundy and gawn now, wasted valuable trades on Jacobs, Naismith and Pittonet and now Pittonet's getting robbed of cd points., English looks great now but haha not gunna do it, it's Gawn or bust now.

Russty_ · 14/07/2020 at 18:42

Who to Captain this week if Grundy underscores and Neale's copping the De Boer tag?… maybe only Macrae for me.

    NDD · 14/07/2020 at 20:04

    Hey Russty with Long and Heeney out how do your trades look I am thinking Rank and Doedee

      Russty_ · 14/07/2020 at 21:40

      I got Doedee last week mate, this week Rankine and Bazlenka Smith I'm thinking, gives me a cool 500k to spend next week.

        TOPHAWK1 · 14/07/2020 at 21:57

        I am getting Rankine too. No brainer. He is a jet. I have Doedee too. He is an honest, tough, and hard working footballer. Can you get Callum Mills first instead of Bailey Smith? TH

          Russty_ · 14/07/2020 at 22:05

          Not really TH cause I have zero backup fwd, only Budarick in the mids and Rivers in def, not sure if I trust Mills tbh to be a keeper, he could be but history says otherwise.
          My season is so screwed already, there's hardly even a point trying to save it, quite funny actually, was ranked 500 after round 1 haha

TRIGGA_HAPPY · 14/07/2020 at 20:46

If you think the first 6 weeks were tough that is just the entree.

Now things really get interesting.
More games closer together, players being rested between rounds, probability of more injuries and rookie jettisoning in and out of teams each week.

Whoever wins this season will well and truly earn it and will fall on the good side of luck …

I think try to get good coverage and hang on for dear life!

It's is gonna be one hell of a bumpy.ride.

    Russty_ · 14/07/2020 at 21:52

    After week one, this season has been like getting dragged backwards by the feet through feral rose bushes for 2.5 km only to come out the other side and land in a pile of freshly deposited sewerage only to be sucked down a huge shitty pipe leading to a cess pit in the bowels of hell where Demons store all their dead bodies so they can snack on them at their leisure…and that's only the first 6 weeks. 🙂

      NDD · 14/07/2020 at 22:17

      Not the Demons I hope

        Russty_ · 15/07/2020 at 10:35

        Not your blokes Neil, unless their new hub is the bowels of hell?…lol

      TRIGGA_HAPPY · 14/07/2020 at 22:38

      Weren't you right up the pointy end Rd 1 rust?

        gator59 · 14/07/2020 at 22:54

        Russty was 500 after round 1 Trigga

      MagicGnome97 · 15/07/2020 at 01:03

      Woah. Took me on a real story there. Pictured the entire thing very vividly haha.

    TOPHAWK1 · 14/07/2020 at 22:02

    I love it!

Pman · 14/07/2020 at 22:11

I have Grundy too but will most likely put the VC on Danger for Thursday night who has averaged 130 his last 3 games, don't have Macrae but he would be a good option as last weekend showed.

    gator59 · 14/07/2020 at 22:52

    Meant to be very wet in Perth on thursday night Pman

      Pman · 15/07/2020 at 18:15

      Thanks for heads up will have a re-think, that said Danger is generally good in the wet.

Derek · 14/07/2020 at 22:54

Looking at painting fence this week, can only get one of Rankine or Simpson.

I’m liking the look of Simpson. Rankine won’t kick 3 goals every week.

    Choppers · 14/07/2020 at 23:51

    Nup, reckon you're right, Derek…….probably kick 4……lol!

    Sorry, couldn't help myself.

    I tossed up between Simpson and Rankine as well, but went the other way. Like them both but think Rankine has better JS while Simpson has Chris Scott as a coach/selector,

      Derek · 15/07/2020 at 01:38

      Why did it take until round 6 for Rankine to get a game?

        Derek · 15/07/2020 at 01:40

        I’m still waiting for the Suns wheels to fall off. Loss to Melb might have been the start

        Russty_ · 15/07/2020 at 10:37

        Pretty sure they were nursing his injury cautiously Derek, getting ready to unleash him, I remember watching his old junior highlights and he always did things like he did on the weekend, he's a talent.

    The Ranger · 15/07/2020 at 14:42

    Rankine for mine.
    Mitch Duncan is listed as a "Test" this week so you'd think he'd be back this week or next, does Simpson hold his spot?
    If Rankine stays fit he's in their best 22 and with that 111 it shouldn't take him long to make some decent cash.

      The Ranger · 15/07/2020 at 14:47

      And Stevens will come back soon you'd think

        TRIGGA_HAPPY · 15/07/2020 at 15:52

        This week for Stevens

          Russty_ · 15/07/2020 at 20:59

          Steven with 1 S you mis-spelling bastards 😉

Jorg Ancrath · 15/07/2020 at 09:07

Any Rozee owners. What are you doing with the plonker? Looked like he'd ton up on the weekend, then had a 10 point second half. Do we dump him or hope he turns it around?

    Russty_ · 15/07/2020 at 10:48

    I have to keep him Andy…too many sideways trade already, would love to dump him like a hot potato but then the same rookies just stay there and no progress is made.

      NDD · 15/07/2020 at 13:06

      Same boat Russty and he still scores better than a rookie.No choice really

    TRIGGA_HAPPY · 15/07/2020 at 15:51

    Could you wait a week and trade him to Smith?

      NDD · 15/07/2020 at 18:29

      That;s a great way to run out of trades Trigg Not really keen on sideward trades

TOPHAWK1 · 15/07/2020 at 09:20

Anyone else have Callum Mills (DEF) on their mind this week? Has a BE of 19 SC after scoring 174 SC points in three quarters last week. I am thinking of going on the attack. Instead of the double downgrade, lets paint the fence and push on towards towards getting to full premo sooner rather than later. Punt Heeney for Rankine, and then another non playing bench warmer rook to Mills. It is going to absolutely bucket down on Thursday night in Perth and I reckon Sam Simpson could struggle in the wet weather. Mills could get more and more hardcore midfield time with JPK and Heeney both pretty much out for the season. At $532K he is still decent value and prefer him over Houston now. What do others reckon? Cheers. TH

    Derek · 15/07/2020 at 09:37

    I’m a big Mills fan.

    Problem with him is he is too consistent and therefore never has any big price drops to make him value.

    Get him now you are paying a fair price. But Lloyd is only $40k more. I’d prefer Lloyd.

    He is too good playing half back to be put in the guts.

    NDD · 15/07/2020 at 11:28

    He is a bit like Caleb Daniel ,,Always thereabouts scorewise and has a bigger ceiling Wont let you down .I reckon Mcinerney returns and takes a lot of mid minutes but still a good pick TH

    TRIGGA_HAPPY · 15/07/2020 at 13:49

    Been good this year in back line young millsy.

    As I have gould still (had him from day dot which seems like so long ago!l) hoping injuries will push Mills into the mids and gould get A run in def. 🙉

    Holty01 · 15/07/2020 at 14:11

    Not for me mate. Plenty of others I’d rather. Plus I wouldn’t want him in that midfield. His been scoring well in defence and if he does make it to the midfield, his scores will be affected for the worst imo. Been a reason he hasn’t been running through that midfield. Plus he is bound to have a few poor games coming up as before this year, 20/53 games has been sub 70. But with nearly unlimited trades this year, maybe worth the risk.

HallyMate · 15/07/2020 at 12:08

What do people think of Houston now? Was big hype on him preseason and now with Burton back and rocky in the sinbin he is getting the promised midfield time, worth picking up at 30k cheaper than starting price?

    Russty_ · 15/07/2020 at 20:52

    He's lookin all right lately Hallymate, dunno whether or not he's a keeper yet though, If you started with him and you still had him I'd say keep him now.

Jess · 15/07/2020 at 14:50

11 rounds in 9 weeks. Might have to get some bench cover, particularly up forward.

Starchevich to Simpson.
Second trade is harder as I have 2 non playing rookies on the pine – D Cameron and Georgiadis. Should I bite the bullet and sideways one of them to Rankine? Or should I make cash by getting rid of a C Taylor type and still have no cover up FWD. Ranked top 700

    Jess · 15/07/2020 at 14:52

    Second question. Trade Georgiadis over D Cameron? Would think Cameron more likely to play at some point

Jess · 15/07/2020 at 14:59

Do brisbane and GC players become more important now? Might be looking at Mcluggage (if fit), Greenwood and even Touk Miller and Lyons.

Would almost be voting for a best 20 odd players for the remainder of the years.

    Mitch is Back · 15/07/2020 at 15:44

    I would argue that all players from non-Victorian clubs become a priority, as essentially they will all be playing 5-6 (or more) home games in a row.

    SA & WA clubs have already played in Qld, and Victoria is a no go zone.

    Russty_ · 15/07/2020 at 21:03

    McCluggage looks good but I wouldn't rate him as a premo just yet, only 3 scores out of 6 have been good, for me a real uber premo gets 16 tons or more in a season, he'll probs drop in price this week so could you wait a week or 2?
    I wouldn't trust Miller or Lyons as keepers.

    MagicGnome97 · 16/07/2020 at 04:01

    If this is the case then you definitely wanna make sure you have:

    1. Neale 2. Greenwood.

    Both would be essential to have. People will probably feel silly not getting Rankine as well in a few weeks…

      David C · 16/07/2020 at 06:26

      Rankine won't last a few weeks.

Mitch is Back · 15/07/2020 at 15:00

Who do you have at R3, gather you could switch Cameron to the R3 position. Guessing your R3 may be worth more coin, then trade them to a better forward.

    Jess · 15/07/2020 at 15:03

    No mitch i only have Conroy (gc) as R3.
    Both Cameron and Georgiadis arent swingable for me, which highlights the problem that i must trade or keep them at some point if i want cover

      Jess · 15/07/2020 at 15:05

      Will just have to trade one of them and waste the trade and possible cash from elsewhere. Small price to pay i guess, but points and cash are pretty important if still a chance for overall

MagicGnome97 · 15/07/2020 at 15:47

Does anyone know what is going on with Mitch Georgiades? I've had him since the start and held onto him all season as a forward donut.

He hasn't even been an emergency lately. Will he ever play again this year? He's in 16% of all teams.

    Russty_ · 15/07/2020 at 16:29

    Not sure Magic but I wouldn't hold my breath, if he's recovered from his calf injury there must be another reason why he's not getting a go.

    NDD · 15/07/2020 at 17:22

    Hard to cull with all the injuries MG

      MagicGnome97 · 16/07/2020 at 03:57

      yeah for sure. if everything was perfect atm i'd probably cull him, but something always comes up (howe injury, fyfe injury, sturt injury, starcevich reaching his use by date, noble being dropped, tyler brown being dropped, heeney injury, brander injury, etc).

      Hopefully he just plays sometime soon. next week I'm hoping to get 2 of Bailey Smith, Walters and big Maxy with my warchest.

TRIGGA_HAPPY · 15/07/2020 at 15:57

Couppla small fwds to debut this week.

Reckon bytel will also get the call up…

    TOPHAWK1 · 15/07/2020 at 17:10

    Who are the small forwards Trigga?

      NDD · 15/07/2020 at 17:20

      cody weightman has to e one doesn't he?

        Jess · 15/07/2020 at 17:24

        Yeah he is

      Choppers · 15/07/2020 at 18:06

      Ned Cahill Ess.

TBone_23 · 15/07/2020 at 17:25

Can we expect a podcast this week fellas? Weightman to debut, I don’t know about his scoring potential but if anyone needs a rookie option next week!

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