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PODCAST: Why Top-18 Was The Right Call

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The gang talks about the decision to run with Top-18 scorers, Patrick Dangerfield, who to target and who to punt.

10/10 – “A good distraction.” – Connor McKenna

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holty01

Wow Lek, awesome with the Fyfe & Pittonet selections. Lucky prick. ๐Ÿฅณ

Russty_

Thanks for the pod lads, has anyone heard whether Dusty and Whitfield are right to go yet?

TRIGGA_HAPPY

Hope so

With smith missing as well then the three anointed ones mia in our fwd lines.

Mccartin has been ruled out with concussion.
Wouldn't be surprised at all to see Whitfield miss as well.

They have a new protocol of 5 days so as swans play Thursday put a line through him straight away.

Shake n bake

Whitfield Green and Kelly will be fine. Of coarse they play the pies!!

Russty_

Reckon your lads will smoke em Shake, they're looking good this season, young speedster Stephenson improves your fwd line too.

Shake n bake

Thought that in the prelim last year! Our worse game l could remember in a long time.

AuroraBorealis?!

I guarantee that if that game was played in dry conditions we would've faced richmond in that GF. We just capitulate in wet conditions

Shake n bake

Totally disagree. They had Greene Whitfield Coniglio delido and ward obviously out. Grundy had 60 odd hit outs against mummy. They had no grunt other than perryman and Williams and de boar on Pendals that predominantly played thru the middle. I thought if it rained they couldn’t possibly win. With Grundy bringing ball to ground how could the possibly get enough ball fwd. but they out pressured us especially in that 3rd qtr were they got 33 pts up before we realised how shit we were up to then. One game we definitely deserved to lose.

AuroraBorealis?!

My point about the wet is that we struggle to be clean around the ball. Obviously every team does in those conditions but it seems to effect us most detrimentally. When we aren't clean we miss a lot of key disposals/drop easy marks, and this ruins our ball movement through midfield, which in my mind is out most dangerous attribute. Our style of game seems to work much better in dry conditions.

demon delights

great pod

Russty_

If Connor Budarick's scoring trend from round 1 continues, he should score exactly 98 points this week.
Either that, or he scores 13 and proves that he's just not very trendy.
Congrats to him for being this week's rising star nominee, jeez the Suns are looking like something this year…Exciting stuff.

TRIGGA_HAPPY

Amazing what a difference a bit of confidence can do.

Rowell has buckets of it and the others are joining him for the ride.

Hub best thing that could have happened to GC.
Weagles? Not so much.

Russty_

Rowell's a bloody ripper isn't he Trig?..amazing rookie, wonder if he can maintain what he's doing now.

Browncow

My entire forward line led by Max King beat the young fella by one point. Not sure if that says more about Rowell or my forward line?

Russty_

That is a sad ..and funny story Brown, time to do some trading mate.

holty01

Wouldn’t go to early on them mate. Think they won 3 of their first 4 last year. Will be interesting when they play their next lot of games away from Metricon. I really do hope they stay competitive though.

Russty_

Yeah mate it's just good to see them playing some footy worth watching, it's been awhile.

demon delights

doubt it mate

fyfey

best defender to bring in this week ?

Russty_

Maynard's an interesting one, reckon he's become a pretty solid player these days, great start to the season.

Patch

Nick Haynes for mine Fyfey

NDD

trying to get him

JuddWarneLoveChild

Patch, Patch, Patch I'm tipping "Catch 22" is your favourite book. How can you return a positive test for TB4 when no such test existed? If it looks like a duck, waddles like a duck, goes "quack" you don't need DNA to prove it's a duck… that is, unless of course you support Essendon.

Patch

Hey, my Essendon is not a drug cheat! They may be bad at winning finals, chokers, public enemy number one and drug cheats, but they are NOT an NRL team

Russty_

Good news, only James Stewart and McKenna to be quarantined this week, so no postponements or disruption to the round, I hope no one else gets it this season so we can get it done.

gator59

So the bombers and blues game is a definite goer Russty

Russty_

Yep it's all go mate, just the two players to miss.

gator59

Good so I don't have to rage trade now

mick

Dunkley gone for at least a month

Patch

Could be much more, too, Mick. Bad news and a must trade for owners

Russty_

Whitfield, Greene and J.Kelly all fit to play this week, do we keep Whitfield now and ride the price drops or stick fat and hope he starts banging out some good scores again?

Shake n bake

Scored 119 last time he played us.

TRIGGA_HAPPY

If he plays he stays.

Probably will grab bennell as got an extra week there.

Patch

J Kelly and fit aren't words I ever expect to see in the same sentence…

Tommo

This week I am thinking of going for some quick cash. I’m thinking of trading Macpherson and Conroy to Butler and Pittonet. Thoughts on these trades? Would leave me with 26 trades left

Russty_

Good trades I reckon Tommo, with 26 left after that, you're virtually free to trade every week after.

Jorg Ancrath

What are people doing with Tom Mitchell? Not sure how long I will tolerate sub100 scores.

TBone_23

I can understand feeling that way, but he will only get better as the season goes on. He also has a perfect role and won’t be chopped and changed at all. Surely you have bigger issues in your team than him

Jorg Ancrath

Just looking at Neale owners with envy .

Russty_

I'm just gonna hold Andy, he's had a bit of a sore shoulder so hopefully he gets over that soon.

Shake n bake

Sturt out for up to 5 weeks

TBone_23

Confirmed mate? That’s frustrating, let’s hope Dusty and Whit both get up this weekend!

Russty_

Whit was already in full training Tbone and I read Dusty should be ok so fingers crossed for both.
Yeah Sturt confirmed, there's a new injury update list on afl.com.au

Shake n bake

Mckenna now negative

Russty_

Wtf?…lol, does that mean he has it or not or did they stuff the tests up?

Holty01

Apparently the test was a false positive. A mistake.

Derek

Blackwater Part 2

Shake n bake

Butler to debut for bulldogs def/mid

King Max

Sorry, 18 round was really unfair.
Now with McKenna being Negative.
My whole team derailed over nothing.

gator59

I hear you King

Jorg Ancrath

Wasn't nothing. Can't assume a test is false positive. Maybe he tests positive again. And the 18 was only option. Points can't be given if not earned. It's the basis of the game.

Paul

agreed it sucks mate, i totally derailed too. I was sitting at 420 overall, but had 6 dees / dons players on field, only scored 1700 and i'm now around the 11,000 mark overall. It sucks, season done

Derek

I can’t see how SC will have the Melb vs Essendon game as part of a round. Double game weeks are for BBL.

They will probably play the catch up game on a Tuesday or Wednesday, that game can just not be part of either weekend rounds. Scores don’t count

King Max

The way I’m hearing it will play out, Ess/Dees will play a midweek game then play a late weekend game against different opponents. But their two games will be added together for that round. Eg Merrett gets 110 against Dees, then second game gets 99. His total for the round will be 209.

Derek

There is something unfair about that

Jorg Ancrath

We can all still trade in Dee/Bomber players. There's not an embargo.

TREV

Why ? use your trades and get dees in your team. You can't expect dee/bomber owners to be robbed twice. This is S/C's explanation concerning fairness. Swings and roundabouts Derek Non owners can't have it both ways

gator59

I just hope all burn trades to get to the double points and for what.. Trade them back out again.. Good luck

holty01

This is what I agree with. Just not that simple bringing them in.

What_Bear

Hi All,

I need some advice please
I have been conservitave so far, but think its time to start spending some $$$. I have 389K to play with.

Sicily, Laird, Doc, Starc, Noble, Brander (Rivers, BZT)
Neale, Fyfe, Cripps, Macrae, Oliver, Rowell, Budarick, Bennall (Pickett, T. Brown, McInerney)
Grundy, Pittonett (xerri)
Martin, Whitfield, D, Smith, Bewley, Taylor, King (Sturt, Cameron)

Do i wait a little longer for the rookiers to fatten up? Bring in a gun, swap a rookie? Im totally lost on stragerty with the short season

Thanks i advance for any help

King Max

Sturt to either Simpkin or Petracca.

Derek

What are Houston owners doing?

Wines, Rocky, Boak are locked into Ports Midfield, with Ebert and SPP making a few cameos. No room for Houston.

Add to that Ports easy first 3 games, their backline don’t get to see the ball. The only time zhouston got a touch was when he would run 100m to the wing and get a few touches.

They have a couple of harder games ahead, Will their defence see more of the ball? If should we cut our losses?

Russty_

I've moved him on Derek to Stewart, I only have 3 premos in my backline so having one of them average 70 wasn't good enough, hopefully I won't have to do the same with Rozee.

The Ranger

Buggered if I can decide Derek.
Got him at D4 and could trade him to Sicily/Short/Andrews but I don't have enough to get anyone pricier than that.
I'm supposed to be bank building not spending too.
Might have to sit it out and hope he can turn it around.

Russty_

How about Ridley or Doedee Ranger?

TREV

it will cost a second trades to get rid of them Is anyone watching the numbers in each team Ihave too many Collingwood and melbourne but dumping Grundy will give me 4 but only 3 prems Howe Gawn and Oliver hope there's no more covid

The Ranger

Had a think about those two but they're both sideways trades.
Leaning towards using what bank I have and going Sauce – Pittonet and Houston – Lloyd.
Not happy about the Sauce – Pittonet trade but might just bite the bullet if it gets me to Lloyd.

Daniel

Thoughts on Jacobs to Pittonet which would give me enough cash to trade Noble, swing brander to defence and get in McLean, who should play midfield in Dunkleys absence.

Derek

I am moving out Jacobs this week. If Naismith plays will probably go with him, if not Pittionet.

DavidC

Another doggie to debut. Butler in defence, might score ok off halfback. McClean to spend more time in the mids. Job security could be ok until Dunks is back.

TREV

Could be ok with a penetrating boot, Thinking later he might end up in a lockdown role when he has played a bit

Big Maxy

So if your owner of Melb Ess players you were at a major disadvantage last weekend. If you weren't you got a major advantage.

This has been labeled as fair by some people.

Now if they have a double points round for the Melb Ess players and your a current non owner now you get another major advantage. If your a current owner who has already been disadvantaged, guess what you get disadvantaged a second time.

Again this has been called fair……..

TOPHAWK1

So what is your solution Maxy?

TelescopicCox

I've seen people float the idea of a best 22 round. Basically Dees & Dons player scores for that round are not combined, but deemed separate, and only your best 22 scores for the round are counted. For example if Petracca scores a 140 & a 40, and the 40 isn't in your best 22 then that score isn't counted. It's not an ideal scenario but could be more "fair" as compared to a DGW where non ESS-MEL players can load up.

In the end any solution won't be fair for anyone, and if they do a double round, I'll be loading up on Dees & Dons premos if possible

TREV

MAXY the only way owners will be DISadvantaged is nons can load up costing them trades that's it Owners don't have to trade ,they already have them i wont be disadvantaged cause i can trade 2 cheats and still be in front My current 5 dee/bombers plus 2 new ones against your two new one still leaves me 300 points in front (what i was robbed of) This is fair

holty01

Hi Big Maxy. I posted something lower down the page about this. Simply, how much is a trade worth? If you load up on all these Melb and Ess players for that 1 round, you will be disadvantaged for the rest of the season as you will run out of trades.

TREV

Therefore it is a huge advantage to owners compensating for the18 round as it should be

holty01

Exactly. The owners of these players need to be compensated in some way. If others think they can take advantage of it, it’s much easier said then done as ultimately most will be sideways trading without strengthening their team and ultimately running out of trades.

TREV

to get gawn as a capt for two rounds will cost you grundy 150 pts x2x2 = 600 pts for grundy's 300 Massive gain but it would cost 2 trades and you lose grundy;s 150 Nett gain 150 points for 2 trades Nup

Big Maxy

Hi Holty, using the 4 players you posted below, Gawn, Oliver, Petracca and Smith as examples. I would say that all 4 are legitimate upgrade targets for a full premo team, if you didn't start them.
So I don't think their is an extra cost involved for when upgrading your team.
Has there been a date announced for when Melb Ess play the game?

TOPHAWK1

Geez, the controversy continues to rage over the 18 best players scores due to the Essendon-Melbourne game postponement. I have Rivers, Bennell, BZT, and Devon Smith, as well as the following bench warmers, Dusty, Tom Green, Conroy, O'Connor, and Georgiades. So I was also seriously stretched last weekend. My first two rounds were abysmal with most of my premos under performing. However, my premos decided to fire up last week with big tonnes coming from Mc Cluggage, Macrae, Heeney, Doedee, Pittonet, Cripps, Docherty, Crisp, Sicily, and Rowell. So, if I was awarded my average score from the first two rounds, its fair to say I would have been absolutely ropable. I deserved my score of 2037 last weekend. All in all, the 18 player rule invoked last weekend was in the grand scheme of things the correct call from my position at least. I guess at the end of the day, we all have our views on the issue, but its time to get on with it. Also, for coaches who are planning to bring in Melbourne and Essendon players this week to take advantage of the double points bonus round, be careful as SC may still announce some new rules around this to nullify this strategy. Cheers. TH

The Ranger

I've read all of the commentary and I can't find a ruling that wouldn't disadvantage someone, all we're really discussing is what's the least worst option.
What we do now know TH is that SC will use the best 18 rule if something likes this happens again.
And there's every chance it will.

TREV

The three fantasy codes all went different best 18,projected and averages.All have flaws .With ours,the best 18, you should be compensated by having a lone crack at the postponed game i.e.no trading on the dees/cheats game

TREV

You deserved your 2037 but so did i ,and i got robbed Really the only true way was to rejig back to round 2 The system works well in BBL but for this a no trades on the dees/ bomber game is necessary preventing johnny come lately's cashing in

holty01

Hi Trev. Was with you a few days ago on this but the more I think about it , the more I agree with best 18 and double points for Melb and Ess for that week. Yes you are right about people cashing in but how many trades are they chewing up to do this? How much is a trade actually worth? Apart from 4 players (Gawn, Oliver, Petracca and Smith) who else would you want to be in your side by seasons end? If people load up on these players, they will simply be trading them straight back out. Wasting trades to do so. Yes for those who had plenty of Melb and Ess players (I had 5) had a tough week but I’d be happier when that double points round as they don’t have to worry about using trades on players they don’t necessarily want to keep. The ones who already have them, are using their trades on the very best players. Trades are priceless and right now I’m happy I have these players as I don’t want to waste any trades.

TREV

i think you misunderstood me i am all for the 18 round as long as they get the extra round but with no coaches permitted to trade on that game .That's fair If you have them good luck Quite correct I have those 4 and anyone else will be traded out including viney costing 2 trades each far far too much if you chase points it costs you double trades

Wtfoxtrot_58

Should only be double points for the people who held players in last weeks non issue.
If i had Max last week then bought Smith, I would only get double points for Max's not Smith.

TREV

Finally an intelligent poster wont happen though but as Holty says it will cost them unnecessary trades

holty01

That’s fine but how would you monitor that? How can SuperCoach put that into action? I doubt it would be a easy thing to put this data in place for SC to monitor. I would think you would almost have to shut Sc down for some wiz computer experts to put some encrypted codes in etc to make this happen. Seems like a lot of work. Also, do people like myself get punished as I held trades but then traded out Petracca late on Sunday but with every thought of bringing him straight back in? I think the rules have now been put in place and they can’t change it now. Do I agree with them, not 100% but we all know how it is now. If they keep changing their minds, I think it will just make things more confusing and harder.

TRIGGA_HAPPY

I do feel for the people right at the pointy end who may have a shot at this thing but most of us are just in it for fun.

I have written a very in depth analysis of this round and the impact in a post below.

The one that people aren't talking about is draft.
Some of us are pretty competitive and enjoy beating our mates and quality opposition

In draft you get 18 players but got zero if they didn't play.
Out of my 18, 5 didnt play.
Dusty, gawn, petracca, oliver and smith .

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Anymore and I would able to open my own shop!

But you take your medicine and move on…

Rd 4 awaits….

Shake n bake

Just a quick one Trigg, any particular team you like to win against above most??

TRIGGA_HAPPY

You re always in the gun shake!

It's always good to beat anyone of you guys as you are so good at this game.

Not being able to take the bunnies on at full strength stung.

After another gun mid or defender – pittonet up for trade lads

Hit me up.

Shake n bake

Haha like you said so many good players!

Russty_

Last week I got about 1230 in one of my trade sides and Gator beat me by about 5 points LOL, mega-shafted! Normally I'm 500 points better than that, but thanks to their dodgy testing, anyhoo enough whining..onwards and upwards!

TelescopicCox

What would be a better option community? Bringing in Pitto for R3 duties, noting that I've already missed 2 monster scores and an $80K increase, or bringing in Fort and hoping he can average around 90. Fort would be on my field at F5

Russty_

Pitto for R3 or R2 duties I reckon…he's out averaging Grundy

TREV

done it russty grundy to pitto gives me a complete forward line next week

Jorg Ancrath

Why did Connor have to do me like that. I thought he was my bae, then he drops a filthy, steaming 30 on me. Now I don't know where I stand. So confused and hurt. Hold me, Rozeeeeee.

Russty_

It was very disappointing after his 2 starting scores, it was wet though, the worry is, he wasn't in the middle much, also he got kicked in the face so that probs shook him up a bit. He barely got to 30 in the last quarter, I thought he was gonna end up on 15 or so lol, I'm hoping he bounces back strong this week.

TREV

He's only young Russty ,Even Rowell will drop a stinker ,I think

TRIGGA_HAPPY

Think wines return impacted Rozee.

derek

and a fit Ebert.

Willymack1234

To trade or keep Yeo? Looks to be not 100%

Loop

Sore shoulder I think.

Russty_

He had a crap start last year too Willy, check last year's scores, he got into gear after that with plenty of tons.

Shake n bake

Only Collingwood change Cox in for Cameron

Russty_

Saw that one coming, Cameron becomes dead weight now.

TREV

good loop now Russty

Russty_

Yeah true Trev if they didn't have Xerri, kinda glad I didn't get him now, Rankine might be ready soon for the fwd line, Cavarra too, not sure if he gets in though.

AuroraBorealis?!

No treloar Shake? Thats a shock

Shake n bake

He said he’s ready to go didn’t join in the main group today. So think he’ll be overlooked for 1 more week.

Russty_

I read they were still being cautious with him.

TRIGGA_HAPPY

COVID 19 positive test in AFL and the resulting impact on supercoach scores in 2020.

Refer below.

Luck is defined as :

"The events or circumstances that operate for or against an individual"

Here in endith the lesson..

That is all…

Paul

agreed Trigga.
I'm not filthy with the decision, they're in a damn hard spot, i'm just gutted. I was 420 overall, had 6 on field dees / dons and i'm now around the 11k mark. Season over. The circumstances operated well and truly against me, not filthy, just gutted.

FearTheBeard

Whitfield out for Fyfe (swing Budarick onto field?)

HOLD?

FearTheBeard

Or Walters and upgrade Strut to Doedee and swing Brander down?

TRIGGA_HAPPY

Pretty simple are you after cash or points fear?

If points just have to ask yourself one simple question.

Do you think whitfield and ? will outscore Fyfe and budarick until it becomes time to upgrade budarick?

DEESNUTSRBIG

How about:
If you trade Melbourne and Essendon players in from this round on you don't get the points from the Ess/Melb game played later in the year?
Original owners of Melb/Ess players need a chance to use the score from the players they had that missed the game (whether they have since been traded out or are injured etc) in some form – many suggestions have already been listed.

Billioux

No, dont like it. Harley legit upgrade this round, also Gawn upgrade normal trade. Should not b double points. Simply take best score from the melb/ess double up. Ie Gawn goes 110 and 190. You get the 190.

Shake n bake

So pies and cats off to Perth ๐Ÿ™

TOPHAWK1

I like it!! We will make them feel right at home here in sunny Perth! ๐Ÿ˜Ž๐Ÿ˜Ž

Russty_

Yeah right, at least they'll be able to play in front of people here and not cardboard people and crowd laugh tracks ๐Ÿ™‚

TOPHAWK1

They will cop plenty of flak when they are here Russty. All in good jest though. Looking forward to it!

Shake n bake

Play you twice this week Hawk!

TOPHAWK1

Should be a great battle Shake. Bring it on!!

Shake n bake

Watch out!!

Binga

Thoughts pls guys on Travis Boak and Nick Haynes in for Josh Kelly and Lachie Whitfield?

Cheers Binga

Russty_

I think both the Giants boys are good to go Binga..I'm gonna hold on Whitfield so he can earn his money back.

TREV

Why the heck would you do that?

TOPHAWK1

No, not a great idea. Sideways trades those. Whitfield and Kelly are too good to stay down for long. Give them a chance.

Binga

Kelly has injury history and Whitfield will fall in price big time… I have got plans in place to bring him back in don't u worry about that.. This season has already been a crazy 1 why not take risks… Kelly breakeven 160 so why not get Boak who is averaging 130 odd and Haynes who will go close to top 6 come season end.

Any more thoughts will be considered… if u wanna see my team search up DRSC CHAINSAW FC.

Cheers Binga

TREV

You have a point but trades are still super valuable Most coaches will have 13 to 14 keepers and maybe Rowell so we need 14 trades there plus injuries and finals / Not a lot of riggle room

Binga

My keepers at this point from my team will be Howe, Haynes, Docherty, Neale, Cripps, Macrae,Boak,Danger, Rowell, Grundy, Gawn, Ablett, Gresham and Dev Smith…

What do u think of these keepers??

Cheers Binga

Billioux

Whitfield is top 6 , so his price is not relevant. Hold him if plays this week.

Mitch is Back

Thoughts on Grundy to Pittonet.

Both are averaging about the same (132 v 136), and Pittonet is $400k cheaper. Next week the gap will be around $300k, so it now or never.

In a season where getting to full premo is going to be extremely difficult, the $400k saving would be significant.

TREV

It's a totally different season and normally I wouldn't remotely consider it but I bet some will particularly when you can get him back easily. I have done it for ceglar and Pitto Next week easily get Petracca. .Just too much coin to ignore

Joe_T

Massive risk/reward situation, if you do it you're pretty much saying goodbye to Grundy for the whole season. Or hoping he has a bad patch of scores and drops in price so you can trade him in later.

Personally I wouldn't do it – there's a reason Grundy Grundy consistently finishes in the top scorers every season.

derek

rucks are scoring massive this year. Grundy could end up averaging 140+

Trevor

Gee Whiz there are some massive sooks hanging araound here this week.
Supercoach decided it was best 18 and that's it.
The only fairer option was to void the whole round.
Those claiming giving averages would be fairer actually mean it would be better for them. Giving averages after 2 games is not fair, have a look how many players with 100+ averages after 2 games failed to ton up in round 3.
The only time that awarding averages as the score would be slightly fair is the last game of the year and even then it would be massively unfair. Speculative scores is never a fair option.
Next thing you know you'll be calling for players who miss games due to injury or suspension and late outs to be granted their averages. If you don't score you dont score its pretty simple really.

Pick up dummies and climb back into the cot you whingers.

Russty_

I had 1 Bomber and 2 Dees and ended up with a shit score compared to other teams so I didn't benefit from not having many dees or bombers, it was my other players who were to blame for my crap score.
I got 1885 and if teams with 6 or 7 dees/bombers all get double points that's gonna be a pretty huge leg up there.
I'm not having a go at anyone but I am getting sick of hearing about it for days on end, time to move on.
The end

Russty_

Better to get Petracca into the fwd line or Butler, for Long ?
Petracca = $11k in bank
Butler = 125k in bank
Are either of them keepers?…I don't know

derek

when in doubt, get the bloke who plays in the guts

Russty_

Good point, just hope he's staying there.

TRIGGA_HAPPY

At the moment I think will give long.one more chance but the finger is itchy.

Russty_

I don't think I can take another one of his shite scores Trig, Butler is tempting too but can he keep up his hot start?

TREV

Hi Russty With the forwards i think both can make it 90 to 95 av. would get you to F6 but ones a proven high ceiling player,Petracca. My forwards are complete Whitfield Martin Smith Ceglar Rozee and Tracca. Now the rest

holty01

At the beginning of the year I’d say neither. I also bagged people who thought of starting Petracca as he always promises so much but never delivers. After round 1, still wasn’t interested. After round 2 however, I had to bring him in. He just looks very good and will admit I got it wrong this year. Petracca for me mate.

Russty_

Thanks Holty and Trev, it might be the year where he finally does live up to his potential and becomes a keeper, I think I trust him more than Butler, just leaves me skint is all.

derek

Sinclair and Naismith both named. not going near Naismith now.

Russty_

And Mclean!…all 3 of em, are you getting Pittonet now Derek?

Maverick_

Sympkin the solution for Dunkley?
480k is tempting. Could swing him forward at a later date should finish top 4-6 forward.

Russty_

I would if I had Dunks Mav, Simpkin's flying and could still get to 550k

Maverick_

I don't have the big three in Neale, Fyfe and Macrae but in a pretty sh*tful year I think I'm willing to risk it and just have a bit of fun from here on Mate.

JM!

do u think he can be a top 6 forward? Surely his average dips, but It would seem like a yes for top 6…

Box

Don't trust Sympkin keeping up the scoring once Cunnington comes back in,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Maverick_

He's posted scores of 130 & 105 with cunners in the side…

Binga

I’ve had some new thoughts Whitfield and Gould out Haynes and Hamill in? What do you think of these new trades? Cheers Binga

JM!

What to do with Houston. Currently D3. Trade to Ridley/Short/Clark or hold? I have been hoping for time in the middle…which has not materialised.

Nick

What do with Houston and Sturt????

Option 1
Houston to Hill, Sturt to Walters/Henry/Simpkin

Option 2
Houston to Lloyd, Sturt to Rankine (should I jump the gun on rankin? He’s off the injury list and should be ready to go next week)

Option 3
Houston to Maynard (avg 115), Sturt to Partitt (avg 115)