PODCAST: Why Top-18 Was The Right Call

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The gang talks about the decision to run with Top-18 scorers, Patrick Dangerfield, who to target and who to punt.

10/10 – “A good distraction.” – Connor McKenna

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191 Comments

holty01 · 22/06/2020 at 23:05

Wow Lek, awesome with the Fyfe & Pittonet selections. Lucky prick. 🥳

    Lekdog · 24/06/2020 at 18:12

    I was very lucky, and on the flip side, if they had played as normal I would've loaded up on Melb rookies like I had planned and big Maxy/Oliver would've dominated.

Russty_ · 23/06/2020 at 00:35

Thanks for the pod lads, has anyone heard whether Dusty and Whitfield are right to go yet?

    TRIGGA_HAPPY · 23/06/2020 at 03:50

    Hope so

    With smith missing as well then the three anointed ones mia in our fwd lines.

    Mccartin has been ruled out with concussion.
    Wouldn't be surprised at all to see Whitfield miss as well.

    They have a new protocol of 5 days so as swans play Thursday put a line through him straight away.

    Shake n bake · 23/06/2020 at 15:05

    Whitfield Green and Kelly will be fine. Of coarse they play the pies!!

      Russty_ · 23/06/2020 at 15:23

      Reckon your lads will smoke em Shake, they're looking good this season, young speedster Stephenson improves your fwd line too.

        Shake n bake · 23/06/2020 at 15:30

        Thought that in the prelim last year! Our worse game l could remember in a long time.

          AuroraBorealis?! · 23/06/2020 at 23:08

          I guarantee that if that game was played in dry conditions we would've faced richmond in that GF. We just capitulate in wet conditions

            Shake n bake · 24/06/2020 at 07:58

            Totally disagree. They had Greene Whitfield Coniglio delido and ward obviously out. Grundy had 60 odd hit outs against mummy. They had no grunt other than perryman and Williams and de boar on Pendals that predominantly played thru the middle. I thought if it rained they couldn’t possibly win. With Grundy bringing ball to ground how could the possibly get enough ball fwd. but they out pressured us especially in that 3rd qtr were they got 33 pts up before we realised how shit we were up to then. One game we definitely deserved to lose.

              AuroraBorealis?! · 24/06/2020 at 15:47

              My point about the wet is that we struggle to be clean around the ball. Obviously every team does in those conditions but it seems to effect us most detrimentally. When we aren't clean we miss a lot of key disposals/drop easy marks, and this ruins our ball movement through midfield, which in my mind is out most dangerous attribute. Our style of game seems to work much better in dry conditions.

    demon delights · 25/06/2020 at 20:57

    great pod

Russty_ · 23/06/2020 at 01:08

If Connor Budarick's scoring trend from round 1 continues, he should score exactly 98 points this week.
Either that, or he scores 13 and proves that he's just not very trendy.
Congrats to him for being this week's rising star nominee, jeez the Suns are looking like something this year…Exciting stuff.

    TRIGGA_HAPPY · 23/06/2020 at 03:48

    Amazing what a difference a bit of confidence can do.

    Rowell has buckets of it and the others are joining him for the ride.

    Hub best thing that could have happened to GC.
    Weagles? Not so much.

      Russty_ · 23/06/2020 at 13:52

      Rowell's a bloody ripper isn't he Trig?..amazing rookie, wonder if he can maintain what he's doing now.

        Browncow · 23/06/2020 at 15:00

        My entire forward line led by Max King beat the young fella by one point. Not sure if that says more about Rowell or my forward line?

          Russty_ · 23/06/2020 at 15:02

          That is a sad ..and funny story Brown, time to do some trading mate.

    holty01 · 23/06/2020 at 08:18

    Wouldn’t go to early on them mate. Think they won 3 of their first 4 last year. Will be interesting when they play their next lot of games away from Metricon. I really do hope they stay competitive though.

      Russty_ · 23/06/2020 at 13:51

      Yeah mate it's just good to see them playing some footy worth watching, it's been awhile.

    demon delights · 25/06/2020 at 21:10

    doubt it mate

fyfey · 23/06/2020 at 12:17

best defender to bring in this week ?

    Russty_ · 23/06/2020 at 13:53

    Maynard's an interesting one, reckon he's become a pretty solid player these days, great start to the season.

    Patch · 23/06/2020 at 18:56

    Nick Haynes for mine Fyfey

      Lekdog · 24/06/2020 at 18:13

      Agree with Patch here

    NDD · 25/06/2020 at 21:26

    trying to get him

JuddWarneLoveChild · 23/06/2020 at 12:17

Patch, Patch, Patch I'm tipping "Catch 22" is your favourite book. How can you return a positive test for TB4 when no such test existed? If it looks like a duck, waddles like a duck, goes "quack" you don't need DNA to prove it's a duck… that is, unless of course you support Essendon.

    Patch · 23/06/2020 at 18:57

    Hey, my Essendon is not a drug cheat! They may be bad at winning finals, chokers, public enemy number one and drug cheats, but they are NOT an NRL team

      Lekdog · 24/06/2020 at 18:13

      This is so underrated

Russty_ · 23/06/2020 at 14:06

Good news, only James Stewart and McKenna to be quarantined this week, so no postponements or disruption to the round, I hope no one else gets it this season so we can get it done.

    gator59 · 23/06/2020 at 14:17

    So the bombers and blues game is a definite goer Russty

      Russty_ · 23/06/2020 at 14:34

      Yep it's all go mate, just the two players to miss.

        gator59 · 23/06/2020 at 15:02

        Good so I don't have to rage trade now

mick · 23/06/2020 at 14:57

Dunkley gone for at least a month

    Patch · 23/06/2020 at 18:57

    Could be much more, too, Mick. Bad news and a must trade for owners

Russty_ · 23/06/2020 at 15:03

Whitfield, Greene and J.Kelly all fit to play this week, do we keep Whitfield now and ride the price drops or stick fat and hope he starts banging out some good scores again?

    dontblushbaby · 23/06/2020 at 15:16

    Its been playing on my mind Russty, Whitfield projected to lose 50k, whereas Butler is projected to rise by 50k or Devon Smith who is projected to increase by 40k – I traded in Rozee for D.Smith on Saturday night ,didn't work out the way I wanted though

    If trades were tight I would definitely be holding Whitfield, decisions ?

      Russty_ · 23/06/2020 at 15:25

      Hey Dbb, I'm weighing up whether to maybe go Whitfield to Simpkin or Jacobs to Pittonet, both sideways trades though so not sure if they're productive or not.
      Yeah that was a bummer from Rozee, I started with him too, the wet didn't help but also it looked like he was mostly playing fwd which is bad.

        dontblushbaby · 23/06/2020 at 15:41

        Yes Jacobs has been disappointing especially last week , I think Derek posted he was looking at trading Naismith if he's fit which is an option I'm entertaining

          Derek · 23/06/2020 at 18:37

          After Pittionets first game I posted ‘Naismith who?’

        Loop · 24/06/2020 at 04:04

        He did get kicked in the face. He looked very uncomfortable when the doctor was poking at it.

    Shake n bake · 23/06/2020 at 15:33

    Scored 119 last time he played us.

    TRIGGA_HAPPY · 23/06/2020 at 16:36

    If he plays he stays.

    Probably will grab bennell as got an extra week there.

      Lekdog · 24/06/2020 at 18:14

      Agreed, if he plays, he stays

    Patch · 23/06/2020 at 18:57

    J Kelly and fit aren't words I ever expect to see in the same sentence…

Tommo · 23/06/2020 at 15:20

This week I am thinking of going for some quick cash. I’m thinking of trading Macpherson and Conroy to Butler and Pittonet. Thoughts on these trades? Would leave me with 26 trades left

    Russty_ · 23/06/2020 at 15:45

    Good trades I reckon Tommo, with 26 left after that, you're virtually free to trade every week after.

    Lekdog · 24/06/2020 at 18:15

    With 26 left, go for it!

Jorg Ancrath · 23/06/2020 at 15:50

What are people doing with Tom Mitchell? Not sure how long I will tolerate sub100 scores.

    TBone_23 · 23/06/2020 at 18:22

    I can understand feeling that way, but he will only get better as the season goes on. He also has a perfect role and won’t be chopped and changed at all. Surely you have bigger issues in your team than him

      Jorg Ancrath · 23/06/2020 at 18:31

      Just looking at Neale owners with envy .

    Russty_ · 23/06/2020 at 18:31

    I'm just gonna hold Andy, he's had a bit of a sore shoulder so hopefully he gets over that soon.

Shake n bake · 23/06/2020 at 16:35

Sturt out for up to 5 weeks

    TBone_23 · 23/06/2020 at 18:21

    Confirmed mate? That’s frustrating, let’s hope Dusty and Whit both get up this weekend!

      Russty_ · 23/06/2020 at 18:30

      Whit was already in full training Tbone and I read Dusty should be ok so fingers crossed for both.
      Yeah Sturt confirmed, there's a new injury update list on afl.com.au

Shake n bake · 23/06/2020 at 18:04

Mckenna now negative

    Russty_ · 23/06/2020 at 18:27

    Wtf?…lol, does that mean he has it or not or did they stuff the tests up?

      Holty01 · 23/06/2020 at 18:52

      Apparently the test was a false positive. A mistake.

    Derek · 23/06/2020 at 20:07

    Blackwater Part 2

Shake n bake · 23/06/2020 at 18:27

Butler to debut for bulldogs def/mid

    dontblushbaby · 23/06/2020 at 21:23

    Yep, with Dunkley out and Butler in, McLean will go in the Mids ??

King Max · 23/06/2020 at 19:34

Sorry, 18 round was really unfair.
Now with McKenna being Negative.
My whole team derailed over nothing.

    gator59 · 23/06/2020 at 20:35

    I hear you King

    Jorg Ancrath · 23/06/2020 at 20:56

    Wasn't nothing. Can't assume a test is false positive. Maybe he tests positive again. And the 18 was only option. Points can't be given if not earned. It's the basis of the game.

      dontblushbaby · 23/06/2020 at 22:15

      You are either Pregnant or not Pregnant

        Jorg Ancrath · 24/06/2020 at 06:33

        Pregnancy tests can be false positive. That's why the doctor will do a second test. Same here.

    Paul · 25/06/2020 at 15:55

    agreed it sucks mate, i totally derailed too. I was sitting at 420 overall, but had 6 dees / dons players on field, only scored 1700 and i'm now around the 11,000 mark overall. It sucks, season done

Derek · 23/06/2020 at 22:38

I can’t see how SC will have the Melb vs Essendon game as part of a round. Double game weeks are for BBL.

They will probably play the catch up game on a Tuesday or Wednesday, that game can just not be part of either weekend rounds. Scores don’t count

    King Max · 23/06/2020 at 23:56

    The way I’m hearing it will play out, Ess/Dees will play a midweek game then play a late weekend game against different opponents. But their two games will be added together for that round. Eg Merrett gets 110 against Dees, then second game gets 99. His total for the round will be 209.

      Derek · 24/06/2020 at 00:18

      There is something unfair about that

        Jorg Ancrath · 24/06/2020 at 05:47

        We can all still trade in Dee/Bomber players. There's not an embargo.

        TREV · 24/06/2020 at 07:43

        Why ? use your trades and get dees in your team. You can't expect dee/bomber owners to be robbed twice. This is S/C's explanation concerning fairness. Swings and roundabouts Derek Non owners can't have it both ways

          Lekdog · 24/06/2020 at 18:17

          I suspect non-owners will get it both ways, unsure that the system allows the guys to see who had them at what point in the year…will be interesting to watch though

    gator59 · 24/06/2020 at 14:56

    I just hope all burn trades to get to the double points and for what.. Trade them back out again.. Good luck

      holty01 · 24/06/2020 at 20:40

      This is what I agree with. Just not that simple bringing them in.

What_Bear · 23/06/2020 at 23:29

Hi All,

I need some advice please
I have been conservitave so far, but think its time to start spending some $$$. I have 389K to play with.

Sicily, Laird, Doc, Starc, Noble, Brander (Rivers, BZT)
Neale, Fyfe, Cripps, Macrae, Oliver, Rowell, Budarick, Bennall (Pickett, T. Brown, McInerney)
Grundy, Pittonett (xerri)
Martin, Whitfield, D, Smith, Bewley, Taylor, King (Sturt, Cameron)

Do i wait a little longer for the rookiers to fatten up? Bring in a gun, swap a rookie? Im totally lost on stragerty with the short season

Thanks i advance for any help

    King Max · 24/06/2020 at 00:00

    Sturt to either Simpkin or Petracca.

      Lekdog · 24/06/2020 at 18:17

      Agree

Derek · 24/06/2020 at 00:23

What are Houston owners doing?

Wines, Rocky, Boak are locked into Ports Midfield, with Ebert and SPP making a few cameos. No room for Houston.

Add to that Ports easy first 3 games, their backline don’t get to see the ball. The only time zhouston got a touch was when he would run 100m to the wing and get a few touches.

They have a couple of harder games ahead, Will their defence see more of the ball? If should we cut our losses?

    Russty_ · 24/06/2020 at 11:33

    I've moved him on Derek to Stewart, I only have 3 premos in my backline so having one of them average 70 wasn't good enough, hopefully I won't have to do the same with Rozee.

    The Ranger · 24/06/2020 at 12:48

    Buggered if I can decide Derek.
    Got him at D4 and could trade him to Sicily/Short/Andrews but I don't have enough to get anyone pricier than that.
    I'm supposed to be bank building not spending too.
    Might have to sit it out and hope he can turn it around.

      Russty_ · 24/06/2020 at 14:48

      How about Ridley or Doedee Ranger?

        TREV · 24/06/2020 at 15:39

        it will cost a second trades to get rid of them Is anyone watching the numbers in each team Ihave too many Collingwood and melbourne but dumping Grundy will give me 4 but only 3 prems Howe Gawn and Oliver hope there's no more covid

        The Ranger · 24/06/2020 at 15:47

        Had a think about those two but they're both sideways trades.
        Leaning towards using what bank I have and going Sauce – Pittonet and Houston – Lloyd.
        Not happy about the Sauce – Pittonet trade but might just bite the bullet if it gets me to Lloyd.

Daniel · 24/06/2020 at 02:32

Thoughts on Jacobs to Pittonet which would give me enough cash to trade Noble, swing brander to defence and get in McLean, who should play midfield in Dunkleys absence.

    Derek · 24/06/2020 at 07:19

    I am moving out Jacobs this week. If Naismith plays will probably go with him, if not Pittionet.

    Lekdog · 24/06/2020 at 18:18

    Like Jacobs to Pitto.

    Don't love McLean

DavidC · 24/06/2020 at 06:04

Another doggie to debut. Butler in defence, might score ok off halfback. McClean to spend more time in the mids. Job security could be ok until Dunks is back.

    TREV · 24/06/2020 at 07:46

    Could be ok with a penetrating boot, Thinking later he might end up in a lockdown role when he has played a bit

Big Maxy · 24/06/2020 at 08:35

So if your owner of Melb Ess players you were at a major disadvantage last weekend. If you weren't you got a major advantage.

This has been labeled as fair by some people.

Now if they have a double points round for the Melb Ess players and your a current non owner now you get another major advantage. If your a current owner who has already been disadvantaged, guess what you get disadvantaged a second time.

Again this has been called fair……..

    TOPHAWK1 · 24/06/2020 at 08:41

    So what is your solution Maxy?

      TelescopicCox · 24/06/2020 at 09:13

      I've seen people float the idea of a best 22 round. Basically Dees & Dons player scores for that round are not combined, but deemed separate, and only your best 22 scores for the round are counted. For example if Petracca scores a 140 & a 40, and the 40 isn't in your best 22 then that score isn't counted. It's not an ideal scenario but could be more "fair" as compared to a DGW where non ESS-MEL players can load up.

      In the end any solution won't be fair for anyone, and if they do a double round, I'll be loading up on Dees & Dons premos if possible

      Big Maxy · 24/06/2020 at 09:24

      For mine Top Hawk giving the average score would of been the fairest decision. Giving the smallest disadvantage and advantage to owners and non owners alike. Now it's a 'x2' disadvantage/advantage factor for both sets of owners.
      Also it would of kept it at a best 22 score, as normal.
      So Whitfield owners would not have got a free pass on his 8 pts. Same goes for D. Cameron 28, Sturt 11.
      Heck I even saw someone field McInerney from the swans, due to not being on the ball with team changes, his score of 0 also got a free pass.

        TOPHAWK1 · 24/06/2020 at 09:39

        I hear what you are saying Maxy. I own Hugh Mc Cluggage. He scored 85 and 66 in the first two rounds for an average 75. Last round he scored 155 SC. If I was awarded his average score last week, he would have earned me 75 SC instead of the 155 SC which he scored fair and square due to his excellent performance against the Eagles. If the average round scores rule was implemented instead of best 18, it would have cost me 80 SC points! Now that would have made Tophawk most unhappy. I guess it all depends on which side of the fence you sit. For mine, its time to move on, forget about it, and look ahead to round 4. Cheers, TH

          Big Maxy · 24/06/2020 at 10:17

          Fair enough Top Hawk. I don't think that scenario applies to this situation though.
          Look at Gawns scores 93 and 184 for an average of 138.5pts.
          Oliver 99 and 127 for 113
          Petracca 105 and 126 for 115.5
          D. Smith 105 and 105 for 105
          Merrett 111 and 159 for 135
          Just as examples.
          Forgetting if your a non owner or owner what is fairer, awarding these guys their average score or a 0 score?

          And again as I mentioned above with Whitfield etc examples there are advantages / disadvantages to players not even involved in the Melb Ess game.

          I think clearly the lesser advantage to all is going with average score. As it reduces the effect of alot of variables.
          I am not expecting the decision to be changed just think going forward a fairer process needs to be installed 👍

    TREV · 24/06/2020 at 09:59

    MAXY the only way owners will be DISadvantaged is nons can load up costing them trades that's it Owners don't have to trade ,they already have them i wont be disadvantaged cause i can trade 2 cheats and still be in front My current 5 dee/bombers plus 2 new ones against your two new one still leaves me 300 points in front (what i was robbed of) This is fair

      Big Maxy · 24/06/2020 at 10:36

      Trev say I started, using mids only as examples
      Neale, Fyfe, Cripps, Oliver and Merrett as my 5 prem mids.
      You Started
      Neale, Fyfe, Cripps, Macrae and Steele.
      We both have to upgrade 3 more to get to full 8 prem mids. How am I saving trades?

        TREV · 24/06/2020 at 11:37

        The other way around BM I have oliver and merrett and got diddled i dont have to trade but you do if you want points from that game If our next 3 were the same black green and brown and we were content with that 8 then i rightfully gain merrett and oliver's extra points making up for robbed points as S/C agrees you want them then 2 trades Macrae and Steele gets them Not rocket science

          Big Maxy · 24/06/2020 at 12:02

          What I am saying is that you wouldn't trade Macrae and Steele for them. You would upgrade the 2 of the 3 rookies to Oliver and Merrett knowing that you will get double points (this isn't 100% the way to go).
          Having Oliver and Merrett doesn't save any trades as both examples still need to use trades to get to full prem midfield.
          Having Oliver and Merrett was a disadvantage last weekend and will also be in future for double points round.
          Not having Oliver and Merrett was an advantage last weekend and will also be in the future.
          Not sure I have explained this as best as I could but there it is.

            TREV · 24/06/2020 at 12:35

            Rookies wouldn't be enough Having Oliver and Merrett is an advantage in the return game as others wont have them scoring nothing Having those 2 saves you trades if you want the extra points and i already have them

    holty01 · 24/06/2020 at 13:03

    Hi Big Maxy. I posted something lower down the page about this. Simply, how much is a trade worth? If you load up on all these Melb and Ess players for that 1 round, you will be disadvantaged for the rest of the season as you will run out of trades.

      TREV · 24/06/2020 at 13:08

      Therefore it is a huge advantage to owners compensating for the18 round as it should be

        holty01 · 24/06/2020 at 13:35

        Exactly. The owners of these players need to be compensated in some way. If others think they can take advantage of it, it’s much easier said then done as ultimately most will be sideways trading without strengthening their team and ultimately running out of trades.

          TREV · 24/06/2020 at 13:56

          to get gawn as a capt for two rounds will cost you grundy 150 pts x2x2 = 600 pts for grundy's 300 Massive gain but it would cost 2 trades and you lose grundy;s 150 Nett gain 150 points for 2 trades Nup

      Big Maxy · 24/06/2020 at 14:31

      Hi Holty, using the 4 players you posted below, Gawn, Oliver, Petracca and Smith as examples. I would say that all 4 are legitimate upgrade targets for a full premo team, if you didn't start them.
      So I don't think their is an extra cost involved for when upgrading your team.
      Has there been a date announced for when Melb Ess play the game?

    Big Maxy · 24/06/2020 at 16:47

    Are my posts allowed yet admin?

      Lekdog · 24/06/2020 at 18:20

      Hey mate, I can't see any pending posts? Maybe make an Intense account?

TOPHAWK1 · 24/06/2020 at 09:00

Geez, the controversy continues to rage over the 18 best players scores due to the Essendon-Melbourne game postponement. I have Rivers, Bennell, BZT, and Devon Smith, as well as the following bench warmers, Dusty, Tom Green, Conroy, O'Connor, and Georgiades. So I was also seriously stretched last weekend. My first two rounds were abysmal with most of my premos under performing. However, my premos decided to fire up last week with big tonnes coming from Mc Cluggage, Macrae, Heeney, Doedee, Pittonet, Cripps, Docherty, Crisp, Sicily, and Rowell. So, if I was awarded my average score from the first two rounds, its fair to say I would have been absolutely ropable. I deserved my score of 2037 last weekend. All in all, the 18 player rule invoked last weekend was in the grand scheme of things the correct call from my position at least. I guess at the end of the day, we all have our views on the issue, but its time to get on with it. Also, for coaches who are planning to bring in Melbourne and Essendon players this week to take advantage of the double points bonus round, be careful as SC may still announce some new rules around this to nullify this strategy. Cheers. TH

    The Ranger · 24/06/2020 at 09:50

    I've read all of the commentary and I can't find a ruling that wouldn't disadvantage someone, all we're really discussing is what's the least worst option.
    What we do now know TH is that SC will use the best 18 rule if something likes this happens again.
    And there's every chance it will.

      TREV · 24/06/2020 at 10:13

      The three fantasy codes all went different best 18,projected and averages.All have flaws .With ours,the best 18, you should be compensated by having a lone crack at the postponed game i.e.no trading on the dees/cheats game

    TREV · 24/06/2020 at 10:06

    You deserved your 2037 but so did i ,and i got robbed Really the only true way was to rejig back to round 2 The system works well in BBL but for this a no trades on the dees/ bomber game is necessary preventing johnny come lately's cashing in

      holty01 · 24/06/2020 at 12:55

      Hi Trev. Was with you a few days ago on this but the more I think about it , the more I agree with best 18 and double points for Melb and Ess for that week. Yes you are right about people cashing in but how many trades are they chewing up to do this? How much is a trade actually worth? Apart from 4 players (Gawn, Oliver, Petracca and Smith) who else would you want to be in your side by seasons end? If people load up on these players, they will simply be trading them straight back out. Wasting trades to do so. Yes for those who had plenty of Melb and Ess players (I had 5) had a tough week but I’d be happier when that double points round as they don’t have to worry about using trades on players they don’t necessarily want to keep. The ones who already have them, are using their trades on the very best players. Trades are priceless and right now I’m happy I have these players as I don’t want to waste any trades.

        Big Maxy · 24/06/2020 at 13:04

        I have 4 and don't want a double points round in future as it gives a 2nd advantage for those who got an advantage last weekend

          holty01 · 24/06/2020 at 13:24

          But it is still costing them trades. For example, if you don’t have Gawn, how do you get him in? Also, if you don’t have Merrett, how do you get him in and what do you do with him after the double points round? While people ponder getting these players in, the ones that have them are strengthening their sides for seasons end. All has advantages and disadvantages. The only player I will bring into my side would be Oliver as he was one I wanted at seasons end. But if he has GWS just after that double points round, not sure if I’ll pull the trigger.

            KAT · 24/06/2020 at 16:31

            Im wondering what will happen if a player from Melbourne or Essendon was available last week ie Max Gawn but then is injured and not playing for the double points round????

        TREV · 24/06/2020 at 13:19

        i think you misunderstood me i am all for the 18 round as long as they get the extra round but with no coaches permitted to trade on that game .That's fair If you have them good luck Quite correct I have those 4 and anyone else will be traded out including viney costing 2 trades each far far too much if you chase points it costs you double trades

        Wtfoxtrot_58 · 24/06/2020 at 13:38

        Should only be double points for the people who held players in last weeks non issue.
        If i had Max last week then bought Smith, I would only get double points for Max's not Smith.

          TREV · 24/06/2020 at 13:46

          Finally an intelligent poster wont happen though but as Holty says it will cost them unnecessary trades

          holty01 · 24/06/2020 at 17:04

          That’s fine but how would you monitor that? How can SuperCoach put that into action? I doubt it would be a easy thing to put this data in place for SC to monitor. I would think you would almost have to shut Sc down for some wiz computer experts to put some encrypted codes in etc to make this happen. Seems like a lot of work. Also, do people like myself get punished as I held trades but then traded out Petracca late on Sunday but with every thought of bringing him straight back in? I think the rules have now been put in place and they can’t change it now. Do I agree with them, not 100% but we all know how it is now. If they keep changing their minds, I think it will just make things more confusing and harder.

    TRIGGA_HAPPY · 24/06/2020 at 13:55

    I do feel for the people right at the pointy end who may have a shot at this thing but most of us are just in it for fun.

    I have written a very in depth analysis of this round and the impact in a post below.

    The one that people aren't talking about is draft.
    Some of us are pretty competitive and enjoy beating our mates and quality opposition

    In draft you get 18 players but got zero if they didn't play.
    Out of my 18, 5 didnt play.
    Dusty, gawn, petracca, oliver and smith .

    That is <img draggable="false" role="img" class="emoji" alt="🍩" src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/12.0.0-1/svg/1f369.svg"><img draggable="false" role="img" class="emoji" alt="🍩" src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/12.0.0-1/svg/1f369.svg"><img draggable="false" role="img" class="emoji" alt="🍩" src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/12.0.0-1/svg/1f369.svg"><img draggable="false" role="img" class="emoji" alt="🍩" src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/12.0.0-1/svg/1f369.svg"><img draggable="false" role="img" class="emoji" alt="🍩" src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/12.0.0-1/svg/1f369.svg"&gt;

    Anymore and I would able to open my own shop!

    But you take your medicine and move on…

    Rd 4 awaits….

      Shake n bake · 24/06/2020 at 14:12

      Just a quick one Trigg, any particular team you like to win against above most??

        TRIGGA_HAPPY · 24/06/2020 at 14:21

        You re always in the gun shake!

        It's always good to beat anyone of you guys as you are so good at this game.

        Not being able to take the bunnies on at full strength stung.

        After another gun mid or defender – pittonet up for trade lads

        Hit me up.

          Shake n bake · 24/06/2020 at 16:05

          Haha like you said so many good players!

      Russty_ · 24/06/2020 at 14:46

      Last week I got about 1230 in one of my trade sides and Gator beat me by about 5 points LOL, mega-shafted! Normally I'm 500 points better than that, but thanks to their dodgy testing, anyhoo enough whining..onwards and upwards!

TelescopicCox · 24/06/2020 at 09:15

What would be a better option community? Bringing in Pitto for R3 duties, noting that I've already missed 2 monster scores and an $80K increase, or bringing in Fort and hoping he can average around 90. Fort would be on my field at F5

    Russty_ · 24/06/2020 at 14:49

    Pitto for R3 or R2 duties I reckon…he's out averaging Grundy

      TREV · 24/06/2020 at 15:28

      done it russty grundy to pitto gives me a complete forward line next week

Jorg Ancrath · 24/06/2020 at 10:14

Why did Connor have to do me like that. I thought he was my bae, then he drops a filthy, steaming 30 on me. Now I don't know where I stand. So confused and hurt. Hold me, Rozeeeeee.

    Russty_ · 24/06/2020 at 11:58

    It was very disappointing after his 2 starting scores, it was wet though, the worry is, he wasn't in the middle much, also he got kicked in the face so that probs shook him up a bit. He barely got to 30 in the last quarter, I thought he was gonna end up on 15 or so lol, I'm hoping he bounces back strong this week.

      TREV · 24/06/2020 at 12:03

      He's only young Russty ,Even Rowell will drop a stinker ,I think

    TRIGGA_HAPPY · 24/06/2020 at 13:19

    Think wines return impacted Rozee.

      derek · 24/06/2020 at 13:55

      and a fit Ebert.

Willymack1234 · 24/06/2020 at 11:22

To trade or keep Yeo? Looks to be not 100%

    Loop · 24/06/2020 at 11:55

    Sore shoulder I think.

    Russty_ · 24/06/2020 at 12:01

    He had a crap start last year too Willy, check last year's scores, he got into gear after that with plenty of tons.

Shake n bake · 24/06/2020 at 13:09

Only Collingwood change Cox in for Cameron

    Russty_ · 24/06/2020 at 14:47

    Saw that one coming, Cameron becomes dead weight now.

      TREV · 24/06/2020 at 15:25

      good loop now Russty

        Russty_ · 24/06/2020 at 16:08

        Yeah true Trev if they didn't have Xerri, kinda glad I didn't get him now, Rankine might be ready soon for the fwd line, Cavarra too, not sure if he gets in though.

    AuroraBorealis?! · 24/06/2020 at 16:05

    No treloar Shake? Thats a shock

      Shake n bake · 24/06/2020 at 16:27

      He said he’s ready to go didn’t join in the main group today. So think he’ll be overlooked for 1 more week.

        Russty_ · 24/06/2020 at 16:57

        I read they were still being cautious with him.

TRIGGA_HAPPY · 24/06/2020 at 13:17

COVID 19 positive test in AFL and the resulting impact on supercoach scores in 2020.

Refer below.

Luck is defined as :

"The events or circumstances that operate for or against an individual"

Here in endith the lesson..

That is all…

    Lekdog · 24/06/2020 at 18:21

    Agreed Trigga

      Paul · 25/06/2020 at 15:59

      agreed Trigga.
      I'm not filthy with the decision, they're in a damn hard spot, i'm just gutted. I was 420 overall, had 6 on field dees / dons and i'm now around the 11k mark. Season over. The circumstances operated well and truly against me, not filthy, just gutted.

        Lekdog · 25/06/2020 at 16:17

        I feel ya Paul, that would be awful!

FearTheBeard · 24/06/2020 at 13:24

Whitfield out for Fyfe (swing Budarick onto field?)

HOLD?

    FearTheBeard · 24/06/2020 at 13:25

    Or Walters and upgrade Strut to Doedee and swing Brander down?

    TRIGGA_HAPPY · 24/06/2020 at 13:37

    Pretty simple are you after cash or points fear?

    If points just have to ask yourself one simple question.

    Do you think whitfield and ? will outscore Fyfe and budarick until it becomes time to upgrade budarick?

DEESNUTSRBIG · 24/06/2020 at 16:03

How about:
If you trade Melbourne and Essendon players in from this round on you don't get the points from the Ess/Melb game played later in the year?
Original owners of Melb/Ess players need a chance to use the score from the players they had that missed the game (whether they have since been traded out or are injured etc) in some form – many suggestions have already been listed.

    Lekdog · 24/06/2020 at 18:22

    Don't know that the actual system will allow for it, not the worst idea

    Billioux · 24/06/2020 at 20:44

    No, dont like it. Harley legit upgrade this round, also Gawn upgrade normal trade. Should not b double points. Simply take best score from the melb/ess double up. Ie Gawn goes 110 and 190. You get the 190.

Shake n bake · 24/06/2020 at 16:08

So pies and cats off to Perth 🙁

    TOPHAWK1 · 24/06/2020 at 16:48

    I like it!! We will make them feel right at home here in sunny Perth! 😎😎

      Russty_ · 24/06/2020 at 16:55

      Yeah right, at least they'll be able to play in front of people here and not cardboard people and crowd laugh tracks 🙂

        TOPHAWK1 · 24/06/2020 at 17:14

        They will cop plenty of flak when they are here Russty. All in good jest though. Looking forward to it!

      Shake n bake · 24/06/2020 at 16:59

      Play you twice this week Hawk!

        TOPHAWK1 · 24/06/2020 at 17:15

        Should be a great battle Shake. Bring it on!!

          Shake n bake · 24/06/2020 at 18:27

          Watch out!!

Binga · 24/06/2020 at 16:28

Thoughts pls guys on Travis Boak and Nick Haynes in for Josh Kelly and Lachie Whitfield?

Cheers Binga

    Russty_ · 24/06/2020 at 16:57

    I think both the Giants boys are good to go Binga..I'm gonna hold on Whitfield so he can earn his money back.

    TREV · 24/06/2020 at 17:08

    Why the heck would you do that?

    TOPHAWK1 · 24/06/2020 at 17:16

    No, not a great idea. Sideways trades those. Whitfield and Kelly are too good to stay down for long. Give them a chance.

      Binga · 24/06/2020 at 17:50

      Kelly has injury history and Whitfield will fall in price big time… I have got plans in place to bring him back in don't u worry about that.. This season has already been a crazy 1 why not take risks… Kelly breakeven 160 so why not get Boak who is averaging 130 odd and Haynes who will go close to top 6 come season end.

      Any more thoughts will be considered… if u wanna see my team search up DRSC CHAINSAW FC.

      Cheers Binga

        TREV · 24/06/2020 at 18:00

        You have a point but trades are still super valuable Most coaches will have 13 to 14 keepers and maybe Rowell so we need 14 trades there plus injuries and finals / Not a lot of riggle room

          Binga · 24/06/2020 at 18:05

          My keepers at this point from my team will be Howe, Haynes, Docherty, Neale, Cripps, Macrae,Boak,Danger, Rowell, Grundy, Gawn, Ablett, Gresham and Dev Smith…

          What do u think of these keepers??

          Cheers Binga

            Billioux · 24/06/2020 at 20:45

            Whitfield is top 6 , so his price is not relevant. Hold him if plays this week.

Mitch is Back · 24/06/2020 at 17:38

Thoughts on Grundy to Pittonet.

Both are averaging about the same (132 v 136), and Pittonet is $400k cheaper. Next week the gap will be around $300k, so it now or never.

In a season where getting to full premo is going to be extremely difficult, the $400k saving would be significant.

    TREV · 24/06/2020 at 18:07

    It's a totally different season and normally I wouldn't remotely consider it but I bet some will particularly when you can get him back easily. I have done it for ceglar and Pitto Next week easily get Petracca. .Just too much coin to ignore

    Joe_T · 24/06/2020 at 18:11

    Massive risk/reward situation, if you do it you're pretty much saying goodbye to Grundy for the whole season. Or hoping he has a bad patch of scores and drops in price so you can trade him in later.

    Personally I wouldn't do it – there's a reason Grundy Grundy consistently finishes in the top scorers every season.

      derek · 24/06/2020 at 18:26

      rucks are scoring massive this year. Grundy could end up averaging 140+

Trevor · 24/06/2020 at 17:43

Gee Whiz there are some massive sooks hanging araound here this week.
Supercoach decided it was best 18 and that's it.
The only fairer option was to void the whole round.
Those claiming giving averages would be fairer actually mean it would be better for them. Giving averages after 2 games is not fair, have a look how many players with 100+ averages after 2 games failed to ton up in round 3.
The only time that awarding averages as the score would be slightly fair is the last game of the year and even then it would be massively unfair. Speculative scores is never a fair option.
Next thing you know you'll be calling for players who miss games due to injury or suspension and late outs to be granted their averages. If you don't score you dont score its pretty simple really.

Pick up dummies and climb back into the cot you whingers.

    Russty_ · 24/06/2020 at 18:14

    I had 1 Bomber and 2 Dees and ended up with a shit score compared to other teams so I didn't benefit from not having many dees or bombers, it was my other players who were to blame for my crap score.
    I got 1885 and if teams with 6 or 7 dees/bombers all get double points that's gonna be a pretty huge leg up there.
    I'm not having a go at anyone but I am getting sick of hearing about it for days on end, time to move on.
    The end

Russty_ · 24/06/2020 at 18:20

Better to get Petracca into the fwd line or Butler, for Long ?
Petracca = $11k in bank
Butler = 125k in bank
Are either of them keepers?…I don't know

    derek · 24/06/2020 at 18:24

    when in doubt, get the bloke who plays in the guts

      Russty_ · 24/06/2020 at 18:40

      Good point, just hope he's staying there.

    TRIGGA_HAPPY · 24/06/2020 at 18:30

    At the moment I think will give long.one more chance but the finger is itchy.

      Russty_ · 24/06/2020 at 18:41

      I don't think I can take another one of his shite scores Trig, Butler is tempting too but can he keep up his hot start?

    TREV · 24/06/2020 at 18:57

    Hi Russty With the forwards i think both can make it 90 to 95 av. would get you to F6 but ones a proven high ceiling player,Petracca. My forwards are complete Whitfield Martin Smith Ceglar Rozee and Tracca. Now the rest

    holty01 · 24/06/2020 at 20:14

    At the beginning of the year I’d say neither. I also bagged people who thought of starting Petracca as he always promises so much but never delivers. After round 1, still wasn’t interested. After round 2 however, I had to bring him in. He just looks very good and will admit I got it wrong this year. Petracca for me mate.

      Russty_ · 24/06/2020 at 20:19

      Thanks Holty and Trev, it might be the year where he finally does live up to his potential and becomes a keeper, I think I trust him more than Butler, just leaves me skint is all.

derek · 24/06/2020 at 18:31

Sinclair and Naismith both named. not going near Naismith now.

    Russty_ · 24/06/2020 at 18:36

    And Mclean!…all 3 of em, are you getting Pittonet now Derek?

Maverick_ · 24/06/2020 at 20:15

Sympkin the solution for Dunkley?
480k is tempting. Could swing him forward at a later date should finish top 4-6 forward.

    Russty_ · 24/06/2020 at 20:21

    I would if I had Dunks Mav, Simpkin's flying and could still get to 550k

      Maverick_ · 24/06/2020 at 21:22

      I don't have the big three in Neale, Fyfe and Macrae but in a pretty sh*tful year I think I'm willing to risk it and just have a bit of fun from here on Mate.

      JM! · 25/06/2020 at 01:02

      do u think he can be a top 6 forward? Surely his average dips, but It would seem like a yes for top 6…

    Box · 25/06/2020 at 12:37

    Don't trust Sympkin keeping up the scoring once Cunnington comes back in,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

      Maverick_ · 25/06/2020 at 12:55

      He's posted scores of 130 & 105 with cunners in the side…

Binga · 24/06/2020 at 23:09

I’ve had some new thoughts Whitfield and Gould out Haynes and Hamill in? What do you think of these new trades? Cheers Binga

    dontblushbaby · 24/06/2020 at 23:19

    If Whitfield is named and starts I will not trading contrary to my previous thoughts

JM! · 25/06/2020 at 00:59

What to do with Houston. Currently D3. Trade to Ridley/Short/Clark or hold? I have been hoping for time in the middle…which has not materialised.

Nick · 25/06/2020 at 19:14

What do with Houston and Sturt????

Option 1
Houston to Hill, Sturt to Walters/Henry/Simpkin

Option 2
Houston to Lloyd, Sturt to Rankine (should I jump the gun on rankin? He’s off the injury list and should be ready to go next week)

Option 3
Houston to Maynard (avg 115), Sturt to Partitt (avg 115)

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