EMERGENCY PODCAST | Coronavirus impact on Supercoach
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EMERGENCY PODCAST! With only 17 rounds of AFL, how will Supercoach be impacted?
Lekdog and Patch discuss how trading and lockout might work.
The boys also touch on potential changes to the Supercoach rules, how a reduced season might mean higher averages and why Nic Nat is a BLOODY LOCK!
What do you think community? Any impacts from today’s announcement on your mind?
About to listen, that your team Lek?
That's my team!
3 trades per round?
That's what I'd do, who knows what a round looks like though
Would starting both jacobs & naismith be in any way viable?
ABSOLUTELY but you need to make up the 130 points you're missing by upgrading rookies to underpriced guys
Grundy is my 1st picked player. Whether we have 100 trades, or 1 trade, or any number in between.
I think the winner of SC will be whoever can adapt the best. I reckon alot of people will go too far with their strategy though.
So, we definitely want players with high kicking efficiency and tackle numbers
Off footy, on topic.
I was off work crook (cold/flu symptoms) from Tuesday til Friday last week, doc didn't test me for corona because of low risk where I live and any contacts I've had.
My employer (big company) called me Friday arvo and said I needed to see doc and get a return to work clearance before I could return, so I had to take another sick day today and go to the doc.
He refused to write me the clearance, rang my work and said he had government advice that this was unnecassery for normal cases of sickness as it would clog the clinics and genuine sick people would not get seen to.
My employer argued that it must be done and he told them to call the Department of Health, then he told me to get my fee for today reimbursed from work because it wasn't needed.
Work called me a few hours later and gave me the green light to go back tomorrow.
Not saying it's not serious, but he also said that people my age are generally not at to much risk and would be elderly and pre existing conditions that will get hit harder, most people will have mild flu symptoms.
Anyway hope the footy starts soon and people stop panic buying, i have 4 kids here and couldn't find any bog rolls and bugger all food today.
I know mate it bloody ridiculous, the morons panic buying are ruining any chance of non panic merchants being able to buy normal stuff, I'm in the Southwest of W.A and haven't been able to buy any toilet paper, tissues, paper towel for weeks, and now it's more and more food products every day, idiots just need to calm down.
Those Brisbane Scientists / Professors have already pretty much found a cure, they just need the funding and time to get it all tested and distributed, could be within a month or 2 if the Govt does the right thing and funds them with whatever they need.
A cure isn’t a vaccine unfortunately.. but still positive
I’m hearing 22 trades fellas.
What makes NicNat a lock now? Are the quarters shortened?
Reduced trades and larger list is what I'm expecting.
I remember when we had 17 teams (1 bye each week) we had a list of 33 to choose from. If teams have bigger lists, I think we do too.
Word is quarters will be 16 minutes
Breaking News!!! Scott Pendlebury of the Collingwood Football Club has gone into self-isolation with flu like symptoms!
Wow! Just wow! Don’t pick any Collingwood players fellas! Or players that play early against Collingwood….Or players that play those teams that play Collingwood early…..So, who are we left with? Anyone reckon Swallow can average 105+?
I think he has been in self quarantine for at least 3 days now.
The season can’t run into December. Half way through October is as far as they can go.
The G is contracted to the cricket from mid October so there's not much wriggle room
Just don't used the G past October then. The season has already become more 'fair' by everyone playing each other once, how about going further and allowing the top team to have home ground advantage for the GF. If it's a Melbourne team, Marvel Stadium.
It won't be the same not having the GF at the G, but this season can't possibly remain the same.
Crazy times. A positive, no byes? as such
If every round is a bye, then no round is.
What did this mean for 18 team leagues?
Do game days start at round 1 or round 3?
Would have to be round 1. Be like premier league. No finals, just minor premier I would imagine
Would think so
Press release from herald sun with heading:
"How 17 game season will affect supercoach"?
Article content-supercoach will continue.
Thanks for that!
How about giving us something we can USE!!! 😬
Cause they expect you to fork out for everything…even Coronavirus news.
Assumption is AFL want to start Thursday. Too much already in place. Then phase out with networks, sponsors, clubs etc after a month.
If I was the players I'd want to postpone the season and go straight through from May. Stop-start would benefit nobody.
Curveball: Coronavirus is supposed to be at its worst for Oz in May. So 4 games then a break could mean they try to return when things are much worse than now. Still no crowds etc. Would be a shamozzle.
They have to start the season now or risk not having enough time to have the season at all. While they are still able to have games they will have games. The season will be postponed when it needs to be, most likely during May when the virus is at its peak. The season will be a “shamozzle” anyway, but at least this way we should get a season.
Yassss
Will Sicily be used as a forward at times like last season? Or will he be used purely as a defender?
The hawks now have Lewis and Patton along with Gunston up forward. Plus, once BigBoy gets back in the ruck, there will be Ceglar. Plenty of talks up forward
Thanks Derek. Sicily locked in.
I can't help bit worry that one or two injuries and he'll be back forward
Birch an option if it goes to shorter quarters.
Time to throw out or at least rethink your loophole too as wont know who plays when after rd 4! 🙉
Might be Cameron on the bench to cover Grundy. Maybe more of a chance to play anyway if they cram 3 games in 2 weeks and need to give Grundy a rest
Actually I was thinking of a radical plan that would involve:
Grundy R1
NicNat R2
Cameron R3
Williams D7
Brander F7
Obviously, Cameron could back up Grundy but would it be possible (without using trades) for Williams to backup NicNat?
Could you (in theory) sub Cameron from R to F, Brander from F to B & Williams from B to R?
If only Williams was F/R (like he actually is) instead of the useless B/R
You can I believe.
Trade Williams out, trade in X.
Trade out Cameron, trade in Williams.
Trade out Brander, trade in Cameron.
Trade out X, trade in Brander.
Suggest you test it after R1 and before R2 lockout. Net result should be 0 trades used as you still have the same players you started with. Reverse trades if it doesn't work. I've never been game to do it after lockout but advised someone else and they said it worked after lockout. No guarantees it still works.
Genius David, ill give it a go
This didn’t work the year Blicavs was mid/ruck. Had planned for exactly that scenario and no dice.
They may have updated the algorithm since, because should be able to shuffle multiple DPPs.
Not that I'll probably need it after tomorrow but here's the 14348th version of my team for this season…I'm pretty happy with it, cash in the coffers is $3300 and a prediction of 1932.
Laird, Houston, Doch, Roberton, Noble, Brander –Williams, Gould
Macrae, Neale, Cripps, Coniglio, McCluggage, Rowell, Ash, Pickett –Robertson, Mahony, Budarick
Grundy, Jacobs — Comben
Whitfield, D.Martin, Rozee, Steven, D.Smith, Rankine — Taylor, Cameron
Nice team Russty! When will Mumford be back? I've gone for Nic Nat myself.
Cheers Ando..yeah Nicnat could definitely pay off for you, don't think Mummy will get much of a look in this season, GWS would be looking to get the most out of Sauce I think with his remaining years.
Thanks Neil, team wasn't far from this before the announcement, changes made were…
Sicily to Houston, Young to Roberton, Bont to Cogs and Starcevich to Ash.
It's gonna be a weird season…hopefully from here, we'll still have something to salvage.
I’m going very similar
Only real diff is I have Sicily and you have Rozee
I thought defence was about more predictable
Good team
Going to be tough to finish full premo this year I think.
You're not wrong Holty, if it lasts, this season will be about who dances the best with who they brung, how well the value players we pick step up and how durable they are…also how well those more expensive rookies perform will be a big factor too, maybe allowing us to hang onto them a bit longer because they're earning their keep, rather than making us want to cash them in asap.
I'm all Leagued up Holty but thanks anyway mate.
Hey holty let me know if there is a spot free I’d be happy to jump in if you don’t mind
Go for it mate.
I think the idea will still be the get to full premo….It's just the definition of a premium has broadened now
Not a bad team Lek! Think you could drop one of those mids for a defender though, doubt Gould or McLennan play.
In light of the reduced season I will likely get a couple of value midfielders to bolster defence but thanks!
So with these changes does this mean we need to bank on more midpricers and loook for more value? For example Petracca instead of dusty and Cogs/Mcbags instead of fyfe/Danger?
I think most are looking at it this way Tommy. I’m the opposite. I won’t be mucking around with this though. Don’t think there is enough trades for any corrections this year
Other than the fact theres no byes everything else that you said is not factual. Everything is all speculation right now so i'm not sure you can be that definitive. This is a very unique period of time right now so i don't think anyone really knows whats going to happen in regards to supercoach.
Houli out calf
Ugh, another one of my Draft backline bites the dust
Probably just worried 🤔😷
Actually Shake it was probably just a joke but you make a very good point.
Of course the players would be concerned (like the rest of us) but at the moment if they want to still play, I can guarantee it's because they want to be paid. (Which is fair enough, I only go to work for money)
But, during the season are we going to see loads of players say they're sick or injured because they don't want to play, but still want to be paid?
Bit hostile there mate, no need for any name calling…I would've thought if they're reducing the games in the regular season by almost a quarter, wouldn't the trades have to match that? I'm guessing 22 or 23
Agree with Russty. If you are reducing the games but making the turnover between games shorter, the most sensible thing to do would be less trades, but an extra rookie per line. (And slight increase of cap to match)
Remember in Gold Coast 1st season we were given a list of 33 and $11,000,000 salary due to their being a bye each week. I think with the uncertainty of players missing games, this would be a sensible move.
Agree the trades could be reduced though.
All i know is sc is far more flexible than AFL in general. They may make changes, they may even be downright borderline unfair, but there will be a season and we all have to be prepared for big changes. We will know more in an hour or so. Good luck, good health, and all the best finding toiletnpaper everyone. Jess xx
I'm down to my last twin pack of Handee Ultras Jess Lol
1 roll and none within at least 200km.
No idea what to do
I guess it's like the old days, a washcloth and a bucket of water
I went into meltdown last night and changed my team till it was sadly unrecognisable from the one i had spent so long planning. I've now calmed down and changed it basically back to what i was. Think we back what we previously had planned, and maybe add one so midpricers or 250kish players in. But thats all. Depending on what we are faced with i will trade aggressively and still think we will get close enough to full premium fast. Im still backing in a basically g&r team.
What does everyone else think?
I haven't changed mine for a whole week and will only change for rookie availability. I have 8 premos, 6 mid priced players that could become keepers and 8 rookies on field. I'm not too worried anymore since I don't expect the season will be completed.
Hi John
Lek And patch’s rabble 996688.
Join if your keen
Hi Jess
Lek And patch’s rabble 996688.
Join if your keen
I reckon just go with your gut.
Still tossing up between gawn or Neale.
Depends what rookies get a gig.
Either way good to go – just hope the competition feels the same! <img draggable="false" role="img" class="emoji" alt="🙊" src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/12.0.0-1/svg/1f64a.svg">
English, Naismith viable? I’m freaking out hhaha
AFL Players association Paul Marsh has just said in a press conference that the players want a 22 game season.. More on channel 7 news tonight
Said they will make a call tomorrow if the season starts Thursday
Also said the players rejected a 17 game season
tuff times Neil 🙁
I think the Dees will battle to win 3 games all year
i Hope so mate. They were good to watch 2 years ago
Is Derek in Lek&Patch's Rabble, Holty
I thought I was.
Now I’m not. Now I’ve got a spare league
Join back in mate.
Thanks Holty , But i'm already in
Is trigga in the league holty
Loved gawnys little dig at May and Lever. 👏
Don’t forget what happened last year vs Saints brutha
He's just shit stirring Jeff, Neil knows the mighty Saints will destroy the Dees this year lol
Good on them, it is the media that is causing panic and blowing this out of proportion.
These kinds of lock downs are unprecedented since WW2.
Really clever by the players to jump on the comment "if the season has to run over 40.weeks then that is what we will do"
Players simple but clever response:
Why can't we play 22 games over 40 weeks therefore limiting the pay cuts?
Forehand smash.
Your serve AFL……
I think it will backfire on them…not a good look to be haggling over money whilst all over the world, people are dying.
Panic mode ON <img src="https://tinyurl.com/yxbbsslm" width="1"/><img src="https://tinyurl.com/wwct4y8" width="1"/>
I'm flip flopping between starting Gawn or not. It's either Gawn and Starcevich or Nic Nat and Sicily. I'm leaning towards the latter. Thoughts?
On face value, you'd think Nic Nat and sicily would average higher. Although just a thought, since we don't know the structure of how the games will be played later in the season if theres a lengthy layoff, if they start having to cram games in i can't see Nic Nat playing off a 4-5 day break, whereas you'd think as skipper Gawn would.
Thanks Tommy, that's certainly something to consider.
Thoughts on TMitch? If it's a shortened season, shorter games, he's a guy who will rack up possessions. Only needs half a game to ton up and less chance he tires end of year.
Good point Jorg, more resting time for his leg, and he does score quickly.
BeveridgeFC (Anthony). I just dropped you from my league as your team hadn’t been completed. You were in my league Lek and Patch’s rabble last year so would be good to keep you onboard. If your still keen, let me know and I’ll make some room.
Hey Holty do you know who he is on here..does he post on here?
He's in my JR Megaleague too and I don't remember him being there last year
He joined my league when I sent the email out to all who were in my league last year. Not sure who it is though.
The way things are escalating, I can't really see the season going ahead mate, hope I'm wrong but it's not looking very good.
Should delay it 5 weeks. Based on China model, which youd assume will be bettered here, cases will be negligible in a month or so.
I thought I had my team was set and never to touch it before the season starts. Went a panic more and my team has changed a million times in the past 5 days.
I think I'm happy with this set up, with 184K in the bank left gives me some room for an upgrade later on.
Laird, Ryan, Doc
Roberton, Bzerk, Noble
Williams, Gould
Macrea, Neale, Cripps, TKelly(Titch)
Coniglio, Rowell, Green, Pickett
Robertson, Mahony, Budeerick
Grundy, Sauce Xerri
Whitfield, McPherson, Steven
Smith, Schultz, Brander
Rankine, Cameron
Good luck all and stay safe.
Nic Nat No – If they are compacting game schedule he'll miss 1 in every three games IMO.
"….and hopefully it bones Collingwood somehow."
Hahahahaha ! Something most of us can agree on.
My new team:
Houston, Crisp, Docherty, Noble, BZerk, Young (Brander, Williams).
Cripps, Mitchell, Dunkley, Yeo Conigilio, McCluggage, Rowell, Pickett (Robertson, Starcevich, Budarick).
Grundy, Naismith (Cameron)
Macpherson, Petracca, Brayshaw, Stevens, Smith, Taylor (King,
Nice Jorg…fwd line could backfire a bit though, only change I'd suggest would be to get at least 1 premo in your fwd line maybe at the expense of Yeo but hey!…who knows this year 🙂
Any cash left? Naismith might fark you up, Sauce a better option IMO. I don't think Stevens is fit (he might have a virus) so you might have to rearrange your fwds. Not sure you need 3 high priced rookies in defence, you could easily free up some cash there too.
My strategy is based on cash generation being out the window. No one will get full keen I in 17 rounds, so we'll need mid pricers. But if Stevens is out I'll probably run one rookie deeper and possibly upgrade Naismith. Yeo I'm very bullish on. Will average 115 imo.
Yeo is.a gun, al little up and down. He is very tempting at his price.
J Stevens most likely out if games go ahead this week
Hmmm wonder if that's a sign of things to come.
Is ruled out now Russty. He wasn’t in my side to start with. But sure will have a lot of teams change things up now.
Yeah Shake, I saw that, I had to dump Ash for Green and Steven for Brayshaw, I didn't really wanna go there with Brayshaw this year..anyways, all depends on the zombie apocalypse I guess.
T Brown Green will debut if games go ahead
All the colours of the 🌈
Brown gets his chance with trealor out. He’ll turn out to be a good player. If he keeps his spot will be another thing. but l know the pies want to bat deeper in the mids. He’ll be a main stay 1 day.
What are our thoughts on dev smith and brayshaw vs clarry and a rookie
I'm a bit late getting set up this year. Anyone have spare league spots that I can join? Going to be interesting to see how this season pans out..
Amongst all the confusion and anxiety the COVID-19 has created I don't think anybody has realised something staring straight at us, but….
Surely Lekdogs Team Reveal deserved its own post!
Any league codes I can join, been overseas for 2 weeks, now on bloody self isolation!!
Spuds R us (324896) should be a tight comp
thanks have joined 007 Golden Guns is my team i usually finish top 1%
Its on!
Yay!…hope it lasts 🙂
Me 2 Russty
Great news! If they can only have less than 100 people at an indoor event would that mean games at Marvel must be with the roof open? I'm thinking 22 per team is almost half that already, then you would add in coaches, trainers, physio's, umpires, cameramen, journos etc
It says it's still 30 trades and no bye rounds, but it could change.
You beauty!! Time to finalize my team! Its time for some serious midpricer madness!
Few mid priced players to get a gig in my team to.
Hi Neil,
We are now looking at 16 minute quarters, a reduced round season, an ongoing rookie drought, and uncertainties galore because of the Coronavirus. I reckon midpricers have to be seriously considered now. Having too many rooks makes no sense now, as many wont get a gig. And even if they do, there will not be enough rounds for them to turn into plump lambs to cull. Just my take NDD. Cheers. TH
Woo hoo!
Just trying to fill up our league guys. Three of us are regularly in the top 1000-2000 overall. Spuds R us (324896) cheers
Any room still? Was 700 2 years ago, then about 5k last year
I jumped in. Team is MyBuddyGresh
Shoutout to No Dunks Inc
Jumped in thanks. bck2pp
Macpherson or Greenwood ?
Tough one you could get either
I like Macpherson's chances of getting near a ton average, being young and hopefully in the mids, Greenwood is 27 now and never really went to the next level.
Great podcast lads! Crazy to think the season is starting tomorrow night now. Thought I might as well get some of the community's wisdom on my team since my preseason research has been lacking this year. Rookies are subject to teams tomorrow
My team is currently:
DEF: Lloyd, Laird, Docherty, Zerk-Thatcher, Starcevich, Gould (Bianco, Rivers)
MID: Macrae, Cripps, Oliver, Parker, Coniglio, Rowell, Green, Pickett (McHenry, Robertson, Budarick)
RUCK: Grundy, Gawn (D.Cameron)
FWD: Whitfield, Martin, Steven, Smith, Brander, Georgiades (King, Rankine)
$10,000 in the bank
Also 178438 is a league code that is somewhat competitive open for anyone to join.
Thoughts on my team would be appreciated
Steven likely to miss R1.
Nice GNR team Danners. Scratch Jack Steven. Will not play round 1. I am going with a more mid pricer team strategy in 2020. See my comments in the Shake and Bake post. Hope it helps. Good luck mate! TH
Roberton vs Noble for D4 ??
Roberton for me
John Noble if you had to take one. Roberton is high risk with his heart condition.
Macpherson or Greenwood ? I couldn't help Pieman out so hopefully uses can
WHY IS NO ONE GETTING GAWN
Please don't yell.
i mentioned it once, but i thought i got away with it
If we indeed keep the 30 trades I am looking at going even more guns and rookies than ever before. Whats the point of going a team full of midpricers when all you will be doing is unsuccessfully shuffling your mids around. My thoughts are to start. My guns and rookies setup team hasnt changed.
My prediction is dusty won’t play to his usual standard without a crowd.. I feel his one of those blokes that performs on the big stage and from the adrenaline.. no crowds no dusty for me
agreed fuels off crowd
and Danger
Great point Derek.. yeo or gaff come back into consideration now to replace danger
Now SC have said impact players will score more than your accumulators I might need a reshuffle to give dusty a guernsey again the ultimate impact player can turn a game on its head in 15 minutes .