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Marnus LabaShagMe


James Sicily $509,500
Dan Houston $484,800
Sam Docherty $436,100
Stephen Hill $190,600
Hayden Young $180,300
Will Gould $117,300

Jez McLennan $123,900
Trent Rivers $117,300


Jack Macrae $668,900
Patrick Cripps $635,900
Josh Dunkley $632,400
Patrick Dangerfield $625,500
Clayton Oliver $593,900
Matthew Rowell $207,300
Marlion Pickett $123,900
Jackson Mead $117,300

Harry Schoenberg $117,300
Deven Robertson $117,300
Mitchell Hibberd $114,400


Brodie Grundy $705,900
Max Gawn $697,100

Bigoa Nyuon $117,300


Lachie Whitfield $604,100
Dustin Martin $543,000
Jack Steven $361,700
Devon Smith $335,800
Izak Rankine $123,900
Jarrod Brander $133,000

Tom Hutchesson $117,300
Max King $123,900


whats your projected score with this team?


Projections are garbage anyway


$4,600 remaining.


James Sicily $509,500
Dan Houston $484,800
Sam Docherty $436,100
Hayden Young $180,300
Brandon Starcevich $147,700
Trent Bianco $117,300

Trent Rivers [E] $117,300
Will Gould $117,300


Jack Macrae $668,900
Josh Kelly $637,700
Patrick Cripps [V] $635,900
Josh Dunkley $632,400
Clayton Oliver $593,900
Matthew Rowell $207,300
Ned McHenry $123,900
Marlion Pickett $123,900

Sam Simpson $123,900
Deven Robertson $117,300
Jackson Mead $117,300


Brodie Grundy [C] $705,900
Charlie Comben $117,300

Max Gawn [E] $697,100


Lachie Whitfield $604,100
Dustin Martin $543,000
Isaac Heeney $510,700
Stephen Hill $190,600
Sam Flanders $162,300
Lachlan Hosie $123,900

Izak Rankine [E] $123,900
Max King $123,900

Questions on F5 and slight change with switching Neale to Jelly, with greater risk/reward and more cash for rookie picks at D5/F5.


If J Kelly has no injury complaints (literally not even a niggle), then I'd take him over Neale every day of the week. Take out R23 against the Tigers, Hardwick let Neale run amuck and get 51 disposals… they had other focuses and the Tigers won the game as a result.

My stance can be controversial, but it looked like teams had Neale figured out a little bit by 2019 season's end and also it's nice to have a Rolls-Royce like Kelly who you know doesn't need to accumulate the ball Champion Data gifts him the contested points <3

The Ranger

Really wanna put Kelly in but I can't get past the injury risk. Def a top six mid if he plays every game methinks.


Just not resilient enough, superstar when everything is ok with him but how often does that happen


Thanks for the stats champ, didn’t know that; try to be a bit less hostile in your response though – I’m always open to being wrong. I only noted that his scores had greater deviation in the second half of the season.

You do conveniently start from Rd 15 though… because Rd 14 was a score of 79? And as I noted, the 190 in Rd 23 saved the average. Otherwise from Rd 10 onwards, he averaged 113.92.

Without that 190, he averaged 107.58 from Rd 10 onwards.


Running $100 & $200 cash leagues this year for the 2nd year running. Email [email protected] and I'll add you into the Facebook groups!
Good luck for the 2020 season!

The Ranger

Lloyd Williams Doch + rooks
Macrae Fyfe Cripps Oliver T.Kelly Cogs Rowell + rooks
Sauce English
Whitfield Dusty Stevens D.Smith Rankine + rooks
185K left with rooks at the 123K/117K mark.

Madness eh?
Prob end up back with Grawndy but it's a nice team to look at in January.

The Ranger

It looks like there's value to be had there eh NDD?
New club, bloody good midfield to tap it to, maybe he needed a kick up the arse to get back into top nick?
He's a good tap ruckman but maybe his legs are gone?
Just toying with the idea at the moment, trying to find a way to get a faster start than the last few years and six mid keepers is tempting,


I noticed that Cripps had some pretty serious strapping on his left knee at training already!


FozDaddy FC Take 10 (already!)




(M. King)

$393k to play with, want an extra Fwd premium but none jumping out as must haves at their price, and I wouldn't mind another Mid premium, however waiting for some practice games to see who's going to be the must have sub-550k player

Will be making plenty of JRC leagues for people to join, I'll post codes once SuperCoach is officially open!

– FozDaddy


Not worried about Fyfe's comments about letting the young guys do the heavy work in the midfield? Bonar at F3 looks a bit weak.


If you wish to strengthen the forward line i would change cockatoo to the mid price of your choice. Regarding Fyfe's comments, I think that they may strengthen Fyfe's ability to score as Fremantle have points available to find when and if they function at a greater level. Doesn't mean he will jump to a 130 player but should maintain.


SC is open.

The Wyld One

Z. Williams, J. Dawson, S.Docherty
T.Doedee, H. Young, W. Gould
J.Crocker, L.Towey

J. Macrae, N.Fyfe, P. Cripps, P. Dangerfield
J. Steven, M.Rowell, M.Pickett, M.Hibberd
N.Cockatoo, L.Valente, H.Schoenberg

B.Grundy, M.Gawn

L.Whitfield, D.Martin, D.Smith
R.West, S.Hill, I.Rankine
A.Bonar, S.Flanders

54,100 left. Really struggling with backline rookies and a few mid rookie spots are still up for grabs. Rhylee West is one of those speculative picks and I hope he can back it up in the preseason comp.

Mike Lowrey

B – Williams, Houston, Docherty, Doedee, Hill, Williamson (Worrell Gould)
M – Fyfe, Cripps, Dunkley, Danger, T.Kelly, Rowell, Flanders, Pickett (McHenry, Schoenberg, Valente)
R – Grundy, Gawn (Comben)
F – Whitfield, Marin, D.Smith, Bonar, Rankine, M.King (Davis, D.Cameron)

Watch list:

Last year I went in with too many top line premos which strapped my cash gen, which is the reason for some cheap premos down back and up forward. Lloyd is the big one I'm keen to bring in.

Its good to be back!


Will I have the intestinal fortitude to start a team like this?

B – Hurn, Williams, Daniel, Sicily, Laird, Docherty (Bianco, Gould)
M – Rowell, Anderson, Bonar, Stephens, Starcevich, Picket, Schoenberg, Robertson, (McHenry, Rivers, Hibberd)
R – Gawn, Grundy
F – Whitfield, Martin, Heeney, Ziebel, Steven, Smith (S.Hill, Rankine)

Gives me in a perfect world 14 keepers and only one line to worry about upgrading – the mids where all the better rookies sit.
Gawn, Grundy, Whitfield and Martin for captain choices each week.

The Ranger

Haha ha…Mayniac by name…
I'd love you to start this team just so you can report back on how it goes mate, I don't think I've ever even seen this suggested before.
Onya for thinking not so much outside the box and more like in a totally different universe from the box.

Mighty Chungus

That would make an interesting experiment. Although one argument I could give would be that the fwd primos are more likely to throw in a few stinkers so they're more likely to drop in price than the mid primos… Also, Hill is way too much cash to be a bench filler. But I suppose you gotta risk it for the bizkit…


A possible bench keeper to swing through to defense when sicily gets suspended – lol
would need to find a rookie F/B swing-man in defense.

Only 50 odd days to talk myself out of it!

Pat Magroyne

D – Lloyd, Williams, Laird, Docherty, H Clark, Starcevich, Willamson, McLennan
M – Macrae, J Kelly, Cripps, Oliver, Rowell, L Valente, T Green, Pickett, McHenry, D Robertson, Hibberd
R – Grundy, Naitanui, De Koning
F – Whitfield, T Lynch (R), Steven, D Smith, Flanders, Rankine, Cockatoo, E Smith

I am a traditional slow starter then finish strong. Trying to get off to a quicker start this year, appreciate any feedback.


LIke the Clark pick, a bit different, have him myself but I thought his avg from last year would be higher… surprised when I saw it tbh


Agree on Clark, remember him having a few very impressive games late last year, didn't seem to get the supercoach scores for them though. For me he's probably not worth the risk, considering you'd want him to be a keeper.


Maybe look at Sloane, always gets off to a good start then bottoms out. Williamson im not convinced on given Dochertys return and Nic Nat probably a bigger risk than Jacob's. The Lynch pick is interesting but I've given up on KPF as starters as does not ever seem to work for me.

Structurally I'm not sure the 4 premo midfield will enable the quick start your seeking, looks like you'll be losing points there early on and I'd address that by taking more cheaper options in Def then Fwd, as looks like most are going with 5 premos in the mids (+Rowell), I'd even look at trying to squeeze 6 prenos in the mids

Only other point I'd make is on Kelly who I view as a luxury player as when he's fit he's almost unstoppable SC wise but staying fit is always part of his challenge it seems. I'd look at someone more reliable like Neale or Dunkley and look to the likes of Kelly as an upgrade target later.

Good luck bud!


$148,200 remaining

Current issues:
– Dangerfield v Dunkley (purely looking at who is more likely to have an off game and come down in price)
– Greene v Whitfield (not confident in either bodies, Whitfield the safer pick but Greene will be more POD)

L Ryan 520,400
D Houston 484,800
S Docherty 436,100
T Doedee 273,700
D Roberton 260,400
S Hill 190,600

J Macrae 668,900
P Cripps 635,900
P Dangerfield 625,500
C Oliver 593,900
M Rowell 207,300
N McHenry 123,900
S Simpson 123,900
M Pickett 123,900

B Grundy 705,900
M Gawn 697,100

D Martin 543,000
I Heeney 510,700
T Greene 510,100
J Steven 361,700
N Cockatoo 148,200
I Rankine 123,900

B Starcevich 147,700
T Rivers 117,300

H Schoenberg 117,300
D Robertson 117,300
T Bianco 117,300

S Draper 123,900

M King 123,900
N Cahill 117.3000


No doubt I’ll end up going safe come closer to the season


Have $205,100 left in the bank for upgrades when needed

C Daniel $537,900
R Laird $525,800
S Docherty $436,100
S Hill $190,600
T Williamson $146,300
W Gould $117,300

J Macrae $668,900 (C)
J Kelly $637,700
P Cripps $635,900
M Bontempelli $623,000
C Oliver $593,900
M Rowell $207,300
N McHenry $123,900
M Pickett $123,900

B Grundy $705,900
N Naitanui $457,800

L Whitfield $604,100
D Martin $543,000 (VC)
J Steven $361,700
D Smith $335,800
N Cockatoo $148,200
I Rankine $123,900

H Goddard $129,500
T Rivers $117,300

D Robertson $117,300
T Bianco $117,300
M Hibberd $114,400

M Conroy $102,400

D Cameron $123,900
M King $$123,900

Issues I’m having:
Tossing up between Bont and Dunkley for M4
Tossing up Between Oliver and Cogs for M5
Don’t know if to try and fit Gawn in or keep Nic Nat as a POD
Thinking about Toby Greene as a POD for my FWD line

Any help is much appreciated


Hey Lek, Thanks for replying, I feel if Nic Nat can keep his fitness up he could become a bit of a pod and could produce a really good average come season’s end, hoping for a 100+ average but if he gets to an average of 95 i’ll be happy


Bont and Cogs for mine. Captaincy will elevate them


Greetings all, hope you've all had a fun off season, it's good to get back into it.
Late start for me this year, got some catching up to do, anyway here's my first draft.

Williams, Sicily, Doch (Ling)
Doedee, Starcevich, McLennan (Bianco)

MacRae, Neale, Cripps (McHenry)
Danger, Cogs, Rowell (Bytel)
Wilson, Pickett (Robertson)

Grawndy (Comben)

Heeney, Greenwood, Steven (Cameron)
Devon, Rankine, King (Cavarra)

Fairly stock standard I'd imagine, rookies are placeholders until I bone up on them a bit.
I have a few dearer ones in there that I can cut back if need be, I'd like to get Whitfield in there for Heeney/Greenwood
Anyway, as usual I'm gonna throw up an early league that anyone on this great site can jump into, all welcome 128060.
Bring on 2020 πŸ‘πŸ»


There's going to be a lot of similar teams this year. Mid pricers are available for the forward and defensive lines that will tempt many. I jumped onto your league.

Pat Magroyne

Drink driving ban for Wilson. Only first two rounds but could be more.


Thanks Pat, I'll chop him for someone cheaper πŸ‘


Looking fwd to playing you DC.

The Ranger

Jumped in ya League Hedski.
Not a bad first draft mate but you gotta get Whitfield in.
I like that you've gone four deep in the fwd line, think I'm gonna stock up in the fwd line this year too, sick of getting 30's and 40's from crap small forwards.


Yeah I'm trying to make room for Whit, forwards are sucky as usual.
Will be fun going head to head again Ranger.


Whitfield is in


Damn, your league filled quickly Hedski.


Pretty sure Derek's Bunnies grabbed the last spot Holty, I reckon we'll go head to head in a few recreated leagues again this year,
starting to get pumped, bring it on.


Anyone else’s app not letting them select there side? Won’t let me go past the SC classic homepage where 2020 stats will be displayed….


I have the 2019 app that I've been playing BBL on Mav, seems to have updated itself overnight and let me straight into 2020 AFL?


Yeah not sure what’s going on won’t let me play on desktop either… it’ll let me login with my second team under a different one of my email Addresses I made just not my main team I use… I have that second one for the wife it works fine just not mine for some reason


Hi Mav I was fine last year until about rnd 20 going through Edge and for some reason it wouldn't let me in.. So I rang the Herald Sun and they couldn't come up with an answer on what to do.. So I tried logging in on Google and works fine.. I've tried going back with Edge today but no luck still


No luck with any form of accessing my SC unfortunately gator. Have emailed SC heraldsun I hope to hear back tomorrow. πŸ™‚


Hope they can sort it out for you mate

Totti fc

J. Lloyd $591,400 J. Sicily $509,500 J. Johannisen $458,100 S. Docherty $436,100 T. Doedee $273,700 B. Starcevich $147,700

H. Goddard $129,500 W. Gould $117,300

L. Neale $658,500 N. Fyfe $651,600 P. Cripps $635,900 M. Bontempelli $623,000 O. Wines $479,700 M. Rowell $207,300 N. Cockatoo $148,200 M. Pickett $123,900

C. Serong $175,800. E. Smith$123,900 M. Hibberd $114,400

B. Grundy $705,900. N. Naitanui $457,800

Comben $117,300

D. Martin $543,000 J. Steven $361,700 D. Smith $335,800 J. Townsend $222,900 S. Hill $190,600 I. Rankine $123,900

M. King $123,900 K. Kropinyeri Pickett $157,800

Love your work guys been a long time listener I still got $53,900 left
It’s early stages and everything can change but tell me what you think of my team

The Ranger

Couple of nice PODs there Totti.
Wines, JJ, Townsend…result if it comes off.


First Draft for 2020

Defense: Williams, Docherty, Houston, Doedee, Young, Gould (Starcevich, Rivers)

Midfield: Cripps, Dunkley, Dangerfield, Oliver, Coniglio, Rowell, McHenry, M.Pickett (Valente, Hibberd, Schoenberg)

Rucks: Grundy, Gawn

Forward: Whitfield, Martin, Smith, Hill, Flanders, Rankine (King, Bergman)

83.9k left in the bank. Thoughts??

The Ranger

Looks good Kevdog.
Wonder how many will pick Danger this year.


Thanks! Still tossing up between downgrading one of my premo mids to bolster the forward line a little


Defence: Lloyd, Laird, Doc, Doedee, Hill, Gould (Rivers, Bianco)
Midfield: Macrae, Fyfe, Cripps, Dangerfield, Coniglio, Rowell, Pickett, Robertson (Mead, Schoenberg, Hibberd)
Ruck: Grundy, Gawn (Cameron)
Forward: Whitfield, Dusty, Smith, Flanders, Rankine, Balleden (Cavarra, Walker)

Bank: $24,400

Should I go one down in defence to upgrade a forward rookie to Jack Steven or stick with what I have? Cheers

The Ranger

That question is gonna be asked a lot in the coming weeks Dylan.
Every year we all try and squeeze one more keeper in somewhere.
Steven, Smith and Greenwood are all good value punts in the fwd line so I'm leaning that way at the moment.


Lloyd – Crisp – Docherty – Hill – Young- Rivers
Sholl – Blanco

Cripps – Bont – Oliver – Cogs – Higgins – Gibbs – Rowell – Pickett
Serong – Sharp – Mead

44K in the bank. First go at putting it together. Any feed back?

Gawn – Nicnat

Whitfield – Martin – Steven – Smith – Flanders – Cockatoo
Berry – Rankine


Yeah I'm not sure he will stay there. Thinking a rockliff of last year. New role with a new coach.


Once we get used to it I think it'll be ok


Hi mate Byrnes will be ok but with the trades they've picked up and other good rooks waiting in the wings it'll be hard for him to get consistent games I think


DEF Lloyd-Houston-Docherty-Young-T.Williamson-Gould

MID Macrae-Neale-Cripps-Dunkley-Dangerfield-Rowell-McHenry-Pickett

RUC Grundy-Gawn
T.De Konning

FWD Whitfield-Martin-J.Stevens-S.Hill-Rankine-M.King

60k leftover


Prefer this team but leaves me very slim on cash and id need some cheaper rookies

DEF Williams-Houstons-Docherty-Doedee-Young-Gould

MID Macrae-Neale-Cripps-Dunkley-Dangerfield-Rowell-McHenry-Pickett

RUC Grundy-Gawn

FWD Whitfield-Martin-J.Stevens-S.Hill-Rankine-M.King
J.Mahony T.Hutchesson


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Where is the print button? I cannot see it πŸ™


I too…cannot see it now, think it was only on the pre-season team picker


Shame, would be so good at this time of the year.


My team thus far, rookies of course to be properly picked when round 1 teams are announced so have some now as placeholders.

Backline: Lloyd, Daniel, Docherty, Bianco, Rivers, Gould, Jarvis, McGuiness

Mids: Macrae, Neale, Fyfe, Mitchell, Dangerfield, Rowell, Pickett, Hibberd, E Smith, Shoenberg, D Robertson

Rucks: Grundy, Gawn, D Cameron

Forwards: Whitfield, Martin, D Smith, Bonar, Flanders, McAdam, Rankine, Cahill

Cash left in the piggy bank: 76,900


DEF: Sicily, Houston, Doc, Hill, Young, McLennan + Rooks
MID: Macrae, Fyfe, Cripps, Kelly, Oliver, Rowell, Pickett, Hibberd + Rooks
RUCK: Grundy, Gawn + Loop
FWD: Whitfield, Dusty, Smith, Steven, Rankine, King + Rooks

$22k remaining. Not sure whether to bring in a Doedee/ Roberton for Young?

Lee Mahony

Im not confident Dodee and Roberton play round 1

Lee Mahony

Def: Lloyd, Sicily,Docherty, S.Hill, Golds, Rivers(McClennan, Bianco)

Mids: Macrae, Fyfe, Josh Kelly, Dangerfield, Dunkley, Rowell, Pickett,McHenry ( Bytel, D.Roberton,Mead)

Rucks:Gawn ,Grundy, (Cameron)

Forwards: D.Martin, H.Greenwood, Stevens, D.Smith,Flanders, Rankine ( M.King, Worrel)


Pure Guns & Rookies:

Lloyd, Laird, Sicily, Starcevich, Gould, McLennen (Bianco, Rivers)

Macrae, fyfe, Dangerfield, Cripps, Oliver, Rowell, Pickett, Robertson (Mead, Shoenberg, Hibberd)

Grundy, Gawn (Conroy)

Whitfield, Martin, Heeney, McAdam, Rankine, King (Cavarra, Cahill)

Heeney could easy become Buddy, Devon or Steven

Sicily could easy become Docherty. More likely than not.


Hi Derek. In terms of durability, I think there are still doubts around Fyfe and Cripps. In both cases, I can see them spending more time forward – like Dusty. Fyfe himself heralded this ad signaled Cerra and Brayshaw to have more mid minutes. On that basis and for the price paid, I think it might be worth considering other Uber Premo mids that are more durable.
For Whitfield, I think his durability is also questionable. However he is so far ahead of other forwards with scoring, that even with a rookie for the 3-4 games he misses, you are probably still ahead. This makes his durability issue to Cripps and Fyfe, and why I would still pick him, but maybe not Cripps and Fyfe.

For Lloyd, his durability is also an asset. I agree with the suggestion that he may decline in points this year. But again, he is possibly so far ahead of other defenders that it is worth paying overs because of his durability.

As you say, Sicily, Laird and Heeney are probably placeholders that might be replaced if true value presents itself, because you are likely to be able to pick them all up at the same price or less later.


i was fairly vocal last year in not starting Fyfe because of his elbow. He is made for supercoach scoring.

Cripps is always bandaged up

Coniglio is very close to being a starter and a bit cheaper

Dunkley is very good, but i'm not a big fan of having two doggies in guts. Plus i was one of them who missed him last year (and the year before) so i'm bias

Laird was one of my first picked

Sicily to Docherty if Doch looks ok


Hi Derek. Just ran some numbers.

Dunkley 22 games 2562 total points / ave 116.5
Fyfe 20 games 2400 / ave 120
Cripps 20 games 2342 / ave 117.1

This means for the 2 weeks they were out, a rookie would need to score 162/ ave 81 for Fyfe, and 220 / ave 110 for Cripps.

Doubt we have rookies scoring that high in the first instance, let alone sitting on the bench!

Hopefully it’s food for thought. Was certainly what made me favour durability over pure points capacity for the premo mids


just to finish this:

Whitfield 1780 16 games 111.3

Walters 2217 22 games 100.8. Second best midfielder

Would need a rookie to get 337 from 6 games 56 ave.

That’s more of an acceptable equation for me. Any more than 16 games, and I think I am in front.


Hi Keen, I am interested in who you would have as your top 5 mids, if Fyfe and Cripps aren't part of it.


Hi John

My top 5 are Macrae, Neale, Dunkley, Treloar and Oliver.

I must admit a little torn over Treloar vs Danger (and almost considering Bont- mainly for my bye structure)

To be honest, I think it stands up ok against most sides. With the advantage of getting to 10 genuine premos, 2 fallen premos and 2 breakout gambles.

I hope I am not coming across as criticizing those selections, because it’s not my intention. I am just hoping to throw out food for thought directly to people like Derek, TopHawk, you etc who have been genuinely helpful to me on this site. So if I have a theory like that – even if it’s crap – I feel like it’s an attempt to pay back previous help.


Thanks for the reply Keen, I hadn't seen it when I asked you the same question on the podcast page. And no I don't think you are coming across as criticizing, we just give our opinions, which may differ to what other people think.


Laird, Houston, Docherty, Doedee, Hill, Young (Freo). (Mclennan, Gould)

Fyfe, Dunkley, Danger, Oliver, Ward, Rowell, Pickett, Mead (Robertson, Byrnes, Hibberd)

Grundy, Gawn (Comben)

Whitfield, Heeney, Steven, Smith, Cockatoo, Rankine (M.King, Worrell)

Rookies can obviously change. Would love to sneak Jack Watts in, think his return could be 90ave.
Only other choice is to break up Rucks with Jacobs.



Laird, Houston, Docherty, Watts, Hill, Gould (Mclennan, Bianco)
Macrae, Fyfe, Danger, Oliver, Greenwood, Rowell, McHenry, Pickett (Simpson, Robertson, Mead)
Grundy, Gawn (Comben)
Whitfield, Martin, Steven, Smith, Cockatoo, Rankine (Cameron, Cahill)
$1,500 in bank


Interesting choice with Watts Phil, could be a nice alternative for say a Doedee priced guy, Jack always had so much potential too, maybe it's time for him to realize it. πŸ™‚


Thoughts?? Blake acres getting more midfield time appeals to me as he’s proven he can score in the midfield.
Still considering my backline structure, with doedee and Houston in the back of my mind….
Hate and love this game!

Def: Williams, Sicily, doch, roberton, young, Gould // McLennan, rivers
Mid: macrae, Fyfe, Cripps, danger, acres, Rowell, pickett, hibberd // McHenry, philp, mead
Ruck: Grundy Gawn // conroy
Fwd: Whitfield, Martin, Steven, Smith, hill, rankine // Cameron, king


Just go to the leagues tab John. I just created and sent a league request. However I have also been put into another league and can’t work out how to get out of it. But SC is open. Exciting times


Thanks for that Holty, I just worked it out.


I think you automatically get entered into a public league Holty, when you start a new league and you have two going, enter your public league and under league options you can leave that crap league.


Here's V2.0 of Ball Don't Lie…

Docherty, Doedee, Roberton, Hill, Starcevich, McLennan (Rivers, Gould)

Treloar, Oliver, Merrett, T Kelly, Sloane, Coniglio, Pickett, Hibberd (Bytel, Bianco, Mead)

Grundy, Gawn (Comben)

Whitfield, Martin, Heeney, Steven, Smith, Rankine (D Cameron, M King)


– I've gone light in Defense as I don't really trust any of the higher priced premos (except Lloyd) or even breakout options just yet, but if I feel shaky about how things are going in Marsh with my selections I'll downgrade Cogs/Kelly to a rookie and make necessary changes to the backline. If things break the right way, however, I may just have started 4 Premos for less than $1M. Hopefully, Lloyd will be my first recruit of the season in round 6-7.

– I strongly feel that the VC/C will be Grawndy 90% of the time, which has allowed me to go for more value picks through the Midfield and get 6 strong 105+ players. I feel this will be an advantage at the beginning of the season. Will then look to pick up 2-3 more Premos through the year when they are at a better value price from a combination of Macrae/Fyfe/Danger/Neale/Bont/Dunkley/Cripps.

– I feel there isn't as much value at the lower-end of the rookie price scale for the forwards, and that's why I've invested in 5 solid starters. I have every expectation Stevens and Smith spend the run home as my bench support across both M/F, and will look out for the 2-3 surprise packets to bring in hopefully before they pop.

– All selections at this point are speculative except for Grawndy, Oliver, Whitfield, Dusty

Thanks for reading/feedback coaches πŸ™‚

Nicholas murphy

Gawn wont be playing rd 1 or possibly the first 3 games my opinion I would not touch a ruckman who has already hurt his knee only a slight tear. But still have think about that option. I have grundy even r Marshall could be Capt danger neale cogliano


Hey guys hows it going?. hope you all had a great Chrissy and New years…wondering how to get back into last season's keeper draft leagues?….seems to only be allowing a new draft league.


G'day Russty, goin' well, hope you are too.
I think the league admin will send out links hopefully.


Righty-o Hed cheers for that mate, can't wait for this year ay?…gonna be a hoot although many guys will be starting with similar teams I think.


Yeah I'm psyched, late to the party this year so pretty keen.
Am I right in thinking you can retain 3 players from last years squad in draft.


I have no idea mate, I thought we retained all our players in a keeper draft, 1st time playing that last year for me, do you know how to get into it now or is it not open yet?


Attention players, Russty, hedski, Holty01, derek, DavidC, NDD, Keen, gator59, Maverick, Patch, Lekdog and anyone else who I missed. The two Leagues of mine that some of you were in last season are now up and running. Holy Grail 681342 and TheSonsOfAnarchy 474982


Thanks Johnny I'm in mate.


No worries Russty, glad you could join both Leagues.


Happy to see people joining NDD, I was a bit late last season and most had already filled their quota.


Cheers John.
Fugg Nuggles are in the hunt for the Holy Grail.


Thanks for joining hedski.


Should be right John as long as he's fit and doesn't punch or kick anyone between now and then πŸ™‚


Do you mean Tom green John?
Huge wraps on the young kid likened to a cripps but there depth at gws is what worries me. Hately in 2019 was a star in the 2s and still couldn’t break into a injury plagued side… but from reports green is meant to be better than hately.

GWS matched Carlton’s bid at pick 10 using several picks to secure him so they must love him but unfortunately At the end of the day it’s GWS so who really knows but sounds like his good enough.


Yes T.Green, I should have made that clear.I was also thinking about Hately from last year, he would play a good game and still get dropped.


Sorry Russty, I meant the other Green.


As much as this game is a trading game. Your are right NDD, that initial starting team from rnd 1 determines your success for much of the first half of the season and more if you are just way off.

So then what is this yr more likely to be?

At present I'm going after a P (premo) 10, M (mid priced) 4, HPR (high price rookie) 5, R (rookie) 3

Cameron Ross

1st draft of my team for 2020
DEF – Lloyd, Houston, Docherty, Hill, Doedee, Young (Freo) (McLennan, Gould)
MID – Fyfe, J.Kelly, Danger, Oliver, Rowell, Pickett, McHenry, Mead (Schoenberg, Hibberd, Robertson)
RUC – Grundy, Marshall (Comben)
FWD – Whitfield, Walters, Martin, Heeney, Rankine, M.King (Cahill, Cameron)
Have $55k left, thoughts please

Cameron Ross

2nd Draft
DEF – Lloyd, Williams, Docherty, Hill, Starcevich, Young (Freo) (McLennan, Gould)
MID – Fyfe, J.Kelly, Danger, Oliver, Rowell, Pickett, McHenry, Mead (Schoenberg, Rivers, Robertson)
RUC – Grundy, Gawn (Comben)
FWD – Whitfield, Walters, Martin, Heeney, Rankine, Cockatoo (Cahill, Cameron)
Have $4300 left, thoughts please


Hi Cameron, I would replace Heeney with a cheaper option and get another premo in the mids.

Cameron Ross

3rd Draft
DEF – Lloyd, Williams, Docherty, Hill, Starcevich, Young (Freo) (McLennan, Gould)
MID – Fyfe, J.Kelly, Danger, Oliver, Lyons, Rowell, Pickett, Mead (Schoenberg, Rivers, Robertson)
RUC – Grundy, Gawn (Comben)
FWD – Whitfield, Walters, Martin, Bonar, Rankine, Cockatoo (Cahill, Cameron)
Have $12,600 left, thoughts please


A bit of moving around, but I would move Hill fwd to replace Bonar, move Gould on field, Rivers to defence and bring in Bianco or McHenry to Rivers spot. I like the Lyons pick by the way.

chris pepperall

Def – Houston, Docherty, Roberton, Young , Mclennan, Bianco (Rivers, Gould)

Mid – Neale, Fyffe, Cripps, Mitchell, Oliver, T.Kelly, Rowell, Pickett (Schoenberg, Robertson, Mead)

Ruc – Grundy, ROB, Cameron

Fwd – Whitefield, Martin, Steven, Bonar, Hill, Frampton (Rankine, Mahony)


I just can't seem to resist picking at least a few midpriced speculatives Neil, it's the hope that they actually end up keepers or at least scoring half decently until they get replaced, more often than not some rookies end up scoring like Parker last year, don't need too many of those lemons in your squad.


First team for 2020, team is forever changing.

Def – Z.Williams, Laird, Docherty, S.Hill, H. Young, W.Gould, (Rivers, Bianco)

Mid – Macrea, Neale, Cripps, Danger, Oliver, Rowell, N. Anderson, M. Pickett (McHenry, Robertson, Hibberd)

Ruck – Grundy, Gawn (Cameron)

Fwd- Whitfield, Martin, Smith, Flanders, Cockatoo, Rankine (King, Burgoyne)

I have 20k left over throw me some suggestions
Cheers Community


Hibberd out for 6 weeks already – ripe for a downgrade target


DEF: Laird ,Sicily ,Docherty ,Koschitzke, Ling, Khamis// Keane, Kennerly

MID: Fyfe, Cripps, Bont, Oliver, Kelly, Taranto, Hanneberry, Rowell/// Pickett, Schoenberg, Hibberd

RUCK: Grundy, English// Comben

FWD: Martin, Parish, Smith, Cockatoo, Rankine, King// Flanders, Mosquito

Rooks are all placeholders for now, will come and go as teams are revealed.Im suprised to see the lack of people with Hanneberry in their team, hes only 417k and averaged 96 last year with an injury affected 65. Looks to be a stepping stone at worst to an uber-premo and a keeper at best. Im backing Parish to have a breakout year this year, Bombers are dying for a contested ball winner and he looks bulkier and stronger by all accounts. Rucks are giving me some headaches, I know you have to start with Grawndy, but English is the closest thing to Grundy that the AFL will see IMO, and hes going to breakout one of these seasons, just not sure if this is the season.


Not a bad team, but I would start with Grundy and Gawn and build your team from there.

Lee Mahony

Pickett needs to play on field ,he will score 80 plus per game imo.


Gotta agree with Lee, and John, I'd be going a bit lighter in the mids to get the cash to go full metal Rucks and a stronger forward line fo sho.


I've got 6 rookies on field at the moment, the trade off is I have Jacobs at R2, am I courting disaster or is it worth not starting with Gawn to get more experienced players on field?


Don't do it.


It is tempting though looks reasonably solid except for Jacobs.


I have Gawn and 8 rookies on field, I'll take that ahead of Jacobs and 6 rookies.


I came to my senses and got Gawn now and 7 rooks onfield, in hindsight, those expensive players like Gawn and Lloyd can be really hard to bring in during the season cause it's usually other issues constantly coming up.

Cheers John πŸ™‚


No worries Russty, you aren't a serious SC player if you don't start with the Grundy and Gawn combo this year.


Hey Russty, there is a guy that is in a few of my leagues, that is looking to join a few more, would it be alright if I gave him the code for the JR Mega-League.I would only do so on your say so.


Might have to wait a bit DJ cause they were all invite only, 11 joined so far…if someone lets me know they're out it should be ok.


OK, I thought that might be the case Russty, I'll let him know that it will only happen if you look like not filling it.


Are you counting Hill as a rookie? Rookie price. I can get to 6 rookies plus Hill. Grundy Gawn, 5 premo mids, Whitfield and Williams. I have 3 breakout gambles. I think Roberton can be a decent stepping stone. Fallen premos in Steven and Doc. It does mean the cheaper rookies only. I can see me starting a Houston or Whitfield in the mids if there are not enough mid rookies.


Hi keen, I was when I originally said I had 9 rookies on field, I'm now counting Hill as a midpricer, like Doc and Steven. I have Williams and Laird, 5 premo mids, Grundy, Gawn and Whitfield, Dusty. So 11 premos, 3 midpricers and 8 rookies. I have enough cash spare to upgrade one of Doc or Hill, if need be. I did look at Dawson and Clark in defence to start with, but decided on Laird and a rookie instead, since it fitted in the budget better.


Hi Keen no not counting Hill as a rookie as he used to be a pretty good scorer 4 or 5 years ago, I've also got Steven and Smith, think I'm pretty much a guns and rookies side now..I've got Worpel in the mids too, hoping he can get even better this year..even if Titch is there.


DEF: Lloyd, Laird, doc, Aish, S.hill. Starvich.
(Rivers, Gould)

Mid: McRae, Fyfe, Cripps, Yeo, Coninglio,
Rowell, Pickett, Mead

(Simpson, Schonberg, Robertson)

Ruck: Gawn, Grundy (Comben)

Fwd: Walters, Dusty, Heeney, Flanders,
T.berry, Rankine. (M.king, T. Hutchesson


Decent side there Darby…not sure why you picked Aish though, unless you feel he's about to break out for some reason.
I'd prefer Doedee, Roberton or even Watts in that price range.

Lee Mahony

A few risks

Def: Lloyd, Sicily, Houston, Docherty, H.Young, S.Hill (W.Gould, Rivers)

Mid: J.Kelly, J.Dunkley, M.Bontompelli, C.Oliver, Jarryd Lyons, M.Rowell, M.Pickett. F.McGuiness(McHenry, D.Roberton, J.Mahony)

Ruck: Grundy, Gawn, (Comden)

Fwd: H.Greenwood, J.Steven, D.Smith, C.Jones, Bonar, Rankine (D.Cameron,M,King)


I like your side Lee, backline's very strong, some nice pods in the mids, forward could be a problem with point generation but if it works out for you….Greenwood, Jones, Bonar etc..could be great, it's just a very risky forward line is all I'm saying.


Hi Lee, if you have enough cash, I would move S.Hill to the fwd line, so you don't have two freo players on the same line, McLennan in to replace Hill, Jones out for Hill and bring in either Whitfield or Dusty for Bonar. And have a think about whether Rowell is worth over 200k.

Lee Mahony

I don't normally pick expensive rookies and I know it was a weak draft, but Rowell averaged over 160 in tac cup apparantly.


Welcome back guys! First crack at a side for 2020, any comments welcomed πŸ™‚

B – Sicily, Houston, Doc, Doedee, Horlin-Smith (Rooks)
M – Fyfe, Cripps, Bont Cogs, McGluggage (Rooks)
R – Grundy, Gawn
F – Whitfield, Dusty, Dev Smith, Bonar (Rooks)

$211k bank


Sicily and Heeney are the cheapest premiums/keepers i can see in any of the lines. $510k is cheap.

Heeney is 5th most expensive and Sicily 12th.

I can see both being top 6 on their lines. hopefully save some trades


i am toying with the following team, without Heeney and Sicily and opting for a Robertson and Devon at F3 & D3 and batting 6 deep in the guts.

Lloyd, Laird, Robertson, Hill, McLennon, Gould
Macrae, Neale, Cripps, Dangerfield, Oliver, Coniglio, McHenry, Pickett
Gawn, Grundy
Whitfield, Dusty, Devon, Cockatoo, McAdam, Rankie

what ya reckon


Thoughts guys? Really not sure what the perfect structure is this year, backline looks weak but I would usually have a mid price in the mid field with and extra premium down back, but have flipped it so the mid price is in the backline with another Premo in mid!

Back: laird, doch, doedee, roberton, young, Gould (rookies)
Mid: Macrae, Fyfe, Cripps, Dunkley, danger, Rowell, McHenry, pickett (rookies)
Ruck: Grundy, Gawn (some bloke)
Fwd: Martin, Whitfield, Smith, Steven, hill, cockatoo (rookies)


Hi James, if you traded Young in for say, Bianco or Rivers and Hill in for say, Max King, maybe even Rowell out for Starcevich and you'd save 180 grand or so and could upgrade Roberton to a better defensive guy, if Robbo has even a slight heart issue or implant malfunction I think that'll be the end of his career….good effort mate, you've got all the right rookies that we know of for now.


Who cares if a player was injured last year that is not a reason to avoid them, they're cheaper than they should be so jump on board. If you need cash look me up for a grant

Houston, Docherty, Doedee, Roberton, Horlin-Smith, Hill (starcevich, Mclennan)

Macrae, Neil, Cripps, TMitch, Danger, Curnow, Hannerbery, Pickett (mchenry,rivers,mead)

Grundy, Jacobs -conroy

Whitfield, Steven, Smith, Bewley, Cockatoo,Rankine (brander,king)

F6 is my only onfield player who is yet to debut


the problem with a player getting injured, when they come back they might not be as good, they might have lost their position or they might have an injury that will continue to be a problem.

If it was Sloane coming back from a broken cheek, no problem with that, but legs and ACL, and heart, and hammys are not easy fixed.

i hate running out of trades because of injury.


Hey fellas thoughts on Robbie gray as abit of a POD in the fwd line ?

Pat Magroyne

Was a favorite of mine. Has lost that bit of speed which gave him his edge. His last elite year was 2016 and just cant see him getting back to that form. An average over 90 would be a surprise.