Heroes, Villains & Mr. Sparkle

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Lekdog & Patch cover off on all things Supercoach from Round 21 and take a look ahead to 2020.

Reflecting on Jarryd Roughead’s career (00:00-04:12). Who will be the next coach of Essendon (04:12-05:48)? The heroes and villains of round 21 (05:48-16:46). Can Mr. Sparkle win you a final this week? (16:46-22:27)? Who should we have started with in 2019 (22:27-34:00)?

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jshsk · 12/08/2019 at 23:41

first time podcast listener, and last time too.

Russty_ · 13/08/2019 at 00:01

That's a shame jhsjklfshdl#h…we'll all miss you terribly.

s c tragic · 13/08/2019 at 09:06

AAAh he never said goodbye.

COREYSC · 13/08/2019 at 12:13

Hey community it’s Preliminary Finals time! And I need some advice it’s hard to drop blokes when they went well on the weekend and hard to drop Defence guns who had bad weeks so I’m looking for guidance

3 Trades Left 3K in Bank
Whitfield, Z.Williams, Lloyd, Laird, Hurn, Sicily (Naish, Smith)
Macrae, Fyfe, Bont, Cripps, Neale, B.Crouch, M.Crouch, Duncan (Hately, Snelling, K.Dunkley)
Grundy, Gawn (Bines)
Dunkley, Marshall, Dangerfield, Greene, Boak, T.Kely (Young, Gardner)

    Russty_ · 13/08/2019 at 12:51

    Hi Corey, great finishing side..don't think you need to do anything but you could probably afford to sell either Hately or Snelling this week for the cash so you have more options if you make it to next week.
    Also Marshall's gotta go this week if he doesn't get up…cheers mate.

      COREYSC · 13/08/2019 at 13:10

      Cheers mate, it will give me 140 odd K I don’t really know what I’ll do with it though should I focus on defence or go for a Oliver/Trelaor and then Dusty removing say Duncan and B.Crouch and keep Matt Crouch

        Russty_ · 13/08/2019 at 13:28

        Yeah B,Crouch or Duncan to Treloar could be a good move, Treloar has more to play for now than Oliver I think.
        Reckon your defence is fine, hopefully Hurn lifts and Sicily maintains his form from last week.
        Are you mostly about Leagues or overall? If you're in a tough matchup this week, I'd go Treloar.

          COREYSC · 13/08/2019 at 14:08

          I’m in 5 prelim finals and I’m ranked 2,140 so definitely leagues but I’ve been coming home very strong which is great!
          See Duncan has Carlton in the final round haha that’s why I’m a little lost haha
          If I got to Duncan to Treloar and Downgrade Hately this week it leaves me with 30 odd K to upgrade B.Crouch in the final round to Dusty for the final round
          Oliver has caught my eye because the Dees have Sydney which is a winnable game and North Melbourne to finish

          COREYSC · 13/08/2019 at 14:27

          I can make this move work
          Downgrade Hately
          Neale to Treloar
          Then next week
          B.Crouch to Oliver
          And keep Duncan hoping he goes big against Carlton It’s a tough run home for the Lions I think against geelong and then Grand Final Neale tagged by Graham I assume just think Oliver can go bigger and same with Treloar this is the only way I can get both Treloar and Oliver otherwise I have to go for a discount like Dusty, thoughts?

            Tony · 13/08/2019 at 14:40

            I wouldn’t trade Neale mate, I reckon he’ll go big against geelong this week, and Richmond’s midfield is actually quite poor so he can easily score well there in a potential loss.

            I’d be getting rid of brad crouch this week personally

              COREYSC · 13/08/2019 at 14:48

              Just means I can’t get Oliver and Treloar so i’ll Have to go for Dusty and Treloar instead

            Russty_ · 13/08/2019 at 14:51

            Go with your gut mate, I'm hesitant to advise one way or the other cause both moves could pay off or backfire haha
            If you think Neale will struggle though, maybe that's the way to go.

              COREYSC · 13/08/2019 at 15:12

              Thanks for your guidance mate, I’ll go with my gut I’ll Try and get Trelaor and Oliver and hope duncan goes big against Carlton

                SamuraiPizzaCat · 13/08/2019 at 15:55

                Personally think trading Neale out is crazy, his score was low last week due to the tag. But then again who knows what will happen, maybe you're right!

                  COREYSC · 13/08/2019 at 23:09

                  Haha it’s been a crazy year mate and I’ve just got a feeling about it, but we’ll have to wait and see!

                Sam_01 · 13/08/2019 at 16:58

                Solid team Corey, always hard to say when your sideways trading premos
                Jezza Cameron plays suns last round could be worth keeping a trade for that, also if deboer comes back this week the doggys boys may be in trouble!

                  COREYSC · 13/08/2019 at 23:08

                  Thanks Sam definitely a few things to think about it that’s for sure, I will keep that one trade in mind for sure!

The Ranger · 13/08/2019 at 14:41

If you were going to trade out one of Witherden or Blakely which one would it be?

    Russty_ · 13/08/2019 at 16:52

    Tough one Ranger, after Wither's performance last week I'd think keep him but it was only the Gold Coast, both pretty inconsistent though, Blakely gets you more money I guess.

      The Ranger · 13/08/2019 at 17:05

      With Geelong and Richmond to come you'd think the ball might be in his neck of the woods a bit…I've stuck with him all year so he bloody owes me a couple of good scores!

    Sam_01 · 13/08/2019 at 16:54

    Flick Blakely, they have both been poo this year though

      The Ranger · 13/08/2019 at 17:02

      Tell me about it. I started with Witherden hoping he would have a break out year and got Blakely in as a bit of gamble when I was already behind the 8 ball. Once you start digging a hole it's sometimes hard to stop….

        Sam_01 · 13/08/2019 at 17:09

        I was so close to starting witherden and close to bringing in Blakely glad I dodged them both haha

    Lekdog · 16/08/2019 at 08:41

    Blakely as much as I love him

Sam_01 · 13/08/2019 at 16:53

Solid work on the POD fellas glad it’s being kept up while many coaches years are over
As an optimistic coach I’m eying in a top 10 finnish haha
Really considering trading bont or macrae if deboer comes in this week and then picking up josh kelly as he plays dogs then Gc!
Who will cop the tag? Or is it more worthwhile holding them and flicking someone like Mcrouch for jezza cameron next week when he plays suns?

    Lekdog · 13/08/2019 at 22:10

    No idea who cops the tag, could be Dunks? I wouldn’t be flicking any of em

Loop · 13/08/2019 at 17:37

Hey guys. Got a prelim in my money league. Looking for some devine guidance.
$46,900 and 3 trades
DEF: Houli, Whitfield, Williams, Lloyd, Laird, Hurn, (Logue, Gardner)
MID: Macrae, Fyfe, Dunkley (M/F), Oliver, Cripps, Neale, Merrett, Sloane, (Clarke, Bewley, Scott)
RUC: Grundy, Gawn, (Bines)
FWD: Danger(M/F), Greene, Boak, Walters(M/F), Heeney(M/F), Kelly(M/F), (L.Hill, R.Young)

Fella i'm playing has 6 unique to me, including both crouch boys and marshall. I see that as my biggest prob.
Really love to see some options on this team

    Russty_ · 13/08/2019 at 18:36

    Hi Loop, maybe just punt Sloane if he doesn't play and keep 2 for next week.

      Loop · 14/08/2019 at 05:58

      Someone has the same name as me – I'll change.

        Russty_ · 14/08/2019 at 15:57

        Maybe make an intense debate account Loop, then you can choose your own unique name and no one else can copy it.
        Well done this year btw.

    redherringfc · 15/08/2019 at 19:08

    Dunkley in the mids is a great luxury. It gives you fantastic options.

    Pretty sure it’ll cost 2 trades, but Greene to J Kelly could be a great move.

    Lekdog · 16/08/2019 at 08:42

    Team is good! I would maybe go Clarke to Hanners or Narkle and loop their score?

Brn · 13/08/2019 at 19:49

Still a shot at finishing top 10 overall. 2 trades left which i intend to use this week. No cash in bank.

Brodie smith my weakest point. Would you trade him to houli, bryne jones, or hurn?

Other options are merrett or m crouch (despite last game) to josh kelly/treloar, but thats pretty sideways.

Last option is to get l parker, cunnington, or mundy as a bench loophole option.


    Lekdog · 13/08/2019 at 22:11

    Byrne Jones or Parker loop for mine

    TRIGGA_HAPPY · 13/08/2019 at 22:38


gvaa1 · 13/08/2019 at 21:36

I like Kelly <img src="https://s04.flagcounter.com/mini/Jkzv/bg_FFFFFF/txt_DEDEDE/border_FFFFFF/flags_0/&quot; width="1"/>

Tommo09 · 13/08/2019 at 22:44

O’Meara and Daniel => Sloane and Hawkins/Walters
Daniel and Scott => Dunkley and a rookie

These will be my last two trades heading into a right prelim final so it’s all in

    Russty_ · 13/08/2019 at 22:51

    Option 1 looks good to me Tommo, with Hawkins, Walters spudded it against Stkilda, something wrong there.

COREYSC · 13/08/2019 at 23:10

If someone told me at the start of the season that after not starting with either in my side I would end up with James Sicily and Toby Greene in my side I would’ve called them crazy, just been one of those years!

    Russty_ · 14/08/2019 at 15:48

    Hey Corey, I have Sicily and wish I had Greene now instead of spud Westhoff…Greene is a jet when playing midfield.

      COREYSC · 15/08/2019 at 22:26

      Yeah Greene has been superb but in the saying that with Josh Kelly returning I’m Not sure how that affects him in the final two rounds

        Russty_ · 15/08/2019 at 22:53

        I wouldn't worry about it, he's named on the ball, ruck rover or rover

    Lekdog · 16/08/2019 at 08:43

    No flog policy has been lifted

Haze · 14/08/2019 at 09:37

Big prelim this week and have 6 unique players to my opposition. Have 3 trades left so going Answerth to maybe Houli or DBJ. This would give me full team. However wondering if I do sideways trade to get Josh Kelly or go Boak to Worpel. As opponent has Worpel and he is playing the Suns. Help needed
Team is
Lloyd, Whitfield, Williams, Hurn, Laird, Answerth
Neale, Cripps, Macrae, Bont, Oliver, Zorko, Fyfe, Treloar
Gawn and Grundy
Danger, Marshall, Boak, Dunkley, Heeney, Walters

    Lekdog · 16/08/2019 at 08:43

    Upgrade Answerth, get as many on-field points as possible

Streaker · 14/08/2019 at 12:10

Last trade Treloar or Dunkley thoughts please.

    Russty_ · 14/08/2019 at 15:47

    Maybe Treloar just in case Dunks gets tagged by DeBoer if he's back this week.

    Lekdog · 16/08/2019 at 08:43


Derek · 14/08/2019 at 13:04


This is it. The final 3 has been decided.

Instant Service and Punt Rd Paupers weren't able to keep up this week and have been eliminated. Great effort fellas, came up just short when the whips were cracking.

Our 3 finalists all deserve to be there.

Kezzam (2495), GreendaleFC (2479) and yucky (2443) have been consistently near the top of the group every week. yucky & Kezzam are both ranked inside the top 1000 and GreendaleFC not far behind. It's going to be a fantastic battle this weekend.

I suggest the 3 of you set up a 'rivalry' to keep an eye on each other. it is unique having two opponents to contend with instead of just one.

Good luck.

    loop · 14/08/2019 at 15:30

    Theres only a few (four??) differences between Yucky and myself, Greendale has quite of few PODs. Will be sweating on the fitness of Sloane and Marshall I think.
    Awesome concept Derek. Thanks again for adding interest to the season.
    There are a lot of community members ranked way above me, lucky that they didnt enter!

      neil demons delight · 14/08/2019 at 18:24

      Is Loop Kerry if so you have had an amazing year dont sell yourself short,

    Lekdog · 16/08/2019 at 08:44

    You’ve been a gun all year Derek! Well done on this

Derek · 14/08/2019 at 13:19

Shout out to those left in the Cash League i set up (JR CASH LEAGUE)

I scraped into 6th place, but didn't last long when the big guns came out to play.

This week's preliminary Finals see:

Such is Fyfe vs One Touch Wonders

Finnius fylers vs Scaries VIII

The projected scores are all big numbers and the matches are sure be close.

This league is Winner take all, good luck fellas.

    Lekdog · 16/08/2019 at 08:45


neil demons delight · 14/08/2019 at 13:29

Great to be a part of both Derek.Unfortunately not my year but always loads of fun . good luck to the remaining coaches in both. Finn and Kezzam will be hard to toss NDD

    loop · 14/08/2019 at 15:34

    Early on I had you as my top pick to win Survivor NDD, I thought that you were going along quite nicely.

      neil demons delight · 14/08/2019 at 18:07

      Thanks for the compliment loop.It took a 14 point game from COGS and MOORE to oust me two weeks back and then by only 6 to Shake Trades just cost me and with so many premium doughnuts way too early i have been going south fast ,but i did have a great team early on thanks again maybe next year cheers NDD

neil demons delight · 14/08/2019 at 13:49

In my league A GRADERS the final four are Dazza Holty and Trigg Shake These are some powerful teams.Its been a pleasure to organise this league for some years now and hopefully all will return next year.Thanks to all the participating coaches Good luck to the final four NDD

    Russty_ · 14/08/2019 at 14:06

    Tough League that one Neil, I finished 4th and got bundled out in straight sets by Dazza and Trigga, I'll have to bring it next year to be a shot at the end, team just not good enough this year, cheers mate.

    TRIGGA_HAPPY · 14/08/2019 at 14:22

    Thanks mate.
    Probably not ideal to be heading overseas for two weeks eh? 🙉🏝

      neil demons delight · 14/08/2019 at 18:11

      Wish i could make a final in A GRADERS Safe trip mate

        Derek · 14/08/2019 at 19:49

        The only league I’m still alive in is Elite of the Elite. Some really great players in that league plus Patch and Lekdog.

        I got lucky last week and had to play NDD. Even with Dusty and Lycett out I still managed a win. I’ll be smashed this week for sure.

        My team was like yours, every week had to trade out a premium or took a Coniglio Zero or had Danger C when he scored 22, even managed a donut one week when I forgot to put Hurn on the field.

        My biggest mistakes was to get Westhoff and Gunston when they were very cheap (Gunston scored 144 the next week, but the rest was misery). At the time I was tossing up to get Marshall and Dunkley, but the only reason I didn’t was the darn Round 13 bye. I couldn’t risk anymore saint or dog players, no more bye planning for me next year.

          neil demons delight · 14/08/2019 at 20:15

          It's all about that initial squad ,isn't it Derek. i thought i had 12 good prems but really only had nine and they stayed all year Players like Mundy ,who you had too, westhoff and Rocky were simply not first round selections They were all speculative risky picks and i wont make that mistake next year. Doc and Tich are totally different Good luck in Elite,you gave me a tough one NDD

      Russty_ · 15/08/2019 at 21:02

      Where you off to bud?…happy trails, stay safe and make sure you have internet access while you're away lol

    Holty01 · 15/08/2019 at 07:09

    I’ll be back Neil for sure. Been a fantastic competition.

      neil demons delight · 15/08/2019 at 07:32

      Great to hear Holty Some of these coaches have been here for years and keep returning and performing well ,but the key to good leagues is to keep at it and ,don't drop out. Derek and myself enjoyed an epic battle last week and neither have much hope for advancement but we are still there trying and having fun .There is no fun in beating a dropout by 300 and you certainly haven't been that NDD

    Shake_n_bake · 15/08/2019 at 17:09

    Definitely be back next yr Neil. Tnx for the invite. Always great competition.

      neil demons delight · 16/08/2019 at 08:25

      You keep beating me Shake and you follow the enemy but I have learnt loads off you and your team so beware bud beware the Demons Delight 2020 How did you go in Cazaly?

    redherringfc · 15/08/2019 at 18:56

    Any chance of an invite next year, Neil? That is if you get a dropout.

    Based on this year I’ll struggle to make it out of the bottom 2, but (just like this time last year) I know what went wrong and I’m sure I’ll fix it next year.

    I’ve enjoyed following your comments this year. Good luck if you made into any finals in other leagues this year.

      Russty_ · 15/08/2019 at 19:41

      Not selling yourself all that well there mate haha, what was your team name this year?
      It's largely about the timing when entering Leagues, gotta be around at the right time cause they fill up quick.

      neil demons delight · 16/08/2019 at 08:29

      Russty right red ,people change names yearly and red herrings might not be there but I have placed it on the top ,all you have to do is remind me of redherrings 2019 As I said dropouts ruin leagues and I know you are not only good but a stayer ,Hope to see you cheers NDD

Daniel · 14/08/2019 at 14:23

2 trades left, 90k in the bank. Time to get rid of Caleb Daniel.
Choice are Worpel, Walters or Greene and it's all about winning the prelim not ranking for me.
Leaning towards Worpel, what's the thoughts community?


    Lekdog · 16/08/2019 at 08:46


Big G · 14/08/2019 at 15:31

Any update on the Sloane and Marshall injuries

    Russty_ · 14/08/2019 at 15:43

    Hi Big G I read that Sloane is listed as a test but also that Adelaide were confident he'd play, specialist cleared him of any eye damage, no mention of Marshall being injured or a test so he could be good to go.

      Derek · 14/08/2019 at 19:53

      He didn’t play the second half last week because of fear he had reinsured his eye socket that he did a few years ago. Nothing to do with concussion.

      If the eye socket is fine he should play.

      Maybe they will get his Batman mask out

Daniel · 14/08/2019 at 16:14

Yeah that's my only concern with Greene, what's the effect of Kelly back in?

    Russty_ · 14/08/2019 at 16:16

    Well, it could be a devastating effect if Greene gets switched back to the fwd line, he doesn't score anywhere near as well when playing fwd.
    Kelly and DeBoer potentially coming back into the mids this week…wait and see though.

Russty_ · 14/08/2019 at 16:15

For those in tight matchups this week, with very few uniques between your opponents, I think trading out Lloyd could be an option, he's only averaged 86 for the last 3 rounds.

    Lekdog · 14/08/2019 at 22:31

    Bold! Love it!

    redherringfc · 15/08/2019 at 18:57

    1 trade left. Lloyd to Whitfield?

    Nah, my balls aren’t that big.

Connect Huion H420 · 14/08/2019 at 18:54

Awesome post.

Tofa · 15/08/2019 at 10:23

Hi fellas, $200k and 4 trades left, need a finals win and only playing for a league win.
I'm all premo except one midfielder. options r:
1. paint the fence and bring in a hero like Treloar or Bont.
2. bring in a cheaper super-premo on a hot run and replace a crappy premo.
3. upgrade two crappy under-performing premos and leave Hind on the field.
my upgrade options r Hurn, cunnington, lloyd and boak… (wtf happened to these guys? r they salvagable?)

thanks lads.

    Russty_ · 15/08/2019 at 14:00

    Maybe cunners to Treloar, the other 3 might come good hopefully..Boak was tagged last week, Bont could get tagged too.

Files 4 Windows · 17/08/2019 at 03:33


    Patch · 19/08/2019 at 23:32

    Gday Files!

JB · 17/08/2019 at 11:32

B Crouch to J Kelly and B Smith to Sicily thoughts?

    Patch · 19/08/2019 at 23:33

    Not sure about bringing in Sicily but the first one might be a go.

Patch · 19/08/2019 at 23:33

PODCAST UPDATE: It'll be up tomorrow morning, we've been very ambitious

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