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SuperCoach Panic Room: Round 17

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Well to borrow a line from Patch round 16 was a horrible, no good, very bad round of SuperCoach. A deadly mix of underperforming premo’s (Zerrett, Tim Kelly, Fyfe, Luke Ryan) and copping a double donut in the form of Travis Boak being a late out and Max Gawn’s ankle not being right to go by Sunday was, well, not good. If you avoided the carnage however 2,400+ was on the cards and a handy rankings jump on the teams that struggled.

If that round was any indication, having bench cover is going to be hugely important these final few weeks of the season. Breakevens aren’t really important for rookies now, if they are playing just leave them on your bench for a rainy day.

Foz joined Patch and Lek this week in the podcast as they hunted that ever elusive POD that can save you many and hopefully not be very bad at football. Damo asked the community “who’s your captain”. Statty kept the POD train rolling in his cheat sheet as we scramble like mad to get at least 22 guys on the park, and Barron cast his big brain onto 2020 and looked at some guys from Adelaide, Brisbane, and Carlton that haven’t got a look in this year that could be ready to explode for us coaches next year. Read it here

The News

As usual, Thursday teams threw up plenty of twists and turns and Ross Lyon ruining it for everyone by dropping Griffin Logue

For tonight we have another mid season draftee making his debut in John Noble (MID – 102.4k) He is joined by Levi Greenwood for the Pies, Matt Scharenberg is among the outs. JJK makes his return for the Eagles.    

James Rose makes way for Kieran Jack as Sydney host Carlton on Saturday. Patrick Cripps is back and Hugh Goddard (DEF – 159.6k) will make his club debut for the Blues. The struggling Mitch McGovern is one of those to make way. Grant Birchall will play his first game since round 15, 2017, for the Hawks. He is joined by Chadly Wingard. Jack Gunston will miss with injury. Aaron Sandilands has been spared the trip to Tassie for the match, meaning Sean Darcy will lead their ruck division. No change for the Bombers on Saturday afternoon. At North Melbourne, Curtis Taylor (MID/FWD – 117.3k) will play his second game. Gold Coast have made two forced changes, losing Wil Powell and Jack Martin to injury. Adelaide have resisted making wholesale changes, former Tiger Tyson Stengle (FWD – 123.9k) makes his club debut. St Kilda welcome back Jack Lonie and Nathan Brown but have omitted Matt Parker. Geelong will have Esava back.

On Sunday, no confirmed out at the Tigers as yet, however Jack Riewoldt and Josh Caddy are among those named. Josh Kelly will miss for the Giants but Lachie Whitfield is on an extended bench with Jake Stein. Leon Cameron has confirmed that Ian Hill (FWD/MID – 117.3k) will play, there’s also a possible debut for Matthew Flynn (RUC – 117.3k). The Dogs also have no confirmed outs, but Dale Morris could make his return. Rhylee West (MID – 117.3k) is also in the squad. Some big ins for the Dees with Big Maxy and Jake Lever declared fit to play. Marty Hore will miss with a broken collarbone and TMac is gone for the season. For the last game of the week, Port Adelaide also have no confirmed outs. Travis Boak should be right and Paddy Ryder has been named with Scott Lycett facing a fitness test. Cam Sutcliffe (MID – 199.5k) could debut. Eric Hipwood will miss the clash with injury and Luke Hodge is being managed. Jack Payne (DEF – 123.9k) is on the extended bench and could make his debut.   

The House of Evil

These rookies come with a free frogurt! (that’s good)

These premiums come with Potassium Benzoate (that’s bad)

Smooth Kevy’s Lock of the Week

Last week was a cautionary tale in keeping any remaining “powder” (trades) dry to use when you absolutely have to. There’s temptation to do luxury trades at this point but you’ll be kicking yourself when you need to avoid an on field donut in a few weeks and you have a big, fat 0 in available trades. Like clockwork, Josh Kelly has hurt his calf and miss the next 3 games. Recurring calf injuries and GWS injury reports are both terrible things that shouldn’t be trusted, so you need to trade. 

As the second priciest midfielder behind Jack Macrae, you can sideways him to anyone you like. However if you’re struggling to get a full premium team this is your chance to get some money in the bank to use on another upgrade. JPK is back to pumping out 100’s this year, he has 8 from 12 games (all 110+). That 68 in round 10 came from 57% TOG as he was injured. He doesn’t have those huge ceiling games that Josh Kelly can have, but he’s reliable and rarely draws a tag. Priced at exactly 100k less than Kelly and in only 1.2% of teams, JPK could prove to be difference in the run home.    

Hey Now, You’re a Draftstar

Adelaide will be keen to bounce back after a terribly underwhelming defeat to Port. There’s no better way to get back into the groove than taking on Gold Coast. For their part, they’ll want to show a bit of fight after copping a pasting by Richmond last week

RUC

The all conquering Reilly O’Brien (14k) comes up against Jarrod Witts (14.1k) this week. Gold Coast are second only to Melbourne in limiting points to opposition rucks. Witts won this battle back in round 5 123DS to 77 and the hit outs 46 to 34. Beware O’Brien’s 3-week average of 127, his massive scores have come against Soldo (146) and Rhys Stanley (128) 

DEF

Adelaide concede on average 8 more points to top 3 medium defenders and a whopping 19 more to the top 1 medium defender. Lachie Weller (11.8k) should be the beneficiary of this. Pearce Hanley (10k) had 29 possessions (22 kicks) last time these two teams met. Corey Ellis (7.2k) is cheap and draws a fantastic matchup. Jesse Joyce (9.2k) is in a little purple patch with a 3-week average of 83. If Brad Scheer heads to Rory Laird then Brodie Smith (11.7k) could see a little bump in scoring. 

FWD

Gold Coast have a lot of problems containing small/pacy forwards this year. Eddie (8k) and Lachlan Murphy (8.1k) combined to kick 9 on them in round 5. You could go back to the well and plug in these two again. We also have Tyson Stengle (5k). He has kicked 26 goals in 12 games in the two’s with 8 of those games being two or more. Hugh Greenwood (MID / 11.2k) is a bit more expensive but doesn’t necessarily need goals to score well due to his tackle floor. I’m a Sam Day (9.8k) fan and he’ll need to play a big part in this game if Gold Coast are a chance. 

MID

Draftstars 101: Target Gold Coast in the midfield. Over the 16 rounds so far they give up a massive 134.5DS per game to the oppositions number 1 midfielder and 118DS to top 3 midfielders. Take your pick out of Brad Crouch (15.2k), Rory Sloane (14.4k), or Matt Crouch (14.2k) or jam in all 3 if you can. Adelaide also concede a high amount of points through the middle. Brayden Fiorini (15k) is overpriced considering his recent output, but he loves playing at home and you might be able to snag him at low ownership as coaches load up on Adelaide mids. David Swallow (13k) and Anthony Miles (12.8k) are the ones in form for Gold Coast, while Will Brodie (12k) has put up some good numbers in his 6 games this year.   


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s c tragic

I'm almost paranoid, every player I bring in gets injured the same week,eg Daniels,Rockliff, last week was mixed bag brought in Boak & J Kelly, one in one out. Are we having fun yet??

Steeeve

tragic indeed!

details

Who are you bringing in this week?

Nifty

Who you getting this week Champ, so i can cross them off my list..

s c tragic

Looks like Sicely and Oliver ATM . Do I dare.

Steeeve

Please don't I have those two

TOPHAWK1

Great write up as always Kev!! Sweating on Lycett's fitness now that Paddy Ryder has come back. I sense more bloody canrage folks! Lets say our little prayers today.

SC_Kev7

Reckon he’ll be right, Hawk. But yeah, not great timing!

Sammy B

Egg- Smith or Quanyor who would be the best choice to get in as a cheap back man that will be able to sit on the bench this will allow me to get Lloyd and be full premo in the back line

Steeeve

Quaynor more likely to hold his spot surely

The crumbler

Howe will be back next week or the week after. May only get the 3 games out of him

John

9 trades and & $122k, my midfield is Macrae, Fyfe, Cripps, Cogs, Treloar, B Crouch, Stack and Clarke. Am thinking of going Stack to Sloane but also thinking of holding because Stack should still go up in price and I’m going for league wins and have a guaranteed win this week. The only trade I’m thinking of doing is Oskar Baker to Hanrahan via Jarrod Cameron. Next week I can then upgrade Stack. Thoughts?

Brn

Going for league wins or not, think you should try to upgrade your team. You could actually end up with too many trades left and not enough time to get full premium

John

I have 3 more rookies to upgrade including stack to get to full premo. This will probably get me to 4 trades left come SuperCoach finals. After this week if I have 8 left, next week I use 2 to get a premium and the week after I use another 2 which will get me to full premo. So I think I should be ok with how many trades I have left.

SC_Kev7

Sloane is a great option I reckon. If you’re not keen on him make a plan to get the premo’s you want

James

Pies fans, will quanor get a decent run?

TelescopicCox

I think so. He provided some decent run off half back

AuroraBorealis?!

Well we need some kind of spark off half back, will probably keep his spot provided he can keep his form up. Howe coming back in next will be the real test

RealDealNeale

Community. I'm stuck with Hore @ D6, Logue @ D7, and only 15K bank + 5 trades

Thoughts on Hore & Bewley > Sicily & Hill? Hill gives me a MID/FWD loop to swing Danger, Dunkley or Kelly into my middle if ever required.

Other option would be Hore > Quaynor or Hore & D.Clarke > Hill & Stewart

SC_Kev7

Like the Sicily/Hill option, RDN

Mikeee

Time to take good decisions <img src=&quotcomment image" width="1"/>

Steeeve

Need to win this week so I've abandoned my plans. Bringing in Stewart and Shiel for Logue and Jelly. This will leave me with Shiel at D8 but that's not too bad considering he'd be averaging 104 if not for pinging his hammy. He had a poor return from the hammy too (61) and without that his average would be over 106. A long drop off from Jelly but I just can't hold him. And Shiel is the best I can afford apart from maybe Robbie Gray (worried he will go forward with Boak, Rocky and Wines all playing midfield) or Pendles (who is a pretty underwhelming option imo).
Hurn hasn't been quite as good since his hammy so hoping Stewart and Hurn are going to average about the same from here.

Swans2012

I like Shiel, big ceiling, nice cheap m8, I’m 5k short of brayshaw to him unfortunately….

Steeeve

I like him too. But I'm still contemplating a far ballsier move.
I have a tough match-up this week, followed by two easybeats. I need to win all 3 to guarantee a spot in finals.
So my super risky option is to hold Josh Kelly (still bring in Hurn or Stewart for Logue). Put Kelly on the pine and play Clarke. Doing that I'm projected 2480. Opponent this week is projected 2410 but still has Logue so I'm not sure if they will end up trading him out or not. (Who knows if they still have trades, but I assume they do). If they make a couple of aggressive trades I'll have no hope and it will be 50/50 whether I make finals.
The upside of this super risky option is that I'll save one trade for finals (have four instead of three). Plus I'll have Josh Kelly instead of Dylan Shiel. Kelly is listed as being out 3 weeks which will mean he can ride the pine against the couple of easybeats in rounds 18-19 then HOPEFULLY be back for the first final. For what it's worth Toby Greene (no genius) said Jelly should only miss one or two.
Best case scenario: I have an amazing team for the finals, plus four trades.
Worst case scenario: I lose this week, other results don't go my way and I miss the finals — or I scrape into the finals but Kelly doesn't return anyway.
Season-defining decision coming up. What do you think?

foff

delete team

Russty_

Real constructive, go troll somewhere else.

Russty_

I'd still do the Shiel and Stewart trades Steve..Toby Greene ain't the sharpest tool in the shed.

COREYSC

Haha good call Russty for what it’s worth I think he must trade J.Kelly I am too 3 weeks could turn to 5 knowing GWS

Swans2012

Do the trades, make finals, worry about winning them once in

Steeeve

Thanks all haven't done them yet but will almost certainly do them. Just so tempted by a Jelly pod in the finals!!

Paul

Right, so I get Cripps and Gawn back but lose Hore, Logue, Gunstan and Parker. Lynch is still out. (Traded him in 1 hour before he got injured and have carried him for 5 weeks thinking he was only a week or so away every week!) Worst season ever!!

Anyway, looking at Parker > Jarrod Cameron for some cover and swing with Worpel M9/F7. (Or possibly M8/F6, the way things are going!)
Any good? Or is this Ian Hill worth a punt at a lower price?

Adsy

Cashing out JKelly and Logue, but thinking of two options – unsure which way to go:

1. TStewart and the Bont, or
2. Hurn and anyone from around the Treloar, Sloane, Cunnington pricepoint

Any suggestions? Bont potentially higher ceiling than the other mids, but Hurn the same over Stewart.

TelescopicCox

That's a tough one. I'd have Hurn & Sloane just above Stewart & Bont

Adsy

Yeah I had option 1 ready to roll but I've changed my mind and now going with Hurn/Sloane. Anyone with these two I apologise. I also said never again to Sloane after he let me down constantly in the past so lets see how it goes!

Stupid Coach

Sitting on 8 trades and playing only for leagues (one in particular) where I am second and can secure a top 4 spot with a win this week.

Tossing up whether to hold this week or should I go Parker to Hanrahan and Logue to Sicily (leaves 22k). Only other query with my team is whether Gawn plays as I have no one on the bench to cover him. If he does not play should I go Gawn to Grundy or Preuss instead of Logue to Sicily.

Appreciate any thoughts or suggestions.

SC_Kev7

Gawn will play. Like the Parker/Logue to Hanrahan/Sicily trades too

Sarah

Who would you pick, Tom Stewart or Luke Ryan?

iLoveNMFC

Stewart

DavidC

Ryan a chance of being a late out, go Stewart.

SamuraiPizzaCat

Look at Ryan's last two scores, I'd go with Tom Stewart

Russty_

Stewart, very reliable.

TommyC99

Hey guys, is it worth going a week early on ROB – Lloyd to avoid a donut?

Swans2012

I’d say yes, it’s only a little early anyway as both will likely drop some $$ this week, might only make 10k difference

Steeeve

Yep, wouldn't be early, ROB is at his peak price

Undypuncher

Mid upgrade. Can afford anyonebut I'm tossing up between jpk and lachie neale, thoughts?

TelescopicCox

Neale for me

SamuraiPizzaCat

Neale for sure

Russty_

Neale's your man.

Fearthebeard

3 trades left.

First in my league. Pretty much certain to make top 4

Daniels,
Jkelly,
Hore in my squad.

Jkelly I have cover for. The other two I no longer do.

Is it worth trading Daniels to heeney if I can risk the losses even copping donuts?

If I don’t go now I can’t afford him straight out for Daniels.

Hore is going for Whitfield or Sicily but yet again.
If I don’t move now on sicily I’m in trouble.

If I concede to use 3 trades on them and go jkelly to Oliver/Cunnington I can get sicily for hore and heeney fir danjels?

Though no trades for finals.

If I cop donuts I can have 3 trades for finals and hope Daniels and kelly return and fire for finals…

Thoughts?

TelescopicCox

If I were you I'd cop the donuts, despite losing out on Heeney & Sicily at their prices. I think trying to run the gauntlet of finals with 1 trade is a tough ask

Scarpi

Dear Community I have 6 trades left and 93k in the bank not sure what to do?
Any Advice would help.

DEF: LIoyd, Laird, Ryan, Houli, Sicily, Louge ( Rotham, Naish)
MID: Gaff, B Crouch, Taranto, Cripps, Neale, Fyfe, Dangerfield, Macrae ( Answerth,scott, Bewley)
RUCK: Gawn, Grundy (O'Brien)
FWD: Dunkley, Boak, Daniel, Kelly, Heeney, Chol ( Young, Bines)

TelescopicCox

Obvious problem is the donut down back.

I'd look at Bewley > Dunkley as a cash grab, and put that money on Logue to a premo option. If my maths is right that will get you Crisp as your best optoin

Other option is to go Rotham > Quaynor and play him at D6. Are you going for league or rank?

Scarpi

league im 6th atm

TelescopicCox

Logue news has completely stuffed me.

Current lineup is below:

B – Williams, Lloyd, Crisp, Andrew, Hore*, Logue* (Naish, Gardner)
M – J.Kelly*, Macrae, Fyfe, Treloar, M.Crouch, Neale, Cripps, Danger (Hately, Clarke, Bewley)
R – Gawn, Grundy (Bines)
F – Dunkley, Lycett*, T.Kelly, Heeney, Boak, Cameron (Chol,Young)

With news that Logue isn't even on the plane, I'm going to have to make some moves to cover my backline

1. Hore & Logue > Hurn & Quaynor. Downside is that Quaynor now becomes my D6 which is risky
2. Hore & Logue > Sicily & B.Smith or Short
3. Hore & R.Young > Stewart & Quaynor. Hold Logue in the hope he's back soon
4. Hore & Kelly > Sicily & Whitfield via DPP's. Would mean I'm playing Chol as F6 this week, having both Heeney & Danger as my M7 & M8. Risk is that Lycett is a late out without cover

Thoughts?

cash_cows

Man I hope Chol plays. Else I'm playing with a donut and I'm still sitting outside of the 8

Brn

Lucky you. Very lucky considering caddy and baker didnt make it

Will

I currently have 7 trades left and my team is at full premo. Only issue that I have with it is Cameron at F6. Is it worth using two trades to upgrade him to a good premo such as Ziebell or should I just hold onto him and eventually turn him into my F7.

Sam

Worth trading Burgess to Hanrahan for some forward cover?

Barry Ballbag

Time to trade ROB? Gawn playing so don’t need the cover anymore.

Lekdog

Cash him in

Steeeve

“I’m very confident they’ll be okay, I think they are going to play, but because it’s only Thursday and we are going to train again on Saturday we didn’t run Scotty too much today deliberately,” — Ken Hinkley

TheLostBoys

I was planning on using Hore and Logue as d6 for the next few weeks, until Whitfield was back and price had dropped. With Hore injured and Logue dropped, and Gardner as my other bench in defense, I now need to trade to avoid a donut.

Is it worth going early on bringing Whitfield in, or go for safety with Stewart or Ryan? Have ROB to trade out so can afford anyone.

Defence is Lloyd, Hurn, Laird, Williams, Sicily – Hore, Logue, Gardner

Brn

If you can get whitfield get him. Kelly out he will tear a new one. Wish i could afford him. Obvious hugher than normal injury risk but worth it

TheLostBoys

Thanks! Low on trades so whatever i do is risky – may as well go for it 🙂

Matt

I have Logue and Joel Garner on the field with no coverage. Want to trade one of them to Quaynor. Who out of the two is more likely to get called back into the squad? Garner did alright in the 2nds last week apparently but Logue seems to be the better player/scorer. Any insight would be great.

Brn

Reckon logue has beet chance if returning but still wouldnt hold your breath. He was stiff to miss out

Matt

Thanks mate.

Russty_

Agree with Brn Matt, Logue much more chance of getting back in.

Matt

Thanks Russty. Appreciate the advice fellas, I'm gonna keep Logue.

VC choice

Can Grundy keep up his elite scoring against NicNat?

Steeeve

I'm not banking on a huge outing from him but it seems reckless not to put the VC on him anyway. Hopefully Nic Nat only plays half the game and doesn't have the tank yet to keep Grundy from accumulating possies around the ground.

VC choice

Totally agree. I can't see NicNat staying with him but woweee he can jump

Brn

Nat will have managed minutes i reckon.
He is out of form too.

Grundy will get like 25+ touched too. He steps up when needed.in close games, which this should be. Means extra points

Russty_

Wouldn't say Nicnat's out of form with 99 and 88 from 50 % gametime from 2 games…. He might win the tapouts but Grundy does plenty of other good things around the ground in the meantime.
Reckon Nick will be on around half gametime for the rest of the year.

Derek

NicNat only plays 55% TOG

Daniel

Which 3 of K.Dunkley, I.Quaynor and O.Hanrahan are must haves/ have good JS as downgrade targets?

Steeeve

Really want to C Gawn. Can see him munching down an English breakfast.
Only worry is the obvious — does Preuss take too much of the ruck duty?

Brn

Gawn had 55 hitouts in round 4 with Preuss playing.

Think any concerns have to be significantly offsrt by the fact that most rucks have smashed english this year

Russty_

I think everytime we've doubted Gawn this year, he's proved us wrong, he's a beardy freak.

COREYSC

Except England are good and ranked no.1 in one day cricket Tim English is not no.1 haha

G.C.

Need some help once again community! Hore getting injured and Ross dropping Logue is leaving me with no money and a D6 donut.

6 trades left.
1) O. Baker, M. Gore -> K. Dunkley, T. Stewart ($11,700 in cash)
2) M. Hore -> I. Quaynor ($211,000 in cash)

I still have Gibbons and D. Clarke in the mids splitting M8 duty, which will be my last upgrade, so I don't need Dunkley for cover. I could get by with Quaynor as D6 for a bit, but will still need a second trade for a final D6 later anyway, don't trust his JS for the rest of the season. Running out of money and trades.

SC_Kev7

Wait on Quaynor I reckon. Pies haven’t done much on the rookie front this year

JohnDJ59

Both Logue and Duursma omitted.

Brn

Heavy for those with at D6.

Chol made the cut for tigers

TommyC99

If Luke Ryan is a late out, you'd assume it would be a straight swap as they play the same role.

JohnDJ59

Logue not on the plane to Tassie

Russty_

Dag mammit John!…what have they got against us?

JohnDJ59

Just when you think things can't get any worse, they do. Murphy's Law; if anything can go wrong, it will, at the worst possible moment.

Russty_

You're not wrong there…I'd feel a bit better if he was only "rested"

JohnDJ59

Had three donuts last week, I'm counting Hore in that, will have three again this week, can't see it getting any better really, not looking forward to seeing how far I end up falling in the rankings and league ladders. this could end up being my worst season since I started in 2014. My own fault though, using up my trades like I did.

JohnDJ59

Already looking at next year Neil, since this season is a write off, will just be getting as many keepers as possible at the start, no maybe choices, that's where I tend to stuff up, I usually nail the rookies, but also need to hang on to them longer if they are getting a game.

Russty_

Good thing about this game / torture is John, we can learn something from every year, just wish I could retain the information a bit better lol.

JohnDJ59

Most years in the back of my mind I'm always saying conserve trades, I decided not to listen to that saying this year, lesson learnt, never going to be aggressive with my trading ever again.

Daniel

Which 1 out of Dunkley, Hanrahan and Quaynoor is the best downgrade target over the next two weeks

JugHead

Considering a slight variation on the Paul Roos policy next year. Gunna call it the "No Dockers policy".
Mundy's form drops off a cliff after the byes. Logue gets dropped when he's starting to look set. Ryan could be a late out.
They do it to me every year around this time of the season.
Can't wait for Ross to decide that Fyfe would make a really good full back.

Russty_

No Dockers or Giants maybe?…haha

Maverick_

Got a quick one for ya community.. so backline consists of:

Hurn Williams Ryan Sicily Smith Logue (Burgess naish)

Obviously hoped logue stuck around for a while longer.
Now my two options are:
A) Burgess too a rookie (quaynor?) play the rookie onfield Grabbing Lloyd/Whitfield next week after one more $ drop.
Or
B) don’t muck around go logue to Whitfield/Lloyd

Then which to take Whitfield or Lloyd?
I like Whitfield but his durability is a worry

JohnDJ59

Lloyd

Maverick_

How long is Jelly out for? Could be a factor in my decision

kyle

at least 3 weeks

Stickman

Martin to Oliver with 5 trades left or hold and save the trade?

Saritz

I guess it depends on your preference… Leagues or rank? Personally, Id hold. Trades a worth their weight in gold. Make sideways trades in another 2-4 weeks

Maverick_

I’d hold. 5 isn’t many if your playing for leagues no doubt a lot of carnage to happen between now and finals & during finals where trades will be gold

Russty_

Yeah Martin could have a few more high scoring games, but I think he doesn't care that much anymore, not his fault, he's struggling with mental health issues.

Fearthebeard

Has anyone got any fresh update on Daniels and his injury?

Still need to decide if I
Jump
On heeney?

Maverick_

306k & 8 trades
Due to my family growing by 1 in the recent weeks SC has taken a back seat and out of the loop with all team news and goss so any quick suggestions would be huge.

DEF: hurn Ryan Williams Sicily BSmith* Logue* (Burgess naish)

MID: Neale Fyfe Cripps Macrae Treloar Sloane Oliver MCrouch (Hately DClarke Bewley)

Ruck: Gawn ROB* (bines)

FWD: danger TKelly Dunkley Marshall Heeney Cameron* (Gardner setters)

I have * my weak links that ideally I’d love to upgrade before finals but Logue out will bleed my bank dry to get whit/Lloyd.

I would love to move Cameron on but at 400k I guess I have to hold n ride it out try loop him with setters when I can.

Swans2012

I don’t think rob to grundy gets any closer than this week. Just do it before you find a reason not to….. then I’d burgess/naish/logue to quaynor to avoid a doughy, I’d probably hold logue if poss as he has been good and might slip back in (or maybe not lol)

Maverick_

You think Rob to grundy is more important than going Logue to Whitfield/Lloyd?

Swans2012

Definately, just think there is a greater chance of rob dropping a 60-80 and losing plenty than Whitfield/Lloyd getting out of reach. Rob and grundy get further apart in value from here (most likely) whereas Lloyd and Whitfield both have high be, and will (should) get closer to logue even if not playing. But you’d still have to cover the defense donut. I’d downgrade burgess to quaynor to cover it and hold logue in case back next week. Just my 2 cents….

Swans2012

Not to mention not having grundy can ruin a round before it starts, I’ve bought him in for rob this week and feel better already….. nothing worse than watching everyone else Vc him as he bangs out a 150….

Swans2012

Seriously mav just do it lol

Maverick_

I missed it swan. I just hope nicnat plays more than 40% TOG and can nullify grundy.. I’m going to have to go Whitfield or Lloyd.
Burnt myself too often making rushed decisions minutes from the bounce or under the influence of alcohol haha

JohnDJ59

Looks like it might have worked out for you Mav.

Swans2012

Looking like a magnificent call deep in the first quarter maverick well done

Swans2012

And just as I type it grundy shoots to 39 lol

TommyC99

I am also a cameron owner. I've got him at F7 to loop with Hawkins which makes me a little less nervous about owning him. I brought him in with the view he has a nice run home. Hopefully he can deliver

Russty_

Jarrad Cameron's scoring better than the Giants spud.

hedski

Congrats on the new addition Mav 👍
Cover that donut in def mate.

Maverick_

Thanks hedski. It’s certainly a special feeling 🙂
I didn’t go Rob to grundy so Logue -> Whitfield/Lloyd it is.

Russty_

Congrats on your new Family member Mav 🙂 cheers mate.

The Ranger

Congrats on the +1 Mav, enjoy the ride!

And get Lloyd in.

Maverick_

Thanks guys I’m loving the lifestyle change she a little gem.

Logue too Lloyd is done I can’t trust Whitfield’s durability even though they have a comfy run home that means nothing if his not on the park. Cheers

Fearthebeard

Community could really use some advise. Posted earlier but think it is to far up for people to read! Make or break for me now! As many views and opinions is greatly appreciated as I’m stumped and not been in a position to win like this
And would love to stick it up the old boy and his and my mates lol!

3 trades left.

First in my league. Pretty much certain to make top 4

Daniels,
Jkelly,
Hore in my squad.

Jkelly I have cover for. The other two I no longer do.

Is it worth trading Daniels to heeney if I can risk the losses even copping donuts?

If I don’t go now I can’t afford him straight out for Daniels.

Hore is going for Whitfield or Sicily but yet again.
If I don’t move now on sicily I’m in trouble.

If I concede to use 3 trades on them and go jkelly to Oliver/Cunnington I can get sicily for hore and heeney fir danjels?

Though no trades for finals.

If I cop donuts I can have 3 trades for finals and hope Daniels and kelly return and fire for finals…

Thoughts?

JohnDJ59

Daniel to Heeney.

Russty_

How many Leagues are you in mate?…if it's only the one, maybe just hold and retain those trades.

Brn

Who is your cover for j kelly?

If its someone like clark, get rid of kelly asap. Bounce is about to happen. Will post more below

Fearthebeard

Yeh it’s Clark as best option.

Brn

Look the decision is really up to you on this one, and your goals going forward.

May as well as cop the donuts for now if finals are your only goal. Daniel will be good in roughly 2 weeks, so keep him. Kelly could be a great finals pod considering his run. All the best

Fearthebeard

thanks Brn.

With that said
Might just sit and go for Whitfield next week if he bleeds some
Cash otherwise jump
On sicily I guess?

Fearthebeard

Only worried about the one rusty as it’s familt and friends lol

Derek

i know i'm the only person with Gunston and one of the very few who still has Duursma on field, and possibly one of just a couple who still has Parker (saints) and probably one of a handful who brought JKelly in last week……… but this is getting very difficult.

The magnets are flying everywhere this week.

good luck fellas, i'm going to need it.

Fearthebeard

Ouch Derek. I hear ya but that’s rough. Chin up

JohnDJ59

Agree Derek, I have Duursma, Parker and J.Kelly was one of my upgrades.

Holty01

U2 mate.

Russty_

Had Duursma, Logue on field and Parker on bench, Hore last week, didn't have Kelly thank Buddha.
Am able to field a full side but now have no cover in the backline or fwd line…fun!
Most of my trades were towards making sure I had cover.
silly game haha

Russty_

Bines has a permanent Hernia so good for loopholing.

Russty_

Big Grundy is warming up now Holty.

Defying_Madness

Cameron is pretty handy bench cover

Defying_Madness

What a gun, might have to take off a premo at this rate.

Steeeve

Loving him, won't lose sleep if Lycett is a late out now!

Pieman

Go chol over Cameron they said… it'll be fun they said :,(

JohnDJ59

Working on my C now.

Russty_

He's on 41 points now John, with 3 minutes to go in the first quarter.
He'll be fine I'm thinking.

JohnDJ59

That's a whole lot better than what I saw when I looked, just hope he can get to 125 at games end. Hang on why am I even worried, I have three donuts and no chance this round.

Russty_

Wow, the West Coast Eagles really know how to seek out the talent from the indigenous players…Willie Rioli, Jarrod Cameron, Liam Ryan currently, as well as all the guns they've picked in the past, more clubs should follow suit.
They make the whole game more exciting for everyone.

Big G

Agree russty

Russty_

Must be hard for some of these lads Big G, especially if they come from remote areas, but hell, they're loaded with skills and I love watching them work their magic….Hope us ignorant white fellas can figure out a way to make life easier for the indigenous new recruits/ players.
Apparently, that's a big problem, is the homesickness.
Indigenous players seem to be born to play AFL Footy, so talented, so much natural ability.

JohnDJ59

The Dees have had some great ones over the years Russty, Jeff ''the wizard'' Farmer was always my favorite.

Russty_

Yeah John, Farmer was a gun, Nicky Winmar was one of my favourites growing up.
Liam Jurrah was awesome too, shame he came undone along the line.

JohnDJ59

Winmar was a legend, what they had to put up with in those days was just terrible, we had Andy Lovell playing around the same time, helped us make a few finals, Aron ''the flash'' Davey came along not long after Jeff left, Liam Jurrah could have been anything and at the moment Neville Jetta is into his 11th year with us.

BadNewsBear

Russty I see positive sentiment in your comment and I believe that it comes from kind and noble intentions the intent of my response isnt to assault you but we need to be careful of creating stereotypes of any kind, praise based on race is racism. eg. "You people are very good at…" can be received as offensive and exclusionary even though it is delivered with complimentary intent. When somebody says that to me part of me hears "you're not like us" or "you're as good as us at…"

Also, the three men that you mentioned come from nations and cultures as far away and different from each other as Finland is from Greece and there are twice as many nations in between. You wouldn't bundle the Nordics, Brits, and Mediterraneans into the same cultural demographic and you shouldn't bundle different indigenous Australian cultures into a single demographic either.

European attempts to destroy the individual cultures of the Australian continent DO fit the UN definition of genocide and the continued failure of Australians to recognise the different cultures of the Australian continent and islands is an aid to the genocidal act.

Holty01

Moore. 😫

Russty_

Brought him into my draft side this week Holty, good call…not.

Russty_

Onya Grundy, you big long-haired glasses wearing Hippy bastard….74 at half time, very nice thank you big fella.

Maverick_

84 at 3QT though. I won’t be rushing into gettin him I’ll monitor nicnat for a couple more weeks hope they increase his TOG perfect swap for ROB. Save 150k

Swans2012

Pods are only good if they outscore the alternative mav, grundy is a no alternative lock,
Nat did look good early though….

Russty_

I'll take that 137 thank you very much sir.

JohnDJ59

Yes, over my 125 cut off points.

COREYSC

Mayne putting in close attention to Hurn been running with him all night

Russty_

Could've been the game changer COREY…didn't help my draft side much though haha

COREYSC

Haha have you got Mayne? Or Hurn?

Russty_

I have both in one of my sides…draft, Afl Fantasy but not Supercoach, think Hurn could be affected score-wise now with Barrass and Shephard back.
Mayne is a very unattractive man…with a bad hairstyle…lol

SamuraiPizzaCat

I need to bring someone into defence with Logue, Naish, Gardner not playing. And I have Jelly out, have rookie cover with D Clarke. Any thoughts on these options? I'm two off full premo with 9 trades left and $43k in bank.

Option 1
Logue -> Sicily
Jelly -> Shiel

Option 2
Setterfield -> Sicily (Gardner DPP)
Jelly -> JPK

Option 3
Logue -> Stewart
Jelly -> K Dunkley
Next week
Setterfield -> Quayner (Gardner DPP)
Clarke -> Bont

Russty_

I like option 1 Pizzacat, reckon you could keep Setters, and Quaynor might not be a good choice after all…JPK is old, Dunkley might not last long.

SamuraiPizzaCat

That's the move I'm leaning towards. I can also loop Setterfield and Chol this week which could be handy. Cheers Russty.

Ja191

Quaynor with the 3 point second half lol

Russty_

He did look a bit dodgy in the JLT….a bit panicky.