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SuperCoach Panic Room: Round 17

Published by Kev on

Well to borrow a line from Patch round 16 was a horrible, no good, very bad round of SuperCoach. A deadly mix of underperforming premo’s (Zerrett, Tim Kelly, Fyfe, Luke Ryan) and copping a double donut in the form of Travis Boak being a late out and Max Gawn’s ankle not being right to go by Sunday was, well, not good. If you avoided the carnage however 2,400+ was on the cards and a handy rankings jump on the teams that struggled.

If that round was any indication, having bench cover is going to be hugely important these final few weeks of the season. Breakevens aren’t really important for rookies now, if they are playing just leave them on your bench for a rainy day.

Foz joined Patch and Lek this week in the podcast as they hunted that ever elusive POD that can save you many and hopefully not be very bad at football. Damo asked the community “who’s your captain”. Statty kept the POD train rolling in his cheat sheet as we scramble like mad to get at least 22 guys on the park, and Barron cast his big brain onto 2020 and looked at some guys from Adelaide, Brisbane, and Carlton that haven’t got a look in this year that could be ready to explode for us coaches next year. Read it here

The News

As usual, Thursday teams threw up plenty of twists and turns and Ross Lyon ruining it for everyone by dropping Griffin Logue

For tonight we have another mid season draftee making his debut in John Noble (MID – 102.4k) He is joined by Levi Greenwood for the Pies, Matt Scharenberg is among the outs. JJK makes his return for the Eagles.    

James Rose makes way for Kieran Jack as Sydney host Carlton on Saturday. Patrick Cripps is back and Hugh Goddard (DEF – 159.6k) will make his club debut for the Blues. The struggling Mitch McGovern is one of those to make way. Grant Birchall will play his first game since round 15, 2017, for the Hawks. He is joined by Chadly Wingard. Jack Gunston will miss with injury. Aaron Sandilands has been spared the trip to Tassie for the match, meaning Sean Darcy will lead their ruck division. No change for the Bombers on Saturday afternoon. At North Melbourne, Curtis Taylor (MID/FWD – 117.3k) will play his second game. Gold Coast have made two forced changes, losing Wil Powell and Jack Martin to injury. Adelaide have resisted making wholesale changes, former Tiger Tyson Stengle (FWD – 123.9k) makes his club debut. St Kilda welcome back Jack Lonie and Nathan Brown but have omitted Matt Parker. Geelong will have Esava back.

On Sunday, no confirmed out at the Tigers as yet, however Jack Riewoldt and Josh Caddy are among those named. Josh Kelly will miss for the Giants but Lachie Whitfield is on an extended bench with Jake Stein. Leon Cameron has confirmed that Ian Hill (FWD/MID – 117.3k) will play, there’s also a possible debut for Matthew Flynn (RUC – 117.3k). The Dogs also have no confirmed outs, but Dale Morris could make his return. Rhylee West (MID – 117.3k) is also in the squad. Some big ins for the Dees with Big Maxy and Jake Lever declared fit to play. Marty Hore will miss with a broken collarbone and TMac is gone for the season. For the last game of the week, Port Adelaide also have no confirmed outs. Travis Boak should be right and Paddy Ryder has been named with Scott Lycett facing a fitness test. Cam Sutcliffe (MID – 199.5k) could debut. Eric Hipwood will miss the clash with injury and Luke Hodge is being managed. Jack Payne (DEF – 123.9k) is on the extended bench and could make his debut.   

The House of Evil

These rookies come with a free frogurt! (that’s good)

These premiums come with Potassium Benzoate (that’s bad)

Smooth Kevy’s Lock of the Week

Last week was a cautionary tale in keeping any remaining “powder” (trades) dry to use when you absolutely have to. There’s temptation to do luxury trades at this point but you’ll be kicking yourself when you need to avoid an on field donut in a few weeks and you have a big, fat 0 in available trades. Like clockwork, Josh Kelly has hurt his calf and miss the next 3 games. Recurring calf injuries and GWS injury reports are both terrible things that shouldn’t be trusted, so you need to trade. 

As the second priciest midfielder behind Jack Macrae, you can sideways him to anyone you like. However if you’re struggling to get a full premium team this is your chance to get some money in the bank to use on another upgrade. JPK is back to pumping out 100’s this year, he has 8 from 12 games (all 110+). That 68 in round 10 came from 57% TOG as he was injured. He doesn’t have those huge ceiling games that Josh Kelly can have, but he’s reliable and rarely draws a tag. Priced at exactly 100k less than Kelly and in only 1.2% of teams, JPK could prove to be difference in the run home.    

Hey Now, You’re a Draftstar

Adelaide will be keen to bounce back after a terribly underwhelming defeat to Port. There’s no better way to get back into the groove than taking on Gold Coast. For their part, they’ll want to show a bit of fight after copping a pasting by Richmond last week

RUC

The all conquering Reilly O’Brien (14k) comes up against Jarrod Witts (14.1k) this week. Gold Coast are second only to Melbourne in limiting points to opposition rucks. Witts won this battle back in round 5 123DS to 77 and the hit outs 46 to 34. Beware O’Brien’s 3-week average of 127, his massive scores have come against Soldo (146) and Rhys Stanley (128) 

DEF

Adelaide concede on average 8 more points to top 3 medium defenders and a whopping 19 more to the top 1 medium defender. Lachie Weller (11.8k) should be the beneficiary of this. Pearce Hanley (10k) had 29 possessions (22 kicks) last time these two teams met. Corey Ellis (7.2k) is cheap and draws a fantastic matchup. Jesse Joyce (9.2k) is in a little purple patch with a 3-week average of 83. If Brad Scheer heads to Rory Laird then Brodie Smith (11.7k) could see a little bump in scoring. 

FWD

Gold Coast have a lot of problems containing small/pacy forwards this year. Eddie (8k) and Lachlan Murphy (8.1k) combined to kick 9 on them in round 5. You could go back to the well and plug in these two again. We also have Tyson Stengle (5k). He has kicked 26 goals in 12 games in the two’s with 8 of those games being two or more. Hugh Greenwood (MID / 11.2k) is a bit more expensive but doesn’t necessarily need goals to score well due to his tackle floor. I’m a Sam Day (9.8k) fan and he’ll need to play a big part in this game if Gold Coast are a chance. 

MID

Draftstars 101: Target Gold Coast in the midfield. Over the 16 rounds so far they give up a massive 134.5DS per game to the oppositions number 1 midfielder and 118DS to top 3 midfielders. Take your pick out of Brad Crouch (15.2k), Rory Sloane (14.4k), or Matt Crouch (14.2k) or jam in all 3 if you can. Adelaide also concede a high amount of points through the middle. Brayden Fiorini (15k) is overpriced considering his recent output, but he loves playing at home and you might be able to snag him at low ownership as coaches load up on Adelaide mids. David Swallow (13k) and Anthony Miles (12.8k) are the ones in form for Gold Coast, while Will Brodie (12k) has put up some good numbers in his 6 games this year.   


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s c tragic

I'm almost paranoid, every player I bring in gets injured the same week,eg Daniels,Rockliff, last week was mixed bag brought in Boak & J Kelly, one in one out. Are we having fun yet??

Steeeve

tragic indeed!

details

Who are you bringing in this week?

TOPHAWK1

Great write up as always Kev!! Sweating on Lycett's fitness now that Paddy Ryder has come back. I sense more bloody canrage folks! Lets say our little prayers today.

SC_Kev7

Reckon he’ll be right, Hawk. But yeah, not great timing!

Nifty

Who you getting this week Champ, so i can cross them off my list..

s c tragic

Looks like Sicely and Oliver ATM . Do I dare.

Steeeve

Please don't I have those two

Sammy B

Egg- Smith or Quanyor who would be the best choice to get in as a cheap back man that will be able to sit on the bench this will allow me to get Lloyd and be full premo in the back line

Steeeve

Quaynor more likely to hold his spot surely

The crumbler

Howe will be back next week or the week after. May only get the 3 games out of him

John

9 trades and & $122k, my midfield is Macrae, Fyfe, Cripps, Cogs, Treloar, B Crouch, Stack and Clarke. Am thinking of going Stack to Sloane but also thinking of holding because Stack should still go up in price and I’m going for league wins and have a guaranteed win this week. The only trade I’m thinking of doing is Oskar Baker to Hanrahan via Jarrod Cameron. Next week I can then upgrade Stack. Thoughts?

Brn

Going for league wins or not, think you should try to upgrade your team. You could actually end up with too many trades left and not enough time to get full premium

John

I have 3 more rookies to upgrade including stack to get to full premo. This will probably get me to 4 trades left come SuperCoach finals. After this week if I have 8 left, next week I use 2 to get a premium and the week after I use another 2 which will get me to full premo. So I think I should be ok with how many trades I have left.

SC_Kev7

Sloane is a great option I reckon. If you’re not keen on him make a plan to get the premo’s you want

James

Pies fans, will quanor get a decent run?

TelescopicCox

I think so. He provided some decent run off half back

AuroraBorealis?!

Well we need some kind of spark off half back, will probably keep his spot provided he can keep his form up. Howe coming back in next will be the real test

RealDealNeale

Community. I'm stuck with Hore @ D6, Logue @ D7, and only 15K bank + 5 trades

Thoughts on Hore & Bewley > Sicily & Hill? Hill gives me a MID/FWD loop to swing Danger, Dunkley or Kelly into my middle if ever required.

Other option would be Hore > Quaynor or Hore & D.Clarke > Hill & Stewart

SC_Kev7

Like the Sicily/Hill option, RDN

Mikeee

Time to take good decisions <img src=&quotcomment image" width="1"/>

Steeeve

Need to win this week so I've abandoned my plans. Bringing in Stewart and Shiel for Logue and Jelly. This will leave me with Shiel at D8 but that's not too bad considering he'd be averaging 104 if not for pinging his hammy. He had a poor return from the hammy too (61) and without that his average would be over 106. A long drop off from Jelly but I just can't hold him. And Shiel is the best I can afford apart from maybe Robbie Gray (worried he will go forward with Boak, Rocky and Wines all playing midfield) or Pendles (who is a pretty underwhelming option imo).
Hurn hasn't been quite as good since his hammy so hoping Stewart and Hurn are going to average about the same from here.

Swans2012

I like Shiel, big ceiling, nice cheap m8, I’m 5k short of brayshaw to him unfortunately….

Steeeve

I like him too. But I'm still contemplating a far ballsier move.
I have a tough match-up this week, followed by two easybeats. I need to win all 3 to guarantee a spot in finals.
So my super risky option is to hold Josh Kelly (still bring in Hurn or Stewart for Logue). Put Kelly on the pine and play Clarke. Doing that I'm projected 2480. Opponent this week is projected 2410 but still has Logue so I'm not sure if they will end up trading him out or not. (Who knows if they still have trades, but I assume they do). If they make a couple of aggressive trades I'll have no hope and it will be 50/50 whether I make finals.
The upside of this super risky option is that I'll save one trade for finals (have four instead of three). Plus I'll have Josh Kelly instead of Dylan Shiel. Kelly is listed as being out 3 weeks which will mean he can ride the pine against the couple of easybeats in rounds 18-19 then HOPEFULLY be back for the first final. For what it's worth Toby Greene (no genius) said Jelly should only miss one or two.
Best case scenario: I have an amazing team for the finals, plus four trades.
Worst case scenario: I lose this week, other results don't go my way and I miss the finals — or I scrape into the finals but Kelly doesn't return anyway.
Season-defining decision coming up. What do you think?

foff

delete team

Russty_

Real constructive, go troll somewhere else.

Russty_

I'd still do the Shiel and Stewart trades Steve..Toby Greene ain't the sharpest tool in the shed.

COREYSC

Haha good call Russty for what it’s worth I think he must trade J.Kelly I am too 3 weeks could turn to 5 knowing GWS

Swans2012

Do the trades, make finals, worry about winning them once in

Steeeve

Thanks all haven't done them yet but will almost certainly do them. Just so tempted by a Jelly pod in the finals!!

Paul

Right, so I get Cripps and Gawn back but lose Hore, Logue, Gunstan and Parker. Lynch is still out. (Traded him in 1 hour before he got injured and have carried him for 5 weeks thinking he was only a week or so away every week!) Worst season ever!!

Anyway, looking at Parker > Jarrod Cameron for some cover and swing with Worpel M9/F7. (Or possibly M8/F6, the way things are going!)
Any good? Or is this Ian Hill worth a punt at a lower price?

Adsy

Cashing out JKelly and Logue, but thinking of two options – unsure which way to go:

1. TStewart and the Bont, or
2. Hurn and anyone from around the Treloar, Sloane, Cunnington pricepoint

Any suggestions? Bont potentially higher ceiling than the other mids, but Hurn the same over Stewart.

TelescopicCox

That's a tough one. I'd have Hurn & Sloane just above Stewart & Bont

Adsy

Yeah I had option 1 ready to roll but I've changed my mind and now going with Hurn/Sloane. Anyone with these two I apologise. I also said never again to Sloane after he let me down constantly in the past so lets see how it goes!

Stupid Coach

Sitting on 8 trades and playing only for leagues (one in particular) where I am second and can secure a top 4 spot with a win this week.

Tossing up whether to hold this week or should I go Parker to Hanrahan and Logue to Sicily (leaves 22k). Only other query with my team is whether Gawn plays as I have no one on the bench to cover him. If he does not play should I go Gawn to Grundy or Preuss instead of Logue to Sicily.

Appreciate any thoughts or suggestions.

SC_Kev7

Gawn will play. Like the Parker/Logue to Hanrahan/Sicily trades too

Sarah

Who would you pick, Tom Stewart or Luke Ryan?

iLoveNMFC

Stewart

DavidC

Ryan a chance of being a late out, go Stewart.

SamuraiPizzaCat

Look at Ryan's last two scores, I'd go with Tom Stewart

Russty_

Stewart, very reliable.

TommyC99

Hey guys, is it worth going a week early on ROB – Lloyd to avoid a donut?

Swans2012

I’d say yes, it’s only a little early anyway as both will likely drop some $$ this week, might only make 10k difference

Steeeve

Yep, wouldn't be early, ROB is at his peak price

Undypuncher

Mid upgrade. Can afford anyonebut I'm tossing up between jpk and lachie neale, thoughts?

TelescopicCox

Neale for me

SamuraiPizzaCat

Neale for sure

Russty_

Neale's your man.

Fearthebeard

3 trades left.

First in my league. Pretty much certain to make top 4

Daniels,
Jkelly,
Hore in my squad.

Jkelly I have cover for. The other two I no longer do.

Is it worth trading Daniels to heeney if I can risk the losses even copping donuts?

If I don’t go now I can’t afford him straight out for Daniels.

Hore is going for Whitfield or Sicily but yet again.
If I don’t move now on sicily I’m in trouble.

If I concede to use 3 trades on them and go jkelly to Oliver/Cunnington I can get sicily for hore and heeney fir danjels?

Though no trades for finals.

If I cop donuts I can have 3 trades for finals and hope Daniels and kelly return and fire for finals…

Thoughts?

TelescopicCox

If I were you I'd cop the donuts, despite losing out on Heeney & Sicily at their prices. I think trying to run the gauntlet of finals with 1 trade is a tough ask

Scarpi

Dear Community I have 6 trades left and 93k in the bank not sure what to do?
Any Advice would help.

DEF: LIoyd, Laird, Ryan, Houli, Sicily, Louge ( Rotham, Naish)
MID: Gaff, B Crouch, Taranto, Cripps, Neale, Fyfe, Dangerfield, Macrae ( Answerth,scott, Bewley)
RUCK: Gawn, Grundy (O'Brien)
FWD: Dunkley, Boak, Daniel, Kelly, Heeney, Chol ( Young, Bines)

TelescopicCox

Obvious problem is the donut down back.

I'd look at Bewley > Dunkley as a cash grab, and put that money on Logue to a premo option. If my maths is right that will get you Crisp as your best optoin

Other option is to go Rotham > Quaynor and play him at D6. Are you going for league or rank?

Scarpi

league im 6th atm

TelescopicCox

Logue news has completely stuffed me.

Current lineup is below:

B – Williams, Lloyd, Crisp, Andrew, Hore*, Logue* (Naish, Gardner)
M – J.Kelly*, Macrae, Fyfe, Treloar, M.Crouch, Neale, Cripps, Danger (Hately, Clarke, Bewley)
R – Gawn, Grundy (Bines)
F – Dunkley, Lycett*, T.Kelly, Heeney, Boak, Cameron (Chol,Young)

With news that Logue isn't even on the plane, I'm going to have to make some moves to cover my backline

1. Hore & Logue > Hurn & Quaynor. Downside is that Quaynor now becomes my D6 which is risky
2. Hore & Logue > Sicily & B.Smith or Short
3. Hore & R.Young > Stewart & Quaynor. Hold Logue in the hope he's back soon
4. Hore & Kelly > Sicily & Whitfield via DPP's. Would mean I'm playing Chol as F6 this week, having both Heeney & Danger as my M7 & M8. Risk is that Lycett is a late out without cover

Thoughts?

cash_cows

Man I hope Chol plays. Else I'm playing with a donut and I'm still sitting outside of the 8

Brn

Lucky you. Very lucky considering caddy and baker didnt make it

Will

I currently have 7 trades left and my team is at full premo. Only issue that I have with it is Cameron at F6. Is it worth using two trades to upgrade him to a good premo such as Ziebell or should I just hold onto him and eventually turn him into my F7.

Sam

Worth trading Burgess to Hanrahan for some forward cover?

Barry Ballbag

Time to trade ROB? Gawn playing so don’t need the cover anymore.

Lekdog

Cash him in

Steeeve

“I’m very confident they’ll be okay, I think they are going to play, but because it’s only Thursday and we are going to train again on Saturday we didn’t run Scotty too much today deliberately,” — Ken Hinkley

TheLostBoys

I was planning on using Hore and Logue as d6 for the next few weeks, until Whitfield was back and price had dropped. With Hore injured and Logue dropped, and Gardner as my other bench in defense, I now need to trade to avoid a donut.

Is it worth going early on bringing Whitfield in, or go for safety with Stewart or Ryan? Have ROB to trade out so can afford anyone.

Defence is Lloyd, Hurn, Laird, Williams, Sicily – Hore, Logue, Gardner

Brn

If you can get whitfield get him. Kelly out he will tear a new one. Wish i could afford him. Obvious hugher than normal injury risk but worth it

TheLostBoys

Thanks! Low on trades so whatever i do is risky – may as well go for it 🙂

Matt

I have Logue and Joel Garner on the field with no coverage. Want to trade one of them to Quaynor. Who out of the two is more likely to get called back into the squad? Garner did alright in the 2nds last week apparently but Logue seems to be the better player/scorer. Any insight would be great.

Brn

Reckon logue has beet chance if returning but still wouldnt hold your breath. He was stiff to miss out

Matt

Thanks mate.

Russty_

Agree with Brn Matt, Logue much more chance of getting back in.

Matt

Thanks Russty. Appreciate the advice fellas, I'm gonna keep Logue.

VC choice

Can Grundy keep up his elite scoring against NicNat?

Steeeve

I'm not banking on a huge outing from him but it seems reckless not to put the VC on him anyway. Hopefully Nic Nat only plays half the game and doesn't have the tank yet to keep Grundy from accumulating possies around the ground.

VC choice

Totally agree. I can't see NicNat staying with him but woweee he can jump

Brn

Nat will have managed minutes i reckon.
He is out of form too.

Grundy will get like 25+ touched too. He steps up when needed.in close games, which this should be. Means extra points

Russty_

Wouldn't say Nicnat's out of form with 99 and 88 from 50 % gametime from 2 games…. He might win the tapouts but Grundy does plenty of other good things around the ground in the meantime.
Reckon Nick will be on around half gametime for the rest of the year.

Derek

NicNat only plays 55% TOG

Daniel

Which 3 of K.Dunkley, I.Quaynor and O.Hanrahan are must haves/ have good JS as downgrade targets?

Steeeve

Really want to C Gawn. Can see him munching down an English breakfast.
Only worry is the obvious — does Preuss take too much of the ruck duty?

Brn

Gawn had 55 hitouts in round 4 with Preuss playing.

Think any concerns have to be significantly offsrt by the fact that most rucks have smashed english this year

Russty_

I think everytime we've doubted Gawn this year, he's proved us wrong, he's a beardy freak.

COREYSC

Except England are good and ranked no.1 in one day cricket Tim English is not no.1 haha

G.C.

Need some help once again community! Hore getting injured and Ross dropping Logue is leaving me with no money and a D6 donut.

6 trades left.
1) O. Baker, M. Gore -> K. Dunkley, T. Stewart ($11,700 in cash)
2) M. Hore -> I. Quaynor ($211,000 in cash)

I still have Gibbons and D. Clarke in the mids splitting M8 duty, which will be my last upgrade, so I don't need Dunkley for cover. I could get by with Quaynor as D6 for a bit, but will still need a second trade for a final D6 later anyway, don't trust his JS for the rest of the season. Running out of money and trades.

SC_Kev7

Wait on Quaynor I reckon. Pies haven’t done much on the rookie front this year

Brn

Heavy for those with at D6.

Chol made the cut for tigers

Daniel

Which 1 out of Dunkley, Hanrahan and Quaynoor is the best downgrade target over the next two weeks

TommyC99

If Luke Ryan is a late out, you'd assume it would be a straight swap as they play the same role.

Russty_

Dag mammit John!…what have they got against us?

Russty_

You're not wrong there…I'd feel a bit better if he was only "rested"

Russty_

Good thing about this game / torture is John, we can learn something from every year, just wish I could retain the information a bit better lol.

JugHead

Considering a slight variation on the Paul Roos policy next year. Gunna call it the "No Dockers policy".
Mundy's form drops off a cliff after the byes. Logue gets dropped when he's starting to look set. Ryan could be a late out.
They do it to me every year around this time of the season.
Can't wait for Ross to decide that Fyfe would make a really good full back.

Russty_

No Dockers or Giants maybe?…haha

Maverick_

Got a quick one for ya community.. so backline consists of:

Hurn Williams Ryan Sicily Smith Logue (Burgess naish)

Obviously hoped logue stuck around for a while longer.
Now my two options are:
A) Burgess too a rookie (quaynor?) play the rookie onfield Grabbing Lloyd/Whitfield next week after one more $ drop.
Or
B) don’t muck around go logue to Whitfield/Lloyd

Then which to take Whitfield or Lloyd?
I like Whitfield but his durability is a worry

Maverick_

How long is Jelly out for? Could be a factor in my decision

kyle

at least 3 weeks

Stickman

Martin to Oliver with 5 trades left or hold and save the trade?

Saritz

I guess it depends on your preference… Leagues or rank? Personally, Id hold. Trades a worth their weight in gold. Make sideways trades in another 2-4 weeks

Maverick_

I’d hold. 5 isn’t many if your playing for leagues no doubt a lot of carnage to happen between now and finals & during finals where trades will be gold

Russty_

Yeah Martin could have a few more high scoring games, but I think he doesn't care that much anymore, not his fault, he's struggling with mental health issues.

Fearthebeard

Has anyone got any fresh update on Daniels and his injury?

Still need to decide if I
Jump
On heeney?

Maverick_

306k & 8 trades
Due to my family growing by 1 in the recent weeks SC has taken a back seat and out of the loop with all team news and goss so any quick suggestions would be huge.

DEF: hurn Ryan Williams Sicily BSmith* Logue* (Burgess naish)

MID: Neale Fyfe Cripps Macrae Treloar Sloane Oliver MCrouch (Hately DClarke Bewley)

Ruck: Gawn ROB* (bines)

FWD: danger TKelly Dunkley Marshall Heeney Cameron* (Gardner setters)

I have * my weak links that ideally I’d love to upgrade before finals but Logue out will bleed my bank dry to get whit/Lloyd.

I would love to move Cameron on but at 400k I guess I have to hold n ride it out try loop him with setters when I can.

Swans2012

I don’t think rob to grundy gets any closer than this week. Just do it before you find a reason not to….. then I’d burgess/naish/logue to quaynor to avoid a doughy, I’d probably hold logue if poss as he has been good and might slip back in (or maybe not lol)

Maverick_

You think Rob to grundy is more important than going Logue to Whitfield/Lloyd?

Swans2012

Definately, just think there is a greater chance of rob dropping a 60-80 and losing plenty than Whitfield/Lloyd getting out of reach. Rob and grundy get further apart in value from here (most likely) whereas Lloyd and Whitfield both have high be, and will (should) get closer to logue even if not playing. But you’d still have to cover the defense donut. I’d downgrade burgess to quaynor to cover it and hold logue in case back next week. Just my 2 cents….

Swans2012

Not to mention not having grundy can ruin a round before it starts, I’ve bought him in for rob this week and feel better already….. nothing worse than watching everyone else Vc him as he bangs out a 150….

Swans2012

Seriously mav just do it lol

Maverick_

I missed it swan. I just hope nicnat plays more than 40% TOG and can nullify grundy.. I’m going to have to go Whitfield or Lloyd.
Burnt myself too often making rushed decisions minutes from the bounce or under the influence of alcohol haha

Swans2012

Looking like a magnificent call deep in the first quarter maverick well done

Swans2012

And just as I type it grundy shoots to 39 lol

TommyC99

I am also a cameron owner. I've got him at F7 to loop with Hawkins which makes me a little less nervous about owning him. I brought him in with the view he has a nice run home. Hopefully he can deliver

Russty_

Jarrad Cameron's scoring better than the Giants spud.

hedski

Congrats on the new addition Mav 👍
Cover that donut in def mate.

Maverick_

Thanks hedski. It’s certainly a special feeling 🙂
I didn’t go Rob to grundy so Logue -> Whitfield/Lloyd it is.

Russty_

Congrats on your new Family member Mav 🙂 cheers mate.

The Ranger

Congrats on the +1 Mav, enjoy the ride!

And get Lloyd in.

Maverick_

Thanks guys I’m loving the lifestyle change she a little gem.

Logue too Lloyd is done I can’t trust Whitfield’s durability even though they have a comfy run home that means nothing if his not on the park. Cheers

Fearthebeard

Community could really use some advise. Posted earlier but think it is to far up for people to read! Make or break for me now! As many views and opinions is greatly appreciated as I’m stumped and not been in a position to win like this
And would love to stick it up the old boy and his and my mates lol!

3 trades left.

First in my league. Pretty much certain to make top 4

Daniels,
Jkelly,
Hore in my squad.

Jkelly I have cover for. The other two I no longer do.

Is it worth trading Daniels to heeney if I can risk the losses even copping donuts?

If I don’t go now I can’t afford him straight out for Daniels.

Hore is going for Whitfield or Sicily but yet again.
If I don’t move now on sicily I’m in trouble.

If I concede to use 3 trades on them and go jkelly to Oliver/Cunnington I can get sicily for hore and heeney fir danjels?

Though no trades for finals.

If I cop donuts I can have 3 trades for finals and hope Daniels and kelly return and fire for finals…

Thoughts?

Russty_

How many Leagues are you in mate?…if it's only the one, maybe just hold and retain those trades.

Brn

Who is your cover for j kelly?

If its someone like clark, get rid of kelly asap. Bounce is about to happen. Will post more below

Fearthebeard

Yeh it’s Clark as best option.

Brn

Look the decision is really up to you on this one, and your goals going forward.

May as well as cop the donuts for now if finals are your only goal. Daniel will be good in roughly 2 weeks, so keep him. Kelly could be a great finals pod considering his run. All the best

Fearthebeard

thanks Brn.

With that said
Might just sit and go for Whitfield next week if he bleeds some
Cash otherwise jump
On sicily I guess?

Fearthebeard

Only worried about the one rusty as it’s familt and friends lol

Derek

i know i'm the only person with Gunston and one of the very few who still has Duursma on field, and possibly one of just a couple who still has Parker (saints) and probably one of a handful who brought JKelly in last week……… but this is getting very difficult.

The magnets are flying everywhere this week.

good luck fellas, i'm going to need it.

Fearthebeard

Ouch Derek. I hear ya but that’s rough. Chin up

Holty01

U2 mate.

Russty_

Had Duursma, Logue on field and Parker on bench, Hore last week, didn't have Kelly thank Buddha.
Am able to field a full side but now have no cover in the backline or fwd line…fun!
Most of my trades were towards making sure I had cover.
silly game haha

Russty_

Bines has a permanent Hernia so good for loopholing.

Russty_

Big Grundy is warming up now Holty.

Defying_Madness

Cameron is pretty handy bench cover

Defying_Madness

What a gun, might have to take off a premo at this rate.

Steeeve

Loving him, won't lose sleep if Lycett is a late out now!

Pieman

Go chol over Cameron they said… it'll be fun they said :,(

Russty_

He's on 41 points now John, with 3 minutes to go in the first quarter.
He'll be fine I'm thinking.

Russty_

Wow, the West Coast Eagles really know how to seek out the talent from the indigenous players…Willie Rioli, Jarrod Cameron, Liam Ryan currently, as well as all the guns they've picked in the past, more clubs should follow suit.
They make the whole game more exciting for everyone.

Big G

Agree russty

Russty_

Must be hard for some of these lads Big G, especially if they come from remote areas, but hell, they're loaded with skills and I love watching them work their magic….Hope us ignorant white fellas can figure out a way to make life easier for the indigenous new recruits/ players.
Apparently, that's a big problem, is the homesickness.
Indigenous players seem to be born to play AFL Footy, so talented, so much natural ability.

Russty_

Yeah John, Farmer was a gun, Nicky Winmar was one of my favourites growing up.
Liam Jurrah was awesome too, shame he came undone along the line.

BadNewsBear

Russty I see positive sentiment in your comment and I believe that it comes from kind and noble intentions the intent of my response isnt to assault you but we need to be careful of creating stereotypes of any kind, praise based on race is racism. eg. "You people are very good at…" can be received as offensive and exclusionary even though it is delivered with complimentary intent. When somebody says that to me part of me hears "you're not like us" or "you're as good as us at…"

Also, the three men that you mentioned come from nations and cultures as far away and different from each other as Finland is from Greece and there are twice as many nations in between. You wouldn't bundle the Nordics, Brits, and Mediterraneans into the same cultural demographic and you shouldn't bundle different indigenous Australian cultures into a single demographic either.

European attempts to destroy the individual cultures of the Australian continent DO fit the UN definition of genocide and the continued failure of Australians to recognise the different cultures of the Australian continent and islands is an aid to the genocidal act.

Holty01

Moore. 😫

Russty_

Brought him into my draft side this week Holty, good call…not.

Russty_

Onya Grundy, you big long-haired glasses wearing Hippy bastard….74 at half time, very nice thank you big fella.

Maverick_

84 at 3QT though. I won’t be rushing into gettin him I’ll monitor nicnat for a couple more weeks hope they increase his TOG perfect swap for ROB. Save 150k

Swans2012

Pods are only good if they outscore the alternative mav, grundy is a no alternative lock,
Nat did look good early though….

Russty_

I'll take that 137 thank you very much sir.

COREYSC

Mayne putting in close attention to Hurn been running with him all night

Russty_

Could've been the game changer COREY…didn't help my draft side much though haha

COREYSC

Haha have you got Mayne? Or Hurn?

Russty_

I have both in one of my sides…draft, Afl Fantasy but not Supercoach, think Hurn could be affected score-wise now with Barrass and Shephard back.
Mayne is a very unattractive man…with a bad hairstyle…lol

SamuraiPizzaCat

I need to bring someone into defence with Logue, Naish, Gardner not playing. And I have Jelly out, have rookie cover with D Clarke. Any thoughts on these options? I'm two off full premo with 9 trades left and $43k in bank.

Option 1
Logue -> Sicily
Jelly -> Shiel

Option 2
Setterfield -> Sicily (Gardner DPP)
Jelly -> JPK

Option 3
Logue -> Stewart
Jelly -> K Dunkley
Next week
Setterfield -> Quayner (Gardner DPP)
Clarke -> Bont

Russty_

I like option 1 Pizzacat, reckon you could keep Setters, and Quaynor might not be a good choice after all…JPK is old, Dunkley might not last long.

SamuraiPizzaCat

That's the move I'm leaning towards. I can also loop Setterfield and Chol this week which could be handy. Cheers Russty.

Ja191

Quaynor with the 3 point second half lol

Russty_

He did look a bit dodgy in the JLT….a bit panicky.

Russty_

Great stuff from the Pies…and struggling with a lot of injuries too.

Steeeve

Great game! We're lucky Nic Nat didn't play more, Grundy beasted Hickey in the fourth. Yet another VC to lock in — or if you're looking at a narrow loss you can throw the C on a Sunday gun.
Now for Fed v Nadal. Who even needs sleep?

Russty_

Sleep is for suckers Steeeeve, sport is more important 🙂

COREYSC

Setting the good old Timer Record for that one be worth a watch tomorrow arvo for sure! Should be a ripper and I Don’t even care who wins, both deserving either way!

Sam_01

Well Vc Grundy and treloar tonight, I went whitfield instead of hurn this week don’t want to go early but It may be looking the right choice

Shake_n_bake

Nice to wake up early in Ireland to watch my pies get up 🇨🇮⚫️⚪️🍀

Russty_

Do they have Whiskey for breakfast there Shake?…and then a fight before lunch?…pretty cliche right …lol
Congrats on the Pie's win, it was a gutsy effort.

Shake_n_bake

Haha not far off Russty!!!!

Shake_n_bake

Didn’t get to see them in there 2 loses Neil. l know they were very ordinary. Bit lower than no 2 l think.

Sam_01

I feel like the heeney pick has more upside John! Especially with the upcoming teams

Russty_

Probably best to get the best defender you can this week John, I went Hore to Lloyd…All or nothing.

Ned_Starkers

The support for VC Grundy on here was too strong so I went with it, thanks community 😉

ROB to Sicily my only trade so far this week. Thinking hold Duursma given no price drop and take a peek at Whitfield.

6 trades left, $135k cash. Westhoff still tempting and would love to find room for Neale, but that could easily happen by injuries.
Would really appreciate any feedback on team and next moves!

Lloyd, Hurn, Williams, Laird, Sicily, Answerth (Logue, Naish)
Macrae, Fyfe, PCripps, Cogs, Oliver, Cunnington, Sloane, BCrouch (Hately, Clarke, Duursma)
Grundy, Gawn (Bines)
Danger, Boak, Dunkley, TKelly, Heeney, Billings (Setters, Burgess)

John

Who to trade in for Stack this week, I can get any midfielder I want. My midfield is Macrae, Fyfe, Cripps, Cogs, Treloar, B Crouch, Stack, Clarke. Was thinking out of Sloane or Oliver but can’t decide, any suggestions?

Sam_01

I’d be looking at the Bont or Neale John to throw one into the mix

JugHead

Yep. I'm in an almost identical situation and those are the two I'm looking at. Leaning toward Neale, but I don't know why. What I like is both their teams are in good form, and it is rare for them to miss games.

JugHead

Having said that, I've already got Sloane and Oliver. My mids are Macrae, Fyfe, Cripps, Cogs, Oliver, Treloar, Sloane, Stack.

Derek

Oliver or Neale

allmobitools

Awesome post admin thanks for sharing.

FearTheBeard

Anyone know anything firm on L Ryan.

Just realised my two duck eggs right now of Daniels & Hore might be tolerable for a win.

He has Duursma out and hopefilly Ryan:x

FearTheBeard

Also on a side note is it really worth looking at Hawkins or Cameron as a F6? If I have to make a move with Daniels?

I can essentially get Hore & Daniels out for Whitfield and Hawkins/Cameron.

Otherwise Sicily & Heeny might work?

Derek

in our grand final week, Hawkins plays Carlton and Cameron plays Suns, they might go crazy and win a GF for those who have them

Both teams have a great run during our finals, especially GWS with 3 home games.

They would be great F7’s with a free swing from the bench, to up and down.

If I had to pick, Hawkins, or Buddy

I am looking very closely at Jy Simpkin

Fearthebeard

Thanks Derek.

So you would go Hawkins over Cameron if it means you get Whitfield over sicily? What about Mundy?

Or would you get sicily instead of Whitfield if it means heeney instead of the other forwards?

Dash

Logue to Stewart this week? Wait one week on Whitfield?
Or
Go straight for Whitfield?
Any other defenders I should look at. Advice?

FearTheBeard

I have Stewart he is solid and reliable. Not the ceiling Whitfield has.

I have Hore as my D6 and still trying to hold on and cop donuts while I make my decision too.

Whitfield is the target but after missing the game last week I want to see his shoulder is ok before I pull the trigger there with so little trades.

Laird, Hurn, Williams, Stewart, Lloyd are all my d1-d5.

Whitfield and Sicily will be the choices for D6 in my opinion.

Derek

I have visions of Whitfield going 170 again

I’m getting him this week. My hand has been forced with Duursma not playing, I prob would have waited a week and see how he is going. But no Kelly and Coniglio probably sore, he might go very well.

Maverick_

I went Logue too lloyd this morning instead of Whitfield and I will say I’m regretting it.. Whitfield’s durability scares me but GWS’s draw is so cushy he can go huge without kelly. Just get him in

FearTheBeard

After carefully looking into my team sober I am truly stumped now LOL. As mentioned I'm leading my league and look safe to make top 4 even losing and copping donuts. The league finals is all that I am focused on as it's with family and friends mainly.

I only have 3 trades left but with headaches in Daniels, JKelly & Hore.

I can cover JKelly and feel he is worth holding to finals. Hore is gone. Has to go. Daniels is due back in 1-2 weeks and can't do much there.

I'd been planning Hore to Whitfield though his 3 last week and Whitfield not returning to bleed faster has hurt that. I can still make it happen by cutting either Clarke or Baker (especially if he is gone now)

Though it's going to chew 2 trades either way.

Am I better of just cutting Hore now for Sicily and avoiding the donut?

Williams, Lloyd, Hurn, Laird, Stewart, (hore here and needs to go), Naish, Gardner

Macrae, Fyfe, Cripps, Cogs, Neale, Bont, Rocky, Clarke on field for JKelly this week and Stocker, Baker on bench with him.

Grundy, Gawn, Fort

Danger, Marshall, Dunkley, Boak, Kelly, (Daniels currently donut), Burgess, Bines.

I can possibly win this week even while holding JKelly, Daniels & Hore.

This is where I can't decide.

Sicily can come in now with a decent depth player for Baker or someone. It's going to cost two trades regardless.

Am I better copping the donut on Hore this week. Getting a look at Whitfield hoping he bleeds some cash and making a move for him instead? Perhaps that roo's rookie in his second game goes alright and is a mid/fwrd swing so I could use him to cover the forward line somewhat too if he is held.

Though if I go Sicily I can get him in now and avoid donuts by going Sicly & C Taylor (that roo's kid) for Burgess & Hore?

Leaves me 1 trade and hope Daniels and JKelly return soon?

TMac

You mightn't like the answer, but if you only care about leagues, and you are going to be top 4 anyway, best bet is to hold the trades.

If you could use only 1 trade for Hore to Sicely, that would be OK (as he is gone for the year), but 2 trades when you only have 3 left is too much.

Work out the best defender you can afford with 1 trade, and see if you like it.

I am doing the Logue to Sicely trade myself this week (but I do have 9 trades left)

Derek

You would think a broken collarbone would be 4-6

Derek

Hore to Sicily no brainer

Hawks have a tough run, ball will be in defence a lot

My only fear is Gunston gone down and if Sicily goes forward again

Fearthebeard

Appreciate the effort guys to take the time.

Over 3 views its almost exactly how I’ve said I can’t agree with myself. I go to bring sicily in for hore and at the moment that c Taylor rookie for Roos just to make the other rookie going out a non playing spud like burgess.

Though then I go if I’m going to burn two trades so I go for Whitfield and see how it is in a couple weeks closer to the finals
On jkelly and Daniels?

Confusing myself non stop. What would you guys do?

The Ranger

If you're def making the top 4 and you only have 3 trades I'd hold Beard.
You could easily cop another 2 injuries on the run home and if you burn trades now ya buggered.

Fearthebeard

I hear ya ranger. Though my concern is hore is 356k or 359k. He has to go. No cover. Was my d6

In 2-3 weeks sicily is far out of price. If Whitfield doesn’t bleed cash I’m stuffed for a average d6

Right now I could also part with Daniels who’s giving me 0 for another 2 weeks and go sicily and any of Hawkins, Cameron, Mundy. Thinking Hawkins maybe as he’s got that rata back this week and before he was out he was scoring well. His last 3 crap games have been when he’s out so all the attention on him?

In a couple weeks Daniels back: so can avoid that trade though hore has copped 0 and drifted further away from a premium. I could cut Clarke then if jkelly is back and gives me say 150k to add to hore so could spend 500k max at sicily/Whitfield?

Laurie

Hi just after some help please need to make some cash as I’m still 4 away from full premo and am looking to trade ROB. I have Grundy and Gawn and a bit worried about Gawn should I trade to Pruess I know it’s late but will still put $235k in the kitty and 6 trades left? Will have some some cover just in case or choose the lowest price duck not playing as there aren’t many options available? Thanks

Sana

Sloane or JPK community? Pros and cons please. Really struggling to decide on this one.

Derek

Crows have Suns, Essendon and Carlton next 3.

Even though Swans have Carlton this week, they have Freo (away), cats, GWS and Port

Match ups favour Crows

JPK’s best days are behind him, I’d go Sloane unless you want a big POD

Sana

Thanks Derek, I thought the same, then read this from SC Insider:

Sloane’s avg vs top 8 this year 118.8

Sloanes avg vs bottom 10 96.5

Assuming this is true given the slight price diff and pod factor I’ve gone JPK. Wish me luck…

dontblushbaby

Does anyone see Duursma or Logue getting back in their teams this year ?

Russty_

Hi Dbb, I heard on the Radio this morning someone from Freo saying that Logue needs to work on his defensive skills more in the 2's, when asked if Logue would get back into the side.
I think Duursma will get back in, not sure on Logue though.

The Ranger

I took a punt with the VC on Treloar and I'm not going to take his 125.
Macrae, Bont, Neale, Fyfe, Sloane, Cripps or Oliver for the big C?

Maverick_

Gee how do you split them.. GC give a huge amount of points away to opposition midfielders so I’ve VCd Sloane into Neale thinking Neale is pretty safe but can see Sloane tearing apart the suns

The Ranger

Got Danger too who's at home to the Saints.
And Hawkins is due a bag…tough choice this week.
I'm away to the bush in an hour so I might just put the names in a bag and pick one out!

Maverick_

Yeah I’m worried about the tag of Steele on danger. deboer and hutchings closed him out already this year Steele could very well do the same. But hard to ignore his form of late and they’re at home. I can’t split any of them sorry haha

The Ranger

I need every point John and my cut off is 130.
One of those boys is def gonna beat 125…just gotta pick the right one!

hedski

I reckon Witherden is due to go huge Ranger, you should go him.
Definately has nothing to do with me playing you twice this round 🤔

The Ranger

Haha ha! I knew you'd have some sage advice for me Hedski.
Think I'm just gonna run with Macrae.

hedski

Just thought I'd throw it out there, good luck mate.

iLoveNMFC

Just saw a video on Twitter, Lycett says he'll be right to go for tomorrow's game. Fingers crossed.

TelescopicCox

Not sure of what to do to cover my Logue at D6

A – Logue to Short
B – R.Young to Eggmolese
C – R.Young to Birchall
D – Kelly to Whitfield via DPP (Heeney to M8)

Derek

Who covers Heeney in forward line if you go with 4?

Laurie

Need some advice need to make some cash is trading ROB to Pruess a good move? I know I’m a week late but I’m worried about not having cover in case Gawn is rested down the track will leave me with $235 in the kitty and 6 taxes?

dontblushbaby

JPK is turning back the clock with a huge first quarter

Maverick_

Not sure going lloyd over Whitfield was the best move.
I was worried about Whitfield’s durability but if he’s fit I think he can go huge til seasons end especially if kelly misses a few weeks. Lloyd looks to have started slow this game, ordinary first half, please lift!

Maverick_

I didn’t want to cop a donut John in too many tight leagues. Logue being dropped forced my hand unfortunately! I had naish on the bench and Burgess and wasn’t interested in burning a trade on burgess down to a rookie for 1 week cover. 71 at 3QT he may scrape in for a 95 but CD does love Lloyd late in games especially close ones

Russty_

Think he'll still ton up Mav, maybe not a big one though.

Russty_

Could've been a knee jerk reaction to their smashing last week John, he could be back I guess but from what I heard, they said he hasn't played a lot of footy in the last few years and needed to work on his defensive craft.

Pranav

Fyfe in the rooms hopefully isn’t too serious

Big G

Fyfe is superman

Pranav

Yeah I definitely spoke too soon 3 goals before half time what a gun

Russty_

Hope he doesn't get rested next week…his Shoulder is still dodgy.

Steeeve

If Heeney and Sicily don't lift it could be my season done. Lift boys!!

Russty_

Not looking good is it mate, I have em both too…Sicily needs a huge last quarter just to post something half decent.

Steeeve

Didn't happen. I've sacrificed my dream team to get a win this week. Looks like ive lost anyway and stuffed my team too. Oh well always nect year

Steeeve

Yeah same usually except this week was a must win. I'm on track to lose which will mean I can't make finals in my cash league. Bye bye $$

Ricardo

6 sides you would flick next year for premos haw,fre,nth,gcs,stk,pta

The crumbler

Does anyone know how to check your trade history?

Russty_

On the My Team page, click on History and then down to the right in Team Tracker is Trade History.

The Lost Boys

Do we go with Setterfields mid 60 score, or hope that Dylan Clarke can do well against the roos and beat that? Setterfield was looking so good at half time, but has scored pretty much nothing for the second half 🙁

What do you think, community?

Russty_

I'd probably take the 65..pretty solid rookie score.

The Lost Boys

Yeah – Clarke has had rather average scores after his first two games. Looked so promising!

Russty_

Don't they all mate …in their first 2 games?
Ended up on 70 points…not bad.

Russty_

Sicily…how could someone play so well one week, and then completely spud it up the next week?..makes ya wanna pull your hair out.

Holty01

I know🤦🏼‍♂️

Derek

he dropped 3 easy chest marks. That is 10-15pts there. Hawks did have ball in their forward line a lot, so it wasn’t down his end. Birchall took a lot of the linking kicks today

hedski

Goddammit took the Swans in my knockout tipping

Russty_

Don't think anyone expected a Coach with "training Wheels" on to do so well so quickly, especially Juddy lol nice win Blues.

Fearthebeard

So glad I didn’t jump for sicily and heeney lol. This week anyway.

Russty_

I'm glad I didn't get Ziebell or Cunnington in…pair of yoyos.

SamuraiPizzaCat

Can't say my Sicily and Shiel trade ins worked out too well lol. Hope just an off week.

Holty01

Zac Clarke seriously. Where was this last week?
You get towelled up against Allir and start competitively against Goldy. I really don’t understand.

Swans2012

Agree 100%

TOPHAWK1

Who knows Holty. Maybe he was feeling crook. He does look one hell of a lot better today though. At least he will start making some cash for you now.

Holty01

Yeah true Hawk. But would have rather the points last week.

KeenButClueless

I’m with you Holty. I wasted a trade for him last week. I could have used Lycett and had Parker on field. But I really thought he would go 80+ against Allir and make cash. Running low on trades so I might not even get to use the cash generation!

Sam_01

Absolutely filthy at him holty! Hopefully he can Atleast build some form and provide cover in the future if needed and not dish up a 30 odd

Derek

Goldy only scored 132 against him, thought he could have gone bigger