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SuperCoach Panic Room: Round 16

Published by Kev on

The bye rounds may be officially over but we still had some round 15 wobbles to remind us all that the SuperCoach Gods are vengeful little S.O.B’s that care not for our post bye rounds rankings charge. Danger, Maxy, and LLLLLLLLloyd all had weeks to forget and we need to consider this a warning folks, our premiums have been running around for almost 4 months. The general soreness starts to kick in and those little niggles start to turn into 1-2 weeks on the sidelines. There’s still potentially eight weeks left to go if you make it to a league grand final, don’t trade unless you need to.

Patch returned from his secret*, illegal** offshore dealings in the Cayman Islands in time for the podcast this week and let me just say thank GOD he is back. Lek smells bad, and Damo wants something but I don’t know what.

*Oh, crap! I shouldn’t have said it was a secret.

Damo’s true form

Patch and Lek discussed all things good this week in the podcast. Damo’s captain smokey last week, Scott Lycett, went HAM last week and busted out a casual 165SC. Get his picks for this week here. Matty has changed up the cheat sheet this week with some sneaky POD’s that can get you a leg up on the competition. 

**Oh, crap! I certainly shouldn’t have said it was illegal.

The News

Plenty happening this week at the selection table. Rocky is back for Port after a 74 week hamstring injury (slight exaggeration, but feels that way). Justin Westhoff and his ruck/forward swing makes a timely return. Sandiballs will play his first game in over a year. Lachie Whitfield is on an extended bunch. Still no Patrick Cripps, but Max Gawn and Patrick Dangerfield have been named and if Sunday teams are kind to us we could have up to six new rookie downgrades available in the coming weeks.

For tonight, Ben McEvoy will be solo rucking after Jono Ceglar was dropped. Pinchy Stratton makes his return after suspension. Jamie Elliot is back after a long injury layoff and popular preseason rookie Isaac Quaynor (DEF – 153.3k) will make his debut.   

On Saturday, Essendon continue their bizarre selection choices by dropping Kyle Langford and Josh Begley. Zac Clarke will replace Tom Bellchambers in the ruck. Sydney have chosen not to replace the injured Callum Sinclair with another ruck, instead recalling Harry Cunningham. Gold Coast have chopped Will Brodie despite a solid run of games. Josh Corbett gets another chance. The Tigers have another rookie debut in running halfback Derek Eggmolesse-Smith (DEF – 102.4k)

There are 7 changes between Adelaide and Port Adelaide for Showdown XLVII. Josh Jenkins is back after that terrible looking knee injury against Richmond, Wayne Milera is back and Bryce Gibbs has been dropped again. Karl Amon and Dougal Howard join Rocky and Westhoff for the Power, bubble boy Peter Ladhams is among the outs. In the Derby out west, Rory Lobb joins Aaron Sandilands amongst ins. Brett Bewley has been dropped and Sean Darcy “managed” (dropped). There will be no Mark Hutchings tag and Jeremy McGovern is straight back in after his week off. No changes for the Cats for their game against the Dogs, Toby McLean replaces the injured Caleb Daniel

On Sunday, Charlie Curnow will miss for the Blues with injury and Oskar Baker has been dropped by the Dees. Matthew Cottrell (MID/FWD – 102.4k) and Hugh Goddard (DEF – 159k) are in the squad. Brayden Preuss has been named in case Maxy doesn’t get up in time. There’s also a possible debut for Kyle Dunkley (MID – 102.4k). North Melbourne will have at least one change after Kyron Hayden’s season ending injury. Mid season draftee, Lachlan Hosie (FWD – 102.4k), is on an extended bench. Curtis Taylor (MID/FWD – 117.3k) could play his second game. The Saints have added four names without a confirmed out as yet. For the last game of the round, Shane Mumford will miss for the Giants, Matthew Flynn (RUC – 123.9k) and Dawson Simpson have been named. Jake Stein (DEF – 123.9k) could return and Ian Hill (MID/FWD – 117.3k) could debut. At the Lions, former Dog Marcus Adams has again been named in the squad.  

The House of Evil

These rookies come with a free frogurt! (that’s good)

These premiums come with Potassium Benzoate (that’s bad)

Can I go now? (Trade bait)

Smooth Kevy’s Lock of the Week

Caleb Daniel is the 5th most popular premium forward and he needs to be replaced this week after a ‘moderate grade’ hamstring injury against Port will sideline him for the next 3-4 weeks. The silver lining here was the injury came in the 4th quarter and he’d put up 88SC in that time, meaning his price didn’t plummet. Priced at 532k, only fellow Dog Josh Dunkley may be out of reach but you can sideways to another top 10 forward for as little as 19k (Tim Kelly).  

But should you get a little funky to generate cash AND keep up decent output? It may only net you 21k, but Jack Ziebell is averaging 111SC since Rhyce Shaw took over coaching duties at the club. You can be confident hell keep his midfield role until the end of the year. If you listened to the podcast this week, Lek frothed all over Sam Petreski-Seton. Owned by less than 3,000 coaches, he is averaging 105 since David Teague arrived and a trade to him will net you 88.9k. 

Hey Now, You’re a Draftstar

After a uhh, less than ideal opinion about Shaun McKernan last week being an absolute Draftstars spud (which he is Patch, fight me!) I’ll be avoiding Essendon games now that Tom Bellchambers is injured and a I refuse to have Shaun in my lineups. It’s a double Derby round this week, let’s head west and look at West Coast facing off against Fremantle.

RUC

Tom Hickey (FWD / 9.8k) still managed to put up 77DS on the back of 21 hitouts and 7 tackles last week against the Hawks despite sharing ruck duties with Nic Nat (11.5k). Fremantle have conceded 89DS to rucks this season and 99DS over the past month, so a double ruck stack is in play in you want to go in that direction.   

However, there’s a wrinkle in these plans. Those numbers don’t take into account the return of Aaron Sandilands (10.9k), so both these guys may get less of the hitouts they did last week. Nic Nat only had 6 disposals last week, if he’s not winning the hitouts his score will suffer. Rory Lobb (FWD / 11.8k) is also in the team, so I’m not real interested in playing a Fremantle ruck until I see how their partnership works out.

FWD

Both sides have had their issues containing medium forwards this year and both sides have a bunch. Sam Switkowski (7.6k) only has one goal to his name in the past month but averages 60 in that time. Switta gets his numbers from tackling, so if he can jag a goal or two he’ll push that 70-80 mark. I’ve enjoyed playing Jamie Cripps (10k) these past few weeks, he brings 80 point upside and has topped that mark in 4 of his 6 games at Optus this year. Michael Walters (MID / 13.5k) and his massive ceiling is always in play. Liam Ryan (8.8k) spent more time up the ground last week with Jarrod Cameron and Willie Rioli taking crumbing duties and is in play again this week if those two stay in the team.

Jack Darling (9.9k) and Josh Kennedy (8.4k) *could*be fantastic value. Or they *could* both tank spectacularly. Slot one in if you’re feeling brave or both if you’re an absolute madman.    

DEF

As was the case with medium forwards, both sides have let medium defenders get off the hook this year. West Coast in particular have conceded huge points to Lachie Whitfield (133), Tow Stewart (124), and Jake Lloyd (149). Luke Ryan (11.1k) has a massive ceiling when he gets going, and then there’s Connor Blakely (MID / 11.7k). Is he back? (in Pog form). He’s had 6 games now since returning from injury and picked up 31 touches and 5 marks against the Blues. Shannon Hurn (13.7k) hasn’t tonned up for a month but brings 120+ point upside. 

If you’re looking to be a bit sneaky and save a bit of dosh at the same time, both sides are in the top 5 when it comes to conceding points to key backs. This brings Jeremy McGovern (9.8k), Tom Barrass (9.4k), and Griffin Logue (8.8k) into play.  

MID

Mitch Crowden (5.7k) will play his first game of the year. A “Lachie Neale clone” in the words of Damo, he probably won’t get a lot of midfield time but his tackling form in the WAFL is outrageous. He’s had 59 in the past 6 weeks and if he can bring that to the big stage he’ll hit value.  Darcy Tucker (9.9k) is having a great time following Nat Fyfe around and getting some easy touches. Chasing a Chris Masten (8.2k) junk game is a pain so I’m not doing it this week (watch him do just this as soon as I don’t pick him).

From here it’s trying to jam in as many guns as you can. A Jack Redden (13.5k) ceiling game is a beautiful thing. His past 3 against Freo? 127, 133, 124. Minus his concussion affected score in round 3, Nat Fyfe (15k) averages a ridiculous 115 at Optus so far this year and will enjoy not having Mark Hutchings breathing down his neck. Andrew Gaff (16k) averages an even more ridiculous 122 at the venue so far this year. Elliot Yeo (14.9k) gives a greater ceiling at a cheaper price than Gaff, however he doesn’t share the same level of consistency.   


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Saritz

If Maxy gets up and Lycett is locked into my ruck line I am potentially leaving a lot of points on the bench. I have up until tomorrow afternoon, when the port game begins to decide. I assume many are in the same position. So if anyone has any in- the-know info either way on Gawn, could you please, please, PLEASE let the community know. Thanks!!

TelescopicCox

Sounds like Maxy is training tomorrow morning with the Port game at the twighlight spot. Hopefully we know before kick off if Max is out

Saritz

Anyone who is attending this training, can they please drop us a line on here of how he looks! Cheers

Swans2012

Hate to break it to you saritz but even if he is a 90% chance of being out chances are they will keep it under wraps until the late changes come out, even if it is only to keep the opposition guessing.

SC_Kev7

Agree with Swans. Goodwin was good on his word to give Maxy ever possible chance to get up so that's a positive. He's not GWSing us by giving bogus injury news. It's a swelling thing rather than structural or bone bruising. All we can do is hope 🤞

TelescopicCox

Plenty of ways I can go this week. With 2 trades I'll be down to 5 trades left:

1. O.Baker & Hore > Sloane & Stewart. Logue only rook left at D6 but no cash in bank. Cop a donut from Gawn too
2. Begley & O.Baker > Chol & Lycett. Move Danger to M8, with Lycett becoming my F6. Hore & Logue only rooks on field
3. Begley & O.Baker > Z.Clarke & Sloane. Leaves we with $144,200 to upgrade my defenders over the coming weeks.

SC_Kev7

Like option two assuming you've got a R/F swing at R3 for Lycett in case Gawn is out. Chol's js beyond this week looks shaky but you never know, Dimma has been good with rewarding the form of rookies this year

TelescopicCox

Yep Kev I've got Bines to swing with Lycett for a week. Option 2 is the way I'm leaning as it covers Gawn and allows Whitfield to hopefully drop in price before jumping on

Swans2012

That’s it I’m bringing in Clarke, means I have to shelve the brayshaw to jpk trade indefinately (I hate you brayshaw) but I reckon Clarke at r3 will be worth the trade by seasons end….

Mikeee

Thank you as usual! <img src=&quotcomment image" width="1"/>

SC_Kev7

Thanks for reading, Mikeee!

Connor

1. Take a risk with Daniel >> Ziebell and have Wilkie / Logue on field (potential to get Dunkley later)

2. Trade Daniel >> Stewart and have Setterfield on field

SC_Kev7

Z for ceiling, Stewart for consistency. Logue only had two marks against the Blues and still managed 67. If that's his floor I'll keep him on field until Whitfield bottoms out

hedski

Gary Rohan as emergency has me wondering if Danger will be a late out.
Still deciding who to bring in for Daniel, Lycett and swing him up for Gawn cover or Boak and take the possible Gawn donut.
Either way I think I'll end up copping a zero.

Swans2012

I’m concerned as well hed, i think he’ll play but I’ve sent him up to the mids to cover Cripps (via setterfield) where if he’s a late out I’ve got plenty of cover just in case…

Sarah

Lycett or Marshall?

Michele

So I’ve got a dilemma. I think I’m happy to run with the Gawn donut as most would. However I’m not sure whether to cull Dylan Moore. Not any options apart from jarrod Cameron really?? I have brought in Chol for bailey Scott….finally….that was via dpp in Setterfield. I’m not sure on how long the groin injury is for Moore.
Should I wait another week to assess other rookies or should I trade Moore out now for Cameron.

Note: only have one more upgrade to make in the midfield and have 9 trades left after the Scott trade.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated 🙂

James Sykes

so i have 5 trades left with zero trades done this week.

settlefield and R Young as my bench cover forward, $700 in the bank.

G Logue sitting at D6 and the last on field upgrade needed.

Do I need to chase Chol? I worry about his JS.

Also, should I have the spare ribs or buffalo wings while watching the footy?

Derek

you need to have warm bodies, giving you bench cover and cash generation.

Young is very cold. I would take the punt on Young to Chol, he should be good for a few weeks min and will make enough cash quickly to help get Logue to a premium

i had the 1/2 wings and 1/2 ribs at the Crest last night watching the cricket, i found the wings a bit spicy

Russty_

Haha Buffalo Wings James!…spice things up a bit in case the game is crap.

AuroraBorealis?!

Screw wings James, i recently found out that Hungry Jack's delivers and have now contributed quite a few dollars to their revenue. Bacon deluxe beats all 😉

hedski

The missus is cooking a roast….bang

Hazey1977

The answer to your last question is both

G.C.

Hello again community, feels like my awful luck (or skill?) at picking rookies all year has caught up to me. Not many trades, not much cash.

$49,800 Bank, 7 Trades left (before this week)

DEF: Lloyd, Hurn, Williams, Sicily, Crisp, Hore (Logue, Gardner)
MID: Cripps, Fyfe, Neale, M. Crouch, Oliver, Bont, Clarke (Bewley, O. Baker, Gibbons)
RUC: Gawn, Grundy (Bines)
FWD: Kelly, Danger, Marshall, Boak, Worpel, R. Gray (Corbett, R. Young)

Thinking:
1) Corbett -> Chol, Hore -> Rich (+ $75,900 cash)
2) Corbett -> Z. Clarke via Bines (+ $77,800 cash)

Not really sure where to go at this point. Mostly playing for leagues, and with so few trades left, maybe I should just cop the Gawn donut if it happens. I need to keep my potential cash up so I can get in an M8 soon without blowing too many precious trades.

Derek

I think Corbett is playing

G.C.

That's what I'm worried about! He's got a BE of 77, so he's going to lose even more money from where he is. Not sure if I should trust him to bounce back and get up to a bigger value than the $210,200 he's currently at, or cut loose now.

Derek

I would run with Logue & Hore at D6/7. You have Gardner at D8 who plays mostly on Sundays to loop them, you should be able to drag a decent score out of one of them each week

TBone_9

Hey G.C. To be honest mate I think your team is looking fine! You’ve got cover on three lines, and if Gawn misses 90% of people will get a donut so I wouldn’t worry about that. Trading Corbett not worth it, his coverage could be vital so I wouldn’t touch. Maybe O. Baker out for Dunkley in the next couple weeks to make you some $ and then go Gibbons/Clarke up to a fallen premo. This would leave you with 5 trades left to sit on for the rest of the year and to be honest I wouldn’t want to go below that until finals time or for LTI. I agree with Derek to loop Hore and Logue for rest of season.

Swans2012

Young to Clarke if you want to clear some dead wood and keep good fwd cover and have a playing r3 for the rest of the season. Then one up one down in a week or two to finish the mid leaves 4 trades for finals injuries or that last def upgrade. Copping the donut probably best but I like the Clarke coverage….

G.C.

Just realised I missed Macrae in the midfield lineup.

Either way, thanks for your replies so far everyone, sometimes you need that extra voice of reason to stop you from smashing the trade machine every week. Might just go R. Young to Z. Clarke for the swing cover and leave it at that. Best of luck for the weekend all.

Damian

I think I'll go Daniel to Lycett this week, and ROB to Bines next week to create a swing if either Gawn or Grundy are injured in the future

hedski

No Whitfield

Sam_01

Pretty annoying I was hoping he could come back and drop in price so I could snatch him up!

Richie Porte

Trade out Bewley or Stocker? For Chol or Bines, if Bines he will eventually go to R3 for ROB. Other trade is Hore to Hurn

Dash

8 Trades – 87K. Would love to upgrade but can't really. Worried about Gawn so Z Clarke an option, as well as Chol.
What trade(s) should i make this week?
I'm stuck. Would like to hear your trade options.
Lloyd, Houli. Laird, Sicily, Duursma, Answerth (Burgess, Marsh)
Fyfe, Macrae, Dunkley, Neale, C Oliver, Sloane D Clarke, Hately (Bewley, O Baker, Cripps)
Gawn, Grundy (Bines)
Danger, T Kelly, Heeney, Boak, R Gray, J Cameron (Gardner, Setterfield)

Sam_01

Not sure on setterfield break even but could quite easily flick him to clarke
Depends if your going for league or rank
Personally going for rank I’ve gone D.fort straight swap to clarke
Can’t risk the 0 and the cover will be handy going forward.. could potentially go burgess down to chol If you want probably gonna need a touch more cash generation to finnish off your team
Will leave you 6 trades and 250k in the bank could look to upgrade Answerth or clarke/hately types next week

Dash

Setterfield BE is 35 so might be handy to hold a bit longer and has the dual position.
I'm going for league now and my opponent has Z Clarke as cover already for Gawn, while I have Bines.

Sam_01

I mean clarke will only score 60 odd so if your opponent sucks don’t bother with the trade if you have him covered elsewhere, setters won’t make you that much more coin, id definitely look to bring in chol means you could even upgrade Answerth/duursma this week

Swans2012

Wasn’t he scoring 60’s with bell in the side? I’m expecting 80’s with him out and more this week against the swans with NO ruckman

Sam_01

good point swans! Didn’t think of that

BigAl_15

Who do I get to replace Caleb Daniel? Roman Marshall or Josh Dunkley?

Sam_01

Interested in what people in the top few thousand are doing with gawny assuming Z.clarke is the most common option?

Marcus

How is Chol's job security ? Otherwise i don't mind waiting to see how other rookies fare.

Lazza

Whitfield didn’t get up…..

Anyone else still have MParker? He is listed as playing on AFL.com, but SC has him as an emergency… !!!!

Russty_

Probably HS just haven't updated it yet Laz, AFL site is usually right with the selections.

Lazza

Hope so… strange that it is still showing an hour and 15 after the teams were released.. all other ins are correct.. I was caught out last year when SC had a player listed as playing and wasn’t… was also a Saints player (Joyce).. other way around this time..

Russty_

He's listed on the playing bench on the Herald Sun Teams article Laz, probably just the spud in charge of updating Supercoach who's dropped the ball.

Blues10

Hately still listed as emergency as well in SC but is playing

Russty_

I just tried calling the slackers and of course, it's just a recorded message saying…send us an email, I'm sure Parker and Hately will play, it's just some spud from Herald Sun not doing their job properly.

SImonT

10 trades left and only 36k in the bank. My team is as follows:
B: Lloyd, Laird, Williams, Stewart, Whitfield, Wilkie, Logue, Joyce (St K)
M: Macrae, Cripps, Oliver, Coniglio, Merrett, Bont, Walsh, D Clarke, Brewley, Baker.
R: Gawn, Goldy, Sweet
F: Danger, Kelly, Heeney, Cameron, Settlefield, Parker, Young, Gardener

Wanted to bring in Harriett for Wilkie to complete my defence but doesn't leave me with much cash. Concerned (like everyone else) that Gawn will not play and leave me with a donut. I can bring in Zac Clarke as back up but would need to downgrade Brewley/Baker or one of the non playing forward rookies. Otherwise do I just swap Gawn for Grundy and trade Wilkie to Hartlett.

Appreciate any advice Kev and the community.

Fisherdann

For the people bringing in Lycett to cover Gawn with the Bines swing. How is this possible if Port play before West Coast? Do we leave Lycett's points on the bench if Gawn does play?

Russty_

I got Westhoff in for Daniel and already have Lycett so if Westhoff stays on the bench it'll only be the difference between Westy's score and Parker's in the end.
I think we'll know if Gawn is playing from the Saturday training session anyway.

Fisherdann

Either way I'm going to get a donut if Gawns out as I have no forward cover. Planned to go Young to Chol but with Whitfield still out I needed to swing Answerth back there.
Is Naish to Chol a wasted trade? It's the only way I can cover Whitfield and no telling if Naish gets another go.
9 trades left.

Russty_

I don't think Naish to Chol is a waste…it could be if Jack comes back next week and Chol is out.
Maybe they were just having a look at Naish for a few games to see what he can do?…it sucks cause i've got Naish too and he looked pretty good.

Fisherdann

That's what I'm afraid of. I still have Burgess/Gardner back there. Rookies doing our heads in this year!

Saritz

They do our heads in every year. It just always seems worse at the time

Jace

If I had Lycett as cover I would put him on field over Gawn anyway with a slight injury concern.

Saritz

Even a managed Gawn is likely to get 100pts. So that’s still a lot of points left on the sidelines

Swans2012

For some reason I’ve got a feeling Sicily will go big tonight!

hedski

Bloody hope so Swans.

Saritz

I just hope Grundy (VC) does

DavidC

I don't have the same feeling but then I don't have him.

Saritz

Not looking like it early. Being caught deep when he had time, resulting in a goal against, was poor

Russty_

Looking pretty good so far, hope he can keep it up until the end, would be a nice bonus.

Swans2012

🤞

Russty_

He's going huuuge tonight Swans…the power of positive thinking!…:)

Saritz

I take it back. You nailed it Swans!

Rick Grimes

Sweet upgrade next week at 430k odd. Such value. Surely doesn't play forward again.

Swans2012

In the words of jock “I could feel it in my bones” lol went with the gut on VC siciflog too

Russty_

Awesome Swanny, just need him to score something in this quarter now hehe

Swans2012

Very true 🤔

Swans2012

And just as I type it he turns into invisicily

Browncow

Nice call Swans! Didn’t see that score coming at all, but will take it.

Tommo09

I only have 8 trades left and $437k left but am planning to do a double upgrade next week so I would like to save this cash. Following this I will need one more upgrade at least.

Do I get Chol this week?
Do I trade Daniel?

Team at the moment:

Def: Lloyd Houli Ryan Stewart Smith Logue (Answerth Gardner)
Mid: Fyfe Neale CRIPPS Bont Gaff Walsh O’Meara Clarke (Hind Hayes Scott)
Ruc: Grundy Gawn (Bines)
Fwd: Danger Boak DANIEL Kelly Heeney Cameron (Setterfield Young)

Thoughts?

Also, Grundy into Fyfe or Fyfe into Neale?

Fisherdann

Questions I am also asking… Grundy into Fyfe for mine.

Tommo09

I think I’ll stick with that also

Russty_

Grundy to fyfe is solid this week.

Russty_

Hi Tommo, If I were in your position I'd be looking to get a bit more bench cover, and offload some deadwood…and create a mid swing at the same time so Hayes or Scott out for Chol via Setters to the mids…and yes I'd trade Daniel out..who knows how he'll be after 4 weeks off, could be shite.
Gotta play it week to week from here. good luck bud.

Tommo09

Thanks Russty. I was going to try to hold Daniel and use Setterfield at least this week. The only worry for Chol is his JS. I wouldn’t want to waste a trade for someone who won’t play much especially with my minimal trades.
If I had 12 or so trades I would pull the trigger immediately but I am hesitant.

None are playing tonight so I may wait until the morning to make a decision…

Russty_

Yeah understand that Tommo..although 8 trades left is pretty good at this time of year, depending on how finished your team is though and it looks like you still might need 4 upgrades, but Logue and Walsh could end up being keepers maybe.
I'm hoping Logue ends up being a keeper..I'm avoiding Chol cause I'm not convinced he'll stay in, just by how Balta got dropped, and Naish after 2 games, Hardwick has been a bit ruthless with his rookies.
I'm guessing Eggmolese will get dropped even if he has a good game or 2.

Dan

I would love your thoughts on what the higher priority is this week:
A) trade Daniel to Lycett (and have cover for Gawn)
Or
B) trade Duursma to Hurn (to work towards a full premium team. This would be 1 of 2 upgrades I still need to make).

Russty_

You can't really cover Gawn with Lycett if they wait till the last minute to make the call on Gawn, if Gawn plays….. then you'll have Lycett on the bench scoring nothing.
But if you don't mind maybe scoring a donut this week, then Daniel to Lycett is a good trade.

Fearthebeard

Hawkins, Cameron, zibell best replacement for f6

Russty_

Probs Ziebell on form, and Hawkins for price…don't trust Cameron.

Fearthebeard

Thinking Hawkins then and go for the extra $ to get hore to Whitfield!?

Would you agree rusty?

Cheers!

Russty_

Hi Beard, yeah for sure mate but maybe have a week's look at Whitfield first to make sure he's 100%

Saritz

Richo’s comment about Darcy having a bit of Lloyd Christmas about him is spot on. I was thinking the same thing

Russty_

Typical Supercoach, traded him out 2 weeks ago and then he tons up and is looking good this game too.

JohnDJ59

Is Worpel injured ? I just saw he is on 0 in the second quarter.

Russty_

No he's on 25 now John…hasn't seen much of it. Kicked a goal though that helped.

JohnDJ59

Ok, thanks Russty, I hadn't looked to see how things were going till then, was hoping it was a mistake or something, not looking at a very good score as it is without more injures happening.

Russty_

Grundy on 49 at half time, does that mean he ends up on 130 or what?…lol

Saritz

I hope so Russty! He generally has big 2nd halves

Russty_

Me too Saritz…a few more contested marks, hitouts to advantage, and tackles would be nice to see.
All that other good stuff that he usually does besides just rucking…around the ground.

Rick Grimes

Siciflog on fire. Back at home and scoring well, funny that. Be a nice little pick up next week.

Rick Grimes

Gee, looks like someone at CD picked him up this week. Playing well but that score is ridiculous.

Russty_

hope he gets to 160+ Rick…that would be a very nice start to the week 🙂

Derek

Sicily in defence this week. Hooray

Saritz

Will be a popular trade target next week based on a return to defense

Russty_

Seems to be doing some good Sicily things Derek, like contested possessions, and intercept marking again…now I just need Andrews to do the same thing for me this week.

TheLostBoys

Sicily going nuts tonight – gee they should move him forward 😉

TOPHAWK1

I have backed Sicily all year. Have put up with the circus and dramas, but finally, order has been restored.

TRIGGA_HAPPY

Here here hawk

redherringfc

I’ll admit it, I like a beer or 7 on a friday afternoon/evening and it’s having a massive impact upon my supercoach season.

I got home from the pub at 7:53 so missed putting the V on Grundy. At least it wasn’t at 7:45 so I could trade Nicnat in for Gawn.

Anyway, now I have trouble with who to put the V on. I can go anyone who plays on Saturday. Obvious choices are Macrae or Fyfe.

But, you know what a few beers say, “140 points, that’s not enough. You know Hawkins is due to kick a bagful and then some. If he only scores 180 you’ll be ripped off.”

So, my question to all the learned supercoach’s out there; “Will Hawkins get off the chain against the Dogs?”

Russty_

I wouldn't trade Nic Nat in for Gawn mate, that's just Beer goggles talk, he'll be right next week if not this week.
I'd chuck the VC on Fyfe…don't rely on Hawkins for anything ..he's too erratic.

redherringfc

Im definitely not trading in Nic Nat, especially for the best ruck in the game. I was just pointing out how bad some of my post-pub decisions have been.

I know Fyfe is probably going to be a great vc option, but let’s say he gets 145 (a great vc score) my captain options are Neale or Oliver, both might score around the same. But isn’t the idea of the loophole to go for a hail mary and hope for the 200+ point game and then when that falls over chuck the C on the safe bet?

Russty_

Nah I think the idea of the loophole is that you take something half decent and thank the Supercoach Gods cheating is allowed.
It's for having a second shot at it when your VC shits the bed.

redherringfc

I know you’re correct, but I’m always trying to take a free shot to get to double up on the impossible 220 point score.

Weeks and weeks (years?) of mediocrity can all be be forgotten by getting 400 points out of a single player.

Russty_

Love the passion mate…and you're right!…if we're allowed to cheat ,may as well go for the brass ring if you're so inclined.
Best I've finished is top 1%..but other years…just mediocre.

hedski

Yes yes he will (I say that about 10 cans in Red)

redherringfc

Thanks hedski. Hawkins into Cameron it is then.

(or Neale or Oliver when I decide i don’t have the balls for putting Cameron as captain)

hedski

Definately not Jezza Red, I like Hawk into Neale tho.
Wish I had of hail Mary'd? the vc on Siciflog instead of putting him on the bench (with the E).
VC'd Grundy, need a big last QTR.

redherringfc

No, i’m not putting Cameron as captain. Oliver against the blues looks good though. Or Neale.

Grundy scored 54 in the 3rd, if my memory is correct. He might hit 150.

hedski

145, I'll take that, Naish (now captain) finally makes himself useful, Sics and Grundy points.

Lazza

Sicily almost at his BE with a quarter to go ..

Lazza

WTF… Sicily.. best on ground start Q4 on the bench !!

Bill
Rick Grimes

Treloar absolutely ripped off, as usual.

Sam_01

He was tracking well at 3qt did absolutely nothing in the last though rick, I’m happy to Atleast take a ton from him

Rick Grimes

His work first 3/4 was worth 120, hence the frustration. He gets held to a higher standard than others. CD have their faves i guess.

AuroraBorealis?!

Well i was really excited to see how the boys responded to their insipid performance against north last week. I was holding out hope that that game would be the wakeup call necessary to reignite our season. Clearly this is not the case. I am absolutely disgusted, and beyond disappointed. Wouldn't be surprised if we miss the 8 at this point, 9th is probably what we deserve.

Russty_

Pretty tough with such a long injury list AB…it was predicted by some people.

Sam_01

Have absolutely no attack at the footy really missing Adams in the guts midfielders putting on minimalnpressure
Ball movement has gone to shit, always long down the line and many players out of form, very dissapointing to watch

AuroraBorealis?!

We're a long way off half the competition at this rate NDD, surely Adams, Stephenson and Howe aren't the difference between us being a contender and a pretender

hedski

I am disgusted that my multi is over in the first leg!!

AuroraBorealis?!

As am i Hedski, just needed Henderson to get 20 disposals, surely that wasn't too much to ask!

TelescopicCox

I think Stevo really damaged our FWD structure as the third “tall” given his ability to take a leap and get out on the lead. Hopefully Elliot is better for the run and can be more dangerous as a lead up target.

I’d rather have this form slump now than in September, and I’m confident we can make a legit run at the flag with some players back

BoltonsBlues

Sorry mate, Cox "spearheading" the forward line wont win any team a premiership
The Gambler, will be a massive loss

TheLostBoys

So almost every team will be taking Grundy's score for captain right? Can't really go past a 142 (+ or – a little scaling)…

Russty_

146 even better, one would be stark raving bonkers not to take that I think.

Swans2012

It’s the last week I don’t have him (rob to him next week) so I’m just happy to almost nullify the Grundy effect with VC Sicily

TRIGGA_HAPPY

Nice early call and vc pick mate!

400 off the bat from 2 players nice start
Grundy one of the 7 <img draggable="false" class="emoji" alt="😄" src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/12.0.0-1/svg/1f604.svg"&gt;

JohnDJ59

Yes, very happy to get that out of the way, in what will be a disappointing weekend SC wise.

TRIGGA_HAPPY

Sicily back where he belongs owning the air.

hedski

Ha ha, 12 sherbs down and ready for bed NDD.
C is on a rookie just for you mate (Naish) 👍🍻

TommyC99

Hey guys, what should be more of a priority for me? Got 7 trades left with 2 more spots to fill (ROB – Lloyd in 2 weeks done)

Baker – Neale/Cunners/Yeo

or

Young – Hawkins (pushes Jez Cameron to F7)

Also in your reply could you pls say whether you'd do it this week otr next week!

Thanks guys!

Sam_01

Likewise holty, you end up bringing in clarke?
Not a bad start with Grundy vc Sicily and treloar

RealDealNeale

Luckily avoided the Gawn and Daniel carnage. With 7 trades left, what move would be best?

A) Brayshaw > M.Crouch
B) Brayshaw & R.Young > Sloane & Chol
C) Brayshaw & Hore > Kelly & Chol (Logue to D6)

nickgonzalez771

B.

Stupid Coach

Options are as follows :
1) Baker to Hind and Sweet to Zac Clarke just in case Gawn is a late out.
2) Baker to Hind and Wilkie to Hartlett
3) Brewley or Baker to Hind and Young to Chol.
4) Baker to Cameron (WC) and Walsh to Neale

Ronnie999

Can someone sort this out for me. Don't know who to bring in as D6.
Stewart v Ryan!
Who will be better for the rest of the year.
Steward a bit more consistent , Ryan higher cieling tho but can stink it up.

nickgonzalez771

You’ve just answered your own question- Stewart.

Holty01

I like Ryan. Has that big ceiling.
Stewart although consistent does not seem to have any ceiling since Tuohy returned in R6. In fact he has only scored over 100 once since Tuohy returned as his ton in Rd7 was when Tuohy didn’t play.

TOPHAWK1

Hi Holty. Solid start for Tophawk this week. VC Grundy (Which I will take) with Sicily and Crisp. 530SC for these 3 guys combined. Good luck for the rest of the round Holty!

Holty01

great start mate. Let’s hope the rest of the round continues like this.

Tony

Anyone know if gawn trained this morning?

BrownlowBoy

Don't think he trained.

Saritz

Can anyone else confirm this?

Saritz

Hey Tony, Im on Max Gawn watch too. I need an answer by 4:30 (before Port/Lycett match).

JugHead

Just my opinion, but I can't see how he would play. The Dees chances of making finals are over. Historically, clubs only play a gun player in this situation if the coach is trying to eke out a couple more wins to save his @rse.

I think (hope) the Dees are better than that.

Brn

Its scare tactics – he wont play

Saritz

According to Twitter from someone at Melbourne training… no sign of Gawn. Given all circumstances, it’s highly unlikely Gawn plays.

hedski

Same as a lot of people Holty, VC on Grundy and Sicily.
Still undecided what to do with Daniel, I'll bring Chol in and whack the E on him see how he goes, hopefully we'll have some news on Gawn before the showdown starts this arvo.
Good luck to you too 👍

TelescopicCox

Gawn news is killing me. Think I’ll definitely get cover for him. Tossing up between Chol & Lycett vs Sloane & Z.Clarke

Northerner

AT this stage I've switched Lycett into the ruck and will play Chol. Gawn to sit on my bench. Pruess will play anyway I suspect so Gawn's output will be down so even if he does play, I'm thinking you lose 20-30-pts v Gawn being a late out and you could get a a donut and lose 60pts.

Brn

Pruess is emergency. Gawn will likely be a late out for him, but he wont play if gawn does

JugHead

I'm taking the view that Gawn won't play and allowing for that. What worries me more is if Danger ia a late out as well.

Brn

Im ranked highly and not even worrying about the likely donut from gawn. Not going to compromise my plan, cash and structure for 60 odd points

Maverick_

Very surprised if Melbourne risk the big fella TC for what may mean nothing later in the year it’s unlikely they’ll feature in September. Give him a week off and play pruess whose capable of matching Kreuzer. I’ll sit Gawn on my bench for the week and hope he’s back next I don’t think it’s worth a trade unless you got a heap of trades in the bank.

Tony

Take the doughnut or trade gawn for clarke?
I have enough trades to trade him back in cheaper in a few weeks time. Gives me money to finish the rest of my team. Thoughts?

Holty01

If you are not going for rank and you are already locked away in finals for your leagues, why not.

Tony

Think i will, hopefully clarke goes well. Cheers mate!

Davo

Hi Community. Looking to downgrade Baker to either Chol or Dunkley (Melb). Which one? Thoughts please.

Streaker

Chol

hedski

Is Gawn gonna play mate?