SuperCoach Panic Room: Round 16
The bye rounds may be officially over but we still had some round 15 wobbles to remind us all that the SuperCoach Gods are vengeful little S.O.B’s that care not for our post bye rounds rankings charge. Danger, Maxy, and LLLLLLLLloyd all had weeks to forget and we need to consider this a warning folks, our premiums have been running around for almost 4 months. The general soreness starts to kick in and those little niggles start to turn into 1-2 weeks on the sidelines. There’s still potentially eight weeks left to go if you make it to a league grand final, don’t trade unless you need to.
Patch returned from his secret*, illegal** offshore dealings in the Cayman Islands in time for the podcast this week and let me just say thank GOD he is back. Lek smells bad, and Damo wants something but I don’t know what.
*Oh, crap! I shouldn’t have said it was a secret.
Patch and Lek discussed all things good this week in the podcast. Damo’s captain smokey last week, Scott Lycett, went HAM last week and busted out a casual 165SC. Get his picks for this week here. Matty has changed up the cheat sheet this week with some sneaky POD’s that can get you a leg up on the competition.
**Oh, crap! I certainly shouldn’t have said it was illegal.
The News
Plenty happening this week at the selection table. Rocky is back for Port after a 74 week hamstring injury (slight exaggeration, but feels that way). Justin Westhoff and his ruck/forward swing makes a timely return. Sandiballs will play his first game in over a year. Lachie Whitfield is on an extended bunch. Still no Patrick Cripps, but Max Gawn and Patrick Dangerfield have been named and if Sunday teams are kind to us we could have up to six new rookie downgrades available in the coming weeks.
For tonight, Ben McEvoy will be solo rucking after Jono Ceglar was dropped. Pinchy Stratton makes his return after suspension. Jamie Elliot is back after a long injury layoff and popular preseason rookie Isaac Quaynor (DEF – 153.3k) will make his debut.
On Saturday, Essendon continue their bizarre selection choices by dropping Kyle Langford and Josh Begley. Zac Clarke will replace Tom Bellchambers in the ruck. Sydney have chosen not to replace the injured Callum Sinclair with another ruck, instead recalling Harry Cunningham. Gold Coast have chopped Will Brodie despite a solid run of games. Josh Corbett gets another chance. The Tigers have another rookie debut in running halfback Derek Eggmolesse-Smith (DEF – 102.4k)
There are 7 changes between Adelaide and Port Adelaide for Showdown XLVII. Josh Jenkins is back after that terrible looking knee injury against Richmond, Wayne Milera is back and Bryce Gibbs has been dropped again. Karl Amon and Dougal Howard join Rocky and Westhoff for the Power, bubble boy Peter Ladhams is among the outs. In the Derby out west, Rory Lobb joins Aaron Sandilands amongst ins. Brett Bewley has been dropped and Sean Darcy “managed” (dropped). There will be no Mark Hutchings tag and Jeremy McGovern is straight back in after his week off. No changes for the Cats for their game against the Dogs, Toby McLean replaces the injured Caleb Daniel.
On Sunday, Charlie Curnow will miss for the Blues with injury and Oskar Baker has been dropped by the Dees. Matthew Cottrell (MID/FWD – 102.4k) and Hugh Goddard (DEF – 159k) are in the squad. Brayden Preuss has been named in case Maxy doesn’t get up in time. There’s also a possible debut for Kyle Dunkley (MID – 102.4k). North Melbourne will have at least one change after Kyron Hayden’s season ending injury. Mid season draftee, Lachlan Hosie (FWD – 102.4k), is on an extended bench. Curtis Taylor (MID/FWD – 117.3k) could play his second game. The Saints have added four names without a confirmed out as yet. For the last game of the round, Shane Mumford will miss for the Giants, Matthew Flynn (RUC – 123.9k) and Dawson Simpson have been named. Jake Stein (DEF – 123.9k) could return and Ian Hill (MID/FWD – 117.3k) could debut. At the Lions, former Dog Marcus Adams has again been named in the squad.
The House of Evil
These rookies come with a free frogurt! (that’s good)
These premiums come with Potassium Benzoate (that’s bad)
Can I go now? (Trade bait)
Smooth Kevy’s Lock of the Week
Caleb Daniel is the 5th most popular premium forward and he needs to be replaced this week after a ‘moderate grade’ hamstring injury against Port will sideline him for the next 3-4 weeks. The silver lining here was the injury came in the 4th quarter and he’d put up 88SC in that time, meaning his price didn’t plummet. Priced at 532k, only fellow Dog Josh Dunkley may be out of reach but you can sideways to another top 10 forward for as little as 19k (Tim Kelly).
But should you get a little funky to generate cash AND keep up decent output? It may only net you 21k, but Jack Ziebell is averaging 111SC since Rhyce Shaw took over coaching duties at the club. You can be confident hell keep his midfield role until the end of the year. If you listened to the podcast this week, Lek frothed all over Sam Petreski-Seton. Owned by less than 3,000 coaches, he is averaging 105 since David Teague arrived and a trade to him will net you 88.9k.
Hey Now, You’re a Draftstar
After a uhh, less than ideal opinion about Shaun McKernan last week being an absolute Draftstars spud (which he is Patch, fight me!) I’ll be avoiding Essendon games now that Tom Bellchambers is injured and a I refuse to have Shaun in my lineups. It’s a double Derby round this week, let’s head west and look at West Coast facing off against Fremantle.
RUC
Tom Hickey (FWD / 9.8k) still managed to put up 77DS on the back of 21 hitouts and 7 tackles last week against the Hawks despite sharing ruck duties with Nic Nat (11.5k). Fremantle have conceded 89DS to rucks this season and 99DS over the past month, so a double ruck stack is in play in you want to go in that direction.
However, there’s a wrinkle in these plans. Those numbers don’t take into account the return of Aaron Sandilands (10.9k), so both these guys may get less of the hitouts they did last week. Nic Nat only had 6 disposals last week, if he’s not winning the hitouts his score will suffer. Rory Lobb (FWD / 11.8k) is also in the team, so I’m not real interested in playing a Fremantle ruck until I see how their partnership works out.
FWD
Both sides have had their issues containing medium forwards this year and both sides have a bunch. Sam Switkowski (7.6k) only has one goal to his name in the past month but averages 60 in that time. Switta gets his numbers from tackling, so if he can jag a goal or two he’ll push that 70-80 mark. I’ve enjoyed playing Jamie Cripps (10k) these past few weeks, he brings 80 point upside and has topped that mark in 4 of his 6 games at Optus this year. Michael Walters (MID / 13.5k) and his massive ceiling is always in play. Liam Ryan (8.8k) spent more time up the ground last week with Jarrod Cameron and Willie Rioli taking crumbing duties and is in play again this week if those two stay in the team.
Jack Darling (9.9k) and Josh Kennedy (8.4k) *could*be fantastic value. Or they *could* both tank spectacularly. Slot one in if you’re feeling brave or both if you’re an absolute madman.
DEF
As was the case with medium forwards, both sides have let medium defenders get off the hook this year. West Coast in particular have conceded huge points to Lachie Whitfield (133), Tow Stewart (124), and Jake Lloyd (149). Luke Ryan (11.1k) has a massive ceiling when he gets going, and then there’s Connor Blakely (MID / 11.7k). Is he back? (in Pog form). He’s had 6 games now since returning from injury and picked up 31 touches and 5 marks against the Blues. Shannon Hurn (13.7k) hasn’t tonned up for a month but brings 120+ point upside.
If you’re looking to be a bit sneaky and save a bit of dosh at the same time, both sides are in the top 5 when it comes to conceding points to key backs. This brings Jeremy McGovern (9.8k), Tom Barrass (9.4k), and Griffin Logue (8.8k) into play.
MID
Mitch Crowden (5.7k) will play his first game of the year. A “Lachie Neale clone” in the words of Damo, he probably won’t get a lot of midfield time but his tackling form in the WAFL is outrageous. He’s had 59 in the past 6 weeks and if he can bring that to the big stage he’ll hit value. Darcy Tucker (9.9k) is having a great time following Nat Fyfe around and getting some easy touches. Chasing a Chris Masten (8.2k) junk game is a pain so I’m not doing it this week (watch him do just this as soon as I don’t pick him).
From here it’s trying to jam in as many guns as you can. A Jack Redden (13.5k) ceiling game is a beautiful thing. His past 3 against Freo? 127, 133, 124. Minus his concussion affected score in round 3, Nat Fyfe (15k) averages a ridiculous 115 at Optus so far this year and will enjoy not having Mark Hutchings breathing down his neck. Andrew Gaff (16k) averages an even more ridiculous 122 at the venue so far this year. Elliot Yeo (14.9k) gives a greater ceiling at a cheaper price than Gaff, however he doesn’t share the same level of consistency.
If Maxy gets up and Lycett is locked into my ruck line I am potentially leaving a lot of points on the bench. I have up until tomorrow afternoon, when the port game begins to decide. I assume many are in the same position. So if anyone has any in- the-know info either way on Gawn, could you please, please, PLEASE let the community know. Thanks!!
Sounds like Maxy is training tomorrow morning with the Port game at the twighlight spot. Hopefully we know before kick off if Max is out
Anyone who is attending this training, can they please drop us a line on here of how he looks! Cheers
Hate to break it to you saritz but even if he is a 90% chance of being out chances are they will keep it under wraps until the late changes come out, even if it is only to keep the opposition guessing.
Agree with Swans. Goodwin was good on his word to give Maxy ever possible chance to get up so that's a positive. He's not GWSing us by giving bogus injury news. It's a swelling thing rather than structural or bone bruising. All we can do is hope 🤞
Plenty of ways I can go this week. With 2 trades I'll be down to 5 trades left:
1. O.Baker & Hore > Sloane & Stewart. Logue only rook left at D6 but no cash in bank. Cop a donut from Gawn too
2. Begley & O.Baker > Chol & Lycett. Move Danger to M8, with Lycett becoming my F6. Hore & Logue only rooks on field
3. Begley & O.Baker > Z.Clarke & Sloane. Leaves we with $144,200 to upgrade my defenders over the coming weeks.
Like option two assuming you've got a R/F swing at R3 for Lycett in case Gawn is out. Chol's js beyond this week looks shaky but you never know, Dimma has been good with rewarding the form of rookies this year
Yep Kev I've got Bines to swing with Lycett for a week. Option 2 is the way I'm leaning as it covers Gawn and allows Whitfield to hopefully drop in price before jumping on
That’s it I’m bringing in Clarke, means I have to shelve the brayshaw to jpk trade indefinately (I hate you brayshaw) but I reckon Clarke at r3 will be worth the trade by seasons end….
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Thanks for reading, Mikeee!
1. Take a risk with Daniel >> Ziebell and have Wilkie / Logue on field (potential to get Dunkley later)
2. Trade Daniel >> Stewart and have Setterfield on field
Z for ceiling, Stewart for consistency. Logue only had two marks against the Blues and still managed 67. If that's his floor I'll keep him on field until Whitfield bottoms out
Gary Rohan as emergency has me wondering if Danger will be a late out.
Still deciding who to bring in for Daniel, Lycett and swing him up for Gawn cover or Boak and take the possible Gawn donut.
Either way I think I'll end up copping a zero.
I’m concerned as well hed, i think he’ll play but I’ve sent him up to the mids to cover Cripps (via setterfield) where if he’s a late out I’ve got plenty of cover just in case…
Lycett or Marshall?
So I’ve got a dilemma. I think I’m happy to run with the Gawn donut as most would. However I’m not sure whether to cull Dylan Moore. Not any options apart from jarrod Cameron really?? I have brought in Chol for bailey Scott….finally….that was via dpp in Setterfield. I’m not sure on how long the groin injury is for Moore.
Should I wait another week to assess other rookies or should I trade Moore out now for Cameron.
Note: only have one more upgrade to make in the midfield and have 9 trades left after the Scott trade.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated 🙂
so i have 5 trades left with zero trades done this week.
settlefield and R Young as my bench cover forward, $700 in the bank.
G Logue sitting at D6 and the last on field upgrade needed.
Do I need to chase Chol? I worry about his JS.
Also, should I have the spare ribs or buffalo wings while watching the footy?
you need to have warm bodies, giving you bench cover and cash generation.
Young is very cold. I would take the punt on Young to Chol, he should be good for a few weeks min and will make enough cash quickly to help get Logue to a premium
i had the 1/2 wings and 1/2 ribs at the Crest last night watching the cricket, i found the wings a bit spicy
Haha Buffalo Wings James!…spice things up a bit in case the game is crap.
Screw wings James, i recently found out that Hungry Jack's delivers and have now contributed quite a few dollars to their revenue. Bacon deluxe beats all 😉
The missus is cooking a roast….bang
The answer to your last question is both
Hello again community, feels like my awful luck (or skill?) at picking rookies all year has caught up to me. Not many trades, not much cash.
$49,800 Bank, 7 Trades left (before this week)
DEF: Lloyd, Hurn, Williams, Sicily, Crisp, Hore (Logue, Gardner)
MID: Cripps, Fyfe, Neale, M. Crouch, Oliver, Bont, Clarke (Bewley, O. Baker, Gibbons)
RUC: Gawn, Grundy (Bines)
FWD: Kelly, Danger, Marshall, Boak, Worpel, R. Gray (Corbett, R. Young)
Thinking:
1) Corbett -> Chol, Hore -> Rich (+ $75,900 cash)
2) Corbett -> Z. Clarke via Bines (+ $77,800 cash)
Not really sure where to go at this point. Mostly playing for leagues, and with so few trades left, maybe I should just cop the Gawn donut if it happens. I need to keep my potential cash up so I can get in an M8 soon without blowing too many precious trades.
I think Corbett is playing
That's what I'm worried about! He's got a BE of 77, so he's going to lose even more money from where he is. Not sure if I should trust him to bounce back and get up to a bigger value than the $210,200 he's currently at, or cut loose now.
I would run with Logue & Hore at D6/7. You have Gardner at D8 who plays mostly on Sundays to loop them, you should be able to drag a decent score out of one of them each week
Hey G.C. To be honest mate I think your team is looking fine! You’ve got cover on three lines, and if Gawn misses 90% of people will get a donut so I wouldn’t worry about that. Trading Corbett not worth it, his coverage could be vital so I wouldn’t touch. Maybe O. Baker out for Dunkley in the next couple weeks to make you some $ and then go Gibbons/Clarke up to a fallen premo. This would leave you with 5 trades left to sit on for the rest of the year and to be honest I wouldn’t want to go below that until finals time or for LTI. I agree with Derek to loop Hore and Logue for rest of season.
Young to Clarke if you want to clear some dead wood and keep good fwd cover and have a playing r3 for the rest of the season. Then one up one down in a week or two to finish the mid leaves 4 trades for finals injuries or that last def upgrade. Copping the donut probably best but I like the Clarke coverage….
Just realised I missed Macrae in the midfield lineup.
Either way, thanks for your replies so far everyone, sometimes you need that extra voice of reason to stop you from smashing the trade machine every week. Might just go R. Young to Z. Clarke for the swing cover and leave it at that. Best of luck for the weekend all.
I think I'll go Daniel to Lycett this week, and ROB to Bines next week to create a swing if either Gawn or Grundy are injured in the future
No Whitfield
Pretty annoying I was hoping he could come back and drop in price so I could snatch him up!
Trade out Bewley or Stocker? For Chol or Bines, if Bines he will eventually go to R3 for ROB. Other trade is Hore to Hurn
8 Trades – 87K. Would love to upgrade but can't really. Worried about Gawn so Z Clarke an option, as well as Chol.
What trade(s) should i make this week?
I'm stuck. Would like to hear your trade options.
Lloyd, Houli. Laird, Sicily, Duursma, Answerth (Burgess, Marsh)
Fyfe, Macrae, Dunkley, Neale, C Oliver, Sloane D Clarke, Hately (Bewley, O Baker, Cripps)
Gawn, Grundy (Bines)
Danger, T Kelly, Heeney, Boak, R Gray, J Cameron (Gardner, Setterfield)
Not sure on setterfield break even but could quite easily flick him to clarke
Depends if your going for league or rank
Personally going for rank I’ve gone D.fort straight swap to clarke
Can’t risk the 0 and the cover will be handy going forward.. could potentially go burgess down to chol If you want probably gonna need a touch more cash generation to finnish off your team
Will leave you 6 trades and 250k in the bank could look to upgrade Answerth or clarke/hately types next week
Setterfield BE is 35 so might be handy to hold a bit longer and has the dual position.
I'm going for league now and my opponent has Z Clarke as cover already for Gawn, while I have Bines.
I mean clarke will only score 60 odd so if your opponent sucks don’t bother with the trade if you have him covered elsewhere, setters won’t make you that much more coin, id definitely look to bring in chol means you could even upgrade Answerth/duursma this week
Wasn’t he scoring 60’s with bell in the side? I’m expecting 80’s with him out and more this week against the swans with NO ruckman
good point swans! Didn’t think of that
Who do I get to replace Caleb Daniel? Roman Marshall or Josh Dunkley?
Interested in what people in the top few thousand are doing with gawny assuming Z.clarke is the most common option?
How is Chol's job security ? Otherwise i don't mind waiting to see how other rookies fare.
Whitfield didn’t get up…..
Anyone else still have MParker? He is listed as playing on AFL.com, but SC has him as an emergency… !!!!
Probably HS just haven't updated it yet Laz, AFL site is usually right with the selections.
Hope so… strange that it is still showing an hour and 15 after the teams were released.. all other ins are correct.. I was caught out last year when SC had a player listed as playing and wasn’t… was also a Saints player (Joyce).. other way around this time..
He's listed on the playing bench on the Herald Sun Teams article Laz, probably just the spud in charge of updating Supercoach who's dropped the ball.
Hately still listed as emergency as well in SC but is playing
I just tried calling the slackers and of course, it's just a recorded message saying…send us an email, I'm sure Parker and Hately will play, it's just some spud from Herald Sun not doing their job properly.
10 trades left and only 36k in the bank. My team is as follows:
B: Lloyd, Laird, Williams, Stewart, Whitfield, Wilkie, Logue, Joyce (St K)
M: Macrae, Cripps, Oliver, Coniglio, Merrett, Bont, Walsh, D Clarke, Brewley, Baker.
R: Gawn, Goldy, Sweet
F: Danger, Kelly, Heeney, Cameron, Settlefield, Parker, Young, Gardener
Wanted to bring in Harriett for Wilkie to complete my defence but doesn't leave me with much cash. Concerned (like everyone else) that Gawn will not play and leave me with a donut. I can bring in Zac Clarke as back up but would need to downgrade Brewley/Baker or one of the non playing forward rookies. Otherwise do I just swap Gawn for Grundy and trade Wilkie to Hartlett.
Appreciate any advice Kev and the community.
For the people bringing in Lycett to cover Gawn with the Bines swing. How is this possible if Port play before West Coast? Do we leave Lycett's points on the bench if Gawn does play?
I got Westhoff in for Daniel and already have Lycett so if Westhoff stays on the bench it'll only be the difference between Westy's score and Parker's in the end.
I think we'll know if Gawn is playing from the Saturday training session anyway.
Either way I'm going to get a donut if Gawns out as I have no forward cover. Planned to go Young to Chol but with Whitfield still out I needed to swing Answerth back there.
Is Naish to Chol a wasted trade? It's the only way I can cover Whitfield and no telling if Naish gets another go.
9 trades left.
I don't think Naish to Chol is a waste…it could be if Jack comes back next week and Chol is out.
Maybe they were just having a look at Naish for a few games to see what he can do?…it sucks cause i've got Naish too and he looked pretty good.
That's what I'm afraid of. I still have Burgess/Gardner back there. Rookies doing our heads in this year!
They do our heads in every year. It just always seems worse at the time
If I had Lycett as cover I would put him on field over Gawn anyway with a slight injury concern.
Even a managed Gawn is likely to get 100pts. So that’s still a lot of points left on the sidelines
For some reason I’ve got a feeling Sicily will go big tonight!
Bloody hope so Swans.
I just hope Grundy (VC) does
I don't have the same feeling but then I don't have him.
Not looking like it early. Being caught deep when he had time, resulting in a goal against, was poor
Looking pretty good so far, hope he can keep it up until the end, would be a nice bonus.
🤞
He's going huuuge tonight Swans…the power of positive thinking!…:)
I take it back. You nailed it Swans!
Sweet upgrade next week at 430k odd. Such value. Surely doesn't play forward again.
In the words of jock “I could feel it in my bones” lol went with the gut on VC siciflog too
Awesome Swanny, just need him to score something in this quarter now hehe
Very true 🤔
And just as I type it he turns into invisicily
Nice call Swans! Didn’t see that score coming at all, but will take it.
I only have 8 trades left and $437k left but am planning to do a double upgrade next week so I would like to save this cash. Following this I will need one more upgrade at least.
Do I get Chol this week?
Do I trade Daniel?
Team at the moment:
Def: Lloyd Houli Ryan Stewart Smith Logue (Answerth Gardner)
Mid: Fyfe Neale CRIPPS Bont Gaff Walsh O’Meara Clarke (Hind Hayes Scott)
Ruc: Grundy Gawn (Bines)
Fwd: Danger Boak DANIEL Kelly Heeney Cameron (Setterfield Young)
Thoughts?
Also, Grundy into Fyfe or Fyfe into Neale?
Questions I am also asking… Grundy into Fyfe for mine.
I think I’ll stick with that also
Grundy to fyfe is solid this week.
Hi Tommo, If I were in your position I'd be looking to get a bit more bench cover, and offload some deadwood…and create a mid swing at the same time so Hayes or Scott out for Chol via Setters to the mids…and yes I'd trade Daniel out..who knows how he'll be after 4 weeks off, could be shite.
Gotta play it week to week from here. good luck bud.
Thanks Russty. I was going to try to hold Daniel and use Setterfield at least this week. The only worry for Chol is his JS. I wouldn’t want to waste a trade for someone who won’t play much especially with my minimal trades.
If I had 12 or so trades I would pull the trigger immediately but I am hesitant.
None are playing tonight so I may wait until the morning to make a decision…
Yeah understand that Tommo..although 8 trades left is pretty good at this time of year, depending on how finished your team is though and it looks like you still might need 4 upgrades, but Logue and Walsh could end up being keepers maybe.
I'm hoping Logue ends up being a keeper..I'm avoiding Chol cause I'm not convinced he'll stay in, just by how Balta got dropped, and Naish after 2 games, Hardwick has been a bit ruthless with his rookies.
I'm guessing Eggmolese will get dropped even if he has a good game or 2.
I would love your thoughts on what the higher priority is this week:
A) trade Daniel to Lycett (and have cover for Gawn)
Or
B) trade Duursma to Hurn (to work towards a full premium team. This would be 1 of 2 upgrades I still need to make).
You can't really cover Gawn with Lycett if they wait till the last minute to make the call on Gawn, if Gawn plays….. then you'll have Lycett on the bench scoring nothing.
But if you don't mind maybe scoring a donut this week, then Daniel to Lycett is a good trade.
Hawkins, Cameron, zibell best replacement for f6
Probs Ziebell on form, and Hawkins for price…don't trust Cameron.
Thinking Hawkins then and go for the extra $ to get hore to Whitfield!?
Would you agree rusty?
Cheers!
Hi Beard, yeah for sure mate but maybe have a week's look at Whitfield first to make sure he's 100%
Richo’s comment about Darcy having a bit of Lloyd Christmas about him is spot on. I was thinking the same thing
Typical Supercoach, traded him out 2 weeks ago and then he tons up and is looking good this game too.
No he's on 25 now John…hasn't seen much of it. Kicked a goal though that helped.
Grundy on 49 at half time, does that mean he ends up on 130 or what?…lol
I hope so Russty! He generally has big 2nd halves
Me too Saritz…a few more contested marks, hitouts to advantage, and tackles would be nice to see.
All that other good stuff that he usually does besides just rucking…around the ground.
Siciflog on fire. Back at home and scoring well, funny that. Be a nice little pick up next week.
Gee, looks like someone at CD picked him up this week. Playing well but that score is ridiculous.
hope he gets to 160+ Rick…that would be a very nice start to the week 🙂
Sicily in defence this week. Hooray
Will be a popular trade target next week based on a return to defense
Seems to be doing some good Sicily things Derek, like contested possessions, and intercept marking again…now I just need Andrews to do the same thing for me this week.
Sicily going nuts tonight – gee they should move him forward 😉
I have backed Sicily all year. Have put up with the circus and dramas, but finally, order has been restored.
Here here hawk
I’ll admit it, I like a beer or 7 on a friday afternoon/evening and it’s having a massive impact upon my supercoach season.
I got home from the pub at 7:53 so missed putting the V on Grundy. At least it wasn’t at 7:45 so I could trade Nicnat in for Gawn.
Anyway, now I have trouble with who to put the V on. I can go anyone who plays on Saturday. Obvious choices are Macrae or Fyfe.
But, you know what a few beers say, “140 points, that’s not enough. You know Hawkins is due to kick a bagful and then some. If he only scores 180 you’ll be ripped off.”
So, my question to all the learned supercoach’s out there; “Will Hawkins get off the chain against the Dogs?”
I wouldn't trade Nic Nat in for Gawn mate, that's just Beer goggles talk, he'll be right next week if not this week.
I'd chuck the VC on Fyfe…don't rely on Hawkins for anything ..he's too erratic.
Im definitely not trading in Nic Nat, especially for the best ruck in the game. I was just pointing out how bad some of my post-pub decisions have been.
I know Fyfe is probably going to be a great vc option, but let’s say he gets 145 (a great vc score) my captain options are Neale or Oliver, both might score around the same. But isn’t the idea of the loophole to go for a hail mary and hope for the 200+ point game and then when that falls over chuck the C on the safe bet?
Nah I think the idea of the loophole is that you take something half decent and thank the Supercoach Gods cheating is allowed.
It's for having a second shot at it when your VC shits the bed.
I know you’re correct, but I’m always trying to take a free shot to get to double up on the impossible 220 point score.
Weeks and weeks (years?) of mediocrity can all be be forgotten by getting 400 points out of a single player.
Love the passion mate…and you're right!…if we're allowed to cheat ,may as well go for the brass ring if you're so inclined.
Best I've finished is top 1%..but other years…just mediocre.
Yes yes he will (I say that about 10 cans in Red)
Thanks hedski. Hawkins into Cameron it is then.
(or Neale or Oliver when I decide i don’t have the balls for putting Cameron as captain)
Definately not Jezza Red, I like Hawk into Neale tho.
Wish I had of hail Mary'd? the vc on Siciflog instead of putting him on the bench (with the E).
VC'd Grundy, need a big last QTR.
No, i’m not putting Cameron as captain. Oliver against the blues looks good though. Or Neale.
Grundy scored 54 in the 3rd, if my memory is correct. He might hit 150.
145, I'll take that, Naish (now captain) finally makes himself useful, Sics and Grundy points.
Sicily almost at his BE with a quarter to go ..
WTF… Sicily.. best on ground start Q4 on the bench !!
sorry to see Ceglar dropped
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Treloar absolutely ripped off, as usual.
He was tracking well at 3qt did absolutely nothing in the last though rick, I’m happy to Atleast take a ton from him
His work first 3/4 was worth 120, hence the frustration. He gets held to a higher standard than others. CD have their faves i guess.
Well i was really excited to see how the boys responded to their insipid performance against north last week. I was holding out hope that that game would be the wakeup call necessary to reignite our season. Clearly this is not the case. I am absolutely disgusted, and beyond disappointed. Wouldn't be surprised if we miss the 8 at this point, 9th is probably what we deserve.
Pretty tough with such a long injury list AB…it was predicted by some people.
Have absolutely no attack at the footy really missing Adams in the guts midfielders putting on minimalnpressure
Ball movement has gone to shit, always long down the line and many players out of form, very dissapointing to watch
We're a long way off half the competition at this rate NDD, surely Adams, Stephenson and Howe aren't the difference between us being a contender and a pretender
I am disgusted that my multi is over in the first leg!!
As am i Hedski, just needed Henderson to get 20 disposals, surely that wasn't too much to ask!
I think Stevo really damaged our FWD structure as the third “tall” given his ability to take a leap and get out on the lead. Hopefully Elliot is better for the run and can be more dangerous as a lead up target.
I’d rather have this form slump now than in September, and I’m confident we can make a legit run at the flag with some players back
Sorry mate, Cox "spearheading" the forward line wont win any team a premiership
The Gambler, will be a massive loss
So almost every team will be taking Grundy's score for captain right? Can't really go past a 142 (+ or – a little scaling)…
146 even better, one would be stark raving bonkers not to take that I think.
It’s the last week I don’t have him (rob to him next week) so I’m just happy to almost nullify the Grundy effect with VC Sicily
Nice early call and vc pick mate!
400 off the bat from 2 players nice start
Grundy one of the 7 <img draggable="false" class="emoji" alt="😄" src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/12.0.0-1/svg/1f604.svg">
Sicily back where he belongs owning the air.
Ha ha, 12 sherbs down and ready for bed NDD.
C is on a rookie just for you mate (Naish) 👍🍻
Hey guys, what should be more of a priority for me? Got 7 trades left with 2 more spots to fill (ROB – Lloyd in 2 weeks done)
Baker – Neale/Cunners/Yeo
or
Young – Hawkins (pushes Jez Cameron to F7)
Also in your reply could you pls say whether you'd do it this week otr next week!
Thanks guys!
Likewise holty, you end up bringing in clarke?
Not a bad start with Grundy vc Sicily and treloar
Luckily avoided the Gawn and Daniel carnage. With 7 trades left, what move would be best?
A) Brayshaw > M.Crouch
B) Brayshaw & R.Young > Sloane & Chol
C) Brayshaw & Hore > Kelly & Chol (Logue to D6)
B.
Options are as follows :
1) Baker to Hind and Sweet to Zac Clarke just in case Gawn is a late out.
2) Baker to Hind and Wilkie to Hartlett
3) Brewley or Baker to Hind and Young to Chol.
4) Baker to Cameron (WC) and Walsh to Neale
Can someone sort this out for me. Don't know who to bring in as D6.
Stewart v Ryan!
Who will be better for the rest of the year.
Steward a bit more consistent , Ryan higher cieling tho but can stink it up.
You’ve just answered your own question- Stewart.
I like Ryan. Has that big ceiling.
Stewart although consistent does not seem to have any ceiling since Tuohy returned in R6. In fact he has only scored over 100 once since Tuohy returned as his ton in Rd7 was when Tuohy didn’t play.
Hi Holty. Solid start for Tophawk this week. VC Grundy (Which I will take) with Sicily and Crisp. 530SC for these 3 guys combined. Good luck for the rest of the round Holty!
great start mate. Let’s hope the rest of the round continues like this.
Anyone know if gawn trained this morning?
Don't think he trained.
Can anyone else confirm this?
Hey Tony, Im on Max Gawn watch too. I need an answer by 4:30 (before Port/Lycett match).
Just my opinion, but I can't see how he would play. The Dees chances of making finals are over. Historically, clubs only play a gun player in this situation if the coach is trying to eke out a couple more wins to save his @rse.
I think (hope) the Dees are better than that.
Its scare tactics – he wont play
According to Twitter from someone at Melbourne training… no sign of Gawn. Given all circumstances, it’s highly unlikely Gawn plays.
Same as a lot of people Holty, VC on Grundy and Sicily.
Still undecided what to do with Daniel, I'll bring Chol in and whack the E on him see how he goes, hopefully we'll have some news on Gawn before the showdown starts this arvo.
Good luck to you too 👍
Gawn news is killing me. Think I’ll definitely get cover for him. Tossing up between Chol & Lycett vs Sloane & Z.Clarke
AT this stage I've switched Lycett into the ruck and will play Chol. Gawn to sit on my bench. Pruess will play anyway I suspect so Gawn's output will be down so even if he does play, I'm thinking you lose 20-30-pts v Gawn being a late out and you could get a a donut and lose 60pts.
Pruess is emergency. Gawn will likely be a late out for him, but he wont play if gawn does
I'm taking the view that Gawn won't play and allowing for that. What worries me more is if Danger ia a late out as well.
Im ranked highly and not even worrying about the likely donut from gawn. Not going to compromise my plan, cash and structure for 60 odd points
Very surprised if Melbourne risk the big fella TC for what may mean nothing later in the year it’s unlikely they’ll feature in September. Give him a week off and play pruess whose capable of matching Kreuzer. I’ll sit Gawn on my bench for the week and hope he’s back next I don’t think it’s worth a trade unless you got a heap of trades in the bank.
Take the doughnut or trade gawn for clarke?
I have enough trades to trade him back in cheaper in a few weeks time. Gives me money to finish the rest of my team. Thoughts?
If you are not going for rank and you are already locked away in finals for your leagues, why not.
Think i will, hopefully clarke goes well. Cheers mate!
Hi Community. Looking to downgrade Baker to either Chol or Dunkley (Melb). Which one? Thoughts please.
Chol
Is Gawn gonna play mate?
Is Neale’s price too good to pass up on? Or is a pod in cunners or Yeo good options. Neale’s run home is also far better than the other 2
I think cunners is a solid POD I hate when I come up against teams in my leagues who have him because I know he’s going 110+ he’s consistent and a decent ceiling on any given day his able to go 130.
Neale obviously a bargain and you know what his capable of just depends if you want that player who will seperate you from the pack in your leagues
Gawn trained this morning BUT pruess has been withdrawn from melbournes VFL game.
I’d Expect Gawn to be withdrawn from the dees 22 today.
Agree Mav…can't see why they'd risk him if he's not 100% and that was a bad sprain.
Well I bought in Clarke and I’m starting to feel sick.
Should be absolutely embarrassed to be getting towelled up against someone who apparently has never tucked before
Ouch Holty 🙁 you didn’t go Gawn -> Clarke did you?
I have seen some people flirting with that move
God I really hope Gawn plays clarke is an absolute spud
At least he's got some points now mate, could still get to 40 or 50, the other Clarke's doing shite too..if Danger's out, I'm wearing that score.
He’s going backwards the bloke will be lucky to score 10
I saw that wow!..he was on 14 at one stage, what a mega-spud..and he's been taken out of the Ruck now too.
Bugger Holty. Zac Clarke is an absolute joke. We might be watching him play his last game today. What a useless spud. Hopefully you can just use him as a bench loophole patsy moving forward.
I'm a Dons fan, and I want this to be Zac Clarkes last game (at least with Essendon) – we'd be better off with anyone else in the team. He doesn't even contribute around the ground. I cringe whenever he has the ball in hand, as it's certain to be a turnover.
Jus saw half time. Heeney going very well, but ZMerrett only 51% TOG? He must be injured?
Was on the bench for the last 15 minutes of the second quarter but wasn't talking to phyios or docs according to the FOX commentators
Having a concussion check at half time
Sydney Stack……….seriously? How is he on so many.
Supercoach scoring makes 0 sense sometimes
Not sure how 9 touches and a goal and a tackle gives you 64 points
Think he's a must have next year based on his scoring the last 2 weeks! For some reason everything he does is gold in the eyes of CD
Z.Clarke just had a mark and a kick…that should double his score lol
Yeah probably Neil haha, then they'll trade McEvoy back in when he's 35 and his body's stuffed.
Any news on how Danger is travelling? Want to loophole Chol but i dont want to cop a donut in the FWD line
Need quick answers community
Ziebell and Hurn
or Boak and Ryan
Not BOAK!
Fantasy Freako has just confirmed Gawn a non starter tomorrow on Twitter. Brought in Lycett.
Boak looks like a late out!!!!!!!! injured in warm up
Thanks TH, good to know…finally
I was 30 seconds too late to swing Lycett to ruck
What a disaster. Lycett gone down with a knee and Boak a late out. I am screwed.
Cross your fingers mate, Lycett might be ok
God I am praying Russty. With Boak getting back spasms in the warm ups has caused chaos in my team. If Lycett does not come back it will be be hell mate.
It's a week from hell for a few coaches this week mate but if Lycett stays on hopefully that salvages something for us who have him…Boak is a massive loss but I noticed a lot traded Chol in this week so at least they get his 62.
Gee boak a late out
About as late as it can get! some kind of tightness or twinge…bloody hell.
I just traded him in…
Dramas
Oooof
Wow, that’s rough!
Chomping away on my first donut for the season. Thanks Travis Boak! NOT. lol
Really?
Warming up spasms in the back I just read.
Over to you setters. Gulp.
Just Great, really great.
Thought I was gonna avoid the Gawn donut by bringing in The Hoff. Then Boak pulls out. SMH
A donut is definite this week. Hopefully Danger plays otherwise I am done and throw the towel in.
Two donuts. Great
Hell of a week Tommo, no way to plan for that.
Take D Clarkes 55 or Answerth?
I think I'd take the 55
Was gonna go Boak for Daniel but chose Lycett instead, lucky, didn't realise Boak was a late out.
Oh no, Lycett is down!!!!!
Maybe I should have got the Hoff 🤔
You just have to laugh sometimes.
Traded Westhoff to Lycett last week after putting up with him most of season.
Lycett now injured and Hoff rucking
Lycett back on but looks sore
Its a cruel game mate. I traded in Lycett 5 minutes before the bounce, and then as soon as I did that I learned Boak was a late late out. Then Lycett decides to get injured. Hope he can at least play out the game.
Is it worth bringing in Jarrod Cameron to cover Boak? How's his job security look?
I’ll have two donuts if Gawn doesn’t play
My bench is
Gardner, Naish
Bewely, Scott, Cripps
Bines
Young, Burgess
Anyone have any suggestions now I have Boak out do I trade in a rookie also have Caleb Daniel and Gawn I think I’ll just have to trade Hore to Hurn and Daniel Marshall and of Gawn doesn’t play i’ll Have to play with 20 and take a score of 2,200
I have 260 left before Trades I have 12 Left
this is when the SHARK MOVES pay off.
no gawn, cripps or boak to worry about
Got you in the cash league this week OTW, should be a ripper match 👍
That’s one way to look at it OTW! Good bench coverage will be the difference between bad and great scores this week. What score you projected to get right now mate?
You'll just need to worry about those 3 guys next week, cause you don't have em.
Daniel
Gawn
Whitfield
Boak
Danger?
Lycett injured.
Boy oh boy wowee will that cause some carnage!
Danger is in, Lycett should ton up, getting better as the game goes on.
Reckon all but Short stuff will be back next week mate.
Damn been out with my boys to come home and realise Boak was a late out. That hurts a bit.
Stop pretending you ever leave your computer Holty ;)…Chol should cover ..not a disaster.
Vc on Fyfe or macrae?
Fyfe
Fyfe I reckon mate. Will show up for the big game
Was planning on going Baker – Neale to finish my mids but with Boak a late out on copping a donut. I was planning on bringing Hawkins in to loop with Cameron in the next few weeks anyway. So is it smart to do that now to avoid a donut?
Lycett may have done his PCL. After game assessment. If that's the case I will take his tonne and move him on. Gee wizz.
Just copped a knock/cork on his knee..maybe just a sore bruise….reckon he'll be ok, played out the game ok.
Thats what I thought too Russty. Maybe I was provided dodgy info. LOL
I'm just saying what I'd like it to be TH…lol, hope that's the case, don't need him to miss any games now.
Go Stewart…you workman-like bogan long haired tough bastard!
for a south barwon tradie plucked out of local league by Scarlett he's been a massive success and an absolute star! Matthew Scarlett must know a thing or two about defending;)
Danger's doing ok, for someone who was mortally wounded last week.
Probably mate…Clarke seems to be a witch's hat disguised as a human, Happy I brought Westy back in to cover for Gawn/ Daniel…looks like it could work out.
Gawn probably out as we all know. No stress, I held ROB. And of course I somehow forgot to slap the E on the big fella. Please play Gawny!
No. That is tough luck
All my own fault Derek, had plenty of chances to double check. Been thinking ROB E would be a big advantage for me all week. No idea why I didn't ensure he wore the E. Luckily my opponent is having a mare so I should be right either way. But would have been nice to climb the rankings!!
i Did that with Hurn during byes, had him on bench with no E
Happens when you reverse trades, throws players around