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SuperCoach Panic Room: Round 13

Published by Kev on

Ahhh, the byes. Don’t you just love ‘em? The ‘easy’ bye week wasn’t so easy for many coaches last week. Relying on 16-20 guys to put up a decent score shouldn’t be so difficult, but it was. I can’t help but feel this is all somehow Patch’s fault… Anyway, our rookies didn’t show up in round 12. Yes we had Walsh and perhaps Gibbons if you held on, but Balta, Jordan Clark, Answerth, Corbett etc all left significant stains on the SuperCoach underpants on the weekend. Even a few of our premiums didn’t come to play, Steven Coniglio’s 64 against the Crows is a massive 143 less than last week, and Brodie Smith decided the time was right to have his worst game of the year. 

Bye week 2: Electric Boogaloo is here and hoo boy, if you thought round 12 was tough then get ready for round 13. Brisbane, Collingwood, Geelong, Melbourne, Sydney, and West Coast have the bye this week. That’s 12 of the current top 20 players for points scored this year, which includes four of the top five. In times when we need someone else to stand up, we’ve got 6 teams fresh off their bye ready to stand up and say, “I’m someone else.”

So who do we target? Well the Patch, Lek, and Damo address that in the podcast this week. Barron is on hand as always to cast his experienced eye over how rookies are performing at lower level. Nailing your captain choice is a must during these bye weeks, have a look at Damo’s recommendations here. Lastly, Matty’s cheat sheet focuses on our best post-bye player options. 

The News

In another example of a long line of bizarre filtering choices to come out of AFL House, Thursday night football is back to a) stretch 6 games of footy over 4 days, and b) annoy me. For tonight, Adelaide will go in unchanged for the clash against Richmond. The Tigers have lost Trent Cotchin and Shane Edwards to injury, but will regain Brandon Ellis. Rookie downgrade option Patrick Naish will play his second game.

Essendon regain Dylan Shiel and Orazio Fanta-sia tonight, along with Jake Stringer for their match against the Hawks. The fit again Ben McEvoy will take his spot in the ruck and they’ve recalled forward rookie Dylan Moore. Mitchell Lewis and Chad Wingard are among the outs. 

There are 11 changes between St. Kilda and Gold Coast. The big ones: Chris Burgess, Josh Corbett, and Robbie Young will all miss. Jonathan Marsh has been recalled by the Saints, who are also debuting Nick Hind (MID – 117.3k). Corey Ellis will play his first game in Suns’ colours. Griffin Logue (DEF – 164.3k) gets his chance for Freo after Alex Pearce’s injury. Sean Darcy replaces the injured Rory Lobb. Without a word of lie I thought Hamish Hartlett had retired, but he has been recalled for Matthew Broadbent. Marc Murphy is back for the Blues and the Dogs have dropped Lachie Young in another hit to our already thin backlines.

On Sunday, Jake Stein (DEF – 123.9k) is a confirmed debut for the Giants. Toby Greene and Jackson Hately are in the squad to face North. There’s a possible debut for Kyron Hayden (MID / FWD – 102.4k). Curtis Taylor (MID / FWD – 117.3k) could line up for his second game and Paul Ahern is in the squad. Shaun Higgins is the only confirmed out so far.   

The House of Evil

These rookies come with a free frogurt! (that’s good)

These premiums come with Potassium Benzoate (that’s bad)

Can I go now? (Trade bait)

Smooth Kevy’s Lock of the Week

Statty Matty put up some fantastic options in the cheat sheet this week of guys to look at coming off their bye, and my pick is Travis Boak. A likely top 3 forward come seasons end, it’s hard to overlook him at 518k. Although he’s been a bit up and down recently, he still has 8 hundred plus scores from 11 games in the first half of the year, and Port play 7 of their remaining 11 games at home, a venue where he has averaged 114 from 5 games. 

Hey Now, You’re a Draftstar

Essendon host the Hawks at Marvel tonight as round 13 continues. Let’s have a look at some Draftstars options.

RUC

I’d really love to not to pick a ruck tonight. The returning Ben McEvoy (13.2k) has a safe floor but that lack of standout value tonight makes his salary hard to swallow. I’m not even going to bother to discuss why rostering Tom Bellchambers (10k) or Shaun McKernon (FWD / 9k) is a bad idea. That leaves Jono Ceglar (FWD / 9.9k). Big Boy will eat into his value a bit but if he can hit his average of 70 that’s good enough for me.

DEF

Targeting Hawthorn via the backline has been a fantastic strategy this year. They concede the most amount of points to the oppositions number 1 key defender and medium defender. Michael Hurley (11.8k) rarely puts in a bad shift and has the best ceiling out of himself, Cale Hooker (11.3k) and Andrew McGrath (11.2k). Conor McKenna (8.8k) has a consistent floor and has flashed an upside of 70+ at times this year. Only only Hawk I have any real interest in is James Sicily (13.3k) but there’s not a huge amount of value to be had there. 

FWD

Orazio Fanta-sia (11.7k) returns tonight and I like him here against the Hawks who have had their struggles with medium forwards this year. Shaun Burgoyne (DEF / 10k) returned to the midfield against Brisbane and put up 91DS, it he remains there he’ll easily hit value. Darcy Parish (MID / 12.7k) has flourished after a move to the middle, but Dylan Shiel’s return could put the kibosh on that. Hawk James Worpel (MID / 12.8k) has put together a consistent year. At the lower end of the scale, Essendon keep pumping games into Josh Begley (6.1k), along with Dylan Moore (8.2k) they won’t blow the doors off the place, but are cheap enough to not stuff you completely.

MID

Dylan Clarke (9.5k) helped himself to 99DS last start while completing blanketing Patrick Cripps. He will likely go to Jaegar O’Meara tonight, which leaves us Zach Merrett (15.9k) v Ricky Henderson (14.7k) as top line options. Zerrett has an awesome record at Marvel so far his year, averaging 122 from his 3 games there. In games where Ricky Henderson has taken 10 or more marks this year, he averages a massive 136 (3 games). Essendon gave up 8 marks to Cripps in round 11 and 7 to Dusty in round 10. Dylan Shiel’s (14.3k) last 3 at Marvel have been 110, 127, and 101 if you want something a bit cheaper.  



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charles

do we reckon,
– Sicily and mundy
or
– Walters and Ryan??

SC_Kev7

Walters and Ryan. Sicily and Walters a decent option too. Mundy will get much cheaper with a b.e of 198 this week (I somehow missed him in the breakeven bit)

TelescopicCox

Boak locked in for me. Best defender: Ryan, Sicily or Blakely.

Rocky out is a killer if true. Traded Walsh to him two weeks before his injury #FMSC

SC_Kev7

Ryan for mine as his ceiling is better. Other than West Coast, Geelong and Port (twice), Freo play 7 of the current bottom 10 now

silversovereign

Who said rocky out. Please god NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

Ryan

Need some help lads

I got one spot left in my forward line and two in my mids and need help to decide

FWD line: Ziebell or Rowan Marshall

MID: Cunnington or Bont

Bont would be my 4th doggies player (dunk, Daniel and Macrae) so idk if I should go but he avg at Marvel is like 130+ and most the games for the remainder of the season is at Marvel so it’s tempt

Derek

Higgins going down will mean Ziebel will be 100% midfield. He will do well but will score well when north win. I’d stick with Marshall for consistent. Has a really go draw, except has Max once.

Bont

dontblushbaby

Chol in for Soldo tonight, he is a FWD and not Ruck ?

Brn

Bloody tricky one. Cheap fella and a huge chance to score well this week. BUT, this could be his only week

Dan

Do you think Bewley's j/s strong enough to bring him in? Or is it better to let him go and target Dylan Clarke next week?

Dan

I just tried posting a comment, but received a message that it needs to be approved by an admin of the site. Just wondering if anyone else is receiving this?

Dan

Seems to be okay now 🙂

BrownlowBoy

Who's gonna vc ROB

TommyC99

I was tempted by Rob or crouch in his 100th but Fyfe's record is too hard to ignore. Fyfe into Crippa for mine

Swans2012

There is a temptation, love getting the Vc sorted first game, but impossible to go past fyfe

hedski

I hope you did BB…..

Rockburner

I was stuffing around looking at trades etc. and unwittingly left the c on ROB and only noticed when I went to check teams when I got home tonight and I was hoping he would do ok and not completely stuff my round , but I must say I didn’t see that score coming

Rockburner shiit

bullshiit

COREYSC

Thats what I'm going to ensure I have 18 this week via Answerth dpp then swing Answerth back into the backline next week and trade Clark out for Clarke (essendon)

TommyC99

Which 2 to trade out of Answerth, Atkins and O Baker?

Wattsieesq

Atkins
Answerth
O Baker

In that order

Sam_01

Previous scores aside boys
As a non Neale owner is he a must have? Has de boer in the coming weeks aswell! is it worth going to a Sloane instead post bye cash is tight and only have the one midfield spot left
Still need the cash to grab hurn aswell being the main issue

SC_Kev7

Need to have the number 1 mid in your side, Sam!

KSinny

Already got Cripps luckily

Dash

16 Trades – 65K – Need some trade advice .
Thinking of moving on Clark, Atkins, Balta. Do you agree these are the three to go this week?
Maybe a case for Corbett or Answerth

Laird, Sicily, Houli, Duursma, Burgess, Marsh, (Clark, Answerth)
Macrae, Cripps, Fyfe, Libba, Walsh, Hately, Setterfield, Atkins, (Heeney, O Baker, Neale)
Gawn, Grundy, (Bines)
Boak, Dunkley, J Cameron, Parker, Balta, Corbett (Danger, T Kelly)

SC_Kev7

Clark and Balta yes. Corbett will probably lose a bit of cash this week and would be my third choice. But if you need a bit of extra cash Atkins has just about run his race

COREYSC

Ed Phillips ruled out and Jack Steele dislocating his knee all the injuries at St Kilda may see Young survive for one more week!

Mick

Perfect. Those 17 points will come in handy 😕

COREYSC

Every point counts ahha

redherringfc

He’s got the Suns. Put him down for 30.

manolaki

Looks like Young is having a spell

manolaki

Shame because I have him and he would have been my 18th player this week

Libba

Rookie mid set to debut

Nick Hind will play this week for the saints…he's averaging 114 supercoach points in the VFL

TRIGGA_HAPPY

That's my boy

Good one hindy do us proud.

redherringfc

How big a risk to go this week?

Is it just a big risk or a massive risk?

Being 6k cheaper than Naish gets me an upgrade in 2 instead of 3.

redherringfc

No dpp’s available, so I can’t do it anyway.

Russty_

Hind was pretty shite in the JLT, averaged 40 for 2 games.

Bob

He's probably understands the game plan and his role better after a dozen games in the 2's

redherringfc

Thanks Russty.

So he’s probably going to outscore Burgess, Corbett, Parker, etc.

Sounds like he’s the perfect fit for my team.

manolaki

What's JS like? Saints dropped a few this week. He might not last long if they come back. Also Hanners can't be too far away.

Trades

Atkins, Duursma & Darling out
Bewley, Sicily, Dunkley in
Sound good?

redherringfc

Yes.

Brn

Trading duursma now sucks but if thats all you have go for it

Connor

Trade B. Scott or Stocker for Naish (via Answerth)??

Will not affect other trades this week but thinking Stocker more of a chance to play down the line…

The G Train

Need some advice this week lads, should I trade B Smith to Ryan or Parker to Boak. Smith trade will leave me at 5 premo in defence and bringing in Boak will leave me with full premo FWD line. Playing for league wins and will win regardless of trades this week. Any advice appreciated

RealDealNeale

Will be copping a donut this week with only 14 pre trade thanks to Rocky & Stocker

Is Rocky worth a trade to increase my premos on field and offset the donut? My two options are below:

1. Moore, Stocker & Answerth > Sicily, Clarke & Naish
2. Moore Rocky & Answerth > Blakely, Fyfe & Naish

Only problem with option 2 is I will need to bring in two cheap rookies to afford my ROB to Gawn trade

Stupid Coach

Great work Kev. 'Can't someone else do it' is definitely the slogan for me team this week. As hard as I have tried, I just can't quiet seem to get it right, especially during the bye rounds.

Currently have 16 trades and only 41k in the bank. My team (based on this weeks bye round) is as follows:

B: Laird, Williams, Whitfield, Duursma, Wilkie, Joyce, Stewart (bye), Answerth (bye)
M: Cripps, Macrae, Merrett, Sloane, Coniglio, Walsh, Stack, Baker(bye), Oliver(bye), Stocker
R: Gawn (bye), Goldy, Sweet
F: Cameron, Settlefield, Parker, R Young, Heeney(bye), Danger (bye), T Kelly (bye), Petrucelle (bye)

Not sure which way to go with only 17 players currently playing and who to get rid of and bring in.

I really appreciate any advice.

TheLostBoys

Can we trust that Robbie Gray will keep playing in the midfield? He's great value (with money so limited this season) and with a BE of 30 odd it's this week to get him. Still concerned that he'll be plonked in a pocket and produce 40 to 60 odd….

Looking at upgrading Moore to either Boak or Gray. Boak is absolutely a better option, but I can probably get him next week with very little change in his price – Gray should go up significantly.

redherringfc

I’m thinking about getting him in as a money maker. If he goes up by 100k then he’s better than any of the rookies on offer at the moment. Just waiting for teams to drop to see what carnage I need to sort through first.

Brn

Wines is about as mid as you get. Robbie a trap

hedski

Young, Burgess and Corbett are all out this week.
Hately named for Sunday again to tempt everyone.

TheLostBoys

And it would be a Sunday game just to cause trouble with trades….Leon Cameron just likes trolling us all with Hately 🙁

DavidC

Leon Camerson has made 18% of coaches look like fools.

Defying_Madness

I have all 3 RIP
Went from 19 to 16
Now I am stuck with the situation of whether I keep Balta who is going to bleed to field more

Russty_

Balta named in the Ruck DM…could score ok this week.

Defying_Madness

Interesting, won't be able to pull off an upgrade if I keep him though so it's tough

Dash

May have to hold him one more week and hope he goes 80ish and drop under 300K. Not sure

redherringfc

Hately is named in the bottom half of the emergencies. Seriously doubt he’ll get a run.

iLoveNMFC

Worth going Hore to Sicily/Ryan to field 18 or go Parker to Marshall and cop 17 on field?

Russty_

I reckon Hore's worth hanging onto for awhile, depends how many trades left though, Parker to Marshall is a win also.

Lekdog

Unplanned live stream, come chat #supercoach here: https://www.twitch.tv/lekdoggames

Rick Grimes

Looks like I'll be fielding 15. Haha. Oh well, Corbett and Young were probably only good for 40 between them, so no great loss.

Russty_

Sorry for your loss this week Rick…I'm playing you 😉

redherringfc

Oh dear, only 12 starters before trades.

But no money and no rookies to bring in.

I’ve got to go Naish and then Hately or Clark. And that’s purely to be able to bring in Robbie Gray.

Brodie

My backline is: Hurn sicily williams Smith Rozee duursma ( answerth clark)

I want Gardner and naish who makes way? Is rozee to pricey to trade down? Does he need to go up next week

Derek

naish has bye next week

Russty_

Answerth and Clark are a pair of yoyo scorers, Rozee and Duursma are still posting decent scores.

Brodie

Thank you russty. Just could get a nice bank from rozee but your right he’s consistent

Russty_

I guess do what you need to do Brodie if it includes making money for upgrades next week.

Brodie

Yeah In desperate need of cash Derek so gotta nite the bullet early. Need a few big upgrades next round

Big G

Is that Robbie young more useless than menadue?

Russty_

He is now that he's been dropped.

Rick Grimes

Yes. Menadue has tonnes up. RY dreams of cracking the 50.

Huzzah

Can you loophole an emergency with a bye player?

Saritz

Yes

hedski

Easier just to put them (emergency) on field and bye players to the bench Huzzah?

Dash

Who goes first Balta, Corbett, Burgess, Clarke, Atkins. Which 3 would you get out this week.
I'm thinking Clarke, Corbett at least. Any suggestions?

Russty_

I'd get rid of Corbett, Burgess and Clark, keep Balta and Atkins for now.

Dash

Thanks, did you see my team up above. Thinking I can't make much money off Corbett and Burgess. Maybe the 3 you mentioned for Bewley, Gardner and R Gray?

Russty_

Yeah just had a look, cause I hit the recent comments button your team is way down the list…anyways, I think it's important to get rid of dropped guys mate especially if they're already crap scorers, you need players playing, and Balta and Atkins are still playing, you could turf Balta next week? Clark is playing but goes missing in games and is a freakin yoyo boy.

Dash

With Gold Coast having the bye next week, that will be 2 weeks without Burgess and Corbett anyway. Did you like my trades or would you go something a bit different. Only one on the bubble is Bewley, but could go Gardner at 102k also

Russty_

Yeah Bewley Gardner and Gray sounds all right, all risky but it's a risky game bud.

Dash

I mean Clark – Geelong

WorstCoachEver

Uh Oh I've managed to do a SoS.
This week I only have 12 players capable of senior AFL football. Ouch!
Of my 12 players this week 33% were purchased for less than 130K but Balta and Gardner are among them.
33% are midpricers BSmith,Williams,Marshall,MCrouch
33% Premo Cripps,Jelly,Fyfe,and Dunkley

It's not really a SoS because I have an equal balance of good bad and ugly.

Josh

The outs have left me in major strife with only 13 playing pre trades
19 trades, 102k in the bank
Any suggestions???
Thinking Clark, Hore and someone else out
Def: Laird, LLoyd, Sicily, Crisp, Hore, Clark (Burgess, Answerth)
Mid: Cripps, Fyfe, MacRae, MCrouch, Merrett, Walsh, Brayshaw, Duursma (Stocker, Baker, Scott)
Rucks: Gawn, Grundy (Bines)
Fwd: Kelly, Danger, Heeney, Daniel, Parker, Balta (Setterfield, Young)

manolaki

Clark definitely out
Move Duursma to def
Bring in Gardner, Bewley and maybe one upgrade like Burgess or Answerth to Ryan? Or Balta to Boak?

ROB14

What's the go with Rockliff?

Russty_

Still having hamstring issues ROB, didn't make the trip.

ROB14

Shit.. Hold or move on?!

Russty_

I'd be tempted to trade up!

TelescopicCox

I’m thinking of moving to Bont. Rocky never ever again for me

JEL

I don't mind Rocky.
All I wanted was some good scores and for him to last until the byes.
He's ticked both boxes for me.

Dan

Is it worth bringing in Bewley or better to wait for Clarke (I probably only have room for 1 of them in my midfield)?

redherringfc

I’d go with Bewley. He’s a fair bit cheaper, is guaranteed a price rise and probably has better job security.

Yeahnah

hmm… got 17 on field now with one trade left this week, might just cop the 0.

Brodie

D Clarke bewley naish hind & gardener..
which are the best rookies to go? I need 3
I want JS not fussed about byes Nxt week.. ie naish

Russty_

Gardner, Naish and Clarke I reckon, Bewley's only playing 63% gametime and Hind could be out just as quickly as he was in.
Naish and Clarke already posted good scores, Bewley's averaging 40 odd

Brodie

Thanks russty

James

Caleb Daniel, Rowan Marshall or the POD Robbie Gray as my penultimate forward, moving Westhoff to F7/R3 once I bring in dunkley in a few weeks

Brn

Daniel

iLoveNMFC

Marshall

Russty_

Marshall or Daniel lol

KSinny

Have to get a defender for Burgess, who do I get $545k or below. Already got Sicily, Houli

Brn

Gardner if you need someone who will play more than 1 game. Naish if all u need is this week

hedski

Looks like I'm fielding 17 again this week.
I hate the byes.
Not sure I'll even get 17 next week.
I hate the byes.

TommyC99

Probably a popular question but Naish or Clarke?

COREYSC

Clarke

COREYSC

Hold B.Smith and trade Hore To Sicily have 18 players
Or Hold Hore trade B.Smith and have 17 players?

Quickly!!!!!

Brn

Get 18 on the park

Brn

Smith is just as good as hore

COREYSC

Sorry it’s 16 or 17

JohnDJ59

I'm holding Hore as my D6 and trading B.Smith to Laird.

Russty_

Good call mate…Hore could even be a keeper, Smith is underwhelming and disappointing….seems to have gone backwards.

Brn

Balta first ruck. Going to have to back him in to beat his BE because who else is there

Brn

His 51 on ground is better than a donut so i'm still happy

Holty01

Good luck everyone for the week 👍

Russty_

Same to you bud, how many did you get on the park this week?

Russty_

Can't really predict anything to do with this game….haha, 18 on this week is a win though.

Holty01

Wow, just looked at the teams and ouch. Was planning having 20 this week but with Corbett and Rocky out, will just scrap in with 18.☹️

Swans2012

Me too holt, young and burgess my villains, still 18 will do

JohnDJ59

Having 18 on field this weekend is a winner Holty.

Derek

Same here.

Rocky, Stocker, Burgess and Young.

20 becomes 16

Sicily and Bewley will just be 18 for me.

Lazza

That’s shire Holty.. I’m in the same boat .. been travelling .. just saw the ins and outs .. went from a sure 18 on the field to 15… and I don’t think I can use my 3 trades to get to 18 without stuffing up my planned team. One wrong trade now will cost me two down the track .. looks like I’ll start with 17..

Mike M

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hedski

Just checked my match ups for the week.
Playing some bloody good coaches.
NDD
DontBlushBaby
Derek
Tophawk
Gator (×2)
The Ranger
Lekdog
Enshala (not sure of his handle on here but played him a few times in the last couple of years and he goes well)

Good luck to you gentlemen and everyone one else in the shittiest of bye rounds 👍🍻

Derek

Bit of pot luck during the byes. Should be close games

hedski

Yeah it's a shit storm Derek

Russty_

Great to see Balta's outscoring M.Crouch, and I have them both uuuuurgh
Way to really lift in your 100th game FK Face!

JohnDJ59

I just logged on and saw that Russty, I thought maybe M.Crouch must have been injured again. I am also going to lose all my games since everyone I'm playing has more players on the park than I do, not that would be very hard to do this week.

Russty_

The way my players are going this week mate, I would've been better off not trading at all…Crouch has been bloody useless, and Balta.

Finnius

Wtf is Matt crouch doing?

Russty_

Fan Footy is frozen so who knows?

hedski

Impersonating a Muppet?

Russty_

Or impersonating a Garden Gnome?…at least Muppets do something.
Garden Gnomes just sit there doing FK all.

Derek

He had a big 3rd quarter. Brad stopped

COREYSC

Next Year I’m picking a side that has 20 for each week of the byes before the season starts i’m Sick and tired of being caught out after hours of preparation in the weeks leading up and a excel spreadsheet!

Russty_

That still won't help you, you'll still get shafted somehow come the bye rounds.

TRIGGA_HAPPY

Stuff the byes

Russty_

Yeah stuff the byes, he'd be ranked 57000 doing that plan…and then maybe move up towards 27000 after the byes.

Twilightingale

Still need a bit of luck. Can't plan for injuries / suspensions to premiums. Can't plan rookies to get dropped and not play when you need them.

TRIGGA_HAPPY

C'mon crouching one!

Crouching two he do well but crouching one play like grasshopper.

Time to become the windscreen not the bug crouching one.

Brodie

Merrett, Cunnington or bont? Walsh too Neale next week