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It’s not just above Princess Park dark stormclouds are gathering this week, they’ve also arrived to the world of fantasy football in the ominous form of the byes. While Lek sprints off to help deal with his beloved Blues, he leaves the two chuckleheads in charge of keeping the danger at bay.
Stephen Coniglio is dead (to us), long live Stephen Congilio as a valid premium midfield option… apparently? Or apparently not? Damo and Patch unpack the mystique and confusion are Steghen Gonigliog, who scores TWO HUNDRED AND SEVEN POINTS on the weekend, IF YOU DON’T MIND. Which as a matter of fact we do considering we traded him out three weeks ago.
Anyway, his big score is here to stay, but should we pick him? What do we do with Sloane, Crouch, Whitfield and co.? How do we byes? Do we downgrade, upgrade, or sidegrade, forever twirling towards freedom? Confused? We gotcha. Plug in the headphones and enjoy a sensible, rational analysis of the byes.
What are your moves this week?
Cheers for stepping up for me boys, been busy briefing Juddy for footy classified
I’m well prepared Lek, thanks for your help!
And I put it to you that you come under scrutiny for using A SC expert to help you with your PR and in your role as communicator of Carlton, what do you think the Carlton fanbase would say about that?
Where was this LekDog when Brendan Bolton was hired? I mean was he even in the room ???
Too many players have poor set shot routines and too many easy kicks at goals are being missed.
Llllllllllloooooooyd!
Annoys me nearly as much as those flogs and their dribble kicks.
Carro everyone is entitled to their opinion but my whereabouts during the Bolton hire aren't relevant. he club made a decision and I supported them at the time and I support them still.
None of your business Caro
In more pressing issues did anyone get on my Multi?
First one you've got up in years, wish I backed it!
FIRST 1 I HAVE EVER BACKED!! $900 PROFIT!! CHEERS MICK!!
SHOULD'VE BET THE HOUSE đ
This weeks multi on the show you cant lose.. Re-invest your $900 Mad Mike and more..
My move are, I’m not doing anything this week. I have 21 players playing this week. Se I’m not trading in anyone who’s got a bye coming up. Seems pointless to me.
So you have 21 playing with the likes of Hore, Hurn, Sloane, Whitfield and a rumour of Grundy a bit sore who could miss?
Gee I’m really jealous.âšī¸
Grundy is listed as Injury / Ankle – Return / TBC … that's not promising .. but he does have till Monday … the last thing those with Grundy need is to have the big C on him and then he is a late out.
I sure do holty.
Lloyd, Stewart, rich, Smith and Answerth in defence.
Cripps, coniglio, Bradshaw, stack, stocker and Atkins in mid.
Goldstein and Gawn in ruck.
Kelly, Dangerfield, Heeney, Moore, petrucellue and setterfield in forward line.
I ah e 17 trades and 90k in the bank. Plus my team scores 2389 on the weekend and cognilio wasn’t my captain.
So yep happy to save my trades this week and let my best 18 infield score for me then next week go hard on the trades.
you will need more than 90k in the bank to go hard
I’m in the same boat Paul, and also intend not to trade. To take Holty’s point however, I have Hore and Grundy in that 21. I also have Williams and M Crouch. As such, I can’t really make any firm decisions until the teams drop.
That said, the only 2 rookies that played on the weekend that I’d consider trading in ( Bewley and Clarke) have a bye this week, and if Hinge gets recalled, he has a bye next week.
Oh, it could be a very messy week I’m afraid with some very big decisions to be made.
Crouch will play this week. Just reported on Adelaides triple M
Great news. Instant de boar tag
Unless Sloane gets up
I have 19 on field plus Whitfield and Williams .. so potentially 21.
I don't have Hore, Hurn, Sloane or Grundy … will have 2 of those post byes.
But I will trade at least this one this week to build the bank for R14.
As it stands, i have 18 playing this week (and ROB on bench)
The 18 includes; Whitfield, Williams, Hore, MCrouch, Rockliff & Grundy
Doesn't look good for ROB. Jacobs killed them in the seconds last week.
Didn't plan to trade in any keepers this week prior to them having their bye, looks like i will have to.
Rocky has bye, 18 without him
Oh, that is shiteful… With Whitfield's collarbone I will be swapping him out for Laird, Lloyd or Houli..
Collarbone break & surgery is 6 weeks at the earliest…
Cameron said he should be back after the bye
Port have the bye mate so your 18 is actually 17 coz Rocky left the lions a couple of years ago
Funny how Rocky doesn’t get a blue dot in SC
Yeah I noticed that as well.
Williams and Crouch should be ok Derek but with Whitfield out you might need to move ROB and Whitfield on for a warm bodies I think.
Gotta hope Hore and Grundy play too.
i dream of having 21 players during a bye round.
That is like having 3 loopholes without having to loop anyone.
3 free hits
that is trouser stretching
Im stuggling to trade any rookies either, all got cash to maybe if hore is out this week I think he goes as it essentially means 2 weeks, but beyond that not much going on.
Sitting on 22 players but that's including Hore, Williams, Whitfield, Grundy & M.Crouch. Is there any merit in offloading someone like Petruccelle early to Gardner, as my R13 bye is looking shaky. With 18 trades left and sitting 26K, I feel I need to be aggresive to push for a half decent rank
I'm considering this too, thinking of bringing in Boak and Bewley for Constable and Shai Bolton. At the moment have 22 players playing this week, including Grundy, Hore, Williams.
Dont mind the strategy tbh
Is laird a good choice to bring in for whitfield?
I trust him more than houli and he has my most favourable bye considering the upgrades I plan to make over the next few weeks.
Any other suggestions? Already have lloyd, sicily and hurn
Think it’s a pretty safe bet mate. Can’t go wrong……hopefully
He's been solid but not great this year, not a bad choice
Houli. Same bye as Whitfield and been going big
My issue with houli is a combination of injury concerns (especially the last 3 years), he just turned 31, and he has never averaged over 94. He also seems to beat up on the weaker teams and the tigers draw is getting harder.
I know the additions to adelaide have meant that laird isnt getting those 40+ disposal matches (yet), but he has only scored under 80 a handful of times a year. Will have to do i guess
Handful of times in the past three years
I'll let others take the punt on Houli but he burned me badly a few years ago and I still see him as a big injury risk. Laird is the safer pick and the one I'll be going to, we can't go to Hurn because of his injury and Stewart is probably a better pick but has that terrible bye that will inevitably cause a doughnut and negate himself as the better pick. TO LAIRD I GO! Also has some upside but I'm just expecting a 100 average from here on. Whitfield a Half decent sideways trade option when he comes back for one of the other defenders if you're so inclined but I reckon his current game style might not be suited to his skinny body. He goes in hard for such a slender man, boy needs to eat
I've got Houli so Laird for me
Whitfield has had surgery on his collarbone this morning and not available til after GWS’s Rd 14 bye
Thinking of holding. Have decent enough cover in Duursma and Answerth
GWS saying not available 'until after' the bye. That could mean 2-3 weeks after the bye, not necessarily the first week after.
Yeah a collarbone you’d think would be almost 5-6 weeks minimum especially with how conservative GWS are.
agreed six minimum – they can afford to be conservative, I'm dumping him for Houli
A collarbone break & surgery is typically 6 weeks recovery at the earliest… often longer depending on the type of surgery..
Get your trading shoes on…
bloody hell, been a tough few weeks in SC land
Collarbone break & surgery is typically 6 weeks at the earliest… depending on the type of surgery it can be longer,, time to trade..
GWS Twitter confirms Whitfield out, had surgery on broken collarbone.
Cameron said he expects Williams to be available.
Kills us all, flicking him to laird pocket 65k get him when his break even settles could pick him back up for 520k
3 weeks in a row he’s been my top priority to bring in, but covering donuts on my other lines has meant he kept getting put off.
I’m cheering. I wish him a speedy recovery (round 15 for my last upgrade)
Cameron said he should be ok after the bye
How long after the bye is anyone’s guess. GWS are normally pretty shady in this department. I’ll hold him this week. Allow for further updates on his status. That said, my round 13 team might mean he gets minced…
Anyone had a look at Darcy Parish? Really liked his last two games – obviously, the big knock is inconsistency in his scoring.
Hurn likely to miss 1 to 2 weeks. His bye is next week.
Duursma – hurn rd 15
Final upgrade
Thoughts on Wayne Milera at 420k, 94 avg without injury score and suits bye structure very well
also Robbie gray an option at a similar price
I don't mind Milera at his price. Going Whitfield to him pockets 150K, which could be a blessing in disguise to finish upgrades on other lines
Regarding Whitfields Clavicle.
No studies have ever been conducted by the AFL into recovery patterns for players with Clavicle fractures.
The National Hockey League in USA is the closest 'similar' contact sport to footy that has researched Clavicle fractures among players and these are the results
15 athletes were identified; 10 were treated operatively and 5 non-operatively. The average return to ice hockey was 10 weeks. If the one outlier is removed, the average is 9.1 weeks. There was one re-fracture in the non-operative group. The average time from injury to return to sport was 65 days in the operative group and 97.6 days in the non-operative group. Two patients were unable to return play during the same season.
Whitfield would have had a plate inserted I say 6-weeks minimum on sidelines and then 2-3 weeks of uncertainty and confidence issues.
Is it worth holding him? Hahahahahahahahahahaha…..yeah sure.
Brilliant analysis. I attempted a bruen manoeuvre by trading him to Fyfe after his cork injury. Looked a complete balls up when he returned with that 170. Now looking ok.
Spot on Dr Oetker. I had a collarbone break when I was younger. Trust me, they take time to heal. I could not play any sport for 8 weeks. And mine was a fracture and not even a clean break. Whitfield will be out for 6-8 weeks. It's time to punt his backside out of the TH side for a second time this season. See you next year buddy. One trade for me this week. OUT: Whitfield IN: Max Gawn via multiple DPP's. I got it done. BANG.đĒđĨ
Nice job finally getting Gawn in TH, I punted ROB last week for a rookie and Whitfield last week…yay.
Still don't have Grundy.
Based on the data from USA I have to suggest that the 4-weeks stated on the latest official AFL injury list is just a cunning plan to screw those supercoaches who are considering holding Lachie.
USA ave is 65 days from break to return 65 days = 9.2 weeks. Even if whitfield recovers twice as fast as Yankee hockey players do he will still be out for more than 4 weeks.
To help ease the pain may I suggest the Papa Guiseppe Deep Dish Firebreather
The baker. Dr.oetker?
In planning for the other rounds I’ve managed to only have 16 players this week. Gonna bring in baker for Scott, are there any other rookies playing not on a bye?
Hatleyđ¤đģ
You might get lucky with Hately coming into the GWS side this week. On the bubble and might have decent JS with Whitfield out. Cheers Ja. TH
Wont it be a straight swap Williams for Whitfield?
I kept Williams over the last 3 weeks. Thank fark for that. So I decided to punt Whitfield for Max Gawn. Incredibly, I was able to do it. I had both Answerth and Duursma in my midfield. Moved Duursma to the backline to open up a midfield spot, then moved Mundy from my forward line to the midfield to open up a forward spot, then moved Westhoff to my forward line from the ruck, which opened up a spot in the ruck. Welcome Max Gawn!! Finally have Grawndy. Thats my only trade this week. Claw back two. Leaves me with 14 trades. Going hard this year. Cheers Trigga!
You lost me at Westhoff. đĨ´
Nice work TH making the Grundy thing work, at least that's a trade worth making, last week I punted ROB to get Whitfield in and now he's out and I still don't have Grundy…yay!
Will have to hang onto Goldy a little while longer and god knows who to get in for Whitfield this week.
Hope you're staying out of the wild weather…it's pretty wild and wooly at the moment down south in W.A where I am now.
I think Cumming goes out for Williams. Hately might be a chance to come in for Whitfield, with someone like Taranto taking on Whitfield's role.
Rotham could play with Hurn out
Yeah but you risk only getting one price rise out of both rotham and hately. Be prepared for them to play onr game then get dropped for another 5+ weeks
Had been aiming to cull Duursma, Clark and Atkins over byes but they all have money left to make. Been an odd year.
Very odd! Rapt I held Atkins and Stack (and Baker)
Very odd BT! Thanks to Baker, Atkins, Stack and Duursma etc, missing Crouch, Williams, Rocky and Moore/Hore has cost me pretty much nothing. Had my two best scores with multiple outs. The year of rucks and rookies.
Does anyone have any news on Grundy? If he doesn’t play I’m in trouble….
you'd think he'd play, bye next week if it's a small niggle i think he'll play
He trained today
Anyone else considering holding Whitfield? Becomes a bit of a POD if you can get by without trading him
crazy – not for 6 weeks and GWS are most conservative
6 weeks at least I reckon Neil, he'll need strength and conditioning after it heals as well.
Time for Whitfield to go mate. He is done and dusted.
He will miss the majority of the remainder of the season. Has to go
If you are playing for leagues only and you are confident of finishing in top 8, maybe keep him then.
Otherwise trade him
He has to go unfortunately. 6 weeks is far too long to hold
Anyone know how the drafts work during byes? Finn Gat
Hey mate, one of em's set to byes and the other one isn't.
Go into leagues and look at the upcoming games and that'll tell you.
cheers bud thx
Not much money 18k and 18 trades
Any trade advice for byes welcome and the Whitfield news of course.
Laird, Sicily, Whitfield, Duursma, Clark, Answerth, (Burgess, Marsh)
Macrae, Cripps, Fyfe, Neale, Libba, Walsh, Heeney, Atkins, (O Baker, Scott, Setterfield)
Gawn, Grundy, (Bines)
Boak, T Kelly, Dunkley, Danger, J Cameron, Balta (Parker, Corbett)
Straight swap to a Houli/Milera type if you can't afford Lloyd obv
How many players are punters looking at Fielding for the Rd 13 bye. I'm going to struggle to get 16.
Currently 18, 20, 20 for mine
I'll be around 16 or 17 I think. It's not worth bringing in blokes who aren't top 8.players just because their bye works. Might do ok for one round but will fudged for the long term.
21,18,17 before injuries and trades
17 at the moment, but will be 18.
Have to use 8 trades over the next three weeks but I’ll Have 19,18,18 for the byes and just two onfield rookies left after the byes
19… plus Scott and Sweet.
16 as we speak but should be 18
Hopefully 10 premiums and maybe 6 rookies.
Houli or Laird in for Whitfield?
I’m leaning towards Houli right now but still unsure
Gutsy call.
I'm going Houli for his round 14 bye, he's a POD and cause I've already got 3 Crows in my team.
There is Andrews and JJ as well.. both averaging over 100 in the past 5 weeks… and both at a good price.. tho JJ has the bye this week.
Andrews is interesting Lazza… looks very good lately, will rise in price significantly after this week too if he scores ok.
I think I like him over Houli just for the fact that he's young and good, leaves some decent money in the bank too after punting Whitfield.
Very tempted by Andrews and like you say pocket some cash for next upgrade. Was at the Dockers / Brisbane game a week ago and he didn’t lose a contest. Heard he was even better against the Hawks but didn’t see the game.
He was flying last year too Browncow before he copped that whack to the head from Cameron, really looked like a top 6 defender.
Andrews has the potential to score a few 50s or 60s. Not enough of a good sample size this year to consider without taking a massive risk
thinking cunnington for whitfield
Good call. Hope he keeps it up.
Finlayson? Can he pick up the extra points.
Beams out most likely for the year
Who's scoring would improve in the pies mids?
Pendles, Treloar, sidebottom, Taylor Adams
Beams wasn't scoring very well anyway lately was he…he was playing more of a defensive role lately I think? Not like the premo he once was anyway.
Was playing hurt. Sier to come in
Sier's … đ ….. and probably Phillips.
Malthouse inducted into the Hall of fame. I assume it's for the irreparable damage done to the Carlton football club!
Or for being a 3 time premiership coach, and premiership player?
The Coach is always the scapegoat who goes down, they should be looking at the competency of their list managers, Saints included.
Except for the case of the recent sacking of Bolton, definitely the coaches fault
I agree. Bolton is hopefully not the only one to go. Never did get over the Ratts to Malthouse move though.
Nor did my wife .. she refused to support Carlton whilst Malthouse was there … though that might be more to do with the fact she had the hots for Joel Selwood… I told her that Lyon was in the mix … she said that she would be it … she will file for divorce from Carlton this time around …
Carlton was a mess for 10 yrs before mick went there
NOT TRUE
Malthouse started at Carlton in 2013
2007 15th (coach Dennis Pagan/Ratten)
2008 11th (coach Ratten)
2009 7th (coach Ratten)
2010 8th (coach Ratten)
2011 5th (coach Ratten)
2012 10th (coach Ratten)
2013 6th (Coach Malthouse)
2014 13th (coach Malthouse)
2015 18th (coach Malthouse)
It wasn't just that Malthouse reversed the upwards trajectory he also destroyed the confidence of the young players by selling off the experienced KPP's and HARD players thus leaving the young and less physical without support or guidance.
Touhy, Betts, Thornton, Waite, Laidler, Scotland, Henderson, Duigan were all club leaders who were deemed unrequired by Malthouse.
Mad Mick replaced them with superstars like, Kristian Jaksch, Clem Smith, Blaine Boekhurst, Mathew Dick, Mark Whiley, Tom Fields, Brad Walsh, Jaryd Cachia, Troy Menzel, Blain Johnson. You can't blame SoS for those dud picks because Mad Mick was very vocal at the time about how all player recruitment decisions were his alone.
Mick Malthouse is the Stephen Bradbury of AFL coaches, he fell into the coaches position with teams that would have won a premiership without a coach. Every time he had the task of building a team (Footscray and Carlton) he failed dismally. His coaching record for teams that weren't GF contenders before he arrived is 87 wins, 99 losses, 3 Draws
His hall of fame membership is a joke.
What’s Bewley’s JS like?
I want to bring him in for Will Hayes this week to generate some cash for trades over the next two weeks, but don’t want to get rid of one problem for another!
Looks to be really good JS, but there is still a considerable risk in expecting him to play all byes
How many trades do you have?
Im not sure hayes is worth a trade as you would only make $75k ish
I disagree, Brn. I have a feeling he'll be one of the unlucky ones for when Stephen Hill and Harley Bennell returns.
Hey fellas would appreciate some thoughts on a trade offer I received in draft. Coniglio & Oliver for Macrae and Hurn – am I crazy to consider it?
Cheers!
Hurn is out next week.
i would counter the offer with just Cogs for Hurn.
Not much between Oliver and Macrae.
Hurn is better value than Cogs because he is a top 6 defender. Be prepared to pay a premium for them in draft.
Do you have Cogs and Oliver?
Nah I’ve got Macrae and Hurn! Haven’t been able to watch Jmac a lot recently but caught the Eagles game, seems to be in and out of the guts at the moment
Hurn is more valuable in draft than Cogs.
I might think about Hurn for Macrae, but don’t think they would go for that.
If you trade out Hurn and get Cogs (assume Oliver and McCrae are like for like), say they score the same, but your D6 comes on field and your M7 goes to your bench. Usually your D6 is a lot worse than your M7, that is where you lose the points.
Think you might be right, Jonas at D6 and Brayshaw/Steele at M7. Had a frustrating week and a little filthy at myself for drafting Macrae over Grundy, think I’ll hold!
Really appreciate the advice, cheers!
Grundy went #1 in all my drafts
If I plan to bring in Ryan/ Sicily as my Whitfield replacement would it be smarter to pull the trigger this week if I am good for the bye this week? Gives me an extra trade to use next week which is pretty helpful for upgrades and avoiding donuts.
Yes
Makes sense to me
I did that with Bewley last week. Far riskier with rookies but a good strategy if you need to cover injuries going into the byes.
The lack of decent rookies options at the moment is a killer…I usually do three down or at least two down and one up the first week of the byes with the aim of then doing three further upgrades and a luxury corrective over the next two rounds.
Gonna struggle to find three downgrade options.
Big Move in the making.
This week trade out Balta and Setterfiled and bring in Gardener and Ham.
Next week trade out Rozee, Hore, Clark and bring in Boak, Sicily and Ryan (all who have had there byes).
Left with 12 trades in the bank and only needing to upgrade Baker to reach full premium.
Thoughts Community? Feedback strongly encouraged here please đ
Define Premium? To have 18 premo's in your team at this stage of the year would be an outstanding effort.
Agree Lazza I have .18 prems but 5 are sub 500k including some like Danger 499k Marshall and Lobb who are arguably prems because they are forward players Players such as Williams Smith Libba Walsh , though fine players, are a tier below. Bet Hotly hasn't any at R22. I will and for League players Libba types are fine , just not prems. So I have 13 bona fide prems maybe 3 forwards that could be plus 2 pretend prems Smith and Walsh both of whom will go = just saying NDD
LLOYD, HOULI, CRISP, SMITH, HORE, CLARK – BENCH ANSWERTH, BURGESS
KELLY, FYFE, SLOANE, CRIPPS, CONIGLIO, ROCKLIFF, SIDEBOTTOM, BRAYSHAW – BENCH SCOTT, HATLEY, BEWLEY
GRUNDY, GAWN – BENCH CLARKE
KELLY, DANGERFIELD, CAMERON, WESTHOFF, ROZEE, BAKER – BENCH BALTA, SETTERFIELD
Great effort, I'd be upgrading Smith nonetheless to maybe someone like T.Stewart after his R13 bye, plenty of trades you should be looking at getting rid of under performing Rocky/Sidebottom/Brayshaw to a uber premium.
Yeah I will look at upgrading the under performers once I hit full premium. Westhoff and Brayshaw and Smith first go go. Like the Stewart call, pretty consistent and solid down back.
They are the right ones even though all three can go big Westhoff and Brayshaw could improve if played in a better role and Smith is probably top 8 def I have him and will keep him Good luck MM
I count 13… None of Smith, Rockliff, Sidebottom, Brayshaw or Westhoff could be considered premos,
Westhoff and Brayshaw aren't premiums
You need some PODs we will have to see I guess. You would still expect them to score better than rookies.
The upside MM is that any of your 'PODs' can go big .. fingers crossed… only takes 3 of them to get you to a mega score. Good luck..
Well played. That is good.
Is Ham playing?
Playing good in the 2's but cant rely on him to play.
Thinking of bringing in Robbie Gray as a Mid/For bench loophole?
Sounds good. Well done
Hurn out hurts
If Rotham comes in for Hurn this week would he be a viable trade or does job security rule him out?
This is going to be a rough week indeed
J/s ruled rotham out.
Forgetting byes for a hit second, should I ultimately aim for T. Kelly or Dunkley in my FWD line?
Both.
Thats a tough one. Kelly first but if dunkley keeps playing like this he is a clear top 3 fwd.
Trade Whitfield to
Laird? or Ryan?
Laird for me
Alright Guys, I am a mess atm, absolutely no idea what to do over the byes and injuries are killing my team!
Hurn, Whitfield, Laird, Williams, Smith, Hore (Answerth, Burgess)
Cripps, MacRae, Fyfe, Treloar, M.Crouch, Steele, Walsh, Duursma (Baker, Scott, Bewley)
Gawn, Goldy (Scott)
Dangerfield, Boak, Heeney, Kelly, Dunkley, Setterfield (Corbett, Young)
15 trades left….. 54k in the bank
It's not panic time.
Are you playing for League wins or overall Rank?
I'm in a similar position and playing for Leagues only, will only have 16 or 17 on field depending on injuries.
Chances are I am up against someone in my league in a similar position, so makes us roughly even.
I am already sitting in the top 4 of most of my leagues so happy to take a doughnut rather than waste a trade.
I'm not trading this week but looking to trade all 6 over the next two weeks to bring in more keepers.
Just my situation and not making any wild trades.
Whitfield to either T Stewart or L Ryan and bank some cash then upgrade Steele.
Even with 15 trades left? Doing both of those won't leave me with many after I upgrade the rookies I still have on field
Not too many upgrades left for you mate. If you are playing for rank go for it and hope you come out with 5 or so trades remaining and can hold on. Otherwise assess your goals
Who would you trade in for Whitfield out of: Sicily or Ryan?
Sicily for Consistency, Ryan for Ceiling
Both good options
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We will be better next week, and good luck for the byes!
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Whitfield to Houli – I'm not thinking about it too heavily I'm just gonna pull the trigger on the bloke – he's racking them up like they are going out of fashion. Leaves me with this team…
B – Houli, WIlliams, Laird, Sicily, Salem, Smith (Answerth, Lockhart)
M – Neale, Macrae, Cripps, Oliver, M Crouch, Libba, Stack, Duursma (Atkins, Scott, Hayes)
R – Gawn, Goldy (Sweet)
F – Kelly, Danger, Marshall, Heeney, Baker, Moore (Setterfield, Young)
16 trades, 30k bank
Thinking of going Libba to Cunnington and Moore up to Walters but need some rookies to downgrade to (Dylan Clarke etc). Any feedback or thoughts would be great community!
Hope you're all ready for the byes xo
Hey lads, so have to offload whitfield this week. I still don't have Lloyd so that would have been the ideal switch but with only 15 playing next week i dont think its an option (haven't included hayes or ROB but have included Burgess and young even though they are a good chance of missing).
Do i trade in someone with this bye ie Sicily or Ryan which leaves me with 18 this week but i'll be at 16 players playing before i bring in the likes of bewley and Bont next week? or do i trade in someone who has the round 14 bye i.e cogs, Houli, Dusty? Feel like only 18 this week is quite light on but long term i see sicily and Ryan being better picks
I’d go sic and you may want to go early on the likes of a Bewely/gardner eg this week to give you more trades next week if needed
Second going early, probably on Bewley. He is ready built so its now or never for his afl career – they will want games into him.
Moreover, Ryan is the best choice if your backline is in need of a gamble. With his ceiling he could easily have a purple patch run of 130+ scores. Sicily will consistently average the ton for you, and is the choice I have gone for.
How lucky do you feel?
And yes 18 on field this week is good enough considering the premium outs. Whitfield to sicily, ryan or laird (?) would be my move
How many weeks is Hurn expected to miss? Is Rotham a chance to replace him?
Only this week. Should be back round 14 after the eagles bye
Why is it that everybody feels Bewley’s JS is good? He hasn’t exactly set the world on fire, has he
Mitch Duncan so underrated in comparison to Dangerfield.
Gets the job done and have had him all year. Where's his fishing show?
If Sloane doesn’t play this week I’m very tempted to trade him out. Last time the Crows said someone is 50/50 to play they ended up missing 3 weeks and might even miss this week again. But the scariest thing is the rd14 bye which I would think if Sloane doesn’t play, there is a fair chance he will miss next week as well which means we don’t see him until rd15. It could be a long waitđ¤
IMO, with your rank I would be trading , some who are playing for leagues will keep him though
I know. I’m in some money leagues this year and normally holding is exactly what I’d do but thinking I’m happy to sacrifice the cash leagues to give myself a chance for overall. Guess I’ll wait and see the damage with team selections tomorrow night.
Hi Holty. I think you need to make some moves mate IMO. (Not that my advice counts for much with my mediocre ranking). However, if I was ranked 27th, you have to go all out and play very aggressively in order to push for the $50K. You have Whitfield and Sloane. Both need to be punted this week. Get it over and done with. You have Hurn also which really complicates things for you. I reckon you could turn Whitfield into Sicily/Laird/Ryan or even Andrews type and Sloane needs to turn into Josh Kelly or Stephen Coniglio. It would take enormous pressure off your team as Hurn will still be sitting on your bench this week which is then backed up with his bye. I guess you could pick the premo defender based around your bye structure to help get through round 13 and 14. Whatever you choose to do Holty, hope you you make all the right moves and snaffle the cash!! Cheers mate. TH
Agree with TH. Whitfield has to go. Although Sicily and Ryan both have the bye this week. Laird would be a same bye swap. Or Houli is you don’t have him. Sloane is a wait and see.
Thanks Hawk. Radio today said Sloane still a chance of playing. Not exactly sure how that is possible but will wait and see.
Those trades you mentioned are identical to what I was thinking but Laird suits my bye structure better as I have my side ready for the byes and replacing those 2 with other rd14 bye players makes sense.
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I'm $5k short for a Whitfield to Lloyd trade.
Should I settle for a trade down to Laird or trade down to a second rate rookie to get Lloyd?
If you bring Lloyd in this week you get one game before bye, Laird you get two games.
Thanks
Good point
yeah but by the end of the byes you get 2 games from each
unless it’s your last defender position go for Laird and get Lloyd after his bye.
Anyone heard about M Hore at all? Please tell me he's going to be playing this week.
Saw him having kick to kick with Hannan outside the main group but looks ok. He’s a chance, but Melbourne likely to bring May back this week as well.
Both Lever and May likely to return this week according to SEN 12:00 news.
Latest afl article re lever says Salem and Hore are set to return! đ
Can Hore, Lever and May play in the same backline? Salem to come back in as well. Will they make that many changes?
Hore has arguably been one of their best players so think he would be very unfortunate to be dropped.
I'm telling you he's going to be playing this week Taz đ
Astbury and Ellis out for the tigers. Could be a debut on the cards for Naish.
Anyone know what happened to Lockhart? Havnt heard anything about him.
Sore knee, not sure how bad though.
Grundy will play đ
Matt Owies to play for the Blues $102K Fwd/Mid
Any good lek?
Have they left daisy out again…. Whose place is Owies taking?
Yeah bit concerning with stocker and setters
No Owies anywhere on the list.
Always have the inside word Lek…
*checks teams*
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That competes with the front bar Lek. I admire your gumption but taking them on is like the flea fighting the rottwieler. I reckon that you'd probably double your audience if you went up against a softer target. Post front Bar is the perfect time
Stocker out. I don’t have him but plenty will be relying on him you’d think.
Yeah I was SS, another warm body gone.
Sloane not out atm so fingers crossed he isnt a late out.
Sloane and Crouch playing..happy days but Stocker out injured.
Make that Sloane…maybe playing lol, could still be a late out apparently., for Greenwood.
Not as much carnage as I thought phew… still sweating on Sunday teams tomorrow though. Looks like a lot of possible ins for Melbourne too
Hey TBone, at least Hore's named on the field, that helps me đ
Who you sweating on mate?
Yeah didn’t notice that before mate! With him and Baker being named on field I feel a lot better about final team selections. Was nervous about Baker after I saw that Stocker was out, but it looks like I will be able to field 19 this week. How many you got on field this week right now Russty?
Got 19 on mate, but Whitfield on the bench, think I need to get rid of him.
Hayes worth trading. Only 15 trades left
Im still holding, but only because I can’t get enough out of him to make it worthwhile.
Pretty sure next week I’ll trade out Hayes, Scott and any other spud, non-playing rookie so I can bring in 3 replicas (or god forbid, 2 new spuds and the Hoff)
Stocker the only week I actually need you
Stocker out hurts as i now only have 17 playing, so even if i get 18 i'm gonna have to take Burgess' score *shudder.*
So i have Whitfield and Hurn warming the pine, was thinking hold Hurn and trade Whtfield. But only options i like (excluding round 13 bye players) are Bont, Ryan, Sicily and Merett, who are all not playing this week. I could just go for a Lloyd or T Kelly but i am already struggling next week with 15 (including young and Burgess who could get dropped, but im not including Bewley and possibly Gardner)
That leaves me the following options: Cogs, Sloane, Cunnington.
Are there any rookies worth bringing in that are playing this week? Cunnington looks the only decent pick out of those 3.
Any help would be great. Suggestions of round 14 bye players also would be great (currently have Crouch, Laird, Cameron and Williams). As i mentioned above i could just bite the bullet and grab Lloyd but i could be struggling next week.
I'd probs go for Sicily Tommy.
Hey Russty! so you would basically sacrifice a zero this week? If i want 18 this week its either Lloyd or Cunnington i think.
Yeah probably Tommy cause you said you were struggling with maybe 15 next week?
If you have 17 this week, chances are many other guys will have 20…so you'll lose anyway.
Reckon you need to try and get 18 on next week.
If you trade Whitfield out, you’ll end up trading him back jn
Is it worth holding 565k for 6 to 8 weeks though?
Yeah exactly if he can somehow cover yeah but surely not I think it’s a must trade you can’t afford to have him on your bench for 6-8 weeks maybe more who knows with GWS
The byes can get fckd, I thought I kept an eye on them but looks like they'll screw me over again.
Stuff it might just fill my team with cats, tempted to bring in the two Toms this week and next week be damned.
Just make you, me and your Dog some Beer Martinis mate and everything will be ok đ
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I hear ya man, planned well and backfired hard…. filled my team with cats now also, all 5 of em, cant make it any worse lol
Nice one Dingus, might chuck the vc on Hawk tomorrow night if I go thru with it
I planned last year and got injuries – got screwed.
So this year I went with "stuff the byes"! đ
Yeah you can add me to the fck the byes crew.
I'm just giving Rd.13 away and concentrating on the other two.
Thanks to whoever it was that recommended I trade out Lachie Whitfield as he was going to lose 150k.
He didn't.
Traded him back in.
Broken collarbone.
Ruinous season carries on.
I suggested that. And did it. Got Fyfe in at a very cheap price. Missed that 170 but have avoided the carnage. Mistake was trading him back in. This game is about sell high buy low
Stop breaking player's Collarbones Rick! đ
Do I trade Whitfield to someone like Lloyd or Hold?
I have 15 trades left And 4 rookies on field to upgrade.
Bye structure is fine, should have 18 all 3 weeks.
Its an interesting one. On one hand 15 trades left with just 4 premo's to get in is plenty. However, because of the byes, a Whitfield 4 week injury is essentially just 3 games he'll be missing for. So given you have set yourself up to get through the byes with 18 each week, I would lean towards a hold and save the trade. With everyone feverishly rushing to finish their teams, Whitfield will be traded out heavily and could be a POD for you in the later part of the year!
The problem is will it be only 4 weeks… GWS love to hold their players back.
I’d say not, generally takes 6 weeks to heal from surgery let alone how long it will take to build strength back up. He’s more likely to miss 8 weeks than 4
True dat!…how many times when you're looking on the injury list each week, the same guy with the same amount of weeks to go as the week before?
I'd trade him out.
Patch – Herculean effort from you on this POD. Most improved AFL broadcaster 2019 is in the bag.
Hats off.
Naish gets a gig 2mrw night.
Hopefully he can bring his VFL form to the big stage.
So why is Houli scoring so big? Any tigs fans fill me in, is he taking all the kick ins? hes avg'd 85 his for like 8 seasons and now hes busting out 20 ppg extra?
I think he's become the backline General now Daz, no Rance, no Short and now no Ellis too.
He's taking the extra responsibility.
He’s playing the lloyd seagull role playing extra in defence and racking them up
He has been taking kick outs too.
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thoughts on JJ as a sneaky pod, less than 0.5% of teams and has proven that he can score pretty well in the past , worried my team is too generic and with 20 trades can afford to take a risk on a defender, also considering Blakely or Milera
I like it
Prefer milera.
I had planned to cash ROB in this week to fund my bye trades. Do you think this is still the way to go? Or hold now and hope he plays next week (currently 17 playing next week if Stocker misses again)?
I'm holding. Surprised Jacobs didn't come in though.
I'm 3 short before trading (damn you Hurn & Whitfield). I can make 3 trades to get 18 on the park but I'll have to bring in a rookie which is pretty bare.
I think Rotham will be named (with Hurn out) but good chance will be gone when Hurns back.
So should I go blind on Naish? Or go with Rotham? (assuming named)
Depends how many trades you have and how much you need the $60k odd that Rotham will increase. I probably wouldn’t go for it and definitely wouldn’t go blind on naish.
Both might only play 1 week. Naish might go back out for Ellis next week. Did you get Baker? I decided to go him even though he has had a price rise.
Maybe you just need to take your medicine this week Sharkmove, not worth bringing in rookies with no js
Had same Qs and undecided too. Looking for other options if i can as need JS more than points right now.
Yes fellas I wouldn't usually get a rookie before he has played but Richmonds rookies have been awesome this year and this kids been carving up the Magoo's.
Also, I reckon in the back half of the season JS of rookies becomes less important and starting price more important. As your team becomes full premo your less likely to need rookies and you're more unlikely to cash them in as trades from here on in are injury trades.
Just my take fellas, anyway I went Baker haha Good luck all!
Whitfield to Cunnington via Duursma DPP
How's that trade work? You trading out dursma too?
I had Duursma in the mids. Swapped him to the backline and went Whitfield to Cunnington
How though? I don't understand. Whitfield is defender. And cunnington is a mid. I'm sorry I'm confused lol
When you trade someone you can switch dual position players into their other position by clicking the s on the team page. Eg Duursma has dpp defender/midfield – by trading whitfield you can fill whitfields vacant spot by switching duursma to defence with the s(switch) and trade whitfield to someone in the midfield if that makes any sense lol
Ahhh ty i think I get It now
To all those bringing in Houli, Richmond dropped Broad and have Astbury out injured. Geelong have quite a tall forward line. Houli might get a different role this week.
Yeo didn't board the plane to Sydney, might miss with a calf injury.
Anyone know why Bailey Scott is not getting a game
Because he hangs on the opposite side of the ground as far away from the ball as possible.
I'm trying to work out the best way to punt him.
Maybe straight swap for Bennell if he gets named
Was concussed a few weeks back and been trying to recover, stats say he is a bit ball shy currently. He might become DLarke for me next week if his VFL form continues, just really want good bench cover from now on.
rothams been named. should i be trading him in due to total lack of other options i know his js is terrible
Option 1 – O'Brien to Bines and Libba to J Kelly
Option 2 – O'Brien to Bines and Scott (North) to Bewley
Thoughts?
To use the VC loophole can you use a bye round player?
Yep no problem emily.
Thoughts on Connor Blakely as an extremely sneaky pod