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PODCAST | The Stormclouds Gather

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It’s not just above Princess Park dark stormclouds are gathering this week, they’ve also arrived to the world of fantasy football in the ominous form of the byes. While Lek sprints off to help deal with his beloved Blues, he leaves the two chuckleheads in charge of keeping the danger at bay.

Stephen Coniglio is dead (to us), long live Stephen Congilio as a valid premium midfield option… apparently? Or apparently not? Damo and Patch unpack the mystique and confusion are Steghen Gonigliog, who scores TWO HUNDRED AND SEVEN POINTS on the weekend, IF YOU DON’T MIND. Which as a matter of fact we do considering we traded him out three weeks ago.

Anyway, his big score is here to stay, but should we pick him? What do we do with Sloane, Crouch, Whitfield and co.? How do we byes? Do we downgrade, upgrade, or sidegrade, forever twirling towards freedom? Confused? We gotcha. Plug in the headphones and enjoy a sensible, rational analysis of the byes.

What are your moves this week?

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Lekdog

Cheers for stepping up for me boys, been busy briefing Juddy for footy classified

Chris Judd

I’m well prepared Lek, thanks for your help!

Craig Hutchinson

And I put it to you that you come under scrutiny for using A SC expert to help you with your PR and in your role as communicator of Carlton, what do you think the Carlton fanbase would say about that?

Caroline Wilson

Where was this LekDog when Brendan Bolton was hired? I mean was he even in the room ???

Matthew Lloyd

Too many players have poor set shot routines and too many easy kicks at goals are being missed.

Brian Taylor

Llllllllllloooooooyd!

Jason Dunstall

Annoys me nearly as much as those flogs and their dribble kicks.

Lekdog

Carro everyone is entitled to their opinion but my whereabouts during the Bolton hire aren't relevant. he club made a decision and I supported them at the time and I support them still.

Chris Judd

None of your business Caro

MICK MOLLOY

In more pressing issues did anyone get on my Multi?

Lekdog

First one you've got up in years, wish I backed it!

MAD MIKE

FIRST 1 I HAVE EVER BACKED!! $900 PROFIT!! CHEERS MICK!!
SHOULD'VE BET THE HOUSE ๐Ÿ˜›

MICK MOLLOY

This weeks multi on the show you cant lose.. Re-invest your $900 Mad Mike and more..

Paul

My move are, I’m not doing anything this week. I have 21 players playing this week. Se I’m not trading in anyone who’s got a bye coming up. Seems pointless to me.

Holty01

So you have 21 playing with the likes of Hore, Hurn, Sloane, Whitfield and a rumour of Grundy a bit sore who could miss?
Gee I’m really jealous.โ˜น๏ธ

Lazza

Grundy is listed as Injury / Ankle – Return / TBC … that's not promising .. but he does have till Monday … the last thing those with Grundy need is to have the big C on him and then he is a late out.

Paul

I sure do holty.

Lloyd, Stewart, rich, Smith and Answerth in defence.

Cripps, coniglio, Bradshaw, stack, stocker and Atkins in mid.

Goldstein and Gawn in ruck.

Kelly, Dangerfield, Heeney, Moore, petrucellue and setterfield in forward line.

I ah e 17 trades and 90k in the bank. Plus my team scores 2389 on the weekend and cognilio wasn’t my captain.
So yep happy to save my trades this week and let my best 18 infield score for me then next week go hard on the trades.

manolaki

you will need more than 90k in the bank to go hard

Holty01

Crouch will play this week. Just reported on Adelaides triple M

Brn

Great news. Instant de boar tag

Brn

Unless Sloane gets up

Lazza

I have 19 on field plus Whitfield and Williams .. so potentially 21.
I don't have Hore, Hurn, Sloane or Grundy … will have 2 of those post byes.
But I will trade at least this one this week to build the bank for R14.

Derek

As it stands, i have 18 playing this week (and ROB on bench)

The 18 includes; Whitfield, Williams, Hore, MCrouch, Rockliff & Grundy

Doesn't look good for ROB. Jacobs killed them in the seconds last week.

Didn't plan to trade in any keepers this week prior to them having their bye, looks like i will have to.

Derek

Rocky has bye, 18 without him

Lazza

Oh, that is shiteful… With Whitfield's collarbone I will be swapping him out for Laird, Lloyd or Houli..
Collarbone break & surgery is 6 weeks at the earliest…

Derek

Cameron said he should be back after the bye

Bob

Port have the bye mate so your 18 is actually 17 coz Rocky left the lions a couple of years ago

Derek

Funny how Rocky doesn’t get a blue dot in SC

Russty_

Williams and Crouch should be ok Derek but with Whitfield out you might need to move ROB and Whitfield on for a warm bodies I think.
Gotta hope Hore and Grundy play too.

Derek

i dream of having 21 players during a bye round.

That is like having 3 loopholes without having to loop anyone.

3 free hits

that is trouser stretching

Daz

Im stuggling to trade any rookies either, all got cash to maybe if hore is out this week I think he goes as it essentially means 2 weeks, but beyond that not much going on.

TelescopicCox

Sitting on 22 players but that's including Hore, Williams, Whitfield, Grundy & M.Crouch. Is there any merit in offloading someone like Petruccelle early to Gardner, as my R13 bye is looking shaky. With 18 trades left and sitting 26K, I feel I need to be aggresive to push for a half decent rank

Yeahnah

I'm considering this too, thinking of bringing in Boak and Bewley for Constable and Shai Bolton. At the moment have 22 players playing this week, including Grundy, Hore, Williams.

NoLanguage96

Dont mind the strategy tbh

Brn

Is laird a good choice to bring in for whitfield?

I trust him more than houli and he has my most favourable bye considering the upgrades I plan to make over the next few weeks.

Any other suggestions? Already have lloyd, sicily and hurn

Holty01

Think it’s a pretty safe bet mate. Can’t go wrong……hopefully

Lekdog

He's been solid but not great this year, not a bad choice

Mick

Houli. Same bye as Whitfield and been going big

Brn

My issue with houli is a combination of injury concerns (especially the last 3 years), he just turned 31, and he has never averaged over 94. He also seems to beat up on the weaker teams and the tigers draw is getting harder.

I know the additions to adelaide have meant that laird isnt getting those 40+ disposal matches (yet), but he has only scored under 80 a handful of times a year. Will have to do i guess

Brn

Handful of times in the past three years

PizzaSafety

I'll let others take the punt on Houli but he burned me badly a few years ago and I still see him as a big injury risk. Laird is the safer pick and the one I'll be going to, we can't go to Hurn because of his injury and Stewart is probably a better pick but has that terrible bye that will inevitably cause a doughnut and negate himself as the better pick. TO LAIRD I GO! Also has some upside but I'm just expecting a 100 average from here on. Whitfield a Half decent sideways trade option when he comes back for one of the other defenders if you're so inclined but I reckon his current game style might not be suited to his skinny body. He goes in hard for such a slender man, boy needs to eat

Blue

I've got Houli so Laird for me

Maverick_

Whitfield has had surgery on his collarbone this morning and not available til after GWS’s Rd 14 bye

Yeahnah

Thinking of holding. Have decent enough cover in Duursma and Answerth

Grinter

GWS saying not available 'until after' the bye. That could mean 2-3 weeks after the bye, not necessarily the first week after.

Maverick_

Yeah a collarbone you’d think would be almost 5-6 weeks minimum especially with how conservative GWS are.

NoLanguage96

agreed six minimum – they can afford to be conservative, I'm dumping him for Houli

Lazza

A collarbone break & surgery is typically 6 weeks recovery at the earliest… often longer depending on the type of surgery..
Get your trading shoes on…

Daz

bloody hell, been a tough few weeks in SC land

Lazza

Collarbone break & surgery is typically 6 weeks at the earliest… depending on the type of surgery it can be longer,, time to trade..

cash_cows

GWS Twitter confirms Whitfield out, had surgery on broken collarbone.
Cameron said he expects Williams to be available.

Sam_01

Kills us all, flicking him to laird pocket 65k get him when his break even settles could pick him back up for 520k

redherringfc

3 weeks in a row he’s been my top priority to bring in, but covering donuts on my other lines has meant he kept getting put off.

I’m cheering. I wish him a speedy recovery (round 15 for my last upgrade)

Derek

Cameron said he should be ok after the bye

Sana

How long after the bye is anyone’s guess. GWS are normally pretty shady in this department. I’ll hold him this week. Allow for further updates on his status. That said, my round 13 team might mean he gets minced…

Jshch

Anyone had a look at Darcy Parish? Really liked his last two games – obviously, the big knock is inconsistency in his scoring.

DavidC

Hurn likely to miss 1 to 2 weeks. His bye is next week.

TRIGGA_HAPPY

Duursma – hurn rd 15
Final upgrade

Stacky23

Thoughts on Wayne Milera at 420k, 94 avg without injury score and suits bye structure very well

Stacky23

also Robbie gray an option at a similar price

TelescopicCox

I don't mind Milera at his price. Going Whitfield to him pockets 150K, which could be a blessing in disguise to finish upgrades on other lines

DrOetker

Regarding Whitfields Clavicle.
No studies have ever been conducted by the AFL into recovery patterns for players with Clavicle fractures.
The National Hockey League in USA is the closest 'similar' contact sport to footy that has researched Clavicle fractures among players and these are the results
15 athletes were identified; 10 were treated operatively and 5 non-operatively. The average return to ice hockey was 10 weeks. If the one outlier is removed, the average is 9.1 weeks. There was one re-fracture in the non-operative group. The average time from injury to return to sport was 65 days in the operative group and 97.6 days in the non-operative group. Two patients were unable to return play during the same season.

Whitfield would have had a plate inserted I say 6-weeks minimum on sidelines and then 2-3 weeks of uncertainty and confidence issues.
Is it worth holding him? Hahahahahahahahahahaha…..yeah sure.

Brian Taylor

Brilliant analysis. I attempted a bruen manoeuvre by trading him to Fyfe after his cork injury. Looked a complete balls up when he returned with that 170. Now looking ok.

TOPHAWK1

Spot on Dr Oetker. I had a collarbone break when I was younger. Trust me, they take time to heal. I could not play any sport for 8 weeks. And mine was a fracture and not even a clean break. Whitfield will be out for 6-8 weeks. It's time to punt his backside out of the TH side for a second time this season. See you next year buddy. One trade for me this week. OUT: Whitfield IN: Max Gawn via multiple DPP's. I got it done. BANG.๐Ÿ’ช๐Ÿ’ฅ

Russty_

Nice job finally getting Gawn in TH, I punted ROB last week for a rookie and Whitfield last week…yay.
Still don't have Grundy.

DrOetker

Based on the data from USA I have to suggest that the 4-weeks stated on the latest official AFL injury list is just a cunning plan to screw those supercoaches who are considering holding Lachie.
USA ave is 65 days from break to return 65 days = 9.2 weeks. Even if whitfield recovers twice as fast as Yankee hockey players do he will still be out for more than 4 weeks.

To help ease the pain may I suggest the Papa Guiseppe Deep Dish Firebreather

Disco Stu

The baker. Dr.oetker?

Ja191

In planning for the other rounds I’ve managed to only have 16 players this week. Gonna bring in baker for Scott, are there any other rookies playing not on a bye?

COREYSC

Hatley๐Ÿคž๐Ÿป

TOPHAWK1

You might get lucky with Hately coming into the GWS side this week. On the bubble and might have decent JS with Whitfield out. Cheers Ja. TH

TRIGGA_HAPPY

Wont it be a straight swap Williams for Whitfield?

TOPHAWK1

I kept Williams over the last 3 weeks. Thank fark for that. So I decided to punt Whitfield for Max Gawn. Incredibly, I was able to do it. I had both Answerth and Duursma in my midfield. Moved Duursma to the backline to open up a midfield spot, then moved Mundy from my forward line to the midfield to open up a forward spot, then moved Westhoff to my forward line from the ruck, which opened up a spot in the ruck. Welcome Max Gawn!! Finally have Grawndy. Thats my only trade this week. Claw back two. Leaves me with 14 trades. Going hard this year. Cheers Trigga!

redherringfc

You lost me at Westhoff. ๐Ÿฅด

Russty_

Nice work TH making the Grundy thing work, at least that's a trade worth making, last week I punted ROB to get Whitfield in and now he's out and I still don't have Grundy…yay!
Will have to hang onto Goldy a little while longer and god knows who to get in for Whitfield this week.
Hope you're staying out of the wild weather…it's pretty wild and wooly at the moment down south in W.A where I am now.

DavidC

I think Cumming goes out for Williams. Hately might be a chance to come in for Whitfield, with someone like Taranto taking on Whitfield's role.

Sana

Rotham could play with Hurn out

Brn

Yeah but you risk only getting one price rise out of both rotham and hately. Be prepared for them to play onr game then get dropped for another 5+ weeks

Brian Taylor

Had been aiming to cull Duursma, Clark and Atkins over byes but they all have money left to make. Been an odd year.

NoLanguage96

Very odd! Rapt I held Atkins and Stack (and Baker)

Browncow

Very odd BT! Thanks to Baker, Atkins, Stack and Duursma etc, missing Crouch, Williams, Rocky and Moore/Hore has cost me pretty much nothing. Had my two best scores with multiple outs. The year of rucks and rookies.

Tommy

Does anyone have any news on Grundy? If he doesn’t play I’m in trouble….

Ja191

you'd think he'd play, bye next week if it's a small niggle i think he'll play

Shake_n_bake

He trained today

Tony

Anyone else considering holding Whitfield? Becomes a bit of a POD if you can get by without trading him

TOPHAWK1

Time for Whitfield to go mate. He is done and dusted.

Brn

He will miss the majority of the remainder of the season. Has to go

Russty_

6 weeks at least I reckon Neil, he'll need strength and conditioning after it heals as well.

Derek

If you are playing for leagues only and you are confident of finishing in top 8, maybe keep him then.

Otherwise trade him

TelescopicCox

He has to go unfortunately. 6 weeks is far too long to hold

Russty_

Hey mate, one of em's set to byes and the other one isn't.
Go into leagues and look at the upcoming games and that'll tell you.

Dash

Not much money 18k and 18 trades
Any trade advice for byes welcome and the Whitfield news of course.

Laird, Sicily, Whitfield, Duursma, Clark, Answerth, (Burgess, Marsh)
Macrae, Cripps, Fyfe, Neale, Libba, Walsh, Heeney, Atkins, (O Baker, Scott, Setterfield)
Gawn, Grundy, (Bines)
Boak, T Kelly, Dunkley, Danger, J Cameron, Balta (Parker, Corbett)

NoLanguage96

Straight swap to a Houli/Milera type if you can't afford Lloyd obv

Gav

How many players are punters looking at Fielding for the Rd 13 bye. I'm going to struggle to get 16.

Ja191

Currently 18, 20, 20 for mine

Brian Taylor

I'll be around 16 or 17 I think. It's not worth bringing in blokes who aren't top 8.players just because their bye works. Might do ok for one round but will fudged for the long term.

Russty_

17 at the moment, but will be 18.

COREYSC

Have to use 8 trades over the next three weeks but I’ll Have 19,18,18 for the byes and just two onfield rookies left after the byes

Lazza

19… plus Scott and Sweet.

NoLanguage96

16 as we speak but should be 18

redherringfc

Hopefully 10 premiums and maybe 6 rookies.

Tommo09

Houli or Laird in for Whitfield?
I’m leaning towards Houli right now but still unsure

redherringfc

Gutsy call.

KSinny

I'm going Houli for his round 14 bye, he's a POD and cause I've already got 3 Crows in my team.

Lazza

There is Andrews and JJ as well.. both averaging over 100 in the past 5 weeks… and both at a good price.. tho JJ has the bye this week.

Russty_

Andrews is interesting Lazza… looks very good lately, will rise in price significantly after this week too if he scores ok.
I think I like him over Houli just for the fact that he's young and good, leaves some decent money in the bank too after punting Whitfield.

Browncow

Very tempted by Andrews and like you say pocket some cash for next upgrade. Was at the Dockers / Brisbane game a week ago and he didn’t lose a contest. Heard he was even better against the Hawks but didn’t see the game.

Russty_

He was flying last year too Browncow before he copped that whack to the head from Cameron, really looked like a top 6 defender.

Brn

Andrews has the potential to score a few 50s or 60s. Not enough of a good sample size this year to consider without taking a massive risk

ojs

thinking cunnington for whitfield

redherringfc

Good call. Hope he keeps it up.

Disco Stu

Finlayson? Can he pick up the extra points.

Shake_n_bake

Beams out most likely for the year

Libba

Who's scoring would improve in the pies mids?

Pendles, Treloar, sidebottom, Taylor Adams

Russty_

Beams wasn't scoring very well anyway lately was he…he was playing more of a defensive role lately I think? Not like the premo he once was anyway.

Shake_n_bake

Was playing hurt. Sier to come in

Lazza

Sier's … ๐Ÿ™‚ ….. and probably Phillips.

Justin

Malthouse inducted into the Hall of fame. I assume it's for the irreparable damage done to the Carlton football club!

Russty_

The Coach is always the scapegoat who goes down, they should be looking at the competency of their list managers, Saints included.

Timmy

Except for the case of the recent sacking of Bolton, definitely the coaches fault

Justin

I agree. Bolton is hopefully not the only one to go. Never did get over the Ratts to Malthouse move though.

Lazza

Nor did my wife .. she refused to support Carlton whilst Malthouse was there … though that might be more to do with the fact she had the hots for Joel Selwood… I told her that Lyon was in the mix … she said that she would be it … she will file for divorce from Carlton this time around …

DF Swans

Hey fellas would appreciate some thoughts on a trade offer I received in draft. Coniglio & Oliver for Macrae and Hurn – am I crazy to consider it?

Cheers!

silversovereign

Hurn is out next week.

Derek

i would counter the offer with just Cogs for Hurn.

Not much between Oliver and Macrae.

Hurn is better value than Cogs because he is a top 6 defender. Be prepared to pay a premium for them in draft.

Derek

Do you have Cogs and Oliver?

DF Swans

Nah I’ve got Macrae and Hurn! Haven’t been able to watch Jmac a lot recently but caught the Eagles game, seems to be in and out of the guts at the moment

Derek

Hurn is more valuable in draft than Cogs.

I might think about Hurn for Macrae, but don’t think they would go for that.

Derek

If you trade out Hurn and get Cogs (assume Oliver and McCrae are like for like), say they score the same, but your D6 comes on field and your M7 goes to your bench. Usually your D6 is a lot worse than your M7, that is where you lose the points.

DF Swans

Think you might be right, Jonas at D6 and Brayshaw/Steele at M7. Had a frustrating week and a little filthy at myself for drafting Macrae over Grundy, think I’ll hold!

Really appreciate the advice, cheers!

Derek

Grundy went #1 in all my drafts

Defying_Madness

If I plan to bring in Ryan/ Sicily as my Whitfield replacement would it be smarter to pull the trigger this week if I am good for the bye this week? Gives me an extra trade to use next week which is pretty helpful for upgrades and avoiding donuts.

Swans2012

Makes sense to me

silversovereign

I did that with Bewley last week. Far riskier with rookies but a good strategy if you need to cover injuries going into the byes.

Brn

Looks to be really good JS, but there is still a considerable risk in expecting him to play all byes

Brn

How many trades do you have?
Im not sure hayes is worth a trade as you would only make $75k ish

JR_Damo

I disagree, Brn. I have a feeling he'll be one of the unlucky ones for when Stephen Hill and Harley Bennell returns.

The Ranger

The lack of decent rookies options at the moment is a killer…I usually do three down or at least two down and one up the first week of the byes with the aim of then doing three further upgrades and a luxury corrective over the next two rounds.
Gonna struggle to find three downgrade options.

MAD MIKE

Big Move in the making.

This week trade out Balta and Setterfiled and bring in Gardener and Ham.

Next week trade out Rozee, Hore, Clark and bring in Boak, Sicily and Ryan (all who have had there byes).

Left with 12 trades in the bank and only needing to upgrade Baker to reach full premium.

Thoughts Community? Feedback strongly encouraged here please ๐Ÿ™‚

Lazza

Define Premium? To have 18 premo's in your team at this stage of the year would be an outstanding effort.

MAD MIKE

LLOYD, HOULI, CRISP, SMITH, HORE, CLARK – BENCH ANSWERTH, BURGESS

KELLY, FYFE, SLOANE, CRIPPS, CONIGLIO, ROCKLIFF, SIDEBOTTOM, BRAYSHAW – BENCH SCOTT, HATLEY, BEWLEY

GRUNDY, GAWN – BENCH CLARKE

KELLY, DANGERFIELD, CAMERON, WESTHOFF, ROZEE, BAKER – BENCH BALTA, SETTERFIELD

JMor

Great effort, I'd be upgrading Smith nonetheless to maybe someone like T.Stewart after his R13 bye, plenty of trades you should be looking at getting rid of under performing Rocky/Sidebottom/Brayshaw to a uber premium.

MAD MIKE

Yeah I will look at upgrading the under performers once I hit full premium. Westhoff and Brayshaw and Smith first go go. Like the Stewart call, pretty consistent and solid down back.

Lazza

I count 13… None of Smith, Rockliff, Sidebottom, Brayshaw or Westhoff could be considered premos,

NoLanguage96

Westhoff and Brayshaw aren't premiums

MAD MIKE

You need some PODs we will have to see I guess. You would still expect them to score better than rookies.

Lazza

The upside MM is that any of your 'PODs' can go big .. fingers crossed… only takes 3 of them to get you to a mega score. Good luck..

Derek

Well played. That is good.

Is Ham playing?

MAD MIKE

Playing good in the 2's but cant rely on him to play.

Thinking of bringing in Robbie Gray as a Mid/For bench loophole?

Shake_n_bake

Hurn out hurts

The unsullied

If Rotham comes in for Hurn this week would he be a viable trade or does job security rule him out?

FlusteredWombat

This is going to be a rough week indeed

Brn

J/s ruled rotham out.

FlusteredWombat

Forgetting byes for a hit second, should I ultimately aim for T. Kelly or Dunkley in my FWD line?

JohnDJ59

Both.

Brn

Thats a tough one. Kelly first but if dunkley keeps playing like this he is a clear top 3 fwd.

COREYSC

Trade Whitfield to
Laird? or Ryan?

Blue

Laird for me

GloryDays94

Alright Guys, I am a mess atm, absolutely no idea what to do over the byes and injuries are killing my team!

Hurn, Whitfield, Laird, Williams, Smith, Hore (Answerth, Burgess)

Cripps, MacRae, Fyfe, Treloar, M.Crouch, Steele, Walsh, Duursma (Baker, Scott, Bewley)

Gawn, Goldy (Scott)

Dangerfield, Boak, Heeney, Kelly, Dunkley, Setterfield (Corbett, Young)

15 trades left….. 54k in the bank

Steve

It's not panic time.

Are you playing for League wins or overall Rank?
I'm in a similar position and playing for Leagues only, will only have 16 or 17 on field depending on injuries.
Chances are I am up against someone in my league in a similar position, so makes us roughly even.
I am already sitting in the top 4 of most of my leagues so happy to take a doughnut rather than waste a trade.
I'm not trading this week but looking to trade all 6 over the next two weeks to bring in more keepers.

Just my situation and not making any wild trades.

Streaker

Whitfield to either T Stewart or L Ryan and bank some cash then upgrade Steele.

GloryDays94

Even with 15 trades left? Doing both of those won't leave me with many after I upgrade the rookies I still have on field

Brn

Not too many upgrades left for you mate. If you are playing for rank go for it and hope you come out with 5 or so trades remaining and can hold on. Otherwise assess your goals

Dan

Who would you trade in for Whitfield out of: Sicily or Ryan?

KSinny

Sicily for Consistency, Ryan for Ceiling

JR_Damo

Hey guys just want to say thanks for listening to the podcast! Apologies for the delay in responses on my behalf, we had technical issues and had to talk to each other over the phone so sometimes it was hard to each other, and it meant that most if not all of my responses were delayed somewhat as a result.

We will be better next week, and good luck for the byes!

Libba

No need to apologise Damo! Always a great podcast to listen to

Brn

You do a great job and supply the most quality podcast on a topic some of us are so very passionate about. Ranked in the top 100, and have finished top 20 overall before too. Your insights are appreciated.

NoLanguage96

Whitfield to Houli – I'm not thinking about it too heavily I'm just gonna pull the trigger on the bloke – he's racking them up like they are going out of fashion. Leaves me with this team…

B – Houli, WIlliams, Laird, Sicily, Salem, Smith (Answerth, Lockhart)
M – Neale, Macrae, Cripps, Oliver, M Crouch, Libba, Stack, Duursma (Atkins, Scott, Hayes)
R – Gawn, Goldy (Sweet)
F – Kelly, Danger, Marshall, Heeney, Baker, Moore (Setterfield, Young)

16 trades, 30k bank

Thinking of going Libba to Cunnington and Moore up to Walters but need some rookies to downgrade to (Dylan Clarke etc). Any feedback or thoughts would be great community!

Hope you're all ready for the byes xo

TommyC99

Hey lads, so have to offload whitfield this week. I still don't have Lloyd so that would have been the ideal switch but with only 15 playing next week i dont think its an option (haven't included hayes or ROB but have included Burgess and young even though they are a good chance of missing).

Do i trade in someone with this bye ie Sicily or Ryan which leaves me with 18 this week but i'll be at 16 players playing before i bring in the likes of bewley and Bont next week? or do i trade in someone who has the round 14 bye i.e cogs, Houli, Dusty? Feel like only 18 this week is quite light on but long term i see sicily and Ryan being better picks

Ja191

I’d go sic and you may want to go early on the likes of a Bewely/gardner eg this week to give you more trades next week if needed

Brn

Second going early, probably on Bewley. He is ready built so its now or never for his afl career – they will want games into him.

Moreover, Ryan is the best choice if your backline is in need of a gamble. With his ceiling he could easily have a purple patch run of 130+ scores. Sicily will consistently average the ton for you, and is the choice I have gone for.
How lucky do you feel?

Brn

And yes 18 on field this week is good enough considering the premium outs. Whitfield to sicily, ryan or laird (?) would be my move

GloryDays94

Only this week. Should be back round 14 after the eagles bye

Brn

Mitch Duncan so underrated in comparison to Dangerfield.
Gets the job done and have had him all year. Where's his fishing show?

Holty01

If Sloane doesn’t play this week I’m very tempted to trade him out. Last time the Crows said someone is 50/50 to play they ended up missing 3 weeks and might even miss this week again. But the scariest thing is the rd14 bye which I would think if Sloane doesn’t play, there is a fair chance he will miss next week as well which means we don’t see him until rd15. It could be a long wait๐Ÿค”

TOPHAWK1

Hi Holty. I think you need to make some moves mate IMO. (Not that my advice counts for much with my mediocre ranking). However, if I was ranked 27th, you have to go all out and play very aggressively in order to push for the $50K. You have Whitfield and Sloane. Both need to be punted this week. Get it over and done with. You have Hurn also which really complicates things for you. I reckon you could turn Whitfield into Sicily/Laird/Ryan or even Andrews type and Sloane needs to turn into Josh Kelly or Stephen Coniglio. It would take enormous pressure off your team as Hurn will still be sitting on your bench this week which is then backed up with his bye. I guess you could pick the premo defender based around your bye structure to help get through round 13 and 14. Whatever you choose to do Holty, hope you you make all the right moves and snaffle the cash!! Cheers mate. TH

silversovereign

Agree with TH. Whitfield has to go. Although Sicily and Ryan both have the bye this week. Laird would be a same bye swap. Or Houli is you don’t have him. Sloane is a wait and see.

Holty01

Thanks Hawk. Radio today said Sloane still a chance of playing. Not exactly sure how that is possible but will wait and see.
Those trades you mentioned are identical to what I was thinking but Laird suits my bye structure better as I have my side ready for the byes and replacing those 2 with other rd14 bye players makes sense.

BILL
Blue

I'm $5k short for a Whitfield to Lloyd trade.
Should I settle for a trade down to Laird or trade down to a second rate rookie to get Lloyd?

silversovereign

If you bring Lloyd in this week you get one game before bye, Laird you get two games.

Blue

Thanks
Good point

Facts

yeah but by the end of the byes you get 2 games from each

redherringfc

unless it’s your last defender position go for Laird and get Lloyd after his bye.

Taz

Anyone heard about M Hore at all? Please tell me he's going to be playing this week.

silversovereign

Saw him having kick to kick with Hannan outside the main group but looks ok. He’s a chance, but Melbourne likely to bring May back this week as well.

Lazza

Both Lever and May likely to return this week according to SEN 12:00 news.

silversovereign

Latest afl article re lever says Salem and Hore are set to return! ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

DavidC

Can Hore, Lever and May play in the same backline? Salem to come back in as well. Will they make that many changes?

Holty01

Hore has arguably been one of their best players so think he would be very unfortunate to be dropped.

Russty_

I'm telling you he's going to be playing this week Taz ๐Ÿ™‚

DavidC

Astbury and Ellis out for the tigers. Could be a debut on the cards for Naish.

KSinny

Anyone know what happened to Lockhart? Havnt heard anything about him.

hedski

Sore knee, not sure how bad though.

silversovereign

Grundy will play ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

Lekdog

Matt Owies to play for the Blues $102K Fwd/Mid

Brn

Any good lek?

Russty_

Have they left daisy out again…. Whose place is Owies taking?

Brn

Yeah bit concerning with stocker and setters

Russty_

No Owies anywhere on the list.

Tony

Always have the inside word Lek…

*checks teams*

Whoops…

Lekdog

A late bye round livestream tonight! We’ll cover the round 12 teams & your #supercoach trades tonight at http://twitch.tv/lekdoggames from 9pm (ish). Go there and give it a follow so you know when we are live! To all the subscribers, make sure you jump in & spam Daniel Rich emotes!

freeadvice

That competes with the front bar Lek. I admire your gumption but taking them on is like the flea fighting the rottwieler. I reckon that you'd probably double your audience if you went up against a softer target. Post front Bar is the perfect time

silversovereign

Stocker out. I don’t have him but plenty will be relying on him you’d think.

Russty_

Yeah I was SS, another warm body gone.

KSinny

Sloane not out atm so fingers crossed he isnt a late out.

Russty_

Sloane and Crouch playing..happy days but Stocker out injured.
Make that Sloane…maybe playing lol, could still be a late out apparently., for Greenwood.

TBone_9

Not as much carnage as I thought phew… still sweating on Sunday teams tomorrow though. Looks like a lot of possible ins for Melbourne too

Russty_

Hey TBone, at least Hore's named on the field, that helps me ๐Ÿ™‚
Who you sweating on mate?

TBone_9

Yeah didn’t notice that before mate! With him and Baker being named on field I feel a lot better about final team selections. Was nervous about Baker after I saw that Stocker was out, but it looks like I will be able to field 19 this week. How many you got on field this week right now Russty?

Russty_

Got 19 on mate, but Whitfield on the bench, think I need to get rid of him.

Brn

Hayes worth trading. Only 15 trades left

redherringfc

Im still holding, but only because I can’t get enough out of him to make it worthwhile.

Pretty sure next week I’ll trade out Hayes, Scott and any other spud, non-playing rookie so I can bring in 3 replicas (or god forbid, 2 new spuds and the Hoff)