PODCAST | The Season’s Hinge

The byes are coming, THE BYES ARE COMING! Batten down the hatches because we’ve only got one more week of a full roster of players to select from before the Supercoach gods come down off their perch and smite us real good.

But while it’s a time of fear, it is also a time of great opportunity. It’s what seperates the men from the boys, the pretenders from the contenders and the wheat from the chaff. Lekdog and Patch – who are pure chaff in season 2019 – provide plenty of good advice about how to magically transform yourself into wheat in this povitoal time, which is so often the hinge on which the season swings.

Speaking of hinges, Mitch Hinge is the best downgrade option for the week and the lads stick around to discuss if we should be upgrading or downgrading this week, or sidetrading, twirling towards freedom. Damo is unable to join them as he’s head is in the mid-season draft, stay tuned for that bad boy to drop tomorrow morning.

So community, are you prepared for the byes?

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  1. Patch says:

    (That music was the Star Wars classic Dual of the Fates for anyone who didn't pick up Lek's voice.

    • jimbowan says:

      I thought it was the Bridge at Khazad Dum for a second and then i pictured Darth Maul. Classic btw, very funny i was laughing out loud big time

    • Lekdog says:

      It was also slightly out of sync due to, singing without the music

  2. Holty01 says:

    Great work lads. Will be keen to hear the pod tomorrow

  3. Jonafhen says:

    Preemptatentatively gone;

    Scrimshaw > Hinge
    BroSmith > Whitfield or Lloyd


    • Patch says:

      I'd be holding Brodie until his bye, Jono. Just me personally though

    • Russty_ says:

      Not sure that's a word, or is it kinda like Supercalifragilistic…expialodocious?…
      Anyways, yeah if you have a decent amount of trades left getting in Whitfield this week would be a good thing. (they do have the same bye though)
      Just gotta hope Hinge isn't another Young I guess.

      • PizzaSafety says:

        Don't think you guys are completely right with this bye business.

        You should try to get more guys with later byes to respond to carnage if it comes at the start of the byes and also because you can more easily get more rookies playing in the later byes. BUT the idea you get 3 weeks worth of scoring compared to 2 from a R14 bye player is false, you get three games either way from either player between rounds 11-14 and whether you can pick a player with whatever bye depends on your bye structure and your rookie situation.

        Trade in players after their bye when the byes begin and try to get players with later byes because you'll get more rookies playing but you don't get an extra week of scoring from a R14 bye player. They will play rounds 11, 12 and 13, a R13 bye player will play rounds 11, 12 and 14. The fact they play an extra game before their bye is irrelevant when trading at this stage (between a R13 & R14 player), you should pick players who have had their byes when the byes start and trade now according to your strukcha.

        • Derek says:

          Trade Hore to Sicily round 13 as an example.

          Hore has to go, Sicily has to come in.

          Hore plays rounds 11 & 12, out he goes for about $440k, in comes Sicily for about $485k and plays rounds 13 & 14.

          • PizzaSafety says:

            Exactly what I'm gonna do, Hore for Luke Ryan. I was referring to what was said in the pod not what he’s doing here, Hold B Smith to his bye and trade him then if you wanna flick him. I was referring to somebody choosing between Jake Lloyd and a Lachie Whitfield.

  4. TommyC99 says:

    Got a bit of a dilemma this week. I'm keen on Cameron so looking at bringing him in before he feasts on the suns. So i need to paint the fence to make it happen. The only fatten cows i have are Walsh, Hore, Duursma, Scrim, Atkins, Petrucelle and Parker. I am currently looking at 18 players fielded round 13, but that includes Hayes Stocker, Young and Burgess who are either not playing or have dodgy JS. Scrimshaw is the obvious straight swap with Hinge but that gets rid of a precious round 13 bye player who has good JS.
    I am currently looking at this trades

    Scrim – Hinge
    Pet – Cameron

    Would you guys just bite the bullet and trade scrim? Or would you trade out an Atkins instead despite a lowish BE?

    • Russty_ says:

      Hey Tommy not sure if Hayes, Young or Burgess will be playing round 13.
      Maybe get Hinge this week and hold off on the other.

    • Trent says:

      Trade Hinge for whoever of Young or Burgess is not named. You have Duursma, you could move him to midfield after trading Hayes and get Hinge that way. Cameron is not a top 6 forward at seasons end. Petruccelle is a sell to any forward who is top 6, but watch the BE as most have high BE's this week. If Dangerfield not in your team, his BE is 66 if named and he pays 12 but not 13. Hayes and Young need to go if not named and then Petru'e. Double downgrade is a good option this week also. So Petru to Begley. Plays 13 .

      • TommyC99 says:

        Hey Mate, thanks for the response, but are you sure Cameron is not a top 6 forward? I think he stays in and around the mark until the last month in which he then plays Sydney, Hawthorn, Dogs and Suns. Think he comes home real strong during supercoach finals. With the news of Williams being out and Crouch being in doubt chances are i might not have a choice.

  5. Brn says:

    Crouch and Danger looking likely this week??

    Boak looking like he will bottom out just in time to pick up after his bye

  6. FeverVFX says:

    Should I start worrying only having 14 trades left if I do 2 trades this week?

    • The Ranger says:

      Yes if you're playing for leagues. If ya playing for rank then just do whatever you need to do and pray for some luck.
      It's good to have at least 8 after the byes if playing for leagues.

    • Robbombers says:

      You’re farked

    • Lazza says:

      Depend how many premos you have .. ya gotta stop drinking reds on Friday arvo FVFX.. 🙂

  7. FeverVFX says:

    Held onto Alex Witherden for too long and has cost me in a dud pick. With a score of 45 on the weekend and dropped to 400k is it worth holding him or waiting till after the bye rounds?

    • Streaker says:

      Hold unfortunately you don't have many trades left, believe me you will need them later on when the injury carnage starts.

    • The Ranger says:

      He's close to being dumped in the the Never Again bin for me Fever.
      Second year running I've picked him hoping for a break out year and for the second year running he's been very underwhelming.
      Maybe his point scoring will increase once Hodge retires, maybe not.
      Just gotta hold now unfortunately and then luxury trade him after the byes if the opportunity arises.

  8. CalebCripps922 says:

    Is Bines to Fort a bad move?

  9. Libba says:

    Do you guys think Jeremy Cameron will be a top 10 forward? He historically scores well against the suns and has got them this week and his breakeven is low

    • redherringfc says:

      I do, but Trent, above, seems to think he won’t be top 6.

      Off the top of my head, I’d put these guys as my top 6 from here on.

      Kelly, Dunkley, Danger, Hawkins, Boak and Cameron.

      I know a lot will steer clear of Hawkins and Cameron, but I think they’ll both go better than Heeney, Daniel, etc. I wouldn’t be surprised if both end up better than Danger (in terms of total points from here on)

      • Ross says:

        Why not Mundy? What makes you think that he'll tumble from #1 to less than #6?

        • redherringfc says:

          I did say “from here on”.

          He probably will still be there about, but I’m not putting my trust in him ( or Ross Lyon)

      • TommyC99 says:

        I also do. If you look at his remaining draw closely, i see some big performances happening, especially during supercoach finals. He's more consistent than the regular key forward (could just be coincidence) and playing for a good club helps his cause too. Obviously bringing in a key forward presents risk but he can win league matches on his own if he keeps this up. Holty mentioned he has a nagging shoulder issue which isnt ideal. I'm seriously considering.

      • Trent says:

        Top 6 at the moment are, Boak, Kelly, Mundy, Danger, Dunkley, Daniel. Cameron like most key fwd likely to average between 90-98 with score of 130 mixed with 70. Hawkins is a smokey at 2.4 % and two below him at 9 and 10, Walters and Marshall are below 10%

  10. sam says:

    Thoughts on Robbie Gray at 392k
    if i try downgard upgrade with petrucelle and lockhart, then i can only afford a 457k premo, so wondering wether gray is good option

    • dontblushbaby says:

      He has the round 12 bye, I will be looking at him after that

      • Derek says:

        Robbie will be a great F7/M9 for the SC finals. Port have great draw over last month, he will step up when whips are cracking. Port play early in finals good to loop.

        Too early to get him now, long season

    • TommyC99 says:

      Agree with Derek, great loophole option late, but dont want to be relying on him onfield this early

  11. KSinny says:

    Hey community thinking of going Williams to J.Kelly via Duursma and Petrucelle to Hinge via Burgess.
    This is probably the only chance I have to get Kelly in so think I've gotta take it (also doesnt have round 13 bye) and only leaves me with one more upgrade in the Midfield for Neale once he's bottomed out.
    Leaves me with 16 trades and $139k going into the byes.

  12. The Bont says:

    Thoughts on Oscar Baker, played the two toughest teams and averaged 49. Could be averaging 70 against the rest of the comp

    • Hero says:

      He’ll probably get dropped this week, Melbourne have to make room for 6 premos returning from injury. Lockhart will go too.

  13. GloryDays94 says:

    Current Team:

    Hurn, Laird, Williams, Smith, Hore, Duursma (Answerth, Burgess)

    Cripps, Fyfe, MacRae, Treloar, M.Crouch, Walsh, Gibbons (Bewley, Scott, Hayes)

    Gawn, Goldy (Sweet)

    Kelly, Boak, Dangerfield, Dunkley, Heeney, Corbett (Young, Setterfield)

    17 trades and 274k

    Am thinking of
    Gibbons to Hinge via Duursma swing
    Hayes to Mundy via Setterfield swing

    Opens up swings through DEF and MID during the byes and finishes my FWD/Gets Corbett off field. Only leaves me with 22k though..

    Only problem Is I'm not sure where I get my money from during the byes for upgrades.

    Suggestions and advice welcomed 👍 Cheers

    • redherringfc says:

      3 trades each week in the byes.

      During the byes you’ll be able to go 2 down, 1 up to get some cash.

    • Derek says:

      You are missing a mid.

      Crazy to get Mundy. $588k is a lot of dollars, he has a BE of 117, but after this week the 141 drops out so his BE will be over 150ish,

      Plus he has a round 12 bye, get him this week and he has a rest the next.

      Save the cash for elsewhere

    • TOPHAWK1 says:

      Hi GD. You have a few challenges there mate. Trade one is fine. Resets the Answerth /Duursma swingset. Gibbons can go and Hinge is the best bubble boy on offer this week. Builds the warchest to $411K. You need to generate fast cash. The second trade I do not like. Your forward line is solid whilst your back line has Williams on your bench another week. For mine, you need Whitfield down back for Williams. Or you need to sacrifice your def/mid swingset, leave Williams on the bench and punt Duursma for Josh Kelly before he becomes totally unaffordable. Hayes at $201K will not get you up to Kelly at $645K. Duursma will. You need a gun either down back or in your midfield mate. Just my take. Good luck mate. TH.

      • GloryDays94 says:

        Thanks TopHawk. Honestly I have no idea what to do anymore other than the Gibbons to Hinge trade. I don't have much cash gen so it has ruined me Tbh

        • TOPHAWK1 says:

          Yes mate. I hear ya. For what it is worth, I decided to trade in Young last week. Bad bad move. He will get dropped this week and become an instant loop hole Patsy alongside Bines. I guess the best thing to do is wait for teams to drop on Thursday night. You might get lucky with someone like Hately getting named. Then you can grab two bubble boys and your team is generating cash again, and building the warchest at the same time. If it falls your way, you will then have huge cash available for up grades during the byes. Good luck son!!

    • Lazza says:

      You’ve only got 7 MIDs listed .. who is the 8th on field?

      • GloryDays94 says:

        Steele mate. I'm leaning towards Lloyd or Whitfield in this week even though it leaves me with only around 50k left

    • ChubbyMcChubby says:

      How do you do Gibbons to Hinge via Duurrsma swing? Hinge Def, Gibbons Mid and only Duursma dual

      • Russty_ says:

        When you hit the trade button on Gibbons, wait and you'll see an 'S' on Duursma in the backline, that means you can sub him for the intended trade and send him to the midfield, therefore allowing you to trade in a backman.
        It's Supercoach 101 mate, you need to know these things otherwise you'll be at a disadvantage.
        Also works on other lines including fwd, mid and rucks.

  14. Shake_n_bake says:

    Williams out again this week

  15. TommyC99 says:

    With Williams already being ruled out and Crouch and Danger still in doubt, should we be trading one of Williams or crouch if both are to miss. Not sure we can afford another 2-3 premos on the bench again, but at the same time, trades are precious and im already down to 19 with the intention of using 2 this week.

    • Ross says:

      Williams might be given a long rest and bought back after the bye. I can't decide whether to dump or carry.

      Giants website says "the medical staff are optimistic he’ll be available to fly to Adelaide in round 12."

      Optimistic isn't confident and if he's doubtful for round 12 surely they'll give him 13 and the bye as well?

    • TOPHAWK1 says:

      I agree Tommy. I have M Crouch, Danger, and Williams all on the bench. One is going this week. Too much cash just sitting idle. I reckon Danger will be back. If Williams and M Crouch both miss, my gut tells me Williams has to go. To be ruled out so early in the week and with GWS paying Gold Coast at home this week tells me he aint right. I would not be surprised if he does not come back until after the byes. I don't have Whitfield so switching Williams to Whitfield makes 100% sense. Whitfield is at rock bottom price with a BE of 46 and he will destroy the Suns. It means next week you could well pay an extra $40K to get him. Cheers Tommy.

      • TommyC99 says:

        Spot on TH. Easy swap to Sicily for me if i trade Williams. Scrimshaw also being out for 4-6 might mean Williams survives for mine. At this stage im deciding which 2 to trade out from Scrim, Williams and Petrucelle

    • Derek says:

      Holty is sitting back with a grin the size of Stewart’s after he took that hanger over Libba. Double so if Crouch misses another week.

      • TOPHAWK1 says:

        Holty will be loving it!! If M Crouch misses again TH will be be most unhappy. A corked hip……more like a torn thigh muscle the way it is going…..

        • Derek says:

          He’s sitting back, having a just a moment to congratulate himself I would think.

        • Beezneez says:

          Adelaide news saying he's still doubtful. Apparently an abdominal strain affecting his bung hip.

  16. Shake_n_bake says:

    Skrimshaw out 4 to 6 weeks

  17. Shake_n_bake says:

    Ryan Gardner will play this week for dogs

  18. Dash says:

    150K – 20 Trades Seeking your trade thoughts which may suit my byes.

    Laird, Sicily, Whitfield, Duursma, Clark, Answerth, (Burgess, Marsh)
    Macrae, Cripps, Fyfe, Neale, Libba, Walsh, Gibbons, Atkins, (Hayes, Scott, Setterfield)
    Gawn, Grundy, (Bines)
    Heeney, Boak, T Kelly, Dunkley, Danger, Balta (Parker, Corbett)

    • TOPHAWK1 says:

      Hi Dash. You need to cull 1-2 rooks in that midfield this week and pronto. After Walsh, any of those dudes have either dodgy JS or no JS at all. You need an uber midfield premo desperately. You could punt Duursma for Hinge (Bubble rook) to boost the warchest to $364K. Then you can say good bye to Tom Atkins and say hello to Josh Kelly. Kelly has the round 14 bye, playing Gold Coast this week and by the looks of it, he is only going to get more expensive mate. Good luck. TH

  19. Unsullied says:

    Any love for Taranto as end of year top 10 mid, never gets the De Boer tag three round average 126 five round average of 122, ppm equal first in the league, low percentage ownership round 14 bye. Currently sitting 9th best mid.

  20. sam says:

    TEAM at the moment with 40k
    lloyd, whitfield, laird, smith, hore ,lockhart with answerth and young on bench
    neale, fyfe, macrae, cripps, gaff, crouch, coniglio and duursma with stocker bewly and scott on becnh
    gawn grundy with loophole on becnh
    danger, heeny, kelly, worpel, baker, balta with setterfield and petrcuele on bench


  21. Libba says:

    Bad news for people with Matt crouch… High possibility he'll miss this week

    • hedski says:


    • Holty01 says:

      Hi Libba. Where u hear this?

      • Libba says:

        I saw it on twitter aflratings

        “He’s regained his running capabilities.. However, it’s the more ballistic, dynamic movements that are the concerns at the moment.." GM of High Performance Matt Hass

        I'm hoping he plays though

    • TOPHAWK1 says:

      Bloody marvellous…….source?

      • Derek says:

        Hey TH did you see my trade offer in draft?

        • TOPHAWK1 says:

          I will go and check it out mate.

        • TOPHAWK1 says:

          You offering me Alex Witherden for Callum Mills? Hahahahahahaha I think I will pass mate. Millsy is running into form and Witho is dropping off in form. However, I will make you an offer shortly. Watch this space. Cheers mate. TH

          • Derek says:

            i was hoping you didn't notice Mills starting to play well 😉

            McVeigh back this week might change things around in the swans defense

      • Libba says:

        Replied on Holty's comment above

      • Beezneez says:

        Adelaide news saying he's doubtful. Abdominal strain affecting his dodgy hip.

    • TommyC99 says:

      I heard on SEN he is still in doubt. Not a great sign that the crows came out and said Lynch and Mackay will be fit and didn't mention Crouch. Real frustrating hes gone from being a late ish out 2 weeks ago to a big chances he misses 3 weeks in a row.

    • Rocksta_ says:

      If Matt Crouch misses again this week, I give up! The last 2 weeks have destroyed my rank this season. With Williams still out and Rocky not a certainty as well, best I just go and find something else to do! And that’s assuming Danger is a definite in this week.

    • TommyC99 says:

      Trained well today and is set for a return at this stage

  22. Sam_01 says:

    Should I bring Neale in before he plays carlton or wait till his bye is done? Could go hugggee

  23. TommyC99 says:

    So im tossing up which 2 trades to make this week. 3 players on the chopping block are Williams, Scrimshaw and Petrucelle. If Danger is still out i have no choice but to hold Pet but i'd like to trade him. Which 2 should i trade out? Scrim – Hinge seems like a no brainer.

    Williams – Sicily (282k in the bank)
    Petrucelle – Cameron (80k in the bank

    What do we reckon fellas? I could easily just not do the second trade, and be left with 280k in the bank heading into the byes. Would love some feedback!

  24. TelescopicCox says:

    20 trades and $80k bank. What to do if Crouch misses:

    B – Whitfield, Lloyd, Crisp, Williams*, Hore, Wilkie (Burgess, Lockhart)
    M – Cripps, Kelly, Fyfe, Treloar, Macrae, M.Crouch*, Rocky, Duursma (Answerth, Hayes, Scott)
    R – Gawn. Grundy (Bines)
    F – T.Kelly, Danger, Heeney, Moore, Goat AKA Balta, Petruccelle (Setterfield, Young)

    Priority is getting a FWD premo, so looking at Lockhart & Petch to Hinge & Daniel/Cameron (only have $480k)
    However, Rocky & Crouch are big question marks

    • GloryDays94 says:

      Lockhart to Hinge is the obvious one that should be locked in. Keep Moore to go to Boak after his Bye. Petch to Cameron is a good move and I have Crouch so just hold and cover. He usually has a big end of the year which will be handy

      • TelescopicCox says:

        I'm liking the look of Petch to Jezza, and will probably stick to that. All will depend on team selections and avoiding carnage

      • I am thinking not Glory I would keep Locky and dump Scott .Wouldn't surprise me to see Locky named. Gartlett plays a similar role as does Spargo and both were worse plus Goody is keen on Locky , me too and he has that DPP whether playing or not NDD

    • Trent says:

      Lockhart to Hinge. Keep Crouch and let Duursma take the field. Sell Setterfield for the player you think will be top 6, Daniel can be bought at any time because he is consistent and does not go up in value. Cameron a chance or maybe Walters

  25. Jacko says:

    Did Matt De Boer tag anyone last week in the melbourne side? If so who?

  26. Shake_n_bake says:

    Danger to play this week

    • hedski says:

      Good. Hoping against hope that Crouch does too.
      Thoughts on Williams Shake, is a "maybe" to get up against Adelaide round 12?
      Not sure I'm confident on that, thinking of moving him to Whitfield before he gets out of reach and possibly bringing Williams back after the byes when/if he drops towards $450k.
      Would leave me with only 15 trades and 4 more upgrades.

      • Shake_n_bake says:

        Getting low on trades Hedski. You need warm bodies coming into the buy rds. As much as you think you’ll have players playing in certain weeks it doesn’t go that way. Teams will be adding up who the have but you can always count on some players they thought will play wont. So just watch your trades. If you just making the one move this week go for it also remember it could be 100pt difference to whom you would play. That could mean league wins.

  27. Johnny says:

    If Matt Crouch this week isn't named would it be a smart move to trade him to Sloane, both that lovely round 14 bye and Sloane looks to be the goods, also Sloane will be hard to get soon if he continues up his form as has a low BE.

    However, Sloane in 2 weeks plays GWS. Well De Boer go to him that week and dramatically quell his influence or is it worth picking Sloane up?

    Would love your thoughts community!!

    • Rick says:

      I would not pick Sloane until after De Bore game. His price might come back down as a result of that game anyway.

    • COREYSC says:

      Sloane is scoring huge cause Matt Crouch isn't in the side

      • Derek says:

        Brad has got the bump with Matt out, plus Gibbs and Greenland

        Sloane has been playing forward a lot, doesn’t get much of a tag there

  28. Ja191 says:

    Who has the better chance of coming back hayes or bailey Scott

    • Funkhouser says:

      That's the question but hard to answer, I got both and will need to get rid of all non players apart from bines before the byes get started. I feel Hayes is a better chance of playing but that is only a gut feeling, hopefully one of them gets named this week.

    • TommyC99 says:

      Scott for mine although i hope i'm wrong

  29. COREYSC says:

    Hi Community I'm looking for some advice on my team I'm looking at potentialy a downgrade for Hinge and swing Burgess forward and remove Paker leaves me with 21 trades to sit on my trades until the byes!

    Lloyd, Whitifeld, Z.Williams, B.Smith, Hore, Clark (Answerth, Burgess)
    J.Kelly, Neale, Fyfe, Macrae, Cripps, M.Crouch, B.Crouch, Walsh (Hayes, Stocker, Scott)
    Grundy, Gawn (Bines)
    T.Kelly, Dunkley, Dangerfield, Heeney, Parker, Setterfield (Corbett, Young)

    My cash generation is an issue have some really slow burn rookies thats why even Fort has come into my consideration as a quick cash grab for Setterfield as well maybe? I have 22 Trades Left and 10K in the Bank

    • Trent says:

      Your lowest on ground will be Parker or Clark, so a trade to put one of those on the bench is ideal. Maybe Hayes out for Baker makes about 80k. The Setterfield for Begley gives you another 80K and therefore allows for an upgrade next week.

    • Box says:

      21 trades left with 15 maybe more keepers…………………… sounds a bit sus to me!

      • COREYSC says:

        I made my first trade in Round 7 had a good starting lineup and was patient with B.Smith, Z.Williams and Dunkley and didn’t burn my trades been mostly downgrading every since with a couple of upgrades Fyfe in R8 J.Kelly in R9 and Whitfield last week

      • jay shak says:

        I agree, with roughly 5 rookies up to upgrade and 22 trades? i call bullshit

        • Russty_ says:

          I see potentially 8 upgrades there, he posted his team, why would he be lying?
          Most decent upgrades can't just be done with 1 trade so…..

          • Trent says:

            The issue is never how many trades you have left (unless you have been stupid). The aim is points and rank, not trades in the bank- you trade to maximize value and future points. To not trade is to waste future points.

            • Russty_ says:

              Only if you play for rank alone Trent, I don't, I play 95% Leagues and 5% rank, trades left at the end are very important to me.
              Not meaning to argue, but last year I got into the final and had 3 injuries in the last round and not enough trades to fix it.
              2 would've got me over the line.

              • Trent says:

                True, judge your strategy by your aims. I play for overall rank and so judge my initial trade strategy by what will maximize future points and cash.

          • COREYSC says:

            Cheers Russty I’ve made 3 upgrades and 5 downgraded this season so far

        • COREYSC says:

          I didn’t need to trade early on because I didn’t feel it was absolutely necessary to sideways trade any of my premiums although Dunkley tester my patience early

  30. Nozzy says:

    Any tips appreciated!
    Def: Lloyd,Whitfield,Williams,B.Smith, Hore,Lockhart: Answerth,Young
    Mid: J.Kelly, Fyfe, Macrae, Oliver,Cripps,M.Crouch,Rockliff,Walsh: Atkins,Stocker,Watson
    Ruc: Grundy Gawn: Sweet
    Fwd: T.Kelly, Dunkley, Danger,Heeney,Balta,Petrucelle: Setterfield,Young

    16 Trades- 151 k

    • COREYSC says:

      hold your trades mate spend time over the next two weeks assessing how your bye structure is shaping up and then look to use 7-8 trades in the bye rounds to maximize your score and then you'll have 8-9 trades left to get through the rest of the season

    • Trent says:

      Lockhart to Hinge and Petruccelle to Daniel if you have or a similar player in the FWD line, unless you can move Lockhart to MID and then sell him from there to upgrade a MID and then sell Petruccelle to Begley

  31. Lazza says:

    Hey NDD, I notice that Mitch Hannan is not on the Melb injury list … is he back playing in the twos?

  32. John says:

    Going to go Wilkie go Hinge, but I don’t know what to do for my second trade. 20 trades left and $234k after trading Wilkie. Need help please give me suggestions!!

    Def: Laird, Williams, Whitfield, Wilkie, Duursma, Hore EMG: Answerth, Clark

    Mid: Cripps, Treloar, Fyfe, Cogs, Macrae, B. Crouch, Stack, Stocker EMG: setterfield, Sparrow, Hayes

    Ruck: Grundy, Gawn EMG: Sweet

    Fwd: Danger, Heeney, Dunkley, Boak, Kelly, Corbett EMG: Young, Schultz

    • Brn says:

      Stack should give you about 550k, and there's a few mid premos at that price. However, yur problem would be that you are missing a lot of the ultra premo mids, which you will really need at some stage. Best find some more cash with a double downgrade, or else you are stuck with a pod like pendles, zorko, or coniglio type. Other choice is upgrade to a good defender via ainsworth. Heaps of cheap prem defenders around 520k – i like sicily even though he will drop a bit more $. Good luck

    • silversovereign says:

      Shift duursma into the guts for setterfield and bring in hinge down back. Shift Dunkley into the guts for Hayes and get the best forward you can, maybe Cameron, if that works for your bye structure. Gets rid of two non playing rookies and significantly improves your mids.

      • John says:

        I do like that idea but personally I don't want to have Dunkley stuck in my midfield :/

        • John says:

          I also only end up with $370k

          • silversovereign says:

            Oh I thought you already had $234k. Then I would trade Williams down to hinge and switch any dpp forward into the mid for setterfield. Why would Dunkley get stuck? There will be an opportunity to trade out one of your fwd rookies.

            • John says:

              Yeah that's after trading Wilkie out, and yes that it true about Dunkley. And you don't think it's worth holding Williams?

              • silversovereign says:

                I traded him last week to Whitfield for an extra $50k. Total no brainer. Williams has done his job and made good money but is injury prone and a bit inconsistent. There was speculation he wouldn’t even miss a week but now it’s two and could be more. Can’t afford to have too many non playing players heading into the byes.

  33. Stacky23 says:

    20 Trades and 27k
    Def: Hurn Whitfield Crisp Williams Hore Duursma (Answerth,Clark)

    Mid: Kelly Cripps Macrae Yeo Crouch Cogs Libba Stack (Haye,Stocker,Setters)

    Ruc: Gawn Grundy (O'Brien)

    Fwd: Kelly Daniel Danger Heeney Balta Parker (Burgess, Young)

    Really stumped on what trades to do this week with Crouch and Williams out
    Thinking O'Brien to Bines and Parker to Dunkley or Clark to a mid under 590k
    Cameron also an option at a cheaper price but dont know if i can bring myself to trust a key fwd

  34. James says:

    Can't decide out of Lloyd, Hurn or Ryan. Leaning towards Lloyd or Ryan but don't know which suits the byes better.

  35. sammy says:

    Is going Goldy to Gawn a bad idea.

    • Dan says:

      I need to make the same trade, but am hoping to do it after Gawn's bye (round 13) and before Goldy's bye (round 14). Are you able to hold out until then?

    • Derek says:

      the timing would be perfect to do that move after round 13.

      Gawn has his bye in round 13 and Goldy has his bye in round 14.

      Couldn't have asked for it any better.

      Also, Gawn has Grundy round 12, not missing a big score there, where Goldy has Suns.

      Goldy has a lower BE and might make a bit more cash than Gawn anyway

      • Flaccid Jaff says:

        Agreed, it's worth holding out even if it costs you money, but in this case it should actually make you money

    • Box says:

      Got to be done……………

      • Russty_ says:

        Not yet really though, if Goldy keeps going well for a few more rounds, it shouldn't hurt too much to wait until after round 13.

    • Steeeve says:

      Great idea, best done before round 1

  36. TommyC99 says:

    Hold Williams and go ahead with my trade plans of dumping Petrucelle or hold Pet and sideways trade Williams?

  37. Flaccid Jaff says:

    Planning on getting Hinge and Whitfield, but should i be getting oscar baker instead of Lachie?
    Don't know if many other rookies are gonna be coming up soon

  38. Russty_ says:

    Keep Moore if he plays or turf him for Whitfield this week?

    • Libba says:

      Whitfield could go huge against the sun's

    • Holty01 says:

      I’m holding Moore but still may bring in Whitfield so cant really answer this. But I agree Whitfield is a must and if trading Moore is the only way to get him then go for it

      • Russty_ says:

        Hi Holty…The Holt, my team just looks better without Moore in there, (mr 79)…mr dodgy ankle injury prone mofo…lol.
        Kinda feels right getting Whitfield in now before he rises 30 to 40 grand this week, which he will.
        Did ROB to Hinge as well, so doing both of those still leaves me with some decent cash for next week.

        Hoping I did the right thing.

        • Holty01 says:

          Seems good mate. The ROB to Hinge trade is ideal. I just like holding Moore for the time being. I think he will be handy for me these next few weeks if he plays

    • Rocksta_ says:

      With a BE of 46, best you get Whitfield in this week Russty. He’ll cost around $620K in 2 weeks I reckon. That’s why I too brought him in this week. Round 14 bye is also user friendly.

  39. Dash says:

    In terms of priority who needs to go and is good for byes. If you had to order them.
    Will get Hinge in this week I reckon, maybe O Baker.
    Duursma, Gibbons, Parker, Atkins, Hayes, Scott, Burgess

    • Russty_ says:

      Hey Dash, reckon you need to offload your weakest links first, those would be guys not getting a game first, and those scoring lowest second.
      At the end you'll need every warm body, and just the one patsy non scoring loophole.

  40. Russty_ says:

    Hey Derek, I accepted your Yeo for Siciflog trade, had to decline the other one, Tophawks I think, Dahlhaus for Andrews. (sorry mate)
    Johndj (Black Flag)…I offered Bellchambers for Gunston mate, in Draft League, you look like you need a decent Ruck in your side.
    Let me know what you decide, cheers.

    • Derek says:

      Thanks Russty.

      I picked up Yeo in a trade for Chad earlier in year, so was well ahead on that trade. Yeo been good but my defence needs serious help.

      • Russty_ says:

        Happy to help mate, it's actually a really good 50-50 trade for me, I have Savage as backup for the Sicily loss so I'm very happy, cheers mate.

    • Derek says:

      TBC isn’t much better than Kruzer or Hoff

    • JohnDJ59 says:

      Hi Russty, I accepted your offer. I did have McEvoy to start with, but when he was injured I had to put English on the field and traded out McEvoy for Fort as cover.

  41. Sam_01 says:

    Are Neale/Fyfe absolute must haves? Just thinking instead of Neale I could just grab bont and Fyfe after their first bye to finnish up my mid just thinking cash is very tight this year?

    • Russty_ says:

      Bont and Fyfe would be ok Sam , chances are something will happen between now and the end anyway which would allow you to get Neale.
      Neale can go pretty large though and probs won't get much cheaper after his recent Freo tag.

  42. Box says:

    Seems to me a lot of teams seem to be full of BS about how many trades they have left………………………….. 16 keepers and 20+ trades left, REALLY!

    • Russty_ says:

      Could be correct if they got lucky with initial team picks like Hurn, Whitfield, Ryan…etc and all the right rookies.
      I have about 16 keepers and less trades than that!

      • Box says:

        I just feel that there are a furfies being told, if they got that lucky they are top 100 but not saying so. I have 17 keepers with only 14 trades left and I have been lucky with all my picks so far. Call me a cynic but it just does not add up!

        • jay shak says:

          totally agree, I'm ranked 137 overall but 16 trades left and still fielding 5 rookies on field!

          • Trent says:

            agreed- I am ranked 40. Got lucky with trades and have 16 keepers but only 14 trades. It is nearly impossible to be ranked high and have lots of trades left

      • Great to see you have seen the light Russty or are you just praying maxy will join Kent. It depends on what you call keepers I realised i missed the boat and cant make full prem I would call Rocky Williams Marshall Smith and Walsh prems for league players but Holty would discard the lot NDD

        • Russty_ says:

          True mate, it depends on what you consider a keeper to be, Brodie Smith isn't I feel, It's all relative I feel, and depends who goes out injured towards the end and how many trades left and who's stepping up at the time.

    • Steeeve says:

      I have 16 keepers and 19 trades left. Not that crazy.

    • Rocksta_ says:

      I have 19 Keepers and 13 trades left, unless I reverse this weeks trades due to injury carnage. That said, I’m counting Smith, Williams and Rocky as Keepers. I think it really depends on what/whom you consider to be a keeper.
      I’d probably like to luxury trade Smith out later down the track but until I eliminate all Rookies off the field, I’m considering him as a keeper.

      • Russty_ says:

        Hey Rocksta, I guess a keeper is whoever gets you the win that week.
        Hard to define a keeper sometimes…especially towards the back end of the season when things are getting desperate.
        Chances are though, if you come up against someone who considers Whitfield more of a keeper than Williams in the end, he'll win the argument.
        Same goes for Smith really, is Laird more of a keeper than Smith?….possibly, historically…yes.

        • Rocksta_ says:

          Agreed Mate. It’s a hard one to describe. I have Whitfield, and Laird and Lloyd, but I also have Williams and Smith. Would I rather Ryan and Stewart than Williams and Smith, shit yes. One of the 2 mentioned will most likely be my last Defensive upgrade for Hore anyhow.
          In any event, it doesn’t really matter whom I consider keepers or not because due to Injury, it looks like at least 2 of my keepers, and maybe 3 will be sitting on the pine again this week. That’s the same scenario 3 weeks in a row. In hindsight, I should have traded Crouch or Williams out, but I’ve reached my quota of sideways trades already for the season and don’t want to entertain it anymore unless a player is out for an extended period.
          I will say, I heard earlier today that Hore may also be injured, and Rocky isn’t a certainty to play. If all 4 are out this weekend, I may just very well take my bat and ball and go home!

        • Good point Russty Is Hore more of a keeper than Laird ? present you would nearly say yes but foretune tellers tell us different.You will only know whos prem at the end

    • Holty01 says:

      I have 19 left. Have held firm on rookies which has worked out well for me this year. A lot of panic sets in sometimes when a rookie has a couple of bad games and straight away they get traded out.

      • Rocksta_ says:

        Great position to be in Holty. Ranked 4th Overall, off the back of a 2500 and 19 trades left is awesome planning on your behalf. We will all be cheering you home mate for the rest of the season.

    • Daz says:

      16 keepers, that not including the likes of bcrouch, bsmith. but 18 trades.

    • Derek says:

      I would have more keepers if I hadn’t traded them out. Mundy was this years Menagola.

      It comes down to what people call ‘keepers’.

      Is Williams or Gunston a ‘keeper’

    • Lazza says:

      I guess if I had zero trades left then I'd have 22 keepers, regardless of how good they are. 🙂

      As we get closer to the end of our trades, the qualification of a keeper might just drop below the level we set in R1.

      I have 16 keepers in my team , but I might only keep 14 of them .. 🙂

  43. John says:

    Trade out Cogs?

  44. Tommo09 says:

    Thoughts on my team at the moment:

    Def: Lloyd Whitfield Stewart Smith Hore Moore (Answerth Hinge)
    Mid: Neale Fyfe Cripps Gaff Bont O’Meara Heeney Walsh (Hayes Stocker Scott)
    Ruc: Grundy Gawn (Rob)
    Fwd: Kelly Danger Cameron Balta Parker Corbett (Young Setterfield)

    16 trades $284k left

    I plan on getting Boak and Ryan in after the first bye week followed by a mid and Sicily


  45. TBone_9 says:

    After playing around with a few ideas in my squad I’m likely going to lock in Hinge for Lockhart, but also saw that I have just enough to cash to lock in Walsh up to Kelly if I wanted to as well…. so tempting, but something about paying that much for a premo puts me off. My tactic has always been to pick up at around lowest price and find value, but if he stays on the park the rest of the year he’s a lock for top 5 mids in my opinion

    • Russty_ says:

      Hey Tbone, if you do it, you probably won't look back….cause Kelly is a a must I think.
      Question is, can you still do what you wanted to do next week if you didn't do what you did this week.?
      Walsh is probably honestly only an 80 average from here….much as that pains me to say.

      • TBone_9 says:

        Cheers Russty, yeah think you might be right there. Could just be better to pay up and lock in the points from now on…. gotta wait for team selections tonight though to see what that throws at us!

    • Rocksta_ says:

      It’s a hard one TBone. I traded in Kelly earlier in the week, only to reverse it and bring in Whitfield instead. The way I see it, he’s only averaging 5.5 points less(which would be much closer if you take out his injury affected score), for $90K less. That $90K saving will then allow me to bring Fyfe in after his bye, and get to full premo earlier. It also means I can hold on to one of my better rookies for a little longer and trade out a spud instead.
      Hopefully Kelly will come down in price over the next 4 weeks and I can then bring him in as my last mid upgrade.
      But shit, Kelly is going well. I reckon he’ll tear Gold Coast a new one this weekend, and with a BE of only 105, that will make it even harder to bring him in. As I said, it’s a bloody hard one!

      • Derek says:

        The only thing that worry’s me about Kelly is he missed a few games already this year, he did it last year, will he do it again? What injury did he have and is he still carrying it?

        Still a very big POD and because of his price will stay that way

  46. Cant remember who posted about Hore having his calf iced but could be the press got it wrong Was at training and Petty had his calf worked on by the physios. Was told it was iced so wrong player i suspect NDD

    • Peggi says:

      have a look at Angus Brayshaw's instagram story. Hore did have ice on his calf but it seems like it was nothing serious and the players were mucking around wrapping plastic around his leg

  47. BILL says:

    press getting it wrong, theres a surprise <img src="https://s04.flagcounter.com/mini/Jkzv/bg_FFFFFF/txt_DEDEDE/border_FFFFFF/flags_0/&quot; width="1"/>

  48. Browncow says:

    Thanks NDD – good intel. Hopefully that is all it is. Lever didn’t mention anything in his interview yesterday. He seems a pretty composed player 8 or 9 games in. Not to mention our Moore / Williams affected defences.

  49. Shake_n_bake says:

    Cotchin back this week

  50. Northernsoul74 says:

    Ryan Gardner has been given DPP, def/fwd.

  51. JoelP says:

    Who see deem the must have rookies this week? Baker hinge? Young? I need The dollars before byes

  52. Shake_n_bake says:

    Rockliff out

    • DavidC says:

      Rocky is now my captain loop hole. Scott and Williams play too early.

    • TOPHAWK1 says:

      Well, that means Rocky is departing my team this week. Time to cut him loose. We wont see him now until round 13. Will keep Williams instead now. Very pleased.

  53. Maverick_ says:

    Yikes! A few little hiccups for me again this round.. no MCrouch and Williams and Hinge has been omitted hurting my plans to grab whitfield.. How is everybody else faring?

    • hedski says:

      Exactly the same as you Mav, could be worse to come tomorrow when Sundays teams settled.

    • Rocksta_ says:

      No Crouch, Williams or Rocky. I’m toast!

    • TRIGGA_HAPPY says:

      Staring at a donut in def with Williams, scrimshaw and Lockhart out. Could swing in Duursma but then have to field shocker.

      Was planning on trading out meirs as he will drop another $25k. But he is playing. Ahhh
      Might be best just to take the hit.

      If drew named could field him
      Wait and see then decide I guess …

  54. Lazza says:

    Well the trading strategy is totally effed … no idea what to do now … looks like I'm going early on Bewley … after watching him last week I reckon he is a lock for the next 6 weeks …. just the type that Lyons loves .. Maybe Gardiner too, straight in from the draft and DPP… Doggies in desperate need of a KPP..

    • TRIGGA_HAPPY says:

      With the dearth of rookies last week brought him in last week

      Old mother hubberd the rookie cupboard is bare …

      Was gonna go fort or hinge both gone now and hatley still not named

      Gonna be ugly again …

  55. Box says:

    !9000 unhappy Supercoach's with Hinge dropped…………………..

  56. Lekdog says:

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  57. Fearthebeard says:

    Think I have to go baker now.

    Will look at hinge and Bewley next week to bank and lastly Gardner.

    We have to learn on going early no

    • Lazza says:

      I know, I know …but I was looking at the 3 trades per bye round to make the difference … I need to move now to be able to get Grundy and Hurn/Lloyd and another couple of premos in over the byes..

  58. TommyC99 says:

    Was Planning on painting the fence this week, Scrimshaw down and Pet up. doesn't look like any real downgrade options. Do i punt on a risky bubble boy (i.e baker) and go with my painting the fence Or sideways trade one of Williams – Sicily or Crouch – Bont/Merrett?

  59. KSinny says:

    Hey community would really appreciate some advice on my team. I've got 18 trades and $139k in the bank. Thinking of going Gibbons to Bewly and Williams to Kelly/Merrett? Any suggestions would be helpful.

    DEF: Sicily, Williams, Smith, Whitfield, Answerth, Hore (Burgess, Lockhart)

    MID: Macrae, Cripps, Gaff, Sloane, M. Crouch, Fyfe, Walsh, Duursma
    (Hayes, Scott, Gibbons)

    RUC: Gawn, Grundy (Bines)

    FWD: Danger, Heeney, Kelly, Boak, Marshell, Petruccelle (Balta, Young)

    • Twilightingale says:

      Walsh to Lloyd, very likely it'll be the cheapest he'll be all season

      Personally wouldn't trade out Williams, shown enough to warrant keeping him all season. But if you're going hard for overall, Burgess on field would be a killer.

  60. dontblushbaby says:

    I wouldn't be trading just for the sake of trading, too many risks on going early on rookies , I have Williams also and will be holding again , just my take mate

  61. Sam_01 says:

    Geee I Hope drew gets up in Rocky’s absence
    Rocky/crouch/Williams on the pine been forced to bring in baker and trade out Hayes hope it works out

  62. FeverVFX says:

    Thoughts on Joshua Ridley for Essendon who’s in the bubble this week? forward rookie who’s at 167k and his js seems to be really good being named on field

  63. Bells says:

    Why is Gardner playing for the Dogs? KPD likely not a scorer? Does he take intercept marks? Is there someone due back next week to kick him back out?
    Struggling for a downgrade – at least he might get me some points if Danger misses.

    • When he was at geelong he played mainly def. but couldn't crack that magnificent senior def.. He played on a lot of good forwards always insisting on the best one like Travis Cloke who he kept goalless. Needed to put on weight like English and did it ,now he is big Like all cat defenders he played both ends. This kid could go alright At worst he links with moore or burgess A yes from me NDD

  64. Still tryin says:

    What about this mozzie kid for Essendon if he gets a gurnsey this week, would ya’s go early on him???

  65. Lazza says:

    Sheezus, the umps are doing their best to get Reece Shaw a job.. freakin unbelievable..

  66. manolaki says:

    Some advice please community.
    Team looks like this plus 200k

    D: Whitfield Lloyd Laird Smith Rozee Hore (Duursma Answerth)
    M: Cripps Fyfe Macrae Oliver Martin Walsh Libba Stack (Scott Stocker O Baker)
    R: Grundy Gawn (O'Brien)
    F: Danger Heeney Boak Kelly Worpel Baker (Young Setterfield)

    Appreciate input into this round trade

  67. Kman says:

    What happens if you have two emergencies on the bench, but one is a non-playing player? I have stupidly left Matt crouch with emergency on, and now I want to VC loophole Josh Kelly's score by putting Rockliff on the field and Stocker as emergency. But with Matt Crouch locked as emergency am I now screwed? If I do this will I receive Matt crouch's 0 because he will of course have a lower score than Stocker?

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