Heroes, Villains and the Damned | Round 10

Heroes

Brodie Grundy (165) – Brodie Grundy, have my children. This man was a beast on Friday. Only had 18 touches, but 64 hit outs really boosted his score. He was a popular VC option and he certainly delivered.

Another day in the office for Scott Pendlebury (146) . He had 29 touches and nine tackles, and throw a goal in there for good measure. He’s been a little inconsistent this year, but has the ability to go big.

Sam Reid (151) showed everyone why he was AFL Live 2’s cover star athlete, with a massive 6-goal haul. He really kept the Swans alive in the game, but couldn’t drag them over the line, while his teammate at the other end Jake Lloyd (115) has been as consistent as they come this year. He’s a lock for a top 6 defender, and is a must have in your side. 35 touches off half back, at 82% efficiency.

Jack Gunston (144) was the beneficiary of some great team play, allowing him to kick 6 goals. He did play very well up the ground as well as in the goal square, which is promising if you have him, while Ricky Henderson (111) celebrated his 50th game for Hawthorn in fine style, with 37 touches and 11 marks. He’s putting together a great season, and while he’s probably not a top 10 midfielder, he’d be a really nice POD.

Xavier Duursma (108) was huge for Port in the loss, playing predominantly as a half back, but also snuck forward. He kicked a goal, but also missed two chances and could’ve had a huge score.

Todd Goldstein (140) was a monster against English, amassing 28 touches and 57 hit outs. Huge. The best part was that he went at 78% efficiency.
That’s three of the last four 130+ for Josh Dunkley (130). He had 29 touches, six marks and six tackles at 69% doesn’t scream 130, but 20 contested possessions certainly helps. He was working at the coalface and deserved a big score, while Marcus Bontempelli (118) was huge yet again, with 25 touches and a goal. He had two other opportunities to score, but missed them both. He’s been great in your sides this year.

Rory Sloane (140) is heading towards a top 6 midfield position this year, and considering he was 522k a few weeks ago, you’d hope you jumped on. 32 touches, 8 tackles and a goal. A huge game for the skipper.

Elliot Yeo (115) – Another great score for a great POD pick. Yeo had 27 touches and 15 tackles, which is a massive number. He went at 55% which let him down significantly, unlike Shannon Hurn (112). Like a fine wine, Hurn has aged beautifully. 22 kicks out of 25 touches, Hurn is a must have post-bye.

Tim Kelly (140) – With Dangerfield out, the stars were aligning for Kelly to run the midfield with Mitch Duncan (123) . And that’s exactly what he (they) did. 35 touches and 8 clearances for the day. He also had two chances at goal go begging, imagine if he kicked straight??? Duncan was a beast for the Cats, with 27 touches and three goals. It’s a real toss up as to who gets the three votes, but I’d give them to Mitch.

Meanwhile, Tom Hawkins (122) kicked four goals, but could’ve had up to seven if he kicked them all. Only 13 touches for the day, but 12 were contested and also managed 7 marks, while rookie Tom Atkins (115) was huge in a week where we really needed our rookies to stand up. Only had 15 touches, but 11 tackles really gave him a boost. He also managed a goal in a day out.

Jeez I’d love to have Bachar Houli (142) in my team. The only issue is he’s burnt me so many times, he’s the reason I have trust issues. 37 touches at 75% and a nice medal to go with it all. Liam Baker (105) – Baker was great in the win, with 24 touches, nine tackles and a goal. Much like Atkins, we needed him to step up in the absence of Dangerfield, Williams, Crouch, etc, etc…

Noah Balta (82) – Balta is a lock in this segment every week, and hopefully is a lock in the Heroes every week. He had a huge 18 disposal game, but missed a shot at goal, and only went at 44%.

Darcy Parish (137) – I feel like the one percent who owns Parish is sitting at home, with a big grin on their face. He was great with 31 touches, 19 contested, and 9 clearances to boot as Zach Merrett (104) wasn’t as dominant this week, but his numbers were good. 30 touches and 8 tackles were let down by 56% disposal efficiency.

Max Gawn (142) – Maxy was huge yet again. It seems that whenever Grundy does well, Gawn has to match it. 25 touches, 35 hit outs and 8 marks boosted his score, while teammate Marty Hore (116) was enormous. Had 18 touches, plenty of them being intercept possessions as well. He was very clean when he got the footy, and was one of Melbourne’s better players.

Josh Kelly (144) – Kelly is in red-hot form at the moment. 31 touches, 9 tackles and a goal typified him as a player. He cut Melbourne up on the MCG, while Tim Taranto (128) has been a great pick this season. 32 touches and 8 tackles, and his score could’ve been even better if he connected with his two shots at goal. Lachie Whitfield (118) was fantastic yet again. He’s a must have in your teams, with 30 touches and two goals, despite playing off half back.

Luke Ryan (131) had another great game, 32 touches at a pretty good clip as well. He’s right on the edge of the top 10 defenders, and a decent POD as well, by my god Nat Fyfe (126) is consistent. 26 touches, but kicked a goal and laid seven tackles as well. He’s in Brownlow-contending form, as long as he doesn’t cop a suspension.Michael Walters (110) – Walters snagged a couple of goals to go with his 25 touches, which really helped out his score. He’s been another good pick this year, despite being a burn man in the past.

Harris Andrews (118) – 10 marks to go with his 15 touches gave Andrews a great score. He’s been a bit inconsistent this season but hopefully he gets going soon, while Dayne Zorko (117) was great, with 21 touches (18 kicks) and a goal. Once again, not a popular pick, but he’s had a decent year.

Daniel Rich (100) – I thought I’d put him in for Lek’s sake. Purely for [REDACTED BY PATCH].

Villains

Plenty of disappointments this weekend. Clayton Oliver (52) got “de Boer’d” this weekend, and he suffered as a result. 17 touches, with four free kicks against really letting him down. Brodie Smith (65) had 22 touches, which usually translates into a better score for him. Unfortunately, his disposals let him down, with only 68% effectiveness, as well as 5 clangers.

Lachie Neale (79) really needed to step up and guide the Lions, and our Supercoach sides,  to the win. Unfortunately he wasn’t able to, with only 26 touches for the day. He went at a good rate though, but he was very handball happy.

In the same boat, Travis Boak (77) – Boak had 26 touches, but was gross with his disposals, going at 42%. The conditions did not help, but only a handful of players went at sub 50, with teammate Tom Rockliff (72) not faring much better. 25 touches for Rocky, but had 5 clangers and went at 64%. It wasn’t a great day for Port midfielders, with none really taking charge of the game.

Isaac Heeney (82) spent much of the second quarter on the bench as the medicos fiddled around with his busted ankle. I imagine they’re trying to get him to the byes, because he needs a rest. The promising signs are that he played midfield for a fair chunk of the game.

Jaeger O’Meara (76) had 22 touches, but only five were kicks, which really hurt his score. He also gave away four free kicks, while Adam Treloar (93) needed to do more with the ball when he had it. Touched it 38 times, but 5 clangers and 57% effectiveness really dampened a potentially monstrous score.

Sainrs wunderkid Rowan Marshall (76) had 34 hit outs to go with 13 touches and 6 tackles, but his disposal efficiency let him down a little. He’s been fantastic all season, hopefully he can come back next week, while Brayden Fiorini (97) – He had plenty of it, 29 touches, but he needed to use it better when he did have it. Four clangers and 58% efficiency hurts anyone’s score.

Jesse Hogan (39)  couldn’t get involved in the game at all. He only had 8 handballs, no kicks, and still went at 50% efficiency. He hasn’t been great this year, while Connor Blakely (69) was in his second game back, so going to cut him some slack, but after last week I expected more. Only 15 touches for the day.

Stefan Martin (52) – Martin got creamed by Rory Lobb this week. He had 21 hit outs, but only 12 touches around the ground.

Damned

Josh P Kennedy (68) came off early and put some ice on his knee. With him being an old boy, watch to see if it was precautionary, or if he’ll miss games. Someone who should miss games is Gary Ablett Junior (93). He’s actually been playing really well this season, and Saturday he had a very serviceable game. But if he’s gonna transform into a grumpy old man and try to king hit everyone every week, then I don’t want him in my side. He deserves a suspension, there’s no way he gets away with a close fist to the jaw not in play.

Jack Scrimshaw (52) was having a good game before going off in the third quarter for the day. He is at the stage to cull if you haven’t already, and an injury is the nail in the coffin. He’s one of several rookies who were average. Gryan Miers (34) time is up. His break even was 90, and he only managed 34. He’s gonna lose cash from now on, unfortunately, while Ben King (22) needs to go if you’ve got him. I know it’s stiff to put a rookie here after two games, but trade that sucker out before he loses you money!!! Two games, averaging 19.5, he’s not a good pick.

Dylan Shiel (68) – Personally I didn’t watch this game, so I don’t know how severe Shiel’s hamstring injury is. But he did miss the last quarter, and AFL.com.au is reporting it could be bad enough to miss games, while Stephen Coniglio (76) is finally here. Another game where Cogs barely contributed, despite the big win. He did spend some time off the ground, but 16 touches is too little when your side dominates the whole day, minus the last 10 minutes.

Angus Brayshaw (66) ain’t moving from this spot. How did this bloke come third in the Brownlow last year? Plenty of Shane Woewodin about Brayshaw. 14 touches for the day, while Kade Simpson (74) needs sleeves. Get the man a pair of sleeves. For Lek’s sake. He’s not coming into my side until he does. Nothing’s changed with Alex Witherden (54), he’s still Damned. 15 touches, and 3 free kicks against. Hopeless.

Redeemed

Caleb Daniel (106) – Daniel returned to his 100+ scoring after a very down week last time out, which scared a lot of people who brought him in before round nine. 29 touches and 9 marks off half back, which is very promising going forward, while I don’t know why we doubted Pat Cripps (116). It wasn’t going to take long before Crippa redeemed himself after last week. He had 28 touches and was pretty effective. He lowered his colours last week, and did his best to carry the Blues over the line, but it wasn’t to be.

Prodigies

Nick Blakey (47) kicked one goal from his 8 touches, but to be honest I didn’t really notice him that much. Only 4 of his 8 touches were effective, which is concerning, while Mark Pittonet (75) had his first game for 2019 in the ruck for Hawthorn, and he led the hit outs for the day against Ryder and Ladhams. With McEvoy missing he should get games, as long as he doesn’t get suspended for trying to eat Sam Powell-Pepper each week.

Peter Ladhams (66) – Ladhams debuted in the absence of Lycett, and played mostly forward after half time, due to him losing most of the hit outs. He had 13 touches and kicked a goal, which was promising. He won’t have a spot each week, though, while it was a day to forget for Billy Frampton (25). Had 9 touches, but didn’t kick a goal and gave away four free kicks. Not a great day.

Connor Rozee (66) – He had Stratton following him around for the majority of the day, which is a huge compliment for the first year player. Unfortunately, that’s not so good for our SuperCoach, as he was restricted to only 12 touches, while a second great score for Bailey Smith (88) leaves him looking really settled in the Bulldogs line-up now, and could go on a great run of form. 21 touches and a goal for the rookie.

Nick Larkey (77) snagged three goals, including two in the last quarter, to help North push out the lead. He only had seven touches for the game, but made his three kicks count, while Jordan Clark (85) was another rookie who needed to score well in a week where most are missing guns onfield. 18 touches and a goal from half back.

People who had Chris Burgess (41) fielded him because they had no one else. He didn’t do much, but you’d take his score over a donut, right? Same for Josh Corbett (47).

Sydney Stack (67) was good but not great, with 16 touches. He did go at 100% efficiency, which is so tasty for SuperCoach, while Callum Coleman-Jones (60) debuted in the ruck, and was serviceable. I can’t imagine he holds his spot when Soldo comes back next week. Shai Bolton (45) only had 11 touches, but he did kick a goal. Personally, I would’ve liked a bit more from him.

Oskar Baker (56) – Baker was handy for Melbourne this week. He had 16 touches and kicked two goals. Apart from the goals, his disposals didn’t count for a huge amount, while Jay Lockhart (32) had a poor game. His goal helped his score, but he had minimal impact with 8 touches.

Sam Walsh (93)  had another great game, with 28 touches to his name. He’s been very good this year, and should be your last upgraded rookie, despite his price starting to rollercoaster, but Michael Gibbons (60) only had 12 touches, but Gibbons managed 2 goals to help out. Most people have traded him out, but he was serviceable if you still have him.

Liam Stocker (64) had 12 touche, but he did go at 91%, which was very promising. He needs to find more of the ball, but the score was okay.

Callum Wilkie (78) – Good score from Callum. 19 touches was handy, but gave away a couple of free kicks which hurt, while I would have loved to be able to trade out Matt Parker (75), but with all the outs he had to stay. 75 is very handy from him though. He kicked two goals to boost his score. Still better than

Robbie Young (17). I almost would’ve rather cop the donut and save a trade, that’s how disgusting Robbie’s score was. 5 touches for the day, and he didn’t impact the scoreboard.
Brett Bewley (49) had his first game and performed pretty well. He had 11 touches at 90% efficiency. Hopefully he can get another go next week, we need him in a couple of weeks as an option, while Mitchell Hinge (73) had a great second game, with 14 touches and a goal. Hopefully he holds his spot, and can be a decent downgrade option this week. Meanwhile Noah Answerth (64)  responded after a roasting last week. He only had 13 touches, but went at 92%, which helped his score.

Who were your heroes, villains and damned this week, community? What are your early trades?


Comments (95)

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  1. FlusteredWombat says:

    I hate supercoach and it brings nothing but suffering to my life, but unfortunately i must persist in this journey towards mediocracy. Thoughts on my potential trades this week? My DEF looks good even without Hore (who I think has maxed out in price now.
    Drew -> T. Kelly
    Hore -> M. Hinge
    ??

    • FlusteredWombat says:

      Including trades, my DEF and FWD are:
      DEF:
      Hurn, Lloyd, Whitfield,
      Williams, Smith, Answerth

      FWD:
      Kelly, Boak, Danger,
      Heeney, Balta, Parker

    • Holty01 says:

      Hi Wombat. Not sure how you figure Hore has maxed out in price. He just scored 116 and went up 27k.
      Do you have anyone else you can trade. Having to field Answerth at d6 just doesn’t look right.

    • JohnDJ59 says:

      Why would you trade out Hore, your top five defenders are the same as mine and I will be keeping Hore as my D6. I'm also trading in Hinge, but I will be trading out Scrimshaw to get him in.

  2. Fragrant Nightmare says:

    Interesting you didn't mention Josh Begley, BE-3 @$167,000.
    Worth a look at for a downgrade option?

  3. Jeffrey says:

    Are there any downgrade options this week, I can’t think of any?

    Already brought in Hinge a week early cause again no viable options out there…

  4. Arnold says:

    Constable to Begley (via Setterfield to mid)
    Then
    Rozee to Boak

    Good or bad trade?

  5. jay shak says:

    how many trades is everyone holding? ranked 137th but down to 16 trades..

  6. Finnius says:

    Injuries this week absolutely killed me. Holding Danger, Crouch and Williams meant that I was forced to field some terrible rookies – and I didn't luck out with their scores. 2196 means that I've dropped to around 600th. The thing is, my team is looking really good now. 16 trades in the bank after this week's ROB to Coleman Jones and Stack to Lloyd via Answerth DPP.

    I then only have one player on field averaging below 85 if the injured players are back, with eyes for Bont, Merrett and Hurn in the weeks to come to round off my team. Trades in the kitty leaves me room for a few sharky sideways trades in the back end of the year.

    Please just no more injuries…

    • Daz says:

      Fin, Ive dropped to 121st from 42nd in the last two weeks and holding all the same injuries plus rockcliff now, gotta think post bye when you have those players that others have sideways traded you will be ahead of them with less Trades to get full premo.

  7. The Salt says:

    B.Crouch got robbed 39d, 26 were kicks. 5 clangers. Cripps had 8clangers hardly affected his scoring

    • Libba says:

      This whole season the Crouch bros are getting robbed and I started with both :/

    • Beezneez says:

      Might have something to do with the kick to advantage ratio. A lot of his kicks are under pressure and not to a particular player. I thought (hoped) he may have scored better as well.

  8. Rocksta_ says:

    What’s the extent of Rocky’s injury? There’s been little mention of it in the media, and I note he isn’t included in ‘the damned’. Will he play next week or not?

  9. Nick says:

    Can someone please tell me how Stefan Martin was on 52 at 3 quarter time, managed to get 4 possessions and several hit outs to advantage in the last quarter and finished with the same score?

  10. Billy says:

    Which forward should i look to bring in for miers this week?

    Can get any forward but Mundy.

    Already have Danger, Dunkley, Heeney and Kelly.

    Boaks form recently scares me

  11. BrownlowBoy says:

    227 touches and 3 goals for Duncan in one game… I'd be lucky to have those stats across my entire career.

  12. Big G says:

    What does the community think of Jeremy Cameron? Take a risk on a KPP?

    • TommyC99 says:

      I honestly really like him. Has a handy bye and he seems to do more than the average KPP. His only 2 poor games were in matches where the giants just didn't show up (68 against the eagles in a 50 pt loss and a 29 in a bad loss against the Hawks, and the one against hawthorn was also injury affected. Holty did bring up his shoulder is a slight concern, but i'm leaning towards gambling on him at this stage, need to take the risk

  13. FearTheBeard says:

    Neale in for Constable I think this week. Breakeven 141 I think but I just don't know if there is any other MUST have mid.

    Looking at Sloane/Duncan/Bont as the last one? Anyone able to convince me differently lol.

  14. Ken says:

    Should I just bite the bullet and get Grundy in now or get him after the bye? Losing points with Goldstein

  15. TommyC99 says:

    Thoughts on Jeremy Cameron? Under 470k with an average of 97.Got the suns, roos and bombers in the next month and has the handy round 14 bye. Not to mention the giants easy month during supercoach finals

    • Holty01 says:

      I don’t mind it Tommy. I looked at him a few weeks ago. My only concern with him is his shoulder. Does have an easy run

    • TelescopicCox says:

      I'm looking at him Tommy. I can go Petruccelle & Lockhart to Hinge & a sub-480K forward. He will help with my bye structure

  16. Sam_01 says:

    Is everyone planning on fielding just the 18 for the byes? Or should we be planning to try field 19-20 as a buffer for the spud rookie scores?

    • Sam_01 says:

      Assuming all my rookies play and with my current trade plans (no sideways trading)
      Rnd 12 I have 20
      Rnd 13 I have 18, 19 if I flick bines to someone who plays
      Rnd 14 I have 19

    • TommyC99 says:

      Reckon ill just get the 18 for the round 13 bye, but the other 2 byes im looking at 19+

    • Derek says:

      Aim for as many as you can.

      It’s a free hit for the loophole

  17. dontblushbaby says:

    For those who have him C.Constable went off early in the 3rd 1/4 with a leg injury and didn't come back on , not sure how bad

    • Steeeve says:

      Thanks DBB might be the final nail in the coffin, or at least I can upgrade others while Constable doesnt lose money

  18. Shake_n_bake says:

    Kennedy out for 3

  19. Shake_n_bake says:

    Cheat sheet was Sell Atkins and Duursma 🤔 l started both what a difference a week makes.

    • TommyC99 says:

      Same Shake. Had to keep atkins because of the carnage and probably would have made way this week if it wasn't for his huge score. Was always going to keep duursma with the intention of playing him during the round 13 byes, the extra cash is a nice little bonus

  20. Murray says:

    I have 200k in the bank and COULD go Grundy to Grundy in 1 trade. Should I do it or is just a luxury trade?

    Goldy seems to be coming good at long last

    • Murray says:

      sorry meant goldy to grundy

    • TommyC99 says:

      I think you can probably get away with not doing it this week. Goldy coming up against Soldo so he could score well. Although Grundy should take the absolute P155 against a ruckless Freo.

  21. Tommo09 says:

    Who should I bring in this week? Pendlebury, Daniel, Cameron or Ryan? Or should I bite the bullet and get Hurn?

    • Sam_01 says:

      If your keen on Cameron now is the time mate, I’d get him ahead of the rest, I’m looking to get hurn after his bye, potentially just flicking Brodie smith up to him if I can! But that being said you should see how your bye rounds set up I’d say Cameron would probably be the best bet

    • TommyC99 says:

      Pendles – Come out of nowhere this year. I'd love to bring him in as a pies man but this would be the week to do it, and i cant afford another round 13 bye player. Has a nice month but after the Hawks he has eagles and Giants away, followed by the Tigs. You could look at it as hes a big game player, and they are all big games but i'll be steering clear unless hes seriously undervalued.

      Daniel – Still a very nice price and quite consistent. His role is still a little up in the air with Suckling and JJ in defense too. Think hes a handy F5/F6 but you can probably wait until round 13 to bring him in as his BE is the same as his average.

      Cameron – Really like this guy. I posted my thioughts on him above. Handy bye, handy run of fixtures for the next few weeks as well as during supercoach finals. At a nice price too. I'm looking at him this week.

      Ryan – Got a huge ceiling and at a POD ownership can win you league matchups on his own (i found that out the hard way losing one of my main leagues by 10pts to a bloke who has him). Like Daniel his BE is similar to his average so you can probably wait until round 13 if you wanted to.

  22. Shake_n_bake says:

    Rockliff on the plane to China

  23. Holty01 says:

    So community. Although not a bad situation to be in but might need some ideas of best rookie to trade out. I was going to trade out any of these this week as I thought they had peaked in price but they all came out on the weekend and outdid themselves. So although now they have more money to make, 1 has to go. Who should it be?
    Hore
    Duursma
    Baker
    Clark
    Atkins

    • Shake_n_bake says:

      Definitely look at who you need for the bye rds don’t worry to much now about who to move only if you can. All those rookies could be gold come those rds.

    • Swans2012 says:

      Agree with shake re byes but Clark if I had to choose

      • Holty01 says:

        thanks lads. Funny that I was looking at the same. Clark is probably the sensible option.

    • Derek says:

      Hore has been magnificent since round 4 (average 90.9). His 116 will net another $40k over the next 2 weeks, will peak at $440k. Round 13 bye so turns into a Sicily round 13 who will be bottomed out at $480k

      Duursma only has this week before his bye. I'm going to hold him now to play round 13 (i need all warm bodies) plus it will get every last dollar out of his 108 by holing him a couple more. his DPP is very handy.

      Baker, not happy i missed this bloke. 105 will net another $45k before his round 14 bye

      Clark was moved on from the bunnies a few weeks ago. he has had too many 40's to stay any longer in your team. his JS is probably poor

      Atkins, sigh, i had him on field the week he scored 12, i was fooled by Geelong in thinking Constable wasn't playing, sigh. his JS looks ok with Ablett missing, if he can play two more you get the benefit of the 12 dropping out, he could easy be $40k better in 2 weeks.

      Clark would be my first to go.

    • Lazza says:

      I'd move on Clark, Holty… not that you need my advice .. you gun ..

    • Daz says:

      tough call; all gunna make you good cash in a year where cows are not prevalent, especially ones with good JS. Can you hold out a week and see which one drops a turd? if I had to pick one of those Id look at the two geelong boys as they have the bad bye.

  24. Shake_n_bake says:

    Ablett offered 1 week

  25. ojs says:

    bont macrae or j kelly? i know kelly is likely the best is bont/macrae better value at their price

    • Ken says:

      Josh Kelly… Get him in now

      • Derek says:

        Kelly is the new love child of CD

        • Lazza says:

          Great news Derek .. one thing to go right this season … still lamenting trading out Yeo and Hore in R3 …

          • DavidC says:

            Something to remember for next year. These so called "corrective" trades in the first few rounds rarely work out for the better long term. Better to just suck it up and hold the trades. I traded out Cogs before RD 3 which luckily hasn't come back to bite me, getting in LDU was definitely a wasted trade.

  26. Derek says:

    don't like all this talk about Jacobs coming back. Have been holding ROB hoping he would play round 13 before being culled.

  27. ThatsGoldJerry says:

    Hey guys do I hold or trade Cogs ?? Thanks

  28. Libba says:

    Brodie Grundy posted scores of 130+ on 7 occassions of the 10 and only 1 score below the ton

    • Lazza says:

      SC are considering a mercy rule for those without Grundy .. there will be a DVC option after the byes 😁

  29. Swoopstar says:

    So only way I can get Whitfield in is trading Moore and Clark who still have bit of money to make. But since Whitfield is likely to climb +20/30k this week and eventually back to 600k+, i'm thinking it's a sensible move. Thoughts?

  30. Lazza says:

    Seems a bit is revealed re Brad Scott … turns out at the last Board meeting (last week) they considered BS’s tabled options and decided to terminate him Monday (today) .. with the ‘leak’ they brought it fwd a day.. BS was not prepared to go thru a total rebuild but that was the option the Board wanted ..

    • Russty_ says:

      Hey Lazza, I reckon he was probably counting his lucky stars he didn't get canned after his first 5 years, was probs just going year to year from then.
      North seem very similar to the Saints to me in that they can't seem to recruit any real ongoing talent, and who's to blame for those decisions?
      Probably not the Coach but they bear the brunt when the side doesn't perform.
      Sides like Hawks, Geelong and Richmond seem much better at getting good new players into the system, whereas teams like the Saints, North, Carlton etc are still bottom of the barrel teams, how long does it take to turn a side around? Too bloody long in those cases.

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