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Supercoach Cheat sheet | Pre-round 9

Published by Statty Matty on

Well community, I’ve for a confession to make. I’ve got to admit, I’m really struggling this year and I can’t seem to get back to a reasonable score.

Thankfully it’s not rookies who’ve burnt me (I think my advice has been solid), but my premos. Whitfield, Crisp, Martin>Brayshaw, Shiel, Danger, Heeney.

There’s not a lot you can do about underperforming premos. Wisdom says “hold your premos”, but I held Martin for 1 week too long, when I could have upgraded him to Neale for only a small cost. When I did eventually trade him, I chose between Merrett and Brayshaw. That decision alone has cost me 200 points since Round 4, and would have bumped me up over 20,000 places. Including the Neale non-decision, it’s cost me 314 points, and an extra 10,000 places. (I just checked and if I’d actually kept Martin, I’d have 3 more points than trading to Brayshaw. <sadface>)

It’s really easy to get bogged down on where you went wrong. The point I want to make it small decisions can have a big impact, but this works both ways. Finding that perfect POD and getting a run of points out of him can flip your season on it’s head. Don’t go overboard and pack PODs into your team, but look for a good one … maybe two, who is a POD but also likely to be top 6-8 come season end.

See ya in the comments.
Statty Matty.

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BrokenChairs

Sloane v Merrett?

Ja191

Merrett for me, way better bye should average more and sloane has deboer and hutchings tag in the next 4 weeks

BrokenChairs

Cheers mate

Shaun

The Sloane Ranger every time

Russty_

Fight!…is this Tekken 8?

BlueChips

Am still wondering about Stocker. Just think the Blues will persevere with him. Just needs that on 80+ game to make good dollars. Dunno!?

Steeeve

I'm taking the punt, need to free up the cash

COREYSC

Advice on my team community?
Not sure if I need to paint the fence, double downgrade or just hold trades?
26 Trades and 233K In Bank
Lloyd, Z.Williams, B.Smith, Hore, Duursma, Clark (Answeth, Burgess)
Cripps, Neale, Fyfe, Macrae, M.Crouch, B.Crouch, Walsh, Gibbons (Atkins, Hayes, Scott)
Grundy, Gawn (Bines)
Dangerfield, T.Kelly, Dunkley, Heeney, Drew, Setterfield (Parker, Corbett)

Russty_

Good start mate, lucky you haven't had to do many trades, but maybe time to start making some moves now.
Painting the fence this week would help get rid of some dead weight, eg Burgess, Scott, Parker
See if Stocker gets named again, I'm hoping he will..looked all right the other day.

COREYSC

Atkins to Stocker and Parker to Daniel but he’s role may have changed also Mundy but now Blakley has come back so might have to go for Boak and pay top dollar

FearTheBeard

Lads been doing my head in again lol. I keep losing extremely close games (e.g last week I lost by 2 points with Ross on field and my opponent didn't have him) lol.

Anyway. Do I move O'Brien and get Neale in NOW which means I have to field Shai Bolton this week?

Do I hold on that and add Dunkley and keep Bolton on the bench?

Do I cut Walsh before he bleeds cash and get Neale or even JKelly? in and add bank for next week with eyes on Dunkley or perhaps add Dunkley and cut Walsh this week and move on Neale next week with hope he bleeds a touch and O'Brien adds a bit more?

Walsh ultimately will go it's just he is a bit more reliable and another 100 could see some more cash? If I part with Walsh I field Stack this week so not terrible cover?

Thoughts? Advise?

FearTheBeard

Just on this current line up is :

Hurn, Laird, Williams, Smith, Hore, Duursma (Clark, Burgess)

Cripps, Fyfe, Macrae, Cogs, Rocky, Walsh, Constable, Stack (Ross, Akins, Answerth)

Grundy, Gawn (O'Brien)

Boak, Kelly, Daniel, Danger, Marshall, Moore (Bolton, Bines)

If I go Dunkley I will part with Duursma. Move Moore up could sell Walsh and bank 200k for next week? Leaves Stack & Constable on field with Bolton by swinging Moore up with Burges.

If I go Neale then Walsh goes out and could sell Duurmsa move Moore up, put Bolton on field and bank 100k by bringing in Stocker etc.

Or even Jkelly etc?

JohnDJ59

Hi FTB, I think I have answered this one before, I would hold O'Brien for one more week, still has cash to make and Neale has another week of losing value. Duursma to Dunkley is the smart move this week.

Russty_

Hi Beard, I don't think you need Neale now, b/e 158 and for ROB, you'd just be throwing money away.
I'd be ok with fielding Bolton this week.
Could you Go Duursma to Dunkley and Ross to Stocker, moving Moore to the backline?
That's what I'd do…cheers.
I don't think Walsh has to go yet, he may lose a bit of cash, but he scores well for a rookie most of the time.

FearTheBeard

Thank you Rustty & John.

So to do that I can't take Stocker and need to run with another mid. I am $600 short off making that work as a Dunkley & Stocker IN for Atkins & Duursma. Which is why I was looking at O'Brien with potentially Neale/JKelly coming in instead of Dunkley for a lock in my mid field.

If I go Dunkley & any other rookie that plays sub 125k I can just move Duursma & Atkins/Ross.

GreendaleFC

Think I'm going to take a risk this week and bring in Tom Hawkins. Will put a lot of pressure on my bye structure, but looking at Geelong's fixture, I see him kicking a lot of goals. The other options are Sloane or Oliver.
Edit: Actually I'm going to bring in Sloane and Hawkins for Parker and Walsh.

Billy

Which Defender out of Laird, Stewart, Rich Would you pick.

Laird would mean my defence would have 4 players out during the round 14 bye

While Rich and Stewart byes fit my structure

FearTheBeard

Personally Billy I would take Laird. He is a lock.

Stewart could be ?

JEL

Why is having 4 players out in defense a problem during the byes?

GreendaleFC

In the bye rounds you get your best 18 scores out of the 22 players on field. If you have four defenders out that means you can only fit a maximum of 20 scoring players on field. Add in some injuries and non playing rookies and you can find yourself in trouble. If the majority of Billy's rookies are playing I'd go Laird, otherwise either Stewart or Rich.

Hplate

POD choice in def: Lachie Weller? 436K, M/D swing, is getting defensive kickouts and is playing that defensive distributor type role like Daniel Rich. Averaging 89 for the season in 4 games played (55, 93, 103, 106) and if not for that 55 in the first round he'd be on a 100 average.
5th season in the league, played 70 odd games, could be making the jump ala Caleb Daniel? Food for thought anyway.

Soothsayer

I brought him into my draft team this week, could be a real smoky.

Dash

360K. Looking at your best two trade ideas this week. Thanks in advance.
Laird, Sicily, Whitfield, D Moore, Duursma, Collins, (Clark, Answerth)
Macrae, Cripps, Fyfe, Neale, Libba, Walsh, Setterfield, Hayes, (Atkins, Scott, Gibbons)
Gawn, Grundy, (Bines)
Danger, Heeney, Boak, Drew, Balta, Parker (Burgess, Corbett)

Murray

Should I get in Sloane, J Kelly or McCrae. Sloane looks tempting, only ave 6 less than McCrae, higher ceiling, lower BE

What do you think?

TommyC99

So i was going to hold walsh but i was playing around and i have 607k to buy a midfielder. My shortlist currently looks like this:
Zerrett
Bont
Sloane

Is the trade worth it? And if so which of the 3 listed would be the best selection?

Sana

I like Zerrett. Apparently the tag has been going to Shiel allowing him to run free (and rack up points)

Bont is a positional enigma. Wouldn't be surprised to see him named anywhere on the field, which in some cases could affect his score. Wouldn't blame anyone for taking him though.

Sloane hates a tag, this is enough to put me off. Love the bloke though, and cheap right now. Top 8-10 mid though?

DavidC

Wow, Tom Boyd just retired.

cash_cows

Sadly only 4.6k with 23 trades.
Hurn, Lloyd, Williams, Hore, Duursma, Answerth – Burgess, Lockhart
Cripps, Fyfe, Macrae, Oliver, MCrouch, Cogs, Danger, Walsh – Atkins, Setters, BScott
Grundy, Gawn – ROB
Daniel, Heeney, Dahlhaus, Drew, Petruccelle, Parker – Balta, Corbett

Had to move Danger to mid last week for trades. Ideally want to move him back soon.
Looking at the following 2 trades, what do we think?
Walsh + Petruccelle -> Bont + Stocker.

Oliver did redeem himself last week but Cogs is still driving me insane.

James Sykes

Hi guys.

My first trade is pretty simple – Ross to Stocker or Hately but the second one is doing my head in.

I've already decided I want Macrae but who to go? Libba, Brayshaw or Sam Walsh?

joe

i have the same problem. thinking get rid of libba

James Sykes

thats currently the rage trade I plugged in Monday but I'm starting to waiver.

IF (big if) libba and Brayshaw can turn it around then walsh to macrae fills my premo spots on field for Mids

The Ranger

So what's the consensus on Stocker?
Will he continue to get games? I'm not sold on him but there's not much else around this week.
Lek?

Binga

Thoughts on Walsh out Sloane in?

JEL

Is Parker to Ham worthwhile?
Trying to generate some cash, what do people think of Ham's long term prospects?

James Sykes

5 possessions last game I believe. You can't do that too many times and hold your spot I assume.

JEL

Turns out he didn't make the cut this week.
Parker lives on.

redherringfc

Has anyone checked his pulse? You might find it “Weekend at Bernie’s”.

DerekZ

McCrae , Kelly or Sloane ?

BomberKnighta

Mcrae more cosistant (little more of a conservative option). Can still go big but not injury risk or position dependent.

josh

Bontempelli, J Kelly or Sloane?

Sana

Matt Suckling appears to be an ultra POD. Very consistent. Will need a few more games in that groin though… Maybe post rd 12 bye

hedski

Burnt me bad last year Sana.
On the never again list.

Sana

Don’t think I’ve looked at him since 2012! Haha

Nick

Hi All,
If you had to pick one between MaCrae, Fyfe or Merrett who would you pick?

Gainsy

Macrae

Nick

Cheers guys

Dan

What are people's thoughts on trading in someone who you traded out earlier in the season?
I'm real tempted to trade Petruccelle -> Dunkley, but did trade Dunkley out earlier in the season. I would hate to be burned again.

Alternatively, I could just trade Walsh -> JKelly.

Gainsy

Forget past trades and assess as new

nankthetank

When deciding between two trades like that, ask yourself how many more points you'll be gaining by making each trade.

hedski

Crouch named <img draggable="false" class="emoji" alt="πŸ‘" src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/11.2.0/svg/1f44d.svg"&gt;
Gonigliog out <img draggable="false" class="emoji" alt="πŸ˜ͺ" src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/11.2.0/svg/1f62a.svg"&gt;
Hately named <img draggable="false" class="emoji" alt="πŸ‘" src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/11.2.0/svg/1f44d.svg"&gt;
No idea what to do with my trades this week.

Maverick_

crouch might be a late out i reckon hedski i'm not confident he plays but hope i am wrong!
hopefully crows don't take him to QLD if so and we know sooner rather than later.
fingers crossed hately is named i need to downgrade both ross and atkins asap

Tommo09

Hately or Stocker if both named?

hedski

Both?

Tommo09

I wanted to get Gaff in this week but if I have to wait another week that might be fine
Plus Stocker is only averaging 39. Still a good option?

hedski

I'm torn between double down (Stocker/Hately for Parker/Atkins) or one down one up (Fyfe/J.Kelly for Walsh).
Cogs out and possibly Crouch is doing my head in.
Stocker looked ok in his second game, they need to play him, Hately I'm not sure how many games he gets but if he strings a couple together……

Tommo09

Gaff BE is quite low so it’s now or never on him. I’m kinda hoping only one gets named

dontblushbaby

Constable omitted , seriously !

JohnDJ59

Both Constable and Hately deserve to be playing games, they are up there with Walsh, just in the wrong team for JS.

Critique

I can't agree with that John, afl coaches pick teams to win games of footy not to win supercoach πŸ™‚

Russty_

Most blokes who score well in Supercoach also contribute well to the overall Team effort, points are awarded for effective acts rather than the other game where points are awarded for ineffective disposals and even stuffing up.

JohnDJ59

I was talking about footy in general Critique, both Constable and Hately have shown in the games they have played, that they are good enough to be playing AFL, if they were in a bottom four side, they would be getting games, just like Walsh is.

redherringfc

Hately is named on the bench at 4. I think he’ll get another run this week, not too confident after that, but if he makes the cut he’s joking my fishing club.

redherringfc

Oops, I’ve let it out of the bag now that I’m actually building a fishing club. I’m not too concerned with football.

redherringfc

I meant join, but who knows, maybe he’ll turn it into a joke anyway.

PhilipTheFish

Can I Join?

SamuraiPizzaCat

Serious lack of rookie options this week.

Can anyone comment on James Rowbottom? Has scored a 46 and a 32. $117k. Playing.

Critique

Strange surname. I wonder what his ancestors did to get that as a surname

Russty_

Maybe they had a history of being bad at Rowing.

Browncow

Or maybe just a leaky boat

Lazza

They lived at the bottom of a valley amongst the deer .. derivation of Roe-bottom…. had to google it …

Russty_

Better off going for Larkey I reckon Samurai, even after the price rise, he looks a decent player.

Derek

He looked ok in his first 2 games. Gave away a heap of free kicks in second game, just seemed too enthusiastic and trying too hard.

He has great hair, is courageous and gives 100%

Has been in swans best in the reserves nearly every week and not surprised he is playing

Has taken Jacks place, listed as injured.

There are a few other swans might get dropped before Rowbottom, might be worth the cheap price.

Does have the r13 bye

nankthetank

Constable must be banging scott's wife or something… seriously what more does the kid have to do to get games

Lekdog

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Training Cray

Damn, keilty was dropped. Any defensive rookie options other than him??

Maverick_

same boat Holty. i don't want to miss the cows on the bubble especially the scoring power of hately but i have brayshaw to deal with so i sort of need to prioritise him, he's killing me with a BE of 140 so it's now or never.

hedski

I have Cogs, Crouch and Angus…sucks to be me Mav.

Maverick_

ouch! can i ask your trade plans hedski?
you going to offload angus?

hedski

I'll upgrade around Angus Mav, trying to be conservative this year, I've already done two sideways trades, Heeney to TK (rnd2) and Darling to The Midget (after Darlings 9).
Tossing up a double down or paint the fence, will wait till final Sunday teams tomorrow arvo.

Saritz

I’m in the same boat hedski. I think once you get a premo in you have to stick with them…. until the rest of your team is upgraded. So with guys like Brayshaw I’m going to ride him out at M8/M9 until about rd 15/16. Fingers crossed he goes back to a full time mid role in the meantime and saves us a trade!

Swans2012

Yeah it’s a tricky one, I really don’t want to but think I’ll have to take them both if they are both named, which would mean no Walsh to macrae until next week….

Jeffrey

Hately or Stocker? Assume both are in final team

redherringfc

Hately should score much higher but he might only play every now and again (or never again).

I’m going to bring him in if he makes the cut. I’d rather take his 80 plus points and his 80k price rise this week than hang onto Atkins and lose money.

Jeffrey

Good valid points there – same here

Derek

Rowbottom on bubble. Did ok in first 2 games but missed out when Jack came back.

Has had a few really good games in seconds and has taken Jacks place again. How long will Jack be out for?

Only $117k and great hair

If he didn’t have r13 bye, I’d get him

Fearthebeard

Fma. Cogs and Constable out.

Gainsy

Hately named… interesting. Currently looking at macrae and gunston in for petrec and menegola.

TRIGGA_HAPPY

Well sort of

On extended bench …

See what happens 5pm 2mrw

Derek

He won’t make it, not with Whitfield back

Derek

If he does, he will go as soon as Cogs is back

PhilipTheFish

Is it worth trading in a non playing dpp so that I can use the loophole?
If its a good idea which team has the most sunday games for the second half of the year
Who to trade out so I can get nonplayer dpp- Collins, Balta, Parker ?

Gainsy

Freo did have most across whole season but dont know 2nd half

Derek

Do that after the byes. You still need to be making cash and having warm bodies on field for the byes.

After the byes, you night have one not by choice anyway.

Cash generation not as important after byes but loopholes are. Loopholes, DPP’s and Ruck cover, essential. Plus a good M9/F7

Russty_

If you're trading Ross out for Stocker…wait until he's named, unless you have to do two trades to make your other one work.

The Ranger

Get Whitfield back. Woohoo!!
Lose Coniglio. D'oh!

Russty_

What will you do next week Ranger if Cog's finger is still bothering him?

Fearthebeard

I’m stuck in Coggs too. Constable
And Ross aren’t helping for cover πŸ˜‘

Rick Grimes

Cogs and Constable both out has scuttled my plans. Feel like I'm just shuffling deckchairs on the Titanic at the moment.

Russty_

How many trades remaining Rick?…could work in your favour punting them both.
Wonder how much Cog's painful finger has been making him not want to touch the ball all that much lately?
Those things can drag on for a while.

Fearthebeard

Haha I feel you rick. It’s my exact issue. Neither where getting touched. Now I question how much more I can ride Constable. Cogs is a headache but I don’t really want to trade him unless I have too as he’s locked as a keeper for me. Doesn’t help Ross as cover either πŸ˜‘

Lazza

Hope you don’t have Drew as well.. fair chance he won’t make the cut this week..

Swans2012

Where does this come from? Surely he keeps his spot?!I

JohnDJ59

Probably because Butters has come back in. I have the E on Petruccelle, just in case.

JohnDJ59

I have M.Crouch, Cogs, Constable, Ross and maybe Drew to contend with. Ross will be upgraded, Drew I can cover after moving him to the fwd line, but the other three are going to be a problem.

Duckky01

Hi all

Trading out Libba for one of: Slone, Zerrett, Oliver or Macrae

My heart says Oliver but my head says ask in here…

Russty_

Macrae First I reckon Ducky

Saritz

Macrae. Sloane is susceptible to tags and has quiet games. Oliver and Zerrett can go big but are less consistent than Macrae

Derek

Sloane for value and his bye

Merrett as a POD

Macrae because he is good plus you are getting him $120k cheaper than people who started with him

Oliver has a really tough run of games and has the round 13 bye.

I already have Merrett, Sloane and Oliver, and I’m getting Macrae this week

redherringfc

Macrae. He is exceptional value at the moment.

BrownlowBoy

Team is cooked this week.

Rick Grimes

I'm going to have Atkins or Gibbons on field. Not the best.

BrownlowBoy

I'm going to have both at this point!

Cogs, Constable, Drew all out throws a spanner in the works for my trade plans.

Don't think Atkins plays to be honest, probably a late out for Constable as Atkins didn't train this week.

hedski

Is Drew out?

Russty_

Yeah I read some things earlier in the day too Holty, and then the article in the Herald Sun saying he could be omitted for Joe Atley after only getting 11 disposals last week.

Holty01

I’ve been sort of lucky or smart (depends how you look at it) this week so far by avoiding some of the carnage. Only have Crouch and Drew.
*Didn’t go Ross as thought Baker was a better option.
*Didn’t go Cogs as thought he would struggle with the extra attention with Shiels leaving (although that 150 in the first round scared me)
*And traded out Constable as soon as I lost faith he was best 22.

Russty_

Luck and smarts play a part mate, but keep doing what you're doing by trusting your gut instincts cause it's working well so far.

Holty01

Sorry I will rephrase that last comment
‘Dropped/rested’ is the rumour.

Holty01

Agreed mate

Sam_01

Gee the burgess to hately trade feels bad but boy does that spud have to go, can’t do any loophole action this week with eagles up first! Hopefully josh kelly brings home a big one, brought him in Tis week and gave him the C

Unsullied

Any more news on DeGoey injury? Word is he could be a late out.

Russty_

Bucks said it'll be a late call, on the day.

Stupid Coach

Great cheat sheet Matty. Carnage galore this week. I finally get to pull the trigger on Devon Smith this week, however, he is lost so much cash that he is now worth less than the majority of rookies in my team.

I also have Ross, Constable, Joyce , Scott and Coniglio not playing while Parker, Wilkie and Drew have reached their BE's.

Do I downgrade Smith to a rookie mid or forward and upgrade Constable to J Kelly, T Kelly, Bont or Fyfe or do I upgrade Smith to T Kelly (any other suggestions welcome) and downgrade Ross, Constable or Scott to a mid rookie like Hately, Larkey or Stocker.

Help !! My head hurts!!!

Holty01

So what is everyone doing this week if both Hatley and Stocker are named. Do you go with the scoring potential of Hatley but risk him being dropped at anytime? Or do you go with Stocker whose JS seems better but scoring potential seems limited. But he is a potential warm body for the bye rounds which could be extremely valuable.

JohnDJ59

If Hately is named I will be getting him in, with Cogs out this week and maybe next as well, you would think Hately gets a few games, three games should get us 150k+ in cash generation.

Holty01

That is a fair call John. If he can get those 3 games in before his bye, would be a very handy pickup

JohnDJ59

I did say if named Neil, if he isn't and Stocker is, then I go with Stocker, since I need the downgrade to be able to upgrade Ross.

Russty_

Think I'm gonna pass on Hately…just can't trust his Coach. I'll get Stocker if named cause I have Ross. LTI

Derek

There is Rowbottom for $117k.

Russty_

2366 people need to reverse their overcooked Brayden Ham trade.

Holty01

πŸ˜‚ Very true

Russty_

Hehe, he's now about as useful as last year's Christmas Ham.

Holty01

Now come on boys, stop taking the pig out of him.

AuroraBorealis?!

Yeah lets relax guys, he's really getting ham-mered at the moment

Soothsayer

Looking to the future – how cheap are Devon Smith, Robbie Gray, jack Gunston, and maybe Buddy going to be if they can turn their form around?

Derek

If you haven’t made enough cash to get the top 6, you will need to look at those players.

I like Robbie as my F7/M9. Port play Swans, North and Fremantle for our finals, all Saturday games to loop him.

Rick Grimes

I'm interested in Gunston this week. 99, 93 last two. Can he maintain a 95 ave from here out? I think so, which at $400k makes him massively underpriced.

Lot talk about will he be top 8 overall. That's only pertinent before season starts. Should be asking will he be top 8 from when i buy him.

TRIGGA_HAPPY

Pop quiz.

Do you trade down a rookie who Is maxed out like gibbons or a rookie who has more cash to make but isn't playing like constable or drew?

Gibbons probably will make $30k more over next 3 weeks but is playing whereas constable can make that in a week….???

Which way do you jump?

TBone_9

I reckon you keep Gibbons there Trigga. If it ever comes down to needing a scoring rookie he will be right there for you. Could be carnage this week with the possible late outs waiting to happen though!

Derek

I have got rid of non playing rookies. Burgess, Scott and Clark I traded out.

Had only one non playing rookie last week, Bines.

Result has been my team value is pushing $13mil.

Cash is king

I’ll keep Constable this week and trade out Atkins, need a VC loophole as Bibes plays Friday.

Derek

And Setterfield

DavidC

I tend to hold non playing rooks if they still have cash to make as long as I still have bench cover. However things change when the byes approach as you need warm bodies to field 18 players. So I might trade Constable just before the byes if he is still not playing.

Lenny

Wow! Thanks for the info fella's, still learning about this league.

Lenny

What about Heeney? He's lost 100,000 over the last 3 weeks and score has dropped 5 weeks in a row

Rick Grimes

Getting pushed forward too much. I think that changes soon and he'll score well. Still reckon he's top 8 fwd by season end so won't be trading out.

SamJ

What’s everyone think about Mundy? Heeney to Mundy trade on the table?

Ja191

Na heeney will be top 8 keep him. Plus blakely comes in which might effect mundys scoring

Swoosh111

Mundy a bit pricey at the moment. Mitch Robinson is scoring well ( 3 x 100+ scores on the trot) and would be a very interesting POD only in 2,100 teams.

Derek

watch Mundy's TOG with Blakely back. he might go back to 65%

Lenny

I upgraded Heeney for T Kelly

Ja191

Was gonna bring merrett in for coniglio, does Shiel out effect him – possibly more attention?

DavidC

Shiel is not out, maybe you mean Smith.

Ja191

Oh lol operation merrett is still a go