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Red Dead (Rookie) Redemption

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THEY’RE BACK! Just when you thought they were gone, down and out, our rookies are BACK, BABY! Well, some of them were never here, in the case of Michael Gibbons, and some of them never left, in the case of Sam Walsh, but for all intents and purpses – as Jesus did on Easter all those years ago, the rookies have risen.

They’ve risen in price, they’ve risen in scoring capacity and most importantly, they’ve risen in price. Because that’s all we want from them. Cash. Because we’re remorseless and heartless people buying and selling people on an imaginary stock market.

So come, let the barefoot and pantless investors of the Supercoach world talk you through this week on the imaginary human person stock market – who to buy, who to trade, and who to keep an eye on for the future.

We also abuse each other. Because of course we do. Who are you buying and trading this week, community?

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GloryDays94

Honestly have no idea….. probably no one tbh

Patch

I like this answer! Yes!

COREYSC

I don’t think I need to make any trades this week unless Scott or Parker is dropped I’ll be targeting Hatley next week as my first trade of the season

manolaki

Baker? Ross?

Holty01

It’s all about quick cash generation imo so Parker out for Baker.
Next week Hately for Scott if all goes well.

Tyruddanaut

That’s not quick cash gen.

I’m thinking of the same BUT it only nets 50k
We could be netting around 100k and miss out on 50k potential cash gen which is ultimately better

DavidC

Yeh, I don't like to trade them out until they get close to 300K. Unless they are non playing and little chance of a game.

manolaki

Are Burgess or Parker going to reach 300k?

Holty01

Really depends on what you consider quick cash generation. 50-60k a week isn’t what Walsh is achieving but the chance to make 200k in 4-5 weeks id be very happy with.

Scouser

Its 50k minimum as you also get whatever Baker makes minus whatever Parker would have made which should add another $50k minimum looking at projections and BEs. Plus you still have the rest of Bakers appreciation to come so on that basis alone it's a no-brainer for mine. Finding the next fwd rookie after Baker who's got similar potential is also going to be a challenge I reckon given the rubbish so far, Drew asid, so a very sound 'investment trade' Baker also likely to peak around byes assuming he gets the game time so future trade timing good also.

Ken

Walsh is an absolute gun!
I decided to skip on him because of Brayshaw last year and it's killed my cash gen.

I decided to start Sheed and Rockliff over Walsh and libba ….arghhhh

Steeeve

I had the same philosophy but caved at the last minute. Glad I did!!

COREYSC

Could Cale Hooker for Patch be the equivalent of Lekdog’s Daniel Rich?

Lekdog

pls no

Ken

Slip of the tongue

Iamme

I'm thinking downgrading J.Clarke to bubble boy Rotham this week and pocket 140K

James

Rotham was dropped last week and even if he gets back in his JS is meh. Clarke still has more to make.

Tyruddanaut

Not by much, though. It will be a slow burn

James

True but you are wasting a trade for a player with no JS who might not make much more than Clarke. Better to hold until a more reliable rookie comes up imo as there is no harm in holding since in the meantime you make cash and don't waste a trade.

joe

Keep an eye on selection; it is highly likely that Clark will be the one to make when Tuohy returns

Tyruddanaut

I’m wondering who I should downgrade Clark for?

Lockhart and bank the cash
Rotham and hope he plays
Some brand new rookie who only popped up this week

I'm_Eugene

Wondering if I should upgrade Darling to Balta. If I'd done it last week I would have been 39 points ahead already.
Maybe I can swap Darling for a soggy bog-roll that's been retrieved from the fetid gut of a decomposing croc, that would be a win

Rick Grimes

Can't see too many moves this week. Concerned about JS for the Richmond bubble boys. Anythiing else looks sideways. May just hold and hope I get the right combination of my squad on the field at once.

Lazza

I wanna hold , but I have too many rookies only earning $10k or less this week … and a couple who are near their max … will also need 2 trades next week … so going in for Ross

Nathan Runge

This week Burgess out for Baker
Next week butters or scott (depending on be) out for hatley
And clark up to siclily or hurn

Mickaboy

452,000 for a backliner, due to Milera, any potential top six backliners avalilable

Dermin8r

WCE Brad Sheppard

Gen

Zak jones

BrownlowBoy

How good is the GOAT Gary Ablett Jnr

Lekdog

Very

DEE

The Little Master

COREYSC

What a jet, great to have him back at the Cattary in a role that could see him play another 1-2 years

HarryH76

Yep have to be happy with the rookies this week. Hore, Petruccelle, Gibbons, Drew, ROB and Walsh all great for my side. Although I had one shocking rookie on field in Jack Darling. I mean, 9 points from 86% TOG must have come from a first year rookie right???? I can't believe I paid so much money for a first year rookie…..

RoyWetard

Who of these guys would you trade in for Milera – Laird, Stewart, Salem, Simpson, Sheppard or DANIEL RICH? I want to trade Parker to Kelly next week but Laird or Stewart would make that difficult, it would require Hutchings tagging Kelly like he did in JLT along with Parker and in the case of Wagner playing and outscoring their projections or Hayes or Lewis over Hately next week.

DavidC

Laird might improve with Milera out. Stewart was looking good until this week. The others are pretty risky. Maybe Salem if it allows you to get Kelly next week.

Derek

Laird is a gun. nice price. BE 104 so won't get him much cheaper.

Lekdog

Personally I would trade in Laird

KSinny

Hey community need a bit of help as for what to do with my team, I currently have $103k and 28 trade. Any suggestions this week? Here's my team..

DEF: Whitfield, Williams, Smith, Collins, Duursma, Hore (Burgess, Clarke)

MID: Macrae, Cripps, Cogs, Sloane, M. Crouch, Libba, Walsh, Butters (Constable, Scott, Gibbons)

RUC: Gawn, Goldy (O'Brien)

FWD: Danger, Heeney, Kelly, Moore, Drew, Petruccelle (Balta, Bines)

Derek

your team looks good.

next step is to think about who your upgrade targets are. Make sure you look at the byes.

is there a fallen premium who looks juicy this week, like a Laird or Simpson or is there one who still needs to drop a bit more like a Fyfe or Gray?

If there is someone you want this week, you get the calculator out and do some math and paint the fence.

Collins and Clark out will give you $644k to get a Laird $522k and a rookie for $122k

if there isn't anyone you like the look of you can probably hold this week

all depends on who your next upgrade target is and when the best time to get them, depending on what their BE etc

TelescopicCox

You could look at Collins, Clark or Burgess to Lockhart if named, and maybe Scott to Ross, but none of those moves are pressing

Derek

testing…..

Derek

i wrote a reply and it needs to be approved. very annoying when that happens.

what upgrade player do you want?

Lekdog

Make an intensedebate account so I can stop this happening

HallyMate

Thinking Z.Jones as a backline pod this week, playing full time midfield role goes hard at the pill, anyone got any reasons I shouldn’t?

Iknownothing

I don't mind Zac but he's likely to do something silly ala a Toby Green or J.Sicily trying to be as tough as his brother.. Which he ain't. Currently ranked 400 odd but take with a grain of salt if you think he's a keeper.

I'm_Eugene

Will he be a top 6 defender? If you think so then bring him in but if you don't think so bring in somebody that you think will be a top 6 def.

Booma

I don’t think they need to be top 6 defender at the end of the year.. You need to get in someone who is going to be a top 6 defender from this point onwards.. Kade Simpson may not end up a top 6 defender at the end of the year, but he will likely be a top scoring defender from now till seasons end. Good price now too.

Derek

Answer to KSinny

i wrote a reply and it needs to be approved. very annoying when that happens.

your team looks good.

The next thing to do is to decide who your next upgrade will be. take the byes into consideration.

it could be a juicy fallen premium like Laird or Simpson who you could get this week because of their low BE or it might be a Fyfe or Gray who still have a week or two before they bottom out.

It all depends on who your upgrade is.

Once you have that sorted, you get the calculator out and do some math.

Collins and Butters/Clark OUT can get you a Laird and a Rookie.

If your target is ready to get this week, you paint the fence, otherwise you might just hold this week and let them fatten a bit more.

TelescopicCox

What do I do with Jack Darling?

A – Hold since he's lost so much value already, and hope he comes good. I did the same with Billings last year which burned, but I still finished top 1k
B – Trade down to a rookie (Baker or Ross via DPP)
C – Trade up to Kelly – I have just enough in the bank to make this

HarryH76

I'm struggling between B and C. Yep I was the same with Billings last year. Job security with Baker is my only question as I'm leaning towards getting him in then Kelly next week who has a 117 BE this week with a rolling 39 in his 3 round avg.

I did an interesting exercise in listing my preferred gun mids. I had Danger, Boak, Heeney, Dunkley (all current), then either Kelly, De Goey, D Smith (if his form picks up). Even had Greene as an option for back half of year. As you can see, plenty in front of Darling. I can't hold him

KSinny

Trade up for sure

TelescopicCox

I'm leaning to C. I'm thinking of going to Laird since he's lost a ton of value too. Only problem is my FWD line will be very weak after the trade:

FWD: Danger Heeney Moore Drew Petruccelle Balta (Bines, Setterfield)

Nice_Person

Sicily
Or
Crisp & 80k for the bank

HarryH76

Sicily. Don't like him but he's a gun and very consistent. I had both last year and Crisp puts in shockers much more often

No idea

Sicily- smooth and high efficiency rate

Russty_

May as well get the flog in…he's doing pretty good so far.

Gen

Big flog! Hopefully gets a real hiding one day

Russty_

Mate, you don't need to take everything literally and or personally, which you seem to a lot.
My comment was tongue in cheek, I know he's a good player, he's earned his title as a flog from his own actions.
And I think we're doing fine without him in the Saints thanks.

Russty_

Whatever dude, I didn't have a go at anyone, you just perceived it that way, you obviously have no sense of humour and are overly sensitive with your precious Hawks, it wasn't about anyone's team, it was a lighthearted comment about Sicily the flog as he's known widely…get over it, I'm done with you.

Tommy

No offence hawk, but you jump on anyone who ever has a joke about Sicily or any hawk. Everybody calls Sicily a flog but that doesn’t mean he’s isn’t a star! He’s well on his way to AA this season. Clearly saints are doing fine without him, they beat you guys a week ago! Just need to chill out sometimes mate!

Tommy

Can’t blame you for defending your team, just the fact you turn a little joke into an argument is probably questionable. I think you should have a look at the outs that they had before making note of how undermanned the hawks were. No disrespect but hawks have beaten north and Adelaide… 2 teams that are struggling

Tommy

Mate it’s not as if russty made up the “flog” name for Sicily. If you were here a few years ago you would know that he has been called a flog in the podcasts! Rus hasn’t insulted you personally so there was no reason for you to!

Tommy

Mate once again getting offensive for no reason. Only reason I said anything is because I got banned for having the same argument with you. It’s irrelevant anyway, good luck with your supercoach

Tommy

It’s all good mate, I just assume the mod banned me for arguing with someone who actually has an account. Not a worry anyway, you’re a hawk I’m a cat, always going to differ in opinions!

Lekdog

Sicily is a flog, Hawk stop fighting people, Tommy make an intensedebate account.

Lekdog

Don't care, this isn't a free country, stop pissing people off.

Lekdog

And there it is. Cya mate

Tommy

Apologies thought you were meaning myself. Regardless it’s done anyway mate, all good! Good luck this week

Nice_Person

So Sicily?

Tommy

Yeah I’d go sic haha

Maverick_

yup sicily

Russty_

Sicily's a good player, even though he's a flog, he's a floggin good player……
I had him all last year too, even though he was still a flog…stepping on people's legs and shit.

Nice_Person

He has seemed to of toned down the flogginess this year

manolaki

Is it bad if we miss out on players like Ross and hold our trades for now?
How many premos should we look at having and trades left at this stage?

Derek

you have to wait and pick up the fallen premiums, they might take another week or so to be juicy ripe, but you need a little war chest to get them.

If you want Rocky or Walters, this week is the week, otherwise let the cash cows fatten a bit more. You can't have all the cows, but if you think there is one that needs to go and there is also one you want, cut his head off and build the war chest.

Derek

JR SURVIVOR GROUPS

the following teams went into this week with the immunity necklace:

Div 1 – Bennell 4 Brownlow
Div 2 – Dragonwolves Howl
Div 3 – Alaskan Firedragon
Div 4 – Doc Splodge
Div 5 – The Union

As per the rules of the competition, the two lowest weekly scores from each division are eliminated each week, unless you have immunity.

This weeks Eliminated teams are:

Div 1 – Fluffy Slippers & Browncows

Div 2 – Bellybuttonfluff & Half Witts

Div 3 – uDonkey & Athletico Dothraki

Div 4 – Red Bull FC & SuperBlues

Div 5 – Shiel Good Inc. & Mocha's Shockers

No one needed to use their Immunity necklace this week

I have removed the above teams from the game.

There were some good teams eliminated this week and the cutt off is getting higher every week, one poor score from here on could be the end of the game.

This weeks top scorers all have immunity this week, (i'm not playing, but i would have scored immunity in EVERY division this week)

Div 1 – EAGLE POWER (2303)
Div 2 – Ya hate to see it (2298)
Div 3 – itsCRASH (2286)
Div 4 – Potters FC (2281)
Div 5 – Stretch Marks (2308)

Good luck everyone

AuroraBorealis?!

Cheers for running this Derek. At what point will the divisions combine into one "super league"?

Derek

After the byes

Round 15 the champions league starts

Swoosh

This week I am going Sheed (had him from the start) to Henderson (hope he can keep it up) and Moore to Hore (Hore scores better and I bank $150). Could go Walters (don't trust him though) or Bont, but Henderson is a huge POD.

I am hanging onto Burgess. Hasn't made enough to trade and I don't think he will get picked this week anyway.

KSinny

I like the Henderson pick as he is a massive POD and seems to be really benefiting with no Titch in the side, lets just hope he can keep up the good form and he should be a great pick for your team!

TelescopicCox

Is he MID only? I remember having him years ago as a defender at the Crows. I really rate him as a POD pick

Gen

If you can get the bont, get him

Tommy

Henderson is cheap and killing it, I personally don’t think he keeps it up. If you can get bont I’d definitely be jumping on him!

GiveMeTheFyfe

Parker to Baker
OR
Scott to Ross
Looking to go from Collins to Crisp next week and need cash gen

Holty01

I like Baker as I think they will average similar but feel its more valuable using the scores in the forward line

Lekdog

Names are as hard as maths

Tommo09

Is any rookie a must have this week?

Pranav

with the news of cotchin missing a few more weeks potentially one of the richmond rookies. id say make sure you have a rookie to trade out for hately next week

TommyC99

I traded dusty out 2 weeks ago for Libba. Is it worth bringing dusty back in via an upgrade? Or do I have to cop it as punishment from the SC gods?

Derek

no rules about not getting him back. make your decision as if you didn't have him previously. if he looks the best option.

UpBeat

Something interesting community. Ryder2Gray is LEADING the comp, I just noticed he/she doesn't have big Max Gawn. I was contemplating this set up a few weeks ago and I'm now wondering what if !! Ryder2Gray has Reilly O'Brien as R2 but has recently moved Bines to Fwd along side Lycett. You gota riskit for the biskit !!!

Mick

Leading the comp now doesn’t get you anything. He’ll still have to trade Max in at some point and he doesn’t look like being less than $600k any time soon.

Stacky23

Is it worth trading Elliot Yeo, not really any mid options around his price jumping out and theres still the chance he bounces back, 27 trades 30k and team looks relatively good atm with a 2300 this week (however did trade gibbons to stack instead of scott to get Obrien 🙁
Hurn Crisp Williams Scrimshaw Duursma Hore (Clark, Burgess)
Cripps Macrae Crouch Coniglio Yeo Liberatore Walsh Constable (Stack, Scott, Atkins)
Grundy Gawn (Obrien)
Danger Kelly Heeney Drew Petrucelle Parker (Balta Setterfield)

dontblushbaby

T.Cotchin has had a setback,they looking at Round 8 at the earliest ,should be good news for Jack Ross

Russty_

Heard on the Radio today too, Riewoldt is a likely in this week, so someone's missing out in the fwd line.

Derek

I expect that would be Balta

DavidC

They need Balta for the 2nd ruck, they don't want Lynch or Riewoldt rucking. Whoever misses out will be unlucky.

Russty_

Oh really?..lol, didn't see it anywhere, just something about Cotch having a sweaty back 😉

Daniel

Got enough cash for burgess to worpedo, do I pull the pin and get him is he the real deal?

I’m still not convinced on many fwd premos

No idea

will Worpel be a top 10 forward at season end? Probably close at least, so I'd do it

Yeahnah

Lions website says Andrews is out for 1-2 weeks, worth trading him? Can afford any defender. Have Clark on the bench for cover

No idea

Wouldn't surprise if Clark is dropped this week- he looked tired last Sunday

Russty_

I'd keep Andrews, Clark could go out for Lockhart, if Clark gets dropped for Tuohy, at least he's playing.

Pranav

what time do the tigers team come out?

hedski

6.20 I reckon bud

Yeahnah

They're out now

Tommo76

Hey guys, would love some thoughts on my team right now. Had a decent week last week, scoring 2177.

28 trades left, 225k in the bank.

Hurn, Crisp, Williams, Scrimshaw, Duursma, Clark (Burgess, Hore)
Cripps, Macrae, Oliver, M Crouch, Libba, Walsh, Constable, Butters (Scott, Atkins, Gibbons)
Grundy, Gawn (O'Brien)
Danger, Heeney, Dunkley, Moore, Drew, Parker, (Petrucelle, Bines)

No trades really stick out to me at this stage, but i feel like i shouldnt keep 225k in the bank for a long period of time.
Could Grab Tkelly but round 13 bye is an issue (7 premos out) so could probably only afford 1 more max, which i feel i should reserve for Lloyd/Whitfield.

Thoughts would be great please guys!

Derek

Clark might have to go this week. Tuhoy will be back and it is time the lad got a rest. has a 43BE and yet to have a big score.

Although, if Hore goes well on Wednesday night, you might want to keep Clark as a donut, but won't know if he is named or not until Thursday.

there are a few premiums i'm keen on this week, all are Round 13 bye friendly. Defence: Laird $522k, Sicily $543k and Simpson $479k. All of them are close to their low price. You would need to paint the fence to get from Clark to one of them.

Midfield: Rocky is still only $450k. last week to get him cheap though. You can do one trade Butters to Rocky

Forwards: Boak $579k or Walters $513k. Trade out Parker and Clark/Butters will get you either.

CalebCripps922

i was gonna downgrade clark this week but no one to bring in. lockhart and rotham if named are on bubble but are risky

Tommo76

Thanks for responding Derek!
I have a few options. Hoping Jay Lockhart is named as he provides quite a few options DPP wise (would love def-mid swing)
I really like the look of Simmo or Laird, but i feel like fixing up my fwd line should be more of a priority, as bringing in a defense premo would mean id be benching Duursma or Hore as opposed to Parker of Petrucelle. Should i be worrying about that?

My main options that i can see (let me know if im missing anything) are:
1. Scott and Clark out for Simmo and Ross (fall 1k short of Laird)
2. Butters and Parker out Walters and Ross (again fall 1k short of Boak)
3. Butters and Clark out for Laird/Sicily and Ross

Feedback pls fellas!

Sam_01

Like option 3 tommo! Big on Sicily and laird is a great value pick right now!
I’ll be looking at flicking Clarke to baker via Moore
And bringing in rocky for B Scott only concern is it pushes Walsh to m8 feel like I’m wasting good rookie points on the bench

Derek

Cash generation is still very important

Unless you really want Rocky or Walters, who have very low BE’s, I would hold off another week and look to secure some more cash generators first

Tommo76

So you reckon none of the rookies are worth bringing in this week Derek? I was looking at Ross and Lockhart but JS looks ffy on both. Obviously would love to be bringing in a premo this week as ive ha a fairly average start to the year but the last thing we want are rookies who wont get a game in a few weeks time, and they havent made enough cash to warrant trading back out so youre stuck with them

Finnius

I agree and think you need to target forward upgrades to maximise points early on.

NoLanguage96

I like option 3 with Sicily. Bloke is a jet

Pistolas de España

Duursma proving quite valuable as a DPP work around last few weeks. Collins and Cousins on the block. Taking the risk with Ross and maybe upgrade to Macrae or the Bont. Hately and Fyfe/Neale next week. Hurn giving me nightmares too.

BlueBaggerJosh

Harris Andrews could be a nice cheap upgrade if he’s only out for a week or 2

Brett

28 trades left.

Think Parker is ready to go sadly. He just isnt making the $
Trading to baker to hopefully improve on field rookie scoring, and make a bit of cash too. Should give me enough to go one up one down next week and upgrade to a 500kish fwd.

Sound alright?

Brett

Ranked around 1500

Derek

who are your upgrade targets?

Sam_01

Yeh flick him, I can loophole him this week so he stays in my team for one more week
Trading Clark to baker instead via dpp

Levi

Parker to Baker this week surely?
If not is there anyone else on the horizon, or are we just stuck with Parker for the time?

TOPHAWK1

Now that Cotchin is still 3 weeks away, it might be time to cull Clark for Ross via DPP (Duursma) and raise some more cash. Yay or Nea?

Sam_01

I like it mate! Got me thinking if I could pull that trade haha but I don’t think my team is structured right

Yeahnah

I'd love to get him in, just none of my mid rookies are fat enough yet and don't have a DPP swing 🙁

Yeahnah

Thinking of going Clark and Burgess to Lockhart and Laird. Using Andrews as a loophole in defence until he returns

Maverick_

I really don't like lockharts JS but there really isn't much in the way of DEF rookies on the horizon so gotta do what ya gotta do.

Yeahnah

I think his JS is decent enough, I think they rate him pretty well down there. I'm more worried about his scoring potential as a small forward in a struggling team

Derek

$102k with DPP. Nice

KSinny

Think his JS might be alright with Jetta out for 8 weeks

Dash

Laird, Whitfield, D Moore, Collins, Scrimshaw, Duursma, Burgess, Clark,
Macrae, Cripps, Fyfe, Neale, Libba, Walsh, Butters, Constable, Scott, Atkins, Gibbons
Gawn, Grundy, Bines
Danger, Heeney, Boak, Drew, Parker, Petrucelle, Setterfield, Balta

146K Left

Just after any thoughts on trade options.
What trade(s) would you make this week. Cheers

Sam_01

Probably would look at bringing in one of the Richmond boys
Must be in the top 500 odd with the side you got there mate!

Dash

I'm not sure who to trade out and in?
Unfortunately only about 13000 rank

Maverick_

Burgess has to go Dash he has no forward swing so serving no purpose now his not making $$.
it gets tricky with little option for defenders and no DPP though but Lockhart has been named his JS may now be better with salem out though? hopefully someone with more of an idea can help with that

Maverick_

sorry John i mean neville Jetta

Sam_01

Probably only Scott to Ross or Parker to baker
Could even do both

Dash

They sound like fair trades. Not sure about Burgess to Lockhart, but could work

TOPHAWK1

Jay Lockhart is back for the Dees!!

TRIGGA_HAPPY

Welcome dusty!

Butters – Dusty just gotta pull the TRIGGA!

Maverick_

I'm looking at one more week trigg but i like it. sub 500k, delicious! BE of 111 so no urgency if he tons up v the dees it could potentially be moore/rozee to dusty for me. not rushing it though

Holty01

nice Trigga. Hope it works well for you. I just can’t see him being relevant. Hope I’m wrong for you though.

TOPHAWK1

Dusty can wait one more week. I have some other fish to fry. But if you can go Dusty this week then just go BANG!!

Maverick_

Has lockharts JS risen with jetta out for a couple months TH?

Derek

I would be more concerned about his back. That is why he has missed games

TOPHAWK1

Not touching Lockhart. He has been named which is exciting for coaches who own him. I don't own him. I do own a Hore though. LOL Cheers Mav!

TOPHAWK1

Brad Crouch straight switch to Dusty? Cost 20K 1 trade. Tasty!

FranklinSHow

you could spend $20k and move to T Kelly is you don't have him already. Then switch him to your fwd line at some stage at least then you can comfortably bring a player in who you know will end up at top 6-10 player across their line.

TRIGGA_HAPPY

Other option is rozee – heeney

Who scores more?

Dusty and Rozee
Or
Heeney and butters?

Maybe heeney this week and butters -hatley next week?

Ja191

Heeney and butters for mine

TOPHAWK1

Heeney and Butters.

Shake_n_bake

Holding Rozee for 1 more week Clark gone this week then Rozee will become Fyfe via dpp. Hope Fyfe drops another 15k welcome back.

TRIGGA_HAPPY

Word is rozee may be rested this week shake as he pulled up sore last game.

Shake_n_bake

Thats ok Trigg has a BE in the 70s so will go to the bench want to bring in Fyfe next week think he’ll fall another 10k to 15k this week. Rozee at least will keep his price.

Pana

This was brought up a month or so ago, but I just want to remind Patch to consider investing in a good microphone! And to perhaps deaden the sound in his recording area (are you in the bathroom?)… and for bonus points: some headphones where I can't hear Lek on a time delay?

Sorry to pile it on! You guys are really starting to hit your podcasting groove 🙂

Lekdog

I actually have no idea where that delay comes from…doesn't show up on the recording stuff just once we go to edit. Very frustrating.

KSinny

Thinking of maybe going Clarke to Lockhart then Collins to either Laird or Sicily but can't choose. Leaning toward Sicily seeing as I go for the Hawks and have no Hawks players, but I'm feeling like Laird will really lift with Milera out. Arghhh it's do hard to decide! Help me guys.

Derek

That’s what I was trying to post earlier, but it kept saying it need to be approved

I’m doing similar.

Originally thought Laird, but Sicily has a lower BE

KSinny

Yeh honestly can't really separate the two but have gone Sicily for now seeing as he has a lower BE and also plays for my team.

TommyC99

Who are you trading out to bring in Lockhart?

KSinny

Clarke

Hart_attack

Also having the laird and Sicily mind tussle,
Any thoughts on Simpson??? Dropped nearly 100k and scoring may have turned

KSinny

Not sure man, if he has turned his scoring around he is great value but u never know.

Hart_attack

Ranked top 1000 and looking to stay with the pack, Simpson could be a make or break
Sicily and laird are safer options tho

Browncow

Same dilemma KSinny. My gut tells me Sicily and logic tells me Laird. Then again I have Darling so my gut can’t be trusted.

Will

Which is the better trade?

Burgess > Lockhart
or
Parker > Baker?

Brett

Parker to baker on all accounts but cash gen. If you are looking for an on field option baker is your man imo

Brett

Burgess not worth the trade. Hope for a good game at some point. Might do a pettruc and kick a few

Derek

even Zac Dawson had a good game once

Russty_

Powell could be in for Burgess this week.

I'm_Eugene

LOL! it looks like everybody who traded Gibbons out early has traded him back in

Jacko

I cant believe that I am heavily considering this but please see me through and help me with this decision.

I currently have Gawn Goldy (O'Brien)
I believe that a Grundy/Gawn combo is a must have therefore this week I am contemplating trading Goldy to Bines (netting 420ish k). This added to my current war chest will leave me with 660k.
The difference between O'brien and Goldy average is 14 points a game. However next week I will be able to turn Parker into Kelly. And the following week Butters to Fyfe.
After a few rounds I will be hoping that Grundy will be around 600-620 and O'brien just shy of 400k.
The extra cash will then allow me to turn O'brien into Grundy.
I know this seems crazy but if o'brien can keep up his 85avg I believe that the difference in the points between him and Goldy will be greatly covered by the next weeks trades.

Would love the communities thoughts as to whether this is wise or disastrous.

I'm_Eugene

Do it, you should never have started Goldy because he wont make cash or score anywhere near as much as Grundy and Gawn. Correct the mistake now while you have the chance. Parker to Kelly will generate an extra 5o points which makes up for the few you lose from dumping hasbeen goldstien

Huzzah

I was considering something like this, but other moves took priority. I would've given it more thought had Adelaide played before North this round. Not to be though, and Goldy's actually doing pretty well. I am slightly concerned about his scoring potential this round though against Lycett, Ryder and a potential flogging. Tossing up putting O'Brien on field for him. He's got a decent run up until the byes though after this week.

Josh

Coming 2nd in one leage and 2nd last in anpther lol. Got 27 trades left and $233k in the bank and got
R. Laird, D. Rich Z. williams B. SmithJ. Scrimshaw X. Duursma,J. Clark,C. Burgess

P. Cripps, L. Neale, C. Oliver, D.Sheed, T. Liberatore, T. Rockliff, S. Walsh, J. Cousins, C. Constable,L. Davies-Uniacke,, B. Scott

B. Grundy,M. Gawn, B. Williams

P. Dangerfield, J. Billings, D. Moore, W. Drew, J. Petruccelle, M.Parker, W. Setterfield, N.balta

I'm thinking of going sheed to L. Baker through setterfield balta to T.kelly. Next week LDU to fyfe once he drops another 20k and maybe someone like a Scott to hately if he scores well again. Any advice would be handy

redherringfc

I think you’d be better off going early on Hatley than Baker.

Josh

Bakers going up this week and hately next week. And need another rookie that's going to make more than 30 playing

Josh

In my FWD

Finnius

Quite like this. Sheed has to go and its more important for you especially to get another forward premo and some slightly better rookies.

Josh

Yeh he's made my cash and not going to be in my top 8.. fyfe will fill his spot next week so won't loose out

Finnius

Thoughts on Worpel everyone? I'm looking at bringing him in this week. I think he could be a genuine top 6 forward. Elite for clearances, topping Hawthorn in centre bounce attendances and averaging 27 touches a game – if he can lift his disposal efficiency a little bit (which I think he can) could genuinely be averaging 100+. With not too many forwards putting their hands I think he's still a bargain at this price.

Tommy

Still cheap, as you said though he butchers it a bit. If you think he can improve that, and not tire out as the season progresses then jump on. Under 400k is a bargain

Maverick_

agree he is Still a very decent price Finn at 440k with a SC friendly role.
If his not top 6 definately top 8 and worth the punt in my opinion.
I like the look of daniel as a nice POD been very consistent and still a nice price of 480k.

Finnius

I picked him up in draft Mav. I'm only a little concerned that this half-back role is a little unsustainable as he keeps getting left as last man out in defence against blokes two foot taller than him. Prime mover out of that backline at the moment though.

Twilightingale

Would rather Greene at 350k then Worpel at 440k. At this stage will return this week

Mick

Why? Greene’s one score is lower than Worpel’s worst score. Plus Greene is made of cardboard. I’d rather a player he consistently scores 90-100 and plays each week than a guy who avgs 75 and misses half the season.

Twilightingale

Both will have a similar average imo, and having an extra 90k would make your next few upgrades easier.
Still feel Greene can average 85-90 which is value at his price. Most people happy with Brodie Smith who is providing that output at a similar starting price.

The Ranger

Only concern would be what happens when Burgoyne and Shiel come back into the team Fin?
Will his role change a bit?

Finnius

I think that they are more likely to force out players like Howe, Cousins etc. Burgoyne is also getting on a little bit and often plays that sweeping half back role with only a few bursts in the middle. Shiels is also more of an outside player so I think his role should be ok, although could be wrong.

Tommy

Already trading Collins to ross (via duursma).
Can’t decide on second trade.
Clark -> Lockhart
Or
Butters ->Rockliff
Or
Parker -> baker
Thoughts?

Tommy

?

Russty_

Butters to Rocky would work Tommy…probably won't get any cheaper than now.

Tommy

I’ve gone back and forth all day with it rus. Do you think he ends up being a top 10 mid?

Russty_

Not sure mate, he does have the ability to knock out monster scores for you though, whether he gets through the season or gets tagged in future is anyone's guess.

Tommy

haha yeah he is definitely not a safe pick, might have a gamble, that’s what this game is all about

Steeeve

I don't trust Lockhart's JS or scoring potential. But is Sam Collins almost done making money?

Brett

With jetta out he could have more js?

nankthetank

What do we think of Baker's JS from here on?

NoLanguage96

Wondering the same thing…

Maverick_

me too..
at that price i think i have to pass though

Big Dawg

hey boys could use a bit of help.

Is it even worth culling parker for baker even though we aren't making much $$?

Should I just hold trades? or dump off a cousins/scott/Butters for Ross?

Ja191

I really don’t rate baker at all. 21 and 17 disposals in two wins would not be surprised if he goes 50-60 from now on. I think Ross could be worth it or wait a week and pick up hately

Brett

21 touches in great for a rookie

Ja191

More looking at his Dreamtime scores of 64/74 gonna have to be very efficient to keep averaging 80-90

Brett

70ish scores would be fine

No idea

Hi Community
Is it too late to move on Marty Hore and /or Sidney Stack? I thought Hore in particular looked good and might have better JS than the Richmond bubble boys.

nankthetank

Hore maybe, if you're desperate for defensive rooks but consider it like this, would you have selected him at the start of the year if he was 200k?
Plenty of other midfield rookies so you've missed the boat with stack

No idea

Thanks- 2 good points

No idea

though only listed as 2-3 weeks away and surely Ross gets dropped then, if not earlier???

Russty_

Not surely I reckon, others could go out before him, especially if he makes the most of the next few weeks, he's proven he can get plenty of ball.

MidPricer

I have the cash to go Brayshaw to Neale. Not normally and advocate for trading premiums…but I can’t see Brayshaw being a top 10 midfield. Moving on?

Ktfg

I'm gonna get baker for burges and straight swap sheed to t kelly in the fwd, or Walters? What do you reckon

NoLanguage96

Like it. Kelly is the cheapest he will be

Rivo

With the early Tigers game, the popular downgrade to Ross & Baker seem sensible. But it is burning 2 trades for cash gen. Both have questionable JS.

Trading playing rooks with slow cash gen seems a waste to me. Winter is coming and so are the byes.

I was thinking Parker & Scott to Baker & Ross. Have 29 trades, ranked top 9% with low cash. Still unsure. Can anyone change my thinking?

Sam_01

Baker averaged 37 last season over 3 games he has an elevated price, with Cotchin to come back in he will get less mid minutes if he keeps his spot at all, Richmond have that many small forwards.. he isn’t Sam Walsh he won’t average over 90 Cotchin back in a week or two could see him be dropped or his average take a large hit

Rivo

Thanks Sam. Tend to agree. Can’t see Baker staying in that best 22 either.

CalebCripps922

Think Hayes And Hately will be better downgrade options next week.

Rivo

Agreed re next week, though Ross is the one I’m still pondering now.

Tiger

I’m a tigers supporter and yes they don’t have a lot of security. But tbh I’m feeling bullish about the both of them. Like any rookie they need to continue to play well to hold their spot. Cotchin being out helps and Jack Graham hasn’t being playing well and has been dropped. On a positive note Ross is an inside mid which I think we need and I read that in the last couple of weeks has had 7 clearances (equal highest) at Richmond. Baker played 3 games last year, so I’m expecting him to get a few more opportunities throughout the year. My only concern is he’s playing above himself atm. So it’s a Flip of the coin but I’m more likely to pick both and Hately next week. Hope this helps, cheers.

Rivo

Cheers Tiger.
I’m a mad Tiger supporter also, making the decision harder than it needs to be. Ross is the better of the 2 prospects for cash and JS. At least until Cotch returns. So my possible move could be Scott to Ross, pending team selections tonight.

Tiger

Agreed. Good luck🐯

Jimma

I’m not proud of it, but I feel burgess is just gonna sit on his price or even go down, and I’m trading him to baker, I only get 10k but with limited fwd rookies I feel your only gonna make 20-50k regardless of any downgrade. Having balta down there as well, I’m just gonna cop the trade, 27 trades left hope I’m safe

NoLanguage96

Need some help community.

I've used 5 trades already to cash in Parker/Butters and also fix a couple of correctives (Dusty, Greene zzz). I wanna dump Burgess but not sure if its worth the trade to Baker, particularly if Baker's JS isn't great. Other option is trading Clark as he seems ready to cull and swinging Burgess back into defence to re-open the swing wih Moore?

Trade or hold? If so which one?

Team below any other suggestions welcome, good luck for the week legends 🙂

B – Laird, Salem, Williams, Smith, Scrimshaw, Duursma (Ridley, Clark)
M – Cripps, Neale, Macrae, Oliver, Crouch, Libba, LDU, Constable (Atkins, Stack, Scott)
R – Gawn, Goldy (Sweet)
F – Danger, Heeney, Marshall, Moore, Drew, Pettrucelle (Setterfield, Burgess)

Redd

im about ready to pull the trigger on clark aswell straight downgrade to lockhart on the bubble seems the best option for me.

Lekdog

I'd go Clark out rather than Baker in

sick dog

LDU over walsh unlucky mate

Sunny Coast Blazers

Hey community heres my team as it stands the Sunny Coast Blazers sitting in top 8% and score top 2% last week in a low scoring round. Def: Hurn Crisp Williams Smith Duursma Hore Scrimshaw Clark Mid Cripps Neale Oliver Treloar Crouch Walsh Stack Scott Gibbons Constable Atkins Ruck: Grundy Nankervis Sweet Fwd: Danger Heeney Billings Dalhaus Drew Petrucelle Parker Setterfield Only trade I can see is Clark [be] 43 which is still achievable but will prbs only make another 20k over the next 2 weeks down to Lockhart. im stuck on what to do with setterfield and parker??? is setterfield long term injured? No great downgradews in the fwd line atm? Could look at upgrading Williams or dalhaus but both avg 90 sooo not sure if its nessacary atm got 200k and 28 trades any advice will be much appreciated!!!!!

Sam_01

setters copped a ban for a tackle and will be back, not a necessary trade, id probably hold till next week and target hayes and hately as safer options for rookie trade ins, I’d go Lockhart if you have an upgrade planned and can bench him, I’ve got him in this week to ride the pine and allowed me to get rocky, not sold on him though

Redd

Cheers sam yes will hold setterfield and im rockin lockhart on the pine also thanks for your reply mate

Russty_

Hi mate, Setterfield's suspended for one more week so probably hold.
You could go Clark to Lockhart or Scott to Ross this week and Nank to Gawn, you'll need Gawn there and Nank is hurting your scores.

Redd

Cheers Rusty yeh ive gone with Clark to Lockhart and Nank to Gawn appreciate the response mate

Russty_

No probs Redd, Lockhart's not a big scorer but hopefully he's only on your bench…You're stylin now with Grundy and Gawn.
Better than Nan's Crevice that's for sure.

Redd

Hahahaha yes and Maxy beat his BE with a 145 and Nans Crevice hahaha dished up a 59! Yes lockhart on the bench Hore n Duursmaa onfield sittin in the rop 4% time to push on!

Russty_

You're welcome mate, hopefully you have a big and badass year and smash everyone before you…keep it going mate!

Redd

Correction top 4% total score 11003!

sunny Coast Blazers

Sorry I just bought my first laptop yesterday and cant work out how to tab down to start a new line??? I'm basically computer illiterate. It was soo much easier typing from my phone hahahaha

Ja191

Hit enter and it should go to a new line

Redd

Cheers mate!

Redd

Nankervis to Gawn Z. Williams to Laird or Dalhaus to Kelly??????

Gen

dalhaus to kelly imo

Gen

*nank to gawn……
all not great tho imo