PODCAST | Game of Holding
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I tried. I tried really hard to make a Game of Thrones inspired podcast episode name, but like everything I do in life, I failed. It’s not great. So, instead, pretend Game of Bones or something is relevant to this week’s podcast.
We talk about HOLDING TRADES! Because that’s a thing you should do! And then because it would have been a boring (but easier to edit) podcast if we’d turned on the mics and said “hold your trades” and then stopped, we then talked about trades you could hypothetically make in the hypothetical world where you made trades.
But you won’t be making trades, right? Right? Haha, no-one would be making trades. Now look over there while I trade in secret.
So I am thinking about two trade options:
Butters to Stack- Dunkley to Heeney- 84k left
Hold Dunkley- Butters to Stack- Setterfield to Hore via DPP Burgess- 224k left to upgrade in next 2 weeks
Only downside is Parker, Burgess or Petruccelle have to be on field at F6
Heeney to miss this weekend………………
Didn't think that was confirmed yet, they're hoping he trains Thurs to prove his fitness, where did you hear that he'll miss?
He was supposed to be missing with his ankle last week too, and scored 130.
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This was my response to having my post deleted by the non-person “Administrator”..
Can't even see you comment in the website history mate, might ned to make an intense debate account so I can greenlight ya
Not sure what happened there Lazza… sometimes the autofilters pick up swear words or… I beleive there's some sort of spam filter as well? I don't know, I'm just the sound effects guy
I haven't listened yet… but I'm guessing from the title, that ummm…neither have u Glory!
Why hold? Dunkley has been terrible and Stack is a good pick up… Butters has been kicked out of Ports MID so his scoring will be crap now… time to cash in!
With ya there glory
Do you have Dunkley? I am still not sure what to do haha either upgrade around him or ditch him this week
No mate, i did the smart thing and traded Heeney out for Kelly instead
Yeah that would suck… Heeney is who I will trade in if I cut Dunkley this week. I traded Mundy for Kelly so that hurt also
I'd pull the trigger on that Glory, im double downgrading, building some ca$$$$$$$h
It's that or I double down also and hold Dunkley
Still reckon Ross is the better of the two rookies, but wouldn't disavow you for flicking Dunks
Fyfe out again this week.
Whered ya here that Lazza
It was a late news item on the Ch7 Talking Footy tonight … says his recovery is slower than expected…
Thought it would be, was a big double knock
Yup double knock. He won't be right even when he comes back. Sure he might score 100 but not a lot more
Yeah, it's nasty business. I remember a few years ago when Jonas knocked out Gaff – Gaff was off for a few weeks and wasn't right for the rest of the season.
Can’t trust talking footy lies, just been cleared by Ross the Boss to play! 🙂
Yeah what gives with that?…passed all his concussion tests and is locked in to play, hope he can beat Deboer's tag.
Thinking about going Butters to Stack and Parker to his teammate Marshall…
Is Marshall a possible forward keeper? Saw him play and was super impressed on Sunday
He is impressive for so little number of games… one thing for sure, Longer is no where near as good … it’s just his price …
He's got the second highest average after Danger. At this rate 400k is a bargain
Yeh, it’s just that I’m thinking of him in rookie terms … that could be a mistake …
His role seems very SC friendly. Clearances and not afraid to get his hands dirty
Gets a lot of contested possessions, marks, tackles and hitouts too NL, had a good showing against Essendon and the Hawks, beat McEvoy on several occasions in the hitouts.
Yeah I watched the game he was terrific. With the lack of FWD options I'm probably going to take a punt on him this week for Parker
Does he keep it up? At 400k you're bringing him in as a keeper. Is he a keeper? Based on his first three games he'll be a jet, but I've been fooled by three good games before
If Richo can't see what's right in front of his face Patchy…he's a bloody idiot, Marshall is twice as good as Longer ever was, Bruce can back up if need be, he ain't doing much else in the fwd line. Longer is a spud who should stay buried in the dirt.
All it takes is for him to be spooked by the idea of playing Bruce in the ruck if Marshall goes down and old mate's back in the side.
That said, I want him to be brilliant and fantastic. I want him to go well, and I think he probably will.
I've been wondering that too. He did look impressive, and today on SEN commentators were saying he may be the Saints number 1 ruck now.
I traded him in last week, but had to take the punt as my team is woefully underperforming.
If the Saints keep being as competitive as they have been to start the season, there’s hopefully not much reason to change the team.
Gee he was impressive on Sunday though. Some nice hit outs and those marks early in the final team…trouser stretching.
Correct Patch! Hold da trades!
Should we be looking at bringing in stack this week?
I am for Butters
With all this talk of butter and stacks, I’m for pancakes 🙂
It's a bad situation to be in rookie wise
1) All coaches have 1-2 shite rookies on the defensive or forward line.
2) All coaches have 3-4 shite cash generating rookies.
3) who is a safe rookie on the bubble?
4) who will you trade out? That balance of not culling a rookie that's only made 40-50k compared to a rookie that's made 100-120k is more important than ever so far by the looks of. High risk of leaving yourself with the absolute worst rookies on your bench just to get full premo this year.
You'll be full premo in a minute!
Probs won't have to trade out all the shite rookies as half our premos will get injured, it's the way of the supercoach world.
Way I'm thinking is… this year could prove to be the hardest to get full premo. We need to really asses cheap options moving forward. Might need to grab 2 guys who fall under 450k and call them premo
That's why I think Marshall is a good pick mate, even this week…scoring like a premo, priced like a Greene.
We do really need asses , otherwise pooping would be difficult 🙂
Agree. But everyone wants to get Whitfield and Neale.
Yeah I was contemplating Crisp to Whitfield but don’t think it’s worth the extra 120k. Whitfield starting to get more media attention so I’m hoping teams might start putting more work into him. And I know his BE is low but you’d think we are paying close to top dollar
I feel like this week's intro isn't getting enough (re: any) love. Someone please validate me
Pick Daniel rich pick Daniel pick Daniel rich 😍
I love it
What was that Patch✌️
HAHA I was laughing out loud Patch once i realised what the theme was humming along to, classic!
That singing sure was…something Patch , that's the best I can do 🙂
I'm very proud of you for your great intro son, im gonna put it right up on the fridge xx
You were at least the equal of Meatloaf.
So if Fyfe doesn’t play again, trade or hold?
Hold, Rivo
Yes Patch, I do hear the SC Gods, but what about Fyfe to Whitfield? Dumb move?
I’d find it near impossible to hold right now. He’s a gun no doubt about it, but that’s a lot of coin not bringing in any points and a lack of certainty about How quickly he gets back to his best on the field.
Yep it’s hurting. But that’s what you get with Fyfe, never plays a full season. If Scott plays I’m more likely to hold.
Thinking of bringing in Ross a week early to cover for Fyfe…bloody bummer Fyfe misses again though.
Trade. I went to Bont last week and like l said b4 to early in the season to really on rookies. I would have had to play Atkins last week and would have lost 60pts but most of all l would have lost 4 league games! Instead l only lost 1.
What is everyone's thoughts on Stack and Rotham? Are they must have rookies? I feel like both have worrying JS but lack of options and underperforming popular rookies makes it tempting to pull a double downgrade this week.
I reckon it'll be out of Stack and Ross to go when Cotch gets back, if Ross has another strong game, he'll keep his spot over Stack I think.
Stack can play more areas on the field over Ross
Stack is supremely talented and courageous. Wouldn't be surprised if they found a way to keep in him. I don't know much about Rotham, but that is a very good game to be dropped after.
He will not keep Jetta out. I also can’t see him keeping out Duggan. So it would have to be Cole who is dropped and he is a love child of the coaches. Cole appears to be a smart footballer who simply always follows team rules and the coaches love him.
Our best bet is for Rotham not to play this week and then one of Jetta, Cole or Duggan gets a 6 week injury and then we pick him up as a mid season downgrade.
It's a tricky one because all a butters, Parker, setterfield need is one 80pt game and they can easily make another 50-100k so is it worth offloading them now?
Might have to downgrade someone this week then Clark next week just to get Whitfield in. Bloody hell…. is a double downgrade for Whitfield worth it over painting the fence for a 500k premo (either defense or forward)
No, the cost of trades, early trading, etc outweigh a player at the peak of what he will cost.
I’ve got 2 underperforming forwards in Jack and Josh Dunkley who should I trade out of these two? Got 20k in the bank
Who should i be looking at getting in out of Gresham, Worpel, Walters, Billings, Jack Martin
Just stuck and would like some feedback !
Billings is the most certain. Jack Martin's the POD
Time for Settlefield to go. He’s not generating cash and he’s now out for 2. I’m thinking Hore looked the best of those on the bubble. There does appear a spot for him. Even though he was a late in he showed up several of his team mates. Surely May pushes out Frost before Hore?
May and Lewis will return soon.
Fair point, what about Rotham?
I traded Hore because the Demons didn't look near to playing him. Needed injuries, suspensions and eventually a late out to get in the team. But he played a good game. Might have moved up some spots. Wait for the teams.
Did anyone notice that Sheed and Redden swapped roles last week. Redden dropped out 145. Has me worried. It might be a horses for courses thing. Let’s hope they swap again this week and that’s Sheed’s score.
As you boys stated crisp has one game over 20 disposals where he had 32 and scored 132. If he hadn’t had that score his average would be so much lower. I have him…
Thinking of trading crisp to Marshall by swinging Moore back… is this a solid option?
I don't love this because your trading a risky pod in Crisp to a risky pod in Marshall. If you're moving Crisp I'd prefer it to be to a certain keeper.
I'll think this one over
Only if you have done any corrective trades at round 3 (29+ trades left). Else it’s a hold from me. We all need to have some resolve and stick fat with our teams and let the cows fatten. Otherwise, by years end you won’t have enough trades to become full premo.
DEF: Lloyd, Williams, Smith, Rozee, Duursma, clark ( Hore, Burgess)
MID: Cripps, Neale, Macrae, B.crouch, Libba, Rockliff, Walsh, Constable ( Atkins, Scott, Gibbons)
RUCK: Gawn, Grundy ( Bines)
FWD: DangerField, Heeney, Dunkley, Moore, Drew, SetterField ( Petruccelle, Parker)
Got $177,000 k In the bank
Any help Would be appreciated. 🙂
That team is 'Mint' – sorry, had to do it.
Only real concern is Dunkley. If you want, Kelly will soon be cheap. Might splash on Boak(?) or swing Rozee for a Hurn/Ryan/Whitfield
Mint how many trades left mate? I reckon HOLD.
27
Dunkley my concern also. Only $30k difference between him and Kelly atm but both will drop next week unless Dunkley scores 120.
Here are my options:
1. Butters > Stack, Setterfield > Marshall
2. Butters > Stack, B.Crouch > Neale (plus heaps of cash)
3. Butters > Stack, B.Smith > Whitfield
Thoughts?
Smith just scored 104 and has money to make (BE of 52) I'd be holding him for now
1.
Not sure how you can have heaps of cash with 2?
Must have a fair stockpile as I tried and would love to make that trade but are way short in funds.
Can i have your secret?
HAHAHA Trigga Happy you funny man….
Option 1
is it worth sideways trading setterfield to wilkie or sweet to obrien as a means of cash generation over next few weeks rather than having idle rookies, both Obrien and Wilkie have large negative breakevens
Butters to Stack?
I am doing it mate. Stacks JS just went up with Markov now going out injured. Butters may make a bit more but don't think he will go much more.
I think only 1 trade this week. The only rookie I’m currently not happy with is Burgess. 4 games in and has a very low ceiling. Although I have Parker and Scott, both have proved they can have a good game so another from them and their prices will go up. Setterfield out for 2 weeks but Carlton have 2 late games so will use him as a loophole. Rotham will come in for Burgess. Will give Stack a miss I think. That 40 in his rolling average hurts. If that 108 and 40 were the other way around might have changed my mind. Will wait on Ross and potentially Hinds to be on the bubble.
Hold those trades if you can community as it’s not much fun having no trades left with a few weeks to go especially during finals.
Would you hold Dunkley if you had him holty?
Thinking of Butters to Hore via Duursma and Dunkley to Heeney
Otherwise I am trading Butters as I don't see him gaining a lot more money as his role is FWD now and he may get dropped this week also
Markov out for 6-8 weeks. Job Security and Scoring Potential just went up for Stack!
Dunkley To Boak or Hold Dunkley?
I can't decide either… we either cut him this week or we have to hold until later
Rotham or Stack? Or both?
Stack better JS
Stack it up!!
I am reading alot about culling rookies.
I think we just need to chill.
Last week was the first week where they had an off week.
We can't expect your rooks to score 80 plus every week they r not all Sam Walsh.
60 – 70 is about all we can expect.
And 90% are delivering that. Most have only made $100k or less after 4 rounds. Is that really worth a trade?
My rooks are:
Scimshaw, Duursma. (Clarke, Hore)
Walsh, Constable, butters. (Setterfield, atkins, gibbons)
Rozee, Meirs, drew. (Parker, petruculli)
They r all going ok and with the exception of butters last round the field rooks scored around 60.
So doing their job. No need to cull.
Plenty of moo left.
Butters should bounce back he went ok first 3 rounds.
If i upgrade dunkley the only rook I would cut is parker as I think he will struggle to impact games going fwd against quality opposition.
Probably dpp setters to get two bites at the cherry fwd next couple of weeks.
A couple of slow burns in that lot. Chill.
So are you passing on stack trig?
Yep
That 100 disappears this week then start with a 40 next 3.
Will wait for hind who shoukd debut this week
Butters isn't playing MID anymore though and Port have WC this week. Are you trading Dunkley because I may go him to Heeney
+1 to Trigga. I said the same thing. The rookies will make more money and now is not the time
If it means I get rid of Billings 2.0 Dunkley to Heeney then I think it is worth it
Clark, Butters and Atkins are a chance not to play this weekend, add Setterfield and you will have to have Gibbons on field if you don't trade one of them.
Im looking at having both parker and petta/balta loopholef with setterfield on field this week.
Im taking that hit because no rookies have made enough yet to trade. I hate waiting but its right
Not saying there aren't situations where a trade is ok.
We have to all assess that ourselves.
But in general they are not ready to cull
Geez if there is that much carnage just about everyone will need to trade to avoid mmm donuts or gulp gibbons in deck.
I can see people getting rid of Setterfield if they are playing 3 rookies onfield in the midfield. Constable and Walsh are fine.
It’s that third one is causing some problems if it is between Setters, Drew, Atkins, Gibbons, Scott.
I can see Setterfield to Lockhart to provide a swing set to bring Duurmsa into the guts and put Hore on field in defence.
Having the Lockhart DPP and the Burges/Moore swing let’s you cover the three lines much better than the Drew/Setterfield swing set.
Or simply trade Setters to Hore via Duursma.
Settlers obvious one to trade because misses 2 weeks, but you can do any of them.
I have just 2 onfield rookies in the guts, so probably just hold this week
I did Butters to Hore via Duursma
A couple of them are cooked. Not trading guys that have had a role change or an injury is shooting yourself in the foot. Butters and Parker for mine
Guess we can only see how butters goes then.
Im tipping him to make a lot more $
Butters could struggle against west coast but will likely make his BE. Expecting him to go large against north
Parker got injured last week and spent a good deal of time off the ground and had no impact when he finally came back. Thought he did okay before he went off.
He did nothing before he was injured actually
Thoughts on jumping on Harris Andrews next week? Will be just over 400k
Do you care about the byes?
Along with Derek’s point, Andrews has a poor bye, shares it with the likes of Whitfield and Lloyd. If you don’t care about byes then I like it
Is it worth getting stack in at the expense of any of the stock midfield rookies. He is about to make a bit but feel its a bit early for all of my rookies (inc gibbons, scott, butters)
Butters if one of them. Playing FWD now so scoring might drop
Williams to Whitfield?
Or continue to hold Williams.
I’m starting to think Williams isn’t the keeper we were hoping he would be
He's only had one bad game so far, I'm sticking with him for now.
I'm gonna give him another shot
If post an sub score he may become heeney/boak.
Of course williams to whitfield is an improvement, but williams is good enough, and should be one of your last to upgrade.
We need rookies to rise so that we can be trading the likes of clark, setterfield, parker etc to premiums.
Thats how i see it anyway
Very tempting isn't it…. was thinking about upgrading Simpson or Williams to Whitfield, but I think HOLD.
Can probably only realistically expect an average of 85 to 90 for Williams so he'd probs have to be upgraded eventually anyway, need to see what's happening with all the potential rookie outs this week first though.
Atkins could make way for Guthrie, Clark for Touhy, Parker has a sore ankle, Butters could miss, Scott could stay rested, Setterfield missing 2 with suspension…carnage!
The top 6 defenders are starting to sort themselves out.
Lloyd, Whitfield, Hurn, Laird, Sicily, Stewart.
Those 6 seem to be above the rest.
Will see how Stewart goes when Touhy comes back, but why change what is working.
The idea would be to pick those 6 off at their lowest points.
Hurn will be my next upgrade in defence, that will give me the top three, after that Laird and that might have to do. B.Smith and Williams at D5 and D6 will most probably be there till near the end, since I am light on in the midfield.
Hold
If you have Dunkley what do u do. Have gone Butters to stack;
Do I go Dunkley to Boak but costs about 100k
Do I go Dunkley to Libba as reckon he could be top 10mid and wait for another’s genuine top 6 forward to appear.
Do I hold Dunkley but will drop about 15k more this week?
Cheers Community
I'm holding, as much as I would like to trade him, will just have to accept the 70-90 scores for now, while I concentrate on my rookies.
dunkley to boak for me a BE of 58 he will be near 590k after this week and nearing impossible to get without breaking the bank
Hold
Déjà vu. Did we have the same discussion last year about Billings?
I wonder how many Dunkley owners had Billings last year?
I did and I traded him early before he dropped in price too much.
Agreed Derek. He is the Billings of this year and I sat through that last year so not again!
I think the time to trade Dunkley out was last week, he's lost most of his value already, so might as well hold, he could still be a handy F6.
Considering Dunkley to Rocky via dpp at the moment but fwd rookies suck so bad and scared rocky will cop a tag, dunkman does have the blues this week tho
He may have the Blues but does he get MID time? Bont, MacRae, Libba, Wallis etc etc all getting a go before him
Dunkley is playing the blues this week. It is his last chance in my side. If he can’t score against the blues he doesn’t have hope
Not taking the risk haha Heeney welcome 👍
Heeney is doubtful for this weekend.
Why I am waiting. If Heeney doesn't play then Boak or someone else
Boak seems a better bet, at least you can be sure where he will be playing.
Dunkley to Boak or Marshall?
Boak.
Zaha out for bombers
They will miss him
With all this non-trade talk, still think my forward line needs a bit of work with all those wookies. $250k in the bank and 27 trades left.
DEF: Whitfield, Hurn, Collins, Scrimshaw, Duursma, J Clark (Ridley, Burgess)
MID: Cripps, Macrae, Oliver, Z Merrett, Coniglio, Libba, Walsh, Constable (Butters, Drew, B Scott)
RUC: Grundy, Gawn (Clarke)
FWD: Danger, T Kelly, Moore, Parker, Setterfield, Petrucelle (Schultz, Brander)
Suggestions where to improve with the hope of getting Neale in soon.
If Butters isn't on field you could cull him to Stack this week for sure.
Thanks Glory.
Any thoughts on Parker or Setterfield, or leave them for now and save trades?
Setterfield will be back after 2 weeks, use as loophole for now to get best score from rookies in FWD. Hold Parker until a FWD rookie shows haha because there is none for now
You weren't joking about your fwd line, I would be Downgrading Butters or Scott for Stack and upgrade one of your fwd rookies to a premo.
Hey Guys I’m a bit stuck on what to do with my team this week. A screw up with emergencies cost me 150 points with O’Meara and Scott not playing.
I know Stack is available but I’m not sure who to trade out and I also think Setterfield may need to go.
I have 27 trades and 44k left. What do I do?
Def: Lloyd Whitfield Moore Smith Clark Duursma (Scrimshaw Hore)
Mid: Cripps Fyfe Bont Neale O’Meara Walsh Constable Scott (Atkins Butters Gibbons)
Ruc: Grundy Gawn (Sweet)
Fwd: Danger Heeney Petracca Setterfield Drew Parker (Petruccelle Balta)
Thanks
You have a lot of problems with some of your rookies,Clark, Scott, Atkins, Butters, Parker are all doubtful for the weekend plus Setterfield being out for two weeks. I would be trading either Scott or Butters for Stack, which will cover your mids, you really don't want Gibbons on the field, and hope that Parker gets up for your fwd line, since I don't think you want both Petruccelle and Balta on field.
Scott and Setterfield OUT
Stack and Rotham IN
???
I see where you are coming from, move Moore fwd for Setterfield, bring in Rotham and Scott for Stack, so you don't have to maybe have Gibbons on the field. My only worry is Rotham's JS is supposed to be weak, one of the reasons I've held off from trading him in for Clark.
Ahhh ok who would you suggest instead?
I'd be getting Butters out and probably Balta he's a dead weight. Stack in, maybe Rotham
Butter > Stack
Setterfield > Boak
Would still leave me with 27 trades. Thoughts?
Yes do it.
That's what trades are for. Seems like sound logic to me.
Who would you get in
Bont or Zach Merrett?
Merrett, but I’m a bombers fan.
I have Merrett but would love the bont, playing in the guts instead of forward. Both will be top 10 mids
Bont..
English to Mumford? A waste of a trade? Will Mummy be rested? Do I just have to live with my decision to start English and wait to get to Gawn?
Cheers in advance.
Trades are valuable, however most folks think that cash gen is hard to come by this year. If you think Mumford will either be a keeper, or generate 150k+ in comparison to English, then go for it I reckon
Mummy will miss games so it is a risk. You could put O'Brian at R3 and play him ahead of English, he is on the bubble.
Fyfe playing says Ross the Boss
Whom is more likely to be a keeper out of Rocky and Libba?
I have both, Rocky imo, however Libba could be M8 or M9, some will say otherwise
At this rate they both could be, but only if you have them already. I would get Libba in now if you didn’t start him.
Missed the boat on Libba imo, I also didn't start him… But not sure he can keep up this average, Rocky I believe can keep a 110 average just injuries a concern, but hold off for a week, might get a Hutchings tag
Out of those two it would have to be Rocky.
Anyone not trading this week? If I hold I would have spent 1 trade in 5 weeks, which doesn’t seem right lol. It’s hard because I want to trade seeing as my rank is less than ideal, but I don’t wanna fall too far behind. Just gotta trust the process I guess
Good problems to have Tommy, looks you made some good starting choices, trades are power at the back end of the season as many guys will be running short or have already run out come finals time.
Cheers russty. Every year I’m one of those people who run out of trades so would be nice to change t up a bit. I’m not all that unhappy about my side either. Crisp and Dunkley been a bit underwhelming and I started dusty but I’ve just had a couple of really poor Premo scores each week which has cost me rank. Not starting Lloyd or Whitfield hurts but gotta live with not getting their huge scores until they drop I guess!
Don’t worry about rank too much, how many points are you behind the 1,000th rank?
About 400
Focus on that more than your rank. Next week aim to be closer.
Should i get rid of dunkley have 177k in the bank and have 27 trades left
I'm holding, plays Carlton this week, if he doesn't pickup his form trade him to a cheap Menegola/Kelly in a few weeks
Can't do that. Already have Kelly and Danger.. do not need another geelong player haha. Dunkley to Daniel or Heeney this week for me
Worpel or Marshall? I know we’ve been instructed to hold trades but these rookies need to go ASAP and rozee will go this week for one of these two!
Any chance Liam Baker will hold his spot?
Scored 91 last week and could be a good swap for setterfield?
I think we need to wait for him to be on the bubble brn. Can you use Setterfield as a loophole?
Yeah am using setters as loophole but was after some mote info on him
Yeh, risky. Martin to come back this week probably for Menadue. Houli a chance as well, don't know who will go out for him. Then Jack is back next week and probably Cotchin the week after. He did enough to be named for the next game but after that I don't know.
I need a forward. Heeney is too expensive, Worpel is too heavily owned, I’ve already got Marshall, I’m having a horrid start, bugger it I’m bringing in buddy….I reckon he turned the corner last week
Buddy always eventually ends up in my team every year. Look to get him at a good price. I have some round 12 bye issues, get him later.
Yeah me too, can’t see him averaging less than 95 for the remainder of the season so already represents value for mine @ 450k. Plus I need a pod….. and the money saved as opposed to a heeney let’s me consider Williams/smith/Moore to a bottomed our Tim kelly in a week or two….
Billings?
Started him
Any tips. After finishing top 1000 last year I'm at 26K. Last year I nailed my starting team but this year has been a huge miss:
30 trades and 9k bank
B – Lloyd Crisp Williams Duursma Clark Hore (Wilkie Burgess)
M – Macrae Cripps Cogs Treloar M.Crouch Walsh Constable Butters (Atkins Scott Gibbons)
R – Grundy Gawn (Bines)
F – Danger Heeney Darling Moore Drew Setterfield (Petruccelle Balta)
I"m looking at a reshuffle with Treloar to Rocky but I don't like trading premos sideways.
Thoughts?
Too early to be sideways trading at the premo end I reckon.
But I’m tempted to move Burgess and Balta on this week for cash generation purposes. I know only one good score will get them going but it hasn’t happened yet. I’m contemplating stack and rotham.
Move on Darling, too many down games, either straight to Marshall or trade butters to stack and Darling to Boak. Treloar will end up doing OK
Very similar team to mine, and I’m 8400. Biggest difference is the backline. Williams isn’t going to be a keeper, so if you can make some cash somewhere upgrading him to a premium would be good.
I’m in a similar position, was top 100 throughout last year and ended up just outside the top 1000, now I’m at 28k. Just have to hold fast with the premos and hope it turns around
Setterfield a really handy loophole option. across the forward and midfield lines, I can essentially pick the best score of drew/butters or roll the dice on constable…..
Agreed!
Yep. When I went Mundy to Sloane I had go give up that swing.
I am interested in Lockhart to create a Def/mid swing
30 Trades Left and 24K
Dunkley to Boak
Butters to Stack
Thoughts?
I’m thinking similar but does Hutchings go to rocky or boak
I would’ve thought hutchings would go to Rocky given past results on struggling with the tag
Sound like good trades, Dunkley will frustrate all year unless other midfield injuries get him in there
I had Billings last year too so I know the feeling
Braydon Preuss just running some laps at Melbourne training not training with the main group
Hey lads
Gone LDU/Butters to Yeo/Stack. Yeo's at a dirt cheap price which is why im getting on him now but should I be looking to accumulate some more cash at this point of the season?
just check your byes. Eagles have same bye round as Cats, swans, pies, melb, lions.
Great point, Ill reassess my options
JR SURVIVOR GROUPS
the following teams went into week three with the immunity necklace:
Div 1 – Creamy Tune Mornay
Div 2 – Hall of Fame
Div 3 – Kick it to me @SCT
Div 4 – PottersFC
Div 5 – Jaeger O'Kneera
As per the rules of the competition, the two lowest weekly scores from each division are eliminated each week, unless you have immunity.
This weeks Eliminated teams are:
Div 1 – CtrAltDeledio & The Woodsmen
Div 2 – Magic & Shannon Gurn
Div 3 – 7 Reasons Why & Borisbumblebees
Div 4 – The Fyfe Awakens & Champs
Div 5 – Andy's Warriors & neale before him
No one needed to use their Immunity necklace this week
I have removed the above teams from the game.
This weeks top scorers all have immunity this week, and as you saw from last week, this can be vital.
Div 1 – Bennell 4 Brownlow (2339)
Div 2 – Dragonwolves Howl (2310)
Div 3 – Alaskan Firedragon (2346)
Div 4 – Doc Splodge (2269)
Div 5 – The Union (2316)
There were some good players who were eliminated this week.
Good luck everyone
Sad to see Trigg depart
There were some good ranked players go this week, some by just a point or two.
Can trade butters (BE 48) to stack, which i think ill do.
DO i follow it up with Setterfield to Worpel? Can just afford him.. no one more expensive than 431k.
Also have moore DPP swap to bring in a backline option but dont really like many at that price.
Suggestions ?
Midpricers such as Libba and Walsh are still going to make another 130 k pretty much the same as Stack Rotham and Lockhard but will score much better and have a whole lot better J S makes you wonder whether they are better
Rotham probably won't make a dollar mate, can't see him breaking into the side without an injury.
I might be in the minority but I see Walsh as being a keeper for a M9 at the business end of the season.
Very handy to have that midfield emergency cover when sides rest players or 'manage' players when they are out of finals contention.
Going to sit on my trades this week. This is the week I can do it. Many rooks still a week away from going on the bubble. Not sure on Stack after his 40 last week. All my rooks still have low BE's and after 4 huge trades over the last 3 weeks and getting in Fyfe, Mumford, Libba and Whitfield, my team is settled for now. I am going to take this opportunity to watch the lambs fatten, watch which rooks look good going on the bubble this week and hope Joshua Corbett is named for Gold Coast. This kid is good. Hopefully still 26 trades going into round 6. Projected to go 2230 this round. 2 trades saved are two trades earned!! Cheers community.
Yes agreeToppa The batch of bubble rookies is not solid and J S scares me Stack Rotham and Lockhard not that great.
Same here Toppa, not had a great start to the year but as Crouching once said…"dog that chase car get exhausted".
I always refer back to the Jock Reynolds book of wisdom a few years back that advocated something like…
Two or three correctives (R1 -3)
Five up and downs (R7-11)
Triple downgrade (R12-13)
Triple upgrade (R13 -14)
..it's never precise but aiming for something along those lines is good advice IMO.
Stack will score well if played in denfence. Was played forward in the first half on the weekend and was then moved back in the second half and scored 40 odd points
What do people think of Dunkley to Daniel?
JJ will have an effect on Daniels. I noticed it last week and it will be greater once JJ gets match fitness
Didn't JJ play at the end of last year?
Daniel didn’t play this same role as last year
He did last 5 games of last year and scored very well
Seems like Daniel is the dogs player of choice in bringing the ball out of the back half and as so i expect he will continue to rack up possessions even with JJ back in the side, the more worrying question is if he keeps getting caught on bigger opponents in the goal square is if bevo decides to change his role, right now looks a good pod and will be watching closely.
Is this silly:
Goldy -> Mummy
Setterfield -> Marshall
Don't trade Goldy. He is playing well and Marshall is still unknown
Marshall trade seems ok, don't trade Goldy he's playing good footy
Yes, very silly
Trading Setterfield. Choices are:
Marshall
Caleb Daniel
Billings
Gresham
Walters
Worpel
Please put in order of preference
none of them are in my best 6 forwards
it i had to i would say Walters, but i worry about his injury history
I'd have the 3 St.Kilda boys top3. Billings more safe, Marshall high risk-high reward & Gresham should continue to score similar. Too many question marks over the rest
Sometimes you have to be careful what you wish for
I was tempted to trade in Lycett after round 2 to give me ruck insurance, thought I could wait a few weeks and maybe pick up the Hoff a bit cheaper than his starting price, happy if he dropped to $450ish.
After this week we will be looking at the Hoff UNDER $400k
How cheap does he need to get to be tempted.
What is Ruck cover worth?
Has the round 12 bye.
I haven’t watched any Port games, by the sounds of it I wouldn’t have seen the Hoff anyways, but I’ll be keeping an eye on him to see if there is any signs of life.
I was really targeting Hoff/lycett in pre season for the bye coverage. Hoff change of role is no good. Is he playing as a talk forward which is why we have seen so just fluctuation? Ideally would rather just get lycett but is the extra spend worth it?
there is also lobb at fremantle.
looks like he has the #1 Ruck as his.
103 on weekend.
Ryder will probably get injured soon, good to target him then the forward role hurting his scoring
He's been playing forward with Dixon out. Need Dixon or Marshall to come back into the side to free up Hoff to roam upfield. His scoring should improve then.
thanks david
Is being able to VC Gawn instead of Grundy worth giving up the opportunity to loop petrucelle and Parker? If I use setters as C means I can’t loop the rookies, whereas if I use bines C and VC Grundy, I can loop petrucelle and see how he goes
Grundy will find it tough this week
Balta, Butters or Scott for Stack? Will likely get Ross/Baker next week.
Heeney out 🤔
Swans have said Heeney is expected to train tomorrow and play Saturday
Hope so
That's a big out Shake Thinking of bringing him in too
Parker out 🤔
Source???
How do you know Shake?…teams haven't been announced yet.
Could you include a source when you make these announcements mate?
People were saying Fyfe was out this week too but he's not.
On the Saints web site but knew before they put it on still struggling with an ankle and has to get thru training to even be considered
Cheers Shake, spose I should check my own team's website lol
Their physio said he rolled his ankle so could just be a minor sprain, fingers crossed.
With Stevens and Hind in the mix l could see a couple of changes at this week at the saints.
Yeah Geary and Steven come back in, even talk of Longer coming in to support Marshall against Gawn and preuss, could be bad for Marshall owners.
Pruess only running laps so not a certainty. Hows Motlop being dropped
Goodwin said he was "pretty confident", Preuss would play this week.
Traded him to Marshall so if its true perfect
Not if Longer plays.
They'd be crazy to bring Longer in he's rubbish
Very left field play but what do people think of trading out gawn for ROB? Sauce finds out on thursday if he will be missing another 4+ weeks ao JS would be very solid and is the #1 ruck whos scoring well for a rook.
This would free up 550k meaning you could trade a gibbons to neale or clark to whitfield and cash in 150k
Its definitely left field, but I actually don’t mind the risk. Massive risk but also massive reward. Essentially switching premos across lines and landing a better rookie
I was actually discussing this with Lekdog.
I'm going gawn to ROB, and parker/setters/drew to boak/rocky or even tom Stewart.
Haven't decided which spud to bake yet!
How do you then afford to get a premium top 2 ruck back in when O'brien loses his job, or starts scoring 60's every week while he's still playing? I guess if Jacobs is out for several weeks O'brien appreciates to around 350-400k?
Can't see you keeping that extra money there to bring Gawn/Grundy back in when O'brien's done, you'll spend it on someone else probably.
I’ve got English at r2 so O’Brien becomes attractive, was going to be the mummy but now I’m starting to think maybe ROB
English to O'Brien I can fully understand if Jacobs is out for another 4 or so, English is pretty useless mate. Should've done a lot better but obviously isn't ready to yet.
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Setterfield to O’Brien via DPP. Worth it or not?
Greenwood not named but we knew that. We will back our mids to go head to head
Greenwood not named and my man crush neale to get 45 touches and 3 brownlow votes
Put it this way, I know whom will be my VC this week!
Neale the real deal will make a tasty Thursday night meal! VC to the bank $$$
Butters and Dunkley to Stack and Boak
OR
Constable and Williams to Stack and Whitfield
Thoughts community? Who out of Whitfield and Boak should be the priority?
Definitely do not trade constable yet
Worth trading Setterfield to ROB via dpp if Jacobs is out for >4 weeks?
I am very tempted to do it. I have Setterfield, Balta, Bines, and Burgess. Potentially all of these guys could be loophole options this week. Burgess could be the casualty if Corbett is named tomorrow. I also have Shane Mumford. ROB could be nice back up just in case Mummy decided to bash someone or gets injured again.
I was keen on upgrading to Mundy, but now thinking Billings ? thoughts please ? both should be top 8 FWD's imo ?
Before Fyfe was injured, Mundy was averaging about 64% TOG.
Last week it was over 85% TOG
Fyfe is back.
Wait to see what they do with Mundy.
He might have another good score this week if Fyfe gets tag.
Billings is (I never thought I'd say this) safer.
Mundy has been a warrior, but he's 34. Yes, he scored 150 last week but that was a derby played like an old fashioned footy match. There must be question marks on him in a more fast-paced modern day game, as pointed out he only played 64% tog up until last week. Why was that?
Only risk I see with Billings would be if Jack Steven & Dan Hanerbry get back to their best, does that push Billings forward? Less of a risk though
Good point, I would back the younger guy in, Billings is actually looking kinda solid this year so far!…who-da thunk it?
Steven will be back this week but I think he's still struggling with his mental health, not good for Supercoach, and Hannebery is a write off, might not play this year.
Billings on the wing seems to be working out for him ok.
is Bines too Reilly O'Brien crazy He looks to have the #1 spot for 6 weeks atleast should be able to make 200k in that time?
negatives are it'll cost two trades one in one out.. worth it?
That trade is just for cash, or the chance your other rucks get injured.
To make the cash you need to trade again.
Most people work on a $150k+ for 1 trade. You would need to make $300k+ to justify 2 trades.
Nah
You will need 2 trades for anyone -Stack and Rotham will still need to be traded out as well Derek
Have Mumford. That means possibly two RUCK bubble boys this week if I name O'Brien in the Tophawks side. Mummy is getting plenty of points and cash. With Setterfield out for 2, he can turn into O'Brien via DPP.
Why not?
One trade, two ruck bubble boys, ruck insurance, plenty of cash generation, and Jacobs out next week and possibly more. Sounds like a pretty good trade to me.
Was about to suggest the same things TH regarding setters if not named.. trade setterfield swing bines fwd and grab O’Brien and keep ya loophole while trading a rookie who was about ready to axe anyway.. win win! Once O’Brien’s made his $$$ trade him, swing bines back and grab a forward.
Hey Mav, TH, yeah sounds like a good deal, for Setters, he's suspended for 2 weeks btw Mav.
When you trade in Mumford in round 2 and the gamble works out, there is nothing wrong with getting insurance! Thanks again for the ROB tip-off Russty.
No worries bud, still gotta wait for Jacobs' prognosis though, can't see Setters making all that much more money if we held onto him for 2 weeks so, no big loss there.
I reckon Jacobs will opt for the surgery on his Meniscus, which means between 4 to 8 weeks apparently, otherwise they said he's a "week to week prospect".
Dunno if I'd trade Bines to O'Brien, then you lose your patsy/loophole.
Oh yes I actually had Parker there first then changed my mind to setters and forgot to delete the “if not named” part, I should of proof read haha
I know on the pod you fellas said to hold Clarry but what if I can go to Neale with 1 trade?
The only other option is Constable to Rotham and Williams to Neale.
I'm aware it's early on Constable but I'm agonizingly short with Butters and I want Neale as my opponent this week has him.
So please community. Option 1, Option 2 or risk the league loss and hold?
Hey Dan, I wouldn't advise trading Constable out or Rotham in, or Oliver out but if you really want Neale, option 1.
Its a long season , I would not be trading Oliver or Constable , HOLD imo mate
Hold man. Oliver will punch out a 140 as soon as you trade him.
At the start of the year most would have said Oliver & Neale are on par, or Oliver slightly ahead…fair call? What's changed in 4 games of football?
That trade actually costs you cash and could leave you with a negative points gain…..and I haven't even got to Constable yet
I’m eyeing off Oliver as my first upgrade! Don’t do it
Hold I will. Gotta constantly remind myself it is a marathon not a sprint. Thanks fellas.
Don't trade Oliver. Melb will improve and he or Gawn will get the big scores for them
I have a lot of scenarios with 230k to spend, now I am thinking – B.Crouch to L.Neale- also have Macrae, Cripps ,Fyfe, Libba ,Walsh ,Constable
However there is talk of some popular players being injured, dropped ect
Anyway it is healthy to have plan A,B,C ect
Absolutely. If you fail to plan, then you plan to fail. You have no reason to trade this week mate. Looking good.
Hi DBB I think you're thinking about B.Crouch how I was thinking about Brayshaw last week, (what if he's not a keeper and ends up averaging 95 or less ?)
I decided to punt Brayshaw last week while he was averaging 107, purely cause I wanted Neale in there…done, no more guessing.
It hurts less if you do it quick, and Brayshaw gets 89 and Neale gets 140 that week lol.
Neale in would make your midfield uber.
Cheers Rusty,yes agree, good move last week, just need to see how the teams drop tomorrow
11.1% of teams jumping off butters and that’s fine. I guess 90% are going stack or Ross again probably fair enough I’m not going to talk you out of that.. BUT consider this what about butters to Reily O’Brien? Better JS for 4+ weeks potentially longer yet, a nice avg and a nice fixture upcoming. Not everyone can make this happen but if you have the DPP to allow it its well worth considering! If Ross looks the goods after his 2nd game jump on him then. 🙂
O'Brien the clear number 1 rookie option this week. No 1 ruck for the next month and represents the best scoring potential. Sauce out 4-6 weeks so you'll have 4-6 weeks of price rises from ROB before he makes way. If Jacobs has a slow recovery and returns post bye, would be perfect for supercoach to have ruck cover for round 13.
If Stack can retain his spot with Houli returning I'll be more interested, and his 100 only affects 1 price change, if he goes back to back 40's his cash generation would be nice and slow like a lot of other rookies.
Would need to wait until next week to evaluate Ross.
Rotham has performed well but looks to rely on injuries to get games.
Hore still has the same pre season concern that he gets dropped for May, even though he played great vs Sydney.
O’brien doesn’t have the DPP. Unless a person is running a suspect R2, I see no point in this trade. Yes, he will generate cash, but the biggest priority I think is to get these spud rookies off the field. O’brien will not achieve this as yes he will generate cash, but you won’t be able to take his scores ( replace the spud rookie scores). Again, unless a person is running a suspect R2, I see no point in this trade.
Most will have a ruck/forward R3 such as bines. Move him to the forward line to trade a ruck in
Stack could punch out another ton. Have to forgive second up run
Should I trade Butter or Setterfield to Stack
Butters could make money while Setterfield is suspended
Who will make the most money over the next 5 rounds?
Nobody knows. My guess is butters will make the most. Not concerned about him playing fwd- he will still make cash
As a Rocky owner I'm not expecting much this week. Will get tagged by Hutchings
Depends on how much his team-mates help him out Ben, may need some rough-house tactics.
Might go to Boak
So I need some help.
Vote Yes or No whether I should trade Dunkley.
Cheers!
No
No
Yes
Idk
No, but it also depends who to if you did.
No
Yes
im Going to wait until the Panic Room and team announced before I panic, but they say 11 days is a long time in SuperCoach.
we now have 10 of the next 11 days where there will be at least one AFL game being played.
There will be thrills and there will be spills, there will be snags and there will be tags.
Thanks Fellas and good luck
Pretty sure Barron Von Crow talked up O'Brien as a r3 in the off season as he didn't see Jacobs playing every game. If so, well played Mr BVC
He called knee surgery before the season? Great call
Is it silly trading out Sweet for O'Brien and Butters for Stack this week? I would have 25 trades left after that.
Good trades J Dog, wait for team selections for Stack but he should be in.
Not the silliest idea
I'm seriously considering these trades too 🙂
Jacobs had surgery on his knee. Maybe 6 weeks out
Yeah 4 – 6, but then he has to build his fitness up again..could even be longer, great JS for O'Brien.
My shark move plans may pay off 😂
ROB really comes into it now. He seems to be the only cheap rookie right now who seems to have any job security.
No brainer to get him in just who to axe. Setterfield, Burgess or butters my options . I think butters still has $$ to make though
Love a few peoples thoughts if possible if you can spare a minute. I've got the odd opinion but this has been doing my head in!
Neale IN Leaves my weakest Mid is Constable, weakest D is Clark and weakest F is Parker/Petrucelle.
Whitfield IN Leaves my weakest Mid is Duurmsa, Hore weakest D and Parker/Petrucelle as my F6
Heeney/Boak (which 1 if this IN) leaves Butters/Stack/Scott/Atkins as weakest Mid, Hore weakest D , and Drew as my F6
Hey mate, I think just get the one you want most, quite a few of those rookies could be out this week anyway, so we might have to think about that first. Need to wait for team announcements later today.
Thoughts on trading Shultz and Gibbons, sliding Bines to forward then trading in O'Reilly and Stack?
Sounds good to me.
Sorry trade Gibbons and Bines for O'Reilly and Stack?
Any thoughts on Parker to Kieren Jack? Getting plenty of midfield minutes and good price, but, injury prone and consistency.
Greetings Community
Trade options this week:
1. D Smith to Libba, Kelly or Marshall and downgrade one of the following – McKay (NM), Burgess, Gibbons or Parker.
2. Keep Smith and trade two of the following – McKay (NM), Burgess, Gibbons or Parker.
3. HOLD
Any advice or assistance much appreciated.
Lloyd, Whitfield, Smith
Collins, Duursma, Clark
(Burgess, Hore)
Cripps, Neale, Oliver, M.Crouch, Coniglio, B.Crouch, Walsh, Constable
(Atkins, Scott, Gibbons)
Grundy, Goldstein
(Sweet)
Dangerfield, Heeney, Dunkley, Drew, Parker, Setterfield
(Petrucelle, Balta)
30 trades left
Note:
*I wanted to move on Dunkley last week but having no DPP players in the mid has cooked me
*I am $3,500 short of trading Atkins for Stack and upgrading Dunkley to Boak
*I desperately want to jump ship on Dunkley before he becomes another Billings from last year
Any advice or possible trade ideas would be greatly appreciated, have spent hours trying to work this out.
$13,700 remaining