PODCAST | Heeney Meeney Tiny (Pre)mo

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Russty_ · 01/04/2019 at 23:24
You picked De-Floggy for a reason, he kicked 5 goals last week…maybe give him another chance?

ojs · 02/04/2019 at 00:51
thats what worries me- kicked 5 was borderline best on and still only scored 87 points

Nicer_Person · 02/04/2019 at 02:17
Spot on oj, he's an overated egomaniac who is basically SC irrelevant. The only people who disagree are pies fans and fools who started him

ojs · 02/04/2019 at 05:24
not what i said at all, he's an absolute gun (not a pies fan), but yes maybe I am a fool for starting him

Lazza · 02/04/2019 at 22:35
DeG to Kelly.. do it..

Russty_ · 01/04/2019 at 23:14
Don't reckon someone scoring 80's for you each week will hurt your team too much Patchy Mc-Patchface.
He's in StKilda, so that means all their D/E is crappily.
Alternatively, you could go to Dahlhaus, Daniel or Worpinator 3000 as a sidewaysy.

Patch · 02/04/2019 at 22:28
I've got the cash to go up so I'd rather do that, Russty, but I'm just annoyed that he can't get his DE up. He's playing the perfect role but just isn't scoring and it's frustrating

Nice_Person · 02/04/2019 at 07:56
He DE has been great actually

Russty_ · 01/04/2019 at 23:40
McCarthy has spent most of is adult Footy life on the injury list.

Patch · 02/04/2019 at 22:29
Probably not. As we mentioned, bringing mid-pricers in is not ideal considering you need to use a trade bringing them in and another trade removing them. I'd pass on those trades.

Lazza · 02/04/2019 at 22:42
Why would you dump Setterfield? His score was low because he was given a tagging role in the 2nd half on Rockliff.. he was scoring ok up to that point … he kept Rockliff to 26 pts in the 2nd half..
I’d be questioning how is Rockliff gonna go with Wines back this week and a likely tag from the get go this week and next week and the week after that..

The Ranger · 02/04/2019 at 14:00
I'm holding Heeney but I'd move on Robinson, you can afford the trade if you've nailed the rookies Bear.

What_Bear · 04/04/2019 at 13:55
Thanks. Robinson to Kelly

The Ranger · 02/04/2019 at 07:40
Maybe this is the year he does a Shaun Higgins and actually spends a whole season being quite good at football?
Nah, not gonna happen….

Patch · 02/04/2019 at 22:33
DON'T ENCOURAGE HIM? First Damo, now you Ken??? What is the world coming to?

Nice_Person · 02/04/2019 at 07:55
Not worried about henneys cash loss? If you're thinking that much about trading him I'd do it this week

Rocksta_ · 02/04/2019 at 08:44
Agreed.
If you are saying you will flick him next week in the case of a sub par score, best to trade him this week before he loses cash. His BE is 155, so say he gets an 80, he’ll drop around $33K in price.

Derek · 02/04/2019 at 09:26
It depends who you trade to. If your target player is also going to drop in value, waiting a week will only cost you the net difference.

JohnDJ59 · 02/04/2019 at 10:48
If I had three trades I would be Rocksta, but out of the three I thought Heeney was the most likely to end in the top six of their lines, if he looks like he is getting over his ankle injury, I will hang on to him, but another score under 85 next week will see him traded out.

JohnDJ59 · 02/04/2019 at 10:36
Hi N_P, no I'm not worried about the cash loss, since it was out of Simmo and Heeney, so I would be losing cash either way. I kept Heeney for now since I thought he had the best chance to turn it around.

Rick Grimes · 02/04/2019 at 13:18
Heeney will be top 6 forward, so his price drop is irrelevant.

The Ranger · 02/04/2019 at 07:46
I missed him too MP and I think we have to get him.
Check out Footywire for future price predictions, I think he's worth it.
I'll wait for the teams to drop but at the moment I'm ditching Scott.
Atkins or Gibbons could go too, not much in it.

NoLanguage96 · 02/04/2019 at 23:26
I wouldn't be ditching Scott. He had gastro before the game on Sunday and is a better prospect than Atkins or Gibbons IMO

The Ranger · 04/04/2019 at 13:55
My reasoning was that Gibbons has done ok without actually kicking goals, if he can snag a few his price will jump quickly.
And Atkins is 23yrs old where as Scott is 18, not many 18yr olds come straight in and play a lot of games in a row, they often get dropped or get injured.
Not much in it admittedly and time may prove me wrong but I'm going Scott – Constable.

TheScacman · 04/04/2019 at 13:21
Constable is looking like this year's version of Tim Kelly. Going to make you money very fast, and could only be a 100K upgrade to a premium in 6-8 weeks, or hold him till his bye and then trade to an uber premium

Bells · 02/04/2019 at 17:27
Ditch a failing premo rather than a rook?

Patch · 02/04/2019 at 22:34
I reckon Constable is one to have… I'd be tempted to go Walsh down to him? Maybe? It's a tough one. Otherwise probably flick Gibbons

Ja191 · 02/04/2019 at 07:47
I’d prioritise Mundy and go 1. If he shows signs of being top 6 you can buy him back much cheaper later on

Pommie · 02/04/2019 at 08:15
Hi, I have the same problem but have gone Mundy to J Lloyd (Def) via Moore and am keeping Heeney. I think I would be wasting a trade bringing Heeney back into the team. Dalhaus/Worpel might be alternatives to the Mundy to Lloyd trade?

Lekdog · 02/04/2019 at 09:20
1 & 2

Dermin8r · 03/04/2019 at 18:42
I'm considering Heeney to Worpel, so I can upgrade Goldy to Grundy

Lazza · 03/04/2019 at 18:46
1 and 2 .

JohnDJ59 · 03/04/2019 at 18:58
1 and 4

nige · 03/04/2019 at 22:33
1

Holty01 · 02/04/2019 at 09:01
He a good player. Like Rocky, question over the durability. Well done for starting him but wouldn’t recommend trading him in if you didn’t.

Hawk131415 · 02/04/2019 at 09:02
If he stays on the park and scores 90+ , for sure

Lekdog · 02/04/2019 at 09:20
One of those guys that feels like he's been around forever

Rick Grimes · 02/04/2019 at 13:21
Been 5 years since he played a full season. Be ready to move any time as he's made of glass.

Patch · 02/04/2019 at 22:36
Concur. He's only in calculation due to cheap price, which ironically is because of injuries. Swings and roundabouts.

Lekdog · 02/04/2019 at 09:21
YES…if you have no other issues

Beno · 02/04/2019 at 12:48
Only other issue, is I have green on the bench now, and heeney is giving me the shits. Played with trading him to lycett.. Which leaves me 100k in the bank, or green to someone..

Lekdog · 02/04/2019 at 09:21
If the spam filters pick it up I can't help it Hawk!

Hawk131415 · 02/04/2019 at 09:49
I dont use the f word but you havent minded dropping a few of late hahahaha, getting emotional?, lol

Patch · 02/04/2019 at 22:37
We've had a sternly worded meeting in the boardroom about it, Hawk.

Hawk131415 · 03/04/2019 at 12:53
Hahahahahahaha, Nice one Patch, im all for it lol,,,,keep up the good work boys,,,,,

Lazza · 03/04/2019 at 13:47
But you can enable the post to be released.

Lekdog · 03/04/2019 at 14:41
I'll try and greenlight you regular guys, not sure why filter is picking stuff up

Dermin8r · 03/04/2019 at 18:45
Filter? You mean you guys don't personally monitor these posts for our nuggets of enlightened SC wisdom (and questions)? 😛

Patch · 04/04/2019 at 23:20
You have no idea how much I wish we could, Derm.

Lekdog · 03/04/2019 at 13:21
I'll note that no sponsors makes me a bit more comfortable with the language haha

Hawk131415 · 03/04/2019 at 18:19
Youre a bloody hooligan Lek, clean up your act! hahahaha

Lekdog · 02/04/2019 at 09:22
Hold Heeney, consider holding Zerrett

Lazza · 02/04/2019 at 11:34
Do it..

Rob · 03/04/2019 at 05:07
Why trade Merret, he scored 108 last week while being tagged?

Lekdog · 02/04/2019 at 09:22
Hold Heeney

Spifflicator · 02/04/2019 at 10:32
I disagree Lek, I had a look at Heeneys score for the 2018 season, and he just fell in a hole after the bye, in fact he finished the season valued at $440k! So far, this season appears to be more of the same, so I am moving on the bludger NOW, as it was a 'starry eyed wonder pick' I should have known better than to do.

Matty · 02/04/2019 at 11:17
I can't see him swinging back and making me 100-120s for a few weeks. Thinking davies-uniacke will make the same score and bank me a heap of coin. He's pretty much the only rookie I'm after
More looking at who to swap balta for.. leaning towards a FWD/ruck like westhoff in case gawn/Grundy go down for a week or 2

Spifflicator · 02/04/2019 at 12:09
I too have Balta, but I reckon he comes in this week with Reiwoldt down. Given how bad they were at the back and the fact he played as back in the Two's and played well, I suspect he comes in and scores well. I'm keeping IF named.
Lycett smells like a trap, 69 and 167 with a swag of goals means he's way more likely to average closer to the former. AVOID

Hawk131415 · 02/04/2019 at 11:22
Agreed,Heeney out, he's going to bleed cash and you can pick him up later much cheaper if he starts to come good

Moustachio · 02/04/2019 at 16:38
He got injured last year

Spifflicator · 02/04/2019 at 20:36
Well he’s injured again, so newsflash time to get rid of him. His output has never justified the price tag he carries.

Hawk131415 · 02/04/2019 at 20:51
yeah and he didnt score well

Noirlust · 06/04/2019 at 23:13
Good move. I think Heaney is did. Oh wait. He scored 130 odd

Dermin8r · 03/04/2019 at 19:31
I was going to trade Heeney to Worpel so I could upgrade Goldy to Grundy, but Lekdog, you talked me out of it..so I sacrificed Dunkley instead to Worpel so I could upgrade Goldy to Grundy…did I do right, Lekdog? Or shouuld I reverse them and hold off until my rookies make me enough $$ to upgrade Goldy to Grundy? (I'm in league only)

Spifflicator · 02/04/2019 at 10:35
If Balta gets named then I would hold on that trade. Given he can play fwd and back for the Tigers I suspect that he will play and score around 60 odd which is pretty much the same as Miers.

comonyouspurs · 02/04/2019 at 14:50
Agree with Spiff.
I reckon Balta plays this week and will get an extended run at it. He will make cash.

PizzaSafety · 03/04/2019 at 17:51
No point to these trades, a downgrade and a sideways rookie trade. More reasonable if you’re upgrading to a D Moore but only then if Heeney is out this week

Lekdog · 02/04/2019 at 09:23
Tough one, if you've got the cash I'd consider it…if Rocky keeps scoring well he'll make the same cash as Walsh…of course your using a trade which is probably worth about 150k+…so you're trading for points. Is Rocky going to be a keeper?

Tbag86 · 02/04/2019 at 09:49
I'd see Rocky as more of a keeper than Walsh at this point… at absolute worst, Rocky could always be considered as an M9 post byes if he decides to not pig it up and lacks consistency…
My options were:
1. Trade out: Heeney and Atkins
Trade in: Rocky and Darcy Moore (fwd)
Hold Toby Greene
or
2. Trade out: Toby Greene and Walsh
Trade in: Rocky and Miers (already have Parker & Drew)
Hold: Heeney
I've got arthritis in my finger already from hitting the reverse trade button, but thinking I'll hold Heeney…
Yes = underperforming
Yes = injury cloud
Top 6 Fwd at end of season? = Probably.
Once Sydney start getting wins on the board (and it's only a matter of time), Heeney will come good and be part of that.

Derek · 02/04/2019 at 11:35
Rocky a keeper? that means you think he is top 8 (maybe top 10) midfielders? big call.
i would hold. Walsh price will go up same rate as Rocky. Get to see Rocky for a couple more weeks, maybe get the Hutchings tag round 5?.
In a couple of weeks, he will be same price as MCrouch, Bont, Sloane, Dusty, Merrett, players who are more likely to be Top 8 players and you will have for info on them all.
don't need to worry about possible M9 players this early, get 'em as keepers at a good price.

Derek · 02/04/2019 at 10:07
find someone else to trade out.
Walsh is predicted to increase $48k this week and $39k the next week.
Rocky predicted to increase $51k this week and $24k the following week.

Tbag86 · 02/04/2019 at 10:10
If only it was that easy Derek…
Apart from option 1 (above), there are no other rookies I can use to get me across the line to get Rocky.
Even Butters would leave me a couple of grand short.

Derek · 02/04/2019 at 11:23
what i'm saying, it won't matter mush cash ways if you do the trade this week, next week or the week after. The nett difference will stay the same. Gives you a week or two to think about Rocky, especially if Wines come back this week or next.

Derek · 02/04/2019 at 11:37
let the cash cows fatten. Have a look at Rocky and decide if he is really a keeper.

Locked and Loaded · 03/04/2019 at 03:48
Derek what suggests rocky will not be a keeper? His hard tag I’m not worried about as I don’t think many teams view him as the most damaging and plus he can now prepare for a tag and not cop one halfway through a game not expecting it? I think he can definitely be a keeper

Lazza · 02/04/2019 at 11:38
I’d be watching Rockliff for a little longer .. Setterfielf shut him down in the 2nd half on the weekend.. he only scored 26 pts after half time.. it got Carlton back in the game .. if you think other coaches will ignore that .. then proceed..

Derek · 02/04/2019 at 12:58
I was wondering what happened. He didn’t look like touching it in the 4th quarter
Tag is back

Boris_Baconbeer · 02/04/2019 at 18:57
I don't think it helped Carlton, they were level before the tag. I think it's a silly idea to tag in heavy rain also. heavy rain is a great leveller need bodies fighting for the ball in heavy rain. It could have been that rain too that slowed Rocky. IMO sorry to disagree hope you wont hate me :D.

Lazza · 02/04/2019 at 22:51
We love you BB.. your point of view is valid.. though need to point out that Carlton was 3 goals down at half in a low scoring game and clearly won the 3rd quarter 4 goals to 1 .. in the rain as you point out…

Boris_Baconbeer · 03/04/2019 at 09:08
Were they? God I watched the whole game, my memory must be shot (I am getting old I suppose and was being interrupted by the old girl a bit), I thought they were level at the half. I should look it up but looking up Carlton stats goes against the grain as a Bombers fan and I trust you. Anyway I still think it's a waste of time tagging in rain because of the reasons I mentioned earlier, although less so now after you cruelly shooting me down lol ;P

Patch · 02/04/2019 at 22:37
I'd hold, Mikey

Mystic_Mac · 03/04/2019 at 11:24
I'm holding

Dermin8r · 03/04/2019 at 19:32
He started slow last year, keep him, he'll come good

Spifflicator · 02/04/2019 at 10:36
If Balta gets named then hold him.

DavidC · 02/04/2019 at 14:50
Hore should come in for May and Balta likely to come in as well.

JohnDJ59 · 02/04/2019 at 15:02
You are trading out the wrong two.

JohnDJ59 · 02/04/2019 at 16:33
Hold both those trades.

Patch · 02/04/2019 at 22:39
Concur

Derek · 02/04/2019 at 11:20
not really. Looks a nice player, but the extra price doesn't justify getting him now.
Even as a downgrade, i can't see him being worth the trade.

Patch · 02/04/2019 at 22:39
Will be touched on by Statty Matty this week, Shano. Keep your eyes peeled

JohnDJ59 · 02/04/2019 at 16:32
He won't be going up in a hurry so we can afford to wait and get him as a upgrade. Most would have gone with Danger, Heeney, Dunkley as their first three in the fwd line, with Kelly as the next option if you didn't want either Heeney or Dunkley.

UpBeat · 02/04/2019 at 16:42
Cats bye round with Danger most likely reason

Derek · 02/04/2019 at 11:17
unless they are injured, Hold your premiums. don't worry about the cash loss.
I know there there is the need to rage trade, but that is what the Reverse Trade button is for.
It is frustrating watching Fyfe, Neale, LLoyd, Whitfield, Sloane, Bont, and many others who we had at some point in our preseason teams killing it. but as Crouching says, chase points you will get exhausted.
Just look at Oliver. 71 first week, 141 second week. Grundy 81 then 137.

Patch · 02/04/2019 at 22:40
Preach it, Derek. Gosh you're a good egg

Lazza · 02/04/2019 at 11:43
I am trading Yeo to Fyfe this week… Sheed is has the same role and Gaff is back this week.. . if Yeo starts to perform then I can always bring him back after the bye.. but I doubt he will be Top 8 this year.. move him on now before he loses value.. holding dud premos is not wise .. once a premo not always a premo

Pommie · 02/04/2019 at 13:16
Hi, I would be tempted to trade Yeo as I think there are better options in midfield (I don’t think Yeo will be a top 10 mid this year). I don’t know your team but I would consider a switch to any of Bontempelli, Pendlebury, J Selwood around the same price or (if you have any cash) Neale, Fife or Treloar. Good luck

JohnDJ59 · 02/04/2019 at 11:06
Rucks: Lycett. 118, Grundy 109.

Derek · 02/04/2019 at 11:09
I don't think anyone will have Lycett as a Ruck come year end. I am classifying him as a forward.

JohnDJ59 · 02/04/2019 at 11:14
Just having a bit of fun with you Derek, that is what I am planning for come round seven or so.Grundy into the ruck, Lycett to the fwd line. I'm trading in Lloyd for Simmo this week, I traded in Fyfe last week and we all should have started Danger.

Hawk131415 · 02/04/2019 at 11:16
You didnt start Danger John??

JohnDJ59 · 02/04/2019 at 11:27
Yes I did Hawk, I was just saying it was a no brainer to start with him.

Hawk131415 · 02/04/2019 at 11:50
Sorry mate, my bad, i noticed teams that had him in the midfield, crazy shit

Spifflicator · 02/04/2019 at 12:27
Lycett will average way closer to his round 1 score of 69, than his 167 in round 2. I doubt he will be keeper anywhere.

Derek · 02/04/2019 at 12:54
Any ruck against Carlton could get 160 this year
My Monday morning rage trade was Mundy to Lycett. I already have Kelly.
Lycett did only play Carlton and with the Hoff having a poor game, his price will drop the next couple of weeks, thinking of getting a rookie and banking cash

TRIGGA_HAPPY · 02/04/2019 at 11:33
3 out of 4 aint bad.
Went the top mid price who isnt too far behind fyfe.

Derek · 02/04/2019 at 11:45
the forward line is the most unpredictable this year.
after danger its crazy.

ZzZCalintZzZ · 02/04/2019 at 12:39
Agree Derek. Think that we expect top 3 Fwds to avg 100+ and 7 others in the 90+ range This year. Not a lot of players I see in the fwd line avg high 90's and the valuable 100+

Derek · 02/04/2019 at 13:46
I did notice THawkins not doing much wrong and sitting on a lazy 101 ave.
Loved how he gave Clarke a goal last week
With the chaos of the forward line, I’d hang onto some cash and get some of the big boys when they do the Buffalo Bounce.

TOPHAWK1 · 02/04/2019 at 23:33
Got all 4 mate. I got lucky and grabbed all the 'must have" rookies. Enabled me to get Lloyd tonight.

JohnDJ59 · 02/04/2019 at 10:58
Two good trades right there.

ZzZCalintZzZ · 02/04/2019 at 11:08
That's 60pts gained per week easy

Dermin8r · 03/04/2019 at 19:02
Neale (although I started with both)

Derek · 02/04/2019 at 11:06
Just for information, the following scores WERE eliminated this week,
Div 1: 2096
Div 2: 2072
Div 3: 2026
Div 4: 2108
Div 5: 2028
as you can see, competitive divisions

Hawk131415 · 02/04/2019 at 11:18
Nice Hart-attack, massive,

JohnDJ59 · 02/04/2019 at 11:18
As soon as I scored only 2057 I knew I was gone, at least it wasn't the lowest score overall.

Hart_attack · 02/04/2019 at 19:47
Cheers lads
Been trying to keep a lid on it and not brag to be honest lol
Was good enough for 2nd for the week and $500 cold hard cash
Lycett at f3 = lucky as f lol was looking like a corrective trade last week

Hawk131415 · 03/04/2019 at 18:32
Cant believe i survived,

Derek · 02/04/2019 at 13:37
Can you go Billing’s to Kelly?

Matt · 02/04/2019 at 14:54
Not quite, I traded Collins to Scrimshaw before lockout after I saw Billings and Boaks games in round 1 leaving me with $44k at the moment

noirlust · 02/04/2019 at 20:48
Let's not.
I like the low ownership

Patch · 02/04/2019 at 22:43
I did mention him but Lek decided a five minute discussion on Daniel Rich was more viable. Very good POD selection, but will likely have quiet weeks here and there.

Russty_ · 02/04/2019 at 23:51
Tom Stewart 🙂

Derek · 02/04/2019 at 12:43
Dusty should still outscore both

ZzZCalintZzZ · 02/04/2019 at 12:54
That's a big call on Dusty.
Last year he scored 91 & under x8 times and over 130 x5 times only.
This year he is even worse and with Jack down he will play fwd more.

_Kyle · 02/04/2019 at 12:58
I disagree. Rocky will score more unless his shoulder carks it

Derek · 02/04/2019 at 13:36
They are all in the 100 to 105 range I would think.
I plan to hold him to byes, see how trades and injury’s are going and luxury upgrade if needed.
Don’t think I can afford a luxury sideways trade so early.
Now Mundy to Rocky is an upgrade. Might consider that.

Locked and Loaded · 03/04/2019 at 03:52
Dusty has to go mate not hungry enough and his time fwd will increase I’m all about holding premos but when you have the right rookies use what you would’ve used to correct premos… dusty not making a tackle in 2 games of football is not just worrying it’s get him out now and rocky will average more don’t forget what he’s capable of

Dermin8r · 03/04/2019 at 19:05
No, he started slow last year too

ZzZCalintZzZ · 02/04/2019 at 12:31
Kelly
Use a trade for a keeper
Then won't have to trade again if Moore ends up being a stepping stone because he does not avg 90+ as a F6

dontblushbaby · 02/04/2019 at 12:31
Bugger , Kelly is set to be named though

DavidC · 02/04/2019 at 14:58
Trading out Walsh now is wasting a trade.

Spifflicator · 02/04/2019 at 13:05
Check out Heeneys 2018 scoring. Note he finished the year on $440k. This year is looking pretty much exactly like last years up down ride, with down being more common. I'm dumping the squib, and kicking myself for believing the hype.
http://tooserious.net/forum/player_calc.php?id=24…

ZzZCalintZzZ · 02/04/2019 at 13:06
nice start mate

_Kyle · 02/04/2019 at 16:46
In some ways mate. Score of 1988 r1 and 2306 r2 exact same field including C. Lucky on the trades front but r1 hit me for a 6 scores and ranking wise

Russty_ · 02/04/2019 at 13:17
Thinking I have to now, with Greene missing his second week with calf soreness, who knows how long that drags on for.

Derek · 02/04/2019 at 13:28
I think Martin will be as good as Rocky this year.
So just trading for the cash.
Is $150k worth a trade?

Sharkmove_King · 02/04/2019 at 13:16
I think he got tagged last week (by Hewitt) and worked his way through it alright. I think Smith & Milera are pushing up higher onto the wings even, so shouldn't be too much impact.
Pretty simple one really. If you have him hold, if you don't wait for your cows to appreciate and then get him. Top6 defender almost certain

Derek · 02/04/2019 at 13:17
if You got him you do nothing.
He was tagged on weekend that won’t happen every week.
He is top 6 defender. You hold

Rick Grimes · 02/04/2019 at 13:40
I'm dumping him if Campbell is named again. Only wanted him if solo ruck and that doesn't look the case now. Might roll the dice on Lycett and swing him forward later in the year.

Dan · 02/04/2019 at 13:57
Definitely, I think Goldy's only worth having if he's solo in the ruck.

Dermin8r · 03/04/2019 at 19:07
I'm downgrading Heeney to Worpel so I can upgrade Goldy to Grundy this week. Good Luck.

Spifflicator · 02/04/2019 at 13:29
Personally Heeney is a must go for me, so option 2.

The Ranger · 02/04/2019 at 13:35
Option 1 for me.

Maverick_ · 02/04/2019 at 14:14
Option one! Parker looks to be a must have rookie . Looks like he will make us some good $$$ with solid JS as a bonus

AuroraBorealis?! · 02/04/2019 at 14:34
I'm backing Rocky for a 105-110 average this season, and as such he will be fit for m8 come seasons end. Of course, his shoulder could explode next round and i'd be left looking like an idiot put you've gotta take risks in order to succeed

neil demons delight · 02/04/2019 at 17:41
Of all the midpricers Rocky has to be the closest to a keeper AB. Williams ,Smith and Libba some chance.Going to take a further 20 trades for me to get to full prem,so one of these at sub 400k would benefit no end

Taylor Adams · 02/04/2019 at 18:02
Pendles for sure, has a solid record at the G and i believe he has another few games in a row there.

TommyC99 · 02/04/2019 at 19:18
So would you do Dusty to rocky Neil?

Tiger · 03/04/2019 at 12:24
I’m a tigers supporter and to be honest, I would trade him. For whatever reason, be it mind or body or both, he’s not the player of 2017. I watched him play all that year and my wife who barracks for collingwood came to the finals with me , was in awe of him. He really played unbelievably great footy. He still will have some great games but not consistently and I expect he’ll be around the same average as last year in Supercoach, maybe up to 105 at best I think. As much as I love him I picked crouch instead. My 2 bobs worth, cheers.

FearTheBeard · 02/04/2019 at 14:18
Didn't mean to write the f 😐 sorry

AuroraBorealis?! · 02/04/2019 at 14:35
If you would like my thoughts, read above 😉

Dermin8r · 03/04/2019 at 19:50
his "foot injury" concerns me…didn't Buddy have a "Foot injury" last year? What the hell is the ground at the SCG made of, Legos?!

Botswana · 02/04/2019 at 15:39
Have all the main rookies plus D Moore. Considering Greene to LDU

JohnDJ59 · 02/04/2019 at 16:36
Hi Maverick, which rookies do you have on field ? if they are scoring alright then hold, if not then Heeney > Kelly and Greene > Worpel work for me.

Hawk131415 · 02/04/2019 at 17:03
Ive gone Heeney to Kelly Mav, feel his ankle is restricting him and until its right he'll play majority fwd, in which case like ive said a few times is that he will bleed coin and you can get him in later at a bargain price if his ankle gets better and he starts to score better, food for thought and only my opinion, but we've seen it before, players carrying niggles and dont know about it and wonder why they had a shit season, but with Heeney we do know, did it in jlt, went back on and then came off again, not good for me,,

Maverick_ · 02/04/2019 at 17:11
Gday john,
I will have to run with setters, Parker & drew so decent enough cover I have Moore’s DPP but that means I’d still field the extra rook it’d just down back if I swing Moore fwd.
Yeah I know what you mean hawk.. Would love to know the extent of heeneys injury…
I have three real options;
1. Heeney -> kelly Greene -> worpel
2. Greene -> scrimshaw via Moore DPP
3. Hold trades and play the 3 rooks I mentioned above

Hawk131415 · 02/04/2019 at 17:25
Mav, i think Greene is a waste, thats why i didnt start him, because of this crap and the suspensions, just not worth it to me at all, The Heeney call is a gut call for me which could go either way, Kelly looks like top 8 Fwd to me, and i think Scrimshaws js is locked in atm, Option 1 or 2 for me mate

Derek · 02/04/2019 at 17:31
Scrimshaw looks good. Very good. Had a nervous first game but he looks a solid player. Good size, can play tall and has a good kick. Might be your trade and bank the cash.

JohnDJ59 · 02/04/2019 at 17:39
Hi Mav, looking at the three rookies, two on field would be alright, not sure about all three though, so for peace of mind I would go option one, but if you have faith in Heeney go option two, I have Scrimshaw at D5 and I'm happy with that situation.

Derek · 02/04/2019 at 17:27
If I had Greene, I’d trade down to a cheap rookie you don’t have or correctional to Libba. (Hopefully you have Drew or Setterfield in midfield)

Maverick_ · 02/04/2019 at 17:47
Got libba already Derek. Unfortunately drew & setters both forward.
Thanks guys you all sound pretty happy with scrimshaw an I was too but to have yas conform it is good. I think I’ll definitely go Greene -> scrimshaw.
Heeney to kelly will be a call later in the week.
The bank from the first alone will be nice.

Maverick_ · 02/04/2019 at 18:33
Actually I think I have to also consider rozee instead of scrimshaw Got the DPP to swing if need be and has looked very good for port Adelaide so far..
Thoughts? Both break evens are -45ish

Hawk131415 · 02/04/2019 at 18:46
For some reason im not a fan of Rozee, not personal, just dont think he has enough scoring potential to make enough coin to warrant the pick, jmo

Maverick_ · 02/04/2019 at 19:15
He looks to be scoring greater than scrim though and surely has as good if not better JS than scrimshaw…

Derek · 02/04/2019 at 20:59
Rozee is going to be a very good player
He has started well because Port has won a couple of games.
Scrimshaw will be more consistent and is a fair bit cheaper so you can upgrade him a week or two earlier than Rozee

JohnDJ59 · 02/04/2019 at 18:58
I just brought Rozee in for Mills and he is now sitting at D4, so I have both. The ddp is handy if I want to move him fwd in the future for Heeney if he keeps having scores under 90 and get in a premo defender.

Maverick_ · 02/04/2019 at 19:14
Yeah it’s going to be a tough call to split the two johnD. No doubt I’ll be burnt by which ever I don’t decide haha

JohnDJ59 · 02/04/2019 at 21:53
I had the same problem with Simmo and Heeney, I felt one had to go, just wasn't sure which one, I chose Simmo, but now I'm having second thoughts.

Russty_ · 02/04/2019 at 19:00
I'm ripping the band aid off quick with Greene Mav..he's gone for Scrimshaw, still tossing up whether or not to get rid of a second one in my fwd line this week too.

Maverick_ · 02/04/2019 at 19:13
Yeah Greene is 110% gone russty it’s round 3 and he will have missed 2 games. It’s definitely Greene to either rozee or scrimshaw for me. Both look to be good picks but can’t say I’ve watched either much

Russty_ · 02/04/2019 at 19:17
I lost my fwd def swing doing it but I don't mind cause I saved 40k getting Scrimshaw over Rozee, can get the swing back again when I trade my next fwd in.
Haven't seen all that much of them either Mav, but their stats and JS are pretty good.

NoLanguage96 · 03/04/2019 at 20:52
I also lost my def fwd swing getting LDU in for Greene but won't be losing sleep over that!

Jarrod · 03/04/2019 at 20:46
Hello Alex Sexton?

DavidC · 02/04/2019 at 15:03
I'd trade Heeney before Dunkley.

Derek · 02/04/2019 at 17:22
Kelly is looking like a top 6 forward, so you need to get him at some stage, might as well be now.
But what if Heeney and/or Dunkley are also top 6 forwards? Remember Menagola from last year

nige · 03/04/2019 at 22:59
What about Menagola from this year damn it!!!

kinglear009 · 03/04/2019 at 23:29
Hahahahahahaha
I have Heeney, Menegola and Dunkley.
*head hits desk*

Ja191 · 02/04/2019 at 14:44
Similar case to rocky. You’d only be trading him in if you think he’ll be top 8 or 9 mids come years end not as a cash cow

TheBenoFactors · 02/04/2019 at 18:17
I thought he might be an option at least for the next 4-5 weeks as a steppingstone and a bit of cash gen, Definitely not a keeper come seasons end. Blakey not due back for a while so Hill could continue on with his 120 AVG at least until then.

Derek · 02/04/2019 at 17:19
I think Blakey is still 2 months away, he should be good until then.
At the moment the top 6 forwards is anyone’s guess. I suggest holding off making crazy decisions until more info avaliable
Should Only be dealing with injuries, rookies and Mundies this week, in that order.

TheBenoFactors · 02/04/2019 at 18:12
Yeah very true, just thought I’d throw it out there..

hedski · 02/04/2019 at 18:43
Blakley listed as 3 weeks away, one to watch closely.

Hawk131415 · 02/04/2019 at 17:30
Hiilys not a consistent scorer, i wouldnt be wasting that trade Beno, def wont be top 10 mid

JohnDJ59 · 02/04/2019 at 16:46
I'd pick one of Heeney and Dunkley and trade him to Kelly, no need to trade both.

Mick · 02/04/2019 at 18:22
I’d keep Dunkley, he attended a lot centre bounces last week, just didn’t have a great game. Heeney on the other hand……

Rocksta_ · 02/04/2019 at 19:38
Dunkley attended a lot of centre bounces but only got 18 possessions. I’m not convinced on him. On the other hand, Heeney will definitely come good and rotate out of the midfield once over his injury niggles.

Hawk131415 · 02/04/2019 at 19:50
Hey Rocksta, the point is when will that be? will it be soon or ongoing ????

Rocksta_ · 02/04/2019 at 19:55
Depends on the extent of his injury mate. Swans have been crap and they don’t have Hanners any more. He’ll be running out of the midfield as soon as he can I’m sure.
I reckon there will be a week or 2 more of crap. Won’t even be surprised if he’s rested this week. But I’m backing him in as a keeper so his imminent price drop is irrelevant.

JohnDJ59 · 02/04/2019 at 16:26
A great take on the Heeney situation Lazza, I'm holding for now due to trading out Simmo > Lloyd and Mills > Rozee. If it had only been Heeney I probably would have traded him to Kelly.

Hawk131415 · 02/04/2019 at 16:35
Yes Lazza i ponder the mid price option but its a backwards move unles the midpricer was averaging 90+ i dont see the point, so went Kelly, could still change to Gunner as a pod, chopping and changing with that one, also have Lynch who i did change down to Worpel as his av is 101, but could easily have both Kelly and gunner as i have the coin? decisions decisions,,,,,,

Derek · 02/04/2019 at 17:13
There are only two types of players.
Keepers and cash generators.
I see why people start with mid pricers, usually because of the lack of or unknown JS of rookies, but usually because of cognitive bias and the hope of them being a nearly keeper. Plus rookies on field are scary, Scott a perfect example.
Non keepers need to make $200-$300k and you need at least 10 to 15 of them.

Rick Grimes · 02/04/2019 at 16:06
Nice Drake analogy. Very true.

Russty_ · 02/04/2019 at 16:12
I noticed him but when Longer gets back he might have first dibs on the Ruck spot, which means Marshall stays fwd and pinch hits, could get stuck with a lowly scoring fwd there, I agree though I think he's much better than Pierce and Longer in the Ruck.

neil demons delight · 02/04/2019 at 16:39
got him in my drafts Russty Been blowing to GATOR about him for ages .Big J L T score as well. Reckon he is better than Longer and Pierce

JuddWarneLoveChild · 03/04/2019 at 15:51
Interesting Russty, I guess Longer is injured. It would suck if Marshall's role changed. Guess that's the risk involved, can he keep Longer out.

Derek · 02/04/2019 at 16:21
I think he got injured in weekend

neil demons delight · 02/04/2019 at 16:40
Went back on Derek only a fwd in s/c

JohnDJ59 · 02/04/2019 at 16:40
Worpel for me, but Gunner would be a POD.

Hawk131415 · 02/04/2019 at 16:42
Cheers John, More mid time for Worp and saves cash and he will generate cash too,,

Dermin8r · 03/04/2019 at 19:23
I had Gunner in my FWD line last year, but I'd go Worpel this time around due to his Midfield time and his current form

JohnDJ59 · 02/04/2019 at 16:54
Danger.

neil demons delight · 02/04/2019 at 17:28
Oliver Shake but Grundy and Danger both good

Shake_n_bake · 02/04/2019 at 19:11
have to loop with Bines Neil. So can make Grundy capt but not vc

neil demons delight · 02/04/2019 at 19:30
my bad forgot they play each other

hedski · 02/04/2019 at 18:46
Danger into Macrae seems a no brainer this round Shake.

Lazza · 02/04/2019 at 19:51
It’s Tuesday… my team as it stands has Danger into Oliver…

Dermin8r · 03/04/2019 at 19:21
I'm going Danger to Neale (or Fyfe)

BoltonsBlues · 02/04/2019 at 18:43
Gibbons is almost guaranteed a game = slow money generation, dont trade him for one that is going to make 100-150k max and wont be a keeper

Rick Grimes · 02/04/2019 at 21:46
I also have Higgins but I'm losing confidence after last weekend. I'm wondering if Riewoldt injury might work in his favour. Dusty likely to push forward and Riewoldt had been attending a few centre bounces. Perhaps Higgins picks up more time in the guts. BE of 80 odd, so no rush I guess.

Hawk131415 · 02/04/2019 at 17:30
Go Martin to Rocky, save cash and more points

Sharkmove_King · 02/04/2019 at 18:58
Mundy-Kelly
Martin-Neale

Hawk131415 · 02/04/2019 at 17:27
Can you do Neale and Worpel??

Jimmy · 02/04/2019 at 18:14
Unfortunately not enough cash ☹️

Hawk131415 · 02/04/2019 at 18:31
Unfortunate mate, but im not big on Rozee, def Neale, missing any other rooks? like Scrimshaw?

Rivo · 02/04/2019 at 18:01
Of those choices, I would go option 1, Neale & Roze.

JohnDJ59 · 02/04/2019 at 18:00
Go to the best sideways player trade you can afford for Dusty.

Rivo · 02/04/2019 at 18:03
Cheers John. So you think Option 3 then?

Hawk131415 · 02/04/2019 at 18:07
Dusty out for sure, Sloane seems like a great option with both Crouch boys playing well,

Rivo · 02/04/2019 at 18:12
Yep Hawk, that’s exactly who I’ve been looking at. He seems to be back to full strength after injuries last season. Could be a good move.

John · 02/04/2019 at 18:52
Will play hell with the byes though

Rivo · 02/04/2019 at 19:00
Yeah need to check that! Thanks for the heads up.

Hawk131415 · 02/04/2019 at 19:06
F%$k the byes

Rivo · 02/04/2019 at 19:21
Yep Hawk, all clear on that front.

Hawk131415 · 02/04/2019 at 19:49
Sorry dude, to me, which could be totally wrong, its hard to pick the best starting team to work in with each bye round, things can happen between now and then, out of our control, Like the hawks mate, ride the bumps with a grin, everyone has ordinary bye rounds, just get through them,,

Rivo · 02/04/2019 at 21:37
All good Hawk. Byes covered for now but no idea if those players will be available/in form by then. Rolling the dice.

JohnDJ59 · 02/04/2019 at 19:39
Yes

BoltonsBlues · 02/04/2019 at 18:42
Im trading Dusty but holding Heeney due to having DEVIL Smithers in my team,
Dusty > Rocky
Smithers > Kelly
Risky, but i am Captain Risky

Dermin8r · 03/04/2019 at 20:03
sounds good, or Dusty to Kelly if you want to save a trade

GreendaleFC · 02/04/2019 at 19:31
I'm in a similar conundrum. Right now hold is slightly leading. Rocky's injury history is just a little too much for me, and I'm not sure that it's worth it to make a sideways trade after only two games.

Lazza · 02/04/2019 at 19:44
Hi Rivo,
I’m approaching the Martin or the equally poor performing Yeo trade as a correction … so yes it will cost me a trade, but if it gives me a Top 5 player then the points and the $$ will make up the trade loss. So a trade to Fyfe, or Oliver or Neale or a J Lloyd thru DPP will be a safe and worthwhile bet.
If Martin comes back into form it’s unlikely he will match those above .. so no sleep to be lost… if he does warrant trading back in, then again nothing lost other than the one trade as his subsequent trade replaces the trade that was always planned to bring in One of those above.
If you are unsure that Martin will return to form then now is the time to trade him… Once a premo not necessarily always a premo

Rivo · 02/04/2019 at 21:44
Correction trades are an important part of the game Lazza. Dusty is a Jet when he’s on & he can turn it around, like Yeo, but I’m thinking it may take a few weeks, when the Tigers find their mojo. Neale a great option too, risk/reward. Good luck.

Lekdog · 03/04/2019 at 13:20
I'm a hold but leaning to option 2 if forced to trade.

Rivo · 03/04/2019 at 17:06
Thanks Lek. What would force you to trade?
Rockliff ownership through the roof now. There’s a bit of me 2 in this weeks trade activity.

The Ranger · 03/04/2019 at 17:30
I'm holding Dusty and Heeney as I have to deal with Old Man Mundy but if I was trading Dusty it would be to Sloane.

JohnDJ59 · 02/04/2019 at 17:55
Any of the last three would work.

Rivo · 02/04/2019 at 18:00
Depends on your available cash! Of the last 4, I would think Schultz has the least JS.

hedski · 02/04/2019 at 18:50
If you have a dodgier def rook you could trade them and swing Burgo back?

KeenButClueless · 02/04/2019 at 19:10
Could you move Burgess to defence (for Hore??). Then bring in Parker.

Steve · 02/04/2019 at 19:47
Cheers

Funkhouser · 02/04/2019 at 21:21
Not sure that I would trade a money making rookie to him, be interested to see what he can average, if Bolta doesn't get a call up this weekend I will trade him to LDU otherwise no, let fate decide.

Taylor Adams · 02/04/2019 at 22:16
Would love to trade balta straight, but i got no mid-fwd to swap with him sadly.

Ja191 · 02/04/2019 at 19:01
do it

Russty_ · 02/04/2019 at 19:21
Tough getting the rooks right on field Brad but it gets easier, I blew it first round and got em all wrong, second round was better, from here on, just stick the ones on with the highest average, probs best to back your guys in..but if they stink it up in the next few weeks you might have to move on em.

Rocksta_ · 02/04/2019 at 19:27
Please refer below.
I’m sticking with Heeney as I know he’ll come good after he gets over his injury niggles. Swans also need more options to run out of the guts. Not convinced on Dunkley due to his relatively low possession count, and Dogs many options for mid rotation.
Farewell Mr Dunkley.

Lazza · 02/04/2019 at 20:13
Mumford is unlikely to play this week – see GWS website

Lazza · 02/04/2019 at 20:11
Everyone in SC was on a free trial .. from R3 you have to pay $20 to have access for the rest of the he season…

Tbag86 · 03/04/2019 at 07:44
I’m the same… I thought Foxtel subscribers bet the complimentary SC gold subscription…
Anyone shed any light on this???

Tiger · 03/04/2019 at 13:06
Go to https://www.foxtel.com.au then login using your Foxtel email and password. Then open Supercoach in the foxsports portal and login to Supercoach. You must have the foxsports package to be able to sign in. From what I hear some people have had trouble signing in and then tried using their Supercoach login and like myself got it for trial for 12 weeks free. Better than nothing, hope this helps.

TommyC99 · 02/04/2019 at 20:13
You could bring in Grundy and then look to upgrading to a Lycett/Westhoff in the fwd down the line, which is what im planning on doing. Otherwise you could stick to your original plan on getting Grundy after the byes, but i'd fear you'd lose too many points

Justin · 02/04/2019 at 20:21
I do have Westoff. What about Goldy out, Westoff to ruck and a premo fwd with Goldys cash?
I am worried abou points but I might get the best of both world if I pick the right premo.

TommyC99 · 02/04/2019 at 20:25
Westhoff just isnt good enough in the rucks, he'd be a fwd who can provide cover into your rucks downthe line

Justin · 02/04/2019 at 20:28
Cheers Tommy, time to bite the bullet.

Hawk131415 · 02/04/2019 at 20:52
I think Goldy is done

Dermin8r · 03/04/2019 at 20:11
Grundy & BigBoy, I was wary of Goldy too…

Dan · 02/04/2019 at 22:18
I was thinking the same thing. If Campbell is named again I'm planning on trading Goldy to Gawn.

JohnDJ59 · 02/04/2019 at 21:56
Bont or Pendles.

TommyC99 · 02/04/2019 at 22:12
Not sure either are top 10 mids either. Bont showed last year he can be just as inconsistent, although this could be his breakout year. And pendles has looked pretty good, but plenty of pies mids and he is getting a little old. I would like a pies mid as a pies fan but think treloar is the one to own from the pies, but unfortunately i dont have the coin

JohnDJ59 · 02/04/2019 at 22:20
I guess that is why they are priced the way they are, we get what we pay for, but I would still prefer one of Bont or Pendles over Dusty, ps I didn't start with any of the three, but both Bont and Pendles are on my watchlist.

NoLanguage96 · 02/04/2019 at 23:36
Have the same issue FS – thinking option 1

Russty_ · 02/04/2019 at 23:41
Option 1's a ripper FranklinShow.

Locked and Loaded · 03/04/2019 at 04:00
Option 1 or 2
Option 2 gives you two keepers imo rocky is back

Nice_Person · 03/04/2019 at 07:12
Not sure why option 3 is there. Brads been great.
I'd pick 2

FranklinShow · 03/04/2019 at 07:21
Option 3 is there as crouch isnt a keeper and brayshaw may finiah in the top 15 mids by the end of the yr and could be a perfect m8.
I think option 1 is where im learning to but rocky appears to have recaptured his ball winning ability. Interesting to see if teams start putting time into him and what is the effect of Wines coming back.

Tim · 02/04/2019 at 20:41
Many are saying no, but they also said that about Coniglio and Sicily last year; both of which I traded in early and worked out swimmingly.

Hawk131415 · 02/04/2019 at 20:48
nope

Russty_ · 02/04/2019 at 23:08
As the boys said in the podcast mate, who gets the boot to do that?…and will they be worth it long term or have to be traded out again?
You're either dumping a premo or a rookie who hasn't fattened yet to make it happen, possible exception would be Dusty, if I had him I'd turf him.

Joe T · 02/04/2019 at 20:37
Holding trades is also an option. Was lucky enough to get the rookies right

TOPHAWK1 · 02/04/2019 at 21:08
I nailed the rookies too Joe. There lies the opportunity mate! Most coaches need to use a trade(s) to grab a "Charlie Constable" or "Matthew Parker" like rook. Take advantage of it and use your trades for an upgrade or two! I have used 3 trades over the last 2 weeks to grab Jake Lloyd, Nat Fyfe, and Scott Lycett.
I reckon going Heeney to T Kelly is the best option out of those two. Heeney has a sore ankle and has been managed up forward. In fact, there is a risk that he could miss games if the injury does not settle.
Good luck mate!

Joe T · 02/04/2019 at 22:09
You make a good point Hawk, opportunity to get a leg up early. It feels so weird not having to do any corrective rookie trades that it's almost wrong haha
I feel Heeney will still finish a top 6-8 fwd. Simpson may drop off with Newman now in the team, but i might pull the trigger on both trades and sit pretty the next couple of weeks. Freedom to choose in SC feels strange! Just don't want these early trades to burn me later

Dermin8r · 03/04/2019 at 20:12
option 1 for me…good luck

JohnDJ59 · 03/04/2019 at 20:49
Option 2 or even both.

Rocksta_ · 02/04/2019 at 21:28
I’m bewildered as to why so many people picked him this year. He was a stain on my side for most of the season last season, as I had too many forced LTI trades to get rid of him early enough.
He is on my ‘never again’ list. The man Is a downhill skier.

TOPHAWK1 · 02/04/2019 at 21:33
Agreed Rocksta. I should have known better. That is why I torpedoed this lazy gangbanger out of my side tonight while I have the opportunity.

Rocksta_ · 02/04/2019 at 21:47
Definitely a prime candidate for a corrective trade. 90% of us (me included) have had to make them this week I’m sure.

Mystic_Mac · 03/04/2019 at 11:37
He's on my "never again" list after last year.

Russty_ · 02/04/2019 at 23:01
Probs would've been better off starting with Gresham instead Hawker, he looks to have lifted this year a fair bit. Billings is a punk 🙂

TOPHAWK1 · 02/04/2019 at 21:17
Not sure Gator. After Libba's heroic 130 last week you would think his projection should be sitting around 80 this week. Still, owners are going to be very very happy. I don't have him!

gator59 · 02/04/2019 at 21:25
Yeah you would think his projection would be far higher than that… I don't have him either but just playing around with my team and didn't realize his was so low … Like your Billings to Lloyd, a very smart move Toppa

neil demons delight · 02/04/2019 at 21:29
waiting for Lloyd to come down .hopefully

gator59 · 02/04/2019 at 21:33
We can only hope so Neil… I'm trying to get him in this week but about 10k short

Michael · 02/04/2019 at 23:07
His projection last round was 26. Something up with their algorithm surely

Hawk131415 · 02/04/2019 at 23:17
i wouldnt go on those stoopid projections,theyre not right, just a shitty algorythym, or how ever its spelt, will change from week to week, dont rely on them, its pretty much guess work like we all do, go with your gut,,

Russty_ · 02/04/2019 at 23:18
It's just to give our opponents a false sense of security this week Gator 🙂

Nice_Person · 03/04/2019 at 07:23
It was 13 round 1. Because of that injured game last year

Moustachio · 03/04/2019 at 08:53
Based on his av last year. I guess they will switch to this year's scores after 3 games.

hedski · 02/04/2019 at 21:49
I have Darling at F4 also, JJK just easing back into the team, I think Darling will get off the leash soon.

Russty_ · 02/04/2019 at 23:05
They're on opposite ends of the field, can't ya start em both?

Jack · 03/04/2019 at 07:05
Must have moore as swingman

Wally Brando · 03/04/2019 at 12:48
Correct, got Moore as swinger

Lazza · 03/04/2019 at 14:08
Parker

TOPHAWK1 · 02/04/2019 at 22:11
Ja = yes in Dutch! Connor Rozee? Ja or Nee!

Dermin8r · 03/04/2019 at 20:14
this week I did just that, Dunkley to Worpel so I could upgrade Goldy to Grundy

Rocksta_ · 02/04/2019 at 22:04
No way L G. Heeney is a much better player than Billings. Stick phat, he’ll come good.

DavidC · 03/04/2019 at 08:49
Agreed, trading Billings and Hibberd early last year were the right moves. I didn't and suffered. Heeney isn't playing the right role, he's spending too much time in the forward line plus he is carrying an injury. He will miss some games as Sydney manage him. Sydney will struggle all year and miss the eight, in a losing team there will not be as many points to share around. Come round 23 his total points won't be in the top 10 forwards. If I had him I would be trading him to someone like Kelly.

PizzaSafety · 03/04/2019 at 20:45
This is an injury isssuuue not a player issoeue, he will come good

Lekdog · 02/04/2019 at 22:19
I'm holding, copping the whack this week and seeing how Marchbank impacts his role (if he returns this week)

JohnDJ59 · 02/04/2019 at 23:28
Thanks for the feedback Lekdog, I normally wouldn't be that worried about Simmo, but I'm a bit concerned about how Newman is impacting him.

Russty_ · 02/04/2019 at 23:45
Hey John, I'd turf Simmo, and keep Heeney, Simmo could be affected by others or just getting on a bit now and his body could be feeling the effects.
Thought you already went Simmo to Lloyd?

JohnDJ59 · 03/04/2019 at 00:00
I had but I changed it to Mills > Lloyd and Heeney > Rozee. Mills is going either way, but I need to trade one of Simmo or Heeney for Lloyd. It's not so much wanting to get Lloyd straight away, just not feeling good about how Simmo and Heeney are travelling and I keep changing my mind about which one should go.

Russty_ · 03/04/2019 at 00:05
Can understand your dilemma mate, if I were in your shoes, I'd fix my backline first.
Heeney will be right soon, he's still young and good, he'll bounce back, Simmo and Mills for Rozee and Lloyd will make you the most coin too right?…and Simmo is set to lose 34k if he scores 100 so if he gets another 70 to 80, could lose 45k. (not sure exactly)

JohnDJ59 · 03/04/2019 at 00:19
Looking at it that way it might end up Simmo and apart from the last JLT game he hasn't been the Simmo of old.

Dermin8r · 03/04/2019 at 20:31
solid move. good luck!

Russty_ · 02/04/2019 at 23:51
Think Parker could be one of the best paying rookies this year, he's 23..so mature aged, looks a lively type too, takes good marks and kicks goals.
Balta looked good in JLT but then scored 18 in his first big game.

Doc_1 · 03/04/2019 at 00:42
Thanks Rusty.
Have already pulled the trigger on Balta to Parker. Just don’t want to burn an unnecessary trade and have the mouse hovering above reverse.
The only other play I could have if Balta is named would be Heeney to Parker, but not sure I’ve got the fortitude (even though he may outscore heeney in the short run!).

Russty_ · 03/04/2019 at 00:47
That move would take some Jurassic sized nuts Doc…also Caddy is due back this week, so Balta might not get named at all anyway.
I'm just gonna stick with Heeney and ride it out unless he misses games.

DavidC · 03/04/2019 at 07:24
Reckon Balta gets named so I am holding for now. Just going to let Parker slide on by.

JohnDJ59 · 02/04/2019 at 23:24
The only players there I would be worried about are Greene, Heeney and Yeo, in that order.

Moustachio · 03/04/2019 at 08:39
Greene -> LDU (Drew to fwd)
Hore -> Moore (bench Collins or Clark)
or
Greene -> Libba
Collins -> Moore

TOPHAWK1 · 03/04/2019 at 09:57
Option 1 for me. LDU is looking superb. He took a bit of time to get going as the 2018 number one draft pick, but he has now come into his own. If Hore is not named this week, Hore to Moore makes perfect sense. Good luck mate!

Russty_ · 02/04/2019 at 23:31
Happens every year Holty, guys think they're gonna miss the points train and want to jump on asap, I don't have Grundy Lloyd or Macrae but I'm not gonna panic about it, thought Goldy would do ok but he's on notice now.
I started guys like libba and Greene too, Greene's already backfired so he has to go, another brain fade I think was De Goey, not sure why I did it really but I know I couldn't afford Kelly, also thought he could be a good pod but he's more like a pod of shite.
So basically people make other plans with their money eg midpricers etc, and don't get the top guys cause they think their midpricers will work out, when that falls flat on it's ass they panic and want the top guys everyone else has with the big points.
So yeah, most of the time, not starting with the top guys will cost trades, and points.

Holty01 · 02/04/2019 at 23:38
Yeah the old mid price traps are always a pain. I said I wouldn’t start any this year but as round 1 started I somehow had 3. I don’t have Lloyd. Would love to get him but not now. Too expensive to waste 2 trades on.
How is everything going anyway mate. Playing much golf?

Russty_ · 02/04/2019 at 23:41
Good bud, been a bit busy with renos on the house and painting lately, hoping to hit the course this sunday though..it's been awhile! 🙂

TommyC99 · 02/04/2019 at 23:34
Agree holty, the panic is understandable seeing as not having these players would hurt your team. I don’t have Lloyd as I couldn’t squeeze him in and am hoping to pick him up cheap down the line but you have to accept you’re gonna cop some huge scores before they drop in price. If you think you’re gonna panic after they go huge early then you may well start them to avoid putting yourself on the back foot just to get them in

TOPHAWK1 · 02/04/2019 at 23:44
Hi Holty,
The season is upon us! I used 3 trades after fortunately grabbing the right rooks. I snagged Fyfe last week and hopefully Lycett and Jake Lloyd this week.

Holty01 · 03/04/2019 at 06:47
Wow Hawk. Go hard or go home I guess. I was fortunate enough to start the right rookies so haven’t used a trade. Have no Lloyd and Fyfe but that was at the sacrifice of starting Hurn and Sloane to get Rocky at M6. I’ll be trying to get Lloyd in soon but hopefully at a fallen price.

John · 03/04/2019 at 03:51
Rucks are having a tough trot at the moment
From Footywire
Gawn's BE this week is 197
Grundy's BE is 194
Both expected to drop about $40K and $31K this week respectively and are expected to drop the week after as well.
Goldy BE is 150. Expected to drop $25K this week.
Martin BE is 143 Expected to drop $18K this week
Jacobs BE is 130. Expected to drop $22K this week
Only Nank, McEvoy, Phillips, Lycett and English have breakevens within cooee of their ave but the last 3 are not reliable and/or high scoring.
Sit back and enjoy the ride.and consider trading in a week or two.

TOPHAWK1 · 03/04/2019 at 10:07
I agree Holty. No need to pull out all the stops to get the uber premos at all cost so early. I am fortunate that I started with all the right rookies and dodged Heeney, Greene, and had some cash in the war chest. As I dont have to trade to get missing rookies, I am going to pull 2 trades this week to strengthen my side. My gut tells me Goldy is going to be trouble this year. So he will turn into Lycett. The cash raised will enable me to snag Lloyd for that serial spud Billings. I might as well grab him whilst I have the chance. He will be top defender with day light in between this year. (Touch wood he stays healthy) I can now sit back and watch the lambs fatten. I have traded aggressively to start this season. Three trades, Snared Fyfe, Lycett, and Lloyd. I will not trade now for the next week or two unless LTI strike. If Taylor Adams is named mate, I might consider grabbing him instead of Lloyd. Keep that one hush hush. LOL

Holty01 · 03/04/2019 at 10:23
I was keen on him but not playing 1st round stopped that. If I had a underperforming mid I might of swapped him but happy with my mids at present.

TRIGGA_HAPPY · 03/04/2019 at 12:14
Sage like advice Holts.
Luckily i started all the big boys as didnt want the headache of working out how/when to bring them in.
Each to their own. ..

Lazza · 03/04/2019 at 12:53
I'm not sure that it is all panic… some of us are in a position to grab a Fyfe or Lloyd because circumstances have changed. Typically it is a access to additional funding through a forced trade that allows an under performing premo to be replaced with a performing Uber, where that performing Uber was always a target. I started R1 with $9k in the bank, and didn't have the funds to secure a better premo.
To avoid a donut in R2 I made a trade that as a bonus left me with $80K in the bank. I can now reinvest that by getting rid of an under performing premo MID (Yeo) who is averaging 77 (who will drop $42k this week and more next week) and trade him up to a Fyfe or Lloyd. (I started 6 2 2 in the middle, so can afford to move a premo to DEF).
So the way I justify it is that I have spent $70k less than my starting team for a better team plus the value difference between Fyfe and Yeo, which is $32k today, but likely $60k next week. So next week I will view my trade as being worth $130k.
So, I'm left with a better team and I will still have $47k in the bank.
Obviously there is a flaw in the maths as it doesn't account for the first trade .. but as it turns out the trade to Parker was pretty handy and has allowed me to upgrade duffer Yeo.
So will I bring Yeo back in later? .. probably not as there are likely others who are emerging that will be cheaper.

Lazza · 03/04/2019 at 12:57
Don't know why this has happened … only a few minutes after my previous post … no foul language at all… .. it was a large post .. so I hope I don't have to re-do it … so site admin can you make sure it appears … posts with this msg never seem to get released.. .. will have to start saving bl00dy posts before hitting submit.

Derek · 03/04/2019 at 13:02
Imagine if you could pick a team from scratch right now. I would have Lloyd in it
In fact I might do that later

Holty01 · 02/04/2019 at 23:11
Kelly

NoLanguage96 · 02/04/2019 at 23:35
Kelly

Doc_1 · 02/04/2019 at 23:42
Kelly

TRIGGA_HAPPY · 03/04/2019 at 12:06
With ablett and jelwood making room in the mids gotta say Kelly

JohnDJ59 · 02/04/2019 at 23:51
Balta to Parker, I'd hold Hore, he should get more games.

DavidC · 03/04/2019 at 06:46
Balta should be back in this week. I'd save the trade.

TRIGGA_HAPPY · 03/04/2019 at 12:04
Wait on teams
Both may play this week

Russty_ · 02/04/2019 at 23:43
Get rid of Greene mate…calf issues can drag on for weeks, he's gone from my squad and I feel relieved.
Ridley should get more games.

NoLanguage96 · 03/04/2019 at 00:22
Yeah it's probably the way to go. Leaning towards LDU instead of Constable, thoughts?

Russty_ · 03/04/2019 at 00:29
He looks the goods mate, had a great game on the weekend but so did Constable…I'd go Constable just for the money saved factor, think Atkins would get dropped before Constable.

NoLanguage96 · 03/04/2019 at 00:38
Yeah I have Atkins and Clarke already so leaning towards LDU but both guns. Decisions!

kinglear009 · 03/04/2019 at 21:59
On a sheer value basis, Constable is cheap. Cheap rookies, wherever possible, are preferable to expensive rookies.

JohnDJ59 · 02/04/2019 at 23:48
Option 1.

Moustachio · 03/04/2019 at 08:31
Option 3 – Greene to LDU, Dusty to Constable.
Next round turn some spud rookie to an uber whose price will not have moved much anyway eg Fyfe, Lloyd

NoLanguage96 · 03/04/2019 at 13:45
Now this is an idea! Thanks mate

Dermin8r · 03/04/2019 at 20:33
I'd go Green to LDU so you can go Dusty to Fyfe (or Neale, $11k cheaper and steering a hot young team around the park)

NoLanguage96 · 03/04/2019 at 20:54
Thanks Dermin8r. Luckily I started with Lachie so I'm gonna grab Fyfe next week. This week is Greene and Dusty to LDU and Constable pocketing 600k 🙂

TOPHAWK1 · 03/04/2019 at 00:10
Cant help you. I am bad at Supercoach.

JohnDJ59 · 03/04/2019 at 00:13
I don't mind either Tommy, but if you are doing the Heeney trade just to get rid of Dusty, why not go to a lower priced player than Neale, or are you set on Neale ?

Russty_ · 03/04/2019 at 00:14
Maybe go Dusty to Rocky only and ride the Dragon's Tail!

Moustachio · 03/04/2019 at 08:29
Dusty -> Sloane. Keep Heeney.

TRIGGA_HAPPY · 03/04/2019 at 12:04
Like em Tommy

Lazza · 03/04/2019 at 14:45
Whats wrong with Dusty to Kelly? You can leave him the guts till your next upgrade then move him FWD. Which means you'd have probably 3 of the final Top 6 FWDs in your team – Danger, Kelly & Heeney and I suspect you already have another premo.

Dermin8r · 03/04/2019 at 20:34
Dusty to Neale is a sound proposition, hold onto Heeney, though, he'll come good.

Russty_ · 03/04/2019 at 00:18
I'd say option 3 Nozzy and bank heaps or..if Dunkley's not getting the mid time you expected, then option 2.

Moustachio · 03/04/2019 at 08:28
Agree with Rusty, #3

Box · 03/04/2019 at 20:18
Option #5 HOLD!

Russty_ · 03/04/2019 at 02:59
I'd be concerned that there is no rank of 200…there's 10 guys at 197 and then it skips to 207.
This doesn't look like a 200th ranked team to me, sorry but I don't believe you.
If I'm wrong I'll apologise, what's your team name?

Meph · 03/04/2019 at 05:39
I'm 207th flying majakly is my team name. Sorry I rounded up a touch

Nice_Person · 03/04/2019 at 07:11
Don't worry mate, this easily looks like a 200 ranked team.
If I'd seen this team pre round one I'd say your light on in the mids, but it seems to be working right now. Only one I'd look at moving on is Greene.
You're ranked 200 so you don't need to do too much, you don't want to make too many changed and drop off. Focus on a plan to change Walsh or cousins into an uber premo in a few weeks

Russty_ · 03/04/2019 at 14:38
Sorry Meph my bad, 207th now I get it..your team makes me wish I'd started with some midfield midpriced madness now, it's working out well for you. I'd move on Greene too, not sure how long his calf issues will go on for.

The Ranger · 03/04/2019 at 07:43
How much cash have you got?

Meph · 03/04/2019 at 08:07
I have only got $39k so the options for dropping Greene aren't great. Maybe down to Miers for the cash generation and bank the difference to get an uber in asap. Greene probably missing this week so wouldn't change my score this week

Sharkmove_King · 03/04/2019 at 08:25
I'm gonna say something risky cos I believe you should be aggressive and trade fairly hard.
Witherden out for Scrimshaw
Greene out for Kelly

Spifflicator · 03/04/2019 at 08:33
I like this move a lot!

Meph · 03/04/2019 at 08:47
I actually don't mind that. It's a strong consideration.

The Ranger · 03/04/2019 at 16:47
If you do this one check your byes, no point being top 200 before the byes if you're out to 5K after them 'cos you couldn't field 18 players.

Moustachio · 03/04/2019 at 08:27
Keep Heeney.
If you trust Parker to keep scoring well, I would keep Greene too.
If not Greene could ideally go up to Dahl or Williams (swing Moore), but you are short a little cash. Something like Setters -> Miers or Withers -> Williams would do it.
Good luck!

Derek · 03/04/2019 at 12:57
I would start with Clarke on bench with E
If he does good, put Hore on field (assuming he doesn’t get named) and swing Moore to forward line and bench Greene for another week.
If you can hold Greene he could still score very well.
If Clarke stinks, leave Moore in Defence, put Setterfield in bench with E.
If Setterfield stinks you then have to decide before 4.30 what to do with Greene. At least you have 2 players you can loop before you have trade him.
Greene to rookie is a good option, probably Pettruucelle

DavidC · 03/04/2019 at 06:41
Not according to his comments. Gray probably plays more in the forward line and Drew loses midfield minutes.

Spifflicator · 03/04/2019 at 08:37
I agree, this hurts Drew which impacts my fwd line as he has been very handy as an onfield rookie. I dont believe it hurts Boak or Rocky and as an inside bull he might actually help them. Ports game plan is the big reason for the points increase so far, as long as they keep trying to move the ball fast through the middle, Boak and Rocky will continue to score well.

Holty01 · 03/04/2019 at 07:43
I guess we will find out soon enough. But I think Boak will be more effected.

Locked and Loaded · 03/04/2019 at 03:58
Bloody autocorrect on phone has screwed up so much of that comment lmao

Sharkmove_King · 03/04/2019 at 08:21
Yes definitely Patch's Potatoes would view Rockliff as a premium , as he does Rich also.
But some are playing it safe. The way I see it is: if you're playing for rank some many above you have Rockliff. If you trade him in , you don't get the points they've already got.
If you're playing for finals, why not just get 8 premiums that are durable and WILL score 110+ not might.

Locked and Loaded · 03/04/2019 at 08:44
Agree and thats exactly my point opinions are plentiful and if you believe Rocky will be a premo, as hes shown he can be in multiple seasons, then you're not chasing points.

TommyC99 · 03/04/2019 at 10:51
I found this hard to get my head around but from what I can see you’re saying that rocky can now be considered a 550k+ keeper. Don’t ya reckon you’re going a little early? I too see the hype and I’m also pondering the dusty – rocky trade, but he’s played 2 games. I think if he plays 20+ games I think he could very easily produce a M8 keeper average but I think it’s a tad premature to say he’s a premo already

Derek · 03/04/2019 at 12:39
Because there are Premiums and then there are Uber Premiums.
I started Dusty with the hop he would be again an Uber. There is still time.
Rocky won’t be Uber.
Might not make much difference now, but when the whips are cracking at the end of the season, you have Rocky and someone else has Macrae you are in trouble.

Derek · 03/04/2019 at 12:41
Or come end of season, you have Rocky and no trades and someone has Dusty and one trade….. nervous Thursday nights

Locked and Loaded · 03/04/2019 at 22:48
All hypotheticals… you have to look at the stats in front of you and the form they are in… why are we talking about Rocky as if he ain’t capable of being uber premium he has before and can do it again… as I said if you don’t need to fix rookies and going to rocky allows you to fix other issues silly to ignore him because he might not be uber premium at M8 🤷🏼‍♂️

Holty01 · 03/04/2019 at 10:05
I’m moving him on for Kelly. As soon as his ankle is right though, I’ll be eager to get him back in. Problem is his ankle might be better this week and he pumps out 120 but the uncertainty of it because Sydney won’t give to much away worries me.

Lazza · 03/04/2019 at 12:28
Some interesting Heeney data:
Heeney has scored 120 or higher 11 times in his career … so there is a 85% chance that wont happen next week. Or if you base it on last year alone there is a 75% chance that wont happen – if you do the math.. he hit 120+ five 5 times in 2018.
Over his career he has hit the ton 25 times – 19 times in the last 2 years … and he often does that in spurts … in 2017 he twice hit the ton 3 times running and in 2018 had 5 consecutive tons R1 to R5 and 4 consecutive tons R9 to R12…..Last year he was injured in R15 (1st game after the bye) and missed R16 .. but only scored 2 tons after that….. Prior to the bye his average was 107.
In most cases, Heeney needs to kick goals to score tons .. of the 25, only 2 were goalless. But, his role till now has been a FWD or FWD/MID. As a MID/FWD we should see the reliance on goals dissipate.
If we look at his last 2 years he has scored tons in 50% of games..So Holty, there is a fair chance Heeney will ton up very soon … . I'm glad I didn't start him … but once he turns the corner I'll be on him like a flash at hopefully a bargain price.
If you have him, hold him, if you don't, then plan for it.

Derek · 03/04/2019 at 12:33
It is Carlton

Justin · 03/04/2019 at 11:11
I've been shot down already for saying it but I think Dahl will be one of them.

Derek · 03/04/2019 at 12:29
Forward line is the toughest
But the usual crowd will be there at the top
Danger, Heeney, Kelly, Menagola, Smith, Hoff, Hawkins, Buddy, Chad, Gray, Gunston…
They are all capable of having a couple of poor scores (maybe not Danger) and getting them cheaper.

BlooBoiz · 03/04/2019 at 11:57
Considering Heeney and Joyce out for T.Kelly and Scrimshaw as well.
Thoughts and opinions would be great

TRIGGA_HAPPY · 03/04/2019 at 12:02
Like those correctives mate.

TommyC99 · 03/04/2019 at 11:20
Not sure you can compare the 2. LDU is only 19 and in his second year whereas Kelly was 23 and had spent his time in the WAFL. Tim Kelly's price was also low whereas LDU has a very inflated price. You can't compare the 2 just because LDU has had 2 good games. He obviously could very well break out a smiliar way to Kelly, but i wouldnt be sacrificing a 550k+ player for a rookie

Maverick_ · 03/04/2019 at 11:54
yeah I wouldn’t go down to LDU from a premium. Looks to be good value in M.crouch, Sloane or a bont for similar price. Atleast rocky may be solid enough for an M8 by seasons end if u go that path. LDU will need moving on at some point

KeenButClueless · 03/04/2019 at 11:25
A lot of talk about Dusty, Heeney and Dunkley, but unless you feel an overwhelming need to trade, I think you could safely sit on this for another week. You have all the rookies. With so many teams being so similar, then perhaps the biggest advantage you can have is additional trades later in the season.

Derek · 03/04/2019 at 12:15
You have nothing to do this week

TommyC99 · 03/04/2019 at 12:17
You would hold Dusty derek? I'm thinking of doing the same but this is the week to jump on rocky if you were planning on it. I think dusty has to step up with jack, rance, grimes all out, but i still can't see him maintaining his scoring to be top 10

Derek · 03/04/2019 at 16:56
holding Dusty. Don’t think Rocky is top 8, so will cost another trade down the track.

Hawk131415 · 03/04/2019 at 17:53
Dont think Dusty is top 8 either, going Dusty to Rocky will save you cash, as well, Rocky will make you cash and get you more points!

TommyC99 · 03/04/2019 at 18:46
But at the same time, if they should average similar, you hold dusty either until the byes or trade him to a rolled gold premo who has dropped in price. Rocky could save you cash but not sure 2 games is a big enough sample size to assume hes going to average more than dusty, let alone be a keeper

The Ranger · 03/04/2019 at 17:32
Looking good Tommo, hold this week.

The unsullied · 03/04/2019 at 12:01
Who is currently your F4?

Derek · 03/04/2019 at 12:12
Burgoyne wasn’t spending much time in guts, but Howe should be back this week to take Shield place
Problem for Worpel will be when Shield comes back

Derek · 03/04/2019 at 16:45
It feels like he should be cheaper

PizzaSafety · 03/04/2019 at 21:11
I didn’t delete my own comment?? Lol
I said Worpel should be ahead of Howe in centre bounce attendances because they need a clearance winner and are struggling in that department

Lazza · 03/04/2019 at 14:07
I'd expect Drew to be impacted before Boak.

The Ranger · 03/04/2019 at 13:05
I went with Dusty over Neale Ja, partly so I had a bank to start the season with for any correctives and partly because I thought Dusty had to improve on last years efforts.
It's already looking like it might be in my "worst decisions of 2019" list come seasons end!

TommyC99 · 03/04/2019 at 14:06
i did too ranger and for the same reason. What are you’re plans with him now?

BoltonsBlues · 03/04/2019 at 18:45
Neale was this years brownlow smokey, dont know if you're a betting man but i got odds of $41-1, now been crunched into $15 (can get $13 elsewhere)

CHRIS THOMAS · 03/04/2019 at 11:39
Often not trading is the smartest move.

Lekdog · 03/04/2019 at 13:17
Jock will not be returning sadly but Higgo has been active on Twitter again. Cheat Sheet will drop this arvo!

WEST · 03/04/2019 at 14:39
MORE AIR TIME FOR LEK DOG & PATCH. I LIKE IT!! KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK LADS! LOVE THE PODCAST

Lekdog · 03/04/2019 at 14:41
Cheers mate

NO CONNECTION · 03/04/2019 at 14:52
Last i heard Jock was in some sort of trouble with the law?

Hawk131415 · 03/04/2019 at 18:16
Where did you here that??

SON · 03/04/2019 at 16:13
Terrible News. No more Jock. Shattered

DEE · 06/04/2019 at 07:21
Lekdog mate, any chance of getting Crouching One in as a special guest on the PODCAST this year? Would love to hear you both on the same PODCAST! Just a thought…. Wellkkkuuumm!!

GeeGees · 03/04/2019 at 12:14
Negative.
That's a strong hold my man.

TommyC99 · 03/04/2019 at 12:18
Swans have said that he pulled up a little sore, but expected to play

Holty01 · 03/04/2019 at 13:18
He pulled up sore after his last preseason game. I was unaware of this until “nice person” mentioned it. Received a knock to his ankle. Apparently no serious damage but concerning it’s still worrying him almost a month later.

TRIGGA_HAPPY · 03/04/2019 at 12:15
For Lek go Rich!

TommyC99 · 03/04/2019 at 12:24
Stewart – Will be affected by touhy when he returns. Still solid scorer but probably an F4-6 defender
Rich – Could YOLO it but we know his history
Saad – Playing on a very average team. Never averaged about 80. Can he keep this up?
Salem – His first 2 rounds epitomises what his scoring is like. Has a game where he plays a blinder but then will go on a poor run. Like Saad, you would be hoping for a breakout year.
In other words, if youre trading a "premo" you should be trading to rolled gold like you Lairds, Lloyd.

TRIGGA_HAPPY · 03/04/2019 at 12:41
Dont reckon he has the coin tommy

TommyC99 · 03/04/2019 at 13:48
Yeah thought just as much. I guess what I’m trying to say is that I can’t see the point in sideways trading to someone else you may have to sideways trade back out. All those options have questions marks surrounding them.

Derek · 03/04/2019 at 13:10
The bye isn’t good

Hawk131415 · 03/04/2019 at 13:17
Will hurt at bye time

kinglear009 · 03/04/2019 at 18:53
I was considering Danger, Heen, Menegola and now Kelly – 3 at bye time is ok – you can cover it if other lines are light on

James Sykes · 03/04/2019 at 13:56
never liked Yeo…..too much yo-yo with his scores (pardon the pun).
option 3 for me

JohnDJ59 · 03/04/2019 at 14:20
Option 3 and B.Crouch.

DavidC · 03/04/2019 at 12:59
Just select the leagues tab and the info about the current league you are in is on the right side of the page.

Marcus · 04/04/2019 at 00:13
Thanks DavidC.

Beezneez · 03/04/2019 at 14:19
Final 8 bottom 2 sides don't play finals.

Marcus · 04/04/2019 at 00:13
Thank you Beezneez.

Russty_ · 04/04/2019 at 00:30
If it's about Supercoach, it's all on topic Marcus…all good mate.

Sharkmove_King · 03/04/2019 at 13:32
Hold

Lazza · 03/04/2019 at 13:46
Hold

James Sykes · 03/04/2019 at 13:54
I'll be holding

Holty01 · 03/04/2019 at 14:00
I wouldn’t. The blokes scored 112 &78 which isn’t to bad. Wasted trade imo

Derek · 03/04/2019 at 16:40
I have Mundy as well. Narrowed it down to 5 possible trades
Lycett – like the ruck back up, liked him all preseason but didn’t know if he would be #1 ruck. Could be a top 10 forward, maybe. Bank $80k
Butters – swing Drew forward. Only good rookie I don’t have. Bank $380k
Libba – will make as much cash as a rookie and better points. Bank $230k
Sloane – best premium I can afford (already have Kelly and $10k short for Whitfield)
Rocky – Bank $120k
I was originally going Lycett, but not sure he will be good enough, but is the ruck backup and the round 13 bye worth the slightly less points?

neil demons delight · 03/04/2019 at 17:16
Hi Derek We started with the same set ups. At the last hurdle I swapped Whitfield and Hind for Libba and Smith ,giving me 12 prems 2 nidpricers and 2 high priced rooks. so I have the same problem MUNDY/..what to do ? Of all your options I like the Sloan one . For me whitfield or Kelly are my options.Trades are my priority and going less than like for like just doesn't cut it .Having those one or two extra prems in our original teams can only benefit if the mid pricers crash which historically they do// Kelly or whitfield is tough NDD

The Ranger · 03/04/2019 at 17:27
Flip a coin on those two Neil.
Check your bye structure?

Derek · 03/04/2019 at 17:41
i've always liked Sloane, but never even looked at him preseason. I guess the whole not handle the tag scared me away. Same price as Mundy, seems a decent swap. However, i already have MCrouch, Dusty and Merrett, not really Uber premiums. adding Sloane is another one of the second teir.
there is always Gray, Gunston, Devon, Hogan in forward line. all potential top 6 forwards?
gee Kelly looks good though, very happy with starting him in team. Whitfield is $40k more than Kelly, probably would go kelly ahead of Whitfield just on that

The Ranger · 03/04/2019 at 17:26
Same problem for me Derek.
No love for Dahlhaus or Daniels?
I'm very tempted by Daniels, 3 tons out of the last 4 games in 2018 after he was switched to half back and has started this year with 2 tons.
And Dahlhaus has the classic "player at a new club" look about him.
Not sure either player can keep a 100pt av but 90 might be enough for a fwd this year.

James Sykes · 03/04/2019 at 13:53
Parker is definitely more supercoach friendly so if you need the points on ground then Parker is the go.

Sharkmove_King · 03/04/2019 at 16:10
Totally agree if it was a on field difference it's a no brainer….but they would be off field for me

Derek · 03/04/2019 at 16:20
Burgess looked ok. Will be slow but should still make cash.

Holty01 · 03/04/2019 at 13:56
do it as Greene isn’t playing and I can only assume Moore will go straight onfield

JohnDJ59 · 03/04/2019 at 14:45
He got a knock on the ankle in sydney's last JLT game and silly them put him back on, had to be iced during and after the game, not sure why Sydney would risk him during a pre-season game. It is still bothering him, so I'm not taking the risk, even though he is probably a top fwd when fit.

Sharkmove_King · 03/04/2019 at 16:11
Solid trades IMO, will have an immediate impact on your team points wise.

JohnDJ59 · 03/04/2019 at 17:20
Thanks S_K, I sure hope so.

Derek · 03/04/2019 at 16:18
Can you just do the Mills to Lloyd, or do you need the bit of cash that you get from the Kelly trade?

JohnDJ59 · 03/04/2019 at 17:01
Hi Derek, I couldn't do the Mills to Lloyd trade without trading either Simmo or Heeney.

neil demons delight · 03/04/2019 at 16:25
I the other went way John .Kelly and Rozee. So really Rozee and cash or Lloyd.The rationale being, though he was also in my preseason teams, I can't justify the dollars for Lloyd. Rozee will make 100k super quick thus enabling me to pick up either a fallen prem or one of Rocky, Bcrouch or Sheed who by then will still be value and will have proved themselves worthy It's a matter of choice mate cheers

JohnDJ59 · 03/04/2019 at 17:11
Hi Neil I did like the idea of Heeney to Rozee, and the cash banked and cash generation would have been very useful, but I was worried that I would fall too far behind after two sub par scores of 2070 and 2057 to start with and if Heeney does come good at least I will have traded him to another top six fwd in Kelly.

hedski · 03/04/2019 at 19:03
Dahl if your choosing

PizzaSafety · 03/04/2019 at 20:48
Tough one. How much mid time is Dahl getting?
Id probs go to Worpedo due to role/opportunity in the midfield. Dahl could rejuvenate but has dropped off in recent times.

Ja191 · 03/04/2019 at 16:58
Sidebottom but I don’t like any of em

Lazza · 03/04/2019 at 18:49
Greene cos he wont cost you any coin next week whereas the other 2 will.

hedski · 03/04/2019 at 19:04
Will he play next week tho Lazza?

JohnDJ59 · 03/04/2019 at 19:02
Just do it and don't look back.

Jess · 03/04/2019 at 20:14
Hold. Are you worried about greene? You knew the risk and he has a chance of scoring as a premium easily.

Steeeve · 03/04/2019 at 18:35
Middle-aged men averaging two kicks per week are an exception, yes. He will improve but unlikely to be top 6.
Merrett in particular I was desperate to get rid of. He was awful round one. I thought he must have been carrying something. But he has the pedigree and he is in his prime. I'll be disappointed if he averages below 110 from here.

Hawk131415 · 03/04/2019 at 17:50
Butters is mid only Gibbs

hedski · 03/04/2019 at 19:06
Moore or Rozee for DPP and JS over Gryan.

LtDraught · 03/04/2019 at 19:12
Doing the exact same, Red. Im grabbing Rozee simply because I already have Moore thanks to the advice of the community. Of the 3 I would go for Moore as I reckon he has the best JS, scoring potential and you can swing him front and back. Hope this helps mate.

Sharkmove_King · 03/04/2019 at 19:35
If it's a on field spot, has to be Moore

JohnDJ59 · 03/04/2019 at 19:17
Sounds like a plan Holty, I just made the same trade today and I'm not looking back.

Holty01 · 03/04/2019 at 19:34
It’s a tough one to make though as I know I’ll be trying to get him back later but as this is the only trade I’ve had to make, it makes it a bit easier

Jess · 03/04/2019 at 20:09
If you look at heeney's scores from last year he does this kind of thing. Once he gets going he will bring consistent tons. He is only getting older wiser and better. Swans only need to not get smashed and he will kick some snags up 4ward for now

Holty01 · 03/04/2019 at 20:19
True Jess. Just worried about his ankle. But knowing my luck as soon as I trade him his ankle will be better and he’ll pump out a ton.

Hawk131415 · 03/04/2019 at 20:43
Its not poor form, its his ankle thats the problem, not bee stung toe either,

Beezneez · 04/04/2019 at 00:08
Its doing my head in thinking about trading Heeney for Kelly who I had at f4 in my original team. Heeney did ton uo in JLT before the ankle problem. But he may still take some time to hit his straps. Playing forward is not helping and he is about to lose $30k. Might do it for my first trade but will be a last minute decision I'm sure. Have all the right rooks who could fatten enoigh to get him back in. Undecided.

Russty_ · 04/04/2019 at 00:24
Hi Beez, can't see the point really in trading out someone who you'll probably want to get back in again…I'm just gonna leave him there, no matter what he does for now.

Jess · 03/04/2019 at 20:07
Five more games down the track and he could be a 'must have'. Wait till he knocks out a 180 -200 point game and all the non havers freak out. You're right though, his injury risk and sporadic scoring are no good

Jess · 03/04/2019 at 20:04
Look if you have the money it isnt a bad trade. I'd do it

Holty01 · 03/04/2019 at 20:15
Agreed

Holty01 · 03/04/2019 at 20:15
Hi Cam. If Ridley not playing this week I’d do it for sure. You need players earning money early in the season

PizzaSafety · 03/04/2019 at 20:51
The rock man

Maverick_ · 03/04/2019 at 21:05
hard to look past rocky he has been there before so no reason why he can't again.
people keep saying wines will impact him negatively but why can't it help rockys scoring?

Hawk131415 · 03/04/2019 at 20:41
Hahahahahahahhaaaaaa

kinglear009 · 03/04/2019 at 21:58
Depends on how you value Rocky vs Higgins vs Miles vs Macrae. Miles looks very good tbh, not sure you'd trade him. Ridley to Scrim is good, for sure. But Higgins up might be the solution. Kelly within your budget?

Too many midpricers! · 03/04/2019 at 22:15
Unfortunately $5,000 short if i go Ridley to Moore. Just saw Miles only played 69 minutes last week so definitely holding him. Leaning towards just offloading Ridley if not named to either Scrimshaw or Moore. Lets be honest 90% chance Rockliff will burn me if i make that switch!

kinglear009 · 03/04/2019 at 21:56
Burning 2 trades should decrease the risk in your team. Both Dahl or Worpel are very risky players. I foresee future heartbreak and trades in that direction. Smith seems out of Don's mid – but go to a more certain player (Kelly the clear candidate).

kinglear009 · 03/04/2019 at 21:53
Like Greene to Moore, Dusty to a premo makes more sense though. Someone dependable. Neale, Crouch if possible – but Kelly is a gun, good choices all around.

Spilt_milk · 03/04/2019 at 23:24
Is it worth holding greene though to save a trade and waiting till he comes good or do i pull the pin now and jump off the greene train.

kinglear009 · 03/04/2019 at 23:29
I didnt start him, so clearly I'll be more skeptical on his potential than you. His injury is concerning. Meanwhile Moore isn't a lock by any means. Got a 90, sure, but Pies monstered that whole game. Yet his role is solid as the rebounder. Really comes down to your preference for risk and reward. I like Moore.

Russty_ · 03/04/2019 at 23:32
Reckon you need to offload Greene before he becomes a disaster..(misses more weeks)..could happen..and even if he is back next week, he'll be rusty.

kinglear009 · 04/04/2019 at 12:15
I have to say I don't think so. He's fighting with Frost, Hunt and a few others for the spot and it seems he's one off being in the team. Will play games when injury strikes, but I don't see consistency.

Maverick_ · 04/04/2019 at 13:42
I think your right kinglear just Have to weigh up whether his worth a sideways trade too scrimshaw who has the JS

Russty_ · 04/04/2019 at 12:49
I would move him on this week if not named Mav, but I have 2 other problems to take care of first, other rookies always show up too.

Maverick_ · 04/04/2019 at 13:40
I’m thinking even if his named I may do so russty. Scrimshaw should play for a long while making quicker cash and can cull when a fresh cow comes. Hore May take twice as long to make the $$ if his only playing sporadically… he only looks to be injury cover at the dees.

TheScacman · 04/04/2019 at 13:15
Who's coming in for Hore? Not a lot of must-have defensive rookies at this point unless you've missed one of Scrimshaw, Rozee, Duursma, Clark, which are all going to hit your cash reserves. Surely bigger issues to fix rather than burning a trade on Hore? Otherwise hold. Will get games this year, and if you've got one playing rookie on the bench, that's probably okay for the moment

Maverick_ · 04/04/2019 at 13:39
I’m actually missing scrimshaw which is who the trade would be too scacman.. should play every week hore will be a headache every week.

Russty_ · 03/04/2019 at 23:30
1 looks good, less money for the rookie and higher points scoring from the mid.

Russty_ · 04/04/2019 at 00:27
Maybe not Billings yet, he's playing according to his price..Averaging 86, could get better I guess.
I'm just gonna hold off on Heeney, maybe you don't need to do anything?…except if you don't have the best cash-cow rookies?

Ja191 · 04/04/2019 at 12:12
Vs the hawks the Centre bounce attendances were: Macrae 16, Wallis 13, Bont 12, Libba 11, Dunkley 10

Lazza · 04/04/2019 at 12:36
Dunkley is averaging 25 mins per qtr on field but only scoring 0.8 points per minute. Which is 12th best in his own team… The player who scores most ppm is Libba … of the FWDs he is behind Daniel, McLean and Wallis.
We could make some assumptions – there are 8 players rotating through the mid-field – Macrae, Libba, Bont, Wallis, Hunter, Maclean, Dunkley, Smith. Assume Macrae spends most of his time mid and Smith and Libba would cancel each other out. That leaves 5 players sharing 2 MID field positions.Watching the first 2 games Bont and Hunter probably spent 50% game time in the middle. So I'd guess Dunkley, Maclean and Wallis would only be MID for 30% to 40% game time. Over the season this will vary depending on how each are performing on the day.
There is no doubt Libba has taken a fair % of MID time from each of those 3.
Just on Libba: He is scoring @ 1.4 ppm which makes him Top 10 by that measure and equal with Danger. If he stays fit and gets more game time and keeps up that level of performance he could be the POD pick of the season. Right now he is a better choice than Worpel or Sheed. (I don't have him unfortunately )

Russty_ · 04/04/2019 at 12:47
Legend Lazza, great read mate, I've got Libba and with his lowly prediction of 44 this week and a 32K rise, how much coin do you think he'll make if he gets 104 rather than 44?

ZzZCalintZzZ · 04/04/2019 at 12:53
Awesome insight with stats Lazz 💪🏻

ZzZCalintZzZ · 04/04/2019 at 12:57
Also Libba avg 28 touches 5 tackles 6 Inside 50's 7 Centre Clearences.

TRIGGA_HAPPY · 04/04/2019 at 13:59
How did you like my sneaky on Hill in Finns draft league Rust?
Couldn't resist playing the bad guy. 😂

Russty_ · 04/04/2019 at 16:10
Haha no worries mate, I think you got in before me anyway. All's fair in Love and Draft lol

Lazza · 04/04/2019 at 15:09
Hey Russty…. working out the pricing is not an exact science as there is a multiplier each week that only is determined at the end of the Round. It varies because CD have to keep the total of all players salaries the same each week. With that the BE for each player is always understated.
As best we can work out, without knowing the actual formula, new prices are based on (the current price x 75%) plus (the last 3 game average x 25% x the value of a point) x (the weekly multiplier).
The value of a point is approx $5440.75, (this means his nominal average was set at 55).
So, if we use Liibba as an example .. assuming he scores 103 this week, his 3 round average will be 102.
Current Price = $300,400 x 75% = $225,300.
3 Round average = 102. Multiply this by 5441 and by 25% = $138,746.
Add together = $364,000 (rounded). But this then has to be multiplied by the weekly multiplier.
So the difference will be +/- $64K.
Given the rookies generally increase in price, there has to be reduction somewhere… this hits the Premo's mostly as their price is inflated at the start of the season… so given Libba is around mid-priced… I'd expect his increase to be not far off the $64k.
But that multiplier is based on the entire round, so who really knows.
(note to those planning your trades, by mid-year the average price for premo's is around 5% lower than their starting price).

Russty_ · 04/04/2019 at 16:13
Thanks Lazza, jeez you know your numbers mate, hope Libba has another ton this week, that'd be a nice chunk of change (60k)

The Ranger · 04/04/2019 at 16:50
Love ya work Lazza!

Patch · 04/04/2019 at 23:24
Gosh this is phenomenal. My price change formula looks different on paper but ends up with the same result

ZzZCalintZzZ · 04/04/2019 at 12:17
i like Dusty to Sloane. Many reasons why:
1) Sloane is $39,500 cheaper.
2) Sloane has laid 17 tackles. Dusty 0 tackles.
3) Adelaide has 7 home games in their next 10 rounds.
4) Adelaide plays Nth Melbourne, Gold Coast, Fremantle in their next 3 games after this round.
5 Richmond plays Port Adelaide, Sydney, Melbourne in their next 3 games after this round. Sydney and Melbourne will find their mojo by then.

KSinny · 04/04/2019 at 13:16
Thanks for the reply mate! I Definatly rate Sloane as a top tier player and could easily finish a top 8 mid like he did a couple years ago. Only thing that worries me is how he can be easily tagged out of the game, but with both the crouch brothers playing maybe he won't get as much attention.

ZzZCalintZzZ · 04/04/2019 at 13:21
Yeah that's the upside with Sloane having the Crouch Bros and Laird with him. Last year the Crows did not have all 3 constistantly on the park with Sloane, heck even Sloane missed many games. Think currently Sloane is safe from a direct hard tag while the others are on the ground with him.

KSinny · 04/04/2019 at 13:30
Cheers mate lets just hope he keeps up this form

TheScacman · 04/04/2019 at 13:18
I'd lock Neale in as a top mid if you think that's where he's going to finish. Dusty not looking 100% at the moment – whether that's a fitness concern or an effort issue (highlighted by his zero tackles), I definitely wouldn't be holding him. Just as likely to drop 80 this week as he is to get a score in the 100s, and that's just now what we're paying for. Sloane also a good option if you want to hold some bank

ZzZCalintZzZ · 04/04/2019 at 12:46
Man you need Cripps then

TheScacman · 04/04/2019 at 13:15
Cripps all day. Going to finish in the top couple of mids this year. Machine.

JohnDJ59 · 04/04/2019 at 16:08
I was going Heeney to Rozee, but I have most of the good rookies so changed to Kelly.

Derek · 04/04/2019 at 14:46
Worpel not a keeper.
You are going backwards by not going from a keeper to another keeper.
I’m going Mundy to Sloane

Derek · 04/04/2019 at 14:47
Or Kelly if you don’t have a swing

The Ranger · 04/04/2019 at 14:56
Kelly ruins my byes and I don't want to lose my swing so can't go to a mid.
You don't think Worpel would suffice as an M9/F8?
Bit early to be thinking about that I know.

JohnDJ59 · 04/04/2019 at 16:00
I do.

Redd · 04/04/2019 at 14:32
Mills at D1…. ouch. Heeney to Kelly or Dalhaus and Mills to the best Def tou csn afford!

JohnDJ59 · 04/04/2019 at 16:02
Mills to Lloyd, Heeney to Worpel.

Redd · 04/04/2019 at 14:29
Fix your rookies and VC Danger!

Russty_ · 04/04/2019 at 16:18
I'd offload the non playing rookies SC, otherwise they're dead weight not making you a cent.
VC Danger.

kinglear009 · 04/04/2019 at 16:45
Fix Rookies! Brander for Duursma (swap Rozee)

Redd · 04/04/2019 at 14:27
Parker

Twilightingale · 04/04/2019 at 14:33
Lincoln out this week

Maverick_ · 04/04/2019 at 14:51
Rozee. Good JS an can score decent enough

dontblushbaby · 04/04/2019 at 15:04
Kid can play, they must rate him if he is ahead of RCD, Ross ect

Russty_ · 04/04/2019 at 16:16
Hi skepp..I think if you're intent on getting rid of Simmo, I'd be looking to get the best replacement you can like Lloyd.

BomberKnighta · 04/04/2019 at 20:27
Got on your twitch tonight and asked about menagola with about 10 mins before game. I was keen to pull the trigger and you reminded me of last year! I was sooooo close!!! Needed the reminder Lek, cheers. Great stream guys, get on board.

Patch · 04/04/2019 at 23:21
He's bloody good, isn't he?

Hawk131415 · 05/04/2019 at 10:50
Whats the go with the site boys???

Lekdog · 05/04/2019 at 10:53
Glad you listened my brother!