Supercoach Standing Room | Round 2
Go on. Just do it. Abuse the Bombers. We deserve it. Denigrate us, attack us, sledge us. Let it all out. Go on.
Notes from this week
- DO. NOT. TRADE. YOU. PREMIUMS.
- The Cox Curse is dead! Long live the Cox Curse!
- Thomas bloody Rockliff
- Essendon suck
What’s caught your eye? How are you tracking for round two?
Every year i get sucked into "traps" this year, bloody Dustin Martin, what an over rated, 1 season wonder
Agreed, luckily this year I didn’t fall for the hype
But what a season that was … probably never to be repeated…
looks like my two correctives this week will be Martin and Yeo.. to Fyfe and …. don’t know who yet..
Yeo still looks good – got tagged by one of the best and 7 frees against, I repeat, 7. More likely to have been a once off than Dustin 'what's a tackle' Martin
Neale if you can or M Crouch or Sloanedog Millionaire
I went off Dusty when I heard about his mental health battles he's been having.
I thought, great he is over them. Maybe he isn’t
He did get a close tag and Richmond got killed
Won’t be getting rid of him yet
DRUGS? So over this mental health bullshit. It's a slap in the face who really have mental health issues. The AFL is oiss weak.
How good is Oliver & Gawn 😍
What, you didn't trade them out after last week?
Oliver is a freak
Had C on him last week, just happy to have him this week
Hoping for a 100 point second half from Coniglio!
Think theres a lot of people under estimating how good Geelong are going to be this year. Towled up Collingwood and now Melbourne, and they steam rolled the last 5 games of last season.
Time to be checking out: Tom Stewart, Tim Kelly and Luke Dalhaus
I agree but I’m a Geelong supporter;)
Yeah Stewart said before the season started he's looking forward to his best year so far, and Dahl seems to be fitting in really well at the Cats and is re-invigorated, Kelly's just a gun and getting better, Cats could be serious contenders this year. Great rookies too.
Post MaSlaone did pop in to tell us he'd be an excellent pick… he wasn't even on my radar
I think he's an excellent pick, but will wait to see how Touhy gets back affects him, if he gets back.
Wouldn't say they "toweled" up Collingwood, they took part in a very close contest and just got the win in the final moment. Either team could've taken the 4 points then
Exactly Pies lost it Geelong didn't win it. Cats very good team though.
One unbelievable stat … Melbourne won the FWD 50 entries 72 to 48 and lose by 14 goals … that’s one helluva back line performance..
Cats do that. They win games they shouldn’t
Imagine what they would do with a decent Ruck
Kelly is now a must have.
Touhy will effect Stewart’s scoring
Pies lost it. Towel up is 4 goals plus surely? Cats look good so far though.
The Guns are back in force this week: Grundy, Gawn, Oliver, Danger
Thank Ablett snr
Had Danger as VC but I did not realise this wouldn’t allow me to use his VC score with Grundy and Gawn already playing. Big mistake. Oh well let’s hope Fyfe dominates
Happened to alot of us me thinks
Very tempted to trade hanley to Ballard, Thoughts?
At that price point, consistency looks like Moore and risk is everywhere so good luck, Ballard had the best final quarter I've seen in a while but not sure that translates to SC points
Should you get rid of heeney? Not really in form and looks to be mainly forward with not much mid time
I’m seriously considering it Simon. I have no doubt he’ll come good eventually and could be worth holding from that regard.. but I think it’s worth capitalising on the cheap mid pricers who are going to go up a crap load in value and produce better output while Heeney falls in price.
For that reason, I’m considering:
Heeney -> Darcy Moore
Mid rookie -> Rockliff or Sheed
Some might say it’s burning trades but even if Rocky or Sheed taper off in form – makes good bench cover later in the season!
I would hold Henney he is in 50 per cent of teams and is a forward I still think he will be a top 6 forward.
Rocky and Sheed are unlikely to be top 8, too early to be thinking about bench cover.
Wines and Gaff will effect their scores, not sure how much.
Heeney is a gun and will come good, but if you are trading him, just get Kelly
I'm giving serious thought to going Heeney to Boak to save 51K also Heeny expected to drop 30K in value after round 3, Boak set to increase 30K so it would be a double saving.
The only worry i have is that Boak has burned me in the past and with Wines due to come back in could impact his scoring in the near future.
Horse said hes been playing through an ankle injury, which is why he hasn't been running through the guts like we would have hoped. Expect more mid time in the coming weeks, so i will be holding
The reason I'll keep him is that he kicked a goal this week which was disallowed and cost him a 50 meter penalty. That's a 20 point turnaround you'd think, so his output could easily have been 85-90, which is hardly trade worthy. Yet.
The problem with that theory is that he didn’t kick a goal.. the 50 mtr was unfortunate .. but you cannot count his non-goal it was a non reality
Kade Simpson has got 83 and 72. Trade or hold
A fellow Kade owner here, worried about newmans effect now on his scoring. I know he has always been a top 8 defender, but this year is starting to worry me with newman in the back line possibly taking points.
Starting to think maybe a corrective trade early to jake lloyd who is only slightly more than him atm might be reasonable, but i don't like sideways trading. If he ever does end up averaging even like a D6 then could consider picking him up cheaper at the end of year.
Im leaning towards trading to Jake Lloyd considering his is only 30k extra
Sounds about right, Lloyd might only get more expensive if he keeps churning out those tonnes. A sneaky cash gen option would be darcy moore if not owned, but i think its safer to go with the gun.
Been sleeveless two weeks running. That's almost a justification for trading in and of itself, but we'll unpack it on the pod
Agree Patch, liken him to the biblical Sampson, lost his Sleeves/ Hair, lost his power, maybe he's just getting old and thinking about playing AFL on PS4
Spot on Russty, just like Christian Slater
I'm a Port fan and was at the match, Dad beside me was disparaging our team when the Blues were getting up on us and I repeatedly reminded him to keep faith with the boys… after three quarters I'd finally had enuf and set him straight – "There is not a single sleeve on a single Carlton player, they CANNOT win!!!"
I'm wondering the same thing Bont.
I'm starting to think picking Ryan Clarke as a POD and a defender who was going to play mostly mid might have been a mistake.
Yep, might get dropped after the last performance. I had him in my team at one stage, this game really does come down to a lot of luck.
Just to show how much luck there is in this game.
I didn't VC Grundy (1st mistake)
I then put the VC on Crouch (2nd mistake, should have been Cripps)
I was then a bit scared off by Cripps, So I went with Danger.
Not gloating, and its only a 20 odd point gain from Grundy, just wanna show how much luck is involved in this game
Spot on Shark, what happens this week could or couldnt happen next week, i didnt vc Grundy either, wasnt happy with his form, so vc"d Cogs, mistake, but not normally, so Fyfe better go big with the C om him.,,,,
Haha we did the same thing except I went for Cripps – so dependable for that 110-130 result while I thought Harmes would lock out Danger but instead he went to Kelly. Can't complain, still better than Oliver as Captain last week!
Danger is my perma C
My VC is any of Grundy, Oliver, Gawn, Cripps who play before Danger.
I had VC cut off at 139. This week I weakened and stuck with Grundys 137. Gave away 17 points.
There is a late out at North.. don’t know who, but Tarryn Thomas is in..
Thinking of putting the C on Macrae, Ross might decide to rest Fyfe a bit today playing against GC, might even pull him off early in the last,, thoughts???
The did that last week, sat out most of last quarter, had a bit of a sore hip and they didn’t want to risk him.
Thats what im afraid of Derek, this is an easier game
Reminds me of the days having Sam Mitchell in my team. Would be 110 at 3/4 time and finish on 105.
Yes sir, remember those days, Would you risk it or go Macrae?? leaning towards Macrae,
A few things standing out:
1) weak rucks are getting heavily scored against. Carlton, GWS, Cats and Fremantle, opposition tuck have scored very well. Lycett, Hickey, Nank, Gawn, Goldy. Might be more relevant for Draft match ups.
2) JLT is over and teams are tagging the opponents best players. Gawn, Cogs, Dusty, Merrett, Laird, Yeo. Expect a couple of poor scores during the year from your premiums, that is why they are premiums.
3) there is still some life in the old brigade. Jelwood, Pendlebury, JPK, Boak, Gray, Rocky. The mammoth curve is alive and happening. One of the greatest articles ever written was on the players who are nearing the end of their career and can see the extinction coming, so they steel themselves for one last crack at it. Massive PODs and great value and very durable.
Anyone else noticing stuff?
I've noticed that Bailey Scott seems to be playing in a position that always has him away from the ball. Ball on the left wing? I'll just sit on the opposite side of the ground. Oh the balls coming over to my wing now? Let me switch to the other wing. Ball spending a lot of time in the centre of the ground? Let me stand on the top of our 50 arc. Balls now in my 50? Where am i? oh that's right im somehow running off my defensive 50. Makes for an incredibly frustrating watch
Hahahahahaha, ive noticed that too, watching his bald head and thinking "get in there" he looks tired, and interested, especialy that contest just outside his defensive 50, kept backing away from the contest that was 1m in front of him!!
Well that games done for me, over to the Hawks game,,,
Great observation Derek, definitely noticed the old heads scoring well, Accept Goldy today, spudding it up
I've noticed Goldstein is a shadow of his AA form. Crack in FFS!
Butters off for Scott isn't looking very good atm
Constable and Butters on the bench rip
Did the same KSin
Yep. After last week, had to have Scott on field against Lions. Only 64% TOG to half time for Scott. Hopefully he is fresh and run the game out
Yeah so did I shattered i’ve Missed 60 points there. That ruins my chances for 2300 probably struggle to reach 2200
i feel for anyone who went early on bailey scott this week because after today i would have passed.
I have never seen anyone so disinterested and avoid the football as much as he did all day…
i don't know what changed from last week he was a completely different player today.
Agreed Mav, didnt want to go near it
Well Scott on field doesnt help
Hi All is the Supercoach coring not working at present? My phone App and website are showing nil SC points in Hawks V Dogs and the North V Lions game seems to have stopped at 3 QTR time? Any ideas what is going on?
Final scores from the North vs Brisbane game on the supercoach website dont seem right
They only add up to about 2500
okay good, because scott with 26 seems pi$s poor
that's exactly what he was cash cow, piss poor! he will be lucky to have scored 35 if that 26 is incorrect.
They locked in the 3/4 time scores lol
they better adjust that or I'm quitting what a joke
How do they have DT scores but not SC??
That has me relieved if that’s the case cause 102 SC for Neale after 43 touches was having me tear my hair out!
Fanfooty incorrect scores for Hawks & Dogs, only DT Scores,no SC, nothing for Freo & Suns just have to be patient ,which i'm not good at
No way thats correct
How the f$&K does Neale only score 102. 43 touches at 86% – ???
3/4 time score mate. Some Nigerians hacked the scoring system and it crashed.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Thank Christ for that, was at the game
It's still showing up 102 on my Supercoach??? Surely not.
Yeah I don't understand why that game has not been fixed
I hope that match is fixed soon otherwise I’ll get anxious
dogs v hawks are finalised and still nothing changed with lions or north? surely they are updating them?!
They have to it was 3 QTR time scores
Champion Data have had a system overload their hoping it will be fixed soon!
lIKE IVE BEEN SAYING, ITS NOW TOUCH FOOTY, YOUVE WRECKED THIS GAME!!!!!!
Umpire threatening to report for swearing???? games a f%$#ing joke
I really hate Sunday’s
Hawks lose one they should have won
Mundy has no idea how to get the ball
2 words
LIBBBBAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!! & sicily….
soft frees yes but he got hot under the collar and couldn't stay cool when the game was in the balance
Dude, he did what they were doing, how pick him out for a free??? bullshit
Na they try and get a reaction out of him which they achieved, he just has to keep his hands to himself
They were all doing it!! how do you pick him??? be serious!
If you think that shit is a free kick then youre part of the problem!!!
Sicily's history of foolish hotheaded acts has come back to bite him. Teams now target his rage and umpires are unlikely to be very sympathetic when he loses it.
The reason they changed the game started with the hawks 5 metre kicks
Libba got approx 22 points for his goal
Seriously how does that work??
no different to constable, bont & westhoff in round 1 they all got 20+ pts for there late goals in tight games…
Thats ridiculious, like my spelling
Didn't you like that goal Hawk? 😉
Match sealing goal. Macrae also got extra points for his goal.
DELICIOUS
Any idea what par is this week? I ended up on 2284 before Bailey Scotts additional points are added, so i feel like 2250-2300 is probably around the mark
i scored 2200 with heeney, dunkley and goldy all under achieving aurora. i think 2250-2300 is a pretty good score
Worst than last week, will just make it to 2000 if lucky. Stuffed up my C big time.
Who'd you stick the C on mate?
I had the VC on Cripps and the C on Danger, I was going to go with Danger until the last minute, I put it on Fyfe.
124 is hardly a stuff up. I picked Oliver last week and Cripps this week: that's a poor captaincy right there!!
Hi King yes 124 is alright, just under my 125 preferred score, the stuff up was taking it off Danger 154, if I had planned on Fyfe in the first place it would have been a good score.
I think Scott lost points in the last quarter
Captain Fyfe and Ballard need at least 30 points from both of you
Thank God i fielded Libba over scott lol would’ve just deleted my team,
Dunkley thoooo….. do we trade him to a Boak type?
Only made the one trade thus far (Hanley the irish spud to Ballard)
I don’t normally like sideways trades, but Dunkley to T Kelly for me next week. 2 weeks, no tonnes, no good! I laboured long and hard over the Dunkley V T.Kelly F3 decision pre Rd 1. Made the wrong one, and now it’s time to correct it. Kelly is a bonifide mid whereas Dunkley isn’t.
Out of Dunkley or Heeney methinks.
Do I trade Mundy? 73 and not even looking like going past that this week…..
He has made the decision very easy
64% TOG and NIL touches in last quarter, the game has gone past him
Thoughts on Worpel?
Liking him a lot, playing pure mid, dunno if he makes the top 6 tho, am considering myself
I was big on him pre season, didn't end up selecting him but seems like a good option.
Looks to have picked up the pieces from Titch. Not gonna lie, bloody tempted by him
Over the season, who do you think will be Top 6… Worpel or Gunston ? Mind you, with the injuries to Shiels and Burgoyne it could be positive for Worpel.. or the whole house might come tumbling down..
for 20k more you can get a proven player who is averaging 20 points more. Do you think Worpel is a keeper?
I'm seriously considering turning Heeney (85, 67) into Worpel (110, 92)
Cmon Supercoach open, im in the mood for some rage trading!!
That makes two of us. Billings and Goldy are two that are in my gun this week mate. Both scheit.
I feel for the Goldy owners, not so much for Billings owners, hes a burn man, got me last year,,,id give Goldy one more shot, today he was terrible,,,
Sam ‘The Interceptor’ Collins will keep his spot on my team after all.
Collins has just escaped the noose.
Was hoping bailey scott would've gone at least up to 50 once the champion data server was back online, turns out he lost 2 points in a whole quarter!
Love that I put butters off for him last second
Ooh that hurts mate
I think that happened to a lot of us. although I had a few minutes left.
Mundy definitely gone next week!!!!!! Doesn’t even get the minutes. Nth and suns 1st up, why did l go there.
Same mate. 73 and 40 are not good enough… Time to get rid of him
100% gone 65 minutes game time cant cover the the ground plonks himself in the middle and just ball watches.
He has made the decision very easy
Game has moved past old man Mundy
Who to trade him for? Already ave Kelly
Worpedo? I’m liking Dunkley to worp freeing up cash to go hore to moore
Dunkley is playing GC next week, bit brave
Only way to get moore in, not liking his time in mids way too many wb mids
Don't trade Dunkley….
Lycett Derek? Not because of this week’s points, although that high ceiling is encouraging, but for ruck cover. Bye friendly as well.
Have a few options Derek Mundy to Kelly or might gamble with going down to Moore. Bank the coin then reassess
Travis Boak Derek.
Mundy is done, cooked, and dusted. Move him on mate. Have a look at Travis Boak as a replacement. Cheers mate.
I absolutely dodged that bullet. A very near miss. I was close to not starting Grundy, putting Lycett into R2 and having Mundy as F3. If I had been able to put the leftover Grundy money to good use, I would have done it. Instead I ran Lycett as F3. Those 50:50 decisions can really make or break the season, and at different times it might look different. But today I am so happy, that the other blemishes in my team look like nothing.
Mundy was in and out of my team all pre-season, then just before Round 1 I went with Neale, dodged a bullet there.
Could everyone do me a favour and not jump on Kelly this week? We all know that if everyone trades him in he'll have a stinker, it's the first rule of supercoach!
That's the worry.
I agree, he’s my pod haha
Allow me to be the first to apologise for ruining him
already in mine…. dark horse for the brownlow I reckon!
Could definitely see him poll highly like brayshaw last year, i reckon he got the three points in rd 1
How do I sad react on intensedebate?
Right!…Jumping on Josh and Tim Kelly LOL
2315 could have been much better if I benched spudderfield instead of Parker. But on the other hand if Ridley and Hore hadn't been dropped I wouldn't have fielded Collins. Snakes and Ladders
Only scored 2184 🙁 would had an extra 65 points if I hadn't of benched butters for Scott last second. How's everyone else's scores?
Got the consistent 2222
Richie would be proud. Nipped me by one!
2270, was unfortunate to cop the Scott 20 onfield with butters and constable on bench, sucked in by last week
2190 with scott on field, instead of constable.
2,227
Ended up with 2188 after 2217 last week. (4405 for 2 rounds) Pretty happy to get a consistent start with 2 solid scores, not great but decent.
2289 after 2120 last week Martin, Heeny and Goldstein all spudded up big time this week.
4 points in it between us mate! You just ahead on 4409. We might be on the same screen when we check our rankings.
2221. Scott onfield instead of Constable and starting Heeney the biggest disappointments this week
2358. Inside the top 1000 in my first time in doing sc for six years. Good call leav i by constable on the field and benching Scott.
Bloody awesome this week Big G….that's a top-notch score this week, well done fella.
Thanks Russty.
Stop yer whining, 2184 is a good score!…just joshin with ya Sinny, decent score this week, I think we all had Scott on field this week, what a bust!.
😂😂 not a great start to the year only got 2086 last well then 2184 this week but I guess I started off last year pretty slow aswell
I had 2000 exactly last week, 66000 lol, you're starting ok mate. Bloody Scott though ay?!
Ik I wouldn't be as annoyed if it wasn't a last second decision to bring him in 😂 what rank did u end up last year?
2141. Heeney, Goldy and Dusty all turds 🙁
Go Catters
Absolutely!
Is there anyone that sees Dunkley's role as similar to Menegola's?
Ahhh sort of? I don’t think menners gets much centre bounce giggs, that said I didn’t watch the cats game this week
He more rotated through there with bont and Wallis while people rest forward etc
17 Centre Bounces attended, just missed targets on the day
I am an owner of jack Steele and saw him getting the tagger icon on fanfooty, he has been solid but his role has me worried, considering swapping to tkelly and switching kelly forward when the time comes, or even down to worp to free up cash. Any thoughts? I’ll probably just ride iit out but 30pts at half time and finishing on 100+ 2 weeks in a row has me worried
115 and 100 is fine mate. Nothing to be worried about at all. He only needs a few more touches a game to go with his tackles and he will be flying. Don't waste a trade on him, not worth it trust me.
Probably just gonna back him in and hold if he starts to hard tag and stink it I can chop him up then
Just with sheed and others I don’t have thought I may preemptively avoid a potential decline in his scoring
He was a tagger last year and played really well. 90-100 will be his flaw this year which is not bad
He's alright Sam, maybe not top 8 though, but this game works in strange ways, there are several different ways to end up at a good rank.
Sometimes, sticking with a non top 8 mid, helps you to get em when you need em, at the end of the season.
Gotta make sure you have enough trades left though.
Look if he can just plod along at this average it would of put him right up there last year haha probably too 8 from memory, I’ve nailed all the rookie selections only thing I’ve missed is rocky and sheed and perhaps worpel
Apart from that sitting at top 3% 4400 points, other mids maybe just looking a bit better because it’s early season but already the guns are showing some inconsistencies
I guess the question is how worth is it to bring in sheed/rocky/worp it’s all a downgrade Banking 100k and losing no points
Bye Mundy
Gee I was glad to go Dunkley over him, although not sold on the dunkman just yet
Neil how did you crack 6300 points after 2 rounds?
$50k in your skyrocket already!!! 👍🤣
Holty and Brownlow Boy you're up there too
Holty had a huge score this week. He has left me behind in the rear view mirror. I think he is 132 points ahead of me now. Inside the top 1000 for both I think.
Hehehehehe. Did Neil hack the SC game platform algorithm and flick a few points his way? And he thought we wouldn't notice? LOL
I think so Topps, the 3 I mentioned were all above 6300 points last I checked
think they took my points, im on about 1500 after 2 rds
dusty- tom Rockliff? or Sheed, Fyfe
I'm going Dusty to Fyfe
2290 could have been 2350 without switching constable to Scott two minutes before the bounce! Feeling very confident in my team though.
I'm also holding Heeney – the Swans need him around the ball sooner rather than later. In a couple of weeks he'll be over the ankle and back where he belongs. Even as a forward he is still capable of averaging 90+. The forward line is so unpredictable at the moment that that is almost enough for a top 6 spot.
Anyone thinking of making any trades this week?
really want Moore but can't seem to find a way to get him in without sacrificing a player i dont want to, oh well cant have them all
Hi Finn, I have to wait on Greene's status and if a few rookies are named but I'm definitely looking to trade this week, I just got home from the Beach, wtf happened with Scott and Goldy today?…poxy scores.
Kinda hoping Greene isnt named so i have an excuse to trade him down to Moore and setterfield up to Worpel
Yep Mundy out… not sure who to go with though
Travis Boak is the best option i think mate
Going with my planned trades of Mills > Moore and Heeney > Rozee.
Don’t do it!!
Yep. Ridley to Constable via Duursma swing and Dusty to Fyfe.
I want to trade but Hore seems like my only problem, I think I should just hold and go into round 3 with 30 trades for the first time ever.
Not thinking .. have to
Boak or Kelly?
Thinking this too!
Also Bith heeney and dunkley to consider chopping?
Kelly if i had to pick
Boak, Drew and Rockcliff all could be impacted by the return on Wines
Kelly.
Just got home, did Goldy's rucktime get reduced by Campbell, and did Scott get injured or was he just shizenhouzer?
Yeah his ruck time was reduced but he lacked intensity and didn't get his hands on it enough in general. Scott had a case of the second game blues hard, he'll be ok
Cheers NL, disappointing those 2 but at least I got 2228 this week, big improvement on last week.
Hey Russty. I have Goldy also mate, frustrating watching him not get the ball… thinking we have to hold him? I have to trade out Mundy this week sadly 🙁 73 and 35 are just not good signs at all
Yeh think we have to holdy Goldy for now GD…35 is a bit akin to disastrous for Mundy, think he might have to go…..can you go to Worpel?…if you don't have him already ?looks like he could be ok.
I'm gonna back Goldy, could be his worst game for the year I hope.
Worpel or would Boak/Kelly be better?
Kelly best for sure!
Only problem Is Kelly has a crap Bye and Boak a good one
Stuff the byes mate…you'll make 10 trades before then.
Port fans – anyone know when Hartlett will be back? He's sitting on my bench in my draft team, wondering if it's worth keeping him
Not a Port fan but I believe he played in the SAFL on the weekend and should be available for selection. Should come straight in for Watts.
Heeney or Dunkley for T.Kelly?
Hold both. Heeney will get over his niggle and Longmire is sure to realize he is needed for stoppages and center bounces. Dunkley just a down game, will continue to do well in midfield, doesn't look like anything will change that.
Neither
Of course I know you are both right, but boy am I tempted.
I think Kelly's better than both of them Rocksta.
Have u used a trade yet? I’m going Kelly.
Anxious wait for Thursday night, does Balta come back, do Wilkie and Scott keep their spot, does Greene play?
Amon and Watts injuries strengthen the 4 Port rookies job security, Wines and Hartlett close to returning might have resulted in some very unlucky Port players making way for them.
Yeah much as I'd like to trade right now, gonna have to wait for what's happening with the rooks and Greene karate kicking champion flog…lol
According to Cameron, Greene is 50/50 to play This week..
Reckon I'll pish him off for Kelly, bandaid off quick!
Very unlikely I’ll trade Dusty but half tempted to go Dusty & Greene for Lloyd & LDU.
Lloyd the only player I’m worried about hurting me that I don’t have. Continuing his form form last year. Also gets rid of two potential headaches.
Anyone know what happened to Coniglio and Westoff?
Didn't watch but fanfooty said he was tagged.
Didnt watch either game but fanfooty said Hutchings was tagging Coniglio. Not sure about Westhoff
Neither player is capable of averaging 150 for a whole season. The negative outliers (this week) balance out the positive outliers (last week) in their scoring
Cogs got tagged by Hutchings, and Lycett scored 167 in the Ruck, Westhoff, not 5 goals this week, and not much ball. Maybe he was hungover.
Thanks guys
Cogs tagged by Hutchins. Westoff playing a shitty forward role, he needed 5 goals last week to score well.
Hoff always throws up half a dozen spud games and Coniglio was a trap that sprung shut.
Mundy to Boak or Kelly?
Out of those 2, who are doing quite well, I'd go Kelly. he was a rookie last year and is now a premo, much like Oliver was in his second year, Boak is older and not as exciting.
Kelly for sure
Scored 2162 this week after a 2105 last week, bit of a slow start but only 2 rounds in so early days. Using both trades this week to flick a couple of underperforming midpricers and getting the 2 cashcows I haven't already got.
OUT Tobias IN Parker
OUT McGrath IN Constable
Leaves me with a massive $620K in the bank and the following team:
DEF: Lloyd, Williams, Smith, Scrimshaw, Clark, Duursma (Collins, Hore)
MID: Jelwood, Dusty, Brayshaw, Libba, Cousins, Walsh, Drew, Scott (Butters, Constable, Gibbons)
RUC: Grundy, Gawn (Bines)
FWD: Danger, Hoff, Heeney, Dahl, Moore, Petruccelle (Setterfield, Parker)
Hopefully won't be too far back when I'm ready to start upgrading to premo!
Your doing well if ya scored 2100+ an have 600k in the bank .
What if Greene is named this week? Set to only miss one
Yeap comrads I put two duds in my team which one you think I should trade this week Jack Steven (was hoping for old form) or Sam Jacobs . Can only trade one as I've traded Wilkie for Parker.
Jacobs hurt his ankle Friday night so he might be doubtful next week anyway.
CHOO CHOO
All aboard the Rocky train fellas, shoulders are better and he's looking far more confident around the ball. Would've cracked 150 if the weather didn't turn to sh*t and he didnt start getting tagged.
It's a big risk but if it pays off it'll put me ahead of the pack. I normally play SC very conservatively but this year i'm gonna just have a crack, here's hoping Wines coming back in doesn't effect him too badly
He's looking the goods, much fitter than last year, would love to slot him in my midfield but sadly nowhere to put him. Would have upgraded Libba to him if Libba was poor today but turned out to do (really) well. It's a risk, but definitely a risk worth taking.
I reckon Wines will knock Boak out of the midfield rotation ahead of Rocky, Borealis, but I'd love for a Port fan to give a more in-depth analysis
Rockliff won't play fwd because they won't risk his shoulders. For that reason Ebert is playing fwd, highly likely Boak will play 50/50 mid/fwd or mid/def depending on game situation and match ups. Rockliff will be a pure mid in this new Port team
Agreed that Rocky is ahead of Boak in that regard but i think they can all three share it pretty comfortably, ebert will remain predominately forward for the rest of the season you'd imagine
Interesting stats (maybe) after first 2 rounds if you're after a bit of consistency:
Defenders scoring 90+ each round
R1 R2 Av Price
LloydSYD 131 124127.5 $608,200
WhitfieldGWS 105 123114 $542,100
Rich BRL 97 127112 $428,200
SaadESS 114 104109 $407,600
StewartGEE 95 120107.5 $463,000
Midfielders scoring 100+ each round
R1 R2 Av Price
Fyfe FRE147124135..5 $618,100
Neale BRL127140133.5 $607,300
Sloane ADL155105130 $524,300
Macrae WBD132127129.5 $689,700
Rockliff PTA138116127 $405,900
Sheed WCE 144100122 $394,100
Cripps CAR 126116121 $648,200
Hill FRE108133120.5 $426,700
Treloar COL102135118.5 $594,200
Shiel ESS101116108.5 $487,000
McCluggageBRL114103108.5 $416,800
Steele STK115100107.5 $512,600
Polec NTH 100110105 $513,500
O'Meara HAW105104104.5 $503,200
Shuey WCE 101105103 $492,700
Duncan GEE 100103101.5 $576,500
Rucks scoring 100+ each round
R1R2AvPrice
McEvoyHAW102104103$553,100
Forwards scoring 90+ each round
R1R2AvPrice
DangerfieldGEE 97154125.5 $660,500
Boak PTA119123121$478,000
Daniel WBD 104120112 $418,500
Kelly GEE 106111108.5 $505,800
Gunston HAW 103110106.5 $521,400
Dahlhaus GEE 102105103.5 $418,300
Worpel HAW 11092101 $395,700
Gray PTA9110698.5$525,500
Sexton GCS 9310498.5 $329,700
Drew PTA1039096.5$123,900
Bruce STK959796$268,500
McLean WBD 959293.5 $514,000
Appreciate the effort but posting a table often looses its format. Try PDF or jpg. Hope that helps.
Thoughts on Taranto to Rocky and Dunkley to Kelly as corrective trades before price changes?
Whilst Kelly is a must have (after only 2 rounds) who are your tradeable FWDs? I wouldn’t be trading Dunkley just yet…
Danger Heeney Dunkley and then 3 rookies
Very risky points chasing. Rocky was totally shut down after half time by spudderfield and Dunkley scored 98 week one.
If you want to dump Tarzanaranto swap him for somebody cheap who is scoring well, there are heaps of sub 300k players averaging mid80's to mid 90's
I'm considering Taranto to Rockliff too as an early corrective + starts building my cash reserves.
I wouldn’t trade Dunkley- you’ll regret it for sure.
Was dubious about Martin this year but was swayed bye everyone's confidence in him. He burnt me last year and get the feeling he's going to be around the 100 average this year. I think Sheed will average more at 170k cheaper and free up the potential for an early premo upgrade. I've got Simpson and Heeney but think they will bounce back but Martin I've got no confidence in. Crazy to flick him??
I think Gaff is back this week which may affect Sheed's scoring.
Not sure Poloko, Sheed is still only 23, and Gaff will be rusty, Sheed might be doing what Oliver did in his second year.
Simpson = fools gold .. the SC champ’s dawn has arrived
I didn't have any confidence in him after last year and I wasn't swayed by anyone, you need to own your decisions, not blame other people for them.
Might not mean anything but Boak averaged 98 pre bye last season, dropped off to 81 post bye. It's unclear what the supercoach impact is on every port midfielder with the inclusion of WInes.
May not be the best time to trade him in with already missing out on 2 of his better games and if his midfield minutes / center bounce attendances are impacted by WInes. Just something to think about since there's a few Boak related posts. Well done for everyone who started him, especially with his very low ownership.
Decided to go Kelly instead
Martin > Sloane
Heeney > Kelly
Sloane dog millionaire
Luke Davis-Uniacke… 197k coming off a 90-odd and a 118. Had 26 touches today…any takers?
wow that's under the radar
I mentioned him in one of the pre-season podcasts but didn't seem worth picking ahead of Walsh or Cousins. Has a -83 breakeven with Hawks, Adelaide, Essendon, Port and the Blues in his next five…
I think it's it's just his 3 name…name that puts me off, and that he's from North Melbourne, he would seem to be the only expensive rookie worth the price at the moment though.
I did look at him after last week Patch and he has backed it up, but I am going with Rozee instead due to his def/fwd swing.
I offered him up in JLT and mentioned that everybody was initially excited by him in his rookie year pre-jlt so why isn't he an option at a similar price with actual senior experience. All the regulars were quick to shutdown any talk about him stating that he'd never be SC relevant.
Great upgrade for Merrett if you have zach
How is he flying so low under the radar? Even though he's expensive those are great scores. If Ridley or Collins had put those numbers up people would be frothing!
Do we trade rookies wilkie for Parker an petruccle for drew . Or a rookie and a under performing mid ?
Reckon you need to get Parker in, Wilkie could be out for Hind soon, hasn't done enough. You also need Drew, he's a top notch rookie that you'll kick yourself for if you don't have him next week.
Both Parker and Drew are scoring very well and can be on field with confidence, they will make heaps of cash for you as well, so yes you need to get them in.
My team is in trouble. Two scores of around 2100 and am ranked 45k. Not good not good
Any ideas on what to do to improve my team?
Def: Lloyd Short Mills Smith Clark Duursma (Scrimshaw Hore)
Mid: Cripps Fyfe Bont Dusty O’Meara Walsh Constable Scott (Atkins Butters Gibbons)
Ruc: Grundy Gawn (Sweet)
Fwd: Danger Heeney Petracca Setterfield Drew Parker (Petruccelle Balta)
$134k left
My round 3 projected score is 2150 so I’d like to improve that. I was thinking of trading in Moore and maybe trading out Mills but I want to give him one more week to prove himself.
Any thoughts?
Out: Mills, Petracca
In: Moore, Whitfield / Laird
Can't see Mills or Petracca threatening to be a top 6 forward or defender. Laird and Whitfield are arguably must have defenders come season end. Moore been a very good pick for those who started him, will make money and looks to be scoring well. Good downgrade option for a failed mid price selection.
Maybe roll the dice Tommo and go Mills to Williams and Petracca to Moore to bank some moolah. Don't rate Mills at all, never averaged more than 79.
Your Team's pretty solid really with a few let downs..you'll need to strengthen your fwd line next week though.
Mills > Moore and Tracca > Kelly.
Hi Tommy.
I reckon you are not far from nailing a big score. If I had your team, the two that stand out as passengers, it would have to Mills and Petracca. Both need to go. Petracca to Darcy Moore and Mills to a jet like Jack Crisp. Crisp will really give your backline some steel. Then after that watch Dusty and Heeney. If they continue to under achieve start planning to move them on. Good luck mate!
POD's to keep an eye on – criteria under 10% ownership, DEF av 90+, MID av 110+, RUC av 110+, FWD av 90+
Some very interesting names popping up here!
DEF
Rich BRL av 112 $428,200 1.3% owned
McGovern WCE av 110.5 $483,100 5.9% owned
Saad ESS av 109 $407,600 2.4% owned
Stewart GEE av 107.5 $463,000 3% owned
Salem MEL av 107 $445,400 4.1% owned
Crisp COL av 103 $519,900 7.6% owned
Andrews BRL av 102.5 $480,100 2.7% owned
McMillan NTH av 101.5 $440,200 1.7% owned
Hurn WCE av 98.5 $523,400 9.3% owned
Harbrow GCS av 97 $444,400 0.7% owned
Suckling WBD av 94 $497,000 0.6% owned
Howe COL av 94 $497,200 2.4% owned
Milera ADL av 93.5 $433,100 2.6% owned
Aliir SYD av 92 $431,800 1.3% owned
McVeigh SYD av 90 $487,100 0.5% owned
MID
Sloane ADL av 130 $524,300 8.6% owned
Bontempelli WBD av 127.5 $564,600 5.7% owned
Cunnington NTH av 125 $522,900 0.4% owned
Hill FRE av 120.5 $426,700 0.3% owned
Treloar COL av 118.5 $594,200 9% owned
Kennedy SYD av 115 $525,600 0.8% owned
Pendlebury COL av 114.5 $562,000 3.4% owned
Swallow GCS av 113 $487,500 0.2% owned
RUC
Lycett PTA av 118 $441,200 5.9% owned
FWD
Boak PTA av 121 $478,000 3.1% owned
Marshall STK av 114 (1 game only) $341,100 0.2% owned
Daniel WBD av 112 $418,500 0.7% owned
Gunston HAW av 106.5 $521,400 1% owned
Gresham STK av 103.5 $429,600 1.3% owned
Dahlhaus GEE av 103.5 $418,300 7% owned
Hawkins GEE av 100.5 $552,900 2.2% owned
Sexton GCS av 98.5 $329,700 0.5% owned
Martin GCS av 98.5 $439,000 0.9% owned
Cameron BRL av 98.5 $387,400 2.2% owned
Hogan FRE av 96 (1 game only) $498,300 0.4% owned
Bruce STK av 96 $268,500 3% owned
Maclean WBD av 93.5 $514,000 3.2% owned
Wallis WBD av 92.5 $498,800 2% owned
Parfitt GEE av 90.5 $434,300 0.8% owned
Thanks mate for your efforts, always good to be presented with a bunch of relevant stats, you're making me wanna do something crazy this week!, I won't say what it is but it's mighty crazy I tells yas! 🙂
Climb the hill
Taken over neales role
Need to go up from rookie rather than down from a Martin type A tad early; on the radar Trigg .can keep his cous from GWS company I like the thought of two hills
Anyone want to lend me 150k so I can trade Greene up to kelly? Happy to pay interest back on it if it means I get too offload a weekly headache
Could always go the more bargain basement option of Worpedo Mav, or I'll loan it to ya at 198% interest lol.
I’m $1200 off affording worpel russty. How unlucky is that haha and haven’t really got a 2nd trade to do after Collins did enough to survive the trade to scrimshaw!
Great to see Gilbert McAdam doing some guest commentary work tonight on Fox Sports, during the Hawks/ Bulldogs game.
Liked his honest and forthright approach to it, I think there should be more of our indigenous legends commenting on the game they were so good at.
Hope Fox Sports keeps it going with more interesting guest commentators, maybe for them even to become regulars.
Great call out Rusty Gilbert has been a regular on the National Indigenous Radio Network for some time. The diversity in our game should be reflected in the commentary box and it’s not currently.
Can't agree there Russty he wasn't great. Kept repeating himself and didn't bring anything to the interviews. Not the type for televised game coverage or at least get him off the boundary. Maybe more suited for radio and panel shows.
He’s a funny bigger too! Nickname is “Fellas”..
Meant bugger not bigger!
Time to go Dusty and Toby Greene… who to bring in?
Fyfe and Moore OR
Rocky and Tim Kelly?
Like option 2 dare I say it. Both trades are keepers imo
Leaning that way mate thanks Rocky looking awesome
I have rocky but I'm a bit concerned that he only managed to score 20 points in a half with the spudderfield tag. Spudderfield IS NOT a good footballer so anybody with 2 legs and eyes might be able to shut down the rock
It also started raining very heavily in that second half and he found it hard to get near the ball
Rocky and Kelly get my vote. Good Luck!
Heeney to worpel
Setterfield to moore
Gain $50k
?
Setterfield to Moore would be a wasted trade imo. Moore will probably get injured next week.
Agreed…. HOLD.
Dusty – Neale and Mundy – Kelly is really bloody tempting….
2156 this week is not good enough. Too many under performing bloody premos.
Got all the right rooks except Constable, is he a must have?
Only way to get him would be Balta OUT, Drew forward, Constable IN.
I'd lose my Mid/Fwd swing set which I don't like.
My other mid rookies are Scott, Atkins, Gibbons, Drew, Butters.
Thoughts?
Constable averaging over 80 as a rookie and could have scored a lot more on weekend with 30 touches etc so get him in! Drew is FWD for most people. And get rid of Mundy
If Balta not named get Constable. This is why you have the swing set early in season, to swing trades
What about just doing Atkins – Constable?
Constable is a must have … 3rd highest projected revenue earner … Balta may get a gig this week to replace Riewoldt ..
Do you have Hore down back and Burgess up forward? If so, could do Hore out, Burgess back, Drew fwd, Constable in.
Nice idea Lazza, I have Burgess down back and Moore up forward so I could prob do something with the swings.
Mundy is sh!tt!ing me to tears so he might have to go too which opens up all sorts of possibilities.
Just have to wait for teams to be sure of what to do, I'll def get on Constable, just not sure how.
I'm doing Ridley if he doesn't get named to Constable via the swing from Duursma. Otherwise straight swap for Atkins works
Herald Sun this morning says Heeney is Injured did I miss something on Friday night?
Hurt the fetlock apparently
Goldstein, gonna be solo ruck they said, back to his best they said. Yikes. If Campbell named again might have to abandon. This season of SC already looking like a schemozzle.
Yeah I didn't see bloody Campbell getting a game Rick, I thought he was just cover as they had Daw go down and Preuss leave.
Not good. Not good at all. Goldie needs to be the lone wolf to score well.
I won't trade Goldy this week … cos Grundy (BE 193) will probably lose more $$ … as will Goldy (BE 150).. so hoping for a net zero trade when compared to their values this week.. also gives us another week to assess both.
Thoughts on these trades;
Dusty to Constable
Balta or Hore to Jake Lloyd
I’m the first one to say hold your trades, especially your premiums.
But, I have watched Mundy (when he was actually on the field) for two weeks and I’m sick of yelling at the TV.
Let’s just pretend he is injured and I have to trade him.
I went deep in forward line this year, Danger, Heeney, Mundy, Kelly, Moore & Setterfield. It cost me on other lines but I thought it was worth it.
I was so close to going with Lycett, but I wasn’t certain he had the #1 ruck job. I probably would have gone Lovett instead of Kelly.
Plus Mundy had a good bye.
I’m afraid it is goodbye Mundy
It's Monday Trade OUT Mundy…
Same problem mate. Got Mundy thinking he would be a consistent POD but he has been putrid
He'll go huge once Fyfe gets injured … Or you could always back Walters in lol
at half time he had 62% TOG
third quarter he started on bench. Came on for about 10 minutes and scored 20 points and went off again.
last quarter was on most of time and touched the ball once.
Ridley to Scrimshaw or Rozee?
Balta to McCarthy or Bruce?
Balta and Ridley might play this week – someone has to replace Riewoldt and Essendon need to make changes ..
Balta probably gets named this week with Jack and Rance and Grimes out. His role might be different so I'd give him another go. Even Ridley was unlucky to get dropped, was an emergency last week, I'm holding him for now as long as I have cover.
Contemplating Zerrett to Bont even after a 108.
Have I lost it?
Ridiculous
Whilst I don't think Merrett will be top 10 .. (they only played the Saints) … Bont only scored 97 and wasn't tagged.
What Rick said..
Ok I have completed my Monday morning Rage Trade.
Ridley to Scrimshaw
Heeney to Lloyd (Via DPP)
I didn't have Lloyd last year and he is doing it to me again this year. Is this a crazy trade?
I say go for it. I looked at the heeney to Lloyd but couldn’t find the cash.
Lloyd definitely top 6 defender IMO. He’s going to cost whenever you get him, and cost you points until you do.
Heeney not locked into top 6 yet, and will lose cash before recovering. If you have no other rookie corrections that need making and you can leave your team for the next 3-4 weeks barring LTI I would get it done.
Thanks Doc,
Definitely my thoughts as well behind this. Can't see Lloyd dropping off at all this season. Leaves me pretty light on in the forward line with Moore at D3 however, the way the Collingwood were chipping it around their defence there seems to be a lot if easy points. Leaves me with a
Backline of Lloyd, Hurn, Crisp, Smith plus rookies and a Forward line of Danger Dunkley Moore.
Ridley might get named. Not like the Bombers went any better without him.
Yeah I think he will but it worried me that he got cut from a side doing so poorly even though he definitely was not their worst performer.
I also think the combination of Scrimshaw and Lloyd will out score Heeney and Ridley as well as Scrimshaw making more money.
I really am tempted to Rage Trade Heeney and Simpson to Kelly and Lloyd but I’m 700 god damn bucks short. Have no other pressing needs in terms of rookies I need to get rid of or get in so I was like screw it why not. So is it worth trying to somehow get Lloyd in now, or even Kelly? Or should I hold my trades and calm down hahahahaha
Both of those trades are what we aren't supposed to do, but both would improve your team by some margin and Simmo and Heeney are struggling at the moment. I'm thinking of trading Heeney out myself, but I'm giving Simmo another week.
I’m beyond torn, and I’ve already hit the reverse trade button twice. This is going to be a longggg week
look at Kelly's Projected score and value increase. He is not going to become out of reach any time soon. He is a must have but not enough to screw your team trying to get in immediately. Take your time making a little money.
People trading out a player after ONE bad game is bad enough, but people wanting to trade out a player after they have tonned up is astonishing!
Mundy to Boak ? Am i jumping the gun?
The question I ask myself this year on these type of trades will they Top 8 and will there be any players coming back that could change their scoring ? Just my take mate,gut feelings is sometimes the best analogy
Rage trade.
Reverse.
Rage trade.
Reverse.
Rage trade.
Reverse.
Gonna be a long week…
I've done 2 this morning … but Yeo has been in everyone ..
Yeo will come good Lazza
Did my trade Sunday night and the longer I wait, the better it looks.
Opinion please for Heeney and Mills.
Kelky and Stewart/Newman/Rozee or
Worpel and Whitfield
Heeney should come good unless we hear more about his injury, will probably start attending more stoppages and center bounces when he's in better shape, disappointing start but he will come good. On the other hand, dump Mills. Plenty of options there, trade to Zac Williams, upgrade to someone in the upper 400ks if you've got some spare cash, could also downgrade to a good defense rookie and upgrade a bad mid rookie to someone like Rocky or Libba.
I'm looking at Yeo to anyone .. well Fyfe.
If Greene plays this week then my 2nd trade will be Martin to either J Lloyd (via DPP) or T Kelly.
If Greene doesn't play, then Greene to Moore.
Greene to Moore, or Martin to T Kelly, gives me $$ to bring Grundy in the following week if Goldy spuds it up again..
Anyway, that's Monday versions 1 and 2 of crazy corrections week…
Really really tempted to trade Martin to either Rocky or sheed to bank some cash, if u had to who would u pick out of the two?
Rocky.
I'll be going Dusty to Rocky this week then if Sheed can still produce I'll be upgrading a rookie to him next week. Tempted to jump on both this week but what ever increase we see in Sheeds price will be matched by rookies price rise. Get one more look at Sheed that way.
If Ridley isn't named again this week I might use my first trade; Ridley to Darcy Moore.
A lot of people are trading out Heeney but I'm going to hold at this point. I could be wrong but I think it's a bit early to trade him out.
Not usually one to sideways trade premos, but I'm pulling the trigger on Henney to Kelly.. God it feels good!
Yeah not confident holding Heeney. If he plays through this injury he will continue to play fwd heavily and score 55-80 pts unless he kicks a bag.
I’m not convinced Heeney to Kelly is worth the trade. Agree Kelly is safer bet. However, I’d been eyeing off a ruck/fwd F6 all pre season as I think I’ll need cover for Grawndy at some stage. Even for byes as they are both Rd 13.
So looking at ruck/fwd options, I do think Lycett warrants consideration. He played a great game against Gawn and then smashed it on the weekend. If he goes on a run we will have missed him after this week, although there’s a reasonable chance he might still be there for a Heeney straight swap in one more week. Under consideration.
Same same
Think I have the right rage trades done
Heeney > Moore
Heeney injury cloud, set to lose a bucket load of cash over the next 2-3 weeks.
Martin > Lloyd via dpp
Martin not a top 10 mid this year without the tackles and right head space.
Best part is I free up 240k
Heeney has been playing through an injury. He well definitely lose cash but still reckon he is top 6 fwd, in which case cash really doesn't matter unless he suffers a serious injury. He should come good.
I can see the appeal in the trades, but to me, seems like you're going a tad backwards. Moore could easily get injured next week (wouldn't put it past him) then you would have to either sideways him or downgrade him, and then you have essentially traded 2 premos for an ultra premo and a basement rookie.
Don't see how I'm going backwards at all….
Moore can match Heeney on pts at worst while Heeney plays heavily fwd because of this injury.
Lloyd clearly will score 20+ on Dusty on any given week.
I take the 240k and the extra pts is what I am doing.
Moore isn't a keeper and needs to be traded out at some stage, whereas you picked heeney and dusty to get picked to be in your side all year. I agree Lloyd could very easily outscore dusty and there is merit to trading dusty – Lloyd
Horse said to expect Heeney to play more mid in the coming weeks. So we shouldnt expect him to keep pumping out sub 80s.
I think Heeney and Moore should score similar ish, but i think Heeney can defiitely be more trusted than Moore can. I think if Heeney gets the mid time Horse has said he will, i thibnk Heeney should be more consistent
Where did you see that Tommy? because the other day Horse said he wont be playing forward because of his ankle, that could be weeks away? hes going to bleed coin and if he comes good youll get him at a bargain price,
Have you got all of the right rookies?
Rookie correctives first then luxury trades.
Spot on ive gone mills-rozah and had to off load petrasmelly to parker for the obvious, first trades for the year but i do have every other gun rookie bar walsh,
Be thankful you have Heeney and not Mundy!
Dusty is definitely cause for concern. Doesn't look right at this stage. I still reckon he will come good but will it be good enough for top 10 mid? I'm not so sure. I fall short of being able to go Dusty – Fyfe and feel like trading him to anyone around his price is as sideways as it gets.
What would peoples thoughts be on going Dusty – Rocky to free up cash? Rocky's injury history suggests it could burn me but he is looking the goods. And i'm looking like going into this week with still the 30 trades up my sleeve so i can afford a sideways trade.
Other options include dusty – Kelly/Andrews/Whitfield, but that would leave me with 3 with the same bye on 1 line, which i dont particularly like the look of, especially as that particular bye is easily my most problematic.
at the moment im going dusty to rocky which banks me 174k
Tons of people will be moving on Dusty this week Tommy and it's easy to understand why.
As long as you have all of the right rookies then go for it.
I'm gonna back him in for a bit longer, he tonned up in Rd1 without breaking a sweat and was tagged by Greenwood last week.
Hey Ranger, Yeah i got all the right rookies. Hore – Wilkie the only one worth considering. I was lucky enough to have started all the good ones. I think he will improve but this is the week to jump on Rocky and if i don't pull the trigger this week, i'm stuck with him for a few weeks. Definitely food for thought
Do we hold Hore or should I corrective to Scrimshaw. He is the only decent rookie I don't have
I'm holding Hore and loopholing the hell.out of him until something irresistible comes along….. Scrimshaw is not a must have, consider it if he will be your d6 instead of a Spud, but not a must have.
Sorry – think Scrmshaw is a must have – lot of injuries at the Hawks and Birchall out indefinitely,
Hore to come back in for May?
I think Hore will come in for May this week. Whether he holds his spot for more than 1 week is another question
Have been time poor this year so my first post of the season! Hi to all the regulars out there!
Anyway thought I’d go left field this year with a moderate mid Price mad set up. I’m planning on taking a crouching approach- trade arse off. Started English at r2 after having Grundy locked away all Pre season (Gawn r1). Hasn’t been a complete fail as it allowed for smith d4 and Libba at m6 and I’m points positive from the move and soon to be cash positive with Libba and smith performing. I am going to have to do something with English though as I can’t look at 60’s for a month @ 300k (not going to make the bit of cash I’d hoped).
So I’m going to bank some cash this week to get English up to grundy in the next month, dusty to rocky (same output- 150k saved) and dunkley or Heen down to someone, probably worp but maybe even right down to bruce to make a quick buck over the next couple… anyway I’m going loose this year… I know I’ll regret it but hey, who knows….
Oh and don’t give me the no sideways etc blah blah, believe me, I know the drill….
Was wondering where you were Swans…good to see you back on the site.
The Worpedo is def on the radar, dunno about Rocky, worried what will happen to his role once Wines comes back, you'd think that either him or Boak has to spend more time fwd.
Your right of course ranger, but I can’t help but think that they will leave rocky doing his thing if he’s doing it well enough, plus there is wingards midfield minutes to soak up…
Hi Swans Yeah great to hear from you .Your starting of Libba and Smith has and will continue to be positive just a pity it involved English..Both the Dusty and Heeney trades will get you to Grundy but you will be trades poor mate Wont matter if you have the right rookies in place Onwards and upwards cheers and good luck
Thanks Neil, not worried about being trade poor this year, just going to go for it for a month or so, I’m thinking I might hold heen, but dusty I think is in the gun….thanks for the input
Hi swans. I did have a team at some stage over the pre season that had English at R2, i do like my risky R2's. Had Lycett last year and the 60's each week are hard to take.
good luck mate
Hi Derek, yeah at r1 for the dogs I thought he might just bang out a few months of 80’s before tiring but doesn’t look likely now! Anyway I’ll make some cash to make the Grundy trade possible in a week or so and monitor the Mumford/Clarke/rookie ruck situation over the next couple weeks.
I started with R1 Goldy, R2 English planning to wait for G&G's prices to drop, now I'm thinking Goldy to McEvoy to help out now, then upgrade English next month to Gawn or Grundy once my rookies have generated some $$)
I want to get Rozee into my team, who would you trade out for him out of Simmo, Heeney, or a rookie that will only have good cash generation for two to three weeks but has good JS.
We seem to be on a parralell course this season John. I am getting him in this week also. Toss up with Moore but its more i dont trust his health
Hi Neil, yes I'm not sure on Moore either, since he won't make a lot of cash or be a keeper, but he does have good JS and is scoring well.
Hi John. Dont like the idea of booting a premo for a rookie. Feels like your taking a backwards step to get to full premo as quick as possible. Do you have any rookies not playing?
Hi Holty, all my rookies are playing apart from Hore and he could be back this week. Rozee is the only rookie I don't have that could make some serious cash and I like the fact he is a dpp. I'm just a bit torn between Simmo and Heeney for who to trade out as I would prefer Rozee in my fwd line, but I feel Heeney has more upside for improvement, since Newman seems to be taking some of Simpson's points and I don't want to trade a rookie for another rookie before they have got to their breakeven.
I know it's sidewards as it gets.
Martin & Heeny – Fyfe & Kelly?
I did it just to lock it in and gee it looked nice. I started with Grundy & Gawn and I feel my forwards has 3 set for locks, 6 mids locked. So feels like I can afford the corrective. I'm a tiger fan and Dusty tonned up first week but just think with Jack & Rance out Tigers not confident Dusty smashes out what Fyfe can for a while.
Taking a poll. Mundy straight swap for Kelly? Lycett? Or trade down to Moore bank the coin then reassess?
Lycett if you need a fwd/ruc backup to swing with R3 else Kelly.
Agreed
I already have Kelly, so i'm going Lycett. Kelly looks the better selection if you don't have him.
kelly.
Everyone wants Kelly. No one was interested in Lycett until the weekend. 1 score and now everyone wants him. Look what happened with Hoff.
I’d play it safe Shake and go Kelly. You know what ur getting. I personally have no idea what ur getting with Lycett.
It’s probably just the ruck fwd swing. And the bye.
I reckon getting as many midfielders into your fwd line should be priority Shake…just need to work around the Grawndy outs in round 13.
My one trade for this week is Mundy to Kelly. Mundy looked slow and past it. Accept my mistake and blow a trade.
35 is unacceptable Whitey….old man gotta go.
I am in the same position Whitey. Trades are vital as we all know from last year. I was thinking of Rocky or Sheed but it's going to cost 2 more trades to get either to Fyfe etc. Toss up for me Kelly and 130k or Fyfe @ 618 k and bogger all. Fyfe will drop but for me it's Fyfe for Life.Some of our coaches have similar structures with 10 prems each and 4 or 5 midpricers. They are hoping for 2 or 3 midpricers to crack the top 6. Libba Smith Williams DEgoey Greene Rocky B Crouch and BILLINGS are all good . I have two also but who on that list will be a keeper . For mine only Rocky I just worry about trades but Mundy is a must to trade
He’s definitely gone Neil just weighing up my options. Good game in our draft league.
Yes Shake Got me though. still learning about the format Good fun I am going Mundy to Fyfe
Looking to trade Brouch/Billings>Worpel(I'm thinking keeping Billings of the 2 is smarter) and Scott/Atkins to LDU/Butters(leaning LDU). Thoughts?
No, wast of two trades.
what
Both B.Crouch and Billings are midpricers and are scoring well for the price you paid for them, no need to trade either of them.
I tried a Jayden short experiment should I hold or try to trade him to someone else, I already have Williams and b smith
Tim kelly had an average of 117.5 after round 2 last season. Not saying he wont finish in the top 6 forwards, but sideways trading Heeney/Dunkley to the man is foolish. Are we really that confident in Kelly that he will produce tons every week? Because if we arent then its really not worth the sideways trade. Stick to your premos.
Normally agree Goat but while the bloke is injured and won’t be playing much in the midfield, very hard to keep the Bloke. I’m accepting starting him has been a mistake and moving him on for the time being is the best for my team. Although it helps I haven’t used a trade yet.
Lot of panic trades being discussed getting rid of Dusty and Heeney.It's a long way to go you gotta stick don't you ?
Probably, but it's more fun trading lol
I'm 2 weeks into my 3rd season of SC and I have finally gotten a handle on my rage trade urges, I'm trying really hard not to turn Heeney into Worpel this week….
Do it, Worpels going to average more, at least to the bye rds, and Heeney is going to bleed cash til then if that ankle doesnt get better, then when and if it does you can pick him up at a bargain,,
Do Mills and Mundy have to go?
Thinking Mills to Lloyd and Mundy to Moore.
What do ya reckon fellas?
Hi Dan, yeah I reckon they've both gotta go, Mills is doing what he does every other year, and Mundy is gonna bleed cash for his price, better off jumping off the sinking ship now.
Mundy to Moore or maybe Rozee.
I wish I'd started Lloyd over Laird now, Laird seems to be affected by Smith and Lloyd is killing the pig.
Cheers Russty.
Yeah Lloyd may become near unattainable if I don't jump on now.
Who do you think has more upside of Moore and Rozee?
Rozee may earn more cash but Moore looks like he has a touch better scoring capacity.
I started with Moore (big risk) but he's working out ok so far, is enjoying a Sicily type second go around as a defender, sucked as a forward.
I'd like to get Rozee in but think I might miss the boat on him and if I do, no big deal I think (I've already got Walsh and Collins).
I think Moore could make you more points, but Rozee could be less risky, if that helps.
Are we just chasing points by trading in rockliff? Does anyone actually think he will finish a top 8 midfielder? In I think it’s all a trap in my own opinion. Would love to know everyone elses thoughts?
Top eight midfielder? Probably not. Will be good enough a midfielder to warrant not trading out by the end of the season? Probably in my books. Body is in good shape, in good form, playing an SC friendly role, biggest concern is if his role will change with the return of some injured players. Wouldn't trade him in at this point unless you didn't have enough money for a premo.
Setterfield tagged Rocky after half time … only scored 26 points on the kid. Also explains Setterfield's lower score this week.
What do you think the other coaches are gonna do now??
Definitely looks like chasing points. I think that Wines will take over as the inside midfielder when he comes back which will have a big dent in his score.
People who still have GREENE what are you doing this week? Do we hold? I kind of just want to cut him out and be done with it but unsure who to go to. Sideways to Sheed/Rocky/Moore or down to Rozee/Davis-Uniacke or holding what is everyone doing?
If he plays I am holding ,because it is only his 2nd game we can look at it next week ,I / we picked him because he offered value and if he plays to his max he is a top 8 FWD
Dusty to rockliff
and tranto to lachie neal
Thoughts?
Yes for Dusty to Rockliff, no for Taranto to Neale, Taranto averaging 95, no reason to get rid of him yet. Also consider Dusty to Neale if possible.
Agreed, I'm hanging onto Taranto and not falling into the potential Rocky trap, but Neale has been solid (he's in my team), but yeah, I agree Dusty looks cooked, 0 tackles after 2 rounds and not lighting it up in the MID or in front of goal.
Agree with this, Derek made a good point the other day though that Port still have Wines to come back into the midfield
Are you writing Dusty off for the season?
Classic points chasing
Thoughts on Darling? Not playing bad at all but 4 goals only giving him 90 points isn’t a promising sign, plus I don’t like how the Eagles are playing 4 talls with Vardy Allen and JJK also in there. Should I trade this week to Worpel/LDU, or hold for a few more weeks to assess and then maybe snap up an underpriced Westhoff/DSmith/McDonald/Menegola?
That's the conundrum with key forwards. They can kick a bag but still end up with a middling score. I'd hold tho, it's not like Worpedo is essential. Darling could pump out 150 at any time.
Where is that idiot who was abusing me on here for saying i think darling will only average 80 something now?
Not sure, but he's not a top 6 forward. If you were silly enough to buy, hold.
Let me tell you about a story, a little story about Jack and Diane. They both owned Fyfe, he was going bad, a run of 70s and 80s. He's done they community said, playing injured they thought. Well Jack got angry and rage traded him to whoever was that weeks flavour of the..week. Diane held strong. He's a premo she said, class is permanent. The next week Fyfe went huge. Then again and again for the rest of the year. Poor Jack went insane with frustration and was last seen begging for change in the park. Diane went on to be McDonald's employee of the month five times straight. Moral of the story, sideways trade a premo at your peril.
Are you a John Mellencamp fan Rick.
Don't mind him, song just happened to be playing as I perused the comments.
I've got all his albums from the eighties and nineties and saw him in concert twice, in 88 & 92, so I'm a fan of that time period.
Perhaps you should also tell the story of Billings and Hibberd. Swings and roundabouts. Sometimes the trade works, sometimes it doesn't.
Thoughts on Tim Kelly? Not sure if I should pick him up and trade out Greene
Kelly is a must have but he's not going to explode in price. Greene, if fit, could easily go 90ave. But how far off is he from being close to fit. If not named, trade away. But could always take another look at both.
Macrae with a 130 point average from 7 games against Gold Coast. Danger into him for me this week
Danger into Fyfe for me.
Neale in Macrae for me I think the crows will make it tough for Paddy
Danger scored 158 there last year.
Gotta VC Danger this week I reckon, if he goes big, it's pressure off.
Danger loves playing at Adelaide Oval, i think he'll deliver quite well on the VC this round
You reach for a trade depending on who plays the Suns? Not this year I think
What? He's already in my team, going VC Danger into C Macrae. Not sure what you're talking about "reaching for trades"
MacRae scored 189 last time he played the Gold Coast
As a bombers fan it hurts me to say that I'm considering Oliver as my VC. Bombers are stinking it up big time.
I'm backing Heeney & Mills who play Carlton and Dusty to bounce back , however the only Rookie I don't have is Constable , if Balta doesn't get named I'll bring him in via DPP or Bailey Scott might get dropped this week, but I will hold him if does , otherwise no trades this week as I have no injuries
I'm in the same boat (Heeney & Martin) and can't decide if I go Kelly & Fyfe or hold firm.
I'm leaning towards cutting. I nailed my rookies so I can afford the correct and worst case there is bargain buyers in Heeney & Martin if the pulltheir shit together.
I would hold Heeney but trade Dusty. Heeney has been battling an ankle injury so might have one or two more games up forward before returning to midfield. Dusty on the other hand doesn’t look interested and hasn’t laid a single tackle yet. Crouch and Bont are good around that price range.
As for Mills, I would 100% trade. Won’t average enough to be a top 10 defender even if he plays full time midfield but has only been drifting off half back so far. Trade him to one of Stewart, Andrews, ZWilliams or Brodie Smith.
John curious your opinion. Say Fyfe to Dusty. Hold Heeney and miss Kelly for now?
I've nailed all rookies so figured corrective trade till I see Heeney fit/productive and obviously cheaper. Also lock in Kelly now.
You will need to have both Heeney and Kelly in your forward line by season's end so no point trading Heeney out then bringing him back in later. Wasted two trades in my opinion. On the other hand, Fyfe is looking in Brownlow medal form and will have another big week against Saints this week so pull the trigger.
Anyone considering Caleb Daniel as a smokey pod?..he seems to be excelling in his new half back role even though he's a fwd.
1% ownership…112 average.
I was looking at him in preseason Russty but his JLT2 score scared me off… great user of the ball but I've got a feeling his scores will depreciate when the dogs start losing
I'm surprised such a little bugger is doing so well in the backline Yeahnah…it's like he was meant to be there, I'll probably end up doing something more sensible though, or nothing at all.
I'm considering bring him in or T Kelly … But If I go Martin to Caleb this week, it means I can go Greene to T Kelly the following week.(assuming Kelly increase is less than $20k)
Looked good against the Hawks Russty Beaten twice in mismatches right in front but even Paul Callery looks down to him .Great player and half back suits .On watch big time
Hi Neil yeah me too mate, on watch…his new role seems to agree with his scoring, probs need to wait and see if it's every week or just the first few weeks.
Yeah I have been watching him closely and unfortunately I’m not convinced on consistency for me I’ll have to wait an extra couple of weeks before I would consider him
Is Heeney to Kelly and Greene to Worpel worth doing this week if Heeney and Greene both play?
Sure
Not sure if you're being serious or you want me to fail?…haha
Dont fall for that crop Russty Trades are valuable mate and Heeney is top 6 no worries .Many including me are waiting for him to drop Horse must play him mids
Cheers Neil, side does look better with Heeney and Greene out though, gotta play the long game though…I'd love to be in a position to trade away after 4 or 5 rounds. 🙂
Would just do Greene to Worpel. I doubt Heeney would average 80-85 for the rest of the season, also has Carlton this week, a good chance to catch so form
Can't do it Danners without doing 2 trades. Kinda tempted to do nothing this week actually, scored 228 more points than last week doing nothing this week. If Greene's out might go him to Rozee to make some moolah
Hold your trades Russty if Greene returns this week otherwise if he isn’t playing you may have to pull the trigger on that trade
Thanks Corey, I kinda like the idea of still having 30 trades after 3 rounds.
Thinking of trading Dusty, its not his scoring that concerns me, but more the fact that he is not tackling, and spending too much time not on the ball. He can not be fit.
I'm thinking of trading to one of-
Sloan, Rocky, Sheed (but worried about impact of Gaff returning), or Bont.
Appreciate the communities thoughts.
I like the Bont, seems to be playing solely midfield so far. Sloan is a gun too.
Can't wait to pick up a cheap heeney. He's top 6
Thoughts on LDU ? If the Roos continue to stink he will play rather than mature in the “magoos” like Dumont did for 2 seasons, Nice score on the weekend in a losing side!!
I rate him, I believe he averaged around 130 odd in the TAC Cup couple years back. Has a year under the belt, should make good coin
After 2 rounds I'm thinking of changing Goldy (102, 66) to BigBoy (102, 104), I would appreciate your thoughts community.
(I went cheap on my rucks to start to see how G&G went early on, so my R1 is Goldy & R2 is English, I don't have the $$ to upgrade to Grundy or Gawn right now…unless I downgrade a MID to Rocky…)
Too sideways, if you're hanging out for Gawn or Grundy to fall in price may as well just keep waiting
Ceglar's in there now too, will pinch hit at times.
Also Dermy, I think one bad game is too soon to punt Goldy, hopefully he bounces back this week for us.
Either find the cash to go up to Gawn or Grundy
Or
Go Lycett and bank some cash and trade in a player with a very low break even, Would suggest Phillips as a Lycett alternative, but not sure where Kreuzer is at in his recovery.
Makes no sense trading Goldy to Big Boy or any ruck who isn’t top 2 or a ruck with a very low break even
Thanks fellas for talking me back off the ledge, I really didn't want to make any impulse trades this week, they're so valuable later on. I'll keep Goldy (and Heeney, who I was going to downgrade to Worpel which would give me the cash to turn Goldy into Grundy), but I will hold on both as Heeney should improve as should Goldy, I'll save my trades for when I really need them. Thanks again.
Like many here, struggling with Heeney and Mills. I'm going to hold Heeney and ride out a couple of potentially bad weeks for the long haul. Surely he's a top 6 forward and Horse has said he wants to give him mid time.
I think Mills is a different story and sadly we got suckered in by playing mid pre-season. Not sure he's getting in there in a hurry and even on the Swans website Mills is talking up playing back (maybe meaning he's stuck there). Replacement is tough as has to be a top 6 candidate but to me, they're not so obvious down back this year except for Lloyd, Laird and Whitfield. I'm really unsure after that. Top 6 backs anyone?
Also can't have every rookie. I don't have Parker but do you sacrifice a Petruccelle or Burgess for him? Think that's a waste. All rookies notoriously unreliable and Parker could score 30 this week
Hurn and Simpson most likely
What are people’s thoughts on going Heeney and Greene out. Moore and Lloyd in
Anyone who is trading out Heeney is VERY silly.
They said that about Hibberd and Billings last year.
Get rid of Dusty or Dunkley first? Thinking Dunkley because The Dogs have so many decent MIDS i.e. Macrae, Libba, Bont, Wallis, McLean, and Daniel who all share around the possies.
98 and 78 for Dunkley is fine.
Get rid of Dusty.
Dusty, form is concerning, has not laid a tackle yet this season
Very true. Looks a shadow of his former self.
A shadow.
Yep a shadow cant tackle.
Lol
Starting to think I need to bring Moore into my team.
He is definately best 22 and is getting better every game. Be a nice F4 with DPP. Appears to be moving freely and over injury concerns.
Obviously have to grab him now if I want to bring him in.
Then we hit a snag. How?
1. Could trade Smith down to Moore
Dont like this option as Smith is avg 90 in backline.
2. DPP setterfield trade Walsh.
Dont like this as Walsh is travelling well and will make as much as Moore.
3. Trade Heeney to Boak/daniel/Dahl/Worpedo.
Dont like trading premos but this trade down allows me to go Balta to Moore for an injured heeney.
Seems like the best option.
$20k short balta – moore to trade in Kelly.
$2k short to go setterfield – Moore to trafe in kelly.
Liking Daniel his D/E is awesome or boak who is in gr8 form. Dahl new lease of life.
Some good options.
get rozee Trigg cheaper
Maybe don't trade Heeney if he's playing, if he's playing he'll bounce back. Smith is almost matching Laird and Walsh has plenty of money to make and points to score yet.
Balta could save his ass this week if he gets named.
Don't think Kelly will rise in price much unless he starts dropping 120's every week.
It'd be good to have Worp though, looks a good prospect.
Is a Henry trade worth it in light of the injury
Edit: Heeney
'Rolled his ankle' is quite vague but it should only really be a low grade ligament strain.
He's got an 8 da break so i'm backing him in against the blues.
Could do good things trading him out, get Kelly, Worpel etc, but if he's ok and starts scoring well again, we've wasted one.
Yeh I’m wondering. I’ve already spent two on pierce, can I afford another? And if I do the trade I can get Moore for Setterfield. Is that worth 2 more trades? I’m coming 40,000 so far, shocking year, I need to take a risk or 2, but is this too risky
Caleb Daniel’s last 6 AFL games with a new role in defence has seen him score 100, 120, 75, 112, 104 and 120 for an average of 105.1. Sample size and role in the future is a worry but he could be a big p o d
He caught my attention too Will, you'd have to pick him as a definite top six forward this year though, even though he's a defender now. (top 6 scorer in your fwd line)
Who should I replace Dusty with? I've only got $566K to play with and I've narrowed it down to the following options:
Brayshaw, Sloane, Crouch, and Kelly (would swing Danger into MID).
Not considering Rocky because Wines still has to come back and not sure if that will affect his output. Also, we know how injury prone he is.
Worpel also an option with Danger swinging into MID.
I've got Brayshaw and M.Crouch so I'll say either of those 2.
Cheers Russty
Matt Crouch.
Cheers mate
Is Parker essential? Sure, I know how important cash generation is just like the next bloke but what if he starts laying some cables? That will put a massive dent in his appreciation.
He averaging like a jet , but don't forget, he has played Gold Coast & Essendon. His JLT numbers were terrible.
I recall a player for Hawthorn. Beau Muston was the name I think. 2 100's in the first 2 games and everyone traded him in. After that he was a spud and only made 100k
Patch please help, I am a sad little freo supporter who brought Walters in at F3 thinking he would get more midfield time. I know I shouldn but as a single trade should I be looking to trade him for Tim Kelly.
I like it
Cheers Lekdog
Is it worth burning a trade and 50k to get Rozee or Davis-Uniacke in for Hately? Anyone know what his prospects are? Don't wanna burn the trade and the money but hate to miss money making opportunities early in the game.
Mate i had him from day one, but traded him to Lockhart , saved coin and got a scorer, albeit a shit one, not sure what either of them will do?
Thoughts on trading brad crouch out and bringing rocky in?
Also contemplating trading out jordan de goey. I know he kicked 5 but only scored 82. Playing out of the square which doesn’t help his supercoach scoring
Hold Crouch, Ollie Wines will be back soon and taking some of Rockies thunder. Also you waste 1 trade.
Is the plan for League win different to Max points per round ??
I am in a cash league – winner take all !! It's been about 10 years – never won it – so it owes me !!
I have made no trades yet.
I have $243.7K in reserve – and in the past, I always run out of trades at the business end of the session.
I have all the main cash cow rookies except Parker.
BCK Hurn, Z Williams, B Smith, Collins, Duursma, Clark Ridley Burgess
Mid Macrae, Cripps, Coniglio, M Crouch, B Crouch, Walsh, Constable, Butters Gibbons, Atkins, Scott
RK Grundy, Gawn Bines
Fwd Danger, Heeney, Kelly, Moore, Setterfield, Drew Balta, Petruccelle
I can do the following trades:
Gibbons to Parker (bringing Setterfield to Mid)
1 B Crouch to Fyfe 28.7K
2 B Crouch to Neale 39.5K
3 Ridley to Worpel 66.2K (Moore goes to the backline) or,
4 Ridley to Parker (Moore goes to the backline) Gibbons to Rockcliff (Setterfield remains Fwd) 56K
5 Ridley to Parker (Moore goes to the backline) Gibbons to Libba (Setterfield remains Fwd) 161.5K
So, the questions are:
a) Will Worpel be a top 6 to 8 Fwd and will upgrading B Couch to a Fyfe / Neale in the later rounds be a better long term League win ??
b) Or, pull the trigger on B Couch now to a Premo Mid.
c) Or just do the 1 trade to trade Gibbons to Parker (bringing Setterfield to Mid)
d) Or are either of Rockcliff or Libba a reasonable'ish choice ??
Don't currently have either Rockcliff or Libba – I decided that they were too much of a risk (or are they ??).
Have gone conservative to have players playing – not with question marks over their fitness or injury prone.
Or is it time for a Mid priced Mid Field risk ??
Looking to start trading around rounds 7/8.
Any suggestions appreciated – Thanks