SuperCoach Panic Room: Round 2

It has taken exactly one weekend of football for the AFL Gods and the SuperCoach Gods to team up and remind us all that they are vengeful bastards who care not for months of carefully planned research and analysis. On top of 90% of our “sure thing” premo’s shitting the bed, they rub salt into the wound by having a bunch of questionable midpricers we’ve been trained to ignore go absolutely bananas.

There’s a huge temptation to trade this week, I get it, but as Lek and Damo told us approximately 784 times in podcast – please don’t. 30 trades seems a lot but you’ll be kicking yourself later in the year when you really do need those trades.

Let’s just forget it, community. It’s only round 1, round 2 is a reset.

The #CoxCurse has also reared its ugly head and I’m convinced it’s a thing because Patch keeps saying it’s a thing. You know, like Beetlejuice or Slenderman or Carlton having a successful 5-year plan. So I’m going to do a thing and harness the power of this beautiful community. Before you go to bed tonight and flick through your collection of Nat Fyfe photos (just me?) I want you to look square in the bathroom mirror and say the following three times:

“Shut up, Patch.” 

We’ll know next week if it has worked!

There has been a bunch of beautiful ~ content ~ on the site this week. We’ve got podcasts and rookie roundups and cheat sheets and captain picks. I love the boys, they are all good lads but that pales it all pales in comparison to the God, the messiah if you will, rejoining the Twitterverse and dropping some hot statistical analysis. We love you, Peter J Higginbotham! The mic is always on for you if you want to swing by the Bungalow.

Magnifique!

Best wishes and hopes for a speedy recovery ahead for Alex Rance, Tom Doedee, Tim Mohr, and Ed Vickers-Willis after doing their ACL’s on the weekend.

The News

Ugh. More Thursday night football. While it’s starting to grow on me (mainly because I don’t have to drag my ass out of bed Friday morning) it makes writing the Panic Room a pain in proverbial butt. I’ll do the same as last week and drop team news for tonight, as well as any confirmed selection news for the weekend. I’ll update this section fully on Friday morning.

For tonight… Levi Greenwood is in for Callum Brown in the Pies only change. Levi will be sticking to Dusty like glue tonight so if you can loophole Dusty seriously consider doing so. The Tigers have swung three changes, losing Rance (knee) and Houli (hamstring) to injury and omitting Noah Balta. Markov, Brandon Ellis, and Jason Castagna are the ins.  

Elsewhere, both the Swans and the Crows have made two changed that have little SuperCoach ramifications. Among the ins is Colin O’Riordan, a 250k defender. Essendon have resisted swinging the axe, bringing in Darcy Parish for Ridley. Ruck musical chairs has begun already at the Saints, Rowan Marshall taking over from Pierce. Darragh Joyce is one and done. Port Adelaide have named an unchanged lineup for their game against the Blues, who have lost David Cuningham to injury. West Coast will welcome back JJK and are handing a club debut to former Pie Josh Smith. A 244k FWD, there were massive wraps on this guy over the preseason. Still no Josh Kelly at GWS, Toby Greene has the dreaded general soreness and Harry Perryman will miss with a punctured lung. Melbourne are giving a debut to 102k DEF/MID Jay Lockhart. Steven May and Kade Kolo(something, something)nij will make their club debuts.

On Sunday, there’s potential debuts for Tarryn Thomas (MID / 175.8k), Connor Ballenden (FWD / 123.9k), and Noah Answerth (DEF/MID / 117.3k). Archie Smith has been named on an extended bench. At the Hawks, Tom Scully has been resurrected after being legally declared dead in last years trade period. Dylan Moore (FWD / 123k) is a chance to debut. The Dogs have added four names without any outs as yet. Freo get another training run to end the round. They’ve lost Ballantyne to injury. Among 5 ins is Damo’s favourite player in the world. Brandon Matera. Jesse Hogan will make his club debut. Ben King (FWD / 184.8k) is a chance to debut at the Suns. Sam Collins is right to go after suffering concussion last week. Ben Ainsworth (knee) is the only confirmed out so far.

Smooth Kevy’s Lock of the Week

Remember how I said I put the mozz on players that I highlight in this section? Well, yeah. Danger put up 97SC on Friday night. While not awful considering the round we had, it’s not what you want from a bloke that set you back 660k.

As I said in the intro, we’ve got another week before things get serious and we look at trading. That said, keep an eye on Willem Drew, Bailey Scott, and Charlie Constable this week. If they can repeat their round 1 heroics they become non-negotiable must haves next week because of the cash they will generate. Matt Parker’s 87 may be an anomaly considering his role, but if he does back it up he’s another to get into your side.

Hey Now, You’re a Draftstar

Last week: 7/9 picks between 81-115 but ultimately got boned by a 29 from Balta and a 32 from Broad. Didn’t cash.

I’ll again look at Thursday night footy between Richmond and Collingwood tonight. Richmond got reamed in the prelim final last year and will want to make amends, but will find things tough without Alex Rance.

RUC

Nank (13.7k) was brilliant last week and will need another big game tonight. If he can get forward again and kick a few a consecutive 100+ score is on the cards. I’ll never talk you off Brodie Grundy (17k), but his price is prohibitive without throwing a few hail mary’s on this slate. He does average a massive 132 from 3 games against the Tigers last year though. Mason Cox (also a FWD / 9.7k) is also an option with the Rance-less Richmond backline. On paper, I don’t see a matchup for Cox tonight but I’m hopeless at picking a huge Cox game.  

DEF

Targeting running defenders against Richmond worked last week so I’m heading back to the well with that strategy. Jeremy Howe (10.5k) had 8 rebound 50’s last week. Darcy Moore (7.5k) had 7 and is a great way to get value on this slate. He does spoil a lot rather than taking the mark which you don’t get points for in Draftstars. Always target guys who kick rather than handball in Draftstars, James Aish (also a MID / 9.8k) under 10k is a good bet. If you can fit in Jack Crisp (12.1k) he is also a fantastic option. Oleg Markov (5.9k) is far too cheap if he steps into Bachar Houli’s role. Jayden Short (11.2k) averaged 12 more points than his season average last year in games that Houli missed. 

FWD

Both sides are pretty stingy against forwards so I’m happy to be cheap. Jaidyn Stephenson and Jamie Elliot are both 9.2k. Jamie looked sharp last week but his score will be goal dependant. The mosquito fleet is back for Tigers. Castagna, Butler, and Rioli up forward should see extra midfield minutes for Jack Higgins (9.7k). Dan Butler (8.4k) has an okay record against the Pies for his price but is another who won’t see a lot of the ball. If you do want to go against the field, Kane Lambert (13.1k) bagged 112DS last week with plenty of midfield time. He won’t see many owners with the other premiums available.

MID

Richmond don’t tag and the Pies have a lot of very good midfielders who are good at football. They are all in play really but I particularly like Sidebum (14.8k), Pendles (13.k) and Tom Phillips (12.6k). I mentioned Jack Graham (9.7k) last week as being a nice pivot off the cheaper Carlton mids but it should have been the other way round. His price has only risen $200 after his 106 last week and he found plenty of the footy to go along with his love of tackling. I’ll be trying to fit my boy Trent Cotchin (11.4k) in, he is severely underpriced after his role last week looked to be more of a traditional onballer.

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  1. ZzZCalintZzZ says:

    Saw a Crow kill a Magpie this arvo in the car park of my local shopping centre.

  2. Jess says:

    Bloody balta. Cant even loophole the stain

  3. kinglear009 says:

    Putting the "NO" into 'Noah" – Balta's been dropped.

    Considering that, if anything, Rance's injury should've increased his security, you'd have to think he's lost some favour with Hardwick following his lamentable Rd 1 debut.

  4. hedski says:

    Hore, Darraaagggh and Ridley out.
    Could be more carnage on Sunday too, although Collins named on field.

  5. Paul says:

    With Ridley and hire out this means burgess has to be on field. Can I trade now?!

  6. Lekdog says:

    Live stream, let's talk #supercoach teams here: https://www.twitch.tv/lekdoggames

  7. GreendaleFC says:

    Bloody Essendon taking Ridley out, was far from their worst player on the weekend. Very tempted to trade either Ridley or Hore out. Don't want to get an injury during the week and find out I need three trades.

  8. Defying_Madness says:

    Hore, Greene and Balta out is rough for me. Guess I am still holding for now

  9. LtDraught says:

    Well team selections didnt do me well

    All of Greene, Ridley, Hore, Joyce OUT, leaves a donut in my backline already

    Any tips? Im thinking Ridley > Darcy Moore just to avoid the donut, and holding firm for the rest. That way i can swing Moore and Burgess if i need in the future, and use a couple trades next week if no one manages to slip back into their side.
    Other option would be Ridley/Hore/Joyce > Wilkie (just to avoid the donut)
    OR cop a zero and save trades.

    Community, I would love some advice

  10. _Kyle says:

    How about the hawks naming scully. Wasnt due to be back till some time mid year yet here he is round 2. I only hope they havnt rushed him back too soon as they took the very conservative approach with silk and omeara in their first years with the club and managed them well. If he is already back and firing then the hawks may have worked a little magic. Hoping to see skully in the mighty brown and gold for many years to come.

    • Derek says:

      wait until they name Titch in round 19, ready for a run at the finals. 😉

    • TRIGGA_HAPPY says:

      Yeah really amazing.

      Some reports had him not playing this year likening it to a car crash injury.

      Rd 2! Kudos hawks and the medical staff u have done a it again..

      Dip the hat to the recruiters as well. If back rd 2 call the cops. What a heist. What a robbery.

  11. TRIGGA_HAPPY says:

    27 ticks
    Pretty HAPPY

  12. Derek says:

    Remember there is NO reversing Trades after 7.20 tonight.

    Not like last week where we had unlimited trades.

    Early Thursday games, there is always someone who forgets.

  13. TRIGGA_HAPPY says:

    Thanks Kev.

    Rolling with sidey, meatball, cotch and snags in the guts in draftstars tonight.

    Got a few bucks back last week. Hopefully history will repeat tonight.

  14. TommyC99 says:

    Grundy or Cripps?

  15. TommyC99 says:

    Field Parker or scrimshaw? Using Moore and burgess swing

  16. KSinny says:

    Any reason to VC Grundy over Cripps?

  17. Daniel says:

    Balta and Greene out for me in the forward line, is it worth going Greene to Moore this week or hold and make that move next week?

    • Maverick_ says:

      hold daniel have another week to assess unless you think you need both trades next for other corrections like rookies.

      • Daniel says:

        Cheers Maverick, brought in Moore for Greene last night as I need to bring in constable next week for one of my mid rookies (either Walsh or gibbons) plus I need to offload balta too for a forward rookie on the bubble

        • Maverick_ says:

          Good move Daniel. Always got to be thinking a week ahead with trades hey especially with price changes coming next week don’t want to miss a rookie on the bubble. Personally I Wouldn’t trade Walsh to a rookie like constable with shakey JS walsh looked very solid the scores and cash will come mate.

  18. ThatsGoldJerry says:

    People keep saying Collins is out…but he is named at fullback ?

    • KSinny says:

      Yeh idk what's they're on about

    • Lazza says:

      He was reported to have concussion and unlikely to play…. they don’t play till Sunday, so probably reckon he will be ok by then. I’m making sure I have coverage for a late out..just in case

    • Russty_ says:

      I've got Collins on with Burgess backing up ugh…not looking forward to either of their scores.

      • hedski says:

        Same Russ, no trades this week, probably the first time in 3-4 years I haven't had to trade round 1.

        • Russty_ says:

          Hoping Collins plays and does something similar to his 93 JLT game Hed….he's better than what he dished up last week.
          Had a 12 game run at Freo where he averaged 72. I'd take 72.

  19. Defying_Madness says:

    Grundy lol

  20. TOPHAWK1 says:

    WTF is going on with Grundy. He is seriously stinking things up. If this continues, I might have to do the unthinkable in the quest to preserve capital. FML

    • ZzZCalintZzZ says:

      Man I'm seriously considering generating 320k with two trades next week
      Grundy Gawn out.
      Big Mac Sinclair in.

    • TOPHAWK1 says:

      He must have heard my spray. Slowly working into the game. Get moving mate!

      • ZzZCalintZzZ says:

        at his price he should be 60 minimum half time every game. Hope he has a good 2nd and 3rd those two quarters are the golden ones in SC

    • Lazza says:

      He’s on 50 now courtesy of a few frees, … but the Pies high possession game is devaluing their scoring .. e.g. Beams has gone backwards since quarter time but had 5 more possessions and a couple of tackles..

    • _Kyle says:

      My supercoach VC and my personal sanity says cheers mate for giving him the spray. Woke him up

    • Russty_ says:

      None of this silly bastard talk again, he's a gun and that's why you chose his just stepped out of a salon long flowing black maine…lol

  21. Patch says:

    "Shut up, Patch"

    "The Cox Curse isn't rule"

    Grundy's on EIGHT POINTS at quarter time. EIGHT. Motherflipping Dean Cox is out to get you, Kev, and everyone you've ever cared about.

  22. ZzZCalintZzZ says:

    Ok…. going to have a laugh for the Nank owners now just cause….
    We Grundy owners got flack last week 😂

  23. Jack says:

    Dusty is cooked. Still hasn't laid a tackle this season

  24. Holty01 says:

    I hate to think this but this new 6-6-6 rule could be about to remove the ruck importance from the competition. Only 30 stoppages and 23 hit outs in total for the first half. They were down last week from last year but 30 in a half is ridiculous.

    • Russty_ says:

      Grundy's back Holty could go 130 +, reassuring for his owners.

      • Holty01 says:

        It is thankfully. I had no doubt he is still one of the best but the lack of stoppages still worries me a bit.

      • PremiershipEagles says:

        LOL aren't you one of those people who was saying last week 'It's only one game'? Well guess what mate it's only 1 game and he finished 50 below his breakeven

        • Holty01 says:

          it’s a marathon not a sprint. And by the way, that 80 he scored only stays in his 3 round rolling average for 1 week. In the end, nearly all premos go down at some point but barring injury, I’m fairly confident he will be one of the top rucks come seasons end. Good luck trying to get him in to your side.

          • Russty_ says:

            He's actually priceless Holty…best one or two in the game, doesn't matter how much he goes down in price, as long as he keeps pumping the scores out…and when he does, the price will go up again.
            I have a fair idea of who this guy is too, remember him from last year…66, always posting under fake id's

  25. Derek says:

    1041 sc points for Collingwood and 652 sc points for Richmond at half time

    I knew Richmond players for SC was bad, but that is crazy

  26. The Ranger says:

    Hmmm… Balta and Hore out this week, Collins looking ordinary…was thinking of going Atkins to Constable as a correction next week but already that's looking difficult to achieve.
    Could go early on the Atkins – Constable this week to give me two correctives next week?
    Atkins will ton up if I do won't he?

  27. Rocksta_ says:

    Hope you didn’t trade De goey Russty.

    • Maverick_ says:

      only on 60 at 3QT. bucks needs to release him through the guts in the last

      • Russty_ says:

        Yeah I wish Mav, I thought he'd be more points with 4 goals and the contested marks , anyways hopefully he snags a few more in the last.

        • JEL says:

          Haven't got him, but watching the game on TV he seemed more involved than what his SC score suggests.

    • Russty_ says:

      Nah mate still got him, Grundy's doing ok now ay? Crazy hearing how many traded him out lol

      • TOPHAWK1 says:

        Grundy has saved his bacon tonight. Still in the TH side tonight mate. Jack Crisp and Darcy Moore excellent again tonight.

        • Russty_ says:

          Nice one Hawk, gotta ride out the early anomalies…players are still rusty, I don't have Grundy but wish I did, I've started with Gawn and Goldy.

        • Derek says:

          Moore did good.

          59 at half time and faded a bit in second half. But he is looking like he might be one of my last upgrades

  28. Mystic_Mac says:

    Can’t believe people traded Grundy out 🤦🏻‍♂️

    • PremiershipEagles says:

      I can and I understand why. One swallow doesn't make a summer and he'll still finish at least 50 below his breakeven. Compare his stats to sidebottom's and justify his score.

    • TRIGGA_HAPPY says:

      Damn wish I hadnt traded Grundy.

      Oh wait I didnt. 😜

      One of the 7.

  29. PremiershipEagles says:

    Anybody who isn't a Pies supporter could see that the umps are interpreting the rules depending on the jumper colour. Obviously the AFL want the pies in the finals more than they want the tigers in the finals. That's the weakness for Victorian teams if the AFL don't want you to win you wont win. At least with interstate games the umps put their personal safety first.
    Nah sidebottom hasn't thrown the ball 4 times without getting pinged, nah pendle didn't take twice as long as prestia to get rid of the ball without getting pinged, nah degoey didn't put both hands on the shoulders of his opponent to launch for the mark it was all just an optical illusion.

    • Russty_ says:

      Damn those AFL guys, they're worse than Hitler, The X-Files smoking man,and his conspiracy creating mates… yes Collingwood probably paid off the Umpires association, with Crack and free Tattoos, so they could win the game.
      In fact every game is probably rigged for a pre-determined result, it's just that no one but you has been smart enough to figure that out yet.

    • Colin says:

      Thats a bit rough coming from a WCE supporter. People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. Oh wait, west coast believe their own cow manure!

    • Hawk131415 says:

      Gold, absolute gold,,,,

    • Noirlust says:

      As much of a dick as he sounds, he isn't wrong.

      There where quite a few times when Richmond should have had free kicks in there fwd 50.

      Felt the same with the Geelong game too, they picked up more frees than they should have.

      Both winning teams deserved to win, can definitely see the interpretations vary from team to team and also match to match. So much variance across all the games over the weekend.

      • Russty_ says:

        Umps aren't perfect and don't see every little thing that happens, trying to turn it into some kind of conspiracy theory by the AFL is just ludicrous.
        I'd rather see a mark paid like De Goey's than the Ump say, oh no you broke the rules, "no mark"…every time, how boring that would be.
        Someone like that doesn't enjoy Footy, they just spend the whole game analysing it, and looking for faults in the Umpiring…how un-enjoyable that must be.

  30. ZzZCalintZzZ says:

    Cannot believe the Richmond sc scores
    Just 1 player barely over 80pts halfway into the last.

    • Russty_ says:

      It's unreal isn't it?….glad I didn't go with Dusty now, Tigers will be copping an almighty spray this week.

      • ZzZCalintZzZ says:

        Think Dusty needs to become Sloane for me.
        Just no where near good enough

        • Russty_ says:

          Might be a good call Dave.. I know he was tagged by Greenwood but maybe his mental health thing is still an issue for him.

          • ZzZCalintZzZ says:

            yeah and Sloane 40k cheaper and still is one of the best two way midfield gut runners in the comp

            • Russty_ says:

              Reckon if Brad and Matt stay on the park too Dave, other coaches might not bother tagging Sloane. All 3 are equally damaging players.

          • JEL says:

            Apart from a couple of years I haven't been a fan.
            Some worrying signs even last week. He stuck out the "Don't argue" and still got tackled.
            Still does good things for the team, but I'm not convinced for SC.

        • TommyC99 says:

          Don’t ya think ya might be going a tad early? He did Ton up last week albeit easiest ton I’ve ever seen. Just needs to be half decent and he tons. Won’t come up against that calibre tagger very often

  31. Eric_the_Red says:

    I know, don't trade your premiums. But my POD Sidebottom has been appalling. Surely I need to give him the flick?

    • TRIGGA_HAPPY says:

      He was on fire early then disappeared afyer half time

    • kinglear009 says:

      You'd probably consider it if nothing drastic happens with your team – Sloane, Crouch, etc look very appealing. Unless you trust your preseason gut, in which case ride it out

    • Russty_ says:

      I'd say that's surely a thing you don't need to do Eric, everyone has a bad game at some point….not worth a trade.

    • Twilightingale says:

      I wouldn't classify him as a premium mid, my advice would be to trade him while he's at a peak price. I think he'll average around 100 which is good but not enough for a mid. I'd expect Treloar, Beams, Pendles to average more, potentially Adams depending on role.
      Don't think Sidebottom's supercoach relevant.

  32. Rick Grimes says:

    Higgins putting out a rookie score. Just given no opportunities on the ball when the Tiges desperately needed something. Makes no sense.

  33. Pranav says:

    It was pretty easy not pulling the trigger on Grundy or Gawn this week but dusty will be a lot more tempting to trade next week

    • Mr_Pink_ says:

      Agree… playing forward a lot, not tackling, apparently not caring… the Tigers have a tough run of games coming up and it's hard to see him getting interested…

      • Pranav says:

        Just waiting to see how the breakevens look cause Oliver is the midfielder I want. I’m missing Fyfe and will be hurt by not owning him but I didn’t select him based on possible elbow injury and the fact I don’t think he will play 22 games. scoring potential was never in doubt so nothing has really changed on him for me personally after that massive score against norf and the one coming up against gold coast

  34. ZzZCalintZzZ says:

    LOL my brother calling me right now 😂
    He has Grundy, Treloar, Crisp and Moore. Think he is having a stroke guys

  35. Rick Grimes says:

    Grundy scored what he's priced to get. I don't own him, or Nank. But consider. Grundy total points 213. Nank 205. $170k difference. Early doors of course.

    • ZzZCalintZzZ says:

      2 Factors not being told here:

      Nank needed 3 goals to get that 127.
      Grundy vs Nank Grundy winner.

      • Rick Grimes says:

        Can't take goals away to make your argument. Ill take Grundy's cheap frees away then. Haha

      • Noirlust says:

        Grundy vs Stanley
        Stanley winner.

        Boring factors

        After 2 rounds Rick is on point.
        Lets see where we are next week.

    • Nice_Person says:

      GRUNDY IS A JET!

      • ZzZCalintZzZ says:

        actually I can take way goals to make an arguement lol
        You missed my point… Grundy don't need goals to get them 120+ scores
        Nank had the 2nd highest Ruck score because he kicked 3.
        Just like how Westhoff had the highest Ruck score (considering he can be used in that position) he kicked 5.

        Grundy 132 zero goals against Nank
        Nank 127 3 goals against a Tooth pick

  36. Nice_Person says:

    Cheers VC Grundy!

  37. Michael says:

    Looks like a corrective premo trade for Dusty. Currently on Sloane or Rockliff

  38. Rocksta_ says:

    Ripper of a night! Pies smashed the Tiges and I backed my boy Grundy in with the VC.

  39. Maverick_ says:

    Moore looked absolutely fantastic tonight & VC'd treloar i'll be taking his 135. nice to have a few things go my way after my Rd1

    • Derek says:

      Moore did good. 59 at half time, thought he might get to 100.

      He is looking like he might average 80+ and stay in team for a fair while

    • Russty_ says:

      Nice work Mav and that's a good C score there. I'm very happy with Moore and De Goey's score..although De goey depends a lot on goals.

    • ZzZCalintZzZ says:

      Treoar was on fire in the last 10 mins

    • TOPHAWK1 says:

      Darcy Moore at his price has been brilliant. He is an impact player and uses the footy very well.

      • Russty_ says:

        Happy with him too Hawk…hope he stays fit cause will only get better with the extra games and experience playing in defence.

        • Rocksta_ says:

          Darcy looks very comfortable in defense. Definitely not a lazy player anymore. He will be my last Upgrade , if not a keeper. People forget how naturally talented he is. Has the ability to become a gun defender.

    • Rick Grimes says:

      Also VCd Treloar. Will bank it but worried there will be a few monster scores. Fyfe, I'm looking at you.

    • Rick Grimes says:

      If Ridley isn't named next week, will be a straight swap to Moore. Looked at home in def and improving. Body is the concern but it's like that for all of them.

  40. Stupid Coach says:

    Wow! Wasn't expecting such rookie carnage just one week into the season. No Hore, Joyce or Brander. Have coverage so should I hold fire on any trades this week or should I go early and get rid of Hore it Joyce.

    Also, who should I put the VC and C out of Danger, Cripps, Coniglio, Goldy and Macrae.

    Thanks and good luck to all this week.

  41. AuroraBorealis?! says:

    Had a 4 leg multi with a return of 280 from a 10 dollar deposit that didnt eventuate because of the overall points going over 171 by 5, absolutely shattered. At least the pies and Grundy got up though, can't believe so many people traded him out

    • Russty_ says:

      I have no idea what you just said AB…I heard the Grundy part, he got 137 🙂

      • AuroraBorealis?! says:

        Essentially i missed out on 280 bucks because collingwood kicked a goal instead of a point in the last 5 mins

  42. Benjiherb says:

    Beams was disappointing having 50 end of the first quarter finishing with 103

    • Russty_ says:

      That's coz Treloar's a bloody ball hog, even if he does butcher it at times, he gets bloody heaps of the thing….solid pick.

  43. Shake_n_bake says:

    On the train home. Watched Martin closely 2 game in a row no tackles. He just wont!

    • Steeeve says:

      Only wants the cheap kicks and isn't prepared to work hard enough. Averaged over 80 tackles per year 2014-17. Barely had 50 last year. That's exactly 2hy I wouldn't start him. And the downward trend continues.

    • The Unsullied says:

      Does not look at all interested.

    • TOPHAWK1 says:

      That is why he owns 65 SC points for his efforts tonight. No tackles, and few or no contested pozzies. That means he is in exit strategy mode.

  44. Steeeve says:

    Liking that I can go Collins to lockart in a fortnight. Hopefully Hore to Wilkie next week (assuming Wilkie plays well again).

  45. The Unsullied says:

    Moore looked good again, if you were confident he could get to the byes he might be worth the elevated price.

    • Russty_ says:

      He's not a rookie so not really at an elevated price, he's actually cheap for a guy with rock solid JS…will improve too with more experience.

    • NoLanguage96 says:

      Really good. Should make $150k easy

  46. TOPHAWK1 says:

    Collingwood are ready to win a flag. They absolutely destroyed Richmond tonight. GWS are the team in their way in 2019. Welcome!

    • Russty_ says:

      Reckon they could be hard to beat Hawk…were a hair's breath away from winning it all last year, bloody Sheed….lol, they're definitely contenders, so much talent in their squad.

    • Noirlust says:

      Too bad the GF is still 6 months away

  47. NoLanguage96 says:

    Jeez Dusty was poor. Hold or trade next week community?

    • Russty_ says:

      Maybe see how your Dusty to who? possibilities go this week yet mate.

    • Sharkmove_King says:

      Must go. Bontempelli will be popular, maybe Fyfe if you have cash. Sheed or Rocky for those who like to live on the edge

    • NoLanguage96 says:

      Thinking either Bont or Fyfe. I have Ridley too so maybe Ridley down to Wilkie/Constable via Duursma and Dusty up to Fyfe/Bont

    • TelescopicCox says:

      I'd move him to M.Crouch if you don't have him, or see how Bont, Sheed or Rocky back it up. Rocky will give you some wriggle room to readjust your structure

      • NoLanguage96 says:

        Thanks mate. I do have Matty Crouch but not Fyfe so if he tears GC up I think I'm just gonna do it.

    • The Ranger says:

      Gonna be tempting eh NoL?
      Gotta place a higher priority on the rookies correctives tho I think, I'm one of those that traded Menegola out early last year and that didn't turn out well.
      Dusty tonned up in Rd 1 without breaking a sweat and last nights score was Greenwood affected.

    • Derek says:

      the good thing about dusty, he will play every week

    • Lazza says:

      I will likely trade Martin depending upon how Oliver goes (yes, I said 500 times not to pick him first up and what did I do ..idjet ) … and see how Menegola performs.. I have 6 and 2 in the middle, so might move Martin's role FWD. Otherwise I will have to move Collins out this week to generate the cash to get to Fyfe. My other MIDs are Macrae, Cripps, Oliver, Yeo and MCrouch,

    • John says:

      I am going to rage trade Dusty next week. Slow. Tagged and zero tackles in two weeks.

      Bont is one option (but as $ are tight that means I will be stuck with Gibbons even if he falls flat rather than swapping in Scott if he does well… ) .
      Other options include Sloane or Westhoff via DPP.

  48. Rick Grimes says:

    Q: How do you know if someone is a Grundy owner?
    A: Don't worry, they'll tell you.

    • Rocksta_ says:

      A: Because they have a 137 banked for the weekend as a Captain’s score, whilst everyone else is at the mercy of the SC Gods.

    • Holty01 says:

      Lol yeah this is true Rick. Grundy owners copped it last week so nice to get one back. But I have a question for you.
      Q: How do you know if someone isn’t a Grundy owner?
      A: Don’t worry, they’ll tell you (when he has a bad game)
      I love the banter on this site. I have a feeling that this will go on all year with people trying to justify why or why not they started Grundy. I think we will only find out come seasons end if it was the right move or not.

      • Rick Grimes says:

        Yea it's just fun banter. I'd love to own him but rolled the dice. Just hope Gawn bounces back too. Can't take another sulky effort.

    • TOPHAWK1 says:

      I love it Rick!! I am so relieved Grundy delivered last night. Because I tell you what, had Grundy gone sub 100 I would have punted him for Mumford next week to preserve the $708K spend on him and raise mega cash for major upgrades on other lines. I am happy that my hand is no longer forced in having to do that. Grundy is fit and will be this year's number one ruck. He was magnificient after quarter time last night. Glad i gave him the biggest spray of all time. LOL

    • Prizza says:

      As a pie fan i wanted him to do well , as a supercoacher i wanted him to slowly climb so i could get him in at a discount, what will his break-even be next week ? any idea

  49. BlueBaggerJosh says:

    Absolutely cannot wait to trade moore into the side, those flowing blonde locks in the backline are undeniable. I'm stuck with old fart hanley 🙂

  50. TOPHAWK1 says:

    Damn!! I am so bloody tempted community. Yes, I know this move can be seen as an arrogant sideways trade, but Angus Brayshaw up to Fyfe is so tempting, I am not sure if I can hold myself back. Fyfe looked incredible last week, barely out of second gear for 147 SC. He will destroy the Gold Coast on Sunday and would make the perfect captain. My midfield would then be: Cripps, Fyfe, Coniglio, Matt Crouch, Tom Rockliff, Brad Crouch, Walsh and Scott. (Setterfield, Constable, Gibbons). Dangerfield up forward. Be honest community, am I just being greedy/ undiscliplined or smart by being agressive and setting up my side. I play for rank. Objective feedback would be great.

    • BoltonsBlues says:

      Dusty to Fyfe after this week for me Tophawk, Dusty to worried about the weekday nose beers and not enough focus on his footy.
      Lazy, no interest, traffic warden, evefytime he got the ball all he did was slow it down and point like he was a traffic controller

    • nankthetank says:

      Give it another week hawk, price wont change and you'll be able to see both in action again before making a decision. You picked brayshaw for a reason so give him more than a week

    • KeenButClueless says:

      It could be that Fyfe might be unreachable going forward. In that case I would say that this is s smart move. I am of the opinion that MacRae Cripps and Fyfe might be the 3 top mids. If so, without Fyfe you will only have one of the trinity. That might make it difficult. I don’t mind it as a corrective.

      • Maverick_ says:

        There not on the bubble yet though KBC if they were then you’d pull the trigger.. assuming you haven’t got a rookie crisis TH and don’t need two trades Nxt week to correct those just wait I think brayshaw & all of melb will bounce back.

    • Sharkmove_King says:

      Justify it by naming Fyfe captain straight up.

      • TOPHAWK1 says:

        If I pulled the trigger mate, Fyfe would be named captain. Rockliff VC.

        • JohnDJ59 says:

          There's a rumour going around on twitter that B.Crouch could be a late out for tonight's game against the Swans.

          • TOPHAWK1 says:

            I bloody well hope not! If B Crouch is OUT then TH will take his finger of the trade lever. You got me nervous. Any idea where this rumour has come from and its credibility?

    • Derek says:

      one game into the season isn't enough to convince me Fyfe will play 22 games

      he did play norf in perth

    • Holty01 says:

      hi Hawk. I’ll say the same as what I said to the people wanting to bring in Rocky.
      Why didn’t you start Fyfe? If you had the money initially and ended up with Brayshaw, you must of had doubts in Fyfe.
      Just think of the reasons you didn’t start him because I doubt those reasons would have changed. For me, I didn’t start him because he misses games, and his elbow was a worry. These reasons have not changed imo so I won’t touch him until probably after the byes. This might cost me points but I’m sticking to my guns for not starting him.

    • TRIGGA_HAPPY says:

      Wow better have the ambulance on speed dial hawk.

      Crouch, rocky and Fyfe!

      How many games have those 3 played in total last 3 years?

  51. Beezneez says:

    I had Fyfe in my team till just before rnd 1 started and swapped him for Crouch on account of comments about his (Fyfe's) elbow.i want him back in but the only way I can do it atm is to trade B Smith to Wilkie and then B Crouch to Fyfe. Wishing there was a better way and won't do it depending on the scores from B Crouch and Smith and Wilie or Lockhart. Think you need to do the same and evaluate your choices. Brayshaw is certainly capable of high scores. I'm thinking of holding and looking at rookie price rises after round 3 to see if there are smarter alternatives in the coming weeks. Also down the track want Macrae and probably J Kelly but we can't have them all at once. If I had Brayshaw (and was close but chose Oliver) I would wait and see what eventuates.

    • Beezneez says:

      Second thoughts. Most of my comments were based on my own situation. But looking at your mids they certainly lool better with Fyfe in. I say disregard my comments and do the trade as you are playing for rank and looking to maximise your points especially with Fyfe against GC. History shows Fyfe should easily outscore Brayshaw.

      • Lazza says:

        and you have quite a few weeks before having to consider JKelly.

      • TOPHAWK1 says:

        Thanks Beezneez. Fyfe in there with Cogs, Cripps, M Crouch, and Rocky in there so early could propel my season. Will see how the Crouch boys, Rocky and Cripps go first before I make the call.

  52. Sharkmove_King says:

    Most would agree that 130+ is a good loophole score to take as captain, but what if you still have 2 cracks at it?

    Put it this way, would you rather have 137 in the bank on Grundy, or to have not used the loophole at all yet?

    Would you back Cripps and/ or Fyfe to beat 137?

    • Harley says:

      For the sake of possibly getting an extra 10 points or most likely losing 30-40 take the money and run. That’s 137 points. You take that everyday of the week!

    • Rick says:

      The possibility of injuries to Cripps/Fyfe makes banking Grundy's score a no-brainer

    • Twilightingale says:

      Fyfe a very good chance to score 137+, especially against Gold Coast, couldn't ask for a better match up.
      Would hold off captaining Cripps just purely on what Port did to Melbourne's mids last week and Oliver's lack of influence. Would use him VC to mitigate the risk.

    • The Ranger says:

      I'm tempted by the Fyfe option 'cos he could go huge against that Suns midfield Shark but I think we have to take 137.

    • Lazza says:

      Fyfe yes, averages 140 against GCS witha high score of 160. Cripps no… his all time average against Port is 117. His highest ever was 136.

    • Derek says:

      my cut off for VC is 139.

      I did have Grundy VC… i guess i stick to my plan

      • Jess says:

        If you have fyfe just be happy with his score if he goes 140+. He is spending more time on the bench lately, so if he isnt perfect he will stuggle. Also lack of loophole options so would want to be sure

  53. The Green Shoots says:

    Have Ridley, Hore and Joyce… do i cop the donut or trade in Wilkie, Schultz (Via DPP) or anyone of note. Not too keen on the other rookies job security and don't want to burn a trade for someone who will get dropped in 2 weeks. Thoughts would be appreciated

    • JohnDJ59 says:

      I'd be trading in one of them, you don't want a donut this early.

    • Lazza says:

      As John said, don't take a donut this early in the season.. there is a fair chance that one or two will be on your bench for sometime … cant afford not be generating cash.. .. you also have DPP Jay Lockhart (DEF/MID) selected this week and Moore (via DPP) as another option if he is confirmed as a starter later today.

  54. Tiger says:

    Hi community was working last night and was unable to check out the teams before the start of last nights game. Unfortunately the Supercoach Gods have struck early and I have Ridely, Joyce and Hore all out. If I’d known earlier I would have traded Ridley for Moore only at this stage. I’m playing leagues only of which 1 league starts this round . So my question is do I cop a donut now or trade in Wilke this round and then trade in Moore( who I need) for one of the others next week ? If I don’t trade in Moore I’ll be playing 3 rookies on field each week . Must admit I’m thinking of copping a donut and waiting till next week. Thanks in advance for any advice.

  55. Twilightingale says:

    Does Balta come back in for Riewoldt?

    • Derek says:

      I hope no one traded Balta out

      • dontblushbaby says:

        Over 10,000 did ,I didn't a waste a trade on it ,he was always going to come back again , Dimma loves him , he was dropped for team balance only against the opposition ,not that it helped

    • Rick Grimes says:

      He might but he'll still be rubbish.

      • Twilightingale says:

        If not for Riewoldt, Grimes suspension should see him a game.
        Different situation for Balta. You’d assume he’ll have a bigger role and more game time with their outs.

  56. Mystic_Mac says:

    Thoughts on Wilkie's job security community? Currently running Burgess on field.. Hore and Joyce on the pine. Don't really want to burn a trade on Wilkie who may be out next week. Cheers community

  57. Nathan Mancusi says:

    What to do with Sidebottom? Another sub-par (SC) score…

    • Edd says:

      I don't see him get the ball that much anymore. Especially with Pendles, Treolar, Crisp, Beams, De Goey all contesting for the ball in the mid.
      Sidebottom still gets mid time but i dont see him contesting for it as well as the others. Taylor Adams back in 1-2 weeks and D. Wells back in 3-4.

      I don't recon he will keep a 90+ average.
      Up to you but I'd say trade him. As shitty as a sideways trade is i just dont see sidebottom scoring big

    • Derek says:

      i listened to the first half on the radio while driving home, all i heard was Sidebottom, sidebottom, sidebottom

      i was surprised by his score. but he never has been very Supercoach friendly, more of the other game suited.

    • Eric_the_Red says:

      I'm in the same boat. Thinking a sideways trade, although frustrating, might be the way to go. Watching sloane and MCrouch tonight. Beams also a possibility.

  58. Edd says:

    Got Ridley and M. Hore both out on the bench. Sitting with D5 S. Collins, and D6 Clark. Risky having collins on ground. And gonna need a spare trade if i want to try to get in Sheed or Newman after Round 2.

    Considering trading Ridley or Hore. Either moving burgess back for an emergency and putting M. Parker into the forward.
    or
    Getting C. Wilkie into the backline. Dont really wanna trade Ridley or Hore but i feel so risky having Collins on ground. Especially with no emergency

    Thoughts?

    • UpBeat says:

      Collins got knocked around last week so I recommend holding him give him another chance. Not sure why Ridley got the flick, he wasn't the problem.

  59. RoyWetard says:

    What do you think of Drew's job security?

  60. ZzZCalintZzZ says:

    Man I gots no ideaz whatsa happyining with the farkan rookies from round 2-5 >.<

  61. Hawk131415 says:

    Scully to play, you little Anzac

  62. dontblushbaby says:

    Memo – Ross Lyon – please play Lachlan Schultz again , he was very good last week and because I have Greene & Balta I do not want a donut , Thanks mate

  63. JoelP says:

    I am thinking i will cull collins to give myself the opportunity of two correctives next week… i may not make 2 but will have a bank an atleast the option
    Does anyone know what scrimshaws JS is like and do we know much about lockhart??

    thanks

    • Derek says:

      i think they must like him at hawthorn.

      Mirra was dropped this week to make way for Scully.

      Howe and Wingard should also be back next week, they are midfield and forward, Cousins and Nash are the likely ones to make way.

      Birchell is at least another 2 months away, but Brand is a good player and might put pressure on Scrimshaw for his spot. but for now it is his to lose.

      He started rough and nervous last week, but did some nice things in the second half. Will improve on the run.

      • JoelP says:

        thanks derek.
        I think i might go scrimshaw looks to be too many dees to come back into there 22 for lockhart to nail a spot down.
        If anyone knows anything about him though please speak up i am all ears

    • Danners says:

      Give it a week for Collins, unless you exactly know who you are going to trade out. Lockhart's JS would be pretty low

  64. dontblushbaby says:

    For anyone taking Grundys or Treloar ect VC score don't forget to put C on the donut and the E on your bench player eg in my case Bines – C , Gawn – E , every year we hear heaps of people who forget or don't know what to do.

    • Rick Grimes says:

      Sage advice. And mine, check it once, check it twice and if you're 100% sure, check it again.

  65. Maverick_ says:

    Tom Campbell named for north, uh oh!

  66. NumbersNerd says:

    Just analysing the stats from last nights game and wondering how my R1 scored 137. Don't get me wrong I'm not complaining but it just doesn't add up.
    8 kicks (6 effective), 15HB (11 effective), 7 marks (1 contested, 1 from opposition kick), 2 tackles, 28 hitouts (10 to advantage) 4 frees against! 5 hanball receives and the truly strange bit 11 of his posessions counted as contested! This is strange because only 1 mark was contested and to work out contested possessions you subtract 6 from his disposal total you get 17, then take away the 5 hb receives because they weren't contested you're left with 12, then minus the 1 free for you get 11. I'm sure I saw him pick up at least 4 loose balls but it looks like they've been counted as contested possessions.
    If you don't have him I wouldn't be trading him in just yet it looks like he got a 20-30 points gift due to the tigers being so poor and CD's need to distribute a specific amount of points each game.

    • Derek says:

      Contested possessions are very misleading.

      A Contested possession is when two players have a chance (doesn't have to be equal) of getting the ball. It can be either a Contested Mark, a Hard Ball Get or a Loose Ball Get.

      The difference between a Hard Ball get and a Loose ball get is:

      A Hard ball get is when there is direct physical pressure.

      A Loose ball get is when there is an opponent within 1 meter, but doesn't apply any physical pressure. (give Cyril a meter head start, it ain't a contest).

      Contested possessions on average will net a player about 4 points plus whatever they earn for the disposal (remember CD will score players on their possession – how they GOT the ball, and their disposal – how they got RID of the ball). However, i have looked at this very closely and i found that Hard Ball Gets are worth closer to 6 points and Loose ball gets are closer to 2.5 points on average.

      Even though the stats will call both hard Ball gets and Loose Ball gets as "Contested Possessions"

      • Derek says:

        there is always an element of where and when the points were scored.

        where on the field. A mark from an opponent right in front of goals will score better than a mark out on the wing.

        when it was done is very important. A contested possession with 1 minute to go and your team 1 point in front will do better than the same possession with your team 50 points in front.

        You just cant try and work out the points based on the raw data.

        Most people don't even know the difference between a possession and a disposal.

      • Lazza says:

        To Derek’s point … Grundy had a significant impact on clearances in the 2nd half through ‘Contested’ handballs where he grabbed the ball in a pack contest and cleared it via handball.. many of those disposals ultimately resulting in goals ..

        And for those who noticed Grundy struggling to keep pace in the Q4 of R1 will have noticed a marked difference in his ground coverage in the 4th Q this week.

    • UpBeat says:

      Impact. Think Fyfe.

    • Saritz says:

      From time to time the HeraldSun publishes a complete breakdown of CD's breakdown of a players score. I find it fascinating reading, and gives you a far better perspective for what is going on behind the scenes/stats. In particular, pressure acts are awarded points (or part points), so essentially a player can have no marks/disposals, yet still accumulate points.

      While I guess there is definitely room for some conjecture in scoring at a micro level, I wouldn't assume for a minute that CD "gift" scores. Their paying clients, in particular AFL clubs, would demand accuracy so they can perform accurate player analysis. Any rouge employee that was caught deliberately undermining the integrity of Champion Data's intellectual property would be swiftly terminated.

      • JEL says:

        CD also do continuous grading during the game to get it as close to 3300 at the end of the game.
        That way there isn't a huge correction after the game.

    • nankthetank says:

      He had 4 frees for not 4 frees against though

  67. The Green Shoots says:

    Who's the best rookie to trade in need one so don't cop donut, Wilkie, Schultz or Lockhart?

  68. Pranav says:

    Is it madness to bench bailey Scott? I currently have Walsh locked in m7 and I’m slightly favouring constable in m8 cause I thought he looked good. Didn’t watch the north game but a ton plus rising star means i shouldn’t bench him right?

    • cash_cows says:

      I believe constable score was boosted a little higher because he kicked one of the last goals.
      Personally I'm going scott

      • dontblushbaby says:

        I have Walsh at 7 and Scott at 8 with Butters,Settlefield & Gibbons on the bench, not sure if I'm right though , don't have Constable

      • Pranav says:

        Yeah I think I should go Scott just to be safe. Forward line a lot easier I think Setterfield and drew are better than petrucelle and Parker and in defence just looping Duursma cause I can he will need to go under 50 for me to consider burgess lol

  69. Benjiherb says:

    Blakey fuk

  70. Russty_ says:

    Sorry everyone, I put the VC on Matt Crouch, I think I broke him.

  71. TOPHAWK1 says:

    Heeney is dropping another turd. Dodged a bullet not picking him. What a lazy prat. Bit like Dusty.

    • Locked and Loaded says:

      Play him through the guts

    • Lazza says:

      He’s never been a 120 min player.. which is why I’ve never selected him.. Dunkley and Menegola well before I’d consider Heeney

    • Rick Grimes says:

      Running through the middle now. Will ton up at current rate.

      • Lazza says:

        Yeh, but he will go fwd again or sit on the bench… he hasn’t got the tank ( which is what I meant by not playing 120 mins) he needs goals to ton up

        • Locked and Loaded says:

          Doesn’t need goals to tonne up at all… was on fire then just got penalised for a tough 50m penalty… guarantee you won’t be happy you didn’t pick him soon enough… get him in

    • Rick Grimes says:

      Take it back. He's laying a filthy cable, alright. What an underperforming git.

  72. Jack says:

    Sloane continues to prove the haters wrong. Such a bargain at his price

  73. Hawk131415 says:

    Whats with deleting my comments??

  74. Lazza says:

    Did u see Franklin’s goal 😯

    • Russty_ says:

      Bloody freakish Lazza, but he should be kicking 5 of those a game for his salary 🙂

    • Rick Grimes says:

      On the occasions I've owned him I always felt more comfortable seeing I'm take an impossible speccie from the sideline than straight in front.

  75. Rick Grimes says:

    Lloyd is SC royalty. Worth every cent.

    • JohnDJ59 says:

      I was going to go Mills > Lloyd before the game, but I told myself not to trade till next week.

      • Russty_ says:

        I think Mills is a bust John, someone like Andrews could be a nice Pod.

        • JohnDJ59 says:

          Andrews was the other one I was thinking about today, then I thought, give them all another week and see how they go, I might just trade Mills down to Moore.

          • Russty_ says:

            Yeah good call too, you'd have some nice cash in the bank then to make some moves in the next few weeks.

            • JohnDJ59 says:

              Yes just under 190k cash just for that trade plus what I have in the bank, so I will have a few options for the other trade.

    • TOPHAWK1 says:

      Yep. Could not agree more. I dont have him, but I will be moving hell and high water to get him in during the season.

    • Russty_ says:

      Gotta afford to get him in at some point dangit.

    • TRIGGA_HAPPY says:

      Class is class.
      So clean by foot

      Man crush. 🙂

  76. hedski says:

    Brodie Smith looks like he's going to earn his spot, chugging along nicely.

  77. BlueBaggerJosh says:

    Collins down to Wilkie, upgrade Greene or field Petruccelle and pray to God that he goes alright?

    • Russty_ says:

      Collins could go ok this week Josh and Greene could be ok next week, it won't be the end of the world if Petrucelle gets 50 or so.

  78. Russty_ says:

    What a tool!…gets a hundred metre penalty and kicks into the man on the mark…stoopid.

    • Hawk131415 says:

      Your taught from jnrs. go back and kick over the man on the mark, he was 15 out why go so close?? dumbarse!!!

  79. Hawk131415 says:

    100m rule is farking garbage!!!

    • JEL says:

      I think it's great.
      I want a free flowing game, and that cynical [email protected] of bumping a player while he's running to his spot after a 50m is something I don't mind them getting pinged for.

      Was funny to see McVeigh trying to milk it late in the game.

  80. Russty_ says:

    How's all the crappy SC scores?…how are they even gonna get it to 3300?

    • BlueBaggerJosh says:

      Give Lloyd all the points like they always do, not complaining he is in my team !

    • Russty_ says:

      200 more sc points to be allocated in the last 2 minutes…doesn't seem right somehow, should just be based on what they do, and not have a limit on it.

    • JohnDJ59 says:

      I'm down about 75 pts from last week, just from the four players tonight.

    • Russty_ says:

      I just saw how they do it when they haven't got enough points to make up 3300 total, they add 1-2 or 3 points on to almost everyone's score, they were almost 200 points short with 2 mins to go.
      Then they re-watch the game afterwards and adjust accordingly for anything they've missed or stuffed up, I wouldn't like that job,

  81. Holty01 says:

    Wow I was about to have a crack at M Crouch only to realise he is up to 68. I didn’t even notice him that quarter

  82. Ja191 says:

    horse is so annoying, play your players where they are good

    • Rick Grimes says:

      Yep. Swans looked good when Heeney ran through the middle 2nd qtr. Then not sighted.

      • The Ranger says:

        Surely he has to put Mills and Heeney in there more often, that midfield is just not getting it done.

  83. Rick Grimes says:

    Heeney bloody average but he'll still be top 6 fwd you'd think. Keep cool.

    • BlueBaggerJosh says:

      Will be looking forward to picking him up a bit cheaper later on

    • TOPHAWK1 says:

      He is now on my radar as a fallen premo. He was all over the place tonight. Up forward, down back, just running around like a headless chook. Just like last week. When Horse decides what his proper role is, he will perform much better. Sydney lost tonight, so whatever they were trying to do has failed. If you have him just keep him.

  84. Nice_Person says:

    Not starting Heeney is looking like a good choice so far

    • Maverick_ says:

      yeah he is going to be a real pain in the butt and a cause a serious migraine! can't afford to offload a premo but will probably continue to stink it if he can't get more midfield minutes.

    • TOPHAWK1 says:

      Could not agree more. I somehow despite all the hype and hoohaa decided not too start him. Despite his great pre season and fitness, his poor form last year just made me sit on the fence and watch him to start 2019. He has done nothing in the first two rounds to make me feel he is any different to last year. Overrated.

    • Rick Grimes says:

      Better then your Lynch pick.

  85. Tommo09 says:

    Mills…what to do, what to do?
    Planned on a role in the middle but stuck in the backline

    • JohnDJ59 says:

      He will be my first traded out next week, a rookie would have scored better.

    • One Touch Wonder says:

      I actually benched Mills tonight. Now have to decide between Burgess, Parker or Petuucelle who to put on field. Any thoughts if any of them could go better than 49? Mills gone next week.

  86. Russty_ says:

    I reckon let's all not have a crack at each-other for picking certain players, If we all succumb to pre-season peer group pressure we'll all end up picking the same bunch of dudes.
    I've picked some dodgy mofo's this year and I'm sure everyone has picked one or two.
    Let's respect each-other's choices and see how it pans out at the pointy end of the season.
    There are a lot of variables that come into play before then.
    Depends on why you play this game too, purely for rank or to win as many Leagues as possible.
    I believe the enjoyment of it is through the season, not necessarily the final rank or result. The banter during the year is the bonus for the entertainment value.

    • ZzZCalintZzZ says:

      Yup I gots Lynch from Richmond
      Heeney and Martin as well lol. I don't feel sorry for myself though 😝

      • Russty_ says:

        All three could work out ok if you don't rage em out of there Dave…sometimes you just need to wait a bit.
        If I had Lynch I'd stick with him.

    • TRIGGA_HAPPY says:

      Picked my 7 reasons and the top scorer in each position and sprinkled in a crow flavour and built around that.

      Only time will tell ….

    • Hawk131415 says:

      Why are people doing that? think they are perfect and have the perfect side after 1 rd??? clowns!!

      • Hawk131415 says:

        See how Prick Rhymes is going at seasons end??

        • Russty_ says:

          Rick's a good guy Hawk, you might not know the history between those 2…and NP and a bunch of other people, he seems to have toned down the ego a bit now, but still had a go at Rick. Old habits die hard.

          • Hawk131415 says:

            Well ive noticed a few digs, i dont understand it in here, its a community, thought we'd all help or give opinions? not get put down for your questions or opinions?? seems like different rules for different fools!!!!

            • Russty_ says:

              Unless you were here last year you wouldn't have seen what transpired….NP and his best mate SC-66 were bagging the crap out of everyone for their choices, early, mid and late in the season, less late because they'd both ran out of trades by then and were in a steady decline in their rankings. They ranked high early, but then faded badly because of their "aggressive trading policy", which they advised was the right call for everyone earlier. that proved to be wrong because if you don't have trades at the business end, you're stuffed.
              Both had to resort to desperation picks for their last few trades to try not to slip down too badly but it didn't work.
              One was ranked in the top 30 at one point and the other at 500 or so.
              They both ended up ranked 10000+ and 3000 +.

              • Hawk131415 says:

                Yeah i was in and out, could see it was taking a shit turn so stayed away a bit, so didnt see any of that, ive been here for years, but like i said awhile ago, i know why Myself, Pie, Throtts, General and Dools left!!! Thought id give it another look this year,, was looking worse but seems to be getting better,,,, a little,,,

                • Russty_ says:

                  Just gotta stay positive Hawk…and the negative ones will generally fall away, some people have nothing in their lives but trying to put people down online, pretty pathetic really, I grew up in the age where people connected with each-other in real life.
                  NP aka SC-WoW is still here, but I harbour no ill feelings towards him, if he can conduct himself in a manner which doesn't reflect what he did here last year, his mate SC-Sixty6 has been banned I think, he was a nasty piece of work.
                  It's much better than it was before, hopefully everyone will get with the idea that this is a community and not fall into the negative vibes of how a lot of the internet is these days, with people attacking others..just to make themselves feel better.
                  Those odd few who post occasionally whining about how everyone does the same thing here will maybe learn that, they're not welcome here, cause they're only trying to disrupt the harmony of the good people here.
                  This site for me…is fun, pure fun, and joy and that's what life should be about if you can find it…those that seek to destroy that can go FK off as far as I'm concerned. 🙂

    • thats what trades are for Russty ,to organise your team and correct mistakes. It just a matter of timing. I had Franklin this time last year and dumped him only to pick him up 4 rounds on, same with Newman.Some of these players like Heeney and Merrett need time

    • Lazza says:

      Well, right now I have no idea how good or bad my team is … with Greene missing, Dusty’s R2 performance.. Gawn, Oliver and Yeo spudding it in R1, rookies dumped after R1 and the need to make a trade now to ensure I have 2 corrective trades next week. Not helped by my gameday VC/C and onfield rookie choices .. wrong choices cost me 136 pts in R1 but with 7 games to go in R2 it could end up ok.. after R3 or R4 is when I willl get a realistic reading.. in the meantime I’ll chew over the players I didn’t pick.. some I’m happy about.. and some more I’m not.

      • JohnDJ59 says:

        Hi Lazza, I agree with most of that, in fact I have to say right at this moment I'm happier with my rookies than my premos, at least B.Smith is working out.

    • TOPHAWK1 says:

      I agree Russty. You have to enjoy the ride over the whole season. Each round brings new challenges and excitement. We all pick at least one to 2 duds every season. I have Billings after starting with him last year as well. He could drop an almighty turd today and punish me again. But thats the way the game rolls. Cheers mate.

    • Tyruddanaut says:

      Your just upset because you choose Dangerfield and he had a bad go and now you are your are bad

  87. hedski says:

    I'm going to rage trade Heeney Monday.
    Then reverse trades Thursday.

    • Hawk131415 says:

      im going to trade Heeney sunday night, and be happy with it

      • Russty_ says:

        Heeney to Worpedo could be a good one if Worp goes north of 100.

        • JohnDJ59 says:

          Just the trade I was thinking of Russty, then my two Sydney players will be gone from my team and I will have a nice lot of cash ready to use for upgrades.

        • Sharkmove_King says:

          A trade is worth about ~150k. Given that the difference between the two is less than that, are you confident Worpel outscores Heeney from Round 3 onwards? I don't think I would be

    • Nice_Person says:

      Sydney will come good, they always do.
      Jpk is still a star, Parker is a jet. They have the blues next week

  88. Andy says:

    Cripps, Cogs or Neale C?

  89. Holty01 says:

    Well Heeney has been overly disappointing first 2 weeks but if I’ve learnt anything from trading Menegola out rd2 last year was have faith in ur premos. Heeney will hopefully come good soon. I will hold and keep the faith

    • Russty_ says:

      Sydney do tend to improve during the year Holty.

    • Nice_Person says:

      Just out of curiosity has heeney shown a high ceiling in the last couple of years?

      • Holty01 says:

        No. Never has but for someone who doesn’t have a high ceiling and also think he has never reached his potential, but still averages near 100 each season, thought he was one of the more reliable to start.
        Unfortunately it has just come out that Heeney has a ankle problem which is restricting him through the midfield.

        • Nice_Person says:

          Yeah his lack of a ceiling left me feeling comfortable that I could get him at a lower price. Then with the ankle injury in jlt 2 I thought it take a while to get going. Not sure trading him out is the right move. Youd think he still manages top 6

          • Holty01 says:

            Yeah, could end up being a smart move not starting him. If he is at about 420k come about r6, I’m sure people will be very happy not starting him. I was never going to trade him as I’m sure he would bounce back but now knowing he has a ankle issue, mytrade finger is getting itchy.

    • Rick says:

      Heeney is an overrated 'gunna'. A bit like Mills. Never considered either of those blokes.

  90. Holty01 says:

    Heeney apparently has a ankle problem. Horse won’t play him much through midfield until ankle better.
    Source is afl.com

    • dontblushbaby says:

      Yep, and Mills will play back until Grundy returns

      • Holty01 says:

        These things would be nice to know b4 the season started. Kelly would of been his replacement which just adds to the problem.

        • Boris_Baconbeer says:

          Sometimes I wonder if you should treat a player playing through injury just as a damn injury not playing if they are still giving out spud scores anyway. Meaning sideways as if injured and out. I think I will keep Heeney anyway but I agree it would be nice to know.

    • TOPHAWK1 says:

      I think that is spot on Holty. Remember he rolled/landed very awkwardly after getting the first midfield pozzie in JLT2? Then in last week's game he took a huge mark up forward and again landed very hardly. I could see he was wincing in pain when he got up to take his kick. He pretty much did very little for the rest of that game too. Fot coaches who dont have him, he could be come a ripper fallen premo target in the the month or so.

  91. DavidC says:

    I see Tom Campbell is on the bench for North. Going to affect Goldy?

    • TOPHAWK1 says:

      That is the big question. I have Goldy and will be watching this like a hawk. If Goldy spuds due to reduced work load created by Campbell, he may turn into Mumford next week.

      • Sharkmove_King says:

        That's risky….Are you confident Mummy will even be named next week? Has he been playing reserves or nothing at all?

        • TOPHAWK1 says:

          He would have to be named SK, and it is just a possible option. I hope Goldy pumps out a tonne and Campbell has no influence. But should he drop a turd, the possible Mumford selection is also about raising cash for juicy upgrades.

    • Maverick_ says:

      I hope Campbell’s there as another tall target to make going to brown less predictable. He may ruck the fwd 50 but that’ll give rests to Goldy to go harder around the ground

  92. Tyruddanaut says:

    Mills going into the watch list

    • JohnDJ59 says:

      I've seen enough, he's gone next week for Moore.

      • Yep agree John never liked Moore but this year he is more relevant.One of the season's gets I am going Butters to Moore..I think Zac is the most vulnerable when Wines comes back but could change today

        • JohnDJ59 says:

          Hi Neil, yes I wasn't convinced about Moore, but after the last two games I think he's a must have for his price, gets rid of someone I never should have picked and helps with a cash injection for upgrades in the coming weeks.

  93. TommyC99 says:

    Probably a popular question but should we be fielding butters or constable?

    • JohnDJ59 says:

      I'm fielding Constable but only because Butters plays first. A toss of the coin really, both are playing at home, so who knows, you can only go on last week, so Constable wins going on that.

    • Lekdog says:

      Constable, his possession per minute rate is huge

  94. Maverick_ says:

    Flirting with heeney to Lloyd next week. Lloyd’s going to be a must have and heeney dropping turds. If nothing else more important arises before next weekend that may be my trade done.

    TKelly also an option will watch him closely tonight

  95. ZzZCalintZzZ says:

    HEY YOU GUYS!

    Baby…..Ruth?

  96. Tom says:

    Butters or Scott on field?

    • ZzZCalintZzZ says:

      Hard one but I am leaning towards Scott. Do you have Wagner on your bench like me? If you do just bench Butters and whack the E on him. If he has 60+ at 3qtr time put Wagner on field.

  97. TOPHAWK1 says:

    Scott, Constable, or Setterfield on field at M8? Tricky one this week. Thoughts community?

    • Mick says:

      I’m going Scott

      • Maverick_ says:

        I went scott TH. Constable kicked a late goal in a tight game to get that 80. If he didn’t he had himself 60 pts.

        • TOPHAWK1 says:

          I agree Mav. I think Scott has the best chance of backing up his tonne from last week. At home against the Lions. That should suit him nicely. Setters will be under the pump against Port but Constable could do OK down there in front of his home crowd down at the cattery.

    • ZzZCalintZzZ says:

      I like Scott and Constable a lot. Probably the shiniest golden foiled rooks we have this year

    • TRIGGA_HAPPY says:

      Got the 3 of them on deck this week Hawk

      • TOPHAWK1 says:

        I have Walsh and Scott at M7 and M8 respectively at the moment. Rocky at M6 with the big VC on him.😱 Hoping Rocky can go big today and set things up this round.💪

  98. hedski says:

    Who to field at F6 Setterfield or Parker?
    Really liked Parker's game last week.

    • ZzZCalintZzZ says:

      Rooks are fickle
      Most years a rookie who scores big but was on my bench gets put on field then scores poopy.

    • TRIGGA_HAPPY says:

      Got em both on deck this week hedo

    • TOPHAWK1 says:

      That's a bloody hard one to pick Hedski. I think Setters is slightly safer as he is a bigger and more hardened player. Parker is more flukey. He is that type that gets 87 one week and 40 the next. I reckon Setters is good for 65-75.

    • Sharkmove_King says:

      I think Setterfield easily

  99. Krups says:

    Gents. Dusty has to go before the price changes? He looks flat.

    • ZzZCalintZzZ says:

      Think on his temperament alone on Thursday night and how the actual Club is fairing with Rance (season) and now Jack gone for over a month. He needs to go. See how Rockliff backs up his 138, Bont looks fresh as fk and both Sloane / M.Crouch have 7 of their next 11 games at Adelaide Oval playing Saints and GC twice this year to boot.

      • Derek says:

        Do you honestly think Rocky will out perform Dusty this year? If so, by how much?

        Let’s say they average the same.

        History says Dusty will play more games, he has missed 1 in three years.

        Going Dusty to Rocky you save $150k, that’s about all, but waste a trade.

        Is a trade worth $150k?

        • Sharkmove_King says:

          If we are using history to suggest Martin will play more games then keeping with that its also fair to suggest Rockliff will average more than him.

          Why, because Rockliff has averaged over 110 (midfield premium level) 3 times, with a 109.6 in there too. Martin has only averaged over 110 once, with his next best being 108.

          If you want to bring age in to it, Martins not exactly a young man anymore, Dom Sheed is probably your guy. Is Martin overrated in SC? Numbers would suggest yes. Even in his record breaking 1 season he only averaged 118. Danger does that in a bad year

          • Derek says:

            Let’s say Rocky averages 109 and Dusty 105 But Dusty plays 1 more game than Rocky.

            The week rocky is out you have a bench player score 50.

            You are 21pts better off with Rocky. Immaterial

    • TOPHAWK1 says:

      Sometimes you just have to make the tough early calls. Dusty' s early form is simply not good enough. If I had him I would move him on and grab a guy that is tearing it up like a Marcus Bontempelli or Matt Crouch at a imilar price. Sometimes by waiting "another week" it actually worsens your position. Bite the bullet and fix the problems early and move forward. Just the way I see it. Good luck mate.

      • TRIGGA_HAPPY says:

        Yeah I went billings to McLean last year rd 3.

        As i have said all along back ya gut.

        Dusty may? come good but I have watched both games he does seem flat. I think someone said he hadnt laid a tackle.

        If true very un dusty like. Is he protecting an injury?

        • TOPHAWK1 says:

          That was a great call Trigga. I buggered around a lot longer with Billings last season and it cost me dearly. I have started with Billings again this year as I feel he will get more mid time and is coming into his prime. He produced 88 last week, which I felt was below par considering the opposition. If he stinks it up today, I might bite the bullet and torpedo him straight out of my team this week and plonk him on the never again list.

      • Krups says:

        Thanks mate. Wilo be moved on for sure.

    • Detek says:

      Scored 109 round 1.

      Got tagged by Greenwood in round 2 and scores a 66 and people want to dump him?

      Collingwood midfield and ruck is quality and did the job on Richmond’s mids.

      Dusty isn’t that expensive, he isn’t one of the $600k+ so his price drop isn’t going to be that bad and definitely not worth trading him for, there will be better players drop more dollars.

      To say that Bont is having a great season…..he’s played one game, against swans.

      Just chill. Hold your premiums.

      • _Kyle says:

        He was incredibly lucky to get 109 last week. Did nothing all game and i was shocked when i saw the fin score in 3 digits. Excluding dustys 1 brownlow year he has never been anything special. Yes he has good patches here and there but otherwise he is incredibly over hyped imo

        • Derek says:

          His 109 round 1 was a surprise to me, but high contested players can do that. Have a patch where they can score 30 points in 5 mins and to the naked eye you didn’t see the points.

          MCrouch a perfect example last night. Went from 68 to 90 in 5 mins

          There is the added problem with Jack Missing weeks, Dusty will play as a forward

      • TommyC99 says:

        I agree Derek. If I had the money to go to a fyfe I’d be more keen on the trade. But he still tonned up round 1 and came up against a quality tagger and a team who dominated most of the ball. Bont has shown previous years he is just as prone to a down game. Dusty should come good.

  100. Hawk131415 says:

    I need a roasting, i made a massive rookie mistake, just wasnt thinking at all! i was mucking around with players and positions etc, and made a trade and obviously cant reverse it!!!! what an idiot!!! let me have it Boys,,,,,

    • Might come good Hawk What was it?

    • TOPHAWK1 says:

      Who did you trade in and out?

    • JohnDJ59 says:

      So did you trade out a rookie, or bring in a rookie too early ? Lockhart for example.

    • Derek says:

      I posted the warning on Thursday night before the first game, said then that there is always one that gets caught. Tough luck mate

    • hedski says:

      Ouch!! Hopefully ends up a good trade Doofus!!

    • Boris_Baconbeer says:

      I don't play it, but it sounds like you should have a dream team side as well. That way you can do silly trades, lots of them through the season, and get it out of your system before doing Supercoach each week.

    • Hawk131415 says:

      Cheers boys, should of roasted me more than that haha, And yes Derek i saw that post and still did it lol, i traded Oliver to Fyfe, so not all bad, just a massive brain fade,,,

      • Hawk131415 says:

        Still cant believe i did it!!

        • Lazza says:

          Well place the big C on him Hawk, and you’ll feel a lot better… you should change your handle to SicilyHawk.. 🙂

          Depending on how Clarry goes this week, I might just follow your cue next week… but more likely it will be Martin to Fyfe

        • JohnDJ59 says:

          You will be hoping Clarry gets under 80pts again tonight, still not the worst trade you could have done.

          • Hawk131415 says:

            Yeah true John, on both points, didnt want to make the trade this week, could turn out ok?

            • JohnDJ59 says:

              Oliver will probably get between 90 – 110 and Fyfe 130+ if that happens it's probably a waste of a trade, but if Clarry scores under 90 and Fyfe goes 140+ you will be feeling a lot better with yourself, plus Clarry could drop 80k in the next six weeks and if he is back in form by then you can always trade him back in.

              • Hawk131415 says:

                Yes sir, its a waste for sure, but one ill have to live with, Clarry doesnt look 100% atm so could work out in my favour, you never know,,,,

                • JohnDJ59 says:

                  The whole side doesn't look 100%, they are a bit underdone, could take a few weeks to get it together.

                  • Hawk131415 says:

                    Tough game tonight, this will give a ggod look into how theyre travelling, if they get smacked by the cats they are in a world of hurt,,

  101. Brian says:

    Take Lloyds 124 or go with Fyfe?

    • Derek says:

      124 not enough.

      You should start the year with a VC score in mind. Then just stick to it.

      Some weeks it will work, some weeks t won’t, but it should average out over the year.

      Last year I had 139 as my cut off. My average C score last year was 131.

      Once you have your cut off you don’t need to think about it again.

      I was going to have 139 again this year, but with Grindy scoring 137 and I feel happy with that, I’m going with 137 this year

      Oliver’s 71 last week has dinted my average already this year.

    • JohnDJ59 says:

      125 is my cut off, so if it was me, go with Fyfe.

    • _Kyle says:

      Week 1 i questioned if cripps score was enough and took the punt on grundy assuming hed clean up against no dominant ruckman for the cats. Ended up costing me 50 points and a sub 2000 score. Personally id take the 124

  102. Justin says:

    Thinking of going Walsh to Sheed or Collins to Newman this week leaving me 2 trades next week to do some corrective trading.

    • Derek says:

      Walsh will make more cash than Sheed

      Collins to Newman is a no brainer, especially if you have Collins on field. Do you have that much cash lying around?

      • Justin says:

        Yeah, only just.

      • _Kyle says:

        Walsh will make more cash but sheed will outscore. Id assume someone would only trade in sheed assuming they believe he will average 100+ and not just as a stepping stone (atleast for the majority of the season)

  103. TommyC99 says:

    Should we be fielding butters or Scott? Really torn atm

  104. Locked and Loaded says:

    Big decision fellas…

    Greene > Rozee
    Walsh > Sheed pocket 5k

    Greene > Moore
    Dusty > Coniglio pocket 115k

    I know some will say hold your premos but corrective trades are a must and unfortunately dusty must go doesn’t look hungry whatsoever and with Jack out will play forward a lot more

  105. clarky says:

    So i have Hore who isnt playing. Is it worth looping duursma and Scrimshaw? I guess i'm slightly concerned Hore might be potentially a late in.

    • JohnDJ59 says:

      I'm doing just that, looping Duursma and Scrimshaw, just have to hope Hore isn't a late in.

  106. ZzZCalintZzZ says:

    Zerrett owners be scared… real scared

    • Maverick_ says:

      Jeez he looks flat. And dropped a basic overhead mark because he was scared of steele’s Contact coming… there is a definite corrective trade coming for Merrett owners!

  107. KSinny says:

    Which 2 to field out of Walsh, Butters, Scott and Constable

  108. Nice_Person says:

    Ffs Essendon

  109. EddieMac says:

    Funniest joke I heard all pre season was when somebody called Zach Merrett a fallen premo and potential keeper, pmsl. He's softer than a wet tissue

    • _Kyle says:

      Alright keyboard warrior. Jog along now…im sure you have never picked a player that has failed to fire up until 1/4 time in the second round. The whole of essendon have been bloody aweful not just zac alone.

      Lets not forget how zerrett finished off the season last year. Believe it or not it was averaging that of a premo. If you take out the first 3 rounds where he was concussed and struggled recovering he averaged 107.6. The year before he averaged 109.2 from 21 games and the year before that 111.5 from 22. So in actual fact he is a fallen premo ya flog and unlike some players he managed to string together more than 1 season of solid scores.

      About time flogs like you buggered off the jock website

    • One Touch Wonder says:

      108 isn’t good enough? He was tagged all day. Not many soft players can score 108 in a loss when tagged all day.

  110. Hawk131415 says:

    Keep it going Parker, i like this kid,,

    • _Kyle says:

      He looks like a bloody thug mate but hes going alright and is certainly keeping his owners happy. Making me proud this week since i was forced to fiend him with the potato balta being dropped

    • Hawk131415 says:

      Aaaaand hes died in the Ar$e

  111. ZzZCalintZzZ says:

    So… thinking back to that Grundy trade coaches made… who do ya think they brought in? He is on 1pt late in the first qtr lol

    • _Kyle says:

      Both nank and the hoff have started horribly. After big r1 scores. Nank ended on 78 and the hoff is looking similar. Goes to show you have to back in your premos early on(especially when those premos in question have starting prices of a whopping 700k)

  112. Pranav says:

    Loving gibbons at m11 his role seems better in round 1 and today compared to JLT

  113. The Bont says:

    What are peoples thoughts on Kade Simpson this year.

  114. Geoff says:

    Gibbons 102k and 30 points in 1 quarter slow burn they say
    Merrett 520k+ and 41 points in 2 quarters – fallen premo keeper they say

  115. Geoff says:

    Spudley Zach finally getting the accolades that he deserves 'Most over-rated player in AFL this century'

    • One Touch Wonder says:

      Can you remind me what Merrett scored today? A day where he got tagged 4 quarters.

  116. Geoff says:

    I remember somebody here warning all preseason about setterfields lack of heart in a contest, I wish that I had have listened he makes Gawn look tough

  117. AuroraBorealis?! says:

    Jeez Billings to Rockliff next week looks enticing. Am i getting sucked in? You bloody betcha

    • JohnDJ59 says:

      Billings is doing enough for me at F4, considering what we paid for him, happy with 80 – 100 scores.

      • AuroraBorealis?! says:

        He's also sitting at f4 for me John, just think that the money to be made from Rocky is hard to pass up. Can always get billings back in later in the season

        • Jason says:

          Why trade someone out then back in? No other way for you to get rocky in?

          • AuroraBorealis?! says:

            I'm not willing to sideways trade one of my mid premiums for Rocky so its basically between Heeney and Billings. I know i'll be getting Heeney back in at some stage and if Billings wont be top 6 then i wouldn't be trading him back in. That being said the only reason i'd trade Rocky in would be if i though he could go back to his 120+ avg form and be a top 10 midfielder, the opportunity to get him so cheap would be hard to pass up. If i dont think he can be in the top 10 mids then he wont be traded in, simple as that

    • Twilightingale says:

      With the inclusion of Parker and Kent, Billings playing on the wing instead of a forward. It is a little bit concerning that he's getting 25-30 disposals for sc scores in the 80's.

      Might just need to improve his efficiency??? and his scores improve to a 90-100 which would be a good result. But compared to last year, at least he's playing in the right role.

  118. Holty01 says:

    Duursma 52dt points, but only 22sc points. Disappointing

  119. Ycensor? says:

    I can't decide who's the bigger disappointment bomber zach for being terrible at footy or sooky patch for deleting every post that points out that zach is useless and overrated

  120. Michael says:

    Dusty to Rockliff easy trade

  121. Jess says:

    Walsh to gibbons
    Gives $ for
    Libba to rocky
    Thoughts?

    • Jess says:

      Would put rocky at m6

    • CaptainObvious says:

      Wait until Libba and Scott play if scott spuds it and libba goes sub 90 Maybe But its probably too late to jump on the rocky train unless you're swapping him for a Mills/Dusty/Merrett type of potatoe. If you've got him already definitely don't be concerned about wines coming in that's just bluster from people who don't have him and cant get him.

  122. BlueBaggerJosh says:

    Hello Captain Rocky !

    • JEL says:

      Had him as VC, looks like he put the cue in the rack in the last Q. I'll take my chance with Macrae

  123. _Kyle says:

    At this point rocky is just doing this to spite me had him in my side up until the last day where i traded to b crouch. The pigs on 87 at half time. Welcome back you SC beast

  124. TommyC99 says:

    What score should we be taking from duursma. My loophole option is scrimshaw so im thinking 60+

    • JohnDJ59 says:

      Same as me Tommy, I usually go with 70 as the cut off for rookies, so hoping he can get over that.

    • CaptainObvious says:

      Duursma was royally robbed by CD. 14 kicks 9 handballs, 9 marks, 3 tackles and 4 clearance s for only 73SC. WTF? If his name was merrett he would have got 130 for that game

    • Pranav says:

      I took burgess over him cause of 50 at 3QT with 70 now think I’ve made a huge mistake

  125. BlueBaggerJosh says:

    For non parker owners, must we find a way to get him in? Absolutely spewing i went with Balta instead

  126. Hawk131415 says:

    Thank you Matty Parker

    • One Touch Wonder says:

      I benched Mills, swing Rozee back and put Parker on field.

      Lycett done good. Merrett managed 108, And have VC on Dangerfield. Has been a good day so far.

  127. Pranav says:

    Merrett tons up 😯

  128. Rudy says:

    Cripps on 93 at the 3rd qtr as vc or Should I take a punt on Danger.

  129. Lazza says:

    Bombers are not blessed…

  130. MrsCripps says:

    ChampData obviously feeling sorry for spudley they gifted him 30 points for nothing.
    Potaoe Merrett FTime –
    15k, 13hb, 3mk, 4tk, 2ff, 1bh, only 9cp and 3 clearances @75%de for 109 SC in a losing team

    SuperCripps at 3/4 time
    13k,11hb, 2mk, 5tk, 5ff, 1fa, 17CP, 10clearances @ 70%de only 89 SC

  131. hedski says:

    Went with my gut and fielded Parker over Setters, happy days.
    Let's go Pussy cats 😸
    Hoping for a ripper game Neil and JohnD 👍

  132. dontblushbaby says:

    The ones who traded out Grundy – who did they go to – Lycett or Westhoff ?

  133. TooEarly says:

    4,000+ coaches bought in the HOFF this week. Ooops

  134. CaptainObvious says:

    welldone to 11.5k coaches with Lycett better ave than grundy after first 2 rounds and 260k cheaper with dpp

  135. Boris_Baconbeer says:

    That will teach Carlton for tagging in heavy rain.

  136. CaptainObvious says:

    Also a shout out to the 5,000 Phillips owners. Averaging 20 less than Grundy so far but also 430k cheaper

    • Jason says:

      Kreuzer back in the next couple weeks. I think those 5000 owners might regret their decision.

  137. The Bont says:

    Thoughts on trading Heeney to Kelly

  138. BlueBaggerJosh says:

    Thank God i traded Gawn and Grundy to Bines and Big Schlenschlong

  139. JEL says:

    What's happened to the Demons?
    My 2 guys are going well, but as a team they are getting hammered.

    • hedski says:

      Meow

    • Derek says:

      They don’t look fit enough

      Same last year. Went to Dees vs Hawks. By half time Dees were stuffed

    • CaptainObvious says:

      Probably to a money maker like Phillips or Marshall. Grundy was gifted a lot of points and so was Max neither are worth their price and crowing about a single game is very premature, remember both were atrocious for 50% of the season so far.

  140. Derek says:

    90 hitout in the Port/Carlton game. Nice work Lycett.

    Already 60 hitout to half time in Cats/Dees game. I can feel a big score from Max. 62 at half.

  141. TommyC99 says:

    Havent seen Jordon Clark tonight. Not liking his already shaky JS before tonight, and this performance certainly wont help

    • JohnDJ59 says:

      I should have had Clark on the bench instead of Duursma

      • ZzZCalintZzZ says:

        Feeling the pain too John
        And Butters on the pine 😑

        • JohnDJ59 says:

          Yes Butters on the pine with the E and not being able to use it, but at least the rookies are going gang busters and will be making lots of cash for us.

      • Beezneez says:

        Had Duursma on bench ready to loophole Hore with Clark but had to undertake before the Power game had finished and decided against it. Duursma must have got a few late touches. Always a toss up job but only 22 points difference. Also. Butters on field would have been better than Spuderfield.

        • JohnDJ59 says:

          Same Beezneez, had Duursma on the bench with the E on him, ready to loophole Hore, with either Clark or Scrimshaw, my cut off is 70 for rookies and Duursma was on 50pts at 3QT, so was line ball and I didn't go ahead with it and of cause Duursma ended up having a good last quarter and made the 70 pts cut off no worries.

    • Russty_ says:

      66 pretty serviceable score Tommy.

    • CaptainObvious says:

      I wish that I had him instead of spudderfield

  142. Finnius says:

    Imagine being one of the 40000 coaches who traded out Oliver this round

  143. Michael says:

    What a half from Whitfield

  144. dontblushbaby says:

    Have we learn't that Yeo & Cogs can't cop a tag ? I don't believe they have been in the past ? Happy to be to be proven wrong ? I don't have either ,just putting it out there

    • Russty_ says:

      Bit of a disaster for Cogs owners tonight..hope no one had the C on him.

    • CaptainObvious says:

      I agree on Cogs dbb even SOS doesn't rate him as a contested footballer and he traded for Jaksch!

    • Holty01 says:

      Hi dbb. No one really handles the tag. The ones who tend to be less affected are the big bodied types like Cripps, Fyfe etc. this was a worry I had with Cogs at the beginning of the year and the reason I didn’t start him. With no Kelly and Shiels leaving, Cogs will be the likely target for oppositions. His biggest problem will be he has never had the attention on him so he will need to learn to deal with it. He will now be everyone’s target who has a tagger as West Coast has proved he can be stopped. Good news for Cog owners though is not everyone has a tagger so while he could continue to struggle with the tag, he will still pump out those huge scores.

    • Beezneez says:

      Reason I went Cripps vc into Danger c instead of Cogs. Bloody taggers. Should be better when Kelly is back.

      • Holty01 says:

        Unfortunately for Cog owners is the tag will nearly always go to him now as the tag worked on him. Kelly although affected by the tag, can still do damage because of his running.

  145. ZzZCalintZzZ says:

    Whitfield vs West Coast

  146. Russty_ says:

    Quick question folks, if you took De Goey over T.Kelly to start, and seeing as how De Goey depends on bags of goals for his score, would you trade him out now for Kelly or hold? Cheers.

    • Holty01 says:

      I’m considering dropping Heeney for him. Will be the only trade I’ll have made this season

      • Russty_ says:

        Problem is Holty, I still have Hore and Balta to deal with, Kelly's such a jet though.

        • ZzZCalintZzZ says:

          Yeah rookies very important. Balta might not be a problem anymore though. If selected he will have a spot for a month if he playas well though

        • Beezneez says:

          I've been okay using Hore as a loophole between Duursma an Clark but of course may not always be possible. Balta could be used the same until a more promising alternative appears (assuming you have Parker and Drew).

      • Beezneez says:

        I absolutely hate sideways trading but this is one I'm definitely contemplating. So wanted Kelly in my original team at f4 but couldn't afford once I went with Grawndy so went with Heeney and Dunkley.

    • Derek says:

      Kelly is top 6 forward. Some stage you get him

    • CaptainObvious says:

      I'd probaly smack against a wall and then flagellate myself with a barbed wire cat-o-nine tails for getting DeGoey

  147. ZzZCalintZzZ says:

    What a mixed bag this round has been premo wise.

    Nank 78
    Simpson 72
    Heeney 67
    Martin 66
    Sidebottom 66
    Westhoff 47

    Late in the 3rd

    Hurn 56
    Coniglio 41
    Yeo 38

  148. hedski says:

    Tomahawk you fn legend.
    Nice goal Clarky

  149. AuroraBorealis?! says:

    Jeez you'd think Constable deserves at least a 90, 31 disposals, 13 CP and a goal. Fair enough only going at 58% but still

  150. ZzZCalintZzZ says:

    need Fyfe to score 170 as my captain to save my score lol. Currently looking like 2k be my max score if Fyfe puts in a moderate 120

    • BlueBaggerJosh says:

      a fyfe double ton would send me into the 2400-2500's, imagine that ! With his record against the Suns i wouldn't rule it out

    • Russty_ says:

      Sounds like you've had a bit of a rough week mate, Fyfe could go close to that if he doesn't sit on the bench for extended minutes like he did last week.

      • ZzZCalintZzZ says:

        Have had half my rookies who scored the sub 60's on field. Always hurts the total when miss the likes of Butters and drrrrsma

    • _Kyle says:

      Ouch sounding a lot like last round for me mate. Finished 1988. I feel the pain lol

  151. BlueBaggerJosh says:

    Liberatore taking Constable's spot on field, not sure if it is worth it at all. Might downgrade Libba to Gibbons next week depending on tomorrows performance and upgrade Hanley to Newman or Harris Andrews.

    • CaptainObvious says:

      Andrews is a consistent keeper Newman is a bust

    • Russty_ says:

      Reckon Gibbons will still drop some smelly turds Josh, I punted him for Constable before round 1 and happy I did.
      Libba should deliver better scores soon I reckon, got plenty of it last week, just didn't score that well.

  152. Maverick_ says:

    Mid round wrap up
    -Nice bounce back from danger, brayshaw, Gawn & Oliver.
    -Heeney to kelly is becoming more enticing.
    -I’m Still not getting sucked into sheed, Rockliff or Newman after 2 looks.
    -Coniglio no longer a must after treloar & brayshaw reedemed themselves.

    A much better round 2 than my round 1

  153. Ben says:

    Petracca would have to be the most overrated player in the game. Gets talked about like he's some beast

  154. Cats just too good for the dees. They make a habit of thrashing us at the cattery. Cats have a very balanced team now with 3 mighty recruits adding to some great leaders.i think they will go deep. Good to see Gawn Clarry and Gus on top again ,.Sad to say but our captain may have to go dropping chest marks last week and another miserable day today. Luckily for Jones ,there's no one better. sink a few Hedski BB

  155. _Kyle says:

    Cogs may well be a nice early upgrade. Depending on how billings goes in the next few weeks could easily go to him

  156. Twilightingale says:

    Story of round 2, if you pick a genuine premium, do not trade them.

    Out: Grundy or Gawn
    In: Westhoff

    Out: Oliver or Merrett
    In: Coniglio

    If anyone did those trades, I can imagine they wouldn't be too happy right now, down a trade and loosing points. It's not afl fantasy with unlimited trades. Trades are valuable.

    With Heeney or Dusty, nothing has changed in my opinion that Heeney won't average around 95 and Dusty won't average around 105, trading to a player who scored huge the week before would just be chasing last weeks points. Players past scores are irrelevant for your team, the average from the time you trade them in to the end of season / time you trade them out is all that matters.

    • CaptainObvious says:

      Merrett is a downhill skier with a heart as big as a fleas eyeball and will burn every coach that touches him. Oliver has talent and heart and should never have been traded out. Grundy and Gawn are both massively overpriced and shouldn't have been in anyone's starting team but if you have them it was foolish to trade them out.

    • Derek says:

      A few people learning the hard way

      The 3 that will be all the talk this week will be the 3 midfield midpricers. BCrouch, Rocky and Sheed. All tonned up again this week.

      I’m sure there will be people who trade a premium, Like Dusty, to one of these 3.

      Rocky will be effected by Wines coming back, Sheed will be against Gaff. Don’t know how much they will get effected but they will, enough to not make them top 8 mids. We are all just waiting for Brad’s next injury.

      Well done to those who started with them, but think long and hard about trading them in.

      • Russty_ says:

        I was contemplating Brayshaw to Rocky after this week if Brayshaw stunk it Derek, but nah I'll hang onto Angus I reckon, Rocky went missing in the second half, Angus copped a big corky and still went on like a champ.

      • Twilightingale says:

        All 3 would be risky to trade in this week. Potential to burn 2 trades, 1 to trade them in, 1 to trade them out.
        Couldn't recommend downgrading a premium to trade 1 of them in.

        In saying that would love to trade Toby Greene to one of them though if he doesn't return next week but unfortunately don't have a m/f swing. Will be watching Worpel and McCarthy closely tomorrow for a potential upgrade or downgrade.

        • Derek says:

          Worry about the rookies first. Do you have all the good ones, including Moore or Rozee for DPP?

          Even if you go Greene to a rookie and bank the cash is better than going a mid price sideways to another mid price

          pick your keepers off when they drop in price

  157. TRIGGA_HAPPY says:

    Another one of the 7

    Luv ya work Whitfield!

    Doll house looks to have found that zest for the game again. Might have to have a closer look at him next week. 🤔

  158. AuroraBorealis?! says:

    What score is everyone looking at this week? Provided my last three dont sh*t the bed entirely i should just squeeze in over 2300

  159. Northerner says:

    Boak turning out to be my pod of the season. Heeney is the only one that is of concern. Horse paying him forward. Could be straight swap to Kelly this week. Also looking at Balta. Big decision to dump him for Parker if Balta is named. Other than that the SuperCoach gods have been kind.

    2300 on the cards.

  160. JohnDJ59 says:

    Already know what trades I will be doing next week. Mills > Moore and Heeney > Rozee. I will then have every rookie that I want in my team for max cash generation and a nice stash of cash for the upgrades as they present themselves. I will be short on premos for a while having nine on field rookies, but I'm prepared to take the hit of lower points for the cash I should generate with my playing rookies.

    • Jason says:

      Trades are too valuable. If you have all the other good rookies I wouldn’t worry. I don’t think rozee or Moore are must haves.

    • I tend to agree with you john.This gives you great swing and a bank and possibly few future trades.Its a 2 trade gamble with good odds, Both Rozee and Moore look good plus will make money good luck bud cause I am thinking the same I have thought about Hore Butters and Setterfield but pending todays games may go Hore to Moore and Libba to Rozee NDD

      • JohnDJ59 says:

        Hi Neil, yes I like the idea of the swing, even though I probably won't use it, it will be there if I need it. I was only doing the Mills > Moore trade at first, but after Heeney's last game and Rozee playing well in the last two, decided to do that one as well. I will be light on and expect to lose most of my games for the first five weeks, but I'm planning for the long term.

    • Holty01 says:

      Hi John, although I understand you getting rid of Mills and Heeney, I just don’t like the fact you are replacing your premo with a rookie. Can you replace him with a premo?

      • JohnDJ59 says:

        Hi Holty, yes I could do one down one up, so Mills > Moore and Heeney > Kelly or Mills > Lloyd and Heeney > Rozee. If I did it that way I would be gaining up to 40pts a week more, only it would leave me a lot less in the bank and one less rookie earning cash for me. So I have to think what is more important points or cash generation.

        • DavidC says:

          My first reaction was to rage trade Heeney to either Kelly or Worpel (if he has another good game) but now I am having second thoughts. I'm thinking Sydney's best chance of turning their season around is to give more midfield time to Heeney and Mills. They are 0-2 and have to shake things up from here. So I am going to hold fire on Heeney for now. Good luck with whatever you decide to do. We'll all know in 6 weeks time what was the right thing to do.

          • JohnDJ59 says:

            Hi David, yes I am starting to wonder if trading out Heeney is the right thing to do, I didn't mind his first game, but last night was terrible, most of my rookies scored better, but trades are very valuable and I have to think will Heeney be a top eight fwd by the end of the year, at the moment no, but that could change.

            • Detek says:

              Mills to either Moore or Rozee is good. Both have DPP.

              I am really impressed by Rozee. He has looked the best of this years rookies. Quickly becoming one of my favourite players.

              He is probably the only rookie I don’t have, but don’t have cash to get him.

            • Derek says:

              Heeney is a gun

              • JohnDJ59 says:

                Yes Heeney is a gun Derek, but not right at this moment, happy to trade him out for the cash generation Rozee will get me and if Heeney is going well just before the byes and I have a spare space in my fwd line I will consider getting him back in.

  161. Shaun says:

    What to with mills. Tade him or hope he gets more mid field time. I think he has to go but to who.

    • Rick says:

      Get rid of him. Overrated 'gunna'

    • Maverick_ says:

      I'm assuming you've started with z.williams and b.smith? but if not they look good and be my picks

      • Derek says:

        He should go. Not getting the midfield time.

        Grundy was out on Friday and the had him playing as a tall defender

        Williams, Smith or Milera are all good picks, but get your rookies right first, even if you go Mills down to rookie and bank the cash

        Laird, Simpson and co will be cheap soon

  162. Doc says:

    Didn't watch the game, what happened with Cogs? Was looking at 2300+ before he decided to take an almighty steaming dump on my team.
    Oliver and the Melbourne crew mostly redeemed themselves this week but Heeney poor two weeks in a row, starting up forward a lot, should we be concerned that this might keep happening?

    • dontblushbaby says:

      Cogs was tagged by Hutchings who scored 80 pts

      • Derek says:

        Did a good job and eagles won.

        More teams will tag Cogs.

        • Doc says:

          Definitely won't surprise me, but I sure hope not. Hutchings one of the top taggers, hopefully less-talented taggers will impact him a lot less. Hopefully J. Kelly takes some of the tagging when he's back. Cheers.

  163. Lazza says:

    Late out at North.. don’t know who.. but Tarryn Thomas is in ..

  164. dontblushbaby says:

    Someone mentioned earlier in the year that Jade Gresham might be break out player to look at ,scores of 86 ,121 so far , could he be a top 8 FWD in a team that is 2 from 2 but predicted to finish bottom 4 , awkwardly priced @ 439k, thoughts anyone ?

  165. Holty01 says:

    Oh snap. S Martin starting on the bench. Did not see that one coming

  166. Holty01 says:

    Although happy with my Hurn, Williams and Smith picks to begin the season, my other option I considered was Lloyd, Andrews and Moore. I went with the Hurn option as I thought the backline with Moore at D3 just didnt look right. Although Lloyd has started the season well, he isn’t the one I regret not starting, it is Andrews I regret. As Crouching would say “he good boy, he gun”. Just does everything you need in SuperCoach.

    • JohnDJ59 says:

      I know how you feel Holty, I had various combinations for most lines and I fear I picked the worst of them for each line. My defence had Lloyd, Williams, B.Smith, 3rookies for most of the preseason, then I decided I only wanted two rookies on the field, so I changed it to Simmo, Mills, Williams, B.Smith, 2 rookies. I think I stuffed up badly. I will be trading Mills out next week and Simmo is on notice.

    • Maverick_ says:

      64pts at 3QT holty from 100% TOG.

      • Holty01 says:

        well maybe I made the right decision. But I see him pumping out some big scores this year

  167. hedski says:

    Parker on field over Setters √
    Scott on field over Butters ×

  168. Holty01 says:

    Constable on bench and Scott onfield. Oops

  169. Holty01 says:

    hi All. Seems sc scores broke down towards end of 3rd quarter of bris vs nth. It seems about 800+ points still need to be allocated if my maths are right. So if I’m correct, good news for Scott owners as his score may improve a bit but for Neale owners, could be in for a major surprise as his last 5-10min of the game was huge.
    Here’s hoping.

    • _Kyle says:

      Assuming once the issue is fixed the players will be given their point allocations like in any other game based off their stats. Not too worried about the site breakdown

  170. TOPHAWK1 says:

    What a joke this AFL stats centre is. Have had virtually bugger all live SC scores all day. What a farce. They better sort this thing out and FAST. 😡😡

    • Holty01 says:

      yeah. You would be pretty upset having the vc on someone like Neale, seeing the final score and making the call for Fyfe as C only to find out later that Neale finished with 140(just guessing) after updating

  171. Rick Grimes says:

    Is Neale's score correct. 102 for 40+ posessions. Wtf?

  172. _Kyle says:

    What a nightmare for the hawks. Shields and silk both off with injuries and the dogs just run over them

  173. Holty01 says:

    lol. I wonder if all those coaches are still wanting to trade Liba?

  174. GloryDays94 says:

    Should I trade Mundy? 73 last week and won't even go past 70 this week…. pathetic for a premo

  175. ZzZCalintZzZ says:

    2172 last week, looking at 2050 this week. Going to my local pub for 10 bowls of wedges now

  176. Sicily might be a wombat but that last free at a crucial time — 'if you dont mind umpire'

    • _Kyle says:

      Some of the umpiring was bloody horendous mate. Hawks were never winning that 2 men down and the umps having money on the dogs

  177. _Kyle says:

    What are people looking at scoring? Did a little quick maths pre scaling and im sitting at 2304

  178. ZzZCalintZzZ says:

    Very silent community 7 bowls of wedges down 3 to go

  179. Westy says:

    Contemplating the following changes:
    Out – Hore, Heeney
    In – Rockliff, Worpel

  180. TRIGGA_HAPPY says:

    Why did rocky only score 27 points after half time?

    • Russty_ says:

      He got tagged and it started raining Trigg…or maybe he's just a lazy prick. 😉

      • TRIGGA_HAPPY says:

        Tell you one that has flown under the radar is Hill.
        he has taken Neale's spot in the midfield having over 60 disposals first two weeks, most of them kicks and laid a dozen tackles.

        being pure mid got breakout written all over his new role.

  181. Ando says:

    Get rid of Dusty or Dunkley first? Thinking Dunkley because The Dogs have so many decent MID players i.e. Macrae, Libba, Bont, Wallis, McLean, and Daniel who all sahre around the possies.

    Thoughts?

  182. BVB21 says:

    I think people shouldn’t trade Heeney and dusty

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