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PODCAST | Do. Not. Trade.

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Round one has been and gone and what a round it was. It’s BACK, baby!

After being belted on the Supercoach front, Patch made the trek across the mountains to watch Essendon slay the Giants and was left enraged by the apathetic, garbage, awful performance his side dished up, so planned to stay in Sydney to shout at random people until he felt better. Some say he’s still there.

So, Damo and Lek took to the airwaves to talk some sense in the face of thousands of people rage trading premiums options like Brodie Grundy, Max Gawn and Clayton Oliver. Do not do it. Lek and Damo explain why, while also piling abuse on Patch, which in a totally non-biased similie is kind of like kicking an adorable puppy while it’s down.

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Patch

Don't get me wrong, I say this with love but I hate you both.

JR_Damo

<3

Lekdog

<3

Edd

Will Jock see a return to the podcasts?

Russty_

Jock's gone mate, just think of him as the spiritual leader of the operation, and Lek, Patch, Damo, Barron, Kev and co are his loyal Angels.

Edd

I know that Jock's gone. But the fella holds a deep place in everyone's hearts and I was wondering if he will ever make a return

Lekdog

Won't be seeing him around the Supercoach traps I don't think mate, you may see him down at the pub in Bonbeach though

Russty_

If you trade after the 1st week, or drink and drive, or Barrack for Essendon or St-Kilda, or pick Jordan De Goey like I did….you're a bloody idiot or something.
Don't shout at random Junkies Patch, they may inject you with angel dust or some such druggy thing.

Lekdog

Agreed

jzzz

how much is a trade worth 100 – 150 k ?
if this helps you upgrade in another line to a premo is it not worth a thought?
if one of your premo ruckmen drops the 100-150k then u trade them back in

Lekdog

Using two trades on one guy, no thanks

P.J

last year i traded out grundy after R2 , he went on to be the top scorer , lesson learned ..

Lekdog

I traded Menegola last year after round 2…

Sam

The reason Bewley isn't playing is because the Dockers already have 3 wingers in their side. Brad hill, Darcy Tucker and Ed Langdon all play wing. You then have Travis Colyer who has just come in and he either plays on the wing or at half-forward.

BoltonsBlues

I for one must thank Ross the Boss and or Bewley for not playing this week, was the only reason Scott was in my team 😀

Lekdog

Thank you for the ton Ross!

JR_Damo

You are absolutely correct mate. Forgot to mention that! Cheers for listening

Fil

Dies anyone out there think ruck scores will be affected by the new rules? Is it a serious option to free up grundy and gawn and reinvest the extra 300k or so into some other premium that will average triple digits?

Are the premium rucks this year going to average 80s 90s because if the new rules?

Northerner

No. Don’t trade. Stoppages were down, but not due to general play. Simply the lowest goals kicked in an opening round for ages. Grundy had a Clanger game and got on the wrong side of the umpires. He’s fine. Gawn was targeted. Both unusual.

Valens_FC

Brenton Speed (who I think has half a clue) says the kick-in rule is directly responsible for low goal scoring, all but ending the possibility of the "7-point play" where failed kick in results in a goal the other way. If this holds true then may not be a one-off. See http://bit.ly/2TVdUbq

Lekdog

Good read

joe

You can't do it on the basis of one round, where Grundy came up against a pretty handy midfield and Gawn against the man who was his kryptonite last year.

It might have been a mistake to pick them, but it would be a disaster to trade them out now.

Lekdog

Cannot trade them. They will be two of the top three ruckmen at the end of the year at the very least (barring injury).

joe

Indeed, as noted in the podcast, if Grundy had not given away five free kicks and not missed those easy shots at goal, his score would have been over 130.

Northerner

One factor of rule changes I have been considering and keen to watch for:

The big blokes, rucks, roaming half forwards etc. tend to get points from contested marks from kick outs. That traditional long kick outside the 50 along the boundary to a pack. A couple of those contested marks, particularly if it’s a mark from an opposition kick are big points. I do think the new kick in rule has opened the game up and we are going to see less of those. This will have an impact on the Rucks and players like Darling.

We might see last year’s 135 for top ruck be 125 this year. Given Grawndy are head and shoulders above the rest, don’t think it would have changed my decision to start them.

Lekdog

Agreed, you've still picked the best two ruckmen regardless of whether overall scoring is down.

Holty01

Nice work lads

Lekdog

Cheers mate

Westy

Will monitor Collins and Burgess closely next week to see whether they need replacing in favour of a better performing rookie or rookies.

Currently have Duursma on the mid bench – could look at moving him to the backline and bringing Drew into the mids, though Drew appears to be OK at F5 or F6.

But so many juicy midpricers. Will only consider if someone goes down with an injury as I don't have the money to bring one in without sideways or downwards trading (which isn't going to happen).

TheScacman

Would be keeping Drew in the forwards due to the lack of scoring power from the current crop of forward rookies. Constable, scott, Butters and co much more likely to give you that 70-80+ output than Balta, Petrucelle and even Parker (this week being the exception).

Nice_Person

Rule change this, rule change that….
It's been 1 week everyone. Like it's been pointed out already both Grundy and gawn didn't set the house on fire Rd 1 last year. Just chill

Lekdog

Yep, they are the two best ruckmen in the game, trading them would be a bad decision.

Clarkeyy23

That’s it Grundy and Gawn out for Zac Clark and Archie Smith

Northerner

Yep. Bruin manoeuvre!

The Ranger

No need for the B there Northerner. Ruin manouevre.

Lekdog

What a genius that man is

Clarkeyy23

What can I say I’m a jokester

Michael Rogers

Go ahead and trade boys, you'll be sorry at the end of the year when injuries kick in like every other year. Stars are booked in for surgery early and you'll have no trades left when SC finals are on. Good luck

Rick Grimes

Sometimes hardest thing in this game is to do nothing. I will be wearing oven mits 24/7 until the round is over to avoid any hapless tinkering.

Russty_

Hehe, can't believe people are trading Oliver and Brayshaw out, let alone Grundy and Gawn.

Rick Grimes

It's insane to even consider. All premos will throw in a spud, now and again. Clarry scored 123, 146 and 75 first 3 rounds of 2018. Did anyone (sane) drop him for round 4? Of course not. I expect a big response from Melbourne this weekend.

NoLanguage96

I'll be tipping Melbourne to get the job done in Geelong

GloryDays94

Won't happen 😂

Maverick_

Most traded in after Rd1:
Newman 7.2%
Rocky 6.8%
Sheed 4.8%
Westhoff 4.7%
Worpel 3.4%

talk about point chasing!

Lekdog

NO TINKERING

neil demons delight

No trades this week but WILKE will be looked at Lek did you select Darrah ? and maybe either ST, Russty or yourself can tell me who is the better rookie Great stuff to start the year boys NDD

Russty_

Wilkie less clangers Neil, check the Rookie thread from Barron, that'll help answer your question 🙂

Simo

One of them will prob be dropped this week with Brown back from suspension

Russty_

Saw this in the fox sports team tips today Neil…..
Team tips: As aforementioned, Darcy Parish should come straight into the side. And if coach John Worsfold wants to make a big statement it’s likely a senior player like Mark Baguley will face the axe. Furthermore, if Worsfold wants to make wholesale change, Tom Jok and Brandon Zerk-Thatcher could also be considered. Nathan Brown (suspended) should come straight back into the Saints’ starting line up, most likely at the expense of Darragh Joyce.

Lekdog

Yeah I backed my fave Saints player Darragh, chance he goes out for Brown…I'm hoping he doesn't. I really like him as a player.

Peter56

I am considering a trade, Collins to Parker with Moore swing back to defence, Dew says that he is going to be a lock down defender so really won't score heaps, this leaves me 2 free trades next week and a bit of extra cash.

Rick Grimes

There's an argument to make this trade. I can't see Collins averaging enough to be a viable cash cow.

Northerner

Agree. Collins to Parker one week early is something I’d support if you want to leave flex for next round. I don’t have Collins or Parker. I’m looking at Gibbons to Parker and/or Burgess to Wilkie/Darragh as options next week.

Lazza

Gibbons BE for R2 is -14.. he won’t go backwards… Collins BE is +49.

DavidC

I'm considering Gibbons to Parker for next week but will probably hold fire. Parker didn't score too good in JLT so could be a wasted trade. Gibbons just needs a few more midfield minutes or a bag of goals and his price jumps. Just got to pick the right moment when he peaks in value. Probably still be on my bench in R23.

Lekdog

My question is, why not wait another week to do this so you know for sure which rookie to bring in?

Peter56

Normally I don't trade this round but I have all the other rookies and I have this horrible feeling that next week I am going to worried about players other than rookies and cash generation, so want to have two trades free next week.
By the way I also have Balta luckily on the bench but I saw enough in him that I think he will improve but I just don't see it in Collins.

Hawk131415

I'd do the trade Pete, i think collins is a poor choice, Its your team, your game, do what your gut tells you,,

TommyC99

I guess it gives him the option of making another 2 trades if he feels the need to

Hawk131415

Spot on, what if you need 3 next week? it happens,

DavidC

How about Salem or Newman? I might consider one of those if they back up again in R2. They were certainly playing the right role for SC.

TheScacman

Salem spent some serious minutes behind the ball with Jordan Lewis out, which probably put an extra 15+ points on his score than you'd be expecting most weeks. If you're thinking of bringing him in, ask yourself whether he's going to get the same opportunities to get the rebound/loose touches most weeks. If the answer is yes, Salem is viable. Who comes out for Newman? If its a premo, i'd say stay clear, if its a rookie, ask if that cash would be better spent in a couple of weeks when you can go to a fallen premium

kinglear009

Very wise and ordered process – trades must be considered over several domains.

NoLanguage96

I picked Salem up as a POD John and obviously very happy with his game on the weekend. In saying that, it wouldnt surprise me at all if Lewis back in will affect his scoring, I just hope its only by 10 or so points a game. At 445k I'd be rapt with a 100 average. He hates handballing and is such a weapon of a kick his game is made for SC!

Spifflicator

Cash burning a massive hole in my pocket, can do Walsh to Rockliff (M6) or Moore to Worpel (F4) in just 1 trade. Plus Rocky a pretty handy VC option v the Blues this week.

Team looks so much better with Rocky at M6……..

TelescopicCox

I'd give it a week. What if Walsh pulls out a 100 this week and Rocky ends up tagging Cripps (wouldn't put it past Ken).

Valens_FC

Don't mind the idea of taking Walsh on given his 73% ownership and the fact he may not necessarily be the greatest cash generator. If he's in your team as a last upgrade or even long-term M9, then Rocky can potentially be thought of in the same light. Rocky has to be unlikely to play 22 games given he hasn't done it since 2012 so not sure he can be thought of as ending in the top 8, but if you hold him until the end of the season and he can stay fit until you've done your other upgrades this looks a strong move.
Moore I think most people have him so he can swing with Burgess… think this cover still worth something as rookies in FWD and DEF likely to get dropped at some point over the next few weeks.

Lekdog

Give it a week mate

Rick Grimes

Didn't get the mid time we expected. Think he's still a viable pick. Wait Bother week and reassess.

Sharkmove_King

I'm trading in Parker & Wilkie this week so that I can also get Joyce next week…..Wait. St.Kilda play Gold Coast every week this year, right?

Teddy021

The definition of shark moves lol

Brn

If i had the cash, would it be a good move to trade libba to sheed/rockliff?

Brn

If so which one out of sheed/rocky? Would be leaning towards sheed

Holty01

I wouldn’t personally. Libba had a really good game on the weekend and I’m surprised he didn’t score better. Give it another week. Also remember Gaff returns next week and Rocky has been injury prone. Seems to be a wasted trade imo.

Russty_

I'd give Libba a chance Brn…he tonned up twice in the JLT, I reckon he's a good pick.
If Sheed pumps out another big one though…could be hard to resist.
See what happens this week.

TheScacman

Sheed is either going to be the ultimate breakout man and average around 100 for the year, which will be a masterstroke for those who have gotten on him early or had him from the get-go, or be this year's burn man, with his numbers falling when Gaff comes back into that midfield. Wait a couple of weeks – libba likely to rebound

Northerner

Dom Priddis will outscore Gaff this year. He’ll go 110+ IMO which would be a win for that price. Watch Simmo’s post match. He’s asked about Sheed’s form and his comment was Sheed’s been operating at that level for a while now, he’s fixed his issues ( defensive running). It’s Redden who is giving up his points from last year for Sheed. Gaff will have no impact.

NoLanguage96

I've got Libba too Brn and I would stick fat with him. Could have easily tonned up

Lekdog

Give it a week

JR_Damo

Sorry about my mic quality this week, community! My mic had only moved like 3cm back from where it was last week but obviously that made it just that little too far away from my mouth hole. Thanks for listening and remember:

Do not trade after round 1!!

Russty_

Sounded fine to me Damo, thanks for the pod.

Rick Grimes

No problem at my end. Thanks for the effort.

NoLanguage96

Hey Community, what a rollercoaster of a R1!

Wins – Salem as a POD, Cripps VC, Neale, Dusty (laziest 109 I've ever seen), not starting Grundy, having Scott, Drew and seemingly all the right rooks on field

Losses – Gawn, no Rocky/Sheed and choosing Oliver ahead of Fyfe

I'll take a 2184 as it seems like above par for a horror week. Anyone else wanna share their ups and downs?

Mystic_Mac

Nice one!

Happy with the Andrews, Sloane and Fyfe picks. Downfalls were Yeo, Brayshaw and Darling, however I'm backing them in to bounce back this week.

2244 this week, so can't complain.

ZzZCalintZzZ

Avoided loss of points in a very strange way
I had Sloane and Zerrett for 3 weeks before round 1 but changed them both to Fyfe and Rockliff, gained 63pts there.
No Cogs.
Have Grundy Gawn in their respective round 1 shockers if you call it that.
Fielded Balta over Parker

Have a solid midfield though in Macrae, Cripps, Fyfe, Martin, MCrouch, Rockliff who all helped me to a solid 2172 pretty happy about it

NoLanguage96

Nice mate great job. That's a juicy midfield!

NoLanguage96

Andrews is a great pick. Should average 105.

Nice_Person

Thats a huge average

Russty_

Andrews could be a top 6 defender this year easy, he's still young, and plays a key defender role, but manages a way to score well from what he does every week. I wouldn't write him off as possibly being one of the best this year.

DavidC

Great score you must be in the top 2000 with that.

King Rooboy

2304 ranked 152 best start ever only stuff ups whereCo Collins on the field and didn’t take Cripps Vc score and left Dangerfield as captain

NoLanguage96

Yeah I'm glad I took Cripps VC score. Think 125 and above is probably worth taking most cases

The Ranger

Nice one Rooboy! Great start!

Russty_

70 less terrible than me John, rough start to the year for a few of us, but I also feel we'll bounce back quick, because we had good teams who underperformed round 1.

Shake_n_bake

Collins owners, news today he might not get up this week. Concussion.

Ja191

Atleast we can loop him

Mongrel Punt

Pretty happy with my team 2171 first round was far better than i expected. But i have one burning question…
Is it better for me to dump Gibbons and trade to Constable or is the profit made not worth burning a trade. Very happy with my rookies otherwise but I missed the boat on Constable.
If any maths boffins can help it would be greatly appreciated
Thanks again guys for this fantastic community

ZzZCalintZzZ

Anylise this after round 2. What if Gibbons scores 65 and Constable scores 40… don't think it would be worth a trade if that happened.

Mongrel Punt

I definitely was going to wait a week for the exact reason you stated. The real question is. Is the expected increase in $$$ worth a trade. Conventional wisdom says that a trade is worth $150k.

ZzZCalintZzZ

probably not worth a trade unless Constable will generate $150k more after round 7-8 like you said

Mongrel Punt

Cheers Zzz you have confirmed my own thoughts. Just have to accept he's one that got away but their will be plenty more coming up. I'm sure .
Good luck with your team

Moustachio

The thing is, there are only a finite number of decent cash generators available. If you don't spend a few trades early you might not make bank later in the year.

Also, trades are worth $0, but when you run out they are worth $Infinity.

So trade early, trade often, and don't run out.

Derek

Gibbons JS is better than Constable

There won’t be much difference in cash increase, so unless you have to field on of them, they are both similar bench cash cows

Maverick_

I will not be getting sucked in to rocky & sheed.
My midfield premiums are going to avg 105 minimum
Treloar Oliver Cripps m.crouch brayshaw and libba will be vital to cash generation he was fantastic v Sydney the scores will come. Rocky is injury prone & when Ollie returns may be shafted fwd like 2018 & sheed May be able to go a 100 avg for the year but not worth a trade from any of my current mids.. I’m going to hold strong & resist no matter what the two pump out this weekend! If anything id prefer to go brayshaw to cogs than down to a rocky/sheed if angus under performs.

Just my 2cents community:)

ZzZCalintZzZ

Agree you either started with Rockliff or you didn't. He is not a guy you trade into your team unless it's from a rookie and if Rockliff is still killing it before Ports Bye round.

ZzZCalintZzZ

I think Rockliff will be a 102-107 player this year purely because last year he did not fit in with Ports huge amount of mid type players. And this year finally had a full pre season. Sure his soft tissue history is a concern but gotta be ballsy in supercoach

Hawk131415

Agree Mav, Wait and see when Wines and Gaff are back, theyll drop for sure, Buuuuuuuuurn,,,,,

Scouser

I'm not so sure I agree with the shoal on Sheed, looked very similar in JLT as Macrae did in his breakout year AND Gaff played JLT2 also which didnt seem to impact either of them score wise if I remember rightly.

The only reason I didnt back him in was his ownership which was at around 14% amd so minimal damage to overall rankings if he blew up (have to say I may be regretting it more if he turns it on again in r2 and Oliver spews one up again!)

TheWizardOfOzz

Hey Community,
I just want to ask if i've cooked it with my Mundy selection at f3? I'm happy to hold but just want to know what you guys think.
Also if collins gets up, do you reckon he can turn it around?

Shake_n_bake

I have Mundy aswell and thought he was better than his 72. So thats a worry. If he shits the bed again against Gold C he will become Kelly.

Derek

I have Mundy as well, thought he should have done better.

The good part was he was pure midfield.

He had the lowest TOG of anyone. Only 69%. So 72 from 69% was ok.

Not sure why his TOG was so low, maybe the speed of game, maybe the game was over early and they rested him or maybe he doesn’t ‘rest’ firward, he just comes off.

If he plays more minutes next week we should be ok.

Shake_n_bake

Came off for Fyfe at the 10min mark of the last qtr didn’t see him after that.

Derek

That was the time where Walters was kicking two junk time goals allowing you to beat me in draft by 6pts.

I figured that, game was over and they rested the old bloke

Scouser

I've got him too Wiz and not that concerned…yet!

Worst case he under performs again r2 and you can trade him to pretty much anyone in the fwds (assuming you have Heeney & Danger), the least of my concerns atm!

Lekdog

Mundy's lowest first round score ever, wait a week.

nankthetank

G'day wiz, that's disappointing from Mundy isn't it, I had him in and out all pre season so glad I didn't end up with him! Don't waste your trades but it was a poor score so just hope he turns it around soon.
As for Collins, I'd hold because his poor round 1 score will only affect his breakeven for 1 week, compared to 2 weeks if it was round 2 or 3 weeks if it was round three. If he gets up hold him cos if he bangs out a 100 then you'll be back on track

Teddy021

Excellent as always lads!

Anyone trading after Round 1 is crazy. This week is about rookie management and having the best of what you have on field. Burning trades before even the guaranteed price increases is a sure way to ruin your season.

For those with Moore/Burgess, consider swinging Moore down back to bench Collins for example. And have another scoring forward rook take the field (putrecelle/Parker or who ever you had benched).

Derek

If Collins doesn’t play because of concussion, he is the perfect donut loophole because Suns are last game of the round.

With DPP swings you can make sure you get a double chance with rookie scores this week

Scouser

Great comments Teddy and as the boys called on their excellent breakdown of a podcast r1 scores only count in rolling averages for 1 week not 3 so not a disaster if you missed the r1 or even r2 boats

paul

what do you Thing of Libba to Rockliff

OldOcker

Just do it

Rick Grimes

Chasing last week's points. Got to ask yourself, is he a top 8 mid? Plus he will miss games. Plus Wines must have some impact. If you started him, kudos. Otherwise I'd leave alone.

Rick Grimes

Plus, you picked Libba as a stepping stone, which is what Rocky likely is as well. Trades are too valuable.

DavidC

I think if you didn't start Rocky (I did) then you just have to observe for now. But if he keeps this up you are going to have to get him eventually.

Derek

Libba is a good pick. He will score better than his price and make good cash.

If Rocky scores around 100 for the next 6 weeks he will increase about $95-$105k

If Libby scores 80 for the next 6 weeks he will also make about $95k

So except for the points difference of 20 per week, you will be able to make the same trade anytime, as their prices will increase at similar pace.

Even if you think Rocky is a keeper, you won’t be costing you anything to get him later. Unless he averages 130+

Depends on what you are doing with the extra $106k.

Lekdog

Wait a week

Peter

Hey guys i have $450 and under to spend for a defender pull the trigger with Newman?

Benjiherb

Who you trading out ?.

Peter

Hore Joyce or Wilkie

Benjiherb

Yeah Pete wait till after nwlext week newman could score a 50 etc . I would take Harris Andrews over newman anyway but his a extra 30k If you had it .

Peter

Thanks Benjiherb i will wait and see if newmans role changes might have to find a way to fit Andrews in

Lekdog

Wait a week!

Holty01

For all those thinking about trading in Rocky, think this.
Why didn’t you start him in the first place? The reasons you had not to start him have not changed.

Brn

Jlt wad tempting, scoring great in the first match gave me more confidence he is back. How many great weeks does he have to have before he is 'must have'. People are just after an edge – a cheap way to get ahead of the competition. The biggest risk in supercoach is not taking a risk imo

Holty01

This is true but my question was why didn’t people start him? Not reasons to bring him in. This isn’t the first time he has pumped out a huge score so this is nothing new. Rocky was cheap and in form so what were the reasons you did not start him?

Russty_

Well he did score that 49 before he got the 170…and his durability concerns me, trying to minimize injury trades this year I guess, that's my story and I'm sticking to it..lol

Benjiherb

Rocky is back an a great pick up at a great price worth the risk as has the potential to be one of the major supercoach guns in 2019 .

Brn

I was answering why people didn't start him. They need to see the good games to know for sure his 2nd jlt wasn't a fluke. More good games = more confidence in him, and if when he mist likely has scored well consistently he will become a must have through many people's eyes

Hawk131415

Why does he play in the Mist??

Pranav

Are footy wire supercoach breakevens broken this year or does it take 2 weeks to kick in?

OldOcker

Break Evens take effect after 2 games have been played.
I would imagine that they will provide the information after the second week of games.
Cheers.

Lazza

Break evens for R2 are available on the Supercoach website.

Hawk131415

Break evens R2 Ozzy Osborne, lightning strikes

Hawk131415

Do yourself a favour!!

Hawk131415

Good Pod boys, liked it, ALLOOOTTTT, i have a confession to make, this was gonna be a never question and a simple downgrade,without anybody knowing, but im ready for the barrage and the laughter,, this is soooo hard to admit ,I never do this, but i took a massive risk that im not sure is gonna pay off, he looked dodgy on his knee, that much so i wouldnt be surprised if he doesnt play this week, ohhhh this is F%$#@ing hard, so embarrassed,,,,,,Tom Lynch!!!!! He gets this week, then down to worpel or the like,,,,please be gentle

Derek

I……I…….. I don’t know what to say……

Hawk131415

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha i knowwwwww

Hawk131415

I took a massive risk,,,,,, but he has to go yeah?? 100%

TommyC99

A sideways trade from him smells like disaster. Almost guarantee he will go off the week ya trade him

BlueBaggerJosh

Mate i took Petrevski Seton, and thought i was smart because i was initially thinking Lynch, then they scored exactly the same haha. Worpel looks the go but i'll give it a week, Blue bias is tempting me towards Fisher because i adore him as a player but worpel looks to have filled the t mitch gap quite well

Hawk131415

Thank Fark im not the only one LOL,,,, Cheers Bagger, im not sure on the wait a week or just do?? something in me still says give him another go if hes named, if not named, gone!!!

TOPHAWK1

Hi Hawk. Nahhh. All good! Tom Lynch could have been a nice POD. He started like a train and then he must have picked up a niggle and drifted out of the game. These things happen. There are coaches out there that started with Doedee or Rance. Both gone with knees. If T Lynch is going to miss the next week or two, just use a trade and fix the problem. Are you missing any must have rookies? If you do, just downgrade Lynch to a rook to raise cash mate. Then that trade is worth something tangible and is NOT a sideways trade. The rookie acquired will then also make you cash in 2 weeks also. Then next week you have a nice warchest and you have options to grab a few guys who have been tearing it up in the first two rounds. Just my take. Good luck mate! Carn the hawkers!!

Hawk131415

Is he done TopHawk????

Rick Grimes

I opted for Higgins instead. Could have gone either way too. Still might.

TOPHAWK1

Your call Hawk!!!!

Hawk131415

Have you an idea on is knee??

Russty_

"Obviously you're a bit sore after your first game – everywhere else besides the knee, the knee feels really good and I'll train today," the 26-year-old forward said on Tuesday morning after playing his first game for the Tigers in last Thursday's 33-point win against Carlton.
And he's equally pumped for this Thursday's match against 2018 grand finalists Collingwood, when the Pies will be seeking to make up for their loss against the Tigers in last year's preliminary final.

Hawk131415

Cheers Rus

Hawk131415

Nah mate got all my rooks, ill see what lines up ths week, he will probs go down to Worpel

Hawk131415

Cheers DJ, i think ill wait the week,,

Russty_

Nothing to be embarrassed about Hawk, hell I chose Degoey who scored a whopping 59 lol, thinking the same if he spuds it this week, and Worpedo fires again.

Hawk131415

Cheers Russt, pretty sure im one of few that took the Lynch risk,

Russty_

Yeah i just saw, 4%…good pod though, maybe back him in mate, he did kick 3 goals 1 so that's encouraging,just needs to get a bit more of it, he admitted he's rusty so will improve, if he kicks 3 being rusty imagine what he could do when he's 100%?..and in a good side for a change 🙂

Hawk131415

Bad POD atm Russ, gotta take risks though??

Russty_

If you don't have some uniques in your team, it'll just be like everyone else's mob, I've got Degoey and Greene fwd, both risky but a bit of risk makes it more fun I think.
He (Lynch)could be anything this year Hawk, up to whether you're willing to wait, if he got a few more disposals than he did, he probs would've got 80 or so, the goals kicked are the good thing about him, but also, ideally you'd probably want all fwd/ mids in your fwd line, for the mid time points…which is why Worpel makes sense if he backs up this week.

Hawk131415

Def the Worpedo

Lekdog

Wow…mate maybe you should have held that one in haha

Skindog

🥴

BMac

Given fwd & mid rooks seem solid, is Walsh to Clarke (via Burgess – Setterfield swing) worth it this week?

Beef up def rook stocks, make some cash and free up for corrections next week if required.

Sharkmove_King

No no no. Walsh will probably make more cash than Clark

Derek

Walsh JS very good, where Clarke might not be in cats best 22

Lekdog

NO WAIT A WEEK AND REASSESS

Benjiherb

Great website 👍.. had to trade doodee out after that awesome 1st quarter .n injury an thinking of trading merrett out or do I keep him an hope for him to bounch back . Currently have to 250 k in the bank as well?

Russty_

Hi Benji, Doedee was a great Pod pick I reckon, very unlucky he went down with the ACL, I had him in my draft side and I'm spewing.
Who did you bring in for him?
Regarding Merrett, maybe have another look this week to see how he goes, it's not just him either, it's the whole side at the moment.
You've got plenty of moolah so you could pretty much get anyone else if you're so inclined.

Benjiherb

Yeah doodee was always going to improve again this year . I Like Harris English even before he scored the 117 so I go with him over Salem,newman, an upgrade one of my rookies hopefully to Whitfield later on .yeah merrett has to step up against the saints . Aswell as the team .

Russty_

Great choice Benji, I love Harris Andrews and think he'll be top 6 defender this year, I'll be getting him in when I can.
Harris English is a pretty decent PGA tour player btw…lol. Salem and Newman could still end up mediocre I feel, Harris will only get better.

Russty_

Who'll be your VC and C this week?….I'm thinking Cripps or M.Crouch into Fyfe again, Fyfey managed to drag my sorry ass team just to 2000 points this week.

Benjiherb

Beams Vice
Danger Cap

Browncow

Grundy into Fyfe

Russty_

Hi John, hoping Gawny, Clary and Angus can step it on up this week for me mate, I suffered points-wise this round, bloody depressing, started with 2300 last year followed by 2200.

Russty_

Yeah it presents us with a challenge mate, trade wisely and catch up to the rest, and then hopefully surpass them….currently ranked 66000 and change….lol

Teddy021

Cripps into Fyfe for mine.

Holty01

Rocky into Macrae. I’ll wait on Gawn and Grundy to start pumping out big scores again before I consider

DavidC

Same here.

Mystic_Mac

Lloyd into Fyfe

NoLanguage96

I'm going M Crouch into Cripps. If I had Fyfe though I wouldn't hesitate

TOPHAWK1

No trades this week. Unless Brodie Grundy decides to drop another turd.

Russty_

Would you still drop him then T.H…who would ya bring in mate?

Spyda8

Grundy out Westhoff in
Mills out Worpel in
$231k bank

Nice_Person

Lol

Derek

Can you just go Mills to Westhoff FWD (via DPP)?

WebSpyda8

Yes but Grundy is not right so either Hoff or Nank

Lekdog

Don't do this.

Derek

Mills to Worpel is about as Sideways as you can get.

Look up ‘sideways trade’ it will have Mills to Worpel as its example

WebSpyda8

I see Worpel as a keeper, Mills is a defender that is not going to get the midfield time…….
Grundy shit in JLT and now proved it was real
Will bleed cash and possibly miss games imo.
My only question is wether Nank is a better choice than the Hoff

WebSpyda8

Lol Mills is playing defence and Worpel is on the ball….. mid fwd possible keeper D6

Hawk131415

Great move man

TRIGGA_HAPPY

Decided.

No trades this week.
Got all the right rooks.

Stick fat.
Watch the show.

Make a call next week after another round of footy.

Be the first time for a few seasons i havent traded 1st week. Am i getting less trigger happy?

Holty01

No trades for me either. I think we were lucky this year. Weren’t to many rookies who debuted rd1 so fairly easy to get it right. I learnt a valuable lesson last year after trading Menegola out after rd2, don’t trade your premo’s

TOPHAWK1

Good stuff Trigga. I am not trading either. There is no urgent need to do so. No injuries etc. It's always great going finishing round 2 with 30 trades. Then you can use 4 trades going into round 3 and 4 and start your upgrades and downgrades aggressively. I have all the right rooks and generally the right Uber premise. No Zerrett, no Oliver etc
Cheers mate!

Hawk131415

I trade arse off! Miss you Crouching one,,

Justin

Hi guys, I know the golden rule and all but…… I do have enough cash to go Collins to Newman, question is….do I feel lucky….. do I?
But seriously, thoughts please.

NoLanguage96

Thats a good trade IMO

DavidC

Does Newman get that role every week? In JLT 2 Simpson was more involved and Newmans score dropped off. Carlton might rotate the two through the season.

Maverick_

An article in the herald sun saying that Melbourne will stick with the single ruckman that they are backing in max to bounce back against the solo ruck Stanley and will NOT play pruess. Thankfully there aren’t to many clubs who can play a lycett/Ryder ruck combination that will beat up on max too often like they did. 1v1 he wins every time

kevwal

Didn't Stanley just beat up Grundy?

Maverick_

Wouldn’t say he beat him up. Grundy just gave to many frees against that hurt his score and missed 1 if not 2 goals you’d back him to kick most weeks. Still very competitive and as good as Stanley In my opinion anyway. Gawn will be looking to make a statement this weekend against Geelong.

Lazza

No.. he just beat him.. Grundy won the first half, Stanley had a big third, and Grundy seemed to run out of steam in the fourth… was just that half a metre slow…. his toe injury hampered his preseason miles.. clearly left him a bit short of fitness… he will be back to form very soon

Shake_n_bake

Houli out this weekend

ZzZCalintZzZ

What for?

Shake_n_bake

Tight hammy

ZzZCalintZzZ

Ok thanks mate

ZzZCalintZzZ

MCrouch VC
Fyfe C
Holding Balta
Going early on correcting Lynch from Richmond. I watched the whole game and he looks to be about a month away from reaching full fitness. He was gassed in the entire last qtr.

Nice_Person

Balta dropped

ZzZCalintZzZ

Cheers mate

Russty_

I'm Going M.Crouch into Fyfey as well Dave, sure you wanna pull the trigger on Lynch mate?…he did kick 3 goals 1 in his first warm up, if he gets a few more possessions this week, he could score ok.

Nice_Person

I stupidly picked lynch too. I'm canning him. Kicked the goals but didn't look fit at all. I would of rather seen 15+ touches and no goals with him covering the ground. He looked spent in the second quarter

Steeeve

Don't trade don't trade don't trade.
BUT.
If I downgrade Collins who has to go anyway (role/low scoring potential/concussion) to Wilkie I have enough money to trade Zach Merrett to Fyfe or Neale.
Don't trade premos you say. If you saw Merrett you'd know he should not be considered a premo right now. He usually comes good but even if he does I can get him back in for cheap.

Merrett might ton up. Fyfe/Neale might break a leg. Wilkie might score 2 points. But jeez it feels good to hit the trade button on this one.

Derek

I have Merrett as well. Didn't see the game but had a friend who is an essendon member go to game and he was ready to throw away his essendon membership after the game, he said it was spineless.

They do have Saints in melbourne this week. They Must respond and hopefully Merrett will lead the way

Steeeve

Agreed. I'll give him one more chance. Just not sure he has it in him at the moment. Carrying some Christmas roast around still by the looks.

Derek

I have Merrett and Mundy. I wasn’t super duper keen on either but they have a good bye round.

Think about bye rounds before you trade

Holty01

Hi Steeeve. Now that trade is interesting. If Collins was onfield or the plan was to have Wilkie onfield, I can actually see the logic. Plus you will have a captaincy option in Fyfe and Neale. I still wouldn’t recommend going this week but so far this would be the best trade option I’ve seen for this week

John

Well – I've got Hibberd. Sucked in by nostalgia and what I thought was a promising pre-season.

Do I pull the trigger and swap straight for Newman?

PS – Why are so many dropping B.Crouch and so many picking McCarthy?

Holty01

How do you see most traded out players?

Holty01

Thanks John. I don’t have B Crouch so probably why I cant see him.

DavidC

Just click on players from the drop down menu. On the right side of the screen there will be info on the most traded etc. You need to have Supercoach Stats (previously Gold). For the first 2 weeks everybody should have it for a free trial.

neil demons delight

Salem might have been better John watch for a better showing this week mate

Da_Boysh

im all about holding my trades – but come on Merrett played like dogshit

TOPHAWK1

Give him one more week. If he drops a turd then a straight switch to Matt Crouch if you don't have him. Corrective trade which saves you cash on Zerrett and makes you cash on Crouch.

Da_Boysh

i have Brad, thoughts on having both?

Hawk131415

Fine until the byes, could get hairy Boysh

Hawk131415

You think thats bad Boysh, ive got Lynch:(

Derek

he does have a good bye

Nice_Person

He was horrible, showed no effort at all

JEL

Reports are he had the flu

Shake_n_bake

Who to VC? Cripps or Grundy? going to Capt either Macrea or Fyfe

TOPHAWK1

Out of those two I would lean to Cripps. Fyfe is going to destroy Gold Coast. He would be my captain if I had him. Cheers Shake

Derek

Shake. can you do me a favour and move from Div 1 to Div 2 of the survivor groups. will even it all up then (140819)

TRIGGA_HAPPY

In need of a defender.

Now Houli is out i need a defender.
For all those playing along at home in Finns draft league propose a trade.

Gibbs is on the table.

Derek

how long is he out for?

TRIGGA_HAPPY

Tight hammy so maybe only 1

Got no bench