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PODCAST | Panic at the Premo

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It’s all come down to this. It’s less than four sleeps until lockout, and all the plans we’ve carefully put into action are slightly falling apart. But don’t be frightened, for Lek, Damo and Patch are here to guide you through the darkness and into the light of round one.

There’s a Panic in the premos – but stop. Trust your gut. Don’t make last minute changes. Back the process in. Back your guns.

On the rookie front however BOY OH BOY. It’s becoming interesting and there are precious few numbers. The lads run through them and give a final word of advice on the fables F3 slot.

Remember to check out the reviews of EVERY SINGLE JLT game, all the scores, all the team pickers, all the everything all over the website and jump into the Rate My Team Megathread and tell us who you’re picking.

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Sellars1226

Hey guys just some last minute thoughts about the team?

DEF: Lloyd, Laird, Williams, Smith, Scrimshaw, Clarke ( Greaves, Hore)
MID: Macrae, Crippa, Oliver, Neale, M Crouch, Walsh, Butters, Duursma ( Constable, Atkins, Gibbons )
RUC: Gawn, Goldy ( Sweet )
FWD: Danger, Heeney, Billings, Setterfield, Drew, Petruccelle ( Parker, Cotrell )

Foward like is lacking but Defence and Mids will make up the points I hope. Much appreciated guys

Nice_Person

With goldy at r2 you'd want to have a stronger fwd line

Carl

Very similar structure myself minus Smith in defense for me. Like it Sellars

Lekdog

I like the deeper defence, god I hope Billings works for you

Sellars1226

Me too Lek..Surely he cant have 2 bad years in a row.

Teddy021

Billings cost me a top 3 finish. Never again haha

Ross

Al Clarkson came out and said some comments towards Scrimshaw this week which recently which i think puts him in doubt for alot of game time and their plans for him this season. I think better going with Collins or Burgess who have their spot locked and will play week in/out

Hardy

join 807210

Phat Man

Hey guys, just after some tips on my team, it currently sits

Def: R.Laird, S.Hurn, Z.Williams, B.Smith, S.Collins, J.Clark (J.Scrimshaw, X.Duursma)
Mid: P.Cripps, C.Oliver, S.Coniglio, M.Crouch, J.Lyons, S.Walsh, Z.Butters, L.Stocker (C.Constable, B.Scott, M.Gibbons)
Ruck: B.Grundy, R.Goldstein (Z.Clarke)
Fwd: P.Dangerfield, D.Smith, I.Heeney, W.Setterfield, N.Balta, J.Petruccelle (I.Hill, M.Parker)

40k remaining in the kitty
Rookies subject to change after team announcements

Biggest problem is probably the fwd line

Lekdog

Lyons POD! If we get enough rookies I don't mind this side at all

Derek

Stocker is a fair way off getting a game

Lekdog

True

Matt

Good old Rodd Goldstein

magic mullet

which is better

Walsh and b crouch

or

Atkins and o'meara (Atkins will be benched for constable)

Lekdog

a)

Derek

Atkins will be lucky to play, walsh is a gun. the other two are similar output

Teddy021

Walsh and crouch

Dermin8r

my brain keeps urging me to swap JOM out of my team, but my gut tells me that this will be his break out season (105+ avg)…He is the only Hawk in my side, but I can't shake the feeling that this will be the year he plays 22 games and kills it in the midfield

neil demons delight

If we want Grawndy then its simple ,either a strong F4 or F3 .I have gone a strong F4 Dunkley Can[t have them all Top Pod boys helpful as usual

Derek

my compromise is to go Merrett instead of Macrae. can't have them all (to start with)

Bags

Hey guys, what’s the ideal bye structure? It’s looking like I could have 7-8 out in round 13 (hurn, crisp, Oliver, Gawn, Grundy, Danger, heeney and potentially de goey. Is that too many?

Such is Fyfe

3 – 5 – 6 or 4 – 4 – 6, logic adding two premos last bye round

COREYSC

180k In Bank and I don’t really know what to do with it?

Lloyd, Z.Williams, B.Smith, Collins, Clark Duursma (Burgess, Hore)

Macrae, Cripps, D.Martin, M.Crouch, B.Crouch, Walsh, Butters, Constable
(B.Scott, Atkins, Gibbons)

Grundy, Gawn (Sweet)

Dangerfield, Heeney, Dunkley, Greene, Setterfield, Drew (Petruccelle, Parker)

Thoughts on my team community?

BVB21

Brad Crouch to Coniglio

It’s a good team!

Dermin8r

you could upgrade T Green to Angus Brayshaw, just a thought

Hardy

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Papagayo

Have been indecisive this year, any thoughts appreciated with $14k remaining…

DEF: Hurn, Millera, Mills, Smith, Cunningham, Ridley (Scrimshaw, Burgess)
MID: Macrae, Crippa, Dusty, Kelly, BCrouch, Walsh, Drew, Atkins (Hind, Gibbons, Collier-Dawkins)
RUC: Gawn, Martin ( Clarke)
FWD: Danger, Menegola, Heeney, Moore, Setterfield, Petruccelle ( Parker, Cavarra)

Locked and Loaded

No discussion on Rozee? Or did I miss it?

Russty_

He didn't have the best JLT and he's expensive so he's probably in the back of people's minds but Rozee, Butters, Drew and Duursma are all confirmed to take on the Demons.

Locked and Loaded

Ok was wondering thanks… his high price is putting me off but a fwd rookie who has JS seems priceless right now

Madman

Hey guys just looking for any tips on my team. Decided to go with some very common picks in a completely unique setup. Know it’s risky but am keen for some carnage. Could win the whole thing, could finish way back in the pack but want to have some fun with it. Any advice on specific players would be helpful. Not keen on Libba but can’t figure out who to replace him with.

DEF: Lloyd, Hurn, Williams, Smith, Ridley, Clark (Duursma, Hore)

MID: Macrae, Oilver, Coniglio, M. Crouch, B. Crouch, Libba, Walsh, Butters (Bewley, Scott, Gibbons)

RUCK: Goldstein, Pierce (Sweet)

FWD: Dangerfield, Heeney, Dunkley, Kelly, Setterfield, Drew (Petruccelle, Parker)

Cheers for the podcast guys. Keep up the great work!

Teddy021

Too light in the ruck department. You need at least one of gawn or grundy (if playing for rank) if not both.

Madman

Libba & Goldstein to Constable & Grundy?

Teddy021

Can you go pierce to gawn and downgrade f3/f4 to a rook?

madman

I would prefer not to downgrade to a rookie at f4 as I would leak too many points

KSinny

Maybe downgrade Kelly or Dunkley to either Moore or a rookie and Ridley to Collins then Goldy to Grundy or Gawn

Teddy021

Kelly, mundy, dunkley or other at F3? Also questioning Moore at F4. Decisions decisions lol.

Danners

F3 is definitely a tough spot. Mundy I feel is ageing a bit could still average well though, Kelly I feel will be a bit inconsistent, and Dunkley currently my F3 could be played anywhere. Moore though, I can't see scoring well enough or making enough coin

Teddy021

Forwards are tough as usual. I can't see any other forward rookies playing long enough to make coin. Balta will be dropped as soon as lynch is fit etc.

DavidC

Lynch is playing R1, if Balta plays he should be a safe pick.

Hardy

join182223

TelescopicCox

Any feedback fellas?

B – Lloyd, Crisp, Williams, Clark, Duursma, Hore (Burgess Joyce)
M – Macrae, Cripps, Treloar, Coniglio, M.Crouch, Walsh, Butters, Scott (Constable Atkins Gibbons)
R – Grundy, Gawn (Bines)
F – Danger, Heeney, Darling, Moore, Setterfield, Drew (Petruccelle Parker)

16K left

Not sold on the rookie exposure down back, but I can make some moves with my premos to bring in Brodie Smith at D4 for assurance

Madman

Add in Smith or Ridley. Going to cop too many low scores early with that defence

TelescopicCox

Also anyone have spots in a draft league? I'm keen and can draft tonight or tomorrow. Especially a keeper league if someone has one

Cheers

TommyC99

Hey lads, what do we think we should be aiming for in terms of ideal bye structure? Obviously its easier and far more convenient to just ignore them but come bye time, i will be regretting not planning for them at least a little bit

Teddy021

Last season I didn't plan for the byes. I just dealt with it as it came. Made sure I had enough trades to get me through though. Finished 5th so I guess it worked out for me :p

TommyC99

Fair enough mate ahaha. Do you reckon 8 from one bye round too many?

Teddy021

I tried checking my team from last season to see what I had during the byes but don't see to be able to, but in round 12 I only scored 1583, so I imagine I had a fair few out that round!

The Ranger

Forget the rookies Tommy, just try and spread your starting keepers evenly if you can.
I only look at the byes in these last couple of weeks once I'm pretty locked in with my starting keepers and I'll only make a change if there is a keeper that I can happily swap to another that helps my bye structure.
At the moment I have 13 keepers and a spread of 5-4-4 over the byes.

The Ranger

And if you haven't done it already use Matty's team picker now and thru the early part of the season to monitor your byes.

TommyC99

Yeah i have been mate. I have 7 premo keepers out in round 13, which is probably too many. But i dont wanna drop any of them so i think i'll keep them and just not trade for any of these bye teams until after their bye.

COREYSC

Love the flex TeddyπŸ‘πŸ»

Teddy021

The way I see it is, you want to get as many runs on the board as early as you can to capitalise on other people's poor starting selections etc etc. Chasing points later in the season is a lot harder when everyone ends up with the same premos. No point planning for 12 rounds down the track when the first 11 are harder to get right.

Rick

Try to win 2/3 bye games. Very difficult to win all 3 and in trying to do so you may lose all 3 πŸ™

TheWizardOfOzz

The Coniglio song may have forced him into my side

Sellars1226

Is Scrimshaw not gonna play?

ross

Al Clarkson came out and discussed the younger players this week, and what he said kindve said there will be limited game time for the rookies etc. I think for the most part a lot of people took it that way. Its not a lock for the start of the season, probably safer to go to Collins or Burgess from the suns who will have game time guaranteed or just keep him on the bench.

magic mullet

What are your guys opinions on luke bruest as a POD

KSinny

Gawn and Grundy with 11k in the Bank or Gawn and Goldstein with 170k?

NoLanguage96

Gawn and Goldy with some bank

Stacky23

walsh and no money at m7 or butters and 50k?

KSinny

Walsh probably has better job security and looked really good.

NoLanguage96

Butters and 50k for sure

Wally Brando

Can any of you helpful people tell me how to look up my previous years' rankings on SuperCoach website? I found it last year but can't remember how…

Teddy021

History tab in top left corner.

Wally Brando

legend, thx Teddy!

Maverick_

the only decision left is I am to finalise is my F4 Currently it’s Greene but I have been bullish on Higgins all Preseason at an awkward price of 390k. U18s avg of 144 and JLT was impressive. Probably my fav player to watch love his energy. Is there a spot in the tigers midfield for jack to have a second year break out?

Rick Grimes

I'm pretty keen on him too. Just an awkward price. $50k less and I'd lock him in. Has been him or Vandenberg at F4 for me for few weeks.

DavidC

Well scratch Vandenberg off your list, he's going to miss up to 4 weeks.

Clarky

Hey guys,

so my bye structure is quite uneven atm. Its looking like 2-7-4 which isnt ideal. But my round 13 premos are the ones i'm most confident in. Hurn, Crisp, Oliver, Gawn, Grundy, Danger and Heeney. Do i just stick with them and look to even it out with trades during the season or should i get rid of 1-2 of them to start more even?

Sharkmove_King

No, that's fine you don't even have more than 2 per line

Brian

Thoughts on Elliot YEOOOO

Northerner

He will be a very good selection this year. I can’t accomodate him as he’s another Rd 13 bye player and I already have 7!

Mystic_Mac

Lock.

Cozza

Not sure if this is the right place to post, but have spots available in our league – Spidapigs. Code is 875706 – Anyone welcome to join.

murray

Issue 1: Are coach's losing interest in Whitfield??? I dont see him in many teams.

A lot of teams I see are going with one of the big two (Lloyd or Laird) then Williams and Smith, making only 3 defenders & rookies
This can be achieveable because there are enough good rookies in the back line this year.

Issue 2: The big problem is the forward line, very few decent rookie picks on this line, so it might be better to go 3 defenders/ 3on field rookies and 4 premo fwds along with 2 onfield rookies.

What do you think about these 2 issues??
let me know

Such is Fyfe

Issue 1 – Leon Cameron has said with Shaw & Williams coming back, Whitfield will be pushed back to the wing and even pushed forward. Uncertainty of role, I'd rather wait the season and see. He could still EASILY average 100 but uncertainty around the $540k price tag has pushed many coaches away.

Issue 2 – Feel ya 100% with forward line rookies. Decent scoring potential & JS I'd have Setterfield/Petreceulle, still decent JS but lower scoring potential would be Burges… then you'd have Parker as mature age still worthy of a bench spot and Drew with decent scoring potential but likely to be dropped once Wines comes back in round….. two.
Many are in the same boat, ideally try push a premo to F4 it will definitely be the area I target first for upgrades.

Good luck for the season.

Northerner

That’s my structure. 4 premos in fwds. Danger, Heeney, Dunkley and Boak. All midfield options. I was flirting with Darling F4 but too hard being Rd 13.

Brn

Yeah better rookies ib defence means 3 on field in defence, f4 deep with premos. Gp9ng 4 deep in both def and fwd will mean the other more crucial lines suffer.

F4 doest gave to be am ultra fwd premo, a mid risk like Greene/Moore/Vandenberg (yes he is a good pick) should suffice

DavidC

Don't think Vandenberg was a good pick but he's out now for a few weeks anyway.

Beezneez

Had Whitfield since day one. Proven scorer.

Murray

agree

murray

here is my final team hopefully, please let me know what you think

Defs Laird/ Whitfield/Williams/ Smith/ Scrimshaw/ Clark (Hore/ Watson)

Mids Cripps/ Oliver/ Fyfe / Martin / MCrouch / Constable/ Duursma/ Butters / (Scott/ Atkins/ Gibbons)

Rucks Gawn/ Grundy (Fort)

Fwds Dangerfield / Heeney / Dunkley/ Setterfield/ Drew/ Petruccelle (Balta / Parker)

Please let me know if I should make any change

Adrian

Whats your thoughts on this?

Lloyd, Williams, B.Smith, Moore, Scrimshaw, Clark (Duursma, Hore)
Macrae, Cripps, Fyfe, Martin, Sheed, Cousins, Walsh, Butters (B.Scott, Atkins, Gibbons)
Gawn, Goldstein, (Bines)
Danger, Westhoff, Heeney, Higgins, Setterfield, Drew (Petrucelle, Parker)

Worst thing is I am going to be without phone & internet on Thursday-Saturday. Going to have to hope these rookies get named…..

Adrian

Haha No not jail. Remote NT fishing trip from tomorrow to Saturday. Couldn’t get reception if I tried

Russty_

Some of the bigger Crocodiles have nbn now so you should be ok πŸ˜‰

Boris_Baconbeer

You can feel free to give us your log in details and we the community will pick for you ;D

Brn

Priorities mate. I have traded work shifts so i dont miss out

Andy

Brayshaw and Grundy or Goldstein and Macrae?

Andy

Already have both, can't split the option above.

TommyC99

Could you find the cash to go Merrett or crouch instead?

Placey

Thoughts on the Squad lads?
DEF: Laird, Hurn, Crisp, Collins, Scrimshaw, Clark, Duursma, Hore
MID: Macrae, Cripps, Coniglio, M Crouch, Brayshaw, Walsh, Butters, Constable, Scott, Atkins, Gibbons
RUC: Grundy, Gawn, Sweet
FWR: Danger, Heeney, Billings, Setterfield, Drew, Balta, Petrucelle, Parker

CJudd3Votes

Have Grundy at R1, backline is Laird, Whitfield, Williams, Clark and Duursma (Hore, Watson)
To complete these lines…

Brodie Smith and Goldstein
or
Rozee and Gawn

Thoughts?

kinglear009

Think you'd have to go for Goldstein since he gives you another 80 avg on the field – and Rozee looks like a terrible investment. However, if any other rookie is available apart from Rozee, go for Gawn.

Mick

Hurn, Witherden, Williams, Collins, Scrim, Clark (Duursma, Burgess)
Cripps, Oliver, Cogs, M Crouch, Neale, Walsh, Butters, Const. (Scott, Atkins, Gibbons)
Grundy, Gawn (Sweet)
Danger, Heeney, Dunkley, D Moore, Setters, Drew. (Parker, Petrucelle)

Thoughts?? I’ve gone back and forth too many times and this is the side I keep coming back to.

Kinglear009

Currently something that has my attention is the Westhoff Dilemna. No ruck cover this year makes Grawndy something of a massive liability if injury strikes – can't really have the donut.
The only truly SC relevant potential cover would be Westhoff. Has the handy Rd 12 bye, a fair fwd premium though unlikely to get the 100 this season.
If Gawn or Grundy skip a week, Westhoff pays for himself in saved trades/points. Unless you splurge on a likely ruck rookie now, it's something of a gamble we all must play this season.

Brn

Most will take the gamble and even make a trade if out for many weeks. It is a good point though, but are we overthinking it to the point of picking a mediocre fwd? Also a good question to ask. If you think westoff will continue his 100odd average, by all means he is a great pick. I see him averaging low 90s, and just not worth the risk for me. Like i said, very valuable anf interesting take

Northerner

I’m taking Bines in R3 which will allow an F5/F6 Ruck/FWD to emerge that you can trade to if say Grundy is out for one or 2 weeks. Could be Lycett rather than Westhoff.

neil demons delight

I am with you King.I have had him for a long time.Number two forward last year why not i will take mid nineties NDD

Sharkmove_King

Mid 90's would be top6 thereabouts. He is very durable too

BlueBaggerJosh

Seriously considering cuningham but his scoring could diminish with fasolo back in the side, thoughts?

Tigers

thoughts on J.Lyons and M.Walters?

Northerner

No to both for me. Lyons in a new team. Walters is too injury prone

Brn

Walters a good pod. Not for me though

DavidC

Walters is on my never again list.

Tigers

If zac clarke is named and is number 1 ruckman i might be bold and make him R2 to free up space for lyons in the mid at M6

KSinny

No

Sharkmove_King

I'd consider Clarke at r2, but I'd want Westhoff too

Blueth

Speaking as a bombers fan.
Lunacy

Marv

Hi

I’ve just had someone pull out of a supercoach keeper draft league that’s drafting tonight. So urgently trying to find a replacement. If you’re keen, committed for the long haul as a keeper league and abailable to draft tonight 7:45 qld 8:45 Vic nsw please jump in. League code is 494153

Marv

Filled now

Josh Ryan

Hey there Supercoach nation,
I'm looking for people to join my league (code – 874174). I have about 15 spots remaining, l would prefer people to join who are experienced or don't give up on their team half way through the season. Also how do you make the Phantom join your league?

Cheers guys.

Watto

DEF: J.Lloyd, S.Hurn, Z.Williams, J.Ridley, S.Collins, J.Clark (X.Duursma, M.Hore)
MID: P.Cripps, C.Oliver, D.Martin, M.Crouch, A.Miles, S.Walsh, Z.Butters, C.Constable (B.Scott, T.Atkins, M.Gibbons)
RUC: B.Grundy, T.Goldstein (P.Bines)
FWD: P.Dangerfield, D,Smith, I.Heeney, J.Higgins, W.Setterfield, W.Drew (J.Petruccelle, M.Parker)
Cash Remaining: $114,400

Any help would be appreciated!

Dan

I like Hurn as a POD and your side is a good POD side, but you are carrying a fair bit of risk with Higgins and Miles at M5, might have to burn a trade to upgrade or correct later on, then again who isn't carrying risk at this stage with rookies being uncertain? Goodluck!

Whitey

Whats Walsh got to avg to be a successful pick?

Rick Grimes

80 for me. I'm not overly worried about cash generation, just like to be able to hold him long-term while I sort other lines out. Last upgrade, like Cripps when he burst onto the scene.

Liam

75 would be successful

Sharkmove_King

75 is about par I think. If he averaged that I don't think it will hurt you if you have him or if you don't. For that price I'd be happy with 70+ in any other position.

Funny, but I asked that exact question 6 weeks ago and boy did it get some negative responses. A couple of JLT games and have the people come around.

Lazza

85+ to generate the $$ of the cheaper rookies …

Lazza

No first year player has gotten near that playing a significant number of games in a season

Derek

I have had Merrett locked at M5 since the prices came out.

I can’t recall seeing him any other teams

Surely he is a top 8 mid?

KeenButClueless

Two years as a solid choice 111 and 109. Back to 100 last year. I think he’s good for 105-110, so is not the worst pick, but is he top 8? He doesn’t give me the confidence that he will go 110+. I have confidence that the following players can MacRae, cripps, Oliver, Fyfe, Neale, Treloar, Martin, Coniglio and M Crouch. Think Merrett just behind that group

TommyC99

Before supercoach opened, i was huge on him, was in my starting side and thought he was going to have a mini breakout due to the attention being drawn to Shiel. But there are a few other options around his price in Crouch, Brayshaw, Bont and Dusty. PLus his lacklustre preseason has no doubt scared people off. I wanted to start him but not sure how i feel about 3 of my 5 mid premos being sub 570k, and would rather go for the tried and trusted premos of Cripps, Oliver and Fyfe. Am definitely targetting him around the byes if hes scoring well enough

Doc_1

Locked and loaded at M5 in the Destroyers Derek. He should kill it this year.

Derek

I think 2 weeks in a moon boot scared everyone away

He had a rough start to year with a head knock.

After the byes was the third highest midfield with 113,9

Derek

Jogged around for 30 mins in JLT1. Missed first quarter JLT2, came out and had 14 touches in 14 minutes in second quarter and then took it easy.

Shiel must make it easier for him this year

DavidC

Merrett might be a little less inside this year, does that effect his scoring?

Tom

Read his post above, had a head knock early, affected him the early part of the season. Absolutely dominated post bye as Derek said, no 3 mid averaging 113.

You’re getting him at a discount due to his compromised start to last season.

Tom

@Lazza

Lazza

On that basis Jack Riewoldt should be your F1.
Merrett will not out perform any of those starting as the Top 10, let alone Top 5. He just does not have their talent.
He will also be in a bottom 8 team.

Twilightingale

2016 Merrett was the 10th ranked mid, 2017 the 11th ranked mid. Last year averaged those numbers during the 2nd half of the season.
What's not to like about him at his price? 2.5 out of the last 3 seasons he's been a top 10 mid

Lazza

Hey Derek, Merrett wasn’t in the top 25 averages last year. Even Heppell out performed him. Can’t see him leapfrogging the top 15 and he has a few coming up behind him in Steele, BCrouch, Viney, JOM, Brayshaw. There is better value..

Holty01

I think his terrible form in JLT hasn’t helped. I had him b4 JLT started but not anymore. Problem at his price is Sloane, Martin and even Crouch(slightly more) have all impressed and are similar priced.

Blueth

Watched him closely in the JLT's.
Looks unfit and not a great idea to pick players on a limited PS imo

NoLanguage96

Gun. It was him or M Crouch for me Derek and I've given the nod to Matty just

Brn

Can someone please direct me to the source that says scrimshaw is in doubt? Thought he would be a certainty given their team.

Russty_

Can't remember where I saw it Brn but Clarko said the other day, he still needs some conditioning work.
Most recent things I've read suggest he'll start though.
The Hawks are missing a few due to injury, but that will open the door for James Cousins and Jack Scrimshaw to stake a claim in Alastair Clarkson’s side. Clarkson suggested Scrimshaw was on the cusp on selection, but he could make way for someone like Dylan Moore.
Saw this bit in the fox sports article…
AFL team tips: Why Cats could be poised for a 45-year first in Round One
AFL
March 19, 2019 11:58am

Beezneez

Exactly as Russty said – more conditioning. Was on HS site but can't remember under which heading.

Ja191
Ja191

Link has to be approved but go to the scelites page on twitter and they have a video from clarko 21 hours ago

Dermin8r

He's playing

KeenButClueless

Saw that Wines is 2-3 weeks away. His return seems to be drifting a bit. At one stage he was touch and go on Round 1. It was this Round 2 return that really had me spooked. If it meant a Petrucelle or Parker onfield, I saw a good advantage not picking him. Maybe he’s coming back to being a reasonable pick.

TommyC99

Why does my posts all of a sudden need to be approved? I can post small responses but when i try to write a detailed reponse to derek's post about Merrett above, it needs to be approved?

Moustachio

Think if it has a link

Tommo09

Westhoff or Petracca?

Sharkmove_King

Hoff

Russty_

Hoff's pretty reliable Tommy, Petracca isn't yet.

Dermin8r

Go The Hoff!

Jivesy

Can anyone please verify something for me.
During the season I know that if you make a trade after the first game of the round has started it can't be reversed (I have been caught out before). Is this the same for round 1 or can you reverse trades because there are unlimited trades for the first round? Obviously you can't trade players once they have played.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Cheers

Jivesy

Yeah. I am pretty sure that's the way it is. My brain is just too frazzled when we are only 2 days away.

DEESNUTSRBIG

Trades are unlimited during round 1 as technically the player selected has never played a game until they are locked in (when the team plays)

TOPHAWK1

I am seriously torn between Brad Crouch and Tom Rockliff at M6. Both not the most durable characters, both similarly priced, and both seriously good midfielders. I have room for only one. I am leaning towards Rocky, purely because he has had a great pre season campaign and has a seriously high point scoring ceiling. Thoughts?

Russty_

Hey Hawk, out of those 2 I'd go for Crouch just because he's in a much better team that could have a real crack at it this year…plus I think IF he stays fit, he's more likely to be more reliable than Rocky who can post wild scores, huge one week and crud the next.
Plus Crouch is still only 25.

Dan

I agree with Rusty. I'm a Port man and I feel like Crouch will be more consistent than Rocky, particularly when Wines comes back. Both aren't very durable but Crouch has youth on his side at least. He will be eager to prove himself alongside his brother in a strong Crows outfit this year.

Beezneez

Agree with Russty and Dan.

NoLanguage96

Have you got Libba Hawk? I's go him before Rocky or Crouch at his price

Russty_

He has all 3 NL….I tried a side leaving Libba out but I think he's just too good for value this year.

NoLanguage96

Yeah cool. In that case I agree with you and it would be Crouch ahead of Rocky

Lazza

The first handful of rookies have been named to start R1.
Zac Butters
Xavier Duursma
Willem Drew
Connor Rozee
Bailey Smith
Chris Burgess
Jack Lukosius

Sharkmove_King

Does that mean King (Gold Coast) won't play Lazza? Not that I want him, I'm just keeping track of their defenders to make a call on Collins

Lazza

King wasn’t mentioned, and I’d assume he would have been called out given the other 2 have been. Though they don’t play till Sunday, and the squad is yet to be announced..

greg

Hey community, I'm in a bit of a dilemma here, your opinion would be appreciated.
my two options are:
grundy, brodie smith and Collins in def
or
goldy, harris Andrews and a cheaper rookie than Collins
I really like Andrews as a pod but feel like grundy is necessary. what are you're thoughts?

Russty_

I'd wait and see on Andrews if he's gonna be playing fwd at times this year, obviously Grundy is better than Goldy, and Collins will play every week so I'd say option 1.

greg

yeah didn't realise there was a potential for him going forward this year, cheers rusty

Russty_

No worries greg, there was talk about it and he was even training in the fwd group, but that being said, Gardiner should be there for round 1, and Adams could be in there in 2 weeks so it's really up in the air at the moment.

dontblushbaby

B.Crouch or Rockliff or neither of them and stick with M.Crouch at M5 ? TIA, just looking at maybe boosting my FWDs due to the lack of Rooks

Ja191

Don’t like either personally but have gone libba myself. Take a look at m crouches stats pre and post byes, usually goes berserk after the bye so I’m gonna target him then

Russty_

Who would you be boosting to in your fwd line Dbb?…and who would be going out?…do you have Libba in your side already, I'd say stick with Matt, but if you had to pick of the 2,…Brad Crouch.

Juzzy

Hi Mate,

I have been trying to figure out a way to get Rocky in. Can't. But he looks fit and is a beast at his best. I get the feeling I will regret it when he starts pumping out 150s. Despite his injury history I also reckon he is a better bet to stay on the park this year than Crouch.

Hawk131415

Really getting excited, gonna be a crazy start, LOL

Russty_

Yeah me too, how's your side looking Hawk, are you all squared away yet?

Hawk131415

Yeah think i set Russty, maybe one or two moves? We'll see haha

Hawk131415

Walsh or Cousins is a question im trying to answer atm

Russty_

Reckon Walsh has the higher scoring potential and better job security.

Hawk131415

But he might get smashed around a bit where as Cousins is a little more hardened, might affect Walsh?

Russty_

Mate, if you don't think Wash is ready for AFL, just look at what he did in his intra-club match and then his 2 JLT's, he starred and made great decisions, I reckon that'll continue through the year, just my opinion though. He wants it all and he wants it now πŸ™‚

Hawk131415

Hahaha, i know all of that, wondering if teams will put a bit of time into him, like collinwood did to Watts,

Bailey

Thoughts?
DEF: R.Larid, J.Crisp, Z.Williams, J.Scrimshaw, J.Clark, X.Duursma (C.Burgess, M.Hore)
MID: Macre, Cripps, Dusty, M.Crouch, A.Brayshaw, S.Walsh, Z.Butters, C.Constable (T.Atkins, B.Scott, M.Gibbons)
RUC: Grundy, Gawn (P.Bines)
FWD: Danger, Heeny, Walters, Moore, Setterfield, Drew (Balter, Petruccelle)

$91,500 in the bank
Please help

ross

Scrimshaw to the bench for Hore or bring in Collins from Suns. Clarkson mentioned this week he will most likely play only a handful of game this year. Hasnt impressed this preseason either. Walters is very inconsistent also. Probably could bring in Dahlhaus, Dunkley or Lobb even for the forward line at a better price.

Juzzy

My resolution this year is to stick with my team and not make any last minute changes (rookies pending).

My 11th hour change last year was minutes before the ball bounced I decided to trade Coniglio down to Armitage so I could trade Grundy up to Kruezer …

Then again, if there is sufficient beer in the fridge on Thursday night …..

Good luck to all.

Daniel

Which of these midfield options is the best to start with;

1. Macrae/Cripps/Oliver/Treloar/Crouch + Walsh at M6, Butters M7 and Constable M8
2. Cripps/Selwood/Dusty/Beams/Crouch + Libba M6, Walsh M7 and Butters M8
3. Coniglio/Duncan/Bont/Crouch/Merrett + B.Crouch M6, Walsh M7 and Butters M8

Dan

option 1 for mine

Blueth

1

Baz

Have cash for another premo but unsure where?
In D4, M6 or F4?

Scoot

I'd go F4 Baz

Lazza

Same

Booma

Forward line rookies are thin, think we need to go deeper in the forward line this year.

DEESNUTSRBIG
dannyboy

A few leagues to join for anyone who needs a challenge against the community and some all round good competition

The Bounty Hunters – 190583 (Strong league)
Supercoachcartel – 186514
Jocks Straps – 655030
JR Community – 190888
Superflogs – 347259

Derek

Thanks Danny. I’m Back in Bounty Hunters again this year.

Still need a few more gun players.

Daniel

Why the poo-poo on mid provers when you guys are struggling with your rookie selections. I’d rather get 60-70 every week then have a rookie on the bench that plays 2 games for the year.

Russty_

By "mid provers", I assume you mean midpricers, no one's arbitrarily saying midpricers are bad or not.
Everyone's struggling with their rookies, cause no one knows who's gonna start or not yet.
Once they're clearer, we'll all be able to make the right decisions.
Are you picking a bunch of midpricers and want some validation or something?

DEESNUTSRBIG

Guns and rookies (need 13 star keepers to start). Yes im nervous about the rookies will no doubt have to use 2 trades coming into round 3 to correct them.

Will

Dunkley, Kelly or Mundy F3?

Blueth

dunkley

Nick

Dunkley for me.

Dill

Got a good league going if anyone’s interested, most of us rank between the 100-5k mark each year.

251548

Lycheers

is there any love here for Rocky or even a Lycett fwd line pick?

TelescopicCox

How much is everyone looking at the byes? I currently am loaded in R13 bye like a lot of others, and am looking at 7 premos missing.

Would you make any of these changes to help with the bye rounds?

1. Crisp > Brodie Smith (Smith D3, Williams D2)
2. Treloar > Dusty or Brad Crouch (moves M.Crouch to M4)

Both of the above moves would obviously free up some cash which could help with some flexibility (only have $10k spare)

Cheers

Billy

1. No, unless you use the money to improve elsewhere, downgrading a premium to a mid pricer

2. Dusty > Treloar. cheaper and should average more or less similar

Ratstoss

Looking for some seasoned coaches to join this league feel free to join thanks, league no 151911

magic mullet

treloar, Neale, Oliver or Fyfe for M4

and

mitch Robinson, breust, Dunkley or gray for F4

DavidC

Mitch is not a guaranteed best 22 at the lions this year. Should play round 1 but suspect he'll be in and out of the team a bit.

Billy

Fyfe, Dunkley

Lazza

Oliver and Dunkley

Joel

Which is better

J.Crisp, Z.Williams, B.Smith
OR
R.Laird, J.Crisp, Z.Williams

magic mullet

wheres the rest of the cash from option 1 going

Joel

MID
Upgrading gibbons to Rockliff or Taranto
Good move?
If so which one Rockliff or Taranto?

BRAD

thoughts on Gawn and Zac Clarke as onfield rucks and Mumford on the bench until he gets back from the suspension?

Captain Risky

I'd like to do that myself but not sure Clarke plays yet!

Lazza

Is Clarke playing?

Andy

Got 4 spots in my league which was very competitive last year: 229609

HarryO

grundy & Neale (downgrade from Oliver) + 3k bank

macrae & Goldy + 50k bank ( if I were upgrading coniglio)

Midfield as it stands now-
Cripps Oliver coniglio crouch crouch libba Walsh butters

Ruck- Gawn Goldy

Hope that’s not too confusing

Whitchyyy

F3 is still proving to be a pain in the backside. In order to get Macrae instead of Coniglio, I cannot spend more than $481k on my F3, and i have 3 options i am considering.
Billings (Burnt last year, super scared to go back)
Walters (Awesome JLT with unreal score/pm)
Boak (Consistently ok, playing more midfield minutes with Wines out, but doesnt seem to have a large ceiling)

Jeremy Cameron could be a massive POD, but a massive risk. Decent scores from JLT playing higher up the ground.

What are everyones thoughts on these options? Cheers lads

Dan

I really don't like to put my faith in him, but I am considering Greene. He should average well above his price category until his bye. I don't see him as a keeper but a potential one that will make some cash at the very least. Billings looks good but I resolved not to even look at him after last year. Walters is similar but I like him better. I think Boak won't improve on his previous season average and will average 5-10 points less. I think those players are awkwardly priced to be midpriced investments as they have less potential for cash generation. Players like Greene and dare I say Moore are less likely keepers but should make you some cash as stepping stones to proper premos. I would be investing in the guys you mentioned with the expectation they will finish in the top FWDs. I don't think Boak will, so for mine I don't see him as a keeper. Billings and Walters maybe, if they (or Ross) don't burn you. It depends on your trading strategy.

Whitchyyy

Well I am mainly running a GnR structure with Brodie Smith my only true midpricer (not including Williams), and backing in my rookies to generate enough cash. I have also tried starting as many top players as i can, like i believe my 5 premo mids will finish top 6, my 3 "premo" backs (Laird, Crisp, Williams) to be top 6 ect. And running Westhoff in the ruck gives me coin to strengthen other lines, and he can be swung forward come the byes and i get in Grundy. I think ill just stick with Cogs and stick Mundy or Dunkley or something in F3. Gives me another player ill be pretty certain is a top fwd. Cheers Dan

Beezneez

Agree.

Beezneez

Except for Billings imo. Had him last year but might be okay if playing more mid. Bit more expensive but T Kelly Menegola Dunkley better options if there not your F3.

Whitchyyy

I actually didnt have Macrae for the entire pre season until today when i decided to try and fit him in due to his ability to go laaaarge pretty much every week, but as you guys say, i probably dont really need him, especially if it means i have Billings instead of a D. Smith, Mundy, Kelly ect. Thanks lads

Hawk131415

Lynch to debut for the Tiges Rd1

gator59

More pain for Tiges fans… The boom recruit has never played a full season… Always injured

Lazza

That is not true Gator.. Lynch played all games in 2014 and 2016. He missed 2 games in 2015 (one thru suspension) and 3 games in 2017.

gator59

That maybe true Lazza but he's still crap … A lot like Hanners will be for the Saints

Wally Brando

some say T Lynch up forward could mean more midfield rotations for Higgins, whet do we think of this…?

Lazza

Higgins will certainly play more mid-field minutes this year, but not because of Lynch. Dusty will be the beneficiary (from a SC perspective).

dontblushbaby

D.Rioli will also play more mid

Gavin

DEF: hurn williams Smith Moore scrimshaw Clark (hore duursma)

MID: Cripps Oliver coniglio MCrouch BCrouch Libba walsh butters (Scott constable Atkins)

RUCK: Gawn Goldy (bines)

FWD: danger heeney Dunkley JHiggins Setterfield drew (pettrucelle Burgess)

148k In bank

12k short of Grundy an if I found it that will leave me with absolutely no bank..

could go a midfielder maybe cogs/Oliver to macrae..

OR I can just bank my 148k watch two rounds and make a call then.

Beezneez

Could swap Scrimshaw for cheaper rook e.g Burgess and get Grundy. Read in the paper this morning that Clarkson said Scrimshaw may not be ready.

Beezneez

Sorry seen you have Burgess in fwds.

neil demons delight

We have one spot left in A GRADERS 209085 please this is one of the premier leagues so only dedicated forum coaches .Also Tom (Brownlow Boys) you have a vacancy too might want to put your league no. up NDD

The Ranger

I've jumped in A Graders Neil but I'm already in a few leagues with the regulars so if you need me to jump out again just let me know.

neil demons delight

great to have you Ranger.All players are stayers so will stick around I made the finals last year on percentage pipping Tophawk I played someone who had quit long ago .Thats not good Never won Agraders all these years maybe my turn cheers mate

Defying_Madness

Got a spot in any leagues for me neil? Was in a couple with you last year but I came in late this year and missed the boat on all the leagues I was in last year. Would appreciate any competitive leagues at this point. Cheers

Nick

Hi there all. Struggling with my last 2 picks
Martin and Gawn
or
M.Crouch and Grundy

Thoughts?

Ja191

M crouch Grundy, don’t rate Martin at all for me

Wally Brando

M Crouch / Grundy 100%

Wally Brando

Menegola/T Kelly

or

D Smith / Mundy

??

Lazza

first option ..

Dan

Have you got Danger as well? All in the FWD? The byes might get messy!

Shake_n_bake

Community thoughts l have $240 in the kitty my 4 option are upgrade rookie to Greene Goldy to Grundy Rookie to Libba or just keep it in the kitty? I have 3 premiums and Moore fwd 5 premiums rest rookies mid?

Dan

I'd take the punt on Grundy and save yourself a trade. Carrying Greene and Moore upfront might be a bit risky and might cost you another trade. Throwing Libba in the mix will also likely cost you another trade, but undoubtedly all three should make some money. It depends how many keepers you anticipate to have in your side and how many trades you'll need to get to full premo.

I think I'd consider Goldy to Grundy definitely, and maybe one of the other options depending which rookies are named, but probably not all three.

Jonzzy

Any cash leagues going around fellas?