Lekdog is back, Patch still sounds like he’s talking through a wet paper bag and Damo is spitting sense – it’s all things normal on the Jock Reynolds podcast front.

We talk changes to the competition’s rules and how they’ll impact players (hint: we think they won’t) and also dissect some of the notable performances from intra-club and inter-club matches before we finish with Lek’s Comment Courthouse.

With the JLT starting on Thursday, who are you looking at to cement their place in your side? Who are you excited by? Let us know!

Categories: Supercoach

1,077 Comments

Nice person(Sc_Wow) · 26/02/2019 at 07:23

Taylor Adams
His finish to last year shows he can go 110+ and talks of his amazing pre season keep popping up. If he looks solid through jtl he's a lock

    Rick Grimes · 26/02/2019 at 16:03

    No Beams last year. Not sure what that will do or not do to his scoring.

    Woweeeeeee · 26/02/2019 at 17:06

    You’ve posted this a few times now mate, clearly you want other people to pick him so you’re not the only one. He’s a pod, but shouldn’t be a lock for anyone

      Nice person(Sc_Wow) · 26/02/2019 at 17:16

      I was answering the question that was written in the write up.
      who are you excited by?

    Bendigo · 26/02/2019 at 21:04

    Adams had the six most clearances 2018 with 146 if the new 6 6 6 rule helps players with greater clearance numbers he might be in for a good year.

    fatboyfat7 · 27/02/2019 at 11:55

    His finish to last year was as a result of his move from half back into the midfield. If Beams arriving pushes back to defense then it's hard to entertain him. Depending on that potential role switch, he could be a solid pick.

      Nice_Person · 27/02/2019 at 19:27

      All reports out of Collingwood is that he's a lock for their mid and is tearing up the track

        Lazza · 27/02/2019 at 20:07

        I want to pick Adams but I can’t force my finger to push the trade button … he would be my M5… currently Merrett.. but Steele, Redden and Heeney in the way… Heeney based on rolling rookie mids in and FWD rookies out… I think there will be more rookie mid options to trade through the first half than FWDs..

    Realist · 28/02/2019 at 13:12

    Just heard on sen he’s out for 8-10 weeks, unlucky

Nice person(Sc_Wow) · 26/02/2019 at 08:07

If Essendon beat Carlton lek buys patch a microphone that was made in the last decade

    Patch · 26/02/2019 at 21:03

    This is an idea. A very good one

Sixtybloody6 · 26/02/2019 at 10:10

I'll be looking at Mills role, after talks of midfield time and swapping with Parker. Keep an eye on libba, Walsh and Roberton.

    Derek · 26/02/2019 at 10:32

    my son was in the swans academy for 5 years, a couple of years younger than Mills. i saw plenty of him at training and games and he was 100% midfielder, never played anywhere else. he would get the ball when ever he wanted it. Mills is a lot bigger and stronger than you think and you could tell he had a good rugby background. obviously junior footy in Sydney is a lot different to AFL. as a result i have been very bias and have had him in my supercoach team every year. we were surprised when he started playing in defense, but knew that one day the midfield will be where he would play his best football.

    my son isn't that close with him anymore (he is at uni now becoming a journalist) but he still talks to other players around the swans squad. this year Mills has been training as a mid/forward, rotating with Parker in that role. Heeney has been 100% midfield. he is part of the swans leadership group as well.

    With McVeigh likely to start the season, which is unusual for him, we might get to see Mills in the guts where he belongs. Hopefully McVeigh stays fit.

    I said i wasn't going to start with him this season, but i'm putting up a fairly decent argument to start him. If he plays in the guts during JLT he must be considered. but i am bias.

      Sixtybloody6 · 26/02/2019 at 10:51

      I only picked mills on his rookie year obviously but never looked to him since until now…..not bias, needs to be watched.

      dontblushbaby · 26/02/2019 at 12:14

      So do you see Goldy v Gawn ( 144k difference ) as value or do you believe Goldy will score similar and thus being a keeper?

        dontblushbaby · 26/02/2019 at 12:24

        Soz, this should have been posted on Dereks trades below

      Tyruddanaut · 26/02/2019 at 17:32

      Brilliant bit of information, Derek. I reckon Mills will have an increase in mid minutes but the question is how significant? That is the risk, and if it is less than 50%, there are better options in defense.

      Patch · 26/02/2019 at 21:04

      This is intriguing – I've toyed with him but with so much value elsewhere it feels like too big a risk considering his history playing all over the joint and Horse's tendency to stuff us around. Will be watching like a Hawk during the JLT

      Russty_ · 26/02/2019 at 22:51

      Wow!..I think your name's a bit of an oxymoron there. Not very nice.

      Connor · 26/02/2019 at 23:06

      Actually Derek has mentioned his son many times before (particularly when the kid was beating him in SC)

      Troll Slayer · 27/02/2019 at 02:20

      You. A real coach, Ha. Why don't you post your team so we can all have a good laugh. Having a bad day today? Nasty little troll.

      Maverick_ · 27/02/2019 at 09:28

      Derek has mentioned his son knowing mills several times over the past couple seasons wow.. hopefully u got out the right side of the bed this morning

    skindog · 26/02/2019 at 17:14

    Hey 66, i thought i read somewhere that Horse said hes too good to take out of the backline so wont see that much mid time, but said that Papley will see a lot of mid time? i could be wrong but im 90% posotive,,,

Derek · 26/02/2019 at 10:44

Gawn down to a Goldy, Lloyd to Whitfield, Smith to Roberton & Libba to Walsh.

Gives me enough cash to go Rookie to Devon Smith.

    Nice person(Sc_Wow) · 26/02/2019 at 10:46

    All looks OK besides gawn to gold imo

      Derek · 26/02/2019 at 12:19

      i wouldn't mind starting with a mid-price R2 and getting a bit of a price increase at the same time Gawn's price to come down. I did that with Lycett last year, it worked out ok, but it meant hiding behind the couch everytime Lycett played.

      Would you consider Lobb at all?

        Nice person(Sc_Wow) · 26/02/2019 at 17:20

        Nope gawn and Grundy for me. Think the gap to third will be huge

    Tyruddanaut · 26/02/2019 at 17:35

    I wouldn’t go Whitfield or Devon Smith.
    Nothing against Whitfield, but Lloyd had the most non-played in kick ins out of any player last year and has proven his supercoach relevance. Whitfield relies on increased midfield minutes, and with Taranto or Hopper getting ‘significantly more’, and Shiel playing a lot of outside time, he wouldn’t be ideal.

    Smith is just because he’s injured. I would task a risk with the dogs (McLean, Dunkley). It reminds me of 2017 (Macrae and Dahl), or go Heeney, Walters or Worpel

      Gen · 26/02/2019 at 21:19

      Tim Kelly a definite option too

        Jester · 27/02/2019 at 10:15

        Kelly currently my F3. Surprised more aren’t talking about him. Will play primarily mid, especially with baby jeebers and dollhouse up front. Can see him avg 95+

          The Ranger · 27/02/2019 at 10:49

          If you're starting Danger and Heeney it's hard to squeeze in Kelly or Menegola as they'll all have the same bye.

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    Shaun · 26/02/2019 at 20:01

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    Realist · 26/02/2019 at 23:33

    Surely 3rd and 4th would deserve $50 each over the winner of bottom 8. Rewarding mediocrity. May as well just give everyone their money back

      Such is Fyfe · 27/02/2019 at 10:36

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        Russty_ · 27/02/2019 at 18:48

        I think it's a good incentive Such is Fyfe, like you said, ensuring everyone sticks with it.

        Realist · 27/02/2019 at 19:59

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        Realist · 27/02/2019 at 20:04

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Lazza · 26/02/2019 at 12:07

Enjoyed the podcast lads … welcome back … and thanks for the Heads-up Lek. A bit like my job when I go on leave … no one does my job for me whilst I'm away.
I tend to disagree with the notion that the kick-in rule wont have a material impact on the kick-innerers…. when certain players take a majority of the kick-ins there is no reason that teams wont take advantage of the rule. Those with a high gap between their play-on and kicks from the square will benefit most. Ryan for example – averages 4.5 kick ins per game, with a total of 107 kick-ins last year with 1 play-on .. others Hurn 6.8/129/53, Witherden 6.2/126/52, Lloyd 4.5/151/44, Wilson 4.3/105/17. Only one extra play-on per game ups the average by 4 points .. I think we can expect at least that from each of the above players.

    Derek · 26/02/2019 at 12:24

    it will be interesting to see what they do in the JLT. I can see it becoming an issue with some players putting their foot a cm over the line will get the points and other players who out of habit stay behind the line won't get the points. Champion data will have the final say.

    what have the girls AFL been doing. Do they mainly kick from outside the square?

      Sharkmove_King · 26/02/2019 at 15:49

      I don't watch it but apparently AFLW more often than not have played on quickly and kicked it as far as possible.

      I have a feeling in the men's game that will be the tactic if they can do it quickly. AFL coaches are very smart though and my guess is the opposition will set up a deep zone when they can. This will mean the short option might be the best for the team kicking out.

      Only my opinion but I reckon alot of these new rules to ease congestion could have an opposite effect. AFL coaches are just too smart, they will always play the game the way they want to. Best just leave it alone imo

    MrsWilson · 26/02/2019 at 15:17

    Maybe the rule change will see Nathan Wilson get the kick in/ run halfway up the ground before delivering a 70metre torp to the forward line and Ryan will get nuthin. Wilso is the best running kick in the game and Ross is sure to exploit that before giving Ryan a go.

    Patch · 26/02/2019 at 21:07

    I hadn't considered Witherden taking kick-outs… just as I thought I'd settled on a backline, too.

    Whitey · 26/02/2019 at 21:34

    Anyone got any stats when it comes to how most of the behinds come about? I'm assuming most from general play which may mean anyone could take the kick in but when its from a set shot there would be a desy kicker for sure.

Prizza · 26/02/2019 at 13:56

Horse on the record saying Mills will play more midfield time this year seems natural as Okeefe gone to saints and Kennedy slowing down a little, parker and him to wax I believe.

    DanHan · 26/02/2019 at 14:02

    hahaha O'Keefe or O'Hanners? #ROK

      Prizza · 26/02/2019 at 20:32

      Always did mix them up

Sharkmove_King · 26/02/2019 at 14:07

Hello Gentlemen.

I'm starting to really warm to Roberton. Can anyone tell me if Webster played that latest St.Kilda intra club match?

    Maverick_ · 26/02/2019 at 14:22

    Webster Didn’t play

    Russty_ · 26/02/2019 at 14:28

    No he was rested due to soreness, apparently Robbo and Savage played well with 6 and 4 intercept marks.

      Sharkmove_King · 26/02/2019 at 15:12

      Ok thanks Mav/Russty. I heard Roberton and Savage both played well. Do you think Robertons's role will change much with Webster in the side?

        Russty_ · 26/02/2019 at 16:21

        Not sure Sharkmove, if Webster plays on the wing, I reckon Roberton could share kickins with Savage, Carlisle still has to come in yet also and Battle was tried out in defence in the intraclub match and played well, so it's anyone's guess really, have to see how the JLT unfolds.

don’t · 26/02/2019 at 16:30

Jack Steven to take an indefinite break due to Mental Health issues

    Russty_ · 26/02/2019 at 17:01

    Jeez that's terrible news for the Saints, hope he gets well soon and comes back strong.

    KeenButClueless · 26/02/2019 at 17:07

    Hope he can get better and back on the park

    Who does his absence create opportunities for? Saw recently that they like Gresham as a dangerous forward and that they would mix mid time and forward time for him. Not sure Steven’s absence changes anything there.

    Billings was possibly looking at wing half forward, so again not sure anything changes.

    Could be Armitage. Bit more of a like for like and they didnt run Armitage too often with Steven last year. I thought Armitage might have been on the outer at StKilda last year, and was a little surprised he stayed on the list. Perhaps he is most likely, but it’s hard to pick him. Even with his DPP.

    Maybe Hind? Hope so as we need mid rookies. Hopefully JLT will help. There are a few StKilda supporters on the site (the intra club summary was extraordinarily good by the way. Convinced me on Robertson). Maybe some insights?

      BadgerHoney7 · 26/02/2019 at 19:11

      Hey KeenButClueless, I believe Saints have probably three pure midfielders (Ross, Steele, Hanners?? – wait and see) who really aren't able to play anywhere else but the guts and everyone else swaps (Steven obviously still plays bulk mid minutes but can play fwd) who are Sinclair, Steven (not rd 1), Gresham, Billings, Dunstan, plus then Clark and Coff who can rotate through at times.) with this leaving Steven and potentially Hanners not playing Round 1 leaves midfield minutes up for grabs which could go to anyone but I think we will see a rise in minutes for Gresh and Billings the most and then probably more wing time for Parker but watch JLT too see how this folds out.

    Nice person(Sc_Wow) · 26/02/2019 at 17:14

    Billings will get more of an opportunity

      Moustachio · 26/02/2019 at 17:25

      … to f*** us over. Again.

        skindog · 26/02/2019 at 18:26

        HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

      Sharkmove_King · 26/02/2019 at 17:38

      My thoughts exactly Wow. New recruit Parker looks like he could play the role Billings played last year (when he was scoring awful). Certainly looks like Billings will play a more SC friendly role this year. We can't go there again, can we?

        Nice person(Sc_Wow) · 26/02/2019 at 18:09

        I only jumped on him after his bye last year, he did quite well for me so I might go there lol

      Tyruddanaut · 26/02/2019 at 17:39

      Like your thoughts. I’m on and off with him, but overall I think he will only average 90 and that’s too low for me as a keeper

    Patch · 26/02/2019 at 21:07

    Poor bastard, hope he gets himself right.

    Wow what a joke · 26/02/2019 at 23:25

    You really are a disgusting person. Can’t wait for karma to bite you in the ass!

      Loop · 27/02/2019 at 05:28

      I dont think its Wow – see the comment above re having Billings, I'm pretty sure that Wow didnt have Billings.

        Lekdog · 27/02/2019 at 09:52

        Different person, banned.

Shake_n_bake · 26/02/2019 at 17:33

I have gone purely guns and rookies 13 guns l hope, with the only exception Roberton. But with the rookies just want to see if im the only one who has Rozee, Walsh & Rankine in their side??

    skindog · 26/02/2019 at 17:38

    Shake,i have all of them atm, dont normally go high priced rooks but these three look the goods,,

      Nice person(Sc_Wow) · 26/02/2019 at 18:11

      Tbh they always look the goods. So much hype with brayshaw and ldu and they both were not worth it

        skindog · 26/02/2019 at 18:33

        Agreed nice, the exact reason i dont select them as a rule, ive just had a fiddle with my side, and ive only kept Rozze, too much out lay, so Quaynor comes back in and some others to save cash and strengthen other lines, team looks better for it, accept my fwd line, it sucks, Really want TMac as i rate him highly, but has a niggle so i'll watch closely,,,

          skindog · 26/02/2019 at 18:34

          And like you were getting at Wow, its only intraclub and pracy matches so no real guage atm,,

            Nice person(Sc_Wow) · 26/02/2019 at 19:33

            Fwds are tough this year, atm I'm backing bilbo

        KeenButClueless · 27/02/2019 at 00:14

        agree on the hype and the let down. I suspect it might be the case for Rozee and Rankine. But my gut tells me there is something more to Walsh. Maybe it’s just different hype, I don’t know. But we could be looking at a different beast here. I feel like taking the risk and downgrade in Round 3 if I have to. So long as I don’t compromise my premo’s in doing so

          Russty_ · 27/02/2019 at 00:25

          Hi Keen, I think the only thing that will stop Walsh this year is a an injury…..he is a different beast.
          I'm trusting him not only to make me money, but deliver serviceable scores along the way to the eventual upgrade if necessary.

    Patch · 26/02/2019 at 21:08

    You're probably not, but I very much doubt it will pay off. Not a bad way to have it set now though so you can downgrade them if other rookies pop up.

    Have you gone rookie heavy in one line or spread them equally?

      Shake_n_bake · 26/02/2019 at 22:00

      For now Rozee def Walsh mid Rankine fwd. Rozee Rankine have fwd def swing

        JohnDJ59 · 26/02/2019 at 23:55

        Rankine is a fwd only.

        PJ8 · 27/02/2019 at 06:50

        Burgess is the one with DEF/FWD swing

          Shake_n_bake · 27/02/2019 at 08:36

          Sorry Burgess is the one with def fwd

    JohnDJ59 · 26/02/2019 at 21:19

    I only have Walsh now, couldn't afford the other two, but if they look the goods I might consider one of them.

BadgerHoney7 · 26/02/2019 at 18:34

Someone released two of Robertons stats on the weekend that was he has 19 kicks and 6 intercept marks which roughly accumulates to 118 SuperCoach points. This is obviously not including then handballs, uncontested marks and tackles etc. Not bad

    skindog · 26/02/2019 at 18:37

    For his price Badger, worth the risk for sure, D4 for me,

      BadgerHoney7 · 26/02/2019 at 18:58

      same, lock at d4

    Patch · 26/02/2019 at 21:08

    Hot dang.

    Sharkmove_King · 27/02/2019 at 09:50

    Great numbers but it was playing against half a St.Kilda team (assuming half the 22 are in each team) not including the players that didn't play

    Still, assuming he gets this role in the real stuff, he will make plenty of coin

BadgerHoney7 · 26/02/2019 at 19:19

By stats in the prospectus, a stat was released the other day that Jake Lloyd would have averaged 127 last year if the kick in rule was introduced (15 point rise). Other interesting stats are Sicily 113 ave (7 boost), Whitfield 104 ave (5 boost).

    Sixtybloody6 · 26/02/2019 at 19:34

    Not going bear Sicily this year. Swing man they've called it from the hawks.

      Yeahnah · 26/02/2019 at 19:57

      Where've you heard that mate?

        Don’t · 26/02/2019 at 20:14

        Derek , what’s your take on Sicily ? I see before you don’t have him in your team ?

        PJ8 · 27/02/2019 at 06:46

        Sicily def said it in an interview. Said Clarko has mentioned swapping him and Gunston at times, even mid game.

      Maverick_ · 26/02/2019 at 20:15

      Heard this also sixty..
      It was on the hawthorn website & afl app.
      Sicily himself said he and Gunston will swap forward and back throughout the season.. how often that is I’m not sure but a risk I’m not willing to take on a player at 570k

Prizza · 26/02/2019 at 20:40

Couldn't Sicily be utilized to keep him in the play more, isn't that where they are coming from? Such a dangerous player maybe they see more match-winning potential in swinging him around, his loose canon head is more the worry I think.

Lazza · 26/02/2019 at 21:00

What if the rookies we are banking on for R1 don’t appear … at this point, pre JLT, it appears there are only 2 guaranteed to start – Walsh and Collins … Most published teams have at lest 8 on-field rookies plus 8 on the bench… What will you do if we can’t have a Guns and Rookie structure that has all team members playing R1?
Do you bite the billet and retain your structure and take the chance your selections will front up in early rounds, or do you have a radical mid-price strategy in the back pocket? There could be a major scoring gap after only a few rounds if the rookies don’t appear in R1.

    Rick Grimes · 26/02/2019 at 21:02

    I thinks there's a few more with very good prospects. The rookies always turn up.

      Patch · 26/02/2019 at 21:09

      Agreed, although contingency plans never hurt for if we're stuffed in one line or another.

      Russty_ · 27/02/2019 at 01:10

      You're a charmer…no doubt lol

    JohnDJ59 · 26/02/2019 at 21:14

    I've structured my team around the rookies not turning up, so going with three mid priced players in defence and maybe one in the mids.

      Russty_ · 26/02/2019 at 23:11

      Hi John, nothing wrong with a bit of midpriced madness in defence this year mate..plenty of viable options there.

    Russty_ · 26/02/2019 at 23:16

    Hi Lazza, I reckon Parker and Hind from the Saints are pretty good round 1 chances, due to Carlisle still struggling with his back and Jacky Steven out for who knows how long, could push Gresham and or Billings into the mids and give Parker a good crack at it early on.

      JohnDJ59 · 27/02/2019 at 00:55

      Hey Russty, what do you think of Billings this year, I said never again after he burnt me last year, even though I managed to get out early, but he might be a good F4 option this time, if he plays in the middle.

        Russty_ · 27/02/2019 at 01:06

        Hi John, couldn't tell you how Billings is travelling, I did the same last season, dumped him early.
        With Steven now out indefinitely, he could get more mid minutes, but it could also be Gresham, Gresham can find the goals too though, and is a better kick than Billings I believe.
        I'll give you the ole cliche mate, watch the JLT and see how the roles play out, I don't think I'll ever touch Billings again, with a double-length bargepole regardless….lol

        Lazza · 27/02/2019 at 19:00

        Hey John, I was listening to the Saints CEO this morning .. he said Billings is probably the most impressive in pre-season training … worth watching..

        Patch · 27/02/2019 at 22:11

        In my side.

          Nice_Person · 27/02/2019 at 22:15

          Me too patch. Hard to find value in the fwds this year. Ppl forked out 500k for him last year

      Lazza · 27/02/2019 at 19:24

      Hey Russty, both in my set up at the moment plus Wilkie.. 3 from the Saints? Probably not .. those back-up plans are going to be important

        Russty_ · 27/02/2019 at 19:30

        Yeah I hear ya Lazza, Wilkie could be the one on the outer, with Roberton coming back and possibly Battle in defence as well…and someone goes out of the backline when Carlisle gets back also.

          Realist · 27/02/2019 at 22:22

          Wouldn’t be too worried about Carlisle, if Wilkie plays he’ll be cashed up by the time Carlisle comes back.

    Loop · 27/02/2019 at 05:40

    Petruccelle is one to watch. I think that he'll play but I'm not sure how well he'll score.

      Lazza · 27/02/2019 at 18:58

      Currently on my fwd bench.

Bendigo · 26/02/2019 at 21:16

Just looking into clearance numbers for 2018 J Lyons for the Suns 138 from 19 games ( 7.26 per game ) this gives him the third best average of any player for the year. Cripps average 7.72 Oliver 6.56.
If the new 666 rule favours clearance specialist Lyons may be a nice POD.

    Sharkmove_King · 27/02/2019 at 02:01

    Thanks for the stats Bendigo but if the AFL get the way and turn the game more free flowing, less congestion, it will be the clearance specialists who take a hit won't it? Due to less stoppages.

David Needham · 26/02/2019 at 21:22

Just looking into clearance numbers for 2018 J Lyons for the Suns 138 from 19 games ( 7.26 per game ) this gives him the third best average of any player for the year. Cripps average 7.72 Oliver 6.56.

    Bendigo · 26/02/2019 at 21:44

    Now at Brisbane may be one to watch in JLT.

Paul chapman · 26/02/2019 at 23:04

14 keepers + roberton, most teams I’ve seen only have 13, some 12. No laird, Lloyd, Gawn or macrae though. Is this smart or too risky, thoughts community?

    Paul Chapman · 26/02/2019 at 23:17

    Williams is the only one I’m not certain of, but have seen others count him as a premo so thought I would do the same. If I wanted to post my whole team mate I would have. Was just asking if people thought not starting those 4 was too risky…

      Russty_ · 26/02/2019 at 23:23

      Don't mind him Paul he's on some kind of trolling mission tonight…I have 12 keepers with all of the above mentioned, several midpricers and 3 rookies over 150k…it's all risky at this point in the season, go with your gut I say 🙂

        Paul Chapman · 27/02/2019 at 00:03

        Yeah I’ve seen some of his nonsense tonight. Cheers mate, yeah I had to get rid of a few of the more expensive rookies to get this structure. I think most people are getting sucked into the hype on Walsh/quanor/rankine etc. happens every year. Brayshaw and LDU were the same last year.

          Russty_ · 27/02/2019 at 00:13

          Yeah true Paul, expensive Rooks can be a huge trap, but I feel Walsh could be different, Rankine could be great but how often will it be in the Sun's forward line this year?…maybe not enough.
          I reckon the Pies will run with Quaynor early cause he could be a huge money earner for them…popularity-wise…the second coming of Harry O'Brien and all that jazz…just my opinion mate, make of it what you will.

            Paul chapman · 27/02/2019 at 00:23

            Yeah all this is very true, I just have doubts on the scoring potential of those higher priced rookies, history shows they often struggle. JLT should be a good indicator though

              Russty_ · 27/02/2019 at 00:27

              Another good indicator of their potential is their body shape and size, Walsh is compact but muscular and strong and Quaynor is strong and AFL ready…I'm looking forward to them both running around.

                Paul chapman · 27/02/2019 at 00:42

                People said the same with LDU last year. Being bigger will obviously help get them games, no doubt, I just don’t think that necessarily translates to bigger scores than a mature age recruit (there’s a few of them around). Quaynor I think may struggle to cement himself in a very strong Collingwood 22. Walsh could definitely be the exception though, I just want to see him tear up JLT before I commit 200k on a bloke I’ve never seen play haha

Russty_ · 26/02/2019 at 23:41

Hey guys, Anyone who'd like to join one or both of my AFL Fantasy Draft Leagues feel free to jump in.
I've set em both on auto trade with no restrictions on trading during the year, also in that game you can trade during the round.
It's all a bit of fun without having to think about it all too much.
After the initial draft, just check your teams for non playing players and adjust accordingly.
You can trade from the pool of players available or inter-team trade if you propose a swap with another player..and it's all instant, no waiting.
Invite Codes are …..
SWMPZ7FH
and
MKA29M4W
Go to the afl.com.au and click on fantasy …enter the draft game and then join league
Autotrade League and Elite Feet
They're public leagues so anyone can jump in…be quick though cause you never know how quick they'll fill up.
For those who join, let me know if you'd rather the bye rounds on or off…cheers.

    Dave · 27/02/2019 at 22:40

    Hey Rusty, I've jumped in both.

    Let me know if there are any SC draft leagues, super keen to jump in 1 or 2!

    Cheers

      Russty_ · 27/02/2019 at 23:10

      Cheers Dave thanks for jumping in mate…hopefully more will too, cause it's quite fun, even if you don't play AFL fantasy Classic.
      I'm in one SC mate but it's not my league, code is 766812..hopefully it's ok with Finn for you to jump in, if not sorry bud. I have no idea about live draft games, 1st time for me, there's quite a few others too who are the same. See how you go anyway…cheers Dave.

        neil demons delight · 27/02/2019 at 23:57

        Need some learned draft expert to do a bit here on it Russty. How do we pick etc lots i dont know

Sam_01 · 27/02/2019 at 06:42

How is everyone’s forward line travelling? I’ve gone heeny and danger then 4 rookies (rank/rozee/setters/cavara) I just feel like there is much better value in the mids and backline to put any serious cash up forward

    PJ8 · 27/02/2019 at 06:43

    Same as me Sam. Except I have Blakley as one of the four rookies

    DavidC · 27/02/2019 at 08:20

    The best rooks look likely to be in the mids. That's where the cash gen will be. I'll be going light in the mids. Forward rooks are usually the worst scorers.

      Sam_01 · 27/02/2019 at 09:00

      that’s a good point David, I’ve been tossing up Walters to go in the fwd but what’s the point when I can just get an undervalued mid, Walters is priced to average 90-95 where as I could get merret or dusty for less than 100k extra who will be banging out 110 average, just feel the coin is better spent on undervalued mids and backman

    Derek · 27/02/2019 at 13:58

    I’ve gone the opposite.

    Danger, Smith, Heaney, Mundy, Setterfield Parker

    Locking in to F4

      KeenButClueless · 27/02/2019 at 14:15

      Hi Derek. Like the structure, but I am starting to waver on Smith being a set and forget option. Apart from the bicep issue, I read on AFL website that he has ongoing issues with his knees. He is possibly priced at his peak. He has Shiel and possibly McGrath taking midfield minutes from him. He may still end up top 8 forward, and a safe choice. But maybe not a value choice

        Derek · 27/02/2019 at 14:45

        Thanks mate, tend to agree.

        He is the one I have just brought in. Happy with Mundy ahead of Smith

        I had to go Gawn to Goldy to get Smith, not liking that.

        Hopefully a rookie turns up

          KeenButClueless · 27/02/2019 at 15:40

          Hi Derek. If you go Goldy up to Gawn, what to take Smith down to? I am not enamoured by the potential breakout options. None are really screaming at me. So, how about a stepping stone? Neil has mentioned Zac Bailey a few times. 275k. You would need him to get to 425k to be effective as a stepping stone. Is he an 80 average? He will improve, but 80+ might be a stretch. The other one I would suggest is Taylor Walker. Around 335k. So he needs to get to 485k. Have a look at his draw for rounds 4 to 7. If you think he can have a burst during those rounds, he might be this year’s Bruyn Manoeuvre.

      Holty01 · 28/02/2019 at 00:09

      Like it Derek. I’ve gone strong in the forward line myself as feel the rookies are stronger in the backs and mids.

    neil demons delight · 27/02/2019 at 14:24

    Maybe we are forgetting one of the better forward options,Westhoff Surely will be better off with new rule plus will probably play more upfield with Lycett there

      Realist · 27/02/2019 at 14:39

      Westhoff no longer playing ruck, does he play wing or forward? Was a reliable scorer last year, but at 32 years of age is he going to continue on an upward trend, it’s doubtful. More likely to return to an 85-90 average and I can’t see that being good enough, better options at his price

        Derek · 27/02/2019 at 15:15

        i had an idea of starting a with a risky R2. if that the case i would definately look at westhoff to offer ruck back up.

          Realist · 27/02/2019 at 15:24

          Agree with you there derek, even as a value R2 he’s worth consideration. To pick him you’d have to be confident on his average. I just think there are too many question marks at this stage

          neil demons delight · 27/02/2019 at 16:55

          Westhoff was second to Danger on total forward points and 5th best on average Forte is the key to picking him though. In my team

            Realist · 27/02/2019 at 17:35

            Yes NDD but this was playing as a second ruck, won’t get that opportunity this season unless there’s injury. Average of 87 in 2017 and 85 in 2016 I think is a fairer indicator of how he will score. More of an upgrade target than a starter

              neil demons delight · 28/02/2019 at 10:28

              His ruck work was hardly relevant 8 hit out average and only one big ruck day against a depleted cats.Scored over 10 tap outs only 6 times He will still get 4 per game.Similar to Tom McDonalds ruck work last year. averaged 3 per game. Agree though an upgrade target F6 unless you are utilising his DPP which I am

    Sharkmove_King · 27/02/2019 at 14:43

    My structure is the same as Derek's atm, going lol light there just scares me. I like Mundy too, but I prefer Westhoff over Smith. Whilst I do believe Westhoff is slightly overpriced, I think his durability and handy DPP make up for it and some.

      Sharkmove_King · 27/02/2019 at 14:43

      *going too light (not lol)

      Derek · 27/02/2019 at 15:13

      im more happy with the rookie and mid-price options in defense. originally i was going 2 of the big defenders plus Witherden and Williams. I'm happy with just one of the big defenders and back some of the rookies at D4 – D6. last few years the defender rookies have been the stars

        Don’t · 27/02/2019 at 19:34

        So you are not starting with Sicily ? Do you see him as a top 6 Defender ? I like comments from supporters of each Club ?

          Lazza · 27/02/2019 at 22:10

          Sicily will be in my team at some point – 100% sure he will be Top 6.
          (Whitfield #1).. I just have to decide whether to start him or not.. his bye works for me too..

    Patch · 27/02/2019 at 22:11

    Badly. I hate it. The worst position in Supercoach each and every year.

    Dangerfield, ???, ???,
    Billings, Setterfield, generic rookie x 3

      Realist · 27/02/2019 at 22:27

      Surely not going burnman billings patch? Only scores well when saints play well, won’t happen a lot this year.

Rivo · 27/02/2019 at 07:20

Glad to have the Podcast back lads. This is where it gets hard. If you had to pick now…

1. B.Smith, Duursma & Setterfield?, or
2. Roberton, Quaynor & Petruccelle?

    Sam_01 · 27/02/2019 at 07:28

    Well rookies are totally dependant on who lines up rnd 1 so really it’s just smith vs roberton, flip a coin I’ve gone both, both seem good value

    Sharkmove_King · 27/02/2019 at 09:44

    Pretty close but I prefer the rookies in number 1

Sharkmove_King · 27/02/2019 at 09:59

Anyone been down to Hawthorns training much this year, or maybe a friend of a friend down there?

Has Sicily trained with the forwards at all? Because it seems silly that you would swing him with Gunston when Gunston is a better forward and Sicily a better defender. Gunston was an All-Australian forward last year!!! Sicily probably will be an All-Australian defender if he stays there. Makes no sense

    magic mullet · 27/02/2019 at 10:55

    sicily should play defence this year but he and gunners may switch in the last quarter if they need a spark in attack

    Prizza · 27/02/2019 at 13:21

    Started his career as a forward and I'm not saying he is a better forward it just makes him a dangerous swing that may not impact his scoring.
    Kicking goals, scoring involvements is also supercoach friendly.

    Derek · 27/02/2019 at 13:56

    Sicily will be in defence this year. Reports are he is the main man, will take a lot of the kick ins and will look to be the intercept.

    Shoenmakers has been training as the key forward role next to Ceglar, Roughy and Lewis. Gunston has his own position.

    Sicily will be an good pick, good POD, but is high priced for someone who is a chance of missing games. Although there is an article on the hawks website saying what a natural and mature leader he has become this pre season

    skindog · 27/02/2019 at 16:50

    Sicily will stay back, he runs forward anyway and kicks goals, He'll be smarter this year, gunner normaly forward and wing and spends time in def, im liking Gunner as a pod, shhhhhh

      Roger · 27/02/2019 at 21:25

      IMHO the Gunner is a low standard deviation player. At a guess and without checking, I would say that his price has been pretty stable over the entirety of previous seasons. This is not a bad thing but it means you can pick him up any time during the season. Right now is a good time to find value picks, players that will likely rise in value that you can afford now but would cost $100K+ more coin later in the season. The Worpedo or Chad may be better value in the forward line if you must have a Hawk

    Nice_Person · 27/02/2019 at 19:25

    I've seen a few articles suggesting that he will be swung at times. Just scares me off spending 570k on that. If I was certain he was 100% he would be a lock to start for me

Jester · 27/02/2019 at 10:53

Would the additional points given to kick ins come at the expense of other players given there is a specific allocation of points per game. With the 666 rule, I can also see an increase in clearances and contested marking forwards.

    Derek · 27/02/2019 at 13:39

    Still the same points.

    People talk about getting an extra 4 pts for the kick in.

    With the kick in rules, it is still governed by the basic SuperCoach rules. The player will only be rewarded with points if it is a good kick and will lose points if it is a bad kick.

    A 40 meter kick down the line to a contest, might get them 1 point if lucky.

    There is no points for the possession, just for the disposal

    I think the 4 pts is coming more from the other form of the game

      Derek · 27/02/2019 at 13:43

      In SuperCoach, about 40% of the points come from disposals, about 50% from possessions and 10% from hit outs, free kicks and other.

        Rick Grimes · 27/02/2019 at 15:46

        Good points Derek. I'm going to pick my team without much thought for the new rules. My only concern is around the uber priced defs, who I hate paying for anyway.

          Sixtybloody6 · 27/02/2019 at 20:32

          So you'll pay for the Uber priced fwds that throw out 30's?

            Russty_ · 27/02/2019 at 20:59

            Which uber priced forwards do you think will throw out 30-ish scores?

              AuroraBorealis?! · 27/02/2019 at 21:18

              I imagine he's talking about the JJK/Franklin KPP types Russty

Nice_Person · 27/02/2019 at 18:15

Thanks to Lek, who banned the troll from last night. I've now made an account to make it harder to impersonate

    Russty_ · 27/02/2019 at 18:46

    I couldn't tell the difference, why don't you just post under your old name..you weren't banned were you, it was just your Giants expert mate wasn't it?

      Nice_Person · 27/02/2019 at 19:22

      That's worrying russty
      I'm not going to get involved in at petty stuff though mate. So if you can't move on can you just not reply to me for the sake of the site? I'll do the same.
      Plenty on great comments on here atm looking forward to the season

        Russty_ · 27/02/2019 at 19:38

        I can do either…not reply when you're talking about Footy, or replying when you make it all about your ego, hopefully for the sake of the site, the ego will stay out of it this year.
        I'm also looking forward to a good season…full of varied posts, with a theme of respect for all and their opinions.

          neil demons delight · 27/02/2019 at 20:48

          Hey Russty is GRESHAM a chance now . He is one of the few relevant s/c prems.With more mid time he has to be considered

            Russty_ · 27/02/2019 at 20:58

            Hi Neil, yeah a chance for sure, will depend on JLT role..I think he's a very talented kid…kicks goals too, Steven being out could open up his chance in the mids for more time.
            I'm already running with Roberton, Parker and Hind though, reluctant to put a 4th Saint in.

          Patch · 27/02/2019 at 22:10

          Loving both your work here fellas.

          Cheers for throwing the account together Nice, does make it easier. That comment last night was from another account which has now been blocked.

            Nice_Person · 27/02/2019 at 22:13

            Cheers patch.
            Thanks for clearing that up with everyone too. Let's hope the trolls stay away

Redd · 27/02/2019 at 19:01

Hey community what a glorious time of year it is! Almost time for JLT cant wait ta see footy back on the big screen! Just gonna throw my team up n what ya think all feedback is appreciated! Good luck to everyone!

Def: Laird Stewart Witherden Williams Collins Quaynor Hore Wilkie

Mid: Fyfe Kelly Neale Treloar Martin Sidebottom Walsh Bewley Hind
Atkins Gibbons

Ruck: Nankervis Witts Briggs

Fwd: Dangerfield Heeney Stephenson Setterfield Cavarra Cottrell Mosquito Parker.

    Nice_Person · 27/02/2019 at 19:24

    Rucks look a bit weak if I'm being honest mate.
    Also not sure you can expect sidebottom and stepho to be worth their price

      Redd · 28/02/2019 at 05:56

      Thanks mate hoping to pick grundy up for a bit less i think he only need 1 quiet game for his BE to explode. And Steele us coming off his best season yet feel he's only getting better and stepho was electric in the afl x the other night heaps of praise from his teammates hes in great touch early.

        Nice_Person · 28/02/2019 at 07:16

        I was thinking the same about Grundy but then I looked at his games last year. A low of 95!! He's like picking an extra midfielder for me

    neil demons delight · 27/02/2019 at 19:29

    Dont know whether all four carlton rookies will start

      Redd · 28/02/2019 at 05:56

      Yeh thanks mate all rookies up in the air till rnd 1.

    Russty_ · 27/02/2019 at 19:46

    Hi Redd, with Nank and Witts as your rucks, you could probably only expect 180-200 max per week.
    Are you hoping to pick up Grundy and Gawn for a cheaper price?
    How much cash do you have left with that team?….Stewart could have a breakout year but also couldn't…I'd probs swap him for more of a premo.
    Depending on cash too…I reckon I'd upgrade Stephenson to someone more reliable….cheers.

      Rick Grimes · 27/02/2019 at 21:19

      I think Nank improves his average to 105, Witts I see 95-100. So 200ish between them. Gawn and Grunds go 250ish. So there's 50 points to make up else where. Does the $400k saved give you that? Can't really see how.

        Redd · 28/02/2019 at 06:04

        Cheers Rick yeh i think it has to. Surely u cant have the same amount of premos in other lines if you start with GG in the ruck? 1 or 2 below par games for them early and should get em cheaper by rnd 5-6

      Redd · 28/02/2019 at 06:01

      Cheers Russty yes def hoping to pick 1 or both rucks up at a cheaper price. Only $24,600 left in the bank. Im not sold on stewart eitha! Tried to fit as many rooks in as possible that should thin out come round 1.

    Realist · 27/02/2019 at 20:12

    Something tells me you’re a Collingwood man redd. Why no Grundy? Surely need at least 1 of the 2 big boys

      Brn · 27/02/2019 at 20:20

      Midfield and rucks make me want to spew mate. It somehow looks like you have gone cheap.on all lines. Too many mid pods. Stephenson and Stewart are very debatable, and there.is little appeal to nank/wittz. Sorry but its probably the worst team ive seen yet due to the unwarranted gamble

      Redd · 28/02/2019 at 06:06

      Cheers Realist yes 100% a pies man. Brodie has had an interrupted pre season just think he'll deliver at least 1 or 2 below par scores early n ill pick him up cheaper in a few rnds cheers!

        Realist · 28/02/2019 at 13:46

        Haha thought so mate, nobody else would pick Stephenson. Kids looks to be a star just don’t think he’s quite ready for sc premo status, would be worried about those 2nd year blues.

Maverick_ · 27/02/2019 at 21:04

Mumford escapes his suspension gets off with $3000 fine..

    neil demons delight · 27/02/2019 at 23:51

    about right inconclusive

    Russty_ · 28/02/2019 at 00:19

    Should we start calling him bad Mummy?.

TRIGGA_HAPPY · 27/02/2019 at 21:11

Happy with team

Havent changed or looked at it for a couple of weeks.
Too much analysis can send you ga ga.

Only rooks may change but even those prettyset till rd 1.

Funny turns out ive got the top priced player in each possie who are playing ie not titch.

And squeezed walshy in. Cant wait to see how he goes in JLT but kid is a brucey special. Worth the cash in my humble opinion. 👍

    JohnDJ59 · 27/02/2019 at 22:03

    After all my toing and froing I have just about ended where I started, sometimes it just pays to go with your gut feeling.

      TRIGGA_HAPPY · 27/02/2019 at 22:10

      As ive said all along mate

      Always back in ya gut.

      Started with the 7 reasons and went from there.

    neil demons delight · 27/02/2019 at 23:50

    trigg do you know anyone who can do a bit on the draft and how its done . There are quite a few newbies like me who dont know Derek maybe

      Russty_ · 27/02/2019 at 23:51

      I'm struggling just to put a pre-draft list together mate…no Idea how that works lol

        JohnDJ59 · 28/02/2019 at 01:27

        I've never done one either, all I can think of is you pick a player for a position each round, just have to keep track of what positions you are filling up.

          Nice_Person · 28/02/2019 at 07:21

          You'd also want to keep track of who is being taken off the board

            Derek · 28/02/2019 at 13:12

            It’s heaps of fun. Can be slow when a few people aren’t there and they get auto picked, takes the full 90 seconds per selection.

            Have a look at the Draft Doctors. Fantastic info and they have a mock-draft you can play with.

            JohnDJ59 · 28/02/2019 at 13:13

            Yes that to, but I just assumed that once a player was picked, they wouldn't be there anymore, having never played I'm not sure how it works, just guessing.

    The Ranger · 28/02/2019 at 17:38

    Really looking forward to seeing Walsh play Trigga.
    I wasn't keen initially but I looked back at what Cripps did at the start of his career ( 96av from 20 games in 2015 inc a 172 in Rd4) and figured he might be worth a punt.
    Got him at M7 at the moment and if he can average around 90 to the byes that will do me.

neil demons delight · 27/02/2019 at 21:47

It does send you ga ga Trig I have changed mine plenty At present i have the top two on all lines and they are locked. the mids are my biggest concern with 'prems',–maybe B crouch even could find his way to M5 presently occupied by Zac Bailey good luck mate

    TRIGGA_HAPPY · 27/02/2019 at 22:04

    Interesting M5.

    Whats the big attraction with young Zac?
    Do u have any inside intel?

      neil demons delight · 27/02/2019 at 23:48

      Leigh Mathews rates him over Rayner and Hodgey is big raps for him New role this year sees him running back which Fagan says they desperately need Trialled in that role R23 vs WCE and scored 87 .Tough as nails

        Derek · 28/02/2019 at 13:02

        $180k. You would pick him ahead of Walsh?

Mick · 27/02/2019 at 21:50

Welcome back to everyone on a new season

Happy with the team where it stands at the moment. Tossing up the value of Walsh in the team and if so then Mundy becomes Gresham who i expect to be a big improver this year especially now Steven is down (or maybe it's the Saints goggles I'm wearing). Will determine whether Collins is an inclusion over the JLT and will try to work out a way to fit him in.

Sicily Whitfield Wiliams Roberton Duursma Jones H (McLennan, Hore)
McCrae Cripps Kellly J Cogs Crouch Walsh Constable Drew (Gibbon, Bewley, Carter -my floating donut)
Grundy Gawn (Fort)
Danger Heeney Gresham Blakey Settlefield Parker (Burgess, Petruccelle)

Comments welcolmed. Good luck to all on a great start to the season.

    Realist · 27/02/2019 at 22:06

    Is the floating donut really necessary? I see a lot of people doing it but can’t really understand why. One of the rookies always gets dropped after a round or 2

      Mick · 27/02/2019 at 22:10

      I think there is merit in the floating donut if you choose the right rookies. Fremantle play most of their games on the Sunday and a floating donut gives more flexibility to ensure you get a decent captain score. Some may say I am wasting more $$ with one player who will never play but with so many rookies this year I think there should be enough cash. What do others think?

        Realist · 27/02/2019 at 22:16

        Fair enough mate, understand the thought process, can’t justify it for my own team though. I just think it makes it harder and takes longer to get to full premo, not to say it can’t be done though. Good luck

        KeenButClueless · 27/02/2019 at 22:48

        would you consider Mosquito? Essendon have said he won’t get a game early, but is likely to get a game later. Gives you your floating donut and saves you a trade to get him in.

          Realist · 27/02/2019 at 23:10

          Should change your name, that idea is anything but clueless. Very strategic

            KeenButClueless · 27/02/2019 at 23:22

            thanks. Can’t take the credit. Derek’s idea. But I do think it is really useful

        JohnDJ59 · 27/02/2019 at 23:38

        I always have a non playing rookie at R3, going with Bines $102,400 WCE have enough late games for it to work.

    Realist · 27/02/2019 at 22:08

    Not a bad team besides that though mate, personally not sold on Gresham but could turn out to be a really good POD

      Mick · 27/02/2019 at 22:18

      Thanks mate. Been swapping him with Mundy back and forth.

        Russty_ · 27/02/2019 at 23:19

        Pretty solid Mick, don't mind it at all, Fort could end up your floating donut anyway, reckon Stanley will stay ruck unless he gets injured.

    TOPHAWK1 · 27/02/2019 at 22:41

    Hi Mick.

    A really good tough G&R side you have there mate.

    No mucking around in the rucks, just set and forget. Over and done with.

    You have selected decent value premo picks at m4 and m5 . (That is "Matt" Crouch at m5 right?)

    The forward line after Danger and Heeney does look a little thin, but Gresham can (Unlike Billings in 2018) hopefully be a POD that delivers in 2019.

    Good luck mate!

    neil demons delight · 27/02/2019 at 23:43

    reckon Lloyd and Laird would be the two best def .all other lines have the 2 best but a great team should do well

BlueBaggerJosh · 27/02/2019 at 22:48

Lloyd, Williams, Roberton, Hanley, Burgess, Harry jones (Mclennan, Hore)

Macrae, Cripps, Martin, Merrett, Taranto, Constable, Ely Smith, Hind (Bewley, Atkins, Gibbons)

Grundy, Gawn (Fort)

Dangerfield, Heeney, T Kelly, Petrevski Seton, darcy Moore, Setterfield (parker, Cavarra)

100k in the bank, where should i look to put that cash?

    Realist · 27/02/2019 at 23:07

    What are your thoughts behind Darcy Moore? Seen a few teams with him and I have no idea why! Midfield is a bit weak imo but good team otherwise.

      BlueBaggerJosh · 27/02/2019 at 23:43

      With the 100k will probably upgrade Taranto to boost midfield a bit and maybe get Walsh if he lights up tomorrow, Darcy Moore surprisingly enough has shown very good scoring as an intercepting defender (ranked elite in some areas by champion data I believe) and the practice match with Melb filled me with a bit of confidence, looked very comfortable in the role. Only risk in my book is injury, albeit a very big one.

        Realist · 27/02/2019 at 23:59

        I think his injury concerns are only part of it. He is very cheap, but cheap for a reason, if you look at his stats I don’t think he has the ceiling that you’d want. I don’t think Collingwood will rely on Moore to provide drive out of the backline like a Sicily does. You’ll make more money from a rookie, just my opinion.

          Russty_ · 28/02/2019 at 00:10

          Got to agree, I'd be dumping Moore and putting someone like North's Wilkinson in there, and Parker onfield.
          Then maybe you could slot Libba, Miles or Walsh into your mids Josh.

Mick · 27/02/2019 at 22:55

Cheers TopHawk. Yes it is Matt Crouch. Went G n Rs this season even though there are players like Miles on offer. Looking more at keepers so I don't have to waste trades later on. Agree it is a bit thin but think there is more value down back and am prepared to risk the forwards more. If Parker Settlefield and other forward rookies do well then I am hoping that premium players who can score big will do just that. Have the best two players in each line (counting out Mitchell). Will that work? Time will tell but we all need some strategy and hope that a little luck comes with us.

Russty_ · 27/02/2019 at 23:49

Can't wait for this tomorrow night….should be a good watch to see how some of our potentials are travelling…
Carlton v Essendon at Ikon Park, Thursday at 6.40pm AEDT
CARLTON

B: K.Simpson 6, L.Plowman 20, P.Dow 2
HB: N.Newman 24, C.Polson 29, L.Jones 14
C: S.Petrevski-Seton 5, P.Cripps 9, Z.Fisher 25
HF: C.Curnow 30, M.Lobbe 27, A.Schumacher 19
F: W.Setterfield 43, M.McGovern 11, H.McKay 10
Foll: A.Phillips 34, M.Gibbons 40, E.Curnow 35
I/C: M.Murphy 3, J.Weitering 23, J.Garlett 21, S.Walsh 18, J.Silvagni 1, D.Cuningham 28, D.Thomas 39, L.O'Brien 4

Emerg: T.De Koning 12, L.Casboult 41, H.Goddard 45, M.Kennedy 7

Notable absentees: Sam Docherty, Alex Fasolo, Matthew Kreuzer, Caleb Marchbank, Darcy Lang, Jarrod Pickett, Tom Williamson, Liam Stocker

ESSENDON

B: P.Ambrose 29, M.Hartley 36, J.Long 34
HB: A.Francis 10, M.Hurley 18, A.Saad 42
C: D.Heppell 21, K.Langford 4, Z.Merrett 7
HF: D.Shiel 9, M.Brown 28, D.Zaharakis 11
F: J.Stringer 25, J.Daniher 6, A.McDonald-Tipungwuti 43
Foll: Z.Clarke 20, A.McGrath 1, D.Parish 3
I/C: C.McKenna 45, T.Jok 46, S.McKernan 44, J.Ridley 14, M.Guelfi 35, J.Laverde 15, D.Smith 5, M.Baguley 12

Emerg: J.Stewart 17, S.Draper 38, T.Mynott 39, D.Clarke 37

Notable absentees: Martin Gleeson, Cale Hooker, Tom Bellchambers, Orazio Fantasia, David Myers, Matt Dea

    JohnDJ59 · 28/02/2019 at 01:32

    Out of those named I will be looking at Simpson, Newman, Setterfield, Gibbons, Walsh, Merrett and D.Smith, not worried about Cripps, he's my main man in the mids.

    Sixtybloody6 · 28/02/2019 at 06:57

    Thanks rusty. Great content for those that don't know AFL.com.au exists.

    Lazza · 28/02/2019 at 07:48

    Hmmmm, Bombers only playing 1 rookie and Blues 3 plus Setterfield.. interesting that Gibbons playing ahead of Stocker

    neil demons delight · 28/02/2019 at 07:54

    Thanks for this Russty dont have to go to another site. all here .

JohnDJ59 · 28/02/2019 at 00:02

Final team till the JLT back where I started. Def: Laird, Witherden, Mills, Roberton, Rozee, Collins, (Wilkie, Hore) Mid: Cripps, Bont, Dusty, M.Crouch, Merrett, Walsh, Brewley, Hind, (Sparrow, Atkins, Gibbons) Ruck:Grundy, Gawn,(Bines) Fwd: Danger, Heeney, Dunkley, Rankine, Setterfield, Moore, (Parker, Cavarra)

    Realist · 28/02/2019 at 00:09

    Very similar to mine, mills a bit of a risk but could put you ahead of the pack. Strong team.

      JohnDJ59 · 28/02/2019 at 00:58

      Hi Realist, yes not many going with Mills 8%, I did have Williams at D3, but everyone seems to have him, so thought I would try something different.

    Russty_ · 28/02/2019 at 00:15

    Full circle ay John?…lol this game can do your head in…why Bines over Fort or Sweet….floating donut?…chances are someone on your bench will be that anyway I reckon.
    Could maybe go Quaynor over Rozee or have Burgess fwd to swing with him.

      JohnDJ59 · 28/02/2019 at 00:55

      Hi Russty, yes full circle, just about my first drafted team, but without Oliver and Fyfe who's injures worried me, my R3 is my loophole player, I find it works for me, I did have Quaynor at D6 and he will be back there if named round one and if he looks a better bet than either Rozee or Collins and I can always move Rozee into the fwd line if I want to.

      JohnDJ59 · 28/02/2019 at 21:32

      Already made a few moves Russty, Quaynor and Duursma in for Rozee and Collins in def and moved Rozee into the fwd line, in place of Moore. Merrett is also out of the side for now. Newman might be worth a look in def as well.

        Russty_ · 28/02/2019 at 22:02

        Hey John, what if you put Wilkinson in for Rozee…what could you do with that extra cash?
        As far as the expensive rooks go, I reckon only Rankine might come close to what Walsh is gonna be.

          JohnDJ59 · 28/02/2019 at 22:40

          I did have Wilkinson on the bench at one stage, so that could work and Rozee could still come back, in either def or fwd lines if he is worth it, just going with rookies that I think will be there round one at the moment, so there could be a bit of movement between now and the start of the season.

THE REAL STIX · 28/02/2019 at 00:29

How do people rate Carlton this season?
My guess is 4th bottom. They are better than Gold Coast and StKilda and one of the other average sides will take dive for whatever reason including injuries.
Forward Line : B+ (nice talls, lack a quality aboriginal forward pocket though)
Midfield : B- (getting better but not there yet, couple of decent players short at this stage)
Backline : D (bad backline and without Docherty even worse)

Carlton have a few stars at the right age but the team overall is not hard enough, missed more tackles than nearly every other side I watched last season. The kicking skills were not AFL standard and with Gibbs and Docherty out everyone else was exposed even more. That is the reasoning to bring in N.Newman this year.
The future is bright though, the talent level is better than a lot of sides and once their bodies get bigger and the kicking skills improve (draft/trade) the 8 will be in sight.
# If Carlton's backline had to play on Carltons Forwards in a real AFL game they would get shredded!

    PJ8 · 28/02/2019 at 06:47

    Who cares where they finish on the ladder. Just give us 3 or 4 cash cows in round 1!

    Nice_Person · 28/02/2019 at 07:14

    Can you provide the rubric that they were accessed with?

    DavidC · 28/02/2019 at 09:15

    Bottom 2 for mine. Gold Coast to stun everyone and win a few games including first round against STK.

    Lazza · 28/02/2019 at 11:38

    I don't. Can only see them bettering GCS and the Saints..

Nice_Person · 28/02/2019 at 07:19

Just checked Collingwoods opening rounds.
May be a while before Grundy drops in price. Cats, Eagles and Dogs all in the first 4 rounds

    Connor · 28/02/2019 at 12:05

    Think the general consensus for most coaches is Grundy is the one must-have ruck out of all the premiums (i.e. Grundy / Gawn / Goldstein / Nankervis)

    Lekdog · 28/02/2019 at 12:42

    Also has 7 weds/thurs/fri matches in first 11 rounds. Gold for VC

    Sharkmove_King · 28/02/2019 at 15:41

    It purely comes down to fitness, he's 100%fit I'll happily fork the 700k out. Unfortunately the JLT won't be a great indication because teams usually run with 3-4 ruckman on reduced minutes

      Nice_Person · 28/02/2019 at 17:05

      I think he still scores well against those rucks. Was just a bruised toe

Sam_01 · 28/02/2019 at 08:13

Anyone concerned about the carslile news and roberton having to play a lock down roll? Or did we already know Carlisle was crook anyway?

    DavidC · 28/02/2019 at 09:16

    Yep, my thoughts exactly. Roberton isn't a keeper anyway. He has only had one good season.

      SuperCoach Genius · 28/02/2019 at 12:42

      Is Lloyd a keeper? He’s only had 1 good season

    Lekdog · 28/02/2019 at 12:42

    Yep, big worry

    Realist · 28/02/2019 at 13:27

    Roberton may play as the second tall in round 1 as brown is suspended, but I think brown and Austin will be first choice. Battle has been trialled back there as well, so wouldn’t really be too concerned.

DILDOR · 28/02/2019 at 08:41

I've been tossing up between Jack Steele and Seb Ross for quite a while now, and it now sounds like Steven may be out to start the season. Both of these blokes will see an increase in scoring. Steele vs Ross, who would you take and why?

    Ja191 · 28/02/2019 at 09:04

    Firstly for either to justify a selection I think the saints would have to win more than 2 games which I don’t see happening. If I had to pick one it would be steele if he keeps his inside role showing some good scoring towards the end of last year. Ross won’t average over 105 and there’s way better options below him crouch/merrett/dusty and even Adams

    Lekdog · 28/02/2019 at 12:43

    I’d take Steele, ended last year on fire, Ross you kind of know what you’ll get already and it’s not enough

Lekdog · 28/02/2019 at 12:43

Taylor Adams getting surgery on his finger, out for 8 weeks according to Terry Wallace

    Maverick_ · 28/02/2019 at 12:49

    I’ll be watching beams & treloar a lot more closely now Lek with one less midfield rotation

    Nice_Person · 28/02/2019 at 12:51

    Ffs

    Shake_n_bake · 28/02/2019 at 14:09

    That hurts has been so far this pre season the main ball winner. Should have done this opp a few weeks back.

Maverick_ · 28/02/2019 at 12:45

“TAYLOR ADAMS

Star midfielder Taylor Adams will miss 8+ weeks with a damaged finger. He requires a bone graft”

I’m thinking this makes beams & treloar that bit more tempting now..

    AuroraBorealis?! · 28/02/2019 at 14:15

    Whelp, there goes that selection

      Sam_01 · 28/02/2019 at 14:53

      Look I’m glad he got injured kinda not really, massive pies fan but I’m not gonna lie my Collingwood bias and having that guy in my team was compromising my structures

        AuroraBorealis?! · 28/02/2019 at 16:44

        It fit my structure perfectly, his price was very nice for the rest of my side, looking at merrett or beams now

          Nice_Person · 28/02/2019 at 16:59

          What about brayshaw AB?
          I've decided to go up to treloar. Had to sacrafice libba for Walsh though

            AuroraBorealis?! · 28/02/2019 at 17:45

            Yeah Brayshaw is one to consider also, although he's only 1 or 2 concussions away from retirement at this point. How well do those helmets protect their heads? I've slotted in Merrett at the moment, even thought i promised last year when he was getting tagged that i'd never pick a small midfielder again. If i were to go up to Treloar id have to drop Gawn for Goldstein which might even be the right call, I'll be watching JLT closely for any effect Preuss has. Lots to consider over the next 3 weeks

            Maverick_ · 28/02/2019 at 17:45

            I’m going to work on bringing in treloar now there is one less rotation in the pies midfield..
            Crouch -> treloar potentially

              Sam_01 · 28/02/2019 at 17:49

              I had miles at M7 with Adams in my side haha
              I’ve gone
              Cripps Neale treloar dusty merret (adams has now been moved on to Walters in the fwd) miles dursma

Shake_n_bake · 28/02/2019 at 14:12

Still seeing some teams drop & looks like & im confidant hell get to rd 1 im in the minority to still have Green in my side.

    Rick Grimes · 28/02/2019 at 16:00

    Is gonna play r1? I'll have him if he's fit.

      Shake_n_bake · 28/02/2019 at 17:43

      Did hear hell play last jlt game.

    The Ranger · 28/02/2019 at 17:27

    Injury concerns + Flog factor = too much for me Shake.

BlueBaggerJosh · 28/02/2019 at 14:35

So many value selections in the midfield, i have locked two in the side (Merrett and Martin), who should the third be?

Crouch, Sloane and Zorko have reached a 110 average before
Jack Steele looks primed to break out
O meara could fill the titch void
Beams surely finds himself in the midfield rather than flirting with forward minutes due to adams recent injury
Bontempelli's supercoach scoring could improve as the new rules could see him be played almost purely mid
Too many options lol

    gator59 · 28/02/2019 at 15:04

    I'm backing O'mera

    Sharkmove_King · 28/02/2019 at 15:43

    It would be Crouch or Bontempelli out of that lot for me and it would depend on how much mid time Bont gets.

    JohnDJ59 · 28/02/2019 at 15:59

    I have Bont, Dusty, M.Crouch, Merrett in four of my top five mid positions.

Sam_01 · 28/02/2019 at 14:51

This is a wild one boys, but I have been toying with this idea he is currently in my team, Darcy Moore. Looks fit was clunking intercept marks in match sim could enjoy some extra points due to kick in rule fwd/def swing

    Sharkmove_King · 28/02/2019 at 15:45

    I agree Sam. As a Pies man do you see him a definite best 22? And likely to take kick outs or hopeful?

      Sam_01 · 28/02/2019 at 16:03

      Lock for the 22 bucks loves him and loves trying to persist with him and his roles, will be settled down back now and with all our injuries down there I’d say he is likely to be up for a few kick outs good long kick

        Nice_Person · 28/02/2019 at 17:00

        Until his hamstring snaps after taking the first kick in

          Ja191 · 28/02/2019 at 17:43

          Heard he was related to harley bennell na na na thankyou

Shake_n_bake · 28/02/2019 at 17:44

Wingard another fwd will cut from alot of sides

    TOPHAWK1 · 28/02/2019 at 18:14

    Yep. Wingard has had another calf set back. Will miss the JLT and round 1. Cross him off the list.

Sam_01 · 28/02/2019 at 18:19

Looking forward to JLT completely rearranging my side

AuroraBorealis?! · 28/02/2019 at 18:42

Are there any websites with live supercoach scores for the JLT? FanFooty doesnt seem to be running it

    BadgerHoney7 · 28/02/2019 at 19:07

    Please if anyone knows

    skindog · 28/02/2019 at 20:16

    i cant find any either, my normal one is not doing it atm,,

      ThatsGoldJerry · 28/02/2019 at 20:17

      Fan Footy is

        BadgerHoney7 · 28/02/2019 at 20:23

        Fan footy is doing dream team only?

skindog · 28/02/2019 at 19:27

Agree with the Merret call Banned, Fisher too soft, only early days though, lets see what the second produces

    skindog · 28/02/2019 at 20:08

    he looks soft to me dude, jmo

Nice_Person · 28/02/2019 at 19:30

Walsh is a keeper

    UpBeat · 28/02/2019 at 19:55

    f**k yeah I have a semi. The blues future looking very good.

    Sixtybloody6 · 28/02/2019 at 20:29

    Is there anyway to block someone's DP? This one makes me barf

skindog · 28/02/2019 at 19:31

When you get run down by a ruckman, you need to have a look at yourself, not for me Zerret!!!

skindog · 28/02/2019 at 19:34

Damn the Hawks are taking in a light Squad for their first jlt hitout,

skindog · 28/02/2019 at 19:53

I dare you to go that r1 r2 combo hahahaha

    SC genius · 28/02/2019 at 20:06

    Definitely a wise move, can loophole Walsh’s score from round 1

    Tomtom · 28/02/2019 at 20:16

    After lobbe’s goal surely he’s in the discussion for R1

      Tomtom · 28/02/2019 at 20:46

      yeah with Phillips, lobbe and Clarke as my ruck division I will definitely beat my top 1k finish of last year. Might have to take Dangerfield out so I can put more mid pricers in.

    skindog · 28/02/2019 at 20:30

    Its bold/crazy/silly move, i understand it, but,,,,,,,

      SC genius · 28/02/2019 at 20:48

      Sarcasm mate, would be good way to waste 6 trades in the first 3 weeks

        skindog · 28/02/2019 at 21:00

        massive sarcasm, this is a shocking idea, but go ahead with it,,

Sixtybloody6 · 28/02/2019 at 19:53

Bloody hell. Walsh looks really good! How many blues is too many?

    Russty_ · 28/02/2019 at 21:49

    Could probably run with 5 if you like Newman.

Sharkmove_King · 28/02/2019 at 19:55

Thoughts at halftime gentlemen? Im overseas so can't watch it but going off stats…
1. Walsh was already a lock for me, gonna be very hard to pass up for the anti 200k rookie coaches
2. Cripps is almost becoming irrelevant- because everyone will have him!
3. Newman is killing it but precede with caution as Simpson treats the JLT like a joke
4.Setterfield quiet
5. Gibbons 2 goals but low stats (small forward?)
6.Zac Clarke will be great is Bellchambers is ever injured

    Nice_Person · 28/02/2019 at 20:01

    Newman does look very good though

    Derek · 28/02/2019 at 20:02

    Walsh ownership about 40%, will be 70% by tomorrow morning

Johnny · 28/02/2019 at 19:57

Merrett isn’t overrated. He had an interrupted preseason was always going to start off slow. It’s the first game of JLT settle down.
Gibbons looks good, just don’t like his role, will need to kick goals to score.
Walsh is looking like a must-have.

    Sharkmove_King · 28/02/2019 at 20:09

    Actually agree with you on all 3 points Johnny. If Gibbons role is a small forward I don't think he can be M8. M11, with his price tag, maybe

    Johnny · 28/02/2019 at 20:53

    Don’t need to tell her anything, she knows more about football that you do

Derek · 28/02/2019 at 20:05

It’s JLT round 1

skindog · 28/02/2019 at 20:09

Weitering is getting a fair bit of it

Tomtom · 28/02/2019 at 20:11

Who are Essendon missing? They look shiteeeee

    Tomtom · 28/02/2019 at 20:54

    I could probably help with that

Rick Grimes · 28/02/2019 at 20:19

Just remember, it's JLT. History is littered with blokes who lit it up preseason and then burnt everyone once the real games started.

    Nice_Person · 28/02/2019 at 20:22

    Alot of the breakouts performed well last year

      The Ranger · 28/02/2019 at 21:40

      Spot on Rick

    Russty_ · 28/02/2019 at 21:45

    Best news out of this game is Cripps is still a juggernaut and Walsh looks very good, but still it's only a trumped up practice match, where the established blokes try to survive and the new and fringe players try to shine for their round 1 spot..it's not proper footy.

Derek · 28/02/2019 at 20:21

What story with all the strapping in Cripps Leg?

skindog · 28/02/2019 at 20:24

How are people rating Gibbons, kicked 3 but not muchetting a lot of game time or increasing in value else, for $102,000, kind of worth it, dont see him g that much either? slow burn i think?

    skindog · 28/02/2019 at 20:28

    Not much more, dont see him getting a lot of game time,** dont know how i stuffed all that up lol?

      Rick Grimes · 28/02/2019 at 20:31

      Yea bench filler I think.

        skindog · 28/02/2019 at 20:32

        Agree Rick

          The Ranger · 28/02/2019 at 21:39

          Fine for M11 skindog. At that price he only needs a couple of good scores to be worth it.

    Russty_ · 28/02/2019 at 21:42

    I reckon if he's only gonna be played as a small forward he might struggle to keep his place if he doesn't kick goals every week.
    9 disposals isn't very encouraging but 3 goals is ok I guess..and will he get any mid time…who knows?

skindog · 28/02/2019 at 20:43

Clarke wont get the no1 ruck job, wont score mate, havent liked setterfield at all. hasnt ben in my side, and wont be

Rick Grimes · 28/02/2019 at 20:50

Cripps in 49% of teams. What are the other 51% up to? He's the lockiest lock in the history of locks.

    Nice_Person · 28/02/2019 at 20:58

    Did he just hurt himself saw the band aid icon

      skindog · 28/02/2019 at 21:04

      Where you see that Nice??

    Russty_ · 28/02/2019 at 21:01

    He's pretty locky Ricky Grimesy :)…as is Walshy!

      Rick Grimes · 28/02/2019 at 21:08

      Yea I've had Walsh in my team for a while but wasn't happy with his price. Seems worth it now.

        Russty_ · 28/02/2019 at 21:12

        For sure…he's got all the tools, could have a Tim Kelly like year, or better.

    TOPHAWK1 · 28/02/2019 at 21:51

    AAAAAAAHHHHHHH. He blooody LOCK!! Welcome….

      Russty_ · 28/02/2019 at 22:05

      Bloody oath mate!….gotta pay the fiddler for the Crippsernator, and Walsherama lol

    JohnDJ59 · 28/02/2019 at 21:59

    It does make you wonder Rick, he's been my M1 from the start.

    Shake_n_bake · 28/02/2019 at 22:15

    Other than danger 1st picked

Tomtom · 28/02/2019 at 20:50

With all this great insight would love to know where you ranked last year….

    skindog · 28/02/2019 at 20:56

    Starting to realise its all garbage,, whats the point??

    Tomtom · 28/02/2019 at 21:29

    How was it bragging? was just making light of your lack of knowledge, but yeah enjoy having Clarke and Phillips in your team

Tangles · 28/02/2019 at 21:07

Still sacked McGrath. Went off a little early eh

skindog · 28/02/2019 at 21:09

Walsh is a workhorse, with talent, looks the real deal,,,

    Whitey · 28/02/2019 at 21:37

    Whats he got to avg to be worth the extra cash? 80?

      Skindog · 28/02/2019 at 22:18

      Yeah mate, and I think he will

        Rick Grimes · 01/03/2019 at 08:42

        Wasn't Cripps similarly priced as a rookie? Averaged 90 or thereabouts. I See similarities.

          Nice_Person · 01/03/2019 at 09:02

          Cripps second season when he was priced at 211k he averaged 96.3

Nice_Person · 28/02/2019 at 21:10

You're annoying

Sharkmove_King · 28/02/2019 at 21:19

Didn't watch the game, how did Setterfield look? 18 possessions & 8 tackles sounds pretty decent first up off an interrupted pre season?

    skindog · 28/02/2019 at 21:23

    Ordinary at best Shark

      Box · 01/03/2019 at 12:59

      Scored 113 SC points if that is an ordinary game I will take it any day of the week!

    Josh · 28/02/2019 at 21:43

    i think he played good enough

      Russty_ · 28/02/2019 at 21:48

      8 tackles, there's 32 points right there, a couple of marks and 18 disposals…would've scored ok I think.

    BadgerHoney7 · 28/02/2019 at 21:47

    Thought he actually played well

      Josh · 28/02/2019 at 21:54

      You could say that setterfield and welsh. Welsh is something special

    Lekdog · 28/02/2019 at 21:50

    Played ok, doesn't look polished. Can tell he has had an interrupted preseason but the run will do him good.

    TOPHAWK1 · 28/02/2019 at 21:56

    Didn't watch the game?

    How can you make shark moves mate? Sharks are always watching!

    Just kidding. LOL

    Here is my shark move candidate……Andrew Mc Grath in the midfield at m6. Bang!

      Russty_ · 28/02/2019 at 22:26

      Mate I wouldn't do it…he's averaged 70 for the last 2 years, if he does that again you'll be stuck with him cause he won't make any money.
      Walsh will average more than him I think. Libba or Miles will go better I feel as well.
      Just my opinion, could be totally wrong lol

        Nice_Person · 01/03/2019 at 09:05

        I think you're spot on Russty. McGrath had the midfield to himself last night, against the blues and scored an 85.
        Again this was with Zerrett, Heppel and Smith playing half a match of footy and Sheil playing minimal minutes.

        In the regal season his opportunities in the midfield will decrease, definitely not worth a spot at m6

      Sharkmove_King · 28/02/2019 at 23:23

      Haha. Even sharks need to sleep every now and then!

    Tomtom · 28/02/2019 at 22:39

    I think he got better as the game went on, needs to play well next week to earn a spot in my team

    Nice_Person · 01/03/2019 at 08:31

    113 points I'll take that from an ordinary game.
    Looks like he likes to kick which is nice. And had a few very nice inside 50s

Rick Grimes · 28/02/2019 at 21:23

Are you drunk?

Tomtom · 28/02/2019 at 21:33

Don’t worry mate you certainly haven’t posted anything intelligent

Josh · 28/02/2019 at 21:55

Setterfield and welsh are locks sorry

    Russty_ · 28/02/2019 at 22:37

    Any guy that makes 8 tackles in a game is ok in my book! 🙂 plus he had 19 disposals with 17 kicks…yowza!

Josh · 28/02/2019 at 22:00

did Gibson do enough for a round 1 call up

    Russty_ · 28/02/2019 at 22:07

    Probably I think Josh, 3 goals from only 7 kicks is a good return for a small forward, in a team that's struggled to score recently.
    He'll get better too, he has a lot of experience.

TOPHAWK1 · 28/02/2019 at 22:16

Anybody else looking at Zac Clarke at R2 tonight?

Saving cash in the ruck is exciting!

Keep Fort around to swing between R3 and R2 to make even more cash. This could be ruck cash $$$ generation combo on steroids in 2019.

    AuroraBorealis?! · 28/02/2019 at 22:20

    God the size of your plums would have to be enormous, looking at you Derek

      AuroraBorealis?! · 28/02/2019 at 22:28

      I've just done it as an experiment and it either allows me to get Lloyd in and have roberton at d5 or T.Kelly at f4, very interesting. I've always been one to play supercoach conservatively and i tend to end up with mediocre results inside 20k – 5k, maybe this year is when i try something different? Just dont know if i can bring myself to do it at this point

    Josh · 28/02/2019 at 22:25

    You will have too have balls of steel to go with that but if it pays off wow wee

    BlueBaggerJosh · 28/02/2019 at 22:32

    Maybe if Bellchambers disappears into thin air

    TRIGGA_HAPPY · 01/03/2019 at 11:16

    Hawk 3 things.

    1. JLT
    2. No Belly.
    3. No opposition – Phillips?

    Always good to look at who is missing and who went well.

    If/when plays with Belly in team then please consider.

    Nice_Person · 01/03/2019 at 11:57

    Nah I'll take gawn

      JohnDJ59 · 01/03/2019 at 13:44

      Grundy and Gawn locked in my team until there is a reason for them not to be.

    Maverick_ · 01/03/2019 at 12:57

    bellchambers is still #1 at the dons hawk.
    English would be a cheaper option if u don't want to forkout for 2 of the 3 Gs.
    I am praying goldy lights up the JLT because i can't afford to go up to grundy & gawn without restructuring my side.

AuroraBorealis?! · 28/02/2019 at 22:19

Yawn

    The Ranger · 28/02/2019 at 22:34

    Yawn

      Rick Grimes · 01/03/2019 at 06:28

      They say limitation is the sincerest form of flattery, but is rather this guy just buggger off.

neil demons delight · 28/02/2019 at 22:19

Newman comes into it now just worried about too many blues

    BlueBaggerJosh · 28/02/2019 at 22:33

    And Simpson kinda suffered, only JLT tho

      Russty_ · 28/02/2019 at 22:39

      He would've just been taking a back seat Josh…for the preservation of his well travelled body.

        BlueBaggerJosh · 28/02/2019 at 22:48

        Yes very true just trying to scare people off so i can keep his ownership low shhhhh

        TOPHAWK1 · 28/02/2019 at 22:49

        Cudos.

    TOPHAWK1 · 28/02/2019 at 22:38

    I am not overly concerned as only Cripps and Kade Simpson are genuine premo keepers. Gibbons, Setterfield, and Walsh are rookie cash cows, and Fisher and Newman are break out contenders. If Walsh becomes the 2019 version of 2018 Tim Kelly then that is a bonus! Plenty more rooks on show over the JLT. Cheers TH

      neil demons delight · 28/02/2019 at 23:03

      That's a lot of midpricers and high priced rooks Toppa but you may be on to something The 2016 winner had 5 midpricers and 4 expensive rooks

      TRIGGA_HAPPY · 01/03/2019 at 12:57

      2015 version of crippa with the same starting price will do me. 👍

Josh · 28/02/2019 at 22:26

How good is it to have footy back

Tomtom · 28/02/2019 at 22:33

The main reason people have left is because of “frogs” like you. Constantly insulting and baiting people when everyone else here just wants help/discussion. You are literally the definition of a troll. Lek and patch are trying to keep the site going, they don’t deserve to be putting up with this rubbish. Do us all a favour and go away!

Russty_ · 28/02/2019 at 22:38

Rick, when are you coming back to the Walking Dead?

TOPHAWK1 · 28/02/2019 at 22:43

Skindog! I just read your post. Look out for this: "Comment deleted by the administrator"

neil demons delight · 28/02/2019 at 22:55

I have a good idea who you are and you know I do ` All we want is a site to express our thoughts without fear of abuse.and good banter. You have had these views for a while now. Hope you are wrong All the foxes are now gone

Sharkmove_King · 28/02/2019 at 23:27

Are there 2 skindogs? 1 with a capital S and 1 without?

    Russty_ · 28/02/2019 at 23:31

    I think so, I was trying to explain that to him the other day but he doesn't seem to acknowledge the fact…they have different punctuation traits.
    Someone is posting under the same name but the real one doesn't seem to notice?

Holty01 · 28/02/2019 at 23:51

I’m in South Africa and just saw the result. My beloved Carlton has won a game, you little beauty (I know it’s only JLT but please let me have this moment). Cripps seems to have confirmed he is a must. I’m very happy with the stats of the 1st year players. Although happy Walsh played well but unhappy he dominated as now everyone will start him. I have read some comments on here that Setterfield wasn’t that great but if 8 tackles and 18 touches is a poor game, I’m happy having that in my forward line as I think most of us know finding forward rookies who can score ok is very hard to find. I assume Gibbons played a small forward role? Would loved to have seen how he would go in the midfield

    Russty_ · 01/03/2019 at 00:37

    Hi Holty!…what ya doing over there in District 9?
    Setterfield was very serviceable mate with 8 tackles and 17 kicks, and I'm afraid the cat is out of the bag with Walsh…every man and his 2 dogs will have him before the season starts now. Yeah Gibbons fwd, 3 goals from 7 kicks.
    Don't go swimming in the Ocean there mate, or if you do, take Mick Fanning with ya.

      Holty01 · 01/03/2019 at 05:48

      My sister in-law is getting married (my wife is a saffa).

GloryDays94 · 01/03/2019 at 13:01

Bye Felicia 👍🖐

    skindog · 01/03/2019 at 17:55

    By Gloryhole

      GloryDays94 · 01/03/2019 at 22:35

      You really are a huge flog arent you 😂 Goodluck this year champ 👍

Longy · 01/03/2019 at 14:53

What do we need English to average to make him justifiable at R2? Starting at 310k if he made 150k and Gawn/Grundy dropped to 550-600 that’d be nice. Going English instead of Gawn will save you 380k.
If you can use that to grab another premium in the midfield to make up the points surely it’s well worth considering.
The jobs his to lose at the doggies

    KeenButClueless · 01/03/2019 at 16:44

    Logic is fine. The problem I see is making the 150k. This would need him to average 88-92. I am not convinced he’s at that range yet. Happy to be wrong, but I think it’s a stretch.

Longy · 01/03/2019 at 15:13

can somebody tell me a bit about westhoff i don't know much about his 2018 job role n 2019 role this season ..
With Lycett and Ryder going to ruck what's this mean for justin?
Will playing a wing/fwd role have him score more than he did last year having a ruck role…

considering him as my F2

    Sharkmove_King · 01/03/2019 at 16:15

    Lycett & Ryder both playing means he will no longer play in the ruck, but it also means he won't play as a deep forward.

    I expect him to roam well up the field and get plenty of the ball. It's a bit of an unknown at this stage if he can replicate (or beat) his average last year. I wouldn't criticize anyone who starts with him

    Josh · 01/03/2019 at 19:56

    im thinking of starting him as F2 and have a cheap ruck/fwd at F3 and starting grundy with a risky R2. mummy fort or clarke even. use the hoff as insurance if it all goes pear shaped..

    I like the hoff at F2 though he may roam the middle more this season..

Ja191 · 01/03/2019 at 16:35

Anybody know of any sites that I can stream the jlt games on? Don’t have Foxtel and would like to watch them

    Nice_Person · 01/03/2019 at 16:57

    Are you with telstra?

      Ja191 · 01/03/2019 at 17:18

      Optus

        Nice_Person · 01/03/2019 at 18:08

        Hmm you could get kayo sport 14 free day then cancel it

          Ja191 · 01/03/2019 at 18:29

          I’ll look into it, thanks wow

          AuroraBorealis?! · 01/03/2019 at 19:07

          Yeah kayo is very nice, i ended up just paying for it as i also want it for the a league. If optus didnt own the epl broadcasting rights it'd be even better

dontblushbaby · 01/03/2019 at 16:56

If you have a Telstra Account with your phone or iPad ? you can watch for free

    TRIGGA_HAPPY · 04/03/2019 at 18:04

    On tv rather than phone too.
    Nice one telstra

AuroraBorealis?! · 01/03/2019 at 19:27

Man i wish the commentators would stop talking about the grand final. yeah i get it we gave up a five goal lead, could you stop reminding me? I've already drank so much to try and forget and you're making it so much harder

    Russty_ · 01/03/2019 at 19:34

    Commiserations mate, at least you're not a Saints supporter though lol

      AuroraBorealis?! · 01/03/2019 at 20:40

      there's always a silver lining russty

        Russty_ · 01/03/2019 at 20:42

        Maybe in about 5 years mate…lol, good news is Jack Steven might be back sooner than later after a 10 day break from Footy, heard he doesn't want to miss any games so hopefully back before round 1.

    skindog · 01/03/2019 at 20:09

    Did Collingwont blow a 5 goal lead???

      AuroraBorealis?! · 01/03/2019 at 20:20

      God couldn't tell you mate

      gator59 · 01/03/2019 at 20:21

      Did they, Tell me more a 5 goal lead ….I must have missed that

        AuroraBorealis?! · 01/03/2019 at 20:41

        Yeah dont know where i was Gator, everytime i hear it it's like new information to me

          gator59 · 01/03/2019 at 21:10

          All good AB

    Mick · 02/03/2019 at 15:49

    As a saints supporter I don't know what a 5 goal lead is

      Russty_ · 02/03/2019 at 16:06

      We sure know how to miss 5 crucial Goals though Mick…lol

    Patch · 02/03/2019 at 20:25

    Sounds like that time Essendon had 12 players retire for a year, glad we've all moved on from thaht one though

      AuroraBorealis?! · 02/03/2019 at 22:38

      When did that ever happen Patch? Can't seem to recall

Nice_Person · 01/03/2019 at 19:43

Yeo looks slow too. A good pre season is key

Rick Grimes · 01/03/2019 at 19:46

Sheesh, Menegola, zero touches. Is he even out there?

    Russty_ · 01/03/2019 at 20:10

    Yeah he's there Rick, on the board now.

    Nice_Person · 01/03/2019 at 20:20

    He played 5 mins that half

BlueBaggerJosh · 01/03/2019 at 19:50

Parfitt at F3 too risky?

    Nice_Person · 01/03/2019 at 20:29

    Nope

    kevdup · 02/03/2019 at 12:39

    yes. 1 good game, 3 bad games, would not consider

Sixtybloody6 · 01/03/2019 at 19:58

Anyone that says the new kick in rule will have no effect has no idea. Will boost avgs no doubt. Before anyone goes on about only 3300 points a game, yes that is correct it is the same amount allocated. Difference is the cream will rise higher to the top and the spuds will dive further into the ground.

    skindog · 01/03/2019 at 20:04

    Spot ON 66

      skindog · 01/03/2019 at 20:05

      im actually liking these new rules, but bring back the bump,

    Russty_ · 01/03/2019 at 20:20

    Depends on if they can hit a target or not, No points for an ineffective disposal… I think it'll take half a dozen games at least to be able to tell the difference.
    If someone like Ryan who hardly ever played on last year plays on say 30 to 40% more this year, it could make a big difference in his score.
    The guys who already played on a lot, it might not make much difference at all, because they were already earning points for what they were already doing.

      gator59 · 01/03/2019 at 20:25

      Only have to watch Stewart.. Doing it to perfection from the kick out

        Russty_ · 01/03/2019 at 20:47

        I like Stewart Gat…I think he can lift his average this year to something significant.

Rick Grimes · 01/03/2019 at 20:09

Jordan Clark, $144k, looks real good prospect. Getting plenty of it.

    Russty_ · 01/03/2019 at 20:11

    Yeah I thought he was messed up from a bout of Glandular Fever but he seems to be all good.

    JohnDJ59 · 01/03/2019 at 20:54

    I had him in my team at one stage, but heard he had a setback, might have to look at him again.

      Nice_Person · 01/03/2019 at 21:30

      Prefer Watson at 123

        JohnDJ59 · 01/03/2019 at 22:19

        I just put Watson on my def bench.

BadgerHoney7 · 01/03/2019 at 20:15

Forts been… interesting

    Nice_Person · 01/03/2019 at 20:20

    Real strong r2…

    Russty_ · 01/03/2019 at 20:23

    Write him off, if Stanley is still number 1 Ruck, if Stanley goes down he could be a chance.

    TOPHAWK1 · 01/03/2019 at 20:23

    Fort better get the blinkers off. If he keeps this up, he will not be in my side. Zac Clarke way ahead of him at the minute.

      gator59 · 01/03/2019 at 20:26

      Agreed Toppa

        neil demons delight · 01/03/2019 at 21:30

        Hi Gat am i in any drafts with you .I remember one where you were no 4 and i was 10 but cant find it I am in finns thanks

          gator59 · 01/03/2019 at 21:52

          Don't know what's going on there mate… The league we were in has gone… I'm stuck in some other league that I didn't enter

            neil demons delight · 01/03/2019 at 22:00

            wonder where I went cant find it

              gator59 · 01/03/2019 at 22:09

              Who else was in it and see if they can get onto it

gator59 · 01/03/2019 at 20:15

Like the look of Watson for WCE… 123k rookie

    Nice_Person · 01/03/2019 at 20:20

    Yeah he's been class

    TOPHAWK1 · 01/03/2019 at 20:28

    Yeah. He does look very impressive. Hope he can keep it up.

    Whitey · 01/03/2019 at 21:48

    10 tackles, coaches love that stuff, will get you games.

TOPHAWK1 · 01/03/2019 at 20:27

Put a line through Petrucelle folks. Still looks like a skinny little runt and has done SFA. Maybe rename in "vermicelli"? Charlie Constable is impressing me as well as Watson.

skindog · 01/03/2019 at 20:33

some good rooks, going to come down to Rd1 selections as always, wish there were more dpp rooks, especially def/fwd.

skindog · 01/03/2019 at 20:36

Anybody use fanfooty for scores? i have for years but theyre not displaying atm?

    Russty_ · 01/03/2019 at 20:43

    Just Dreamteam, and not sc for some reason…who cares about DT ffs…lol

      skindog · 01/03/2019 at 20:51

      Agreed Russty, thought theyd be all over it?

      skindog · 01/03/2019 at 21:10

      mine is comung up with error?

    Lekdog · 02/03/2019 at 00:01

    HS have first priority during JLT from champion data. From my understanding FanFooty could get scores at the same time but it would cost them thousands of dollars 🙂

skindog · 01/03/2019 at 20:38

Watson looks really clever and poised,

    Whitey · 01/03/2019 at 21:54

    10 tackles too, things like that get you games.

BadgerHoney7 · 01/03/2019 at 21:11

anyone rate the new rule? i think i will wait until round 1 until i make a judgement. feel like atm they have way to much time with ball and not enough pressure

    skindog · 01/03/2019 at 21:12

    i like it Badge

Shaun · 01/03/2019 at 21:12

Is there any love for jack steele.

    skindog · 01/03/2019 at 21:54

    Not for me mate

skindog · 01/03/2019 at 21:13

Parfit is interesting me, wait till jlt 2

skindog · 01/03/2019 at 21:15

Sheed break out?

    JohnDJ59 · 01/03/2019 at 22:22

    Sure looks like it, continuing his form from the finals last year.

      skindog · 01/03/2019 at 23:02

      Yes sir DJ, i picked Oliver last season for the breakout,had him from rd1, Sheed and Halmes are on the massive watch list this year, both finished well and great PODs, if you have the stones?

        JohnDJ59 · 01/03/2019 at 23:10

        Yeah had Clarry the last two seasons, started him at M6 in 2017, one of the main reasons I had such a good year.

          skindog · 01/03/2019 at 23:29

          Any breakouts for you this season?

            JohnDJ59 · 01/03/2019 at 23:37

            Nothing jumping out at me at the moment, Cogs was a standout last year, but most people had him, I really don't mind Sheed, he would be a pod at M5 and save me 150k.

Lazza · 01/03/2019 at 21:18

Where do all these garbage reports come from saying players are injured and not up for R1?
Geelong has 2 on field tonight .. apparently Greene will play JLT2 and is fit and raring to go..
But in the paper today- Wingard to miss R1 with calf issues.

    skindog · 01/03/2019 at 21:26

    i dont get some of them either mate, maybe mind games????

    Russty_ · 01/03/2019 at 21:57

    I'm factoring Greene into my round 1 team…he's good to go, they're only being careful with him , hopefully the Karate Kid flog can pull his head in this year.

      Mick · 02/03/2019 at 15:52

      Yep slotted him into my team at that price.

skindog · 01/03/2019 at 21:19

Danger, untouchable, clearly in the back, play on,Duckwood all over again!!!!

Lazza · 01/03/2019 at 21:27

Those watching Gee vs WCS tonight will see a huge gap to Essendon and the Blues..
only be JLT1, but I might just place a bet on the Bombers missing the eight…. but I’m surprised by the odds.. only $2.30.. must be quite a crowd on it ..

skindog · 01/03/2019 at 21:28

Thinking Danger might be a lock?

    AuroraBorealis?! · 01/03/2019 at 21:40

    Lockiest lock in the history of supercoach i reckon, maybe even more than Ablett during the glory days

      skindog · 01/03/2019 at 21:44

      Right up there hey, beast, so good to have him up forward,

Lazza · 01/03/2019 at 21:39

I’m liking the look of Meiers, Constable and Petrucelle.. all in my team at present … Clarke and Atkins look good too.. be interesting to see their SC scores.
I’m also thinking Parfitt could be the big mover up FWD. Hurn might have to be considered for D3. I currently have Crisp at D3.
Note: Majority of kick ins were outside the goal square..

    skindog · 01/03/2019 at 21:46

    love Hurn mate, had him last two seasons, pretty consistent

BadgerHoney7 · 01/03/2019 at 22:00

dom sheed pod?

    BadgerHoney7 · 01/03/2019 at 22:00

    better value then worpel at the same price surely

      BadgerHoney7 · 01/03/2019 at 22:03

      plus finished finals with 130,105,116

    JohnDJ59 · 01/03/2019 at 22:03

    Very tempting.

      BadgerHoney7 · 01/03/2019 at 22:04

      you'd have to have a look, breakout contender for mine, just can't fit him in

        dontblushbaby · 01/03/2019 at 22:07

        Wish he was a FWD, MID only

          BadgerHoney7 · 01/03/2019 at 22:12

          would be huge if he was

        JohnDJ59 · 01/03/2019 at 22:14

        I'd be happy having him at M5, since I'm not set on that spot just yet.

    skindog · 01/03/2019 at 22:12

    Said that above, Breakout, but no respnse? musn't be be i the click group???

      BadgerHoney7 · 01/03/2019 at 22:21

      sorry skindog, didn't see that one, my apologies.

        skindog · 01/03/2019 at 22:59

        Al good bro, ive had a couple hahahahahahahahaha

Josh · 01/03/2019 at 22:00

F Watson played well 123,900 def with 17d 10t for the game

    dontblushbaby · 01/03/2019 at 22:10

    Yep ,def pressure is excellent with 10 tackles tonight , have him on my Def bench

    Realist · 01/03/2019 at 23:34

    Going to struggle to get a spot come round 1, could make good coin if he does though

Tyruddanaut · 01/03/2019 at 22:05

I only watched parts of the WCEGEE game and do I like Parfitt!!! My general rule is against choosing players I haven’t considered prior to JLT though, bar rookies.
I brought in Duncan and Memegola last week for a couple switches here and there, and I still like it

dontblushbaby · 01/03/2019 at 22:08

Those who have Fort a R2 will be looking elsewhere

    skindog · 01/03/2019 at 22:14

    100% mate, extra coin into Clarke, which isnt much

      dontblushbaby · 01/03/2019 at 22:33

      Not sure about that ,especially when TBC comes back

        skindog · 01/03/2019 at 22:46

        For the extra little bit of coin, could be a much better pick than Fort or Street?

BadgerHoney7 · 01/03/2019 at 22:16

scores have just came out on herald, but you need a membership. if anyone has it and does a bit of copy and paste job?

    skindog · 01/03/2019 at 22:20

    Sheed 144

      skindog · 01/03/2019 at 22:22

      Danger 129

    Russty_ · 01/03/2019 at 22:23

    Here ya go mate

    WEST COAST EAGLES
    Dom Sheed 144

    Shannon Hurn 111

    Jack Darling 101

    Thomas Cole 99

    Elliot Yeo 91

    Oscar Allen 86

    Jack Redden 85

    Daniel Venables 80

    Brad Sheppard 80

    Liam Ryan 77

    Liam Duggan 76

    Francis Watson76

    Chris Masten 75

    Mark Hutchings 74

    Andrew Gaff 67

    Tom Hickey 59

    Tom Barrass 59

    Lewis Jetta 58

    Luke Shuey 44

    Jack Petruccelle 43

    Jarrod Brander 42

    Nathan Vardy 41

    Willie Rioli 40

    Jarrod Cameron 38

    Jeremy McGovern 35

    Jake Waterman 29

    GEELONG
    Patrick Dangerfield 129

    Mitch Duncan 107

    Charlie Constable 92

    Brandan Parfitt 89

    Jordan Clark 87

    Cameron Guthrie 83

    Tom Stewart 81

    Joel Selwood 78

    Sam Menegola 76

    Zach Guthrie 71

    Rhys Stanley 70

    Tom Atkins 69

    Mark Blicavs 59

    Luke Dahlhaus 58

    Gryan Miers 54

    Quinton Narkle 46

    Tim Kelly 43

    Esava Ratugolea 38

    Gary Rohan 33

    Lachie Henderson 32

    Jack Henry 28

    Mark O’Connor 28

    Darcy Fort 21

    Jake Kolodjashnij 11

    Harry Taylor 9

      BadgerHoney7 · 01/03/2019 at 22:26

      legend

      skindog · 01/03/2019 at 22:29

      Your quick rusty

      dontblushbaby · 01/03/2019 at 22:39

      FYi – Menegola & Jelwood only played half a game

Skindog · 01/03/2019 at 22:27

91

Russty_ · 01/03/2019 at 22:27

No worries mate, HS couldn't seem to compact it anymore than that…dumbasses lol

    JohnDJ59 · 01/03/2019 at 22:30

    If Sheed has another good one before the start of the real stuff, I might have to consider him for M5, save about 150k.

      skindog · 01/03/2019 at 22:48

      looked great,id make that call too

Maverick_ · 01/03/2019 at 22:49

Once Bellchambers is back for Essendon Clarke becomes irrelevant & fort was ordinary tonight. A captain loophole R3 with fwd swing is becoming an option with westhoff in the fwd line. Play English/Mummy as my R2.

Or I just save myself the headache and lock in the two Gs.

    neil demons delight · 01/03/2019 at 23:16

    yep Mav that's what i did Grawndy/ pines with Westhoff Good captain's loophole till byes the only two bad rounds are 9 and 13.and Martin /Macrae are available those weeks -perfect

    skindog · 01/03/2019 at 23:33

    Set and forget i think Mav, great balls of fire,

    JohnDJ59 · 02/03/2019 at 12:05

    Hi Maverick, I've had the Grundy/Gawn combo for my team for a while now, but if English goes alright in the JLT and Westhoff is still scoring well, I would consider it.

skindog · 01/03/2019 at 22:52

Ive gone "Time to Reign" in the golden slipper, into Walsh for Rising star, into the Tigers for the premiership,

    skindog · 01/03/2019 at 22:58

    Why did your post get deleted Russty??

      JohnDJ59 · 01/03/2019 at 23:24

      If it was about gambling, that could be a reason. I had a tab sportsbet account for just under twenty years, so I know how addictive it can be.

        skindog · 01/03/2019 at 23:27

        Oh righto

        Russty_ · 01/03/2019 at 23:34

        No nothing about gambling John, I just asked if anyone was considering Shuey as an option, only played half the game and scored pretty well, and being the norm smith medalist from the GF…I just deleted it cause I thought no one responded,
        I'm having some computer issues lately, I'm on some kind of serious lag at times.

          JohnDJ59 · 01/03/2019 at 23:44

          OK, Russty, I looked at it a bit better and saw it was deleted by the user, I was just going on what skindog said in his post.

          skindog · 01/03/2019 at 23:57

          thought you mentioned the Coleman medal??

            Russty_ · 02/03/2019 at 00:05

            Nope just that Shuey was the Norm Smith medalist.
            Nothing to do with gambling.

              skindog · 02/03/2019 at 00:14

              all good to me

skindog · 01/03/2019 at 23:06

Whats goin on boys? its friday night, good time for a decent chat without anyone having a dig at each othrer??

    skindog · 01/03/2019 at 23:35

    i must be getting old

    Russty_ · 01/03/2019 at 23:41

    Dude, go over to the 'Start your season right' thread and then the 'Mitch Duncan' review thread and tell me if those comments are by you…or which one is you?
    It's confusing to say the least…if someone's impersonating you, you need to bring it to the attention of admin.
    The confusing thing is, you don't seem to be acknowledging it.

      skindog · 02/03/2019 at 00:00

      Mate i couldnt care, dont know what the deal is, but just wanted a chat, youve been answering my others? so no hostility hey??

        Russty_ · 02/03/2019 at 00:02

        No hostility skindog, I'd just like an answer because one of you seems to be a good bloke and the other one isn't, have you seen those posts for yourself? What gives?
        I just want a chat too, but I'd like to know who I'm talking to, your avoidance of the questions is suspect.
        If you have nothing to hide, just answer the questions.

    Maverick_ · 02/03/2019 at 08:29

    Yeah I don’t think anybody wants to talk to you skindog til we know which one we are talking too. If there is someone impersonating you you’ve got to make it known because at the moment I haven’t much interest in communicating with ya after the other nights rants.
    And if it was you then you need to sort ya mood swings out ASAP mate. Cause one day your great to have around then the next your off ya head…
    Not the first time we’ve had impersonators just ask WoW

      Nice_Person · 02/03/2019 at 09:23

      Yeah just make an account skindog

        skindog · 02/03/2019 at 17:49

        Cheers for that boys, now i feel like crap!

          Russty_ · 02/03/2019 at 17:53

          No one was wanting to make you feel like crap skindog….why don't you just make an intense debate account?…clear up the confusion mate.

            skindog · 02/03/2019 at 17:56

            Mate im computer illiterate, have no idea how to do that??

              skindog · 02/03/2019 at 17:56

              Tips???

                Russty_ · 02/03/2019 at 18:21

                Just scroll to the bottom of the page skindog, click on intense debate, and select "create account"…and go from there.

                  skindog · 02/03/2019 at 18:22

                  Cheers

                    Russty_ · 02/03/2019 at 18:31

                    No worries, it you want to put a pic up, you need to go to the 'edit my Gravatar" part.

                  Hawk131415 · 02/03/2019 at 18:35

                  think ive done it right, but i Changed my name so no confusion hopefully? name is now Hawk131415,

                    Russty_ · 02/03/2019 at 18:37

                    Looks good Hawk, looks like you've done it…nice!
                    See if you can get a pic up now…if you want to.

                    Hawk131415 · 02/03/2019 at 18:42

                    Oh damn, i do that how?? sorry, im old school

      skindog · 02/03/2019 at 17:59

      Thanks mav

Northernsoul74 · 01/03/2019 at 23:09

Sadly any doggies fan could have told you that 12 months ago.

neil demons delight · 01/03/2019 at 23:17

Nothing like he was .Will find it tough

    skindog · 01/03/2019 at 23:31

    yea, thought he might have a new lease on life, seems not, shame,,,,

neil demons delight · 02/03/2019 at 00:03

Rookies are starting to appear as always If more mids appear it will make my M5 look better.

    Russty_ · 02/03/2019 at 00:15

    Are you putting Bailey in over Walsh Neil?

      skindog · 02/03/2019 at 00:21

      Walsh for me is a lock and i hate high priced rooks, but that kid is genuine

        Russty_ · 02/03/2019 at 00:30

        Yep agree skindog, he's the real deal orange peel 🙂

      neil demons delight · 02/03/2019 at 00:29

      Both mate Like skin i dont like high price rooks Weiters McCarthy Rayner Watts all great players but not for me.Walsh the exception. Zac still there .

skindog · 02/03/2019 at 00:09

seems a lot of guys like to have a dig at each other, i dont get it, have an opinion but dont put others down? ive said it a few times on here, guys just need to chill??

    skindog · 02/03/2019 at 00:12

    And i dont know how i stuffed that up Hahahaha, oh yes i do, ive had a couple hahahaha

neil demons delight · 02/03/2019 at 00:22

Is B crouch an option . Dont like injury affected players but he has had plenty of time to recover.Might be the better Crouch. In my team ATM

    Russty_ · 02/03/2019 at 00:33

    He's totally an option mate….he's my M6 at the moment, could be a killer sweet pick this year, just gotta hope his sticky tape holds together.

    skindog · 02/03/2019 at 00:35

    def an option neil, but one i wont be taking, really dont like the crows midfield, always something wong, Gibbs is more consistent and on the park more, but not a consistent scorer, but this game is about gettin that one pod that will set you above the rest, not saying hes a pod, but ,,,

      neil demons delight · 02/03/2019 at 00:41

      also have him at M5 zac 6 Walsh 7 The pods or breakouts make the difference but can bring you undone also. Roberton is my other mid pricer

    TOPHAWK1 · 02/03/2019 at 11:07

    Very much so Neil. I like the bloke. He has not forgotten how to play elite footy. Will be watching him in the next two JLT games. If he gets through them physically unscathed and gets plenty of the pill, he will be in my team. cheers

BadgerHoney7 · 02/03/2019 at 08:39

Alright I'm really struggling to have the balls to fit Sheed in last night so someone PLEASE tell me not to get into the JLT hype. But if he performs like that again surely its hard to pass.

This is my team before Sheeds game last night:
DEF: Lloyd, Sicily, Whitfield, Roberton, Clark, Watson (Hore, Wilkie)
MID: Cripps, Fyfe, Kelly, Neale, O'Meara, Walsh, Constable, Drew (Bewley, Gibbons, Hind)
RUCK: Grundy, Goldstein (Bines (loophole)
FWD: Danger, Heeney, Dunkley, Setterfield, McAdam, Parker (Cavarra, Schultz)

This is my team after that 39 disposal game last night:
DEF: Sicily, Whitfield, MILLS, COLLINS, Clark, Watson (Hore, Wilkie)
MID: Cripps, Fyfe, Kelly, Neale, O'Meara, SHEED, Walsh, Constable (Drew, Gibbons, Hind)
RUCK: Grundy, Goldstein (Bines (loophole)
FWD: Danger, Heeney, Dunkley, Setterfield, McAdam, Parker (Cavarra, Schultz)

So basically the main changes are Lloyd for Mills (could be Witherden) – Roberton for Collins and then Bewley for Sheed.

So the main question is will Sheed, Collins and Mills (WItherden) provide a better output then Lloyd, Roberton and Bewley – or am I going to audacious seeming I have one POD already in O'Meara.

    Nice_Person · 02/03/2019 at 09:22

    O'Meara and Sheed? Pass
    Don't over complicate your starting team and leave your self behind to begin with. Are O'Meara and Sheed going to contend for top 10?

      BadgerHoney7 · 02/03/2019 at 09:50

      I think JOM is. Sheed maybe.

        Nice_Person · 02/03/2019 at 10:35

        What makes you think JOM will? Just interested in what you've seen

          BadgerHoney7 · 02/03/2019 at 12:45

          Had 18 touches in a half verse Carlton the other day and dominated. Word coming from there that he’s primed for +5 touches this year

    Prizza · 02/03/2019 at 10:22

    Did Sheed have someone following him, good hit out but that is all it is and as far as top ten must agree with 66 ,Darling is the interesting one was the most improved player in the competition last season, throw in being a fitness fanatic and the fact he will relish the space or play deep and if defenders decide to peel off there will be someone like young Allen ready to make them pay, no Kennedy also early on, very tempting

      BadgerHoney7 · 02/03/2019 at 12:47

      Darling was in a few teams last year also so not bad.

    TOPHAWK1 · 02/03/2019 at 11:00

    It might be a bit premature to change your team structure that dramatically just to squeeze in Sheed. It was just a JLT hit out and Sheed is known to be notoriously inconsistent. Yes, he played well yesterday, and kicked last year's GF sealer, but I would not get to caught up with the Sheed hysteria until we see ongoing consistent performances from him. Just the way I see it Badger. Cheers mate.

      BadgerHoney7 · 02/03/2019 at 12:46

      That’s my exact feeling TopHawk. Just gonna track him at the moment and go safe with the first team

      BlueBaggerJosh · 02/03/2019 at 13:51

      Sheeds finals series was definitely not inconsistent, 4 tons and a few big ones at that, might have finally turned a corner but I'm scared that it is because of Gaff not playing at all in finals and his lack of game time in JLT

    JohnDJ59 · 02/03/2019 at 11:29

    Hi Badger, if you can do it just by swapping Lloyd for Mills/Witherden and then Bewley for Sheed then yes do it, otherwise no, the other way would be to swap O'Meara for Sheed, but by the sound of it you wouldn't want to do that.

      BadgerHoney7 · 02/03/2019 at 12:46

      Have thought about switching O’Meara for Sheed but I like O’Meara a lot

    Holty01 · 02/03/2019 at 13:47

    Be careful Badger. How much do you like JOM? To consider swapping him for someone who played 1 good JLT game makes me question the faith you have in him? As wow said, don’t try to over think it. I’ve seen sides on here with potentially 14 keepers, most however 13. I see yours has 11 with 3 potential breakout candidates. If the 3 fail, I see you playing a lot of catch up mate and using a lot of trades early. Remember, we can’t have them all.

GloryDays94 · 02/03/2019 at 14:08

Roberton crossed off the list. Doing stuff all and is playing more a key defender position…

    KeenButClueless · 02/03/2019 at 14:41

    With Carlisle out, it does look like that will be his role. Still cheap at 295k, but harder for him to reach 83-85 average needed to generate the 150k needed to be a worthwhile stepping stone. Roberton and Clarke both off already.

    Russty_ · 02/03/2019 at 16:15

    Reckon he still might be worth it GD, remember it's at Werribee on a 35 degree day, not a true indicator really, remember he's rusty and would just be hoping to get through it.

      JohnDJ59 · 02/03/2019 at 16:19

      Roberton is my D4 for now, unless three really good def rookies turn up.

      neil demons delight · 02/03/2019 at 17:08

      two Russty's heaven help us

        Russty_ · 02/03/2019 at 18:26

        lol

    Sixtybloody6 · 02/03/2019 at 17:06

    103 SC

      Holty01 · 02/03/2019 at 17:12

      Yeah. 21 touches 8 marks and 17 by foot. If that’s a bad day I’ll take that everyday of the week

        GloryDays94 · 02/03/2019 at 20:43

        Yeah but played a key defender role in the 1st half and St Kilda were better when he did that.. so he may not play rebound

Sharkmove_King · 02/03/2019 at 14:22

Thoughts on rookies so far? I know it's early days but I don't think too many are putting their hands up. Setterfield & Walsh look easily good enough to start on the field. Maybe Constable too, but no certainty to play Round 1 yet.

Apart from those 3 the rest either scored bad, or scored good with question marks surrounding whether they will get the opportunity come Round 1.

I don't want a guy in my 22 scoring less than 70 this year. And I don't want a player in the 30 averaging less than 60 (bar 1 loophole player). It could that I can't go with a pure GnR and have to throw a couple of extra mid priced players.

    GloryDays94 · 02/03/2019 at 14:26

    So far: Setterfield, Gibbons Walsh are all set and should play round 1.

    Clark, Constable and Watson are putting their hands up for Round 1.

    One Touch Wonder · 02/03/2019 at 14:29

    Big risk having more than 4 rookies on field to start season.

      The Ranger · 02/03/2019 at 14:58

      I generally start with about 7 or 8 One Touch.

      Holty01 · 02/03/2019 at 15:36

      Gee one touch. You must really have gone mid priced this year?

        One Touch Wonder · 02/03/2019 at 16:02

        Put my team up last week. Full of SHARK MOVES. 4 rookies only.

          Russty_ · 02/03/2019 at 16:42

          Interested to see how it works out for you mate. Keep us informed 🙂

          Holty01 · 02/03/2019 at 17:15

          Fair enough. Good luck with it mate

    KeenButClueless · 02/03/2019 at 15:01

    I think Parker might be a solid fwd option. Not sure if bench or onfield but I think we can put him on the list. McKay is a slow burn option in defence. Looks like is job security is reasonable with North’s injury list. Is s key position player but might fill a bench spot.

      JohnDJ59 · 02/03/2019 at 15:50

      Parker as been on my fwd bench from the start, hoping he is good enough to put on field.

    Russty_ · 02/03/2019 at 16:05

    Always seems to be 2 or 3 rookie duds Shark..unavoidable I think, but the less rookies you have, the better chance you have of that not happening I guess, then you'll have to worry about your midpricers.

    JohnDJ59 · 02/03/2019 at 17:39

    I'm going with three mid priced players in def, like you said Walsh and Setterfield are locks, Constable looked good enough to play round one, Parker from the Saints did enough and just at this moment Butters from port is putting his hand up for a round one start.

neil demons delight · 02/03/2019 at 14:31

anyone know how the waiver wire works

    Holty01 · 02/03/2019 at 15:33

    if it’s anything like nba fantasy, you have a order. A player gets put on the waiver wire when they are traded out. Person who selects last in the 1st round of draft will have first opportunity for someone who has been placed on the waiver wire. But make sure you pick a good player on the waiver wire as when you select them, you become last in the queue.
    Each league is setup differently. Players will come off waiver over a certain time. This won’t affect where you are positioned in the waiver queue if you draft them when not on waiver.
    Hope this makes sense.

neil demons delight · 02/03/2019 at 14:58

Hind and Wilkie need to do more How the Saints rue not going after Pruess with Wilkie now rucking Pierce injured.Steele looks a chance as does McMILLAN

    Russty_ · 02/03/2019 at 16:12

    They should've kepy MccEvoy if possible Neil..it's idiotic not to plan ahead for rucks.

Derek · 02/03/2019 at 16:17

4 mins into first quarter and Brodie is in my team

    Sixtybloody6 · 02/03/2019 at 17:07

    He is a really good player. Never avg over 93 I think but new rules 666 might be interesting if he stays on wing.

      Derek · 02/03/2019 at 17:37

      It is only JLT, but crows took a decent side. I just noticed how much the crows players were looking for him, even Laird passed to him a couple of times. 280 meters gained in 1st quarter is good SC points.

      Have rookie at D4 and going with 4 keepers in forwards, prefer the defence rookies, but Smith is definitely worth a look.

Sixtybloody6 · 02/03/2019 at 16:21

How do I fit McMillan and sheed in my team?

    Mick · 02/03/2019 at 16:30

    I smell a trap!

      Maverick_ · 02/03/2019 at 16:40

      he is being sarcastic mick…
      He knows jolly well they are traps

    Holty01 · 02/03/2019 at 16:52

    Lol

Holty01 · 02/03/2019 at 16:52

Hi all. How do you find what the % of ownership is on a player?

    JohnDJ59 · 02/03/2019 at 17:03

    When you trade a player and you then go to all the players, they have it there.

      Holty01 · 02/03/2019 at 17:11

      Thanks John

        JohnDJ59 · 02/03/2019 at 17:21

        Glad you understood it Holty, I wasn't sure how to explain it.

    Russty_ · 02/03/2019 at 17:47

    If you have gold Holty, just click on the player's name.

      JohnDJ59 · 02/03/2019 at 18:33

      You're spot on Russty, I never looked at that, only looked at the own% when I was trading a player.

    Nice_Person · 02/03/2019 at 18:23

    Sort by ownership

Inteldesign · 02/03/2019 at 17:08

Anyone interested in joining a cash league? 10 man comp with a $50 buy in. Contact [email protected]

BlueBaggerJosh · 02/03/2019 at 17:15

NORTH MELBOURNE V ST KILDA SCORES

ST KILDA

Jack Steele 117
Dylan Roberton 103
Jack Billings 100
Shane Savage 93
Jack Lonie 88
Sebastian Ross 86
Josh Bruce 73
Jimmy Webster 69
Tim Membrey 66
Paddy McCartin 65
Hunter Clark 65
Dean Kent 61
Matthew Parker 61
Jack Newnes 60
Jade Gresham 60
Jarryn Geary 57
Jack Sinclair 56
Nick Hind 52
Luke Dunstan 50
Nathan Brown 46
Ed Phillips 43
Darragh Joyce 43
Josh Battle 26
Callum Wilkie 26
Lewis Pierce 14
Ben Paton 13

NORTH MELBOURNE

Jamie Macmillan 136
Todd Goldstein 117
Paul Ahern 92
Marley Williams 88
Trent Dumont 83
Dom Tyson 82
Luke McDonald 79
Jasper Pittard 79
Jared Polec 79
Luke Davies-Uniacke 73
Tom Campbell 72
Shaun Higgins 67
Tom Murphy 66
Ben McKay 62
Ed Vickers-Willis 59
Bailey Scott 59
Shaun Atley 59
Jack Ziebell 53
Kayne Turner 51
Jy Simpkin 51
Nick Larkey 43
Cameron Zurhaar 42
Ben Brown 37
Mason Wood 36
Tarryn Thomas 31
Aaron Hall 16

    BlueBaggerJosh · 02/03/2019 at 17:21

    Roberton, Steele, Billings look like solid picks.
    Goldstein low TOG and scored well for people not taking Gawn.
    Parker and Hind a bit shaky in terms of scoring for rookies perhaps we have to look at expensive rookies such as LDU with 27 disposals alongside a Walsh.

    Russty_ · 02/03/2019 at 17:46

    Thanks for the stats Josh…Roberton not so bad after all, even if he has a lockdown role.

Sixtybloody6 · 02/03/2019 at 17:19

Sloane lock.

    Russty_ · 02/03/2019 at 17:48

    So you don't think he'll be a tagging target this year?

      Nice_Person · 02/03/2019 at 18:23

      Look at the space rust

      Sixtybloody6 · 02/03/2019 at 18:27

      Exactly Russty. Look at the space. The strong mids will own plus if there is a hold they will be rewarded. Never had an injury barr his foot last year. 114 avg in their premiership year. 2018 was a write off!!!!!

        Russty_ · 02/03/2019 at 18:33

        The new rules definitely open things up more for the mids and the forwards, which is good to see, means higher scoring games, maybe the fwds and mids will benefit more than the defence.

          Nice_Person · 02/03/2019 at 18:46

          Yeah Sloane will own

        Huh? · 02/03/2019 at 19:05

        What premiership?

          Russty_ · 02/03/2019 at 19:15

          I think he means 2017…they played in the grand final against the Tigers.

Holty01 · 02/03/2019 at 17:35

Sloane, please stop. Looks like my POD will no longer be a POD

    Derek · 02/03/2019 at 17:40

    I have MCrouch, but Sloane is also very good at football.

    JohnDJ59 · 02/03/2019 at 17:41

    We are talking about Sloane, I think he will stay a POD.

      Holty01 · 02/03/2019 at 17:51

      I can only hope

      skindog · 02/03/2019 at 17:52

      Sloane scares me, seems he is another injury prone bloke, gun footy player but misses when ive had him,

        Nice_Person · 02/03/2019 at 18:11

        How's he injury prone

          skindog · 02/03/2019 at 18:15

          When i had him i mean, he missed a few games and i said to self, self, no more, so ive never gone back to him,, only played 12 games last year!! not what i want in my side

            Nice_Person · 02/03/2019 at 18:22

            Yeah off a shit pre season look before that..
            He's a jet

              Russty_ · 02/03/2019 at 18:25

              Brad Crouch there's a pod, could be pretty risky though.

              Hawk131415 · 02/03/2019 at 18:48

              I know hes a jet Nice! but not for me,

    KeenButClueless · 02/03/2019 at 17:54

    I think the knock on Sloane is also his ability to score when tagged. He’s not going to get tagged in JLT, so not sure we can judge him on JLT form

      Nice_Person · 02/03/2019 at 18:12

      So much space this year

      Holty01 · 02/03/2019 at 18:21

      He will be Keen but he has been the oppositions target for about 5 years and apart from his injury plagued 2018, he has always averaged around 110. In the past, we haven’t started him because of the tag but he has been priced at 600k. Now at 525k, I’m happy for him to poop is pants sometimes if he still averages 110

      GloryDays94 · 02/03/2019 at 18:54

      Mate he won't get tagged easily with the new 666 rule

        KeenButClueless · 02/03/2019 at 19:31

        Good insight. Thanks. He might replace Crouch for me at M5. Bigger ceiling and the extra coin is handy.

          JohnDJ59 · 02/03/2019 at 19:58

          M.Crouch M5 locked for me.

Hawk131415 · 02/03/2019 at 18:43

And should i always be having to refresh the page to see new comments??

    Russty_ · 02/03/2019 at 18:46

    Click on your own account, go to dashboard, and click on picture….and yeah to see latest comments click on "last activity" at the top of the page.

      Hawk131415 · 02/03/2019 at 19:25

      Which page Russty? my account or this page??

        Russty_ · 02/03/2019 at 19:33

        To change your pic to one of your own saved pics, you go to dashboard and pictures, and select browse and then confirm..you have to wait a few minutes for it to load, and you have to crop it first but that's easy.
        To see the latest comments posted, go to the top of this page and click on "last activity"…in the red writing.

          Hawk131415 · 02/03/2019 at 19:53

          ledgend, thanks for all that man,,, think im sorted

            Russty_ · 02/03/2019 at 20:18

            No worries Hawk, hopefully that unwanted dag with drop off now you have your own identity 🙂

              Hawk131415 · 02/03/2019 at 20:20

              Yes sir, cheers man

BlueBaggerJosh · 02/03/2019 at 18:45

This Zak kid is really buttering my bread

Russty_ · 02/03/2019 at 18:48

Decent game this Adelaide Derby…can't wait for the next Sydney Derby, should be a real eye opener.

    GloryDays94 · 02/03/2019 at 18:53

    B.Smith and Sloane or Crouch are locks for me 👍

      Russty_ · 02/03/2019 at 18:56

      Yeah GD, hopefully these new rules mean less tagging in general…tagging sucks anyway. Takes away from the entertainment.

        GloryDays94 · 02/03/2019 at 19:01

        Won't be as easy to tag this year so I see Sloane going 110 average. Has a huge upside so worth the risk at the price.

      BlueBaggerJosh · 02/03/2019 at 19:29

      Which crouch? Or both 😜

        Sharkmove_King · 02/03/2019 at 20:16

        Matt I think

          BlueBaggerJosh · 02/03/2019 at 20:17

          Ill be taking a punt on Brad

GloryDays94 · 02/03/2019 at 18:55

Sloane and Smith 🔒 for me

Sharkmove_King · 02/03/2019 at 19:09

Is Luke Meadows going to be drafted? Is there a cutoff date? Because im getting so desperate I've put W.Golds into M8 pretending that he's Meadows

    BlueBaggerJosh · 02/03/2019 at 19:28

    I think cutoff date is march 12th

Russty_ · 02/03/2019 at 19:10

Hoping Heeney and Williams dominate this game, and Blakey makes a good showing. Time for Heeney to go up a level.
Which Swans and Giants do you have in your side?

    Ja191 · 02/03/2019 at 19:40

    lloyd, williams, kelly and heeney currently. Will be interesting to see how williams and blakey go, hbu rusty?

    JohnDJ59 · 02/03/2019 at 19:50

    Only Mills and Heeney at the moment, I did have Williams, but replaced him with Roberton, still open to having Williams back if he goes well tonight.

Hawk131415 · 02/03/2019 at 19:15

Welcome, lets get this party started

BlueBaggerJosh · 02/03/2019 at 19:33

FULL SUPERCOACH SCORES
ADELAIDE

Brad Crouch 118

Matt Crouch 110

Brodie Smith 103

Tom Doedee 95

Rory Laird 94

Jake Kelly 94

Rory Atkins 89

Rory Sloane 88

Paul Seedsman 79

Eddie Betts 78

Wayne Milera 76

Tom Lynch 71

Cameron Ellis-Yolmen 71

Taylor Walker 68

Josh Jenkins 59

Darcy Fogarty 57

Richard Douglas 54

Sam Jacobs 54

Andy Otten 53

Riley Knight 45

Kyle Hartigan 44

Alex Keath 44

Lachlan Murphy 42

Chayce Jones 36

Reilly O’Brien 34

Myles Poholke 28

PORT ADELAIDE

Zak Butters 91

Travis Boak 81

Steven Motlop 81

Dan Houston 79

Paddy Ryder 78

Willem Drew 77

Jarrod Lienert 77

Ryan Burton 75

Brad Ebert 74
Sam Powell-Pepper 71

Jack Watts 63

Scott Lycett 58

Sam Mayes 57

Robbie Gray 55

Justin Westhoff 54

Karl Amon 52

Tom Rockliff 49

Riley Bonner 46

Todd Marshall 43

Tom Clurey 42

Connor Rozee 41

Xavier Duursma 40

Sam Gray 39

Tom Jonas 38

Darcy Byrne-Jones 35

Dougal Howard 22

    Russty_ · 02/03/2019 at 19:36

    Thanks Josh, Rozee, pretty disappointing, not worth 189k…Smith and Roberton both 103, that's a bit of a dilemma lol.
    Brad Crouch is tempting!

      Dong · 02/03/2019 at 19:59

      Just swapped Crouches around

        BlueBaggerJosh · 02/03/2019 at 20:20

        Same Dong!

      BlueBaggerJosh · 02/03/2019 at 20:25

      That little bit of coin that roberton offers is keeping me on his side atm. Smith hasnt been a premo for a long time unlike roberton also. Rozee definitely a no go, drew looked good though and much cheaper!

johnno2908 · 02/03/2019 at 19:57

Zac Williams 451m gained and 18 touches in only 28 minutes of game time so far. Geezus.

    Patch · 02/03/2019 at 20:23

    Hot dang, Johnno

KeenButClueless · 02/03/2019 at 20:04

Been a few observations about the extra time available to mids especially. Is it worth considering people who had a high handball to kick ratio which kept their score down? It might give a natural lift to a few.j

    Patch · 02/03/2019 at 20:23

    Depends – if it's someone like a Clayton Oliver who picks up lots of contested handballs, sure, but if it's someone on the outside, I probably wouldn't.

Russty_ · 02/03/2019 at 21:16

How many changes have you made in your sides since the JLT started?…I've done about half a dozen so far, could we be over-reacting?…lol

    Prizza · 02/03/2019 at 21:17

    No doubt rustinheimer

      Russty_ · 02/03/2019 at 21:23

      History shows that the JLT doesn't mean that much in the grand scheme of things but…it's hard not to get sucked in by the excitement of some of the scores.

    Hawk131415 · 02/03/2019 at 21:18

    Same, mainly rooks as they appear

      Hawk131415 · 02/03/2019 at 21:18

      or dont appear

      Russty_ · 02/03/2019 at 21:24

      Remember also Hawk, the rooks are playing for their careers, they could easily take their foot off the gas if they do earn a round 1 spot…it's hard.

        Hawk131415 · 02/03/2019 at 21:37

        Yeah i know mate, but have to at least get that rd1 nod

    Maverick_ · 02/03/2019 at 22:24

    brad crouch has weasled his way in my side..
    i'm Just asking for trouble aren't I haha

      Russty_ · 02/03/2019 at 22:28

      Same here Mav, there's something exciting and risky about picking someone like him….could be a boomer or buster lol

        AuroraBorealis?! · 02/03/2019 at 22:36

        Matt down to his brother Brad would mean either Goldstein up to Gawn or Roberton at d5 for me. Dont think i can do it though, his body is held together with duct tape and hope

          Derek · 02/03/2019 at 23:10

          Could be the Comiglio of this year.

          I’m staying with Matt. He is still exceptional value and looked at half pace today, Brad was trying his guts out

    Sharkmove_King · 02/03/2019 at 23:31

    I think it depends on the changes Russty. We've never seen rookies play before, so if you're changing your structures around to accommodate rookies that look better than you thought or taking out ones you thought were better, I don't think that's overreacting.

    But if you're putting in guys who were never on your radar, let's say Sheed, I think that's overreacting.

    If a player who was injured last year was high on your watchlist and you wanted to see how they were moving, let's say Sloane, and you've put them in now…not overreacting.

    If you've taken out a player who never plays well in JLT, but manages premium numbers year after year, let's say Simpson… overreacting.

      Russty_ · 02/03/2019 at 23:50

      Hey Shark, yeah it's more about the rookies for me, although JLT is still a poor indicator of future form, we have to reign in our excitement at this time of year I think.

Russty_ · 02/03/2019 at 21:27

Timmeh!….Liking Timmy Taranto's game tonight…can he breakout to become an Oliver-like premo this year?

    Ja191 · 02/03/2019 at 21:36

    Remember kelly isn’t playing

      Russty_ · 02/03/2019 at 21:42

      Yeah still liking his numbers JA…will be mostly midfield this year I've read. 33 disposals, shows that he wants to be right in there in the thick of it.
      He's a breakout or bust option really, a keeper or a failure…..needs to exceed his price with his output, otherwise he's a loss.

    GloryDays94 · 02/03/2019 at 21:36

    Yes! It will happen

    Hawk131415 · 02/03/2019 at 21:38

    He's looking good, next jlt watch for me

Hawk131415 · 02/03/2019 at 21:45

Cogs with 34 touches, been in and out of my side????

    magic mullet · 02/03/2019 at 21:51

    I'm deciding between him or Treloar but cogs looked very nice

      Hawk131415 · 02/03/2019 at 22:06

      yes he did Magic, and Treloars Hammys worries me, id be looking at Beams??

        magic mullet · 02/03/2019 at 22:36

        nah my theory is that beams will play a lot more forward with there lack of options up there and his ability to kick bags of 5 while playing forward

    Russty_ · 02/03/2019 at 22:06

    Cogs looked great but I'm liking Timmeh more 🙂

neil demons delight · 02/03/2019 at 21:48

Russty or anyone how do we know when its our pick and how do we choose a player in the draft tomorrow

    Russty_ · 02/03/2019 at 22:04

    Not sure how we pick a draft player Neil but I'm sure it'll be pretty clear, it's Banzai rules as set by Finn…
    As far as I can see it's like this…..
    Banzai draft—
    1st round is in order, so you'll be 3rd.
    The order of selections reverses in round 2
    Stays the same in round 3
    And then continues as per the snake draft
    (Snake draft- the order of selections is reversed each round.)

    So…your order is number 3, be ready to pick your most wanted player when it's your turn, then you'll be number 7, then number 3 again, then it'll just keep reversing….3 and 7 repeating.

    Finn needs to get someone else in there though, there's only 9 players in a ten man draft team.

    You'll know when it's your pick because we'll be able to watch who's turn it is and who they picked and who's available mate.

      neil demons delight · 02/03/2019 at 22:17

      what do you press though First year mate

        Russty_ · 02/03/2019 at 22:23

        Just go into draft Neil..from the herald sun website….what do you press for what exactly?

          hedski · 03/03/2019 at 10:40

          Russty can I do the draft via the app or do I have to go thru HS website?

            Russty_ · 03/03/2019 at 15:12

            Couldn't tell you Hed, I only use my laptop for SC.

              hedski · 03/03/2019 at 16:30

              Cheers mate, found the spot on app, haven't had much of a look at it to be honest, I'll be winging it.

        Maverick_ · 02/03/2019 at 22:23

        If ya still don't have that 10th man come tomorrow i'm more than happy to jump in..
        Love the draft format of SC

        Just keep me in mind fellas

          Russty_ · 02/03/2019 at 22:25

          It's up to Finn Mav…but if he doesn't appear before tomorrow at 7 pm eastern time be prepared to jump in.
          I'll send you the code beforehand.

            Maverick_ · 02/03/2019 at 22:32

            no worries russty!
            cheers

      gator59 · 02/03/2019 at 23:03

      Hi Russty or Neil… I was in this draft league but I can't find it … Can you please check to see if i'm still part of this league

        JohnDJ59 · 02/03/2019 at 23:18

        You aren't there gator.

          gator59 · 02/03/2019 at 23:21

          I'm sure I was in this league JD and I've been put into some other league that I never even entered into

            JohnDJ59 · 02/03/2019 at 23:23

            766812

              gator59 · 02/03/2019 at 23:34

              Thanks JD I have joined again… I don't know what's going on,,, Neil had a problem too

            JohnDJ59 · 02/03/2019 at 23:24

            You were at the start.

            Russty_ · 02/03/2019 at 23:26

            Must've been some FK-up mate, get yer ass back in.

        Russty_ · 02/03/2019 at 23:21

        No you're not actually Gator…this is the 9 as it stands…….
        Shake n bake
        (david)
        1
        The UltraCheese
        (dion)
        2
        demonsdelight
        (neil)
        3
        Finnius' flyers
        (Fionn)
        4
        Blake's Hard Wick
        (Tom)
        5
        Pull da TRIGGA
        (Scott)
        6
        HowDoIDraft
        (Grayson)
        7
        Red Dogs
        (Russty)
        8
        Black Flag
        (John)
        9

        Get your ass back in there mate code is 766812….sorry MAV

          gator59 · 02/03/2019 at 23:36

          I have know idea why I was ousted and I've been entered into some other league that I didn't even join

            Russty_ · 02/03/2019 at 23:37

            All's well that ends well mate, at least you're in there now.

        neil demons delight · 02/03/2019 at 23:27

        you were gat with pick 4 i had 10 Dont know what happened

    Russty_ · 02/03/2019 at 23:34

    You're in there now Gator….Mav, maybe start another one with a draft time closer to the actual season start…I'd be happy to join.

      gator59 · 02/03/2019 at 23:41

      Yeah mate I'll let you blokes know when I do and Mav can join the new one I start up

        Maverick_ · 03/03/2019 at 16:38

        yeah i might start up another draft league if i do ill flick you guys the league code if yas want in

          gator59 · 03/03/2019 at 23:17

          Yeah if you could start one Mav that would great

    Shake_n_bake · 03/03/2019 at 17:08

    Looks like im going 1st! I know who l want to pick hope l dont stuff it it. Will something come l have to look out for?? And does it start right on 7.30??

      JohnDJ59 · 03/03/2019 at 17:25

      Hey Shake I just had a look and they have me 1st in the draft.

        Shake_n_bake · 03/03/2019 at 17:30

        Oh ok last time l looked it said l was 1st. But it does start right on 7.30??

          JohnDJ59 · 03/03/2019 at 17:45

          Russty is right 7.00pm

      Russty_ · 03/03/2019 at 17:30

      Make sure you're in the live draft part Shake..with the team with empty spaces.
      It says it's 7 pm not 7.30
      4PM WA time.

        Shake_n_bake · 03/03/2019 at 17:43

        Tnx Russty

Derek · 02/03/2019 at 21:49

Nic Nat would be liking the new centre bounce rules

    Russty_ · 02/03/2019 at 22:09

    Yeah Derek, he'd be grabbing it every chance he got and running off to kick a goal.

    Patch · 02/03/2019 at 23:02

    I cannot wait to see Big Maxy grab the ball out of the ruck and eat it whole before anyone has time to blink

Maverick_ · 02/03/2019 at 22:29

GWS
coniglio 147
taranto 140
whitfield 85
williams 80

SYDNEY
heeney 105
lloyd 99
Mills83

Just a few players i felt were relevant i'm sure full scores will be posted soon.

    magic mullet · 02/03/2019 at 22:37

    cogs is IN

      Maverick_ · 02/03/2019 at 22:42

      Taranto also looks the goods
      I think this is his year to really break out but will watch closely when kelly plays next match

    Russty_ · 02/03/2019 at 22:41

    Think that's Dreamteam scores Mav, sc scores are….and apologies for the space taken up!….
    GWS
    Stephen Coniglio 140

    Heath Shaw 128

    Tim Taranto 120

    Jackson Hately 101

    Daniel Lloyd 94

    Jeremy Cameron 94

    Lachie Whitfield 93

    Zac Williams 82

    Jye Caldwell 78

    Adam Kennedy 76

    Harry Perryman 74

    Callan Ward 67

    Brent Daniels 65

    Phil Davis 61

    Sam J. Reid 57

    Sam Taylor 55

    Dawson Simpson 53

    Brett Deledio 49

    Isaac Cumming 49

    Matt Buntine 48

    Matthew Flynn 44

    Matt de Boer 43

    Jeremy Finlayson 34

    Harry Himmelberg 31

    Aiden Bonar 24

    Lachlan Keeffe 23

    SYDNEY
    Callum Mills 106

    Isaac Heeney 104

    Callum Sinclair 99

    Harry Cunningham 86

    Luke Parker 84

    Colin O’Riordan 80

    Jake Lloyd 75

    Jackson Thurlow 73

    Lewis Melican 70

    Ryan Clarke 69

    Robbie Fox 67

    Josh P. Kennedy 65

    Aliir Aliir 60

    Jordan Dawson 60

    Oliver Florent 57

    George Hewett 56

    Tom Papley 50

    Dane Rampe 50

    Ben Ronke 43

    Justin McInerney 35

    Sam Reid 34

    Nick Blakey 31

    Will Hayward 29

    Toby Pink 20

    James Rose 12

    James Rowbottom 3

      Maverick_ · 02/03/2019 at 22:43

      ahhh my bad you are right russty, my apologies and thanks for the SC scores
      Can't believe the variation in SC and DT, HUGE.

        Russty_ · 02/03/2019 at 22:45

        No probs mate…stats guys are dragging their butts this year so far.

      Derek · 02/03/2019 at 23:03

      Williams 82 from 55% TOG

        Russty_ · 02/03/2019 at 23:43

        That's pretty encouraging Derek….would have to think he could've cracked a ton if he had 70 % tog or so.

Maverick_ · 02/03/2019 at 23:05

JLT is dangerous very easy to get carried away..
Taranto – was on the watchlist prior and now VERY close to M5. serious breakout contender will watch in JLT with kelly's return
BCrouch – got the call up after this afternoons heroics.
BSmith – flipping the coin on he and Newman for D4. watch JLT2
NNewman – currently holds the D4 spot after oozing class V essendon
JBillings – the burnman of 2018. (thank god i didnt get caught) TKelly lost his place and little Jack poaches his guernsey… for now

Boy am i in for a rough season if i get sucked in to too many of these blokes…

    Russty_ · 02/03/2019 at 23:17

    Don't get sucked into Billings Mav….remember, he plays for a team destined to get their asses kicked most weeks.

      Derek · 03/03/2019 at 12:58

      Petracca is a better option than Billings Will play more midfield this year. I won’t have either.

    GloryDays94 · 03/03/2019 at 07:48

    Smith was playing a Half Back/Wing position all game. Very damaging with that big boot of his also.

Maverick_ · 02/03/2019 at 23:52

TOG % for players:

GWS
Stephen Coniglio 82
Tim Taranto 82
Heath Shaw 78
Jeremy Cameron 73
Lachie Whitfield 86
Jye Caldwell 62
Zac Williams 53
Harry Perryman 84
Daniel Lloyd 71
Jackson Hately 66
Brett Deledio 41
Adam Kennedy 67
Sam J. Reid 77
Callan Ward 47
Brent Daniels 75
Sam Taylor 72
Isaac Cumming 39
Dawson Simpson 71
Jeremy Finlayson 72
Matt Buntine 59
Phil Davis 73
Matt de Boer 82
Matthew Flynn 65
Aiden Bonar 65
Lachlan Keeffe 75
Harry Himmelberg 83

SYDNEY
Isaac Heeney 72
Jake Lloyd 65
Callum Sinclair 80
Harry Cunningham 85
Callum Mills 73
Luke Parker 73
Josh P. Kennedy 79
Jordan Dawson 82
Jackson Thurlow 82
George Hewett 76
Oliver Florent 83
Ryan Clarke 69
Lewis Melican 76
Dane Rampe 78
Colin O’Riordan 88
Will Hayward 83
Robbie Fox 65
Tom Papley 80
Ben Ronke 84
Aliir Aliir 76
Sam Reid 59
Nick Blakey 68
Justin McInerney 25
Toby Pink 70
James Rose 12
James Rowbottom 13

    Russty_ · 03/03/2019 at 00:04

    Beauty Mav!….says to me if players get 80 %- ish time on ground we should expect 100 + points, in most cases when their disposal efficiency is ok,…which is understandable cause everyone needs a rest.

      Maverick_ · 03/03/2019 at 00:18

      Agreed mate..
      Whitfield has me worried.
      I didn’t get to watch the game do we know his job role? His TOG was high for his score of 93

Nice_Person · 03/03/2019 at 09:39

Did mills play mid?

    Sharkmove_King · 03/03/2019 at 10:25

    Yes. I seen him on a wing as fair bit and he also attended alot of centre bounces. Started slow, but worked into the game well. A ton from 70 odd game time not bad at all.

    dontblushbaby · 03/03/2019 at 10:27

    Yep, 18 disposals ( 8 contested ) ,3marks & 7 tackles -played 73 mins , started slow but got better as the game went on.

    He is still in my team but not convinced, B.Smith costs 90k less ?

      Nice_Person · 03/03/2019 at 10:37

      Mill could be a keeper if he's mid this year

        Maverick_ · 03/03/2019 at 10:46

        no way to really know though.
        We can't trust anything we see in JLT or that comes out of horses mouth..
        his burnt us before.

      Sharkmove_King · 03/03/2019 at 11:56

      He could average 100 if mid. Even the most optimistic of Smith owners would be happy with a 90 average. Also, Mills has a much better bye round. It's a big if though

        Nice_Person · 03/03/2019 at 12:04

        Id be starting Smith as stepping stone

          dontblushbaby · 03/03/2019 at 12:27

          So will you also start with Z.Williams ?

            Nice_Person · 03/03/2019 at 12:47

            At this stage yes, but if selected it would be as a keeper

    Ja191 · 03/03/2019 at 10:49

    He attended a game high 15 centre bounces

      Maverick_ · 03/03/2019 at 12:15

      does this every JLT though then round 1 comes and he's playing down back and stinking it up

hedski · 03/03/2019 at 10:42

Someone has jumped out of one of my leagues so there is a spot open if anyone wants it.
Code is 998045.

Hawk131415 · 03/03/2019 at 10:54

So i know this a bad idea, but with stuff all rooks in the fwd line, and more in mid and def, taking a chance on going a little deeper in fwd line and NOT go to M5 with premos, but another rook, more cash generation, massive risk, i always go at least 5 deep in mids but call me crazy, this could just work/???

    Nice_Person · 03/03/2019 at 10:58

    I'm going to call you crazy mate
    Slone is my M5
    Rookies will be there

      Hawk131415 · 03/03/2019 at 11:03

      Havent seen enough yet, i wont go through with it, dont have the stones to pull that off

        Nice_Person · 03/03/2019 at 11:39

        Also have libba m6 Walsh m7

          Hawk131415 · 03/03/2019 at 11:47

          I take it your fwds are shallow?

            Nice_Person · 03/03/2019 at 12:04

            Yeah but there are rookies that will play

              Hawk131415 · 03/03/2019 at 12:11

              Just going to F2??

                Nice_Person · 03/03/2019 at 12:15

                Nah Greene there now. If libba is no good I'll down him to a rookie and upgrade Greene

                  Hawk131415 · 03/03/2019 at 12:18

                  I'm steering clear of Green, he's not in full training yet anyway.

                    Derek · 03/03/2019 at 12:53

                    It’s either Greene if a keeper. There isn’t anyone else in the midPrice range that stands out.

                    Even Billings and Petracca are expensive.

                    Elliott I’m keeping an eye on.

                    I’ll look at F4, plus Setterfield and a cheap rookie.

                    M5 deep plus Walsh.

                    D3 deep. But Brodie is tempting at D4, will mean Goldy instead of Grundy.

                    Hawk131415 · 03/03/2019 at 13:06

                    yeah Derek, thats where i can not NOT have Grundy and Gawn, too many lost points for mine, which does make it hard on other lines, Ive gone M5 and walsh too, D3, F2 and Worpedo sitting there atm at f3, but not hppy with that,

      Maverick_ · 03/03/2019 at 13:36

      sloane 67% TOG for an 88 return…. very nice
      Will he get the tag again this year though NP?

        Holty01 · 03/03/2019 at 14:00

        Don’t think it matters Mav. At 525k this year, he is an absolute bargain.

          Maverick_ · 03/03/2019 at 14:09

          with matt crouch only 30k more and brad 100k less it's very tricky situation though holty..
          I'd take the crouches knowing sloanes inability to break a tag and there ability to match sloane anyway.

    Derek · 03/03/2019 at 12:47

    This time last year, most people were going to M6 and a few with Cogs at M7.

    It is the Grundy/Gawn effect, somewhere has to give.

    It gets tricky with 4 rookies in guts, you almost need a non-playing loophole option as a bit of rookie security. Rookies can start good but then give you a 30.

      Jack · 03/03/2019 at 15:53

      That’s not a bad idea, because you could loophole the 4 defenders too

        Jack · 03/03/2019 at 15:54

        4 rookies, not defenders…I need sleep

Mick · 03/03/2019 at 11:24

Anyone know what the go is with Stef Martin? I hear injured but no details?

    Maverick_ · 03/03/2019 at 12:26

    it's an ankle Mick.
    Unsure whether he will be right for round 1.
    Stay clear

Hawk131415 · 03/03/2019 at 13:30

Here we go, Moore of interest

    JohnDJ59 · 03/03/2019 at 13:51

    Put moore in my team last week at F5, was hoping for a good showing today.

      Hawk131415 · 03/03/2019 at 13:56

      Hard to tell today mate

Maverick_ · 03/03/2019 at 13:31

hawks JLT side almost irrelevant today. So many of there best 22 out going to be very hard to gauge anything.
Even worpel if he plays 90% mid and tons up will mean nothing as o'meara, chad, smith and shiels will all come back into the midfield rotation round 1. sicily named fwd pocket 0% chance that is the case come round 1, frustrating!

Thank god brissy are playing a better side and will comfotably beat the hawks today.
I Will be watching Ely smith, zorko, neale and witherden closely for brissy.

Anyone else SC relevant for either side?

    Hawk131415 · 03/03/2019 at 13:34

    Yeah impossible to gauge,and its wet!

    GloryDays94 · 03/03/2019 at 14:51

    Ohanrahan and Golds

Shaun · 03/03/2019 at 13:41

Jack steele is he worth the risk .would love people's thoughts on him?

    BlueBaggerJosh · 03/03/2019 at 15:00

    In my side

    Holty01 · 03/03/2019 at 15:24

    I’ve always thought highly of him. Finished last year well. He has a very friendly Supercoach game. I think he will be Supercoach relevant at some stage but will it be this year? That is the question I’m not sure of

AuroraBorealis?! · 03/03/2019 at 14:46

God Neale looks good, has the rd 13 bye as well which is essential for my structure, definitely high in considerations

    magic mullet · 03/03/2019 at 15:05

    won't get tagged aswell with Zorko in the team

    TOPHAWK1 · 03/03/2019 at 16:34

    Neale currently sits at M3 in my side. He ain't going nowhere. GUN.

      Shake_n_bake · 03/03/2019 at 16:59

      Hes been in my side to Hawk

Hawk131415 · 03/03/2019 at 14:47

This is a pointless game for us, hopefully the Hawks bring a more senior list into JLT2, and fanfooty doesnt have sc scores, only Fantasy

    Maverick_ · 03/03/2019 at 14:52

    very frustrating Hawk.
    Sicily playing deep in the fwd line is ridiculous.
    H&A starts he is back in defence 100%

      Hawk131415 · 03/03/2019 at 14:53

      I hope so Mav, thats where he he got AA

        Maverick_ · 03/03/2019 at 15:07

        he's just filling the void of gunston, bruest and co.
        looking at whose missing this game is purely trial and error for clarko.
        He's not swinging one of the most damaging defenders in the league fwd in 2019.
        He's still locked in at D1.

          Nice_Person · 03/03/2019 at 15:10

          What makes you so certain mav. I've seen at least three articles saying he will be swung at times. And him getting some practice time in there is just a coincidence??

            Hawk131415 · 03/03/2019 at 15:11

            I cant see Clarko moving his best defender

            Maverick_ · 03/03/2019 at 15:19

            I've seen an article or two as well but it won't be a regular thing far to damaging as a def..
            He may get swung forward for a quarter every now & then just not full games.
            If he starts forward JLT2 when clarko plays a close to full strength 22 then i'll be worried

GloryDays94 · 03/03/2019 at 14:50

Couple of Rookies 1 FWD and 1 bottom basement MID looking good for Hawthorn 👍

    hedski · 03/03/2019 at 15:00

    Keep your eye on Harrison Jones as well GD, listed as def but may play in the guts

      GloryDays94 · 03/03/2019 at 15:51

      Golds(102k Mid) looks good and same with Ohanrahan

    magic mullet · 03/03/2019 at 15:04

    harry jones whos a back only also looking nice

magic mullet · 03/03/2019 at 15:01

god James cousins looks very nice in the midfield looks very natural but prices at 219k so very awkward but if he tons up both games and lines up on round 1 i might have to consider, also apparently he has had one of the better hawthorn preseason and has been very good in scratch matches

    Maverick_ · 03/03/2019 at 15:13

    chad, smith shiels & o'meara to come back into that midfield rotation yet sassy.
    Don't read too much into the hawks game today.

      Nice_Person · 03/03/2019 at 16:14

      Don't see him playing anywhere else

      magic mullet · 03/03/2019 at 16:52

      he is around the same output as Walsh and at the same price and with him performing like that I believe it will give clarko a chance to put Wingard forward

    GloryDays94 · 03/03/2019 at 15:50

    Might be him or Walsh for most people

      Russty_ · 03/03/2019 at 17:35

      Or both?…imagine that haha

Jack · 03/03/2019 at 15:04

Damn! I’ve got Golds at M8 pretending that it’s Meadows, but I might have to start pretending it’s Golds

Hawk131415 · 03/03/2019 at 15:16

Cameon Hammy??

BlueBaggerJosh · 03/03/2019 at 16:19

80 DT points, 30% TOG, lock it in and throw away the key everybody Bastinac is taking the game by storm

Nice_Person · 03/03/2019 at 16:32

Sici is a pass to start for me. Too many mentions of him swinging and then a practice match running fwd. I know he's a jet defender but until I'm certain he's 100% he's a miss

    BlueBaggerJosh · 03/03/2019 at 16:39

    I currently have Hurn D1, too many doubts surrounding everyone else whether it be price or role.

    Maverick_ · 03/03/2019 at 16:40

    I'm still locking him in at D1 until I see how they line up JLT2 with a full strength side.
    If he starts fwd or even swings forward for moments its a pass.
    I just Don't know who else to play at D1.
    Lloyd is too expensive and Laird has that dreadful R14 bye.

      Nice_Person · 03/03/2019 at 16:45

      Surely you'd want laird in before rd 14

        Maverick_ · 03/03/2019 at 16:50

        yeah possibly but at a discounted price would be nice. hoping Smith can really hurt lairds output.
        Adelaide looked to want it in smiths hands yesty

    Hawk131415 · 03/03/2019 at 16:52

    D1 for me, he wont play that role in the season proper!

Russty_ · 03/03/2019 at 17:05

Does anyone know why Gawn isn't playing?…Jeez Oliver looks good too, looks like his Shoulder op went well.
Brayshaw looking good too…aaah too many choices!

    JohnDJ59 · 03/03/2019 at 17:06

    Playing the next game Russty, about half of our best 22 aren't playing against the Tigers.

      Russty_ · 03/03/2019 at 17:11

      Oh ok fair enough, I guess they wanted a look at Preuss, how's the fire situation mate…are they getting it under control?

        JohnDJ59 · 03/03/2019 at 17:20

        A bit scary, getting close to Drouin which is about about 10k from me in Warragul and people are evacuating from Drouin to Warragul, a lot of smoke in the sky, embers falling down.

          Russty_ · 03/03/2019 at 17:34

          Stay safe there John

    Maverick_ · 03/03/2019 at 17:18

    I can't lockdown an F3 but am intrigued by higgins.. is he set for an increase in midfield minutes where he played alot of rep footy and dominated?
    definately one i'm watching through JLT.
    Brayshaw also been in and out of my team through pre sesaon and looking the goods early.
    Oliver still handball heavy but the shoulders look good to go laid plenty of tackles early.

      JohnDJ59 · 03/03/2019 at 17:28

      Oliver at M2 for me at the moment, wanted to see how he went today before I locked him in. Brayshaw is one of three that I am looking at for my M5.

      magic mullet · 03/03/2019 at 17:29

      if you don't have Dunkley in you should consider him because he finished last season very well and i don't see his role changing but will have to watch the doggies play to be sure

JohnDJ59 · 03/03/2019 at 18:09

Bloody hell, Oliver is now locked at M2, he was already there, but I was waiting for conformation that his shoulders were alright.

    Hawk131415 · 03/03/2019 at 18:27

    Hes a beast, lock

    Russty_ · 03/03/2019 at 18:33

    Same here John…locked in, maybe Brayshaw too, he's turning into a beast.

      JohnDJ59 · 03/03/2019 at 18:37

      I have about three players I'm looking at for M5, Brayshaw is one of them, only thing against him is I don't like having more than one player from each team on a line.

        Russty_ · 03/03/2019 at 18:55

        Wouldn't let that stop you mate…I've got two in defence and 2 lots of 2 in the mids.

        Hawk131415 · 03/03/2019 at 19:35

        Im leaning on having both too after playing a quality side and both killing it!!

    Hawk131415 · 03/03/2019 at 19:00

    pick who you like and want, go with gut, i dont worry about byes as everyone is going to have the same problem, its a crap period, then its over,

JohnDJ59 · 03/03/2019 at 18:17

Witherden or Roberton in def, the 150k saved on Roberton would be handy.

    Russty_ · 03/03/2019 at 18:39

    Could you fit both in John?…Defence is midpricer heaven this year.

      JohnDJ59 · 03/03/2019 at 18:42

      I have Mills and Williams locked, I was only going with three mid priced players in defence.

Hawk131415 · 03/03/2019 at 18:30

Who the f is Noah Balta??? leading all sh#tmond players atm???

    Russty_ · 03/03/2019 at 18:38

    Looks a decent player, at 194 cm and 94 kg, he's got the AFL ready body, wonder if he'll get an opportunity early possibly until Lynch gets back. Any Tigers fans have any inside info on him?

      Hawk131415 · 03/03/2019 at 18:41

      looks good, but never heard of him??

      gator59 · 03/03/2019 at 20:53

      I've nicknamed him … The Rock of Gibalta

        Hawk131415 · 03/03/2019 at 20:55

        Hahahahahahaha, nice Gator

Russty_ · 03/03/2019 at 18:40

Not really fair from the Tigers having Batman playing out there lol

    Hawk131415 · 03/03/2019 at 18:48

    Meh, Batmans the Sh%#EST Superhero anyway lol

      Russty_ · 03/03/2019 at 18:52

      Nah that'd have to be Arrow wouldn't it?…a guy with a bow and arrow…lol

        Hawk131415 · 03/03/2019 at 18:55

        Hahahaha, up there together lol

AuroraBorealis?! · 03/03/2019 at 18:56

Almost draft time for Finns league fellas, good luck and try to be online so the process can run smoothly!

    JohnDJ59 · 03/03/2019 at 18:57

    No worries, heading there now.

      Russty_ · 03/03/2019 at 20:55

      Shame about the 60 second turnover time…fk'd me on one pick when it froze up.

BrownlowBoy · 03/03/2019 at 19:05

Gents make sure you're not in a draft league operating right now!

    Hawk131415 · 03/03/2019 at 19:15

    never been in one

    Hawk131415 · 03/03/2019 at 19:23

    why is that?

Hawk131415 · 03/03/2019 at 19:22

Brayshaw, WOW 144 with 2 mins to go?

    Hawk131415 · 03/03/2019 at 19:39

    150 off 69% game time? that cant be right??

      magic mullet · 03/03/2019 at 20:23

      we know with Brayshaw that 150 DT usually means closer to 120 supercoach, still great game though but the 13 turnovers weren't great

        Hawk131415 · 03/03/2019 at 20:39

        Yeah i know that but thats all i had to go off,

Hawk131415 · 03/03/2019 at 19:33

Really hope Libba kills this

Hawk131415 · 03/03/2019 at 19:43

Damn, Rankine, too easy

TOPHAWK1 · 03/03/2019 at 20:01

Burgess is a big boy!! He looks good. 2 goals already.

AuroraBorealis?! · 03/03/2019 at 20:51

Well the draft was fun, pretty happy with my team but to the bastard who took viney from me just as i was about to pick him, watch your back 😉

    Russty_ · 03/03/2019 at 20:53

    Lots of bastards in there AB….stole my team from me hahha…I ended up with a bunch of second string wannabes

      AuroraBorealis?! · 03/03/2019 at 20:58

      You've get a nice well rounded team there Russty, not sure about liam shiels in your last mid spot though

        Russty_ · 03/03/2019 at 21:00

        Sometimes ya gotta take what ya can get mate, I have a couple of injuries in there at the moment.

          AuroraBorealis?! · 03/03/2019 at 21:06

          Yeah thats fair Russty, later in on the draft you either take some relatively mediocre players or take a punt on some breakout contenders. I prioritized my midfield and defence so now i've gotta rely on Parfitt and SPS at F3-4, here's hoping they both get some more midfield time

        Russty_ · 03/03/2019 at 21:09

        Jeez you have to think on your feet don't ya though during a Live draft?…all the guys you want are snapped up, and you have to make a snap decision as to who is in ….from all the second stringers you didn't really want, but might be good….challenging.!

    gator59 · 03/03/2019 at 20:54

    That would be me AB

      AuroraBorealis?! · 03/03/2019 at 20:57

      Oh and you took o'meara from me as well, it just gets worse for you mate

    hedski · 03/03/2019 at 21:12

    First draft night for me AB, was interesting.
    Which team were you?
    Fairly happy with my side since I didn't have much of a clue what I was doing.
    The UltraCheese.

      Russty_ · 03/03/2019 at 21:26

      Were you there Hedski?….I see you ended up with Gawn, lucky prick, I had to take Goldy at pick 4 cause otherwise I would've ended up with a second string ruck.

        hedski · 04/03/2019 at 09:19

        Yeah I flew by the seat of my pants Russty, had a bit of paper on front of me with a few names on it, just tried to get the best players I could, I was using my phone, nearly got caught out a few times.

      AuroraBorealis?! · 03/03/2019 at 21:39

      Im "HowDoIDraft" Hedski, i'm a big fan of your squad actually, really strong

        hedski · 04/03/2019 at 09:22

        Don't mind your squad at all AB.
        Was thinking if grabbing Doch with my last pick but Trigga jumped on him so I grabbed Titch instead, hopefully he gets a gig later in the year.
        It's a keeper league anyway isn't it? If so I'll just hold him for next year.

          AuroraBorealis?! · 04/03/2019 at 09:27

          Ah, i completely forgot about the keeper aspect, I've got about 4-5 potential breakout contenders so hopefully they get better the more seasons they play. #ParfittForBrownlow 2020

    JohnDJ59 · 03/03/2019 at 21:23

    Having two in a row each time after my first pick, it was a bit hectic there a few times, I would be sitting there with my first player, then someone would take it just before me, so had to quickly find the second player I had lined up plus think about another one at the same time. If you were in the middle of the draft it would have been a lot better.

      Russty_ · 03/03/2019 at 21:31

      Yeah I found I was always missing out on the best picks john….had to end up settling for the next best rather than the best.

      AuroraBorealis?! · 03/03/2019 at 21:40

      I made a shortlist of 10-15 players per position on a word document (not including ruck), i found that it really helped, until all the players on there were picked and i was thrown in the deep end

        Russty_ · 03/03/2019 at 21:43

        Yeah Draft is a shitfest AB, at least you tried to bring some order to the chaos lol

          gator59 · 03/03/2019 at 21:57

          You gotta plan and once the starting pistol sounds it's a shotgun pick and try to be on your game.. Just pure luck some times

          If I start another league in the draft It'll be more hectic… Gunna start a league that has 22 players for your side

          neil demons delight · 03/03/2019 at 22:00

          Loads of fun though eh Russty

            Russty_ · 03/03/2019 at 22:11

            I'll let you know mate depending on how my team goes early on.

    Shake_n_bake · 04/03/2019 at 11:14

    I really wasn’t to happy going 10th in the draft! Think thats a bit hard. All the players l wrote down with my 1st 2 selections gone. But still liked the concept

    Shake_n_bake · 04/03/2019 at 11:19

    I really hope someone starts up another draft league! Im definitely in.

Hawk131415 · 03/03/2019 at 21:13

Libbas a no for me atm,,

    Russty_ · 03/03/2019 at 21:21

    18 disposals, 5 marks and 3 tackles and 1 goal isn't enough for you with almost 2 quarters to go?
    Why is he a no for you???

    Johnny · 03/03/2019 at 21:27

    His playing mid, body looks good that’s enough for me, nice stepping stone

      Russty_ · 03/03/2019 at 21:34

      Exactly Johnny…he's a frikkin bargain…I'd clone him if i could.

        Maverick_ · 03/03/2019 at 21:39

        Had him from day one n wasn't moving him til walsh dominated that praccy match v hawks and made the downgrade..
        Now unsure how i can get libba back in. Walsh has M6 locked in an don't think libba's good enough for M5, hmm!
        Looks very very good tonight

          Russty_ · 03/03/2019 at 21:48

          Find a way to get em both in Mav, I have…it ain't too hard.

            Maverick_ · 03/03/2019 at 21:54

            Libba at M5 or M6?
            I can make it happen with Libba at M6 walsh M7 but means making TKelly -> Greene.
            Not sure if that's wise russty

              Russty_ · 03/03/2019 at 22:22

              Greene will be there Mav…they're just being careful with him.

          KeenButClueless · 03/03/2019 at 21:49

          I have gone crazy. Libba M6, Cousins M7 and Walsh M8. Not the worst of the 10,000 versions of the team so far, and one I never saw coming.

            Russty_ · 03/03/2019 at 22:23

            That's not bad crazy though….maybe very good crazy.

    Hawk131415 · 03/03/2019 at 21:50

    haha, as soon as i posted he lifted, i went the early crow, my bad, does look good, started slow,

      neil demons delight · 03/03/2019 at 22:04

      hard to find a spot for him maybe go light in forwards

        Hawk131415 · 03/03/2019 at 22:14

        Nah man, stepping stone

          neil demons delight · 03/03/2019 at 22:48

          Great photo Hawk

            Russty_ · 03/03/2019 at 23:22

            That pic is mullet city.

              Skindog · 03/03/2019 at 23:53

              Yeah it is, hahaha, two of my idols as a kid

      Patch · 03/03/2019 at 22:49

      I did that with The Bont, we've all been there

Maverick_ · 03/03/2019 at 21:34

some extremely good mid price options down back bobbing up this season
Witherden Williams Newman Smith Roberton Short Houli mills.
I wouldn't scoff at anybody who selects 4 of them blokes this season and going a 1-4-1 setup at defence

    Russty_ · 03/03/2019 at 21:40

    I'm only selecting 1 premo…Laird, the rest are midpricers and rookies.

    KeenButClueless · 03/03/2019 at 23:46

    I am considering 4 mid pricers. Witherden Williams Smith and Roberton. Throwing a mid pricer at F4 really helps with the dearth of rookies. It even gives me a minimum of Libba and Walsh at M6 and M7. (Can even get Cousins in as well, but pulls M Crouch down to Sloane, no Clark at D5.) I think it might be worth the risk to chase the premium defenders later and hope that 2 of those 4 end up keepers.

TOPHAWK1 · 03/03/2019 at 21:41

Win or lose, Gold Coast are a disorganised rabble coached by Peppa pig.

There not a snowflake chance in hell I am going to invest in over priced rookies like Rankine, Collins, and Lukosius after watching that JLT effort tonight.

Plenty of better rookie value elsewhere.

Welcome.

    Russty_ · 03/03/2019 at 21:45

    Yeah rankine schmankine…rather go for someone like Balta.

      Maverick_ · 03/03/2019 at 21:51

      Collins should find himself in it a fair bit this year surely?
      Plenty of opportunity for him to do what he loves and rack them intercept marks up.

        Tommy · 03/03/2019 at 22:24

        Collins will be this years doedee

          Hawk131415 · 03/03/2019 at 22:30

          No way, no where near it, id steer clear

        Patch · 03/03/2019 at 22:49

        Collins looked really good. As I said here (sneaky plug http://www.jockreynolds.com.au/2019/03/03/gold-co… he'll have his really rough games but I reckon it'll be worth it

          TOPHAWK1 · 04/03/2019 at 12:27

          Collins probably deserves the benefit of the doubt after last night. I was a bit harsh on him. He has huge upside. No doubt about that.

AuroraBorealis?! · 03/03/2019 at 21:46

Looks like im going to have to pick 2 out of Oliver, Neale and Macrae at this stage, how can anyone possibly separate them? I suppose you'll want all three of these players in you team come the end of the year but who's going to hurt the most to miss out on until the byes?

    Russty_ · 03/03/2019 at 21:52

    I've got all 3 and my team's not hurting too much…I reckon just deal with byes as they come, if you have a solid team before the byes, you can save trades and then go 3-3-3 if you need to.

      AuroraBorealis?! · 03/03/2019 at 22:04

      The only way for me to fit all 3 of them in is to downgrade gawn to Goldstein, i'll make that call after i see JLT2 and how preuss is effecting him

        Hawk131415 · 03/03/2019 at 22:12

        i have 2 of them and Gawn and Grundy, could have all three but lets down other lines,

        Russty_ · 03/03/2019 at 22:14

        Yeah AB….Gawn to Goldstein, that's me.

          Maverick_ · 03/03/2019 at 22:18

          If macrae pulls out another game like this in JLT I won’t have a choice but too get him!
          And put $100 on him for the Brownlow.

    Derek · 03/03/2019 at 23:25

    Do you have Cripps as well?

      AuroraBorealis?! · 04/03/2019 at 08:50

      Crippa is locked and loaded at M2 Derek, as of now i've decided to go with Macrae and Oliver

    JohnDJ59 · 03/03/2019 at 23:28

    Only one for me, Oliver at M2.

    KeenButClueless · 03/03/2019 at 23:36

    I have Cripps Oliver Neale Dusty and M Crouch. Feels strong on one hand, but not having MacRae worries me. But I would rather compromise MacRae down to Dusty or M Crouch than Gawn down to Goldy. I understand the logic for doing so, but unless I have a genuine stepping stone R2 or Ruck Forward DPP that was a keeper for the forwards that I would start at R2, I feel Grundy Gawn is the right answer. I just can’t find that other option.

      Maverick_ · 04/03/2019 at 08:21

      Simple….. Goldy!

Hawk131415 · 03/03/2019 at 21:56

Iv'e got a sneaky POD ive been looking at, and hes had a good game

    Maverick_ · 03/03/2019 at 21:58

    Yeah Wallis has been pretty good tonight 😉

      Hawk131415 · 03/03/2019 at 22:02

      Who??

        Hawk131415 · 03/03/2019 at 22:04

        Wallis? yeah nah, incosistent

    BlueBaggerJosh · 03/03/2019 at 22:06

    Always HUNTING for a POD Hawk

      Hawk131415 · 03/03/2019 at 22:09

      Damn you boys are good! hahaha

        Hawk131415 · 03/03/2019 at 22:09

        Wheres Cavarra??

          Hawk131415 · 03/03/2019 at 22:15

          And its not a dog??

            Maverick_ · 03/03/2019 at 22:17

            No one been relevant for GC tonight. That’s why we guessed dogs haha

              Hawk131415 · 03/03/2019 at 22:33

              i didnt say it was tonight's game!

                Patch · 03/03/2019 at 22:48

                Playing hard to get I see 😉

                  Skindog · 03/03/2019 at 23:51

                  Hard to want Patch, lol, wouldn’t be a pod if I told everyone, ???

Derek · 03/03/2019 at 22:40

We have a Rookie Crisis

    Patch · 03/03/2019 at 22:47

    Even the expensive Gold Coast rookies weren't any good! This will be dissected on the podcast tomorrow, no doubt

    KeenButClueless · 03/03/2019 at 23:08

    I have gone 4 deep in defence. I think Clark can be D5 and hopefully Watson D6. Jones and Hore for the bench. Not sure about the JS of any of them. The only one with JS is McKay, but he’s not going to make huge cash. Duursma still worth a look and maybe Quaynor

    For the mids, Walsh and I Guess Cousins at a similar price. Butters and Caldwell look like they will play, but all are expensive. For the bench, I think Constable and Gibbons can sit there. Hind Scott or Hayes might also get there.

    For the forwards I have also gone 4 deep. Setterfield at F5. Have Drew at F6, but how many Port rookies are really going to get games? Parker is a firm F7. At the moment I am running Bines at F8 and Fort at R3 so I can swing my floating donut into R3 when I cash in Fort. I can also loophole Drew and Parker.

    We are blessed to have so many mid priced options in defence so we can have the higher priced rookies and maybe a stepping stone

      gator59 · 03/03/2019 at 23:43

      I'm not so sure Fort will even get another gig after the performance that he gave against WC…I can't see him being a cash generator

        KeenButClueless · 03/03/2019 at 23:53

        You might well be right Gator. I like to run a Loophole DPP Rookie in R3 and have a DPP like Lobb etc in the forwards, even if they end up as F7. But a better option is to have rookie ruck cover so cash is being generated. If Fort is not going to get a gig, I will need to revisit the Ruck Forward options. Westhoff, Lobb, Lycett, Ceglar and Vardy. Gee, struggling to pick any of them.

    One Touch Wonder · 03/03/2019 at 23:24

    I said last week anyone with more than 4 on field rookies will struggle.

      Nice_Person · 04/03/2019 at 07:24

      That's still silly

      GloryDays94 · 04/03/2019 at 08:47

      So instead pick a heap of guys who could turn out as total flops or get injured again? Sounds great!

    Derek · 04/03/2019 at 11:26

    Maybe we don't.

    Who are locks for round 1?

    Who are likely?

    Walsh
    Jordon Clark
    Connor Rozee
    Jack Petruccelle
    Xavier Duursma
    Chris Burgess
    Ben McKay
    Josh Corbett
    Griffin Logue
    Francis Watson
    Will Setterfield
    Tom Williamson
    Sam Collins
    Marty Hore
    Callum Wilkie
    Isaac Quaynor
    Michael Gibbons
    Nick Hind
    Joe Atley
    Liam Stocker
    Brett Bewley
    Zac Butters
    Izak Rankine
    Jye Caldwell
    Jackson Hately
    Noah Balta
    Darcy Fort
    Ben Cavarra
    Matt Parker
    Nick Blakey
    Bailey Smith
    Luke Davies-Uniacke
    Jack Ross
    Luke Valente
    Ely Smith
    Jye Caldwell
    Will Golds
    Oliver Hanrahan
    Jack Scrimshaw
    Tom Sparrow

      Sharkmove_King · 04/03/2019 at 18:08

      Locks: Walsh, McKay, Setterfield, Collins, Gibbons, Bewley, Parker, LDU

      Unlikely: Sparrow, Scrimshaw, Hanrhan, Golds, Ross, Fort, Wilkie, Hore

      Chance: The rest

AuroraBorealis?! · 04/03/2019 at 09:30

Brayden Fiorini was very impressive against the dogs last night, disposal efficiency was a bit low at 65% but 26 touches from 53% TOG is certainly nothing to sneeze at. Maybe not for classic this year but could be good in the draft format, (may have put a cheeky waiver claim in myself).

DEE · 04/03/2019 at 10:43

Witherden or Williams?

    Prizza · 04/03/2019 at 11:06

    Great question, withers gets a lot of cheapies and Williams can use his speed to advantage, so, therefore, the later, also if anyone was thinking miles surely now it becomes Libba.

TOPHAWK1 · 04/03/2019 at 11:26

Hi community! Like Derek mentioned in an earlier post, rookies are quickly becoming a serious issue.

Many rooks that were expected to perform have been poor. Lukosius, Rankine, Rozee, Ely Smith, Blakey, Mc Inerney, Duursma, Wilkie, Petrucelle, Hind, Collins (for his price) and Fort have all put in sub par performances in game one of the JLT. These blokes need to lift their rating in JLT2. If not named, its time to scrub them off.

On the flipside, there have been some real rookie surprises as well. The problem with a lot of these rooks is will they make the cut when the big boys come back in? Here are some examples, Golds, Butters, Balta, Caldwell, Hately, Hanrahan, Jordan Clark, and Hayes. These guys need to play in JLT2 and back it up. The ones that miss, we can put a line through. The ones that perform well again, can be seriously looked at if picked for round one. In all honesty, don't be surprised if 2 perhaps 3 out of these 8 will make round 1.

So, which rooks am I comfortable in starting at this stage? Here is my list who are currently in my side. Setterfield, Walsh, Gibbons, Constable, Hore (just), Burgess, Drew, Zac Clarke, and Mathew Parker. For me, the jury is still out on all other remaining rooks.

As it sits now, only 9 rookie positions have been filled in my team. That leaves 4-5 vacant rookie slots. And trust me, that is a lot, as the 9 current rookies I do have in my side are no guarantee of delivering. Out of those 9 on field I would say only 5 I have real confidence in. As I see it the current rookie pool is very very skinny and uncertain at this point.

Lets hope that JLT 2 will give us some real clarity because the rookie flops in JLT 1 have created more questions then answers.

How do others see it?

    Shake_n_bake · 04/03/2019 at 11:46

    I think players prices should go down or increase the salary cap to maybe an extra $500,000k

      Derek · 04/03/2019 at 12:03

      we had a golden run with the Suns, GWS, Port & Essendon giving us rookies.

      plus the inflated prices for the top draft picks has made a big difference.

        dontblushbaby · 04/03/2019 at 13:04

        Lets hope Logue ,Quaynor ect emerge tonight as options ?

        The Ranger · 04/03/2019 at 13:09

        I think if you looked back thru the JR archives you'd probably see similar posts every year around the Naff Cup/JLT first games.
        Everyone gets a bit spooked.
        You're spot on in saying that there's less rookie gold around now that the expansion clubs have established themselves but the rookies do tend to appear just after you've changed your team 56 times in a state of blind panic.

          Browncow · 04/03/2019 at 17:27

          I changed mine about 56 times yesterday. Think I have only left Danger, Williams, Walsh and Grundy throughout the weekend.

    dontblushbaby · 04/03/2019 at 13:12

    Also F.Watson WCE @ 123k , J.Clark Geelong 144k – they were Ok, but might struggle to get a game in a good team, as you said they have to back it up

      JohnDJ59 · 04/03/2019 at 14:27

      I have Clark D5 and Watson D6 and I'm very concerned.

        Johnny · 04/03/2019 at 14:48

        Clark an absolute lock to play round 1. Exactly what geelong need. Watson will have to play really well jlt2 to sneak in I would think

Derek · 04/03/2019 at 11:50

Gosh. How good were the big 3 on the weekend (neale wasn't too shabby either)

i'm looking at my 'poor-mans' midfield and starting to feel a bit uncomfortable.

Kelly, Neale, Dusty, MCrouch, ZMerrett, Libba, Walsh, Rookie.

It should be:

Macrae, Cripps, Oliver, Kelly, Neale, Libba, Walsh, Rookie

Only problem is that is $301k difference in price. That is like having BCrouch at M8 instead of a rookie.

How many points will i lose by having Dusty, MCrouch & Merrett instead of Macrae, Cripps & Oliver?

    Prizza · 04/03/2019 at 11:57

    No Cripps, your joking surely.

      Derek · 04/03/2019 at 12:01

      i was trying to stretch my money. like i said, after this week it is looking poor

    TOPHAWK1 · 04/03/2019 at 12:10

    I think you will lose serious points if you do not have Cripps or Macrae. They are must haves. You have to pay the price mate. Dusty is still playing a lot up forward and Zerrett is still on holidays. To get your dream midfield line, you may not quite get there. Your other lines would simply suffer too much. But you can get close IMO.

    This is my current midfield set up: Macrae, Cripps, Oliver, Neale, B. Crouch, Libba, Walsh, rookie. I needed the extra $200K to sure up my other lines so I had to settle for B Crouch instead of Kelly. Still, I am very comfortable with my current midfield structure.

    Cheers Derek.

      Maverick_ · 04/03/2019 at 12:37

      Im guessing your starting Grundy/Gawn derek if you went that light in the guts?
      If so setlle for goldy and strengthen that midfield.
      Goldy will give you a similar out put to the two big G's

        Derek · 04/03/2019 at 13:45

        they were always going to be the big issues this year. Expensive rucks and lack of rookies.

        I must have Oliver and Cripps. Can go without Macrae for now

        I have Danger, Smith, Heeny and Mundy in forward, I can go down there.

          Maverick_ · 04/03/2019 at 13:57

          Yeah I have gone 2 premo and a midprice in my fwd line.
          After heeney and danger i just cant pick a reliable F3.
          I'll pick them up later as they show themselves throughout the year and lock in some reliable mids

    JohnDJ59 · 04/03/2019 at 14:22

    I'm the same Derek, just can't afford Macrae or Neale and will probably pay for it. My top six at the moment are Cripps, Oliver, Bont, M.Crouch, Taranto, Walsh. I also have Grundy/Gawn in the ruck.

      Derek · 04/03/2019 at 17:38

      To think last year, we were mostly starting 6 keepers in guts with Cogs at M7

      Last year the mid rookies were aweful

        JohnDJ59 · 04/03/2019 at 18:15

        I had Cogs at M5, I'm trying to remember, I think I started with Titch, Oliver, M.Crouch, Fyfe, Cogs. Then Crouch was injured and I traded Dusty in.I upgraded to Danger around the byes.

    Moustachio · 05/03/2019 at 17:06

    Depends on your C options. If you have that covered, you are not missing points by buying value premo's, you are ahead points, and everyone else should be scared.

TOPHAWK1 · 04/03/2019 at 12:30

Are coaches considering starting with Brodie Smith, Dylan Roberton, and Sam Collins? It's tempting at an $800K spend to save cash for other lines, or is this simply madness?

    Maverick_ · 04/03/2019 at 12:33

    add witherden & williams to that list and you've named my midprice backline TH. (i do have one premo)
    Could get ugly but they are all proven to be able score decent enough to finish top 6-8 and roberton and smith at worst will be decent stepping stones. Really strengthens up my other lines also

      TOPHAWK1 · 04/03/2019 at 12:47

      I am not mad after all because that is exactly what I am thinking. My back line currently looks like this: Whitfield, Witherden, Williams, B Smith, Roberton, and Collins. The coin saved here has allowed me to get those 4 uber midfield premos. Cheers Maverick.

        Maverick_ · 04/03/2019 at 12:57

        BANG. you've just named my backline TH haha
        5 genuine premos in the guts
        2 in the ruck
        & 2 up fwd.

        If some defensive rooks put there hand up before round 1 i will play another rookie but lacking confidence this year on all lines decent scoring rooks are looking scarce.

      Hawk131415 · 04/03/2019 at 12:50

      Must be seriously lacking on all other lines, this is scary stuff boys

        Johnny · 04/03/2019 at 14:50

        Agreed, don’t think this is the year to be field 4 forward rookies.

    GloryDays94 · 04/03/2019 at 14:39

    Seriously Considering 1 premo and 3 Mid Price players
    I think a lot of people will

    Holty01 · 04/03/2019 at 16:27

    Only madness if there are enough rookies to fill those positions. At present you might have to do this to field a side. But as it always happens every year, the rookies will come. No need to worry this early.

    Prizza · 04/03/2019 at 18:02

    Hey th I reckon that if you are playing for the weekly cash or the main prize even you must include the mid pricers, especially in the backline, if going for cash league cash comps and beating up on your mates things might be a little more conservative.

JohnDJ59 · 04/03/2019 at 14:14

Thinking about having either Billings, Green, or Rayner at F4, since I'm not very confident about the fwd rookies. Setterfield and Parker should play, Balta and Drew looked good, but will they play round one, which of the three mid priced players would be the best. I'm not really happy with any of them.

    KeenButClueless · 04/03/2019 at 14:28

    Hi John. Think about McCarthy as a stepping stone. That way you don’t have to choose which of those mid pricers will break out. Just take the one that does when McCarthy has fattened. Neil also suggested Bailey for the same role, which is also worth considering. I think McCarthy might be the better player, but Bailey might have the more SC friendly role.

    As a longshot think about Taylor Walker. He might go really big from rounds 4-7, given his draw – North, Suns, Saints and Dockers. Didn’t see enough from JLT1 to make me happy, but it’s still in my mind.

      JohnDJ59 · 04/03/2019 at 15:28

      Hi Keen, I must say I hadn't thought about any of those three, but the two Brisbane boys might be worth a look, McCarthy did have a good game, so one to look at and I have Bailey in my draft team.

    JohnDJ59 · 04/03/2019 at 15:37

    Just Joined BB.I have one spot left in Holy Grail 461265 if you are interested.

      BrownlowBoy · 04/03/2019 at 20:12

      Sorry John, I'm full with leagues!

      Thanks for the invite though – appreciate it!

        JohnDJ59 · 04/03/2019 at 20:20

        No worries BB.

Maverick_ · 04/03/2019 at 14:44

My real smokey as a breakout contender and POD is Jack Higgins. I just love his attitude to life, his workrate is ELITE he's hungry & he just lives to play football and it shows when his out there he is special to watch. Jacks TAC days were incredible with a ridiculous avg of 145 also he just needs dimma to throw him in the guts to have him take his game to the next level, is this year the year?
Will watch his JLT2 closely

    Derek · 04/03/2019 at 17:34

    But he plays for Richmond. No one scores well

gator59 · 04/03/2019 at 15:03

Ok guys i have just started a DRAFT LEAGUE and need SIXTEEN coaches to participate

INVITE ONLY … A 16 TEAM COMP WHICH SPICES IT UP A BIT…. THIS IS A PRIVATE DRAFT LEAGUE ONLY SO IF YOUR NAME IS NOT ON THIS LIST PLEASE DO NO ENTER ….. CODE IS… 484176 …LEAGUE NAME IS JOCKS JUNGLELAND

TRIGGA
NEIL DEMONS DELIGHT
RUSSTY
MAVERICK
SHAKS;N;BAKE
BROWNLOW BOY
DEREK
TOPHAWK
JOHNJD59
AURORABOREALIS
KEENBUTCLUELESS
GLORYDAYS94
BLUEBAGGERJOSH
HEDSKI
FINNIUS

CHEERS, GATOR

PLEASE NOTE GIVE ME YOUR TEAM NAME

    Maverick_ · 04/03/2019 at 16:08

    What date/time have you set the draft for gator?
    Am going away this saturday and have limited access to internet for 2 weeks is all

      gator59 · 04/03/2019 at 16:12

      Hi Mav have set it for the 12th @7.00pm but i can change that date

        Maverick_ · 04/03/2019 at 16:25

        ahh that will make things tough for me.
        You just do what is best for the majority gator and if it suits me I will most definately join in.

          gator59 · 04/03/2019 at 16:35

          hi mav Do you know how to do a pre draft list that will let you auto pick a side if you can't be there

            Maverick_ · 04/03/2019 at 16:40

            Yeah i do. i can set that up and hope i draft a decent side still if yas are okay with that

              gator59 · 04/03/2019 at 16:43

              Not a problem mate

                Maverick_ · 04/03/2019 at 16:55

                If we got the numbers would this friday night suit people by anychance? If not all that's okay keep it the 12th 🙂
                I'm in gator.
                TopGunsXI

                  gator59 · 04/03/2019 at 17:00

                  The reason I set it for the 12th which is next Tuesday is all should be around after the long weekend

                    Russty_ · 04/03/2019 at 20:05

                    Hi Gator, thanks for the invite, I joined up, team is Superchumps, Tuesdays are no good for me but I'll just do a pre-draft list and hope for the best.

      neil demons delight · 04/03/2019 at 16:26

      Gat knows all about that (limited net access) Are you going to TASSIE? Sorry to bring back memories Gat I am in mate

        gator59 · 04/03/2019 at 16:32

        hahaha neil..

    BlueBaggerJosh · 04/03/2019 at 17:18

    Team Name is The All Stars, game on lads! 1st Draft and I’ll be making it count! Also, 12th suits me perfectly

      gator59 · 04/03/2019 at 17:22

      Good stuff BBJ

        BlueBaggerJosh · 04/03/2019 at 17:39

        Don’t really know how draft works, I’ll read the rules and give it my best shot!

    Derek · 04/03/2019 at 17:33

    Wow. 16 people. Draft night will be 3 hours.

      gator59 · 04/03/2019 at 17:45

      I can change picking time to 30 seconds from one minute if you want Derek

      Maverick_ · 04/03/2019 at 17:48

      And usual SC relevant players will run out very fast.
      Will need a deeper knowledge of all players we wouldn't be use to in SC classic.
      Makes things interesting!

        gator59 · 04/03/2019 at 17:51

        As I said in the original post Mav… It'll spice it up a bit

          Derek · 04/03/2019 at 17:54

          That is why draft is good, makes you look at every player. It will be a very this waiver list at the end

          Are we playing the byes?

            gator59 · 04/03/2019 at 18:08

            No we won't be playing through the byes Derek.. It just wouldn't be fair on all players

            We start round one,, Play each other once and finals start round 19

          gator59 · 04/03/2019 at 17:55

          I've changed the team setup to 3 backs, 3 mids, 1 ruck and 3 fwds and 5 bench players to make it a bit easier

            Maverick_ · 04/03/2019 at 17:57

            oh keeping it 5-5-1-5 would have made it very fun gator

    JohnDJ59 · 04/03/2019 at 17:56

    Hi gator, thanks very much for the invite, but I think one draft league will do me, plus with 16 teams, we would have to go with a lot of rookies that might not play, not sure that would work out very well. Thanks again for including me in the invite and I hope it all goes well on the night.

      gator59 · 04/03/2019 at 18:01

      All goo JD

    hedski · 04/03/2019 at 18:35

    Golden Trunks is in Gator.
    30 seconds is a bit quick mate, need the full minute 👍

      gator59 · 04/03/2019 at 18:40

      still at one minute Hedski

    AuroraBorealis?! · 04/03/2019 at 20:43

    Cheers for the invite Gator but i think one classic side and one draft side is more than enough for me to be able to focus on. I just know if i have two, one will be neglected. I'm looking forward to playing you in finns league though!

      gator59 · 04/03/2019 at 20:52

      Alls good AB

    TOPHAWK1 · 04/03/2019 at 22:30

    Count me in Gator. My team name: TOPHAWKS. Please confirm the exact draft time (AEST) and date. I live in the wild west and need to ensure I am online for the draft action minus 3 hours.

      gator59 · 04/03/2019 at 22:40

      Hi Toppa the time is 7pm aest.. Hope this ok for you and Russty

      So that's 4pm your time

        Russty_ · 04/03/2019 at 22:54

        Tues is no good for me mate but I'll just autoselect off the predraft list.

        TOPHAWK1 · 05/03/2019 at 00:55

        Cheers Gator. Should be able to get on line for the live action.

    Shake_n_bake · 07/03/2019 at 17:40

    Hey Gator is your draft league already full?

JohnDJ59 · 04/03/2019 at 16:11

Just wondering what the code is for the JR community group.

    hedski · 04/03/2019 at 18:10

    710443 DJ

      JohnDJ59 · 04/03/2019 at 18:32

      Thanks hedski.

neil demons delight · 04/03/2019 at 16:30

how and when do you trade players in Finns draft and how does the waiver work -anybody? thx NDD

    Derek · 04/03/2019 at 17:28

    Do you have a priority list for the waiver wires, or just a first in basis?

    The first in basis is rough, usually a player is discarded but doesn’t become available for at least 48 hours. Then at 12 noon they can be traded. 12.00 and 10 seconds later someone always beats you

Mick · 04/03/2019 at 16:45

Sorry if I’ve missed it in the thread but is anyone considering Archie Smith At R3 it big Stef doesn’t get up for round 1. If he can last a few games could generate some cash and provide som ruck cover.

    BlueBaggerJosh · 04/03/2019 at 17:20

    Great scoring potential, probably average 80 but I’d only take the punt if Stef is out for a significant period.

      Derek · 04/03/2019 at 17:24

      Stef would have to definitely miss 3 or 4 game

        Maverick_ · 04/03/2019 at 17:28

        You don't price increase till your 3rd game.
        For archie to make you enough $$$ he'd need to play a 4+ games as the #1 solo ruck to make some decent cash and even then he'd have to hit 80+ every game to make it worth while.
        not worth the risk.

Sharkmove_King · 04/03/2019 at 17:28

I recall a time about 3 years ago when there was a heap of value in the backline and not much more anywhere else, very similar to this year…..I believe it may have been wombat who proposed a 2 million for 500 points theory.

The idea was to pick a backline that was capable of scoring at least 500 points every week, but without using 2 million of your cap to ensure a good spend on the other lines.

Could we be revisiting those times?

    JohnDJ59 · 05/03/2019 at 16:18

    Yes, most of the best mid priced players are defenders this year, you could fill the first six spots of the backline with them if you wanted to

JohnDJ59 · 04/03/2019 at 17:48

Looking at these four mid priced defenders for my team, Witherden, Salem, Mills, Williams, Salem is the only one not locked, I will see how he B.Smith and Roberton go in their JLT2 games before deciding.

    Dee · 04/03/2019 at 18:23

    JohnD maybe try and look for a Newman…. why not this year? 2019 could be the lucky year!

      JohnDJ59 · 04/03/2019 at 18:31

      I thought about Newman, but once the real stuff starts Simmo could take points off him.

Sharkmove_King · 04/03/2019 at 18:12

I've got the feeling Darcy Moore might become popular after tonight….haven't heard his name too much

    Dee · 04/03/2019 at 18:25

    Darcy who?

    Sixtybloody6 · 04/03/2019 at 18:26

    Lol. Comedian over here.

    Russty_ · 04/03/2019 at 20:08

    Elliott looks pretty good so far, Darcy not so much.

    Johnny · 04/03/2019 at 21:35

    Much better in the second half. Could be an option for f4

TRIGGA_HAPPY · 04/03/2019 at 18:37

Shite!
Was the draft on last night?

Totally missed it.

Aa such got way way to many mids and crap def.
Somehow ended up with doc and no bench.

Is there an option to pick up anyone not drafted or do i need to trade?

How do i see who wasnt picked up?

At least need a fwd and def bench – 6 o bench in the mids 🙄

Hawk131415 · 04/03/2019 at 19:40

Quaynor Tick so farm Bewely hasnt been on long but slowly building,

    Hawk131415 · 04/03/2019 at 19:42

    Tucker tagging Beams and getting plenty of it as well

    Johnny · 04/03/2019 at 21:45

    I think both could make some coin, but I doubt either of them are named r1.

AuroraBorealis?! · 04/03/2019 at 19:51

Mundy has been disappointing so far, was hoping he'd show a bit in the midfield with Fyfe out

    Hawk131415 · 04/03/2019 at 20:08

    Very

    BlueBaggerJosh · 04/03/2019 at 20:57

    Forwards are quickly diminishing, Dunkley and Mundy for example. Past Danger and Heeney i think ill be going with a mid pricer at F3

      AuroraBorealis?! · 04/03/2019 at 21:06

      Yeah but who BlueBagger? Can't think of any FWD mid pricers i really like the look of

      Johnny · 04/03/2019 at 21:34

      There’s still a few. I think it makes it easier to pick with Dunkley being forward, and Mundy struggling.
      Dev smith % will grow dramatically over next couple days

        JohnDJ59 · 04/03/2019 at 22:10

        D.Smith my F2

          AuroraBorealis?! · 05/03/2019 at 09:19

          I've also got Smith sitting at F3 as of now, think it's the safest call atm

      Prizza · 04/03/2019 at 23:12

      Darling?

        Browncow · 04/03/2019 at 23:36

        I like Darling Prizza – undervalued thanks to impact injuries early in two games last year. Not sure I have the courage to pick him though unless I could find a way to make him F4.

AuroraBorealis?! · 04/03/2019 at 21:17

Are there any classic leagues with spots available at the moment? Only in 2 leagues as of right now and would like to join a couple more, cheers

    JohnDJ59 · 04/03/2019 at 22:07

    Holy Grail 461265, one spot left, let me know your team name, so I can keep it for you. Other leagues are Won't Back Down 710693 Rogue Traders 928087

      AuroraBorealis?! · 04/03/2019 at 22:11

      Cheers john, i'll jump in the holy Grail one, team name is Scorpions FC

        JohnDJ59 · 04/03/2019 at 22:23

        No worries, glad to finally fill it, I looked up your draft team name to see your real name and then matched it to Scorpions FC, so thanks for confirming that for me.

          AuroraBorealis?! · 04/03/2019 at 22:29

          All good, keen for a competitive year

BlueBaggerJosh · 04/03/2019 at 21:35

Hunter massive 20 point average increase last year could he improve on that? Looking for a mid with the round 12 bye or i will struggle hard come bye time (I already have Bont, Macrae)

    Nice_Person · 04/03/2019 at 21:53

    3 dogs mids?
    Yeo

      BlueBaggerJosh · 04/03/2019 at 21:54

      Hey…. It is aesthetically satisfying

AuroraBorealis?! · 04/03/2019 at 23:03

I decided to start a private league as well, anybody who will be competitive is welcome to join.

Code: 637893

I look forward to a fun season!

Cheers

Prizza · 04/03/2019 at 23:13

Quaynor not ready IMO

    TOPHAWK1 · 05/03/2019 at 00:59

    Agreed. He needs to smash the doubters in JLT2. That is if he gets another gig after today……..

    Nice_Person · 05/03/2019 at 07:02

    Probably the hardest side to break into

NoLanguage96 · 05/03/2019 at 12:38

Here's one for you community…

Option 1: Sicily and Merrett

OR

Option 2: Salem and Oliver

    DEE · 05/03/2019 at 12:44

    that's a tough one NL96, if Sicily can avoid the suspensions this year then option 1 for me mate…. just!

    JohnDJ59 · 05/03/2019 at 16:08

    Salem D2 and Oliver M2 for me.

neil demons delight · 05/03/2019 at 14:22

Could anyone in Finn's draft Please check to see if i am still in I cant get into the league since joining GATORS dra ft

    TRIGGA_HAPPY · 05/03/2019 at 15:40

    Yep still in mate

    Not sure what the hell I am gonna do with a six mid bench and doc!

    Do u know if i can trade in players who were not picked up in the draft?

      neil demons delight · 05/03/2019 at 16:25

      Trying to find out myself Gators ringing in half an hour to explain more I am in the same boat will post if i find out cheers

      Russty_ · 05/03/2019 at 18:20

      I think you can trade from the leftover guys Trigga called the free agents..whenever it is they're released, and there's that waiver thing too, not sure how that works…and also team to team trades.

        TRIGGA_HAPPY · 05/03/2019 at 19:16

        Parker 4 Smith?
        Lets do a deal Rust.

          Russty_ · 05/03/2019 at 23:03

          Yeah mate I'll do that for ya…you propose it and I'll accept. 🙂

            TRIGGA_HAPPY · 06/03/2019 at 09:46

            Kewl
            See what happens on the weekend will set her up after that.

    Russty_ · 05/03/2019 at 18:22

    Top right corner Neil, you just switch between leagues.

neil demons delight · 05/03/2019 at 18:23

Trigg apparently the free agents (players not picked ) drops tomorrow where you can have 5 trades and choose from that list. Go to trades then free agents and choose the players to be omitted and your new ones.Apologies jf it's unclear and hopefully someone can explain it better cheers Trigg NDD

neil demons delight · 06/03/2019 at 04:57

Mumford still in fantasy draft free agents. Couldnt believe he was available even with his suspension he is still a good back up. The talent the boys at FINNS missed is staggering Go for it lads — plenty there Trigg

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