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Supercoach 2019 – Player reviews: Matt Crouch

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G’day community, JB here with my first Jock Reynolds article, so please be kind. I’m going to kick things off by exploring the tantalising Supercoach option that is Matt Crouch.

At $551,300 Crouch has Supercoach pig written all over him. 2018 was a year to forget for the Adelaide Crows and a large slide down the ladder ensued amidst the chaos of the infamous preseason camp, soft tissue injuries and form slumps.

Crouch was not immune to these factors as the gun Adelaide midfielder pulled his hamstring early in their round two clash against Richmond (after scoring 51 supercoach points in the first quarter).

However, Crouch still managed to average 32 disposals and 102 points across eighteen games (105 true average after removing his injury affected 51) throughout 2018 and I’m confident with a full preseason he will average 110+ in 2019 and here is why.

THE GOOD

Adelaide will perform significantly better than last season and subsequently Crouch will also improve his supercoach performance. In 2017 when Adelaide were red hot, Crouch had a breakout year averaging 111 scoring fifteen tons which included a purple patch where Crouch scored twelve 100+ scores during a thirteen-game streak.

Crouch is a consistent performer and a closer look at his numbers show that during the last 50 games of his career (Since round 15 2016) the midfielder has averaged 106. The perennial ball winner has a history of scoring large too, during this fifty-game period (post 21st birthday) Crouch has racked up 32 scores of 100+ including sixteen scores of 120+.

Year Average -80 100+ 120+ Games
2018 102 2 12 4 18
2017 111 3 15 9 22
2016 (Post Bye) 101 1 5 3 10
Totals 106 6 32 16 50

Delving deeper into Crouch’s numbers raises an interesting point for consideration. Crouch’s post bye scores are phenomenal, consistently producing a high output post bye.

His post bye average over the last three years is 112 which includes a remarkable twenty-one tons from 29 games and thirteen 120+ scores. This is a consideration for both overall scoring and bragging rights in your league as you know Crouch will deliver during your finals campaign.

Post bye Year Average sub-80   100+   120+  Games
2018 110 0 7 3 9
2017 125 0 9 7 10
2016 101 1 5 3 10
Totals 112 1 21 13 29

THE BAD

Crouch is a high possession player who plays a largely outside role for his team which is not necessarily a bad thing, but when you combine this with a disposal efficiency of just 69.7 per cent last season, it means that Crouch needs to have a high volume of possessions to score well.

This is highlighted by the fact that in 2018 when Crouch had below 33 disposals his average was 95 compared to games where Crouch won 33 or more and his average increased to 112.  Crouch’s contested possession percentage and tackle numbers are lower than the AFL averages for midfielders as a result of this role.

Crouch has a history of limited offensive impact. Crouch has only 19 goals and 34 goal assists during his 90-game career. The other factor to consider is that Crouch only averages around 76 per cent time on ground – although he does average 32.5 disposals a game over the last two seasons.

THE VERDICT

Taking all of this into consideration I believe Matt Crouch is set for a big 2019. As I mentioned earlier, I am bullish about Adelaide rediscovering their form this season.

I think subsequently Crouch will replicate his 2017 form and if he can increase his disposal efficiency potentially exceed it. A set and forget premium option that will not let you down.

What do you think, community?

-JB


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Maverick_

Lock 🔐 hasn’t moved from my M5 since SC opened.

Great write up JB 🙂

paul

I agree always been my M5 too locked in.

JB_12

Cheers mate 🙂

Had him at m4 when SC opened
Currently at m5 but will depend on team structure as to where he ends up.

GloryDays94

Lock 🔒🔒

Undypuncher

Both crouches are to injury pro n e for my liking

Russty_

Brad is…Matt isn't.

Krups

In at M5 but will be removed if there is even talk of a headache

JohnDJ59

Locked at M4 since my first draft.

The Ranger

Thanks for the write up JB.
It's that 33 disposals for 95pts bit that puts me off him.
I can't start with him but I'll be looking at picking him up around the byes if he's traveling well.

JB_12

No worries mate.

He did average 32.5 disposals last year.
Which has the 13 disposal one quarter game included.

If he can maintain those disposal numbers in a healthy and in form team I think his disposal efficiency increases and he averages 110.

Not the worst idea to try and jump on mid season but at this point I'm not risking him being 600k and not in my team

Russty_

Yeah nice work JB…I forgot to mention before, I've got him locked away too, prefer him over Dusty who can be lazy early in seasons and lose mucho dollars.

skindog

His body will let you down, same as his brother, no go zone,,

Russty_

Only missed 6 games in 3 years though Skindawgy..he ain't his bro.

AuroraBorealis?!

Great write-up JB!

This bloke is locked in my side so long as his preseason is free of injury

derek

i remember last year seeing an interview with Gibbs when he just moved to the Crows, he couldn't get over how easily Matt Crouch could find the ball.

He is currently in my team, the only concern i have is how many points his brother might take from him. Although i do recall they played ok together.

RealStory

Thanks for efforts and picking up the dropped ball JB-12 but I think you're a little bit biased in your evaluation
When I evaluate players for SC I don't delete their lowest scores and justify it by saying they were injury affected.
To get the REAL STORY on potential keeper mids you should divide their total SC points for the season by the number of rounds in a season because SC doesn't pause until your keepers get better after injury. Based on that scenario Crouch only averaged 83 p/week for those who started with him last year over the last 3 seasons these are his first 8-round averages (if he didn't play he scored 0)
2016 first 8-rounds – 75.6
2017 first 8-rounds – 95.7
2018 first 8-rounds – 84.4
So, it's basically a Hail-Mary/crazy move to start M.Crouch in your SC team for an extra $400 up to 20k you can take your pick from Jelwood, Ward,Bont,Dusty,Pendle,Sidey OR if you want to spend up to 15k less you can get Brayshaw, Heeney or little Zach Merrett

Russty_

So are you saying that every game a player misses through injury / suspension ..whatever should be included in their season's average?
That's not the way it is though..you don't count a game a guy hasn't played..only the ones he has played.
Total Supercoach points divided by number of games played.
I'll be picking him because he's a gun and can go large and often.

His actual averages were
2016 first 8-rounds – 76.5
2017 first 8-rounds – 95.8
2018 first 8-rounds – 94.0..missed 3 games ( not counted in reality)
But he does generally finish well….which is where the average lifts.

RealStory

Nice write up Rusty but that is how it is. The total points scored by a player that you have all season are all added up and form part of your total score. How could you not know that? If the season is 23 rounds with 1 bye that means every player that you started with has been in your team for 22 games if he doesn't play he doesn't score points so he gets a zero but you don't delete a round from the total games in a season to compensate for it.
This is why so many SC players stagnate and never really challenge for a top 100 finish, it's the number of points that a player scores in a season that is relevant not his average.
If player x averages 150 but only plays 12 games and player y only averages 100 and plays all 22 games then player Y is 400 points better than player x despite his p/game average being 33% or 50% worse (depending on whether you base on x or y)

He might be worth a look after the byes but hasn't ever shown anything to suggest to me that he's a great starting option

Russty_

Sorry to burst your bubble but no player was ever scored contributing to their average, on a game they didn't play….averages only count for games they HAVE PLAYED…if you believe otherwise, you are completely wrong.

For someone who seems to know a fair bit about Footy, not sure where you got that theory from?
Not trying to embarrass you or anything but how could you possibly arrive at that conclusion?
"every player that you started with has been in your team for 22 games if he doesn't play he doesn't score points so he gets a zero but you don't delete a round from the total games in a season to compensate for it. "
This is incorrect I'm afraid, you might have your wires crossed, only games played contribute towards a player's average, not games missed…ever.

RealStory

Your 1st paragraph??? when did I say that? what I said is "The total points scored by a player that you have all season are all added up and form part of your total score." Maybe read it again without the angry eyes mate

RealStory

Obviously my philosophy and strategy is different to the majority but that's OK I normally rank higher than 99% of Supercoach players and there has to be a reason for it other than luck.
No need to attack me for having a different philosophy to you mate. That's very anti-social and quite immature

Russty_

Where did you get the idea that I was attacking you?…I was actually trying to be very polite in my responses. sorry you didn't take it that way.
I'm sorry but I can't see how you've done better than 99% of supercoach players in the past when you don't understand the basic rules of what constitutes an average.
All I quoted from what you said was this….
"every player that you started with has been in your team for 22 games if he doesn't play he doesn't score points so he gets a zero but you don't delete a round from the total games in a season to compensate for it. " (this is what you said)
And I stand by what I said in the first post, you're completely wrong.
It's not a philosophy or a different way of thinking, it's wrong from how it actually is….in reality. Period.
I'm just trying to help you, because you seem to be delusional, and overly defensive, when there's no need to be.

No one's angry here mate, maybe you need to stop accusing people of being "angry"…under your 10 different names?

RealStory

You're either deliberately misinterpreting what I wrote to provoke an argument or you have genuine problems with comprehension. Hopefully it's the second option.

Russty_

I'm not mis-interpreting anything….you said it yourself, "you don't delete a round from the total games in a season to compensate for it"….NEWS FLASH….yes you do!…why would you include a game in anyone's average if they didn't play the game?
The only games that count in a player's average are THE GAMES THEY PLAY.
I'll accept your apology on gold leafed framed paper with gold infused ink.

RealStory

Surely what you meant to say was "Who's that trip trapping over my bridge?"

INP

Hahahaha Classic

Russty_

Yeah right…Pieman's not here anymore, so no need to try to impersonate him…along with all your other banned identities.

Intel Design

What happened to Pieman? Has he left Supercoach for good?

Russty_

You really think you're the Goat knocking the Troll off of the bridge?….you are the troll.

RealStory

This site needs a Billy-Goat-Gruff to deal with the likes of you.

Russty_

I don't even know what that means…are you 75?…the likes of me?…lol..I'm just telling you the facts, sorry if you can't deal with the way it actually is.

Great fact hunt

Hi real story. Your theory makes sense as you do not want to have injury prone players in your team however the games that he doesn’t play you will generally scores at least sixty odd from your bench players. Therefore you would have to put crouch down for at least that amount for the games he does not play. This would give you a true indication. If he is long term injured you would waste a trade which is another issue. Risk v reward. Cheers

Russty_

Yep ok…I guess that's why you changed your name to Billy Goat Gruff, and then Billy Goat this week……why don't you just start an account with one name?…is it because you were already banned from here so many times?

TRIGGA_HAPPY

Different way to look at things but using the above logic assumes every player has 100% TOG.

Need to take TOG or PPM into account to reveal the real story.

RealStory

PPM and TOG are important in assessing players during preseason games where players often only play a half or limited minutes each quarter. When it comes to the real thing it's total points that matter and PPM are virtually irrelevant unless a trade-target player is being managed back from injury.
I had more to say on the subject but once again admin is interfering

Realstoriesblocked

sorry mate admin wont let me respond

skindog

Shouldnt be blocked for having a great and genuine opinion Real, seems if you differ or stray from "The herd", you get deleted and or banned, what do you call that? a DICKtatorship???

RealStory

Thanks Skindog. I think it may have had something to do with the way I wrote time on ground and points per minute or some other unknown rule that I broke. Yeah differing opinions aren't very popular here are they?

Russty_

Haha you poor victim…pretty obvious now who skindog really is, had my suspicions about that previously,
Maybe it was more based on, that your post isn't really based in reality…theory-wise.
Anyways…good to know…good luck with your great and genuine opinions lol

Skindog

Who I really am? Sorry Rusty, don’t follow, I just think people are allowed opinions and shouldn’t be ridiculed for it, but tell me who I am because I think you have me mixed up, been in here for years, on and off, but never changed my name,

Skindog

I actually think I know who you are too! Don’t know why there are games being played, I’ve done nothing wrong, but you Rusty remind me of someone who use to be here but isn’t anymore!

Russty_

I know who I am mate, because I've always had the same account here ever since I came here…and I still do, I'm not a multiple personality multiple account faking loser like those two whose opinions you think are so great and genuine.

Russty_

You seem to be a fanboy of those two Skindog….if you're not you sure seem like one, if you've never changed your name then there's someone else using your name to make posts.
Why don't you make an intense debate account so we don't have to guess.

GloryDays94

It's alright Russty we all know it's 66 and Wow 👍😂

Skindog

Glory, I hope you’re not referring to me as 66 or Wow??

skindog

Think Rusty might be a conspiracy theorist

Russty_

Yep he was …does that surprise you?…you seem to condone all the nasty shit they say.

Russty_

Is that because you change your name every 5 minutes?…realstory, realstories, realstoriesblocked, real this, real that….66, Wow….whatever, you're sad.

neil demons delight

intense debate for all only way RUSTY

Realstoriesblocked

PPM and TOG are important in assessing players during preseason games where players often only play a half or limited minutes each quarter. When it comes to the real thing it's total points that matter and PPM are virtually irrelevant unless a trade-target player is being managed back from injury.

Realstoriesblocked

points per minute are important in assessing players during preseason games where players often only play a half or limited minutes each quarter. When it comes to the real thing it's total points that matter and PPM are virtually irrelevant unless a trade-target player is being managed back from injury.

Derek

Simplist thing is to call it what it is. If it there average for the games they played, call it that. I see that as the best way to compare as a starter. You then factor in the number of games you think they will play, maybe adding in a 60 for the bench player for every game to be missed. Past games is only an indicator of future games.

I don’t think anyone seriously thinks their players are going to miss games during the year.

Crouch did a hamstring round 2 last year. Will he do a hamstring this year? You can’t answer that.

paul

You are talking trends .Yes over the last three years starting with M .Crouch it has taken him a few rounds to get going.He has always finished strong. Interesting. I my now looking at player trends.

paul

What i have notices analyzing this is most players start better with age increase.With M Crouch he has stayed the same over the last three years for the first 8 rounds.but you would want to have him in your side after the bye rounds. I agree.

Brandon Cole

Matt Crouch

Pre Bye: 96.24 from 21 (10/21 below 100, 3/21 120+)

2017: 98.5 from 12

2018: 93.22 from 9

Post Bye: 117.95 from 19 (3/19 below 100, 10/19 120+)

2017: 125.2 from 10

2018: 109.89 from 9

Note* not my info, I copied this from another site

Max

Dude, what the hell are you on? You divide the amount of points that a player scores by the amount of games they play, surely that's obvious. It's ridiculous to divide it by the amount of games in a season, as clearly if a player misses a game then they score 0, and then you're bringing down the average of a player even though it's impossible for them to score if they aren't playing. Nat Fyfe scored 1708 SC points in 15 games last year, averaging 113.9. By your logic, he actually averaged 77.6. Which is both untrue and ridiculous. A player can only score in games that he plays. Therefore, to work out his average, you divide the amount of points he scores by the amount of games he plays, whether that's 5 games, 15 games, or 22 games. That gives you an idea of how good a scorer he is. What a ridiculous philosophy to have.

Dukes

I’ve gone Zach Merrett over him

Undefeated

He's a lock for me. Too much value to pass up on for his potential output. The crows 2018 season was a write off. Will push for top 4 this year!

skindog

No they wont, got no heart

Derek

Eddie is still getting a game.

Lostlarrikin

Great article.
Like it or loathe it, RealStory has some wise words (tact and delivery could perhaps use some refinement).
RS is referring to PIT (points in team) avg.
There is huge benefit in choosing players in your starting team who can pump out 20-22 games.
Durability is king.
The sages from SCS will lead u to the light.

Ktfg

It's down to dusty or crouch at m5
Thoughts?

skindog

Dusty for me mate,

Stirlsy

Dusty for me too, didn't have him last year and that proved to be the right play, but my gut says start him this year.
Crouch ill take a look at him around the byes.

kevwal

I have thoroughly enjoyed the debate so far, will now assess my picked keepers as per points generated over games played and TOG. Plenty of time to do the research prior to kick off. Suspect I haven't been far wrong using averages, predicted averages and gut feel.

Rick

He's in the Andrew Gaff mould. He needs 45 possies to score 120

GloryDays94

Yet will score 100 plus most weeks while others have crap games.

Skindog

Until he king hits someone then out for a few?

skindog

Was talking about Gaff!????? jesus you blokes are unreal, quick to have a go? you must win every year?? like the little girl said to Hodgey when she presented him his premiership medal, " you;re my hero"

GloryDays94

1: why reply to my comment when I was talking about crouch not Gaff
2: we are not quick to have a go, you are just a huge soon
3: I don't win every year and could not care less if I do 👍👍

Skindog

1. I was replying to the Gaff comment🖕🏻
2. Yes you are quick to have a go, I’ve been watching this for a while now,
3. I know you don’t win every year so stop acting like you know everything and being a flog!!

GloryDays94

The only ones acting like they know everything is you and your mate real story 😂. Both of you flogs should just p#ss off and then everything will be fine

TommyC99

Is currently locked in my team but those stats about his pre bye form are very interesting indeed. I think he starts better than previous seasons as adelaide have a point to prove, how much better thought is the question.

Lazza

No way I’d start with Crouch.. upgrade target post bye for me … the Crows making the 8 is no way certain, so I don’t expect to see many Crow players in the top 40 SC scorers.. Laird the only safe bet.. will be interesting to see how they go in the JLT..