Gday community, we’re back at it again as Damo, Lek and Patch sit down to sift through some of the early issues in Supercoach 2019.

They discuss whether to Dusty or not to Dusty, if Fyfe truly is Lyfe and if Kelly got you… jelly? I dunno. We talk about Josh Kelly.

We also go on a stark raving, deep divingly mad look at some ruck statistics – or rather, Patch rants and raves while the other two sit quietly and indulge him.

We also talk early-season injuries, deal with some community comments and insult Patch about everything, because he deserves it.

How are ya travelling, folks? What questions do you want us to cover?

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Boris_Baconbeer
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Boris_Baconbeer

First Yay!! Looking forward to a great pod as usual 😀

Lekdog
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Cheers B-Man, let us know what ya think. Ask some questions next week too 😉

Boris_Baconbeer
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Boris_Baconbeer

And I can confirm, it was definitely a great pod pod :D. Toying with the idea of one of these old names to save money somewhere Hanners, Bennell, or even Birchall for a back-line pov buy. If there is a lack of rooks there he may be the pov buy worth going for. Of course provided he or Bennell play. Early Days though and after my disastrous Wietering pick last year just to be different, I'm scared of doing any of the aforementioned players. Talk me out of it 😀 Edit: oh I know they ain't pods but they probably… Read more »

Lekdog
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Bennell or Birchall if they're fit to play early are worth the risk, Hanners isn't

Derek
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Derek

Put a line through Birchall. Very best case is play round 4, more likely round 8 or 9

Nick
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Nick

Dangerfield is a POD right??

Lekdog
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Sure

WTFoxtrot_58
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WTFoxtrot_58

Nudge nudge wink wink say no more say no more!!

Lazza
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Lazza

If you don't have him your team will have a POD……

guest
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guest

he's not a bad pick actually

HighEnergry
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HighEnergry

Are we talking Patrick Dangerfield here or this younger brother Gilbert? I don't see Gilbert getting a run this season.

TRIGGA_HAPPY
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TRIGGA_HAPPY

Lads looking forward to having a listen to the new pod. Travelling like swanny and dusty on a vegas trip. 😁 Q to cover. Who benefits more from the new rules? A. Defenders. Can play on out of goal square, man on mark 10m away. B. Ruckman. Can take it out of the ruck and ruckman must come front on. C. Midfielders. With 6 – 6 – 6 dont have to worry about a guy coming off the square and have free passage into fwd line. D. Forwards. Can use hands/arms in back of defender to go for mark and… Read more »

Lekdog
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I love it Trig!

Boris_Baconbeer
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Boris_Baconbeer

Would B mean taller rucks better (or jump higher)?

Boris_Baconbeer
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Boris_Baconbeer

Or maybe Longer rucks will be better 😉

Lekdog
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Pls no Boris!

Sharkmove_King
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Sharkmove_King

Probably D if any but I forecast that it won't make too much difference for any players.

Derek
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Derek

Players like Sicily will be affected by the 6/6/6 rule. Hawks love the extra defender and he is the beneficiary.

SW Roosters
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SW Roosters

The 6/6/6 rule only applies as a starting point at each centre bounce. Once the ball is bounced and in play there is nothing to stop coaches rolling back a spare behind the footy.

I don't see the 6/6/6 rule having that much impact on intercept defenders such as Sicily.

Time will tell…..

TMitch
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TMitch

C.
Once the ball is bounced anyone can run through the middle/come off the square can't they? If yes then its absolutely no different to the rule that's been in place since Tom wills started the game. No change there

Tyruddanaut
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Tyruddanaut

Interested to see Jarrod Harbrow, made most kicks outs and decreased in midfield time significantly, is only 0.3% ownership. One to watch 🤞

Tyruddanaut
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Tyruddanaut

Conca. 392,300. Most likely will gain significantly more midfield time with Neale and Blakey out. 0.5%
Hopper 0.6%
Wayne Milera 1.1%

Lekdog
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They great Damo mentioned him in the pod too…interesting

Dice_real
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Dice_real

Pearce off Hanley one to watch too over JLT tyruddanaut if fully fit

Dave
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Dave

Hey lads, where should I send some content for you're consideration?

Cheers!

Dave
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Dave

Or your consideration.

Lekdog
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Hey Dave I'll flick you and email on the account you've used to comment!

Dave
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Dave

Cheers mate!

Sharkmove_King
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Sharkmove_King

The SHARKMOVE of 2019 is Michael Hibberd!!!! Forget about last year he just had a bad one….but this is an All Australian half back with solid scoring history sub 400k. Can't believe how much people are talking about the Brodie Smith's and Robertons but not this guy for a little more $. There is another one I'm looking at that but he needs a good JLT. Doesn't need to dominate but needs to move well. That player is Tom Lynch. Idea would be to hold him up until his Round 14 bye and then trade to anyone player that will… Read more »

Derek
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Derek

What can you see Hibberd averaging?

There are thousands of defenders who will average 70 to 75 this year. Will he do much better?

Sharkmove_King
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Sharkmove_King

95-100

Ralph
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Ralph

Didn’t Hibberd only score well playing as a loose defender? Will the 6-6-6 rule affect this?

Sharkie
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Sharkie

Hibberd role change, he's done. Simple

Sharkmove_King
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Sharkmove_King

I'm experiencing some serious deja vu here gentlemen….I got the same comments when I'm mentioned Jack Macrae this time last year, and also Josh Dunkley didn't you guys say I should take a rookie instead? BTW, if u want a bulldog this year it's the Bont!

That's the beauty of a SHARKMOVE you always get negative comments before it's happened because nobody wants to do it…..That's what make it a SHARKMOVE!

Lazza
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Lazza

Not happy with you SK … now why did you have to go and mention the Bont … he's been in my team since day 1 … currently in 3% of teams… .. watch that soar now …

Rick Grimes
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Rick Grimes

Agree the Bont is being overlooked, but still don't see him improving his average all that much. Hibberd no good. Lynch will be feast or famine. Could be worth it.

fatboyfat7
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fatboyfat7

I had Lynch in my first draft that I posted but got put off with the query over him being ready for R1. In 2017 he was right up there with the forwards so with better supply he can easily push last seasons average up. Obviously the MAJOR concern is his knee. He he's named R1 he should be considered.

Hibberd? Yeah, nah…

Dice_real
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Dice_real

I like the Hibberd call and rate him. Just don't see Melbourne using him to be supercoach friendly.
His last ton was 20 games ago

Donald Drumpf
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Donald Drumpf

🤣

Tangles
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Tangles

Dont like the Hibberd call but back your gut SK, have been thinking of T. Lynch for the last week or so. Priced cheap

TMitch
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TMitch

You're not going name every sub 400K player as a shark move like you did last year are you mate? It was funny for a little while last year but wore thin very quickly

Wombat
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Wombat

Dude you've been doing this for a couple of years now. In the preseason you predict 30 or 40 players to be the sharkmove for the current season and never get one right. Maybe if you predicted 5 or 10 and they actually improved or made good money you could keep coming here and posting stuff as if you actually knew something of value you wouldn't be annoying.But my 5 years old daughter could also name 40 players as a breakout or sharkmove and come back 12 months later highlighting the single one that worth something and claim she was… Read more »

Cogs
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Cogs

I agree. I actually miss wows analysis on players. Wasn't just random statements was often thought through very well

Rick
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Rick

Can't have him. You don't 'just have a bad one' for 22 rounds. Pass

ToughBretts
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ToughBretts

Love the pod boys, excited things are starting up again. Can I have your thoughts on Stephen Hill and Josh Smith (WCE from Collingwood)? (Both currently in my side) Stephen Hill is set to take a lot of midfield minutes according to Connor Blakely, and priced as a 388k defender with 4 of his last 6 seasons with a 89+ average, with midfield expectations and still 28 years old. Why is he in 0% of teams? And Josh Smith (244k fwd) has already set records at west Coast for their 2km time trial and is reportedly the fittest guy in… Read more »

Sharkmove_King
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Sharkmove_King

I say do it, it's a big SHARKMOVE!!!! Of the 2 I like Josh Smith better, mainly because of the price. Stephen Hill not so sure. I have as only 3 of the last 6 seasons 89+ and 1 of those was off 18 games. So 2 seasons out of the last 6 (33%) have been successful years, but the last 2 have been write offs. It's a low percentage play imo. Smith is different. He is younger and a change of club can kick start a guys career. He has averaged 70 in his career and it's very possible… Read more »

ToughBretts
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ToughBretts

If Hill is fit I’m willing to take the gamble that he’s been playing out of position off half back, when he was drafted at #3 overall with the expectations of being an elite midfielder – has averaged 24.9 touches a game in a season before

I think West Coast would be excited about Josh Smith. So far he’s made a good of an impression as you can possibly make by the end of January. He’ll get a chance in JLT, if he takes it..

Derek
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Derek

I read Hill had some problems with his quad. Hurt whenever he kicked the ball ( not good for SuperCoach), was expected to have a delayed start to season

ToughBretts
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ToughBretts

Yeah he’s coming off quad surgery I think but he’s been running since New Years so he should be good by April

Tyruddanaut
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Tyruddanaut

I heard something about Stephen Hill's scoring to be negatively impacted this season. I was considering him too. Don't take this as gospel because I don't know exactly what it was but take it into account

Patch
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Patch

I'd need to see a lot more than time trials for Josh Smith in order to consider him, while Stephen Hill has the potential but depends a lot on his role. Don't mind them at this stage but certainly wouldn't be locking them in

Dan
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Dan

Billy Hartung used to be up there with Smith and Hill at Hawks preseason runs…need I say more.

Xman
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Xman

Who do we think are going to average over 100 this year as a defender?

Also Can anyone recall what was jake Lloyd’s roll was last year, did he score most of his points playing as a spare or did he generally have a man? Likewise with Whitfield did he score his points as a loose or did he just get good midfield minutes?

derek
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derek

Laird & Whitfield would be the only ones i think will average 100.

Lloyd had an amazing 2018…. too amazing if you look at his previous years. He will be affected by Mills back in team.

Sicily will be affected by the 6/6/6 rule, hawks love having him as the extra defender, he won't get that as much this year

Simpson will average 99.7 like every other year for past 30 years.

RoyWetard
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RoyWetard

I imagine that a team that wants a loose in defence would start the player on the wing before pushing back.

ToughBretts
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ToughBretts

I think the 6-6-6 rule is going to have less impact on general play than people anticipate. Sicily will just need to lineup on a wing FOLLOWING A GOAL only, so he will only be disadvantaged by inside 50 entries directly from a centre clearance. Hawthorn also had the highest percentage of long effective kickouts (compared to short effective kickouts) in the comp, and Sicily is their main kickout man and will be wildly benefited from the new kick-out rules.

Dan
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Dan

Took the words out of my mouth. Sicily will be fine.

Tyruddanaut
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Tyruddanaut

Laird, Lloyd, Whitfield and Sicily are nearly guaranteed to. Simpson and Hurn would be in the next bracket and Ryan, Crisp, Andrews and Witherden have a shot. I wouldn't rule out Hibberd, Williams, Harbrow, Milera, Mills and Weller

SHU
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SHU

brayshaw, bont, yeo or merret? i want to have pods but am struggling. not sure who to fit for who.

current midfield is macrae, cripps, neale, yeo, martin, setterfield, stocker, bewley (atley, ling, hind)

also thinking about starting with fyfe because freos first 3 games are insane but still not sure about his longterm fitness.

also, who is thinking a bit crazy and is tempted by lobb…?

ToughBretts
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ToughBretts

Yeo and Merrett, id wait and see with Neale. I’m a Brisbane supporter and I think he’ll kill it but I’d still like to see before I pay 600k for a guy in a new system in a pretty stacked midfield with Berry, McCluggage and Mathieson likely to spend a lot of time through there with Zorko

derek
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derek

i might be bias, but i don't see Yeo as an Uber, and at his price this year you would only get him if you think he is 110+

Neale will do well, however he might find things a bit different without a 7 foot ruckman tapping it down his throat.

merret can go Uber

The Bont i worry will become a perm forward. so many midfielders at the dogs now.

SHU
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SHU

Neale won’t have to play alongside fyfe which should make it easier for him, and it’s not like he is leaving a good ruckman in Sandilands for a crap in Martin. Also I reckon with gaff gone for the first few rounds yeo could up his numbers even more. And that may be true about bont, I just expect him to blow up one of these years.

Dukes
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Dukes

Neales SuperCoach average is higher playing with Fyfe vs without and yeo also averaged more last year when playing with gaff vs without

Dukes
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Dukes

Agree about bont though, he just seems destined to have a 120 season

SHU
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SHU

Wow didn’t know about neale and yeo, that’s interesting but yeah bont is tempting. What r people’s thoughts on brayshaw?

ToughBretts
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ToughBretts

If you take out Yeo's 27 last year he averaged 111 in the remaining games, and projects to spend even more time in the guts this year. I would bet he breaks 110 average

SHU
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SHU

I think that won’t effect him at all, Neale was a gun with Fyfe mundy Stephen hill and all the other youngsters like cerra brayshaw blakely etc. also beams played well and it’s basically a swap of Neale for beams and neale is better. Also, you don’t trade such a high pick for a player of u don’t intend on him being elite.

ToughBretts
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ToughBretts

I hope you're right mate, but my point was just that I would suggest having a look first before spending absolute top dollar on someone in a system we haven't seen them in. 100% of players who have started over 600k in the past three years have fallen below 600k at some point.

SHU
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SHU

Fair enough, still a big risk ofc but that’s what u have to do if u want to win

Holty01
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Holty01

I’m actually concerned about bonts scoring this year. He has been a SuperCoach favourite to the people at champion data and when there are some extra points to be handed out to reach the 3300 in the game, Bont seems to be a benefactor because of his impact in a game. Now that there are extra points been given out with the kick in, there may not be as many extra points to give out which could mean the likes of Bont may no longer be the benefactor of as many extra points.

Tyruddanaut
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Tyruddanaut

I would say don't go for PODs. The only time you should pick a POD just because he is a POD is when you can't choose between more than one player.

That being said, I like Brayshaw and Merrett as under-priced options, but Brayshaw was too inconsistent and his scoring potential is going off 6 games within 8 late in the season. Merrett, on the other hand, is racing to be for round 1. Everyone thinks he will, but time off training is time off training

Wyld One
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Wyld One

Do you magnificent gentlemen believe Caleb Daniel can be a genuine POD if he continues to play off the HBF as he did towards the end of last year?

Dukes
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Dukes

It’s a bold play but I like it if he continues that role

Who knows
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Who knows

A POD that I wouldn’t consider myself

Nice person
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Nice person

He's a pod for a reason

Sound
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Sound

Patch could you invest in a decent mic?

Patch
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Patch

Is this Lek's alt account?

The mic's not the problem, my inability to use technology seems to be the issue. I am working on making me not sound like I'm using a toaster.

derek
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derek

I've set up a Cash League. Nothing too rich. $20 per player should add a bit of interest. Winner take all.

email: [email protected]

if you would like to join.

I'll send you banking details and league code.

Only bad players need apply 😉

Only 4 spots left.

Richard
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Richard

Sent you a message mate

Derek
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Derek

Got it. I’ll sort it out

Intel Design
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Intel Design

Be sending you an email as well, if you still have room.

redgumwon
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redgumwon

Hi Derek I've sent you an email with the Supercoach Draft league code if you're interested in playing again with us

Rivo
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Rivo

Great POD chat Lek, Patch & Damo. The Cox curse will surely disappear?

I’m starting with Grundy/Gawn combo (and Fyfe).

As for PODs, I have Higgins at F3, Brodie Smith D4.

My question though is which of these to start with…

1. Sam Walsh M6 & Collins D5, or
2. Foley/Atley M9 & Roberton D5?

Rivo
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Rivo

Any thoughts folks?

Dice_real
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Dice_real

1 easy rivo

Rivo
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Rivo

Thanks Dice. Brain was getting scrambled. 👍🏽

Wombat
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Wombat

Collins and Roberton with Bewley.
Walsh is too expensive and Atley didn't find the Wizard of OZ during the off season to get a heart

Rivo
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Rivo

Cheers Wombat. Not a bad call. Will watch their pre season with interest. Already have Bewley, looks promising.

Lekdog
Admin

1 but I think Walsh is overpriced and won't generate enough cash, hope to be proven wrong

Sharkmove_King
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Sharkmove_King

I don't know Lekdog, I'm hearing the top3 of last year's draft could be close to being the 3 best players drafted in the last decade. Don't think the other 2 have a great SC game (yet) but Walsh on the other hand has massive numbers in everything he has played in.

Wombat
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Wombat

Boys and men Sharky
This century #1 draft picks first year SC average
2000 Nick riewoldt -43
2001 Luke Hodge -63
2002 Brendon Floggard-56
2003 Adam Cooney-47
2004 Brett Deledio-75
2005 Marc Murphy-70
2006 Bryce Gibbs-63
2007 Mathew Kreuzer-60
2008 Jack Watts-26
2009 Tom Scully-71
2010 David Swallow-80
2011 Jonathon Patton-45
2012 Lachie Whitfield-73
2013 Tom Boyd-44
2014 Patrick McCartin-37
2015 Jacob Weitering-68
2016 Andrew McGrath-71
2017 Cameron Rayner-60

Swallow and Whitfield both in teams full of young players so not a fair comparrison. Murphy and Gibbs at Carlton fair comparrison

Tyruddanaut
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Tyruddanaut

1 fo shoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.
The blues are loving Walsh and McKay put a specific request to put him in your team!
Collins is a rebounding key defender in the worst team in the league

Rivo
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Rivo

Yep, reckon 1 it is for now. Thanks.

Patch
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Patch

"The Cox curse will surely disappear?" – every Supercoacher, every year since 2013. Logically, Grundy is the best selection. Logically, there's no reason he won't continue to dominate. Logically, he's the biggest lock since Brendan Goddard in 2013. But I'm not basing my non-selection on logic here.

Hard to tell early on, but I'd go option two.

gator59
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gator59

Thoughts on
Zerrett and Gawn.. Vs.. Fyfe and Kruez

Rivo
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Rivo

Option 1. Kreuz being held together by sticky tape.

Patch
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Patch

Agreed

Tyruddanaut
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Tyruddanaut

Zerrett and Gawn. That's 44 games compared to 30 and 240 points compared to 210

Whitey
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Whitey

Kruez is injured again I think

gator59
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gator59

They say he'll be right for round 1 Whitey

skindog
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skindog

Wouldnt risk it Gator

neil demons delight
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A GRADERS has finished well up the ranks for the last few years and I am looking for only 5 players from last year_NORMS REBELS Last years winner_BUCKLEYS A CHANCE david _THE WALL chris_UNWORRIED AND UNSULLIED Anthony_Deafness Nicholas 4th last year_This is without doubt one of the premier leagues so please let me know your team name should one of these are not playing THANKS GUYS NDD

neil demons delight
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no

The Golden Ticket
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The Golden Ticket

Hey NDD, would love to be included if anyone of your regulars is unavailable. Managed to finish last year inside top 750 thanks to the help of the community. Let me know. Cheers

neil demons delight
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I remember playing against you in a league and you were good Jump in and welcome 209085 Let me khow if you are in Also another 4 good coaches welcome

The Golden Ticket
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The Golden Ticket

Thanks heaps NDD just jumped in.

neil demons delight
Guest

good luck with the season cheers

gator59
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gator59

Hey TGT if you want another top league jump into Magnificent 7… Code is…609300,,, This is invite only. Cheers Gator

The Golden Ticket
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The Golden Ticket

Thanks Gator, just jumped in. Best of luck. Cheers TGT

PizzaSafety
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PizzaSafety

Only slight concern with Whitfield is the tag, got held to 67 by Neal-Bullen and to an 89 by Banfield but I guess not many teams will tag a half-back. I think he showed in the back half of the year that he can get even better so he's worth picking and it's very very difficult to see him not being at least top 6 in defence. My mids at the moment are Fyfe, Kelly, Neale, Yeo and Dusty. Will consider the likes of Macrae, Crouch and Zerrett depending on the rest of preseason and which rookies I choose. Only… Read more »

kevwal
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kevwal

Whitfield is a conundrum for me, I don't like putting two players from the same side on the same line (to start the season). I believe Zac Williams will average between 95>100, while Lachie will average 97>103. There is a $140k difference in price, is it worth the 2>3 point (possible) gain?

PizzaSafety
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PizzaSafety

Yeah I feel like they can steal each others points but I expect Whitfield to spend more time on the wing with no Shiel and Williams back. That seemed to be the case in the two finals last year. I do think the two can also function together in the back line like Doch and Simpson or Hodge and Birchall.

kevwal
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kevwal

JLT may give a pointer as to what system the Hawks will use, might not either, Clarko is a cagey cove.

Wombat
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Wombat

Definitely both Pizza. Many would say that mushrooms and anchovies could never work together but a good Cappricossa is possibly the greatest pizza ever

Sharkmove_King
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Sharkmove_King

No, with your projections you have to go Williams or bite the bullet and go both.

PizzaSafety
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PizzaSafety

A bit of exaggeration on the J Kelly injury proneness, especially if you think Coniglio is a safer option J Kelly 2014: 18 games, missed 1 game to a hamstring, 1 to an eye injury (which is not to do with injury proneness), 1 game in the NEAFL, one as a sub 2015: 18 games, all games missed he played in the NEAFL 2016: 22 games 2017: 21 games 2018: 15 games, 1 games missed through concussion, 6 to groin issues -He's only been injury prone one season! Coniglio 2014: 14 games, 1 missed due to a shoulder, 7 to… Read more »

Lekdog
Admin

I think the worry comes from that groin though, blokes just get ruined by it.

Agree that it's probably overblown but they both consistently miss extended time, the reason is probably irrelevant.

Do you think they'll both play enough games to warrant selection?

PizzaSafety
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PizzaSafety

Cheers Lek, but I don’t get what you mean by Kelly consistently misses games if that only happened last year and not his other years. Outside of the groin injury he’s been no worse than all the other top mids in terms of injury. Groin injuries are nasty but the majority of players get over them and move on with their careers so it’s more unlikely than likely he has any issues with that this year. The problem was he didn’t get surgery and hoped the issue could be managed instead, which proved wrong. The bigger problem is how slow… Read more »

Lekdog
Admin

Understood, Kelly has never played a full season before though and misses 3-4 games on average, Fyfe admittedly misses a lot more. I'd rather just lock away Cripps and Neale and not even worry about these other two

PizzaSafety
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PizzaSafety

Kelly has played a full season in 2015 (18 AFL games and 4 neafl games) and 2016 (22 AFL Games) and missed one game in 2017, like I wrote above. He had been unavailable for selection for 3 games between 2014-2017 and had missed 0.75 games per season from 2014-2017. I totally get not starting with Fyfe and I understand concern over Kelly's groin but he's just not in the same category as Fyfe as an "injury prone" player. Including last year where he missed 7 games through injury and on average he's missed 2 games per season in his… Read more »

Lekdog
Admin

If we don’t count reserves games and disregard injury ruined seasons everyone is a good selection

PizzaSafety
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PizzaSafety

Your point was about how injury prone he is, I'm sorry but how is him playing in the reserves as a 19 year old evidence of how injury prone he is? You said he's never played a full season when he has. Cripps played 3 games in 2014 but you can't add that to how injury prone he is. If you want to remove all context from the reasons why young players missed games early in their career then you have to say that Kelly has played 94 games (100 including finals) and Cripps 81 games since both were drafted… Read more »

Lekdog
Admin

I guess the language I used wasn’t correct. I said injury prone but probably should’ve said he tends to miss games (a lot of players do) but you’ve now convinced me that as long as he has no preseason hiccups with that groin he’s a good pick

PizzaSafety
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PizzaSafety

All good Lek I was just saying games played in the neafl don’t count as a sign that he’s not dependable because now he’s a bloody star and not going to be anywhere near the neafl. The groin is still a concern so I understand you can be hesitant because of that. He still came top 5 in the time trial but did so last year as well so who knows if he’s really going well, I did hear people saying he was going well but who knows

neil demons delight
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Marty Hore and Tom Sparrow turning heads at Melbournes Qld training camp both good options

JohnDJ59
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JohnDJ59

Hi Neil, I've had both on my bench for a while now, so happy with that information.

Sharkmove_King
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Sharkmove_King

Melbourne's 22 is pretty stacked fellas, who cones out for them?

Wombat
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Wombat

Max likes a cone but the rest are pretty straight Sharky

GreendaleFC
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GreendaleFC

We'll have to wait and see but Hore could possibly be Jake Lever's replacement for the first half of the year. Tom Sparrow has looked good at training and I have high hopes for him, but I struggle to see him making the 22 unless there are significant injuries.

Wombat
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Wombat

Hahaha you're a shocker NDD neither of them have a chance before round 6 unless the carlton curse moves south and 50% of the squad joins the injury list.

neil demons delight
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Wombat appropriately named I know Gawn well not puffing now get it right before making comments like that. One of Hore or Sparrow will debut early the other not long..Both in my team. Melbourne are in Mooroochidore at present and one aim is the forwards. Smith Weideman Tommy Mcd and Preuss is their prefered option but Gawn not out of it Two defenders not a lock in the Dees are Lewis and Hibberd plus Smith going forward Oportunities are there for Hore or Sparrow

Wombat
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Wombat

You're a deadset Troll mate, who said anything about Max being unfit and puffing? A penchant for ice-cream doesn't insinuate a lack of fitness so pull your feral head in. As far as Sparrow and Hore are concerned you're as bad as Sharkmove, every year you name every melbourne player that is yet to debut as being the next big thing and never mention the players who breakout (brayshaw) get over yourself you've never ranked inside the top 1,000 in SC and probably never will

Ralph
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Ralph

No need to be such an asshat wombles

asshat
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asshat

Sorry Neil

Ralph
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Ralph

Yeah mate I’m not Neil, sorry to disappoint.

Wombat
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Wombat

I've just been told what you were suggesting Neil.
If you actually did know Max you'd know that he's an ice-cream fiend.
I'm an athlete and like most people on this site I'm not part of the drug culture the you're so au fait with so when I saw the word cone I instantly remembered the big fella down at Loch always having a cone outside his mums cafe whenever he had a break.
You obviously don't know him any better than the other 90,000 in the stands at the G

neil demons delight
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Actually you are wrong I didn't mean that..I meant .Max loves a fag and I was relating to that but I see your point with the cone connection. I live nearby to his mums shop at Phillip Island and bump into him quite often He helps out on weekends.and knows how dedicated a demon I am and have been for over 50 years . Sorry if you took it the wrong way and yes I do go overboard about dee players and haven/t finishefd top 1000 but like most fans I love my team I hope I am correct with… Read more »

TRIGGA_HAPPY
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TRIGGA_HAPPY

I hope u r right too on hore and sparrow as be nice to have a couple of cheap rooks early esp in def

Though just not sure who comes out esp with viney and pruess in the 22?

Long way to go …

neil demons delight
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Hi Trigg need to be at your best against Warney mate in ORIGIN. the coaches like Hore's precision kicking Salem and jetta are also reliable kicks so it will be tough and Sparrows body is there already but the mids are well served too I will back both in

RoyWetard
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RoyWetard

I've tried to put together what I think the best starting team from last season was.
Defs
Laird 550,800, Simpson 516,300, Hurn 487,200 (Murray 123,900
Sicily 402,800, Doedee 123,900, Finlayson 123,900 (Murphy 102,400
Mids
Mitchell 653,500, Oliver 612,800, Macrae 587,800, Cripps 537,300 (Banfield 123,900
Coniglio 452,400, Jacobs 200,100, Kelly 117,300, Holman 102,400 (Fogarty 117,300, Garlett 117,300
Rucks
Grundy 534,700 Gawn 503,700 (Olango 102,400)
Fwds
Heeney 536,300, Westhoff 479,600, McLean 470,200 (Waterman 123,900
Smith 439,100, Darling 397,900, Fritsch 117,300 (Ryan 117,300
Remaining Salary – 124,300k
If somebody advised you a week before the start of last season to pick this team. Would you have followed their advice?

Tyruddanaut
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Tyruddanaut

No! I would steer clear of Hurn and Simpson, but I had everyone else in that backline anyway. No love for Dangerfield? Only finished 5th overall. Macrae would be a bit too risky and who was Jacobs to anyone who didn't like Norf. The rest of the players, minus Fogarty, found their way into the team start of R1. Grundy scorched me the year before so no way Jose. Didn't know Westhoff was in supercoach at that point and frankly didn't care. Darling wouldn't be considered and I had the rest. Overall: I had over 2/3rds (!) of the players… Read more »

RoyWetard
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RoyWetard

Danger missed round 1 and had a slow start (by his standards)

Valens_FC
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Valens_FC

Great post Roy… very thought provoking in terms of what is the ideal starting structure. Last year was a really good year for rookies (especially mature age), but it didn't absolutely lend itself to a straight Guns n Rookies structure when you consider that Sicily, Coniglio, Smith, McLean, Westhoff and Darling (could have you got Hawkins in that place?) were all ultimately good starting selections.

RoyWetard
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RoyWetard

Darling had a strong first half while Hawkins had a strong second half of the season. (Looking back I should've put Fyfe in for Oliver.)

Dan
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Dan

I had 21 of those players and still had prob my worst year in 5 yrs. Doesn't take much to be 1-3 players off and be playing catch up all year.

M-Town Ballers
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M-Town Ballers

I had most those guys and was 19th by round 7

gator59
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gator59

Hi to John Team name Black Flag… I have to leave you league Holy Grail due to having to go into Dereks cash league

Sorry and I hope you fill your league with top coaches… Cheers Gator

JohnDJ59
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JohnDJ59

Hi Gator, sorry to hear that, but at least you joined, most couldn't due to being maxed out, so good luck in the cash league.

gator59
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gator59

Sorry mate but i'm all maxed out also.. GL mate

TMitch
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TMitch

Something for the Worpedo fans to digest James Worpel 11-career games including 2 finals all games virtually without an opponent due to King Tom getting all of the attention 3 x below 40 including 1 final 3 x 40-70 including 1 final 4 x 70-100 1 x 100+ Vs Carlton Opponents- Saints,Bombers,Lions,Blues,Freo,Bombers,CatsSaints,Swans mostly poor opposition with mediocre midfield depth Finals Vs tiges and Dees 11 game average 67.9 2019 SC price $395,700 his B.E. is already 4 points higher than his average Without TMitch he'll get a qualified opponent. Zac Fisher 34 Career games no finals 2018 1 x below… Read more »

TMitch
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TMitch

I forgot to mention that worpels finals average (when he had an opponent) was only 45.5

Wombat
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Wombat

Aaaaargghhhh! Why'd you have to do that? Now that Titch is gone NOT having Worpel was going to be my early POD. Now you've alerted everybody that when he has an opponent he's actually spudpedo.
Thanks mate, not. I might have a look at fisher during JLT though

PJ8
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PJ8

Good piece

Sc_Wow
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Sc_Wow

This is garbage. He was not in the midfeild for a lot of those games so your theory of virtually no oppenent is false.

Without Tom Mitchell there will be a lot more possessions and midfeild time going around.

There was a bloke with a average of 70 in his first year didn't even crack a ton, in his second season he was the 5th overall points scorer.

Zac fisher has just had more games to prove that he is mediocre

Chances are this comment gets removed because it challenges the option of the Jr community

Wombat
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Wombat

You are obviously not WOW (more likely NDD trolling again) because your comment is totally wrong
Vs Carlton Wing = midfield
Vs Freo rotating through midfield
Vs Essendon rotating through midfield
Vs Geelong Wing = midfield
Vs StKilda Rotating through midfield
Vs Sydey splitting time midfield and forward
QF Vs Richmond rotating through midfield
SF Vs Melbourne rotating through midfield

Maybe do some research before your next trolling attempt mate.

Sc_Wow
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Sc_Wow

No it is wow. And you've just proved my point, a few rotations is not the same as full time mid. I had worp in my team last year he played a lot in fwd line.

wombat
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wombat

I didn't prove your point mate I blew your point out of the water and cooked it on the bbq.
The data/facts backed up exactly what I said
You claimed he didn't play midfield in most of those games I showed you that he did play midfield in most of those games.

Maybe this year if you pay attention to people who obviously know a lot more about this game than you do you won't go backwards every week after the byes like you usually do 🙂

SC_Better_Than_you
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SC_Better_Than_you

If you had've started Seedsman last year like I suggested and got Brayshaw before his price rise like I suggested you could have got your first top 100 finish. But instead you chose to call everybody wrong and crashed and burned hahahaha. Unlike me who again stormed into the top 100 after being 2,000+ at bye time.

Hio
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Hio

This is garbage. He was not in the midfeild for a lot of those games so your theory of virtually no oppenent is false.

RoyWetard
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RoyWetard

What I believe to have been the best starting team of 2017, This was soooo much harder than the 2018 team.
Defs
Docherty 591,600, Adams 527,900, Laird 526,800 (Otten 123,900
Marchbank 236,100, McGrath 211,800, Hampton 160,000 (Stewart 117,300
Mids
Neale 612,800, Sloane 591,000, Dusty 588,300, Mitchell 565,600 (Petrevski-Seton 189,300
Kelly 473,800, Murphy 432,500, Oliver 382,500 , Powell-Pepper 135,300 (Pickett 123,900, Parfitt 117,300
Rucks
Kreuzer 398,000, Witts 217,600 (Strnadica 102,400
Fwds
Dahlhaus 520,700, Macrae 511,700, Yeo 409,200 (Houston 117,300
Nankervis 366,400, ANB 264,400 , WHE 213,300 (Butler 123,900
Remaining Salary – 47,400k

TMitch
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TMitch

are you selling tickets for a ride back to 2017 in a time machine Roy? If yes, I'll put 100K on Dusty for the Brownlow if no, whats the point of the post?

RoyWetard
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RoyWetard

I was interested in seeing what the best starting team from past seasons were to see if it could help with this year.

Ewoks*Stormtroopers
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Ewoks*Stormtroopers

Hop on League 556895. Hoping to go top 1%, get on it!

Richard
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Richard

Looking to get into a cash league this year. Let me know if any are abailable please. Cheers

Such is Fyfe
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Such is Fyfe

Hey mate, I'm setting one up.. Email [email protected] Currently got 10 in a Facebook chat who are all keen, just haven't finalised all payments yet. Can add you to that if you're interested! $100 prize structure as follows: 18 entrants x $100 fee = $1,800 prize pool as follows. Champion – $625 Runners up – $300 Minor premier – $100 Highest score of the year – $100 Consolidation award (Winner of Bottom 8) – $100 $25 weekly to the highest score of the week, in the unlikely event the highest score of the week is tied both will be paid… Read more »

bazzaboy
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bazzaboy

just sent you an email about joining up

Daniel
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Daniel

Sent you an email mate

Intel Design
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Intel Design

Sending you an email.

Derek
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Derek

Email [email protected]

I have 3 places in a $20 cash league

Richard
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Richard

Emailed you last night mate, waiting on the reply when you can

Maverick_
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Maverick_

How do we feel about Miles &Libba do we start one? two?
last year i started Coniglio (you beauty!) & libba (buuuuuurrrnnn)
currently have miles locked in but tempted by libba again… oozes so much class when his up n going

gator59
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gator59

Hi Mav you wanted to jump into my league .. The Rat Pack.. Just let me know if you still want a spot .. If so I'll free a spot up for you

Maverick_
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Maverick_

Cheers gator I’d love to jump in if you have a spot

gator59
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gator59

Code is 322190 and give me your team name

Maverick_
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Maverick_

shinBONERS gator

Ja191
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Ja191

Libba is just too injury prone for me mav plus his role is uncertain. Miles on the other hand is a lock for me if you can fit him in, being a tiges supporter he knows how to get the pill and is very durable

NoLanguage
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NoLanguage

I'm starting Miles and Hall pending JLT. Passing on Libba

Derek
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Derek

Libba’s price is appealing. If Greene doesn’t play round 1, I can see Libba being a good option. Also depends where the rookies are. Libya not in my team yet, but he only needs to finish JLT with no injuries and he will be close

PJ8
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PJ8

Great chat boys. Starting to get serious now…

TMitch
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TMitch

LDU was the most hyped rookie of 2018 and in 2019 he's only $8,200 more expensive than his 2018 starting price and $9,800 cheaper than Walsh.
IF LDU was a 'LOCK' in 2018 without having a single AFL game experience why isn't he a super lock in 2019 when he's cheaper than Walsh and has 7 AFL games experience?

Such is Fyfe
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Such is Fyfe

Because we know he's a rubbish pick, both of them are. Rookies are there to make $, #1 rookie always overhyped and will always make less cash than basement rookies. Just about trying to find the right ones with good job security.

BrownlowBoy
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BrownlowBoy

He wasn't a lock though that's the thing.
No expensive rookies are ever a lock.

Derek
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Derek

$100k more you get Libba

neil demons delight
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or WEIDEMAN

hedski
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hedski

There is a good article at AFL.com.au about every team's kick-in specialists, it's a good read check it out.

Krupa
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Krupa

Early days but would like some advice lads. Ruck area I know looks dodgy. Maybe Midfield too deep? Could trade the bont or dusty down to a mid pricer then upgrade mumford. Im stuffed for rounds 1 and 2 if Clarke doesnt play to cover Mummy.

Def: Lloyd, Laird, Whitfield, Williams, Rozee, Collins ( Goddard & Wigg )
Mid: Macrae, Cripps, Fyfe, Bont, Dusty, Stocker, Constable, Bewley ( Collier-dawkins, Valente, Hind )
Ruc: Goldy, Mumford ( Clarke )
Fwd: Danger, Smith, Dunkley, Setterfield, Corbett, Petruccelle, ( Burgess & Cavarra )
Cash left over $53,000

PJ8
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PJ8

I wouldn’t be selecting Mumford even with cover. Think you need to make that change that you mentioned and upgrade him.

I like the midfield. I’m a big believer on spending big there so personally wouldn’t change it, but if you need the funds for Mumford you might have to. I have a similar but even more spend in the midfield but much less in defence. Maybe make a change there to free up dollars.

Krupa
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Krupa

Thanks for the feedback its appreciated

JohnDJ59
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JohnDJ59

Agree with PJ8, a Grundy/Goldy is probably the minimum that you would need in the ruck, you could downgrade Whitfield to a rookie to make that happen, both your mids/fwds seem fine.

Sellars1226
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Sellars1226

Anyone know who Collin O’Riordan from Sydney? Is he promising will he get much game time ?

NoLanguage
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NoLanguage

Anyone else considering Salem? Averaged 104 the last month and Melbourne love it in his hands coming out of the D50. New rules will help him too

Adam
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Adam

Shhh Mate. Dont tell the community about a potential POD who may, thanks to the kick in rules, average an extra 5 points per game AND is at 23 years old with a fairly reasonable price tag.

The Ranger
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The Ranger

On the watchlist

hedski
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hedski

Testing

hedski
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hedski

Ok it's working now, tried to post before but went to administrator for some reason.
There's an article on AFL.com.au about every team's kick-in specialists that is worth a look.

hedski
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hedski

Ah crap

gator59
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gator59

Already read it hedski.. Still makes you none the wiser on who will benefit most

hedski
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hedski

True Gator, just gives you an idea of who takes the majority.

Lekdog
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Hey mate, comments with links need to be approved and I can’t always get to them straight away! Other than that you should be all good to go!

hedski
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hedski

Cheers Lek 👍

gator59
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gator59

Coming in loud and clear Hedski

Ja191
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Ja191

1234

PizzaSafety
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PizzaSafety

Def: Sicily, Whitfield, Witherden, Williams, Quaynor, Hore (Brownlow medalist Tobe Watson, Burgess) Mid: Fyfe, Kelly, Neale, Yeo, Dusty, Walsh, Bewley Hind (Stocker, Constable, Atley) Ruck: Grundy, Gawn (Fort) Forward: Danger, Heeney, Wingard, Setterfield, Corbett, Cavarra (McAdam, M Parker) 47k in the bank, going to use that on the rookies I imagine and spare 20-30k. Zerrett out of contention to start in my side with his syndesmosis, he should be a good post bye get. I think Walsh will be worth the cash because his junior numbers are through the roof and record breaking (34 points more per game than brayshaw… Read more »

PizzaSafety
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PizzaSafety

Maybe but better value with Kelly and Neale in my opinion, think they have more ceiling relative to their price

Sc_Wow
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Sc_Wow

Mini team reveal
Lloyd Laird
Macrea Cripps
Grundy Gawn
Danger Heeney

another 5 keepers in there too

PJ8
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PJ8

I have the same 8 players. Great minds think a like. Now I am interested in the rest….

PJ8
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PJ8

Don’t understand what you are saying???

ToughBretts
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ToughBretts

Curious about which PODs are taking peoples fancy.
Which players over 200k & under 5% ownership are in your current side?
I have Harris Andrews, Zorko, Menegola, Jack Martin, Josh Smith (WCE)

BrownlowBoy
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BrownlowBoy

Nank, TK, Yeo, Mills all under 10%

ToughBretts
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ToughBretts

I love Yeo but decided I'd prefer Matt Crouch for 550k (also 7% ownership)
Mills, Papley, Ainsworth and Andy Mcgrath all on the midfield minutes watchlist

BrownlowBoy
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BrownlowBoy

Yep, also I've been looking at Ryan Clarke from the Swans, Jack Martin who you listed and Bailey Williams.

Adam
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Adam

I would be careful about Bailey Williams. Is young and looks promising but if you take out his 139 in rd 3, his scores vary between 47 – 90. I think he is only good if there is a significant number of WB players injured and he can slot into a possession heavy role.

Otherwise, has a low floor and needs at least another half season to develop his game.

The Ranger
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The Ranger

Very tempted by Menegola

KeenButClueless
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KeenButClueless

I am having a nightmare pre-season. Today was probably the lowest point. I read the AFL website and they have an article on who is taking kick ins. They do it alphabetical order, so from Adelaide I am reading that Brodie Smith might be a big beneficiary of kick ins. Keep reading. Giants – Heath Shaw. Keep reading Melbourne – Hibberd. I already had Short over Witherden. Hmm ok. I already had Mills – the classic preseason midfield minutes – in an intra club. Only 3 forwards, so three rookies onfield. If there is one hate in Supercoach for me… Read more »

ToughBretts
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ToughBretts

Don't overthink the rule changes in my opinion.
They will benefit some players but I can't see any rule change turning a guy from an 85ave to a 100+

As far as the forwards, Will Setterfield, Ned McHenry and Josh Smith (244k) all project to play far more up the ground than traditional forward rookies (Liam Ryan last year, Irving Mosquito this year, etc.)

The chopping and changing is all part of the fun, figuring out different price structures, finding low ownership % guys who could break out. Keep studying! Can never be too prepared 🙂

ZzZCalintZzZ
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ZzZCalintZzZ

Not sure at all what set up to have this year

Lloyd, Laird, Whitfield, Roberton > rooks.
Macrae, Cripps, Oliver, Fyfe, M.Crouch > rooks.
Grundy, Longer
Dangerfield, Wingard, Dahlhaus, Kennedy > rooks.

I learnt from last year, you just pay the big bucks upfront when they will highly likely finish top 3 in their respective position.
I'm most excited about M.Crouch Whitfield, Wingard and Dangerfield this year.

GloryDays94
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GloryDays94

Not a bad set up.
I dont rate Dalhaus anymore and not sure about Kennedy either after injuries all year last year.
Also what is your reason behind Longer?

Nofork&Chance
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Nofork&Chance

Lads, any Jockreynolds Group or Leagues set up yet?

hedski
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hedski

710443 is the JR Group code bud.

Select_and_Forget
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Select_and_Forget

There's a story on heraldsun website about a team that finished top 100 in 2018 without making a single trade! I'm not a subscriber so I couldn't read the full thing but the google results state "It happens every year a team that is seemingly abandoned early in the season finishes top 100. This year……"

Makes me feel a bit poor when I study form every week and run out of trades with 2-weeks to go and still can't break the top 150

PJ8
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PJ8

Copy and paste the link into outline.com and you can read it

Tangles
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Tangles

Geez there are a couple of people that come onto this comment thread and think they are God's gift when it comes to Supercoach knowledge. They clearly don't have much confidence in themselves and come here wanting applause, worship and think they are the guru of all supercoach knowledge. Get a life and stop taking yourself so seriously your not as good as you think you are. It's a pity cause this a great site for those that like to talk supercoach and the majority of comments are constructive. But there are a few who sound like kids when they… Read more »

skindog
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skindog

Grain of salt mate.

skindog
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skindog

That doesnt help bro!

Ja191
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Ja191

That’s life though always going to be different types of people good and bad, this community is generally good though

KeenButClueless
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KeenButClueless

i am a little concerned that might be me. If it is, then i can assure you I never wanted to come across like that, or like a pathetic kid. I don’t consider myself an expert at all. I came onto this site a few years ago, and for the most part tried to extract as much knowledge from better players than me. After a while, I felt that I needed to put back, rather than just take. I am supercoach obsessed so I spend a lot of time here. So if I am coming across badly, I apologise and… Read more »

Skindog
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Skindog

All good bro, don’t stress, everyone’s allowed an opinion, not your fault, sounds like someone has their panties in a bunch, might actually think he’s the best and the king of SuperCoach, by the sounds of it!

ToughBretts
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ToughBretts

These posts are always about people leaving smart-ass or rude replies, dw

neil demons delight
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I rather enjoy your posts Keen even though I have disagreed on some but always something interesting to be read thanks for contributing

PJ8
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PJ8

Always been a great forum to throw ideas out and give personal opinions. I don’t think anyone would consider themselves an expert, a part from the originals and content providers. If you don’t like it, leave.

Josh
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Josh

Here are rookies who are that are training well and too keep an eye on in the JLT

Backs
G, Logue $164,300
M,Hore $117,300

Mid
J,Atley $123,900
B,Bewley $117,300
N,Hind $117,300

Rucks
D,Fort $117,300
J,sweet $102,400

Forward
J,Corbett $123,900
N,Blakey $166,800
B,Cavarra $117,300

I hope this can help

TOPHAWK1
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TOPHAWK1

Nice post Josh. Constructive and timely rook update. Great stuff.

Adam
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Adam

Isnt Blakey injured though?

Beezneez
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Beezneez

Apparently Tom Sparrow Melb mid $117,300 could be added to the list. Ned McHenry and Chayce Jones have been leading the Crows in their 2km runs. However can't see either breaking into the Crows lineup early but who knows? Even though Jones was the Crows no.1 pick and, to me, looks the goods the Crows usually give their draftees time to develop in the 2's. e.g Gallucci although Fogarty was a bit of an exception but he has a strong body whereas Jones needs some time in the gym.

fatboyfat7
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fatboyfat7

Any word on McAdam, will he get a game?

Beezneez
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Beezneez

He looked really good playing for Sturt especially in the SANFL finals. Only time will tell. He'll be vying for a spot probably as a small forward with the likes of Murphy, Gallucci and Stengle with Gallucci having the inside running imo. JLT form as a better indicator. I've decided against him at this stage for those reasons but, if picked round one, he's in for me.

fatboyfat7
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fatboyfat7

Thanks for the info Beez

Matt
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Matt

Hey guys.
I need some help here. Must be a new rule in that im unaware of. Ive completed my team yet when i click save my team it tells me i cant afford that trade…
Very confused..

Is there a cap on what you can spend on each line or something meaning can you only spend like 3mill on your midfield or something like that.. please help

Biggregga
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Biggregga

Go to home and back to team, cheers

Ewoks*Stormtroopers
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Ewoks*Stormtroopers

It's obviously early days, and things will inevitably pan out differently, but so far … Def: Laird, Whitfield, Milera, Williams, Williamson, Logue (Hore, Wigg) Mid: Cripps, Fyfe, Neale, Martin, B. Crouch, Ellis, Stocker, Atley (Constable, Bewley, Hind) Ruck: Grundy, Martin (Fort) Fwd: Westhoff, Heeney, R.Gray, Weideman, Setterfield, McAdam (Corbett, Cavarra) $2200 left. Rooks of course are subject to change. I know Lloyd, McCrae and Danger are notably absent, and of course they'd be great to have – but maybe wait for a price drop? Bit too much mid-price madness? Love to see some thoughts.

Gord29
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Gord29

Would be at least starting danger

Derek
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Derek

Milera will have too many to compete with, can’t seeing him becoming a keeper. If you looking for a POD, Mills is same price and McGrath is $50k cheaper

Derek
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Derek

If you are liking Westoff, you should have a DPP at R3

Gord29
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Gord29

Good point Derek but if fort gets early games you could down grade him comes buys to a dual position then and make some cash

Gord29
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Gord29

Nank and b Smith with 1.7k or Goldstein and Roberton with 21k?

Krupa
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Krupa

Maybe second option is better? I like Goldy this year.

Gord29
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Gord29

im leaning towards it to as the extra cash in the bank may come in handy

TOPHAWK1
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TOPHAWK1

I prefer option 2. Goldy should dominate this year.

Sam
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Sam

Rank the following in order of best to worst;
Sloane, crouch, dusty and brayshaw

De goey or lynch?

Roberton or Brodie smith?

Whitfield or hurn?

Josh
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Josh

I think de goey roberton whitfield it’s hars to choose between roberton and Smith I would choose roberton only for the cash you save you can upgrade another player to a premo

Maverick_
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Maverick_

Hi Sam my thoughts on the above in order best to worst and no doubt everyone is different and may not agree… #1.Dusty – with lynch he wont go forward as often now so more midfield minutes watch him bounce back #2.Crouch- a ball magnet if he can stay fit he is good value but starts seasons slowly n comes home hot #3.Brayshaw – Showed his class in the last 9 rounds. he had 7 scores 110+ and the other two above 80 #4.Sloane – yet to see him break a tag he is shutdown to easy, not for me… Read more »

John
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John

If u had to pick one mid priced mid (under 400k) who would you pick. I'm leaning towards libba as he can make the most cash (hoping to trade him for MACRAE at around 450k

Josh
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Josh

I would go A Miles I’m a bulldog supporter and I don’t know where he is going to play

Derek
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Derek

There is only one place Libba will play

He would be my choice based on his price

skindog
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skindog

Libba will always play in the guts, just depends on how his body holds up, and Macrae wont drop to anywhere near $450k

John
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John

I meant that libba should get to 450

Peter56
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Peter56

I am hoping to go Libba but this question and others like will hopefully be answered in the JLT. Until that happens I am just trying to get the Premos

DavidC
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DavidC

These middle of the road picks like Libba and Miles are worse than the expensive rooks imo. Walsh is tearing it up and would be a better pick because he is cheaper yet people are ruling him out as an expensive rook in favour of those guys. I'm staying away, also don't have Walsh by the way.

NoLanguage96
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NoLanguage96

Miles

Josh
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Josh

I know it’s a long shot but the talk out of St Kilda is that b longer is killing it on the training track and it’s the fittest he’s looked I know he won’t get me hundreds but with the money I saved got me Lloyd and matin so I’m hopeing it will make up the points I lost my rucks at the moment are Goldie longer fort but I have enough cash too go fort too Naismith for back up

Xman
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Xman

As a saints man he will boost his average up to around 85 I believe. Will be the main man all year with a couple of other pinch hitters. As a keeper no but could be an option for a step into goldy or Gawn

Such is Fyfe
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Such is Fyfe

He's in my team.

Stompers
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Stompers

Does anyone know if S Martin will ruck on his own? Also will Grundy will keep his 130 points average from from the start, could be a cash saver to make one of the other lines stronger, but will need a trade to get him later hummmm

Josh
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Josh

they say Martin has a slight back issue he is still training and they say he will be fully fit come round one but it’s just something to keep an eye on

ToughBretts
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ToughBretts

I can’t see his role changing at all this year. McInerney played a bunch of games last year and he was just there to make a contest in the forward line and chop out 5 mins a quarter. Even if Big O or Archie aren’t named it’ll be someone like Marcus Adams taking that 5 mins. I’m starting Martin over Gawn under the assumption Preuss is named round 1 (Gawn has said in the media that he’d like them to play in the same side), as I won’t LOCK Gawn into a 120+ average if he’s sharing some ruck duties

Flagpies
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Flagpies

DEF: Laird, Witherden, Mills, Williams, Logue, Hore (Burgess, Wigg)

MID: Cripps, Oliver, Kelly, Neale, Yeo, Smith, Stocker, Hind (Constable, Bewley, Valente)

RUC: Grundy, Goldstein (Fort)

FWD: Dangerfield, Heeney, Gray, Setterfield, Corbett, Cavarra (Mosquito, Hill)

40k left

Thoughts and opinions welcome.

Whitey
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Whitey

Pretty solid mate, maybe 3 semi mid priced def is one too many but I see their potntial. Maybe try to upgrade one of them.

Adam
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Adam

First Crack for 2019 Boys n Girls
Def.
Laird. Ryan. Witherden.
Williams. Birchall. Wigg.
Clavarino. Hore
Mids.
Cripps. Fyfe. Beams. BCrouch
Miles. Libba. Walsh. Atley
Smith. Bewley. Sparrow
Rucks.
Martin. Westhoff. Sweet
Fwds.
Danger. Degoey. Dahlhaus
Kennedy. Greene. Setterfield
Corbett. Cavarra
24k left any thoughts good bad otherwise

Whitey
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Whitey

Would drop one of the mid price fwds to a rookie then improve Dalhaus, Greene, Kennedy or Degoey. Not sure about Degoey, with Besms turning up his midfield time will be limited, will have big games but could also have some quiet ones. Westoff might not play in the ruck with Lycettcoming in which could change his scoring potential too. Also Birchell unlikely to play until early into the season.

skindog
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skindog

try going a 3 5 2 3 ratio, those players just are not going to cut it mate and you'll be wasting a lot of trades, put a linr through Birch and B. Crouch, and pretty much what the boys above have said,, have another crack mate, then post again?

TOPHAWK1
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TOPHAWK1

Hi Adam, Not sure about this side mate. Dont mind the Luke Ryan selection but that is about it for the positives. On the negative, you have far to many injured/prone players. (Birchall, B Crouch/Libba/Greene/JJK). You also have a number of non keeper premos such as De Goey, Dahlhaus, and JJK. Your ruck combination is iffy also. You really need a Grundy or Gawn in there. IMO there are many far better premo keeper options as well as guys with a much lower injury risk. You are asking to use up a lot of early trades due to the above… Read more »

Adam
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Adam

Bloody cheers guys I’ve deleted most guys out except rookies and I’m re jigging it
Hopefully something comes thru this time but hey it’s only early

skindog
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skindog

Dont worry about Rookies yet mate, get your premos in on each line and then fill the gaps,

skindog
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skindog

Watch rooks in jlt, then see whos name rd 1

Adam
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Adam

Very true, been going well last few years
And this years rattled me a little

TOPHAWK1
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TOPHAWK1

Alrighty folks! Time for my first crack at putting a side together. This is what I have come up with- DEF: Rory Laird, Lachie Whitfield, Zac Williams, Connor Rozee, Griffin Logue, Marty Hore (Callum Wilkie, Harrison Wigg) MID: Jack Macrae, Patrick Cripps, Nat Fyfe, Lachie Neale, Dustin Martin, Anthony Miles, Brett Bewley, Nick Hind (Liam Stocker, Joe Atley, Irving Mosquito) RUC: Brody Grundy, Todd Goldstein (Darcy Fort) FWD: Patrick Dangerfield, Isaac Heeney, Josh Dunkley, Will Setterfield, Christopher Burgess, Ben Cavarra (Mathew Parker, Brodie Riach) I have a few POD players in mind, but I am keeping those close to my… Read more »

skindog
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skindog

I like it Hawk, a few similarities to mine, Ive toyed with blokes like Rozee and Rankine, unless we're struggling for rooks i wont touch the high priced boys, never make enough money and rarely score well, jmo mate, but i like,,

TOPHAWK1
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TOPHAWK1

Thanks skindog. I agree with you on those pricey rooks like Walsh, Collins, Rankine, Lukosius, etc. They more often than not disappoint by not scoring well enough as well as not making enough cash. I have steered away from them for now. I just have a gut feel that Rozee is one exception. He is a gun kid. The JLT will give us more clarity about the rooks as its still very much early days. Cheers mate.

skindog
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skindog

Agree mate, same as Rankine, got talent, JLT is the go for these guys

JohnDJ59
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JohnDJ59

Looking good TopHawk, I won't comment on the rookies since it's still guess work at the moment. I've been tossing up between 13 premos and 9 rookies, compared to 11 premos, 3 mid pricers, 8 rookies and as much as I would like to go guns/rookies, the one with the mid pricers actually looks better.So you are a bit in between my two with 12, 2, 8. Out of the main players I have 8 the same. We are about the same in the rucks and fwd lines, I'm also going with two premo rucks and three premo/rookie fwds Our… Read more »

TOPHAWK1
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TOPHAWK1

Cheers mate! I am very much a guns and rookies man. Just one mid pricer and then 13 premos and 8 rooks.

JohnDJ59
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JohnDJ59

I was as well , but my three mid pricers of Witherden, Williams, who I consider keepers and B.Smith gets me one less rookie than if I had gone pure guns/rookies and I still end up with 13 keepers, so happy with that. PS I count two mid pricers and twelve premos in your current team, you aren't counting Williams $407,800 as a premo are you ?

Whitey
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Whitey

Pretty solid. JLT is so important, if we can find Dodee's and Finlaysons again it means we can go with only 3 premo's at the back and take some risk on mid process. Bring on late Feb.

TOPHAWK1
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TOPHAWK1

Thanks mate. Hanging out for the JLT!

Derek
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Derek

JLT will determine where the rookies are, which will determine where we have our 12th keeper.

I have 2, 5, 1, 3 keepers at the moment, but I’ll most likely want to start with 12. Williams at D3 is almost a keeper that everyone will have. My 12th keeper will start where there is less rookies, at moment it looks like Ruck or Forward.

Lazza
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Lazza

Still a little over 3 weeks to JLT …. the wait is killing me…..

TOPHAWK1
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TOPHAWK1

Thanks Wow. With this structure, I was just short on cash getting Lloyd. Laird should do the business also.

_Kyle
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_Kyle

A solid engine room there mate. Quite similar to mine however im not a fan of fyfe. After learning that the blokes never played a full season iv been turned right off and looked elsewhere. Not an issue that i want any part of. Like the goldy pick. Preuss gone should do him wonders and with him playing along side gawn at the dees there are too many ? Over gawns game imo. Looks a solid team overall. Im still throwing up between lloyd and laird. Curently have lloyd in my team atm. What are your thoughts on greene? If… Read more »

Holty01
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Holty01

Like it Hawk. Very similar to mine except don’t have Fyfe Heeney or Miles. I’m also tossing up starting Andrews from Brisbane as well

TOPHAWK1
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TOPHAWK1

Cheers Holty.

TRIGGA_HAPPY
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TRIGGA_HAPPY

Geez that is a massive engine room there hawk!

Big spend.

Like all of us will depend where the rooks look likely to get a game.

I reckon there may be more rooks in the mids so I have gone one less premo in the mids, one more premo up fwd.

But as happens this time of year constantly revolving/evolving.

TOPHAWK1
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TOPHAWK1

Thanks Trigga. Are you speding more cash down back this year with the new kick out rule? I know some coaches are going 5 premos and 1 rook to try and cash in on potential extra points for kick outs. I am not sure. I have 3 premos and 3 rooks. I may decide to go 4 premos and 2 rooks as a happy medium as I am not 100% sold that defenders scores will increase dramatically. What do you reckon?

TRIGGA_HAPPY
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TRIGGA_HAPPY

Depends if i go Grawndy.
If go GG have pretty much a gnr setup so 3 premo – 3 rooks in def and fwd.

If go.with someone like goldy looking at 2–2 (with williams one of the 2 middies) in def and 4 premo 2 rook.fwd line.

Both look good depends on if and where rooks appear.

Ralph
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Ralph

G'day Toppa, not sure if you know or even if you care but Laird, Whitfield and Williams all share the same bye. Just a heads up in case that changes your structure a bit

Moustachio
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Moustachio

Too much GnR, you need some value midpricers or you'll spend half the season trying to get those 8 potential turds off the field imo.

NoLanguage96
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NoLanguage96

Good lookin side mate!

I've gone with a similar approach (also have Dunkley, Goldy, Fyfe, Neale and the GWS boys down back) but have Oliver instead of Macrae and TMac as a bit of a POD up forward. Too early to tell with the rooks but keep an eye on McKay from North – training very well from all reports.

Harry
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Harry

Trying to pick a semi-bye friendly team, generally what’s a good premium structure for each bye round?

KeenButClueless
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KeenButClueless

If you have 14 keepers, then 3-5-6 or 4-4-6. The logic being in the second bye round you would be adding at least one premium, and in the last bye round you would be adding at least two premiums.

There has been a point of view that you don’t worry so much about the byes and just pick the players you want because it will level itself out across the bye rounds. Whilst I can definitely see both sides, I fall on the plan for the byes side.

KSheedy
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KSheedy

Does Bolton coach the Carlton womens team as well? The women seem to an equally atrocious attack strategy and capability to the men. Although, I reckon if you took Cripps out of the mens midfield the womens midfield would thrash em.
AFL should put us and them out of their misery and kick them back to the VFL they are an embarrassment to our game at every level.

Maverick_
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Maverick_

Would love some feedback on my side community.
Early days so alot will change no doubt once JLT kicks off.
Am worried i may be too mid price heavy with Newman, Miles & Libba all in there & one premo short in the guts.

DEF: Lloyd, Sicily, Witherden, Newman, Rozee, C.Burgess (Wigg Hore)

MID: Cripps, Fyfe, Kelly, Neale, Miles, Libba, Stocker, bewley (Atley Valente Hind)

RUCK: Grundy Goldy (sweet)

FWD: Danger, D.Smith, Heeney, Setterfield, Blakey, Cavarra (Stengle Corebett)

let me have it.
$1100 left over

TOPHAWK1
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TOPHAWK1

Hi Maverick. I like the look of it. I am not sure if Newman will be ready to go come round 1. (Touch and go) Perhaps turn him into a Logue or Quaynor type and use the extra cash to upgrade Libba to a keeper mid premo. One too many midpricers in Libba IMO who is also very injury prone. Other than that, this side is very very solid. Cheers

Maverick_
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Maverick_

Cheers guys solid suggestions TH and I have made a few minor tweaks like ya suggested I think deep down I knew I was one premo short in the engine room..
Newman -> quaynor
Libba -> Merrett
Stengle -> mosquito
Had to make the third move was 2k short of Merrett

Xman
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Xman

Brodie grundy in a massive chunk of teams this year, what’s everyone think Jordan Rougheads role is going to be and will it impact grundys scoring? Similar to preuss he wasn’t drafted to play vfl was he?

Ralph
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Ralph

Roughead was picked up to play mainly as a key defender mate

Blueth
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Blueth

He'll fit right in down there. Loves hobbling off the ground favouring his left leg.

skindog
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skindog

Are people considering Brodie Smith? keeps popping in and out of my side, nice two scores last year, soooo tempted???

dontblushbaby
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dontblushbaby

Mid Pricer , could be a good gamble but not for mate mate, maybes injury proned also , missed a lot last year

Maverick_
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Maverick_

I'm going to pass on him Skindog. hoping there are enough rookies down back to go 3 premium 3 rooks onfield.
If I do need a midpricer ill be watching newman closesly.

DavidC
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DavidC

He teases every year but never quite makes it, not for me. At least Roberton has shown in the past he can be a keeper. He might be worth the risk.

dontblushbaby
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dontblushbaby

C.Mills @ 429K or Z.Williams @ $408K ? I have currently both @ D3 & 4 but not sure if to to keep one or two them or I'm looking at going harder in the FWD's, advice will be gladly accepted

Maverick_
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Maverick_

i think there will be enough def rooks to only have to take 1 at D3 with D4-6 being rookies or turn one of mills/williams into a premo and play the other D4 if your bank allows it.
i like williams for a small cash saving and you know his role at GWS for now.. mills still an unkown till JLT.
His Breakout is coming but who knows when! longmire just needs to throw him in the guts and watch him explode, hopefully soon. watch his preseason closely.

skindog
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skindog

ive thought about Mills to Blush, but ill wait and see where he play, also i somehow replied to yours and Mavs replies on my post but not in my actual post, sorry, dont know how to delete it?

KeenButClueless
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KeenButClueless

I have fallen into Mills the last two years. In 2017 when I had him, I was noticing he was getting to 70-75 by 3/4 time very regularly. So I thought that it would only need natural improvement and he would be a 95 ave defender. He didn’t really go on with it like I hoped in 2018, then he got injured. Now with the possibility of midfield minutes, he’s in my side at the moment (also with Williams at D4). Like you I would prefer a value forward. I just haven’t found one I prefer to Mills in defence.… Read more »

Derek
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Derek

I’ve had Mills last 2 years as well, classic cognitive bias.

He was always going to be a midfielder/forward, but Swans made him a defender. He has been ok but it isn’t his natural position. I watched him at the academy for a couple of years in the guts, no one could touch him.

If he was under $400k I would be considering him. I do like the look of McGrath for $50k less.

Derek
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Derek

Look at McGrath as well

NoLanguage96
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NoLanguage96

Not sold on Mills. Williams however is too cheap to ignore IMO

skindog
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skindog

I agree Blush and Mav, and i hate mid price burnmen, but he can play, even if he makes it to the bye rounds id call that a win, but he has to make it there, think ill flip a coin come 10 mins before rd 1

Dice_real
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Dice_real

maybe you're just too special wow

Shake_n_bake
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Shake_n_bake

I could just imagine how many time wow came on as someone else. 🤔

Dice_real
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Dice_real

I still reckon wow and 66 are the same ppl

hedski
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hedski

You're in my "Hey ho let's go" league aren't you Dice?
Scroll through the team names.

Dice_real
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Dice_real

ah yes haha i see now hedski!

hedski
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hedski

Pretty sure one was "Godd Toldstein" and the other was "Grody Brundy".
There's also been "Bom Tellchambers".
Not sure why you wouldn't just stick to one account, I'd say that's why Lek has shafted them.
Wow made some good points when he stayed on topic.

Dice_real
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Dice_real

Yeah I know, there's a few getting around i'm pretty sure that they're apart of.
No life…..

AuroraBorealis?!
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AuroraBorealis?!

Whats everybodies thoughts on Wingard this year? With titch gone for the season he should get a good crack at the midfield, i'll be watching keenly in the JLT.

NoLanguage96
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NoLanguage96

Overrated. But in Hawthorn's side might score well – JLT wait and watch

skindog
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skindog

Agreed, its an absolute joke!!!

BrownlowBoy
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BrownlowBoy

No offence Wow but with the history of yourself and Sixty6, you cannot blame them for trying to keep the site free of inappropriateness

Ralph
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Ralph

Coniglio or Dusty? Think Dusty will spend more time mid than last year but really like Cogs as a POD.

Lekdog
Admin

Gongiliog in my side

Ralph
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Ralph

Cheers Lek. Remember, the 'G' is silent 😉

Beezneez
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Beezneez

I've got Cogs atm at m5 and had him all last year. Martin is tempting at his price however and I may change. As per usual JLT watch. Cogs may get more ball with Shiels gone.

Beezneez
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Beezneez

Make that Shiel.

Ralph
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Ralph

Thats what i was thinking too, I reckon if I can fit him into my structure I'll go him

Holty01
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Holty01

I’m going Martin.

Ralph
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Ralph

Cheers Holty. Any particular reason of him over Cogs?

Holty01
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Holty01

Durability. See Martin improving from last season so underpriced. Cogs may cop extra attention with the departure of Shiel and Scully. Martin has missed 5 games in 9 seasons. Cogs has never played an entire season.

Ralph
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Ralph

Fair bump. Cheers Holty

TommyC99
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TommyC99

Hey fellas,

Interesting debate, Cripps v Macrae? Both have tremendous upside. I'd ideally love to squeeze them both in but unless i go with an extra midprice, doesnt look like i can get them both in.

Also thoughts on Jack Gunston this year? Tossing up between him and Heeney. Both had 4 scores below 80 last year but Heeney had almost double the tons.

TRIGGA_HAPPY
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TRIGGA_HAPPY

As a little Mexican girl once said:

"Why can't we have both?" 😁

TommyC99
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TommyC99

I have managed to get them both in, at the expense of Heeney and Merrett, and putting in Dunkley. A lot to spend on 2 players in the mids but with no Titch and Danger being locks in the guts, it could be worth the spend

Rick Grimes
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Rick Grimes

Gunston is on my radar. I think he'll be up there in terms of total points.

Peter56
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Peter56

This site had been good this year now suddenly it is going downhill again.
If you don't like what the admins are trying to do leave the site, simples

Lekdog
Admin

We give plenty of chances, people just don't realise we can see when they're commenting as other people or when they send abusive messages but change them later on. Once you've blown it, you're done.

skindog
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skindog

Agree with that Lekdog, only mine got deleted and i didnt abuse anyone?

Lekdog
Admin

Borderline, we're trying to be a positive place for footy 🙂

skindog
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skindog

What do you mean borderline??

Holty01
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Holty01

Depends how you read that comment you made. You obviously meant no malice with it and people like wow thought the same but some (including myself) thought it was sexist. I’ve made comments on this site which I have thought were innocent but some people have interpret it differently.

Skindog
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Skindog

Sorry Holty, wasn’t meant to be sexist, and have never been abusive or anything like that on here, and I’ve been on here for a few years now,

Holty01
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Holty01

I know mate. Certainly not having a go. As I said some Interpret things differently to what they intend to mean. You have simply made a comment that you interpreted differently to what others saw.

Skindog
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Skindog

Cheers Holty👊

Holty01
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Holty01

👍

Dice_real
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Dice_real

Get angry Lekdog! love it

neil demons delight
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great work LEK the site has really kicked on even the podcasts are funny now .Just work on Patches mike NDD

Russty_
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Russty_

Not sure what happened cause I'm off on a Golfing odyssey to the great southwest of our country.
Glad you got that in order Lek, the multiple personality disorder posters/poster, were getting aggressive and abusive again, and then whining about getting persecuted?…LOL rightio then.
Well done mate…better without the drama here 🙂

neil demons delight
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Have you had a hit yet Russty?

Russty_
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Russty_

Hi Mate, yeah had 2 hits so far, played Albany Golf Club today, right on the Ocean, hope you're well mate.

Holty01
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Holty01

Nice to see you back mate. What courses you end up playing?

Russty_
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Russty_

Giday Holty, Played Walpole, Denmark and 2 courses in Albany so far…might play Bridgetown on the way back too, how's your Team shaping up mate?

Holty01
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Holty01

Fantastic so far. I’m actually happy with my side at present which is not common for me this early in the season. I need to start getting back into my golf again. After having kids just very hard to find the time

gator59
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gator59

Hi Holty do you want to jump into the league Magnificent7…code is … 609300.. Cheers mate

Holty01
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Holty01

Thanks Gator. I’m in

gator59
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gator59

Good stuff mate

neil demons delight
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hotley will be great competition in the league Gator Well spotted Hope I can get this problem with my computer sorted Looks like a great year

gator59
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gator59

I would like to see pieman show up because there's a spot left for him if he wants it

TRIGGA_HAPPY
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TRIGGA_HAPPY

Gator
Happy place us open

Russty_
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Russty_

Hey Trigs, any room for me this year?..no probs if not.

TRIGGA_HAPPY
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TRIGGA_HAPPY

Sure thing rusty. Code is 926691

Russty_
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Russty_

Thanks Trig…looking fwd to it mate.

gator59
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gator59

already in trigga

Adam
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Adam

Rightio take 2
Lair. Ryan. Witherden. Williams
4x Rookies
Fyfe. Cripps. Coniglio ?. Beams. Merret
6x Rookies
Martin. Westhoff.
Danger. Heneey. Lynch ? Greene ?
4x Rookies
103k. Left. Proj 1727
Any thoughts Cheers

skindog
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skindog

Hey Adam, Westhoff probably wont have the same role as last year with Lycett being recruited, you really should have one of Grundy/Gawn, cogs is a good pod atm, be careful with Lynch and Green too

Adam
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Adam

Cheers mate, thoughts on Westhoff are he might get up the ground more few more positions
Yeah Greene and Lynch are JLT will sees

ZzZCalintZzZ
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ZzZCalintZzZ

I hope Hanners does not end up with 105 avg after 10 rounds. Be a lot of annoyed coaches if he did.

Rick Grimes
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Rick Grimes

It could happen, but based on what we've see last couple of years, there's just no case for the bloke. I won't be annoyed, just very surprised.

Holty01
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Holty01

I have him and unless he gets injured in jlt, he will be staying. Struggled with injuries last 2 years so hopefully will get a good run at it.

Ja191
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Ja191

Hope he gets back on the p1ss for your sake Holty

Holty01
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Holty01

Lol yeah good call.

Russty_
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Russty_

Hey Dave, I still reckon Miles is a better bet, he's not the waiting bench guy anymore, he'll be the star of the midfield in a once again, up and coming team, also known as poxy lol.
I'm hoping I can use Miles for a stepping stone to someone better anyhoo.

ZzZCalintZzZ
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ZzZCalintZzZ

Nice plan Russty

Rick Grimes
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Rick Grimes

Here's a very risky, possibly shark move (dear I say it). Pearce Hanley. Awkwardly priced at $296k, but apparently is injury free and putting up good numbers. Could play an important role for Suns. If he lasts 10 rounds, can seem being a nice jump to a premo. Few IFs there, mind.

Dice_real
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Dice_real

Like it Grimesy. Had a good year with him 4 or 5 years ago when he was playing on ball

TRIGGA_HAPPY
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TRIGGA_HAPPY

Cant have tooo many suns in def so will probably pass for now but be a sneaky pod

Rick Grimes
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Rick Grimes

What is the communities take on Menegola this year? She's a pretty crowded midfield down there at Geelong. Does he maintain his average? Is probably max priced, but loved his consistency.

Xman
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Xman

In my team. Can only see him getting more mid time with gaz moving more fwd/back. Fingers crossed

Beezneez
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Beezneez

For mine it's between him Heeney and D Smith. Only thing keeping him out is another Geelong player called Dangerfield in my fwd line.

Ryan
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Ryan

Whats everyones thoughts on beams lads

Yeahnah
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Yeahnah

not a bad shout but hard to see him improving from last year in a stacked pies midfield. won't be top 10 imo

ToughBretts
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ToughBretts

He's not in my current side, but Beams' best years all came in the most stacked SC midfield ever. Swan, Pendles and Beams all averaged 120 odd. He was also one of three players from bottom-four teams that ranked top 50 in score involvements, so it stands to reason that a vastly improved team would mean a vastly improved Beams.

ToughBretts
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ToughBretts

(Zorko and Gresham the other two, both should have big years if their teams can improve around them)

Maverick_
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Maverick_

Big fan of beams.. A jet when his up n going
feel his underpriced and I know people are weary of the pies stealing points from each other but there are Plenty of points to go around. Watch his JLT closely Ryan I know I will be mate.

Rick Grimes
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Rick Grimes

Here's where I'm at:

Laird, Ryan, Williams…rookies.
Macrae, Cripps, Cogs, Yeo, Steele….rookies.
G & G…rookie.
Menegola, Heeney, Gray, Dunkley…..rookies.

Will almost certainly change completely.

ZzZCalintZzZ
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ZzZCalintZzZ

I personally think Wingard can match Gray in the mid to high 90's for less coin

Rick Grimes
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Rick Grimes

You could be right. Gray will be needed in the middle which should push him back to a 105-110 ave, imo.

Kind person
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Kind person

No danger. Interesting one.
Hope this doesn't offend you but I'd put the number one forward in my team

Rick Grimes
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Rick Grimes

I've heard Danger isn't 100% fit. Think I'll wait for him to be $100k cheaper.

Kind person
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Kind person

No worries mate could be good for Leagues

Holty01
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Holty01

Love the Steele selection Rick. However I’ve backed him last 2 years and hasn’t live up to the potential I was hoping for. I’ve been scared off him now. He is a gun though and this may well be his breakout year. Good luck

The Ranger
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The Ranger

This weeks team…13 keepers, a stepping stone and rookies.

Laird, Witherden, Williams, rookies
Cripps, Macrae, Fyfe, Kelly, Treloar, Miles, rookies
Grundy, Goldie, Fort
Danger, Heeney, Menegola, rookies

NoLanguage
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NoLanguage

Righto boys and girls, welcome back to 2019!

Rough first draft would love some feedback – have left most rooks out pending pre season footy.

B – Laird, Sicily, Williams, Roberton
M – Cripps, Oliver, Fyfe, Neale, Hall, Miles
R – Grundy, Goldy, Preuss
F – Danger, TMac, Dunkley, Setterfield

GloryDays94
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GloryDays94

How many people are going 2 keepers and 2 mid price in DEF?
Seriously considering it with Williams and Smith

Kind person
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Kind person

3 keepers 1 mid

TOPHAWK1
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TOPHAWK1

I am contemplating 3 keepers and 1 mid also. Just in case kick out defenders do pick up their scoring with the new kick out rule. Not going to get carried away and unhinge my overall team structure for the sake of it.

ZzZCalintZzZ
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ZzZCalintZzZ

Lloyd is too expensive.
Laird and Whitfield are the 2 easiest choices, rest not so much

Nice person
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Nice person

Lloyd is a must have *
No offence

BlueBaggerJosh
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BlueBaggerJosh

Thoughts on Kelly or Menegola? bit of a stacked midfield at the cats

Holty01
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Holty01

Both will score well and be keepers but neither are in my current team

Russty_
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Russty_

Hi Josh, I'm thinking about Kelly this year, reckon he could get to a ton average or thereabouts..was pretty solid last year.
Menegola probably less of a risk though.

Derek
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Derek

Will a player score points for a kick in after a behind if they kick it from within the goal square?

What if they put their toe 1 cm over the line as they kick it?

Please don’t say they don’t get points for the first one but they do for the second?

PJ8
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PJ8

I have wondered the same thing as I read the rule as that being correct. If part of the player leaves the square it is counted as a kick.
Apparently it will be decided by the champion data staff on the day. So I would say it is at their discretion

Derek
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Derek

Old habits die hard.

Ryan kicked to himself once last year. Once!

He might start the season kicking out of the goal square out of habit, but as the season goes on and he/they realise they have an extra 5 m to run, the kicks will be outside the square.

This is huge!

kevwal
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kevwal

This IS huge. I don't think it will take long for players to grab that extra 5m, they MUST be training for it already. JLT will show how much affect this extra 5m will have on the game. It was mentioned in an earlier thread, the big running wingers are going to be gold for SC.

redgumwon
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redgumwon

Hey Derek check your email for info on the Draft league for this year

Derek
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Derek

Thanks mate

BlueBaggerJosh
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BlueBaggerJosh

Taylor Adams, Jack steele, Nick Newman and Goldstein
Or
Coniglio, Kelly, Witherden and Mumford with whichever ruck rookie plays covering him for 2 weeks
?

Derek
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Derek

Whatever combination doesn’t include Mummy. Are you really considering him?

Why did he retire in the first place? What has changed except he is 2 years older.

PJ8
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PJ8

Yep agree, no Mumford

Burt
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Burt

Michael Gibbons? When is this lad going to be available to select in SC? Rookie price I hope?

Northernsoul74
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Northernsoul74

Needs to get picked up yet. Assume Carlton will take him but they haven’t yet.

The Ranger
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The Ranger

Hey Northern, off topic but whats your take on Libba?
Are you thinking of starting him?

Northernsoul74
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Northernsoul74

Yep he’s in my team. Flying in training, ha I guess to be held back if anything. Slight question mark over how all the Dogs midfielders fit in but that’s what JLT is for.

The Ranger
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The Ranger

Hmmm…been tossing up between him and Miles all preseason so far.
Thanks for the intel mate.

Lazza
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Lazza

Carlton has 2 spots to fill now with Bugg retiring. Under the new rules they can replace him. If Gibbons does get a go there, he never will.

Lekdog
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Blues actually have three spots to fill now I believe

Holty01
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Holty01

It’s beyond me why he has not been drafted. Has so much ability but keeps getting overlooked. Surely he is better then a lot of these other kids who get drafted. Let’s hope Carlton pick him up as it would be fantastic for sc but being a Carlton supporter also, he would slot straight into our midfield.

Derek
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Derek

Have the Hawks looked at him?

TRIGGA_HAPPY
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TRIGGA_HAPPY

Blues are just waiting for JLT to see how he goes in a match and fits with structures.

Will be drafted by the blues and word is with lineup rd 1 with Walsh.

Lekdog
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