PODCAST: Our terrible, awful, no good, very bad first teams

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Lekdog · 25/01/2019 at 07:48
Think they all will end up boring Rust, it's the smart move

GloryDays94 · 26/01/2019 at 13:59
Better being safe and more boring than going way to risky and completely ruining the season

Richard · 05/02/2019 at 21:06
Guys join 392941 … Avg score 2120 plus….. 2-3 years experience preferred

Lekdog · 25/01/2019 at 09:30
Fair, Cogs had three year's of 90+ while Miles has had 3 year's of 89.9+
Cogs is better no doubt, has a higher ceiling and set himself up as a keeper going into last year. But no one thought he'd be a keeper, everyone thought he'd be a safe stepping stone, that's the similarity to Miles. He'll be a safe stepping stone, he just down't have the upside that Cogs has proven he has.

JohnDJ59 · 25/01/2019 at 22:13
I had Cogs down as a keeper, in that I wanted to keep him and was hoping that it would be worth it.

Daveh · 04/02/2019 at 23:22
Nonsense. The bloke had a 105 season to his name, there was plenty who had him as M8 planned. To say they both have had 3 90+ seasons sarcastically if extremely silly.
Miles can easily average around the 85-90 mark in which case he is a slow burn and not worth it.

Lekdog · 25/01/2019 at 19:22
Thanks mate!

PJ8 · 25/01/2019 at 12:00
Mixture of each for me:
Yeo & Witherden
Use extra money elsewhere

Rivo · 25/01/2019 at 12:36
Cheers PJ. I’m struggling to part with Macrae. If he goes huge again, it’s going to hurt.

Godd_Toldstein · 25/01/2019 at 13:02
Is there any reason that he won't go big again?

Ja191 · 25/01/2019 at 13:26
Haven’t really read up on how he’s tracking but his hammy injury could possibly slow him down from last season/be of concern

strings · 25/01/2019 at 14:25
A hammy from last year!? C'mon

Northernsoul74 · 25/01/2019 at 14:36
Macrae is fine.

DavidC · 27/01/2019 at 08:11
Libba

Lekdog · 25/01/2019 at 19:23
Gotta have Macrae, I've just about convinced myself since the pod that I'm cooked without him. Ownership % will impact my choice

Rivo · 25/01/2019 at 21:04
Thanks Lek. Macrae becomes M1. Running Witherden at D3. Geez I can’t wait!

Patch · 25/01/2019 at 17:41
Taking on the Cox Curse – don't say we didn't warn you! Such a huge cash setback as well – I can't see myself going the duo.
As someone with Witherdon and Yeo I'm a bit torn – especially how much I love Macrae – but I reckon Option 1 at this stage

Rivo · 25/01/2019 at 18:43
Curse will be broken Patch. I’m leaning to Option 2 but genuinely wavering. Bring on the pre season already.

Rivo · 25/01/2019 at 19:18
I should also add that Witherden/ Simpson are my current D3 (have Lloyd & Laird). Yeo was M4. Macrae would become M1.

Finnius · 25/01/2019 at 18:20
Witherden and Macrae

Rivo · 25/01/2019 at 12:56
Avoid Armitage. Low ceiling and aging body. Plenty of other options around that price – Higgins, Dahlhaus, Worpell as examples.

Patch · 25/01/2019 at 17:42
Agreed Rivo. Saints players in general are worrying me, even with Roberton in my side.

gator59 · 25/01/2019 at 17:27
Do NOT pick Armitage….. Buuurrrnnnnn man

Dovaas · 01/02/2019 at 22:15
Hannebery is more likely than Armitage to get back to past glories. Aviod him unless he hits surprising supercoach form

James · 25/01/2019 at 13:00
I'm just going to say yes or no..
Viney-no
Taranto-no
Jjk- potentially
Williams- yes
Zorko – yes
Crisp – yes if taking kick ins at Collingwood (is he?)

PizzaSafety · 25/01/2019 at 14:55
Viney – no
Taranto – potentially
JJK – potentially
Williams – yes
Zorko – no
Crisp – I think Howe takes their kick ins? how much he does determines the answer to that question.

GreendaleFC · 25/01/2019 at 18:44
Viney – possibly yes, has been training well
Taranto – no
JJK – More no than yes
Z Williams – yes but there might be better options, such as kick in takers
Zorko – No
Crisp – No (doesn't take kick ins)

Flagpies19 · 27/01/2019 at 14:56
Kick ins are taken by Howe and Maynard.

Lekdog · 25/01/2019 at 19:25
Viney -No
Taranto -Number stack up for a potential breakout but we're not talking 110+ here we're talking 90+
JJK-Will score 200 in round 1 then miss 2 rounds
Williams Yes
Zorko-wait and see, no to start
Crisp-Need to see Pies lineup

Godd_Toldstein · 25/01/2019 at 13:03
Do you have to have any of them

Northernsoul74 · 25/01/2019 at 14:37
Libba. He’s flying in preseason.

Phat phuc · 25/01/2019 at 15:52
Hall

Patch · 25/01/2019 at 17:43
Miles for mine, although Libba could be a good bet.

Lekdog · 25/01/2019 at 19:25
Miles or Hall, haven't even considered Rocky, can't imagine he provides too much value

Micky Donovan · 25/01/2019 at 14:22
McGrath will def improve his ave but not enough to make him a keeper and he won't make you enough money to be a viable option IMO. Much better options out there

Patch · 25/01/2019 at 17:44
I reckon this is the right call. A lot of competition for spots in that Essendon midfield and I'm not willing to take a punt. I reckon he'll break out, but will he finish the season as a top eight player? I don't see it at this stage, but I'm willing to be proven wrong!

Phat Phuc · 25/01/2019 at 23:05
We dont need him finish top 8 Patch we just want him to make some Yuans.
He's a smart footballer and Brains beats braun

Phat Phuc · 25/01/2019 at 15:54
Very probable Harry. if he gets high mid minutes in JLT and does well I'll lock him in

Dovaas · 01/02/2019 at 22:32
Ultimately a watch preseason option. Started very well in Essendon hit out today with midfield time.

Phat Phuc · 25/01/2019 at 15:55
Did they fix Robertons Heart?

Patch · 25/01/2019 at 17:44
Apparently they have, yes

Phat Phuc · 26/01/2019 at 17:24
Big risk, I wanna see him play 80 minutes in every JLT match before sign him up.
They also reckon that they fixed Kreuzers heart problem but there's no info anywhere as to what that issue was so I'm skeptical that they could have fixed it if they don't know what it was.
Sounds a bit like my Ferrari mechanic "I don't know what the rattle noise was but we fixed it. That'll be $3,500 thanks Mr Phuc".

Russty_ · 26/01/2019 at 17:56
Yeah right, at $130 an hour a mechanic makes out like a bandit whatever they do to your depreciating shitbox these days lol, back on the Kreuzer issue, I'm kinda glad I haven't decided to go with him now, I forgot about his heart scare, and then I remembered his groin issues and foot issues, and now he's over 30, so is Goldy but at least he's pretty durable.

Patch · 25/01/2019 at 17:45
Lloyd and Sicily is a massive D1+2 combo and I like it. Goldy an astute pick this year I feel.

Lekdog · 25/01/2019 at 19:28
Welcome aboard mate! Piece of advice is to grab an intensedebate account for the comments, makes it easier to track responses
I think you've nailed you first draft here. Roberton the question mark but I like a team without pods for pods sake.

Tyruddanaut · 28/01/2019 at 17:54
It's worth mentioning that Greene, Sicily and Merrett have been set-back during pre-season via injury. All (except Sicily) are still not in training
Your team features a lot of sub-premiums (less than 500k Fwd/Def and 575k Mid/Ruck) and few uber-premiums (600k+). Goldstein, Williams, Greene, Martin and Merrett are examples of players who could be fiddled with. I have had all but Goldy in my team, but here's why I changed them.
Dusty – Will likely be played up forward more often, or at an equal rate to this year due to injury risk and midfield depth at Richmond
Goldstein – 30 years old and well past his prime. More likely to decrease in value than increase.
Williams – Never averaged as a premium, people mainly going off hunches. Had entire season off, which rarely helps and often hinders.
Greene and Merrett – Pre-season niggles

Dovaas · 01/02/2019 at 22:28
I wouldn't avoid high price rookies. They average more than those outside top 10 with more success over 60 "in general". Walsh this yr is a near known rookie that should get you 60+ at most conservative estimate. For me, Walsh, Setterfield, Collins are good selections. Nick Blakey starting to put hand up today and is a watch now.
If we are lucky, we get to fill rookies with cheap options but the odd top 10 draftee is worth the time.

huh · 25/01/2019 at 14:24
Not sure how you can explain that people starting gold will not be able to get gawn

Russty_ · 25/01/2019 at 22:09
It's more difficult than you think huh, there are always more important issues to attend to….than sideways trades, it seems..and you usually need to do 2 trades to make it happen.

Patch · 25/01/2019 at 17:47
The ruck line will be chopped and changed a lot this pre-season and it's painful. I'm still worried by Pruess' impact on Gawn – I reckon they both play

neil demons delight · 25/01/2019 at 19:30
It's pretty obvious at the dees training Pruess will play forward like Cox but the biggest mover at the Dees is Hore. Coaches are mighty impressed with him A ranging beautiful kick he will find it hard to get a gig but Smiley is in my team

dvj · 27/01/2019 at 16:56
Shhhhhh on Fort!

Godd_Toldstein · 27/01/2019 at 21:35
North have the last bye. Perfect time to bring gawn in. Start any other ruckman and you'll still need 2 trades to get gawn in. Imo goldy could close the price gap between himself and gawn

fatboyfat7 · 30/01/2019 at 20:44
I just saw too that if Fort does start, he first two games are potentially against Grundy and Gawn….

Ja191 · 25/01/2019 at 15:05
you need to address your ruck situation. You can make a case for leaving one of grundy/gawn out but you definitely need one of them

Patch · 25/01/2019 at 17:48
A lot of brave picks in McCluggage, Curnow and Burton – I'd personally dial one or two of them back but this time of year is where speculation shines

Lekdog · 25/01/2019 at 19:29
Agree but also think there's plenty of value there too…gonna be make or break

Worpeltinger · 26/01/2019 at 05:27
Agreed, I'm curious to see how the new rule plays out in JLT but won't be going less than 4, even contemplating 5 to bring in another kick-in specialist like Witherden. That will depend on how the rule plays out in practice.

Lekdog · 25/01/2019 at 19:29
Great question…I'll tweet the world and get back to you

Dice_real · 26/01/2019 at 11:48
Thanks big fella

Richard · 05/02/2019 at 21:09
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Dice_real · 06/02/2019 at 09:59
I'm in

Patch · 25/01/2019 at 17:49
Hmmmmm he could well be a sneaky one – for mine, if I'm spending that much I'd probably want a tried and tested premo, otherwise I might look at a cheaper option. But one to consider, absolutely

Box · 26/01/2019 at 20:31
I bought him in late last season and he burnt me big time………………………..never again.

Russty_ · 26/01/2019 at 20:38
Yeah unfortunately..for me!..he's a shit player in a shit team….avoid at all costs….moa foers.

Finnius · 25/01/2019 at 18:22
Hi shake – I was Lloyd Pope last year but my team name has changed. Finnius’ frothies are happy to join :). We killed it as a league last year so hopefully can do it again.

Shake_n_bake · 25/01/2019 at 18:32
Great Finnius. Hope to get everyone back

neil demons delight · 25/01/2019 at 20:03
It was one of my strongest leagues Finn From my memory you beat Shake by about 180 in the G/F I finished on top but tradeless Bombed out quick Not this year good luck Finn

Finnius · 26/01/2019 at 13:01
It was a great league NDD. My GF score was my best for the year so lucky to get up in that regard.

Russty_ · 25/01/2019 at 21:30
Aren't you still a bit young to be drinking frothies Finn?…need to change your profile line too mate.

Finnius · 26/01/2019 at 13:00
Ahh thanks russty – change it now. And I’m just hitting my prime 🙂

Russty_ · 26/01/2019 at 18:21
Yes you are mate…rumble young man rumble! 🙂

gator59 · 25/01/2019 at 19:27
I'm back in Shaker.. The Instagator.. cheers mate

Shake_n_bake · 25/01/2019 at 19:32
Awesome Gator

Russty_ · 25/01/2019 at 19:41
Giday Shake, I was underdorks last year, changed it this year, cheers.

Shake_n_bake · 25/01/2019 at 20:18
Name change maybe thats all youll need to clean up Russty!!

Russty_ · 25/01/2019 at 20:20
I wish mate!….very tough League with some top coaches in there mate…best way to spend your season! 🙂

neil demons delight · 25/01/2019 at 19:54
Hi Shake waiting for this one. Proud to be a member of CAZALY again Best of luck SHAKE

Shake_n_bake · 25/01/2019 at 20:17
Welcome back Neil 😊

hedski · 25/01/2019 at 20:19
CAZALY!
Cracking league Shaker.

Shake_n_bake · 25/01/2019 at 20:58
Will be great 👍

TRIGGA_HAPPY · 25/01/2019 at 21:19
Count me in shakers
Ill give you 7 Reasons Why.

Russty_ · 25/01/2019 at 21:25
What are these 7 mythical reasons why Trig..7 Reasons Why…what? 🙂

TRIGGA_HAPPY · 25/01/2019 at 21:32
Why I fell off the pace last year but wont this year
Macrae
Grundy
Whitfield
Dunkley
Brayshaw
Zerrett
Roberton

neil demons delight · 25/01/2019 at 21:50
How many were in the same boat TRIGG Really thinking about Brayshaw Don't think two dees will hurt in the mids

Russty_ · 25/01/2019 at 22:01
I think he could go premo this year Neil, he showed the signs last year, was only head injuries and silly helmets holding him back the year before.

TRIGGA_HAPPY · 25/01/2019 at 22:01
Yep this year started with who i wanted but missed on last year and built from there.

Russty_ · 25/01/2019 at 21:57
Ah ok, I wasn't able to obtain Macrae last year, that's something peeps don't realise, if you don't start with a certain player and they go nuts, they remain unaffordable.
I didn't have most of those guys last year either, got Grundy in when I could, had Whitfield to start but got rid of him right before he started improving his scores haha

Rick · 05/02/2019 at 21:22
Its all in first 2 rounds. If your team shapes well you end up well but if you are forced to shuffle your cards in first 2 rounds thats how the season ends.

Shake_n_bake · 25/01/2019 at 22:12
Had some great games last year Trigg! In hindsight so many things we all could av done differently players we started with, when to pull the trigger on players, ones to get in and ones you just miss out on. Im hoping to just limit that this year!! Good luck 🍀😉

Peter · 26/01/2019 at 07:44
McBasketball is aboard and a seasoned coach. Thanks for invite

sc tragic · 26/01/2019 at 09:53
Hope I haven't overstepped I've just joined your league, Penske file, competitive player, Thanx.

Intel Design · 26/01/2019 at 20:19
Is this a cashie?

BrownlowBoy · 27/01/2019 at 09:58
I'm in Shake!
I was Cardinal WorPel last year but now Blakes Hard Wick
Cheers for the invite!

hedski · 27/01/2019 at 10:14
I was hoping you'd recreate your league from last year again BB, I'm in mate, go cattas!

Shake_n_bake · 27/01/2019 at 10:26
Good to know BB. Just waiting on Derek. Im sure once he reads this post we will have another awesome league.

Rockburner · 28/01/2019 at 15:25
Happy to be back ready for another crack

Shake_n_bake · 28/01/2019 at 15:42
Looks fwd to our matches Rock! Good luck for the yr.

Lekdog · 25/01/2019 at 19:29
Yasssss

Russty_ · 25/01/2019 at 22:11
The wine where I live, in the Margaret River Wine region, is pretty good, it gets you pissed if you drink enough of it…hope that helps.

The Golden Ticket · 25/01/2019 at 20:34
Hey Russty, would love to included as one of the newbies if anyone of the regulars is unavailable. Managed to finish last year inside top 750 thanks to the help of the community. Let me know. Good luck to all this year

Russty_ · 25/01/2019 at 20:49
No worries Ticket…I've got you pencilled in, not sure who is keen or not yet..I'll let you know, could take a little while though.

KeenButClueless · 25/01/2019 at 22:05
Singapore Flyers on board!

Russty_ · 25/01/2019 at 22:16
Beauty Keen, welcome mate…Hope to have a fun, competitive season for all.

Phat Phuc · 25/01/2019 at 23:02
Crocofiles
Thanks Russty I'll try and sign up tomorrow

Russty_ · 25/01/2019 at 23:16
No worries mate take your time, look forward to having you onboard.

Nick · 26/01/2019 at 00:10
Hey Russty_ my team name is King Rooboy

Russty_ · 26/01/2019 at 00:20
Giday Nick, I'll whack you on the alternate list mate but it is invite only….some might not want to start so I'll contact you and let you know mate.

WTFoxtrot_58 · 26/01/2019 at 01:59
WTF is in Russty…thanks….guessing I'm one of the newbies!!

Peter · 26/01/2019 at 07:46
McBasketball is in – seasoned coach, but enjoy your comments

Godd_Toldstein · 26/01/2019 at 10:14
Mclovin is in

GloryDays94 · 26/01/2019 at 13:55
Hey Russty
Hope you dont mind me joining 👍

Russty_ · 26/01/2019 at 16:19
Hey GD, I actually invited you to the other league mate, jr 18 megaleague, jump out of jollys and into that one instead 381946.
I posted it in the other thread. cheers

_Kyle · 26/01/2019 at 14:39
Id be interested rusty 👊🏼

Callum · 26/01/2019 at 15:44
i’m interested rusty

Russty_ · 26/01/2019 at 16:54
Hi guys, just repeating this is invite only for the names on the list, no offence to anyone but please don't just jump in, there's 4 that have.
If Miss Ya Titch (Damian) and Tiger Tough (Barry) are on the list please let me know, otherwise I'll have to remove your teams.
That's why I asked for your Team Names, cheers fellas.
To Nick – King Rooboy, McBasketball, Kyle and Callum I'll post here if there's spots available guys…cheers, thanks for your understanding.

Boris_Baconbeer · 26/01/2019 at 17:53
Me Please 😀

Russty_ · 26/01/2019 at 22:00
Hey Holty, there's been an eviction mate, jump in if you're up for it…cheers.

Rivo · 27/01/2019 at 07:21
Thanks Rusty. Count me in!

dontblushbaby · 27/01/2019 at 09:23
Just joined Russty ,Cheers

Skindog · 27/01/2019 at 09:39
I’m in, great stuff Rusty

Russty_ · 28/01/2019 at 20:55
Hi Skindog…team name please mate?

skindog · 29/01/2019 at 09:56
Rise of the Worpel

Russty_ · 30/01/2019 at 03:57
Jump in mate 🙂

BrownlowBoy · 27/01/2019 at 11:45
Strong league here Rusty!

Bob · 28/01/2019 at 12:30
Russty*

Rivo · 27/01/2019 at 15:49
Just joined the league. Thanks Russty. Team name “Snags”

BadgerHoney7 · 28/01/2019 at 12:09
I'm in mate, Women and AFL

Tyruddanaut · 29/01/2019 at 13:24
Sorry for the wait, but Carlton's Premiers are ready for a 23 win season 😛

Rabbits16 · 30/01/2019 at 14:06
Swans19

Maverick_ · 30/01/2019 at 21:06
Im In Russty_.
ShinBONERS is the name
appreciate the invite!

Russty_ · 25/01/2019 at 22:08
Hi Godd, he's totally in my team next year if he can pop that 80 average barrier and get 95 this year.

Russty_ · 25/01/2019 at 20:25
I think I stuffed my team beyond repair Hedski, might have to do an autofill…LOL

Russty_ · 25/01/2019 at 21:20
Hey Gator, I read an article in the Herald Sun that said right now it's between Fort and Stanley for the Cats, and considering Stanley started out as a fwd he could be more suited down there, hopefully the Cats will give Darcy a go and he does well, if he starts round 1, I might start him R2 and whack another big gun on another line.

gator59 · 25/01/2019 at 21:29
Yeah i'm thinking along the same line Russty with Fort,, But would you be game enough to start Grundy and Gawn and them having the same bye round and fork out $1.4 mill and set and forget

neil demons delight · 25/01/2019 at 21:44
I am GAT with SWEET It is a lot of coin but think of the lost points

gator59 · 25/01/2019 at 21:50
It's a hard one neil but it's gunna be hard to get either one in down the track and yes the lost points
What do you think of Harmes as a smokey

neil demons delight · 25/01/2019 at 22:24
Depends on price but yes well in

Holty01 · 25/01/2019 at 23:38
Hey Neil. How are you mate? You seem to know ur Demons well so do you think Preuss may effect Gawns scoring ability?

Russty_ · 25/01/2019 at 21:52
Absolutely mate, we only need the best 18 scores on the park for that week, and so what if ya only lose one bye round if it doesn't work out?
The rest of the year will work out with the 2 best rucks in you corner..but other lines would obviously suffer…I was set on Kreuzer, but am unsure about that now, and opted for Grundy / Goldy for now.

gator59 · 25/01/2019 at 22:15
I was looking at Kruez but the two big G's might have to be the go and the other big G will be third

Holty01 · 25/01/2019 at 22:54
Hi mate. How have you been? Great to see you still around the site

gator59 · 25/01/2019 at 23:00
Hi Holty good to see you back .. Now get stuck into your side and have fun

Rick Grimes · 26/01/2019 at 07:11
I don't see Gawn scoring the same as last year. Think he'll still be top 2 ruck, but about 10 points shaved off his ave. So around 115-120. I see Goldy increasing his ave by 5-10, so around 110-115. Ergo, similar output for $150k less. Grundy my clear no1 pick and happy to stump up for him.

neil demons delight · 26/01/2019 at 07:54
Hi Rick JLT will have a huge impact on where the dees see Pruess.The saints and cats would love to have him wouldn.t be dismissing the all aust. no. 1 ruckman just yet NDD

Phat Phuc · 26/01/2019 at 09:44
By 2 big guns do you mean Grundy and NicNat?

Such is Fyfe · 31/01/2019 at 19:21
Hey mate, got a $100 cash league going email [email protected] for details

Russty_ · 25/01/2019 at 23:13
Hi Holty, good to see you mate, keep a spot open cause I'll try to slot you in to one of my two leagues, if anyone's not interested but if not I'll start a new one, cheers bud, don't be so bloody late next year lol.

Holty01 · 25/01/2019 at 23:34
All good mate. Been a hectic few months for me so finally had the opportunity to log on to see how the community is going. Seems all the regulars are back which is great to see.

Russty_ · 25/01/2019 at 23:42
Hope everything's ok with you mate, yeah the JR Site's looking like it has good attendance again, was dead before SC opened but then fired up, had a few problems with spam and quite a few people not being able to post when they want to but hopefully admin are sorting that stuff out.
The flog factor has reduced this year, and there are some great new posters around the traps with some great info.., if you have any issues posting, email me and I'll let Lek know about it.

Holty01 · 26/01/2019 at 00:10
Cheers mate. Will probably start my research on the rookies next few weeks as I think I know who I want as my promos. Will probably leave Gawn out if a rookie is playing 1st round as Preuss playing now scares me off Gawn a bit

neil demons delight · 26/01/2019 at 07:47
Good to see you back again Hotly. I have been to many dees training and Pruess is being groomed to be a big cox. I don't think it will dramatically effect Gawn and it may not even work. The new rules will help Brayshaw more than any other demon .I am so tempted to make him M5 instead of Harmes cheers mate NDD

gator59 · 26/01/2019 at 09:34
That's why I asked you about Harmes Neil… Just interested on how he's tracking and whether he's worth gambling on

Rakesh Mohan · 30/01/2019 at 21:14
come and have a go at 488616. Last year average was 2100+

gator59 · 26/01/2019 at 09:20
What !!!!! Watts is gone !!!! How !!!! When !!!! Why !!!! The number 1 draft pick that's as handy as a hip pocket in a pair of undies…. Ahh I see now why Port got him to take over the no 1 ruck roll after Ryder, Lycett and The Hoff retire

gator59 · 26/01/2019 at 09:26
On another one Neil it's great to see Shelley Scott sharing the Captains roll with Daisy…. She's the daughter of one of my mates Peter that I grew up and played footy with….. The little dairy farmer from Gerangamete about 10 minutes south east of Colac who would've ever thunked that hey

neil demons delight · 26/01/2019 at 10:10
Did you see your other mate on the cricket === Hodgey. They reckon he could have made it.Daisy wont play she is having a baby and good luck to Shelley.might get a gig at saints with the other girls

gator59 · 26/01/2019 at 10:22
No I didn't see Hodgey.. But he was lightning with the ball.. He'd still trundle around mid to high 130's now… He has such a graceful action and runs in like Michael Holding

Phat Phuc · 26/01/2019 at 09:43
I doubt that Preuss would have knocked back offers from 4 or more AFL clubs to play VFL Neil. I know you love Max and want him to be #2 most selected supercoach ruck but it's more likely he'll be 4 or 5.

neil demons delight · 26/01/2019 at 10:13
All the better for me but if the experiment fails then we all get him Goldy and Nank wont be cashcows so why not get the best

gator59 · 26/01/2019 at 10:24
Agree with you neil

gator59 · 26/01/2019 at 09:11
Iv'e made the same observation Rick … I'm still looking at pure guns down back.. In fact i'm going pure Guns'n' Rooks all over

Holty01 · 26/01/2019 at 10:19
Yeah Rick seems to be the case. My back premos consist of any of the top 12 from last year who took the most kick ins. I’m even considering Short as well. I think the new kickin rule might benefit him the most. Hurn could be a big winner as well with the new rule

gator59 · 26/01/2019 at 10:27
Hard to say who's going to benefit the most on this one Holty… there are so many that play on from the kick in

neil demons delight · 26/01/2019 at 10:28
you will run out of coin though Gator. Its confusing when discussing prems and mid pricers/ Derek said he had 12 but I counted less Triggs version is best up to 250 rookie 500 midprice over that are prem Was cogniglio a prem last year? no — a mid pricer to start. Also I notice people saying I am counting so and so as a prem Rubbish either above 500 and a prem or not Yeo was 499 early doors —a mid pricer So Rick and Gator will you make it with guns n rooks ?

Rick Grimes · 26/01/2019 at 12:41
I'm looking at Lloyd, Laird and Whitfield in dec at this stage. 5 x uber premium Mids. Grundy and Goldy. 3 x $500+ forwards. Rest rookies. Have coin to buy a couple of pricier rooks if they look value. Overall happy with 13 definite keepers and few question marks.

Derek · 27/01/2019 at 12:13
I think Keepers instead of Guns.
Witho is a keeper in my opinion, someone you expect to start and finish the year with.
Everyone else is a cash cow.
ZWilliams is a keeper. He isn’t a cash cow, not cheap enough.
Green is a keeper if he starts
Kruzer I’m not sure about

Godd_Toldstein · 26/01/2019 at 10:59
What price do you consider a mid price defender to be?

Rick Grimes · 26/01/2019 at 12:45
Witherden would be prime example. Mid priced to average 85. Could go to 100 average this year, maybe. But it's a punt and you might be stuck with mid priced output.

Phat Phuc · 26/01/2019 at 13:41
Thats a bit harsh on Alex Rick he's only played 30 games and has a career ave of 16 kicks p/game. I'll be picking him before Laird who's best season ave for kicks is also 16 (2018) but a career ave of only 10.5.
Third year breakout for Alex. Laird increased his ave by 34 in his 3rd year Witherden could do the same just by playing on at every kick-in.

Godd_Toldstein · 26/01/2019 at 13:50
Yeah I don't know about that as fatty said it's withers 3rd year. To have an 85 avg that early on is pretty good. Doesn't need to do too much more to get into the top 6 spot

TOPHAWK1 · 26/01/2019 at 11:35
I agree Rick. That to me is a risky business. For me, it is simply keeping the rule changes in mind, and yet still selecting players purely on merit. If you are down to 2-3 players who you are tossing up over to fill a spot and one of those 3 has the most to benefit from a rule change, then perhaps then do you take that into consideration and select that player who gets most benefit. By wildly selecting mid pricers solely because they could benefit from rule changes is absolute madness. Cheers Rick.

GloryDays94 · 26/01/2019 at 13:58
Thinking Blakely, Witherden and Williams are the 3 mid pricers to consider

TRIGGA_HAPPY · 26/01/2019 at 15:57
Wiiliams and newman value there

BomTellchambers · 26/01/2019 at 14:07
Remember a guy kicking in is only as good as they players he has to kick to….Look for the clubs with great ruckmen to kick it to. Howe & Hibberd are 2 nobody seems to talk about

Godd_Toldstein · 27/01/2019 at 09:44
Hibberd hardly took a kick in last year

Holty01 · 26/01/2019 at 11:55
Lloyd Hurn Short and Witherden are the most prolific with the kickin duties. What surprised me more was Hurn kicked in 61% of the time

_Kyle · 26/01/2019 at 14:07
Was taking a look at who had the kick in duties last year and hurn took a blody big chunk of them (151) and 41% of those he kicked to himself. That alone put him into my first drafted side

neil demons delight · 26/01/2019 at 12:35
Crisp and Salem rarely but lewis does

Shake_n_bake · 26/01/2019 at 14:24
Glad to see you back in hawk!

TOPHAWK1 · 26/01/2019 at 23:03
Thanks Shake. I feel like a 2019 SC "A" game. Bring it on!

Ja191 · 26/01/2019 at 13:23
Hey Richard, It's all role for those two. Both shown they can tear it up if given midfield time and will be ones to monitor in regards to where their respective coaches play them. Gray is likely to do better if both given the midfield role but dunkley has shown great scoring ability averaging 115.7 from round 15 onwards last year and is in my team right now + may be a bit of a pod

neil demons delight · 26/01/2019 at 12:32
no plays for saints who are poorly coached anything can happen down there

Rick Grimes · 26/01/2019 at 12:47
Hadnt considered him xman but those last 9 game stats are impressive. Wait and see prospect I think, especially being a Saint.

Phat Phuc · 26/01/2019 at 13:32
Nice point-out Xman
2017 he ave 90.5 for 1st 7-games (only 2x Sub-80) and 95 over last 7-games
2018 he ave 82.7 for 1st 7-games (4x sub-80) and 117 over last 7-games
Not on my starting team radar because he costs 512k and might drop by 50-100k early but, he averages 7.5 tackles a game at the saints as a tagger so as long as the saints continue their abstract midfield strategy of losing clearances he could be worth a look after the byes.

GloryDays94 · 26/01/2019 at 13:58
Will be an interesting one to watch early. If he plays a proper MID role then could be a decent POD

Holty01 · 27/01/2019 at 10:26
He is on my watch list Xman. I have always been big on him and have mentioned him on several occasions. A tackling machine who gets plenty of the contested ball. Problem is, I don’t trust the Saints. He was dropped last year after he was leading the Saints tackling and won more contested ball then any other Saint. I think it has something to do with his engine as he spends a lot of time on the bench. I’ll watch him in the JLT but I guess that doesn’t mean a lot as he smashed out a 170 sc points against Sydney and then started the proper season with more of a run with role. It sucked me in last year as I started him

Xman · 27/01/2019 at 10:44
I believe he finished top 10 in the 3k a couple of weeks back and he’s tracking well. Again it’s gonna be the question if it’s worth the risk, could have a similar average to this year or he could explode.

Holty01 · 27/01/2019 at 11:43
I think if he was 400k he would be worth the risk but at his price, you would be hoping for him to be a keeper

Lekdog · 30/01/2019 at 22:42
Phantom rates him I believe

neil demons delight · 26/01/2019 at 12:30
welcome back Kyle That was an epic win for the tradies Moustaccio has been one of if not the best Jr coach with apologies to addicts,.2679 was a massive total . I for one want to take your title See you in the HAPPY PLACE I hope NDD

_Kyle · 26/01/2019 at 13:54
Cheers mate! Had one of those years where everything sorta just fell in to place haha
Came out of the byes like a man posessed averaging over 2500 to years end!

Godd_Toldstein · 26/01/2019 at 13:51
Do you watch all of their training?

neil demons delight · 26/01/2019 at 14:51
Yes and for those that have him Tracca went off with a lower leg maybe an ankle all hush hush no one talking about it Looked bad and was heavily strapped Give him a miss

GloryDays94 · 26/01/2019 at 13:52
So you think Gawn is not a good pick then? If that is the case I might go Martin, Goldy

neil demons delight · 26/01/2019 at 14:53
Turned me off but it's only trials. Might look at Fort or Sweet for cash flow and get Lloyd in NDD

Xman · 26/01/2019 at 16:11
When was this? Melbourne didn’t train today

neil demons delight · 26/01/2019 at 18:28
Thursday lunchtime At goches.Tracca now appears to be ok but restricted training .Still a no

TOPHAWK1 · 26/01/2019 at 18:22
Thanks for the intel Neil. I am not starting Gawn this year. Its Grundy and Goldstein for me at this stage. As you know, Goldy has no Pruess and Daw to deal with and should do the bulk of the rucking for North. He is super consistent and great value at $548K. Set and forget! Will never touch Petracca again after he shat all over me last year. The fact that he has injury issues means I can just forget him. Cheers mate.

TOPHAWK1 · 26/01/2019 at 18:31
Have you given Westhoff any thought? He is an interesting one. He has RUC/FWD eligibility. He will do very little ruck work with Lycett and Paddy Ryder sharing those duties. Westhoff could play that roaming type role where he collects pozzies around the ground and kick a few goals as well. He could easily average 100+ and may be a very strategic R2 option. Same price as Goldy. He is on my watchlist to see what role he has during the JLT.

GloryDays94 · 26/01/2019 at 13:57
Golden rule: never go chasing points. If you missed the boat dont try and catch up to it 👍

GloryDays94 · 26/01/2019 at 16:33
Not what I am saying at all.
I mean dont go chasing points from rookies who you have missed out on if they have gone up in price dramatically, see it happen every year.
Dont sideways trade premo players for others just because others are tearing it up at that time, also see that happen every year

GloryDays94 · 26/01/2019 at 16:41
Sorry man… Was just having an opinion on something I have seen ruin SC seasons… no need to get so narky. 👍

Russty_ · 26/01/2019 at 17:19
It's a sensitive subject because sometimes we all have to do it when we realise we've chosen the wrong guy and the guy we didn't choose is going nuts on the scoreboard.
I've done it before and I'll do it again if it means I can acquire the guy who's gonna get me the points I need going forward, even if it means sacrificing 50 or 100 grand sometimes.
Obviously it's not ideal and we'd all like to make the right calls from the start but we don't sometimes, and have to take the money loss up the keister…lol

TOPHAWK1 · 26/01/2019 at 18:38
Spot on Russty. I did not start with Sicily last year but with Petracca instead. Became very clear after the first few rounds I had a serious problem. I realised I had to get rid of Petracca and secure Sicily as soon as I could. I think Sicily was in my team by round 6 and Petracca was punted soon thereafter. That move saved my season and ensured i remained competitive in most leagues and seeing some finals action. That is not points chasing, that is team management. Chasing in form players that you do not have to boost your point scoring is a crucial part of this wonderful game.

Russty_ · 26/01/2019 at 18:50
I think you did the right thing there mate, I think the point chasing issue, or debate stems around rookies, do you bring the 117k rookie in after he has 3 good weeks in a row and jumps to 195k?…maybe not cause they can fall in a heap after that, their high initial scores being attributed to excitement of their debut and adrenaline.
I've done that before, but won't do it again..can really damage your year.

Lekdog · 26/01/2019 at 15:06
You've never averaged more than 93 or played a full season

Godd_Toldstein · 27/01/2019 at 09:43
I've got you covered big dog

neil demons delight · 26/01/2019 at 14:48
well done very useful indeed

Kevan63 · 30/01/2019 at 17:40
Hi Lazza, checked Higgins out. I used to be fond of finding one breakout player per line in the early days of SC, have gone pure G&R last few years, Higgins might sway me back to yester-years. Thanks for the heads-up.

Lekdog · 26/01/2019 at 15:05
I don't keep any spare, no need IMO, rookies generate quickly

Godd_Toldstein · 27/01/2019 at 09:37
Agree with this lek. Invest your money and let it grow

Holty01 · 26/01/2019 at 15:19
I try to have 80000 to 100000. This is more of a just in case one of my premos go down in the early going. The extra money will allow me to do a direct swap with another premium

GloryDays94 · 26/01/2019 at 16:35
I usually look to have 70k or more

Phat Phuc · 26/01/2019 at 16:42
I'm with Lek on this one money in the kitty doesn't score points.

The Ranger · 26/01/2019 at 20:23
50-100K for me Roy.
Just to cover any early correctives/injuries.

Russty_ · 26/01/2019 at 20:24
I like around 50K, just in case.

hedski · 26/01/2019 at 19:07
Just jumped in Gator, already in Mag7. 👍

gator59 · 26/01/2019 at 20:01
good stuff hedski

BrownlowBoy · 27/01/2019 at 10:02
I'm in! Was Cardinal Worpel but now Blakes Hard Wick

gator59 · 27/01/2019 at 11:47
Well done BB

Derek · 29/01/2019 at 10:55
Thanks gator

Maverick_ · 30/01/2019 at 21:12
any room in here gator? if a spot pops up i'd like to get in on this one

gator59 · 30/01/2019 at 22:51
What's your team name Maverick??

TOPHAWK1 · 26/01/2019 at 18:11
Gday Gator! Just joined the magnificient 7 league. Looking forward to some serious battles this year. Cheers.

gator59 · 26/01/2019 at 18:48
Great stuff Toppa

Russty_ · 26/01/2019 at 18:13
Shame to not see Pieman around for so long Gator, hope he hasn't chosen somewhere else and everything's ok with him, I miss his posts.
Not sure about the other guys but John's around, johnDJ59's on Twitter too I think. Nicholas always starts late from memory.

gator59 · 26/01/2019 at 18:50
Yeah Pieman hasn't been sighted Russty.. Hope all is good with him … We need his wisdom on this forum

JohnDJ59 · 26/01/2019 at 20:12
Hi Gator, just saw your post, I joined 'The Rat Pack', but I don't have enough room for 'Magnificent 7' this time around. If a league I'm in doesn't look like filling up and there is still room later on I could always jump in then. Thanks for the invite by the way.

gator59 · 26/01/2019 at 23:51
All good JD.. Cheers mate

BrownlowBoy · 27/01/2019 at 10:11
I'm in Gator!
Was Cardinal Worpel but now Blakes Hard Wick

Derek · 27/01/2019 at 11:57
Thanks Gator. I fell at the second last hurdle last year. Will have another crack.

Doc_1 · 05/02/2019 at 20:57
Just tried to jump in but is full sorry Gator.
Any other leagues with openings for Docs Destroyers

gator59 · 05/02/2019 at 22:19
Try jumping back in Doc ..I'll make room for you… Cheers gator

Godd_Toldstein · 27/01/2019 at 09:43
Withers looks good. Personally I wouldn't pick a 200k rookie. They might make a few extra points to start off with but the cheaper ones will make you more cash and allow you to upgrade quicker offsetting those early points

Rivo · 27/01/2019 at 14:22
Agree Gods. Walsh is a bit risky but almost guaranteed to play. I can see him putting up decent scores around 75+ & be good on field cover. Not a keeper but I do have enough rooks to make the cash for the culling time.

Peter · 26/01/2019 at 19:27
Josh
Thanks – I’m in

Peter · 26/01/2019 at 19:25
Josh
Are they keepers – if not, you will use up two trades. You need to find a forward keeper and a rookie to replace them imo

Godd_Toldstein · 27/01/2019 at 09:38
Not sure d goey gets much mid time

Russty_ · 26/01/2019 at 19:06
Nothing wrong with going for overall rank, but ultimately 99.999 % of us will be more concerned about how we go in or leagues, against people we know..because that's ultimately more fun, when the whole overall rank thing hits us in the face with reality.
Personally I'm an, enjoying the journey kinda guy as opposed to , the final result…except for Leagues, when it can go up until the final game.
There's plenty of point playing for whatever you want to play for…why exactly are you making a point of only playing for rank?….you sound like someone familiar from last year.

Godd_Toldstein · 26/01/2019 at 19:28
Well $50k sounds a lot better than saying I beat some scrubby Jr member in a weekly score. I personally thing overall players are far superior to those who are solely invested in league

Russty_ · 26/01/2019 at 19:40
Good for you then I guess, overall is like winning Lotto, it only happens to one of many, if your sole enjoyment depends on that then good luck to you I guess, that's a lot of expectation for 6 months of work with very little reward for all but one.
I think the players who are "far superior"…are the ones who enjoy their season the most, regardless of overall ranking, which more often than not, pales into comparison to the enjoyment they got from winning a League full of competitive players completing the whole season.
You are reminding me disturbingly of the exact same attitude from Sc Wow and Sc-Sixty 6 from last year…where everything regarding rank mattered, and everything else didn't, and then they proved how delusional they were by their final failure ranks..from their flawed trading strategy, which advocated trading aggressively, and running out of trades early..6 weeks early to be precise.
Both crashed and burned badly…after all their rank boasting.

Godd_Toldstein · 26/01/2019 at 19:46
I was around last year from what I remember they still finished quite high regardless of their drop off.
Leagues is just a different mindset not offence

Russty_ · 26/01/2019 at 19:54
One finished 3000th plus and the other 10000 plus…after bragging all year about rank and crapping all over players playing for leagues…I think i've seen enough now, you just can't help exposing yourselves, you're booted from my League, not sure who the other one is yet but I'll figure it out soon enough….you weren't around last year at all, I would've remembered…not under this name anyway.

Godd_Toldstein · 26/01/2019 at 20:52
Yeah I didnt post…?
OK kick me 👍

Russty_ · 26/01/2019 at 21:05
Oh you were here but didn't post?…just a humble observer…with how humble you are.?.hahah you're a Liar, you know you are.
You're too dumb to fool anyone, if you were smarter you'd have waited until half way through the season before you released your views on overall rank and Leagues, which are quite clear!..because that's all that matters to you and your sidekick….that's a big empty result if it goes wrong.
Anyways…enough drama, now that i've exposed you…I'm ready to go back to chillout Summer mode.
You two can't help but reveal your true natures because they're toxic…maybe go study Political science?

CuriousGeorge · 26/01/2019 at 21:39
Is that you WOW?

Russty_ · 26/01/2019 at 21:39
Just for the record, I have a record with these serial instigators, they've both gone after me in the past, and lost the battle.
I'm just pointing out that they are the only people in the past, ever who have brought attention to their view that only going for overall rank matters, and that everything else doesn't.
If they had more brains, they'd have stayed more hidden until the season was well underway.
They're just here under different names this year, probably with vpn's so their identities can't be blocked.
Their goal is to disrupt the site, annoy and infuriate people, and make people not want to post because of all their drama…which upsets people and makes them think this is a drama filled site, when it usually isn't.
Most people who are here are really good people with good input to contribute, these guys are not here for that.

TOPHAWK1 · 26/01/2019 at 23:09
Thanks for your input SC WOW. Let me know when you win this thing.

neil demons delight · 27/01/2019 at 08:45
Good for you Russty .This is a fun site and most are league players anyway. Good you exposed both early and get back to our teams. .NDD

TRIGGA_HAPPY · 27/01/2019 at 10:06
Rusty rusty.
While i love your passion always remember the "fire" analogy.
On league v Rank there was a great article on this in the JR mag a couple of years back written by the doyian Jock himself.
Make as call which one you are as there are different strategies for each.
Have a read. It is all there.

Holty01 · 27/01/2019 at 11:27
hi Trigga. This is true. 2 completely different strategies. But this was one of the main reasons why we had all the problems last year on the site. You had 2 blokes getting stuck into people saying how more superior they were because their ranks were better when probably 90% of us were playing for leagues. It is impossible to compare yet these 2 would constantly do this in a way it was trying to belittle people and damage this great site. If they do return, we as a community just have to be better then them and not get sucked in with their nonsense.

Derek · 27/01/2019 at 11:53
If you want to win leagues, you keep a lot of trades going into the last few weeks.

neil demons delight · 27/01/2019 at 12:03
I try to do both Last year I was in the top 3 after the byes in most leagues with a top side but down to 4 trades. Bombed out quick. Better as you say to keep trades for leagues, but for rank you must grab them as they appear like MacRae last year .I have an idea that fallen midpricers might be the key this year. plenty of prems are overs

Holty01 · 27/01/2019 at 13:18
Hi Neil. I think after about 4 weeks We have a rough idea if you can compete for overall. My team selection for round 1 isn’t any different but depending where I’m sitting after those first 4 weeks ultimately decides what direction I take for the rest of the season

Russty_ · 26/01/2019 at 19:29
Hi Roy, I don't actually rate Whitfield that highly, he's still a bit inconsistent…everyone wants to end up with Lloyd but he's damn expensive.
Defenders I like this year are Hurn, Witherden, Williams, maybe even Roberton depending on how his pre-season goes…he can at least deliver 80 + if he's back to his old self.
Blakely is one to watch in the pre-season too I think.

BrownlowBoy · 27/01/2019 at 10:03
I'm in Russty!
Blake's Hard Wick

Dhondy · 31/01/2019 at 09:20
I'm in if there is still space

Russty_ · 01/02/2019 at 21:35
Dhondy jump into 848493 if you like

Maverick_ · 01/02/2019 at 16:53
keep me in mind thanks russty!

Russty_ · 01/02/2019 at 21:36
Mav Jump in to 381946, last spot isn't interested so go for it.

Holty01 · 26/01/2019 at 23:39
Cheers mate. I’m in

Godd_Toldstein · 27/01/2019 at 09:36
Non are premo

Blueth · 27/01/2019 at 19:28
That is correct. Some players move up to premium status from mid-pricers to premiums during a season.
Jarrod Berry will average 95-100 IMO

PJ8 · 28/01/2019 at 06:53
This is me. Was in the leagues last year and got the direct email to re-join

Russty_ · 30/01/2019 at 04:12
No worries PJ, Didn't send out any email as this is a new League but happy to have you in …I've seen you around the traps for a few years and you always do well, plus Derek recommends you :), welcome mate.

Derek · 29/01/2019 at 10:58
He is a good player mate

PJ8 · 30/01/2019 at 19:30
Good lads!

TOPHAWK1 · 27/01/2019 at 10:52
No worries. There is one spot left. I will open for you now. Cheers mate.

BrownlowBoy · 27/01/2019 at 11:34
Ripper!
Legend TH!

TOPHAWK1 · 27/01/2019 at 10:54
Just joined Holty. Hope that is OK. Cheers.

Holty01 · 27/01/2019 at 13:22
All good

BrownlowBoy · 27/01/2019 at 11:34
In Holty!

Shake_n_bake · 27/01/2019 at 11:46
Hey Holty would you like to come aboard UTCazaly? Would love your compilation? 680579 let me know?

Holty01 · 27/01/2019 at 13:21
Cheers shake im in

skindog · 27/01/2019 at 12:04
Just joined Holty if thats alright mate??

Holty01 · 27/01/2019 at 13:22
Fine mate. All Jock members welcome

AuroraBorealis?! · 28/01/2019 at 17:01
Do you mind if i join Holty? Been a regular contributor here for 2 years now

Holty01 · 28/01/2019 at 19:11
jump aboard

Russty_ · 28/01/2019 at 21:26
Hi Holty, I'd love to mate but am already in 8 and have to reserve 2, glad you entered my league though, mate thanks.

Holty01 · 27/01/2019 at 13:32
Yeah mate all good. All welcome. There are a few leagues that will kick you as some have had the same teams in it for years. Don’t take it personally as same happened to me last year.

BrownlowBoy · 27/01/2019 at 12:05
I like it. Like the Taranto selection a lot.

Richard · 27/01/2019 at 12:14
It’s ballsy, but I don’t want to miss out when he takes the step to elite status.

Holty01 · 27/01/2019 at 13:25
And with no more Shiels, possibly will be now playing more midfield time. Brave move but can’t really knock your decision if you start him.

Godd_Toldstein · 27/01/2019 at 11:44
Source?

Shake_n_bake · 27/01/2019 at 11:53
SEN

neil demons delight · 27/01/2019 at 11:52
was looking at him

Shake_n_bake · 27/01/2019 at 12:01
Was pretty keen to.

gator59 · 27/01/2019 at 11:54
Well it's back to the ACME drawing board for me then

BrownlowBoy · 27/01/2019 at 12:04
Cross him off the list

Derek · 27/01/2019 at 12:20
oh Dear. Now I have think about Longer

Shake_n_bake · 27/01/2019 at 12:27
Hey Derek left that spot opened for ya in my league definitely want you in there!! P.s maybe Lobbe is worth a look now 🤣

Holty01 · 27/01/2019 at 13:26
Don’t do it Derek.

TOPHAWK1 · 27/01/2019 at 14:11
Thanks Russty. I was just talking about Kreuzer yesterday about the high injury risk he is. And now he has gone under the knife again. Just not worth risking, and that goes for Mumford as well. I am prepared to fork out the coin and go Goldy at R2. Not touching guys like Longer. Way too risky for mine.

TRIGGA_HAPPY · 27/01/2019 at 14:46
I whacked in fort at r2 last night just for fun.
Boy does that improve things!
Blakey, williams and green become lloyd, laird and smith.
Quite an upgrade.

gator59 · 27/01/2019 at 14:53
Hi Trigga are you going to have your league running again that really did well last year.. cheers mate

TRIGGA_HAPPY · 27/01/2019 at 15:39
Yep Happy Place will go around again but not till Feb.
Jan is just too early
I normally start league around stsrt of JLT.
Titch to Scratch will have to be scratched as Titch is sitting 2019 out.
Never fear though I will come up with a replacement.

gator59 · 27/01/2019 at 16:03
Ok mate will wait until then.. cheers mate

gator59 · 27/01/2019 at 14:55
Have been toying with the same idea about fort .. Neil and I discussed this plan over the phone yesterday

TOPHAWK · 27/01/2019 at 15:55
I love playing around with my team like that. By whacking Fort into R2 it frees up a bloody fortune of cash! Starting Fort at R2 would require a serious strategy and luck to pull it off. Let's say you are planning to get Mumford in going into round 3,4, or 5 (Suspended Rd 1 and 2) Mummy is doing all the right things and is fit to play. Do you run Fort at R2 for the first 5 weeks and grab his points and use him as a short term cash cow? Then when Mummy returns in round 3 have a look at him and if he looks good do the big switch going into round 5? Fort out at 250-300K and Mummy in at 320K? Lots needs to go right like Fort producing reasonable scores 60+, not getting dropped and Mummy staying on the park producing 90+ scores. If it comes off you are laughing with all those extra points generated by the 3 extra premos. Not sure I have the fortitude to do that, but it's a potential SHARK MOVE!😂🦈

skindog · 27/01/2019 at 16:08
Exactly, and a large pair of stones, what could go wrong? here, hold my beer:)

TOPHAWK1 · 27/01/2019 at 18:17
Its just a pipe dream. There are just too many if and buts, and variables in play. If Fort gets dropped in round 2 or Mummy does not play round 3 you are pretty much screwed. There are smarter moves. Just thought it was a bit of fun throwing it out there.

Skindog · 27/01/2019 at 19:43
Of course mate, look like a champion if you pull it off, but mainly a fool for anyone who gives it a go! But I’ve decided, for the moment at least, to go a cheaper option, 🤷‍♂️

skindog · 27/01/2019 at 15:02
Hey Tophawk1, waqs just toying with the Mummy idea, if Fort gets a call up for the first two games mummy could be a little money maker, then a sideways with a bit coin??

skindog · 27/01/2019 at 15:24
Or Fort at R2, but its looks wrong, and both scare the shit outta me?

Dice_real · 27/01/2019 at 13:52
Bloody good side Dylan.
Get Heeney in for Wingard and if that's Hayes from bulldogs he'll score well if he gets a game…so will Smith

Dylan · 27/01/2019 at 14:54
Hey mate, heard good things about hayes and smith from the dogs so they're in for the time being, hopefully they can make us some good cash!

TOPHAWK1 · 27/01/2019 at 14:21
Hi Dylan. That is a decent side.
The only thing that concerns me is your high spend in the back line which has exposed your depth (lack of) in your midfield. You have 4 premos back there. For me that is 2-3 too many. Perhaps look to start with Lloyd and Whitfield, and aim to grab Laird and Sicily as the season progresses. I really think you need to spend more $ and secure one more uber premo mid. (Eg Oliver, Z Merrett, M Crouch, Macrae-expensive etc). Most points come from the midfielders and you need to be strong there to get your season off to a strong start point scoring wise.
Perhaps you will then still have enough dough left to grab a bargain price premo potential player such as A Miles, B Smith (Adelaide) or a Zac Williams type for either the back line or midfield. I think that if you tinker it right, your side would become even more balanced. Just my take Dylan. Good luck this season!

Dylan · 27/01/2019 at 14:57
Thanks for the feedback tophawk1! I think you might be on to something there, I'm thinking sicily can wait as you said and I will downgrade to get one of those mids you are talking about. Good luck this season to you too!

GOAT___23 · 27/01/2019 at 15:15
Hey Dylan. I really like your team mate. I wouldnt reduce your defensive premos to 2 though. I myself am running with Lloyd, Sicily, Witherden and Williams. Defence is going to be huge this year, especially with the new kick in rule, and someone like Sicily who already takes a lot of kick ins will benefit even further from that. He will only improve this year and I can see him averaging 105+ again. You dont want to be left behind the pack in terms of point scoring after only the second round.

Dylan · 28/01/2019 at 09:37
I'm now running with Lloyd, Laird, Sicily and Blakely with only 4 mid premos and 3 fwds as I cant bring myself to move on any of the first three and i like the look of blakely as a pod. Agree the defence could be really strong this year!

Rivo · 27/01/2019 at 15:30
Ripping team Dylan. Agree with a few comments here that the backs look too loaded for now. Consider swapping out Sicily or Whitfield for an undervalued mid promo like Merrett, Crouch or Dusty.

Dylan · 28/01/2019 at 09:38
I've currently swapped whitfield for blakely, but im still not sure i would be able to get a uber premo if i now swap blakely to a rookie. Had merrett in and out of side but his susceptability to a tag is worrying… any other options you would suggest around that price? already have dusty

gator59 · 27/01/2019 at 16:14
You shouldn't have to pay mate… I can access mine fine

Shake_n_bake · 27/01/2019 at 19:48
I joined holtys league and can eccess it on my mobile but still hasn’t came up on the home computer??? Even after logging on & off and refreshing…weird.

neil demons delight · 27/01/2019 at 21:06
mine comes to profile but nothing when I click team

Skindog · 27/01/2019 at 23:20
Yeah, broken arm

Luke · 01/02/2019 at 08:28
Hopefully back to Collingwood

Brutal pups · 27/01/2019 at 20:43
First time posting first time taking supercoach serious feel free to comment on my team guys

GloryDays94 · 27/01/2019 at 20:47
Few too many big risks in that side for me mate. Hall, Ablett and Green could all get injured again.
Mills is still an unknown

Brutal pups · 27/01/2019 at 21:39
Ill see how they go threw the JLT matches ablett is the biggest risk but i have faith

Brutal pups · 27/01/2019 at 21:41
I really think hall is going to absolutely kill it for north melbourne

Holty01 · 27/01/2019 at 22:36
For me it’s between Hall Liba and Miles for that mid pricer. I won’t have more then 1

Brutal pups · 27/01/2019 at 23:25
This year ill be going 2 mid pricers, i really believe all 3 will score well and make lots of cash

Brutal pups · 27/01/2019 at 23:27
Libba might push dunkly foward might swap dunks for heeney

Derek · 28/01/2019 at 00:43
A rookie will make more cash. A mid priced player is there to score premium like points.

Box · 27/01/2019 at 21:53
Already have but don't tell anyone……………….

Derek · 28/01/2019 at 00:40
You just have Westhoff out of position

Godd_Toldstein · 28/01/2019 at 09:08
This team is really not that impressive considering fort is at d2. Sloane cops a tag he's done, and miles won't outscore a solid r2 ruckman. Your defence is fine but you could still have it with a better d2. Nothing amazing in the forward line either. Not sure where all your money went

GloryDays94 · 28/01/2019 at 15:52
Sloane will be back to his best this year 👍

_Kyle · 28/01/2019 at 17:15
Could have a better d2 than laird? Not sure im following mate

JohnDJ59 · 28/01/2019 at 18:44
His d should have been a r

Brutal pups · 28/01/2019 at 00:16
What?

PJ8 · 28/01/2019 at 06:45
Wines injured shoulder and requires surgery
Fasolo had what is believed to be a drunken fall on Australia Day and broke his arm

Godd_Toldstein · 28/01/2019 at 09:05
Wines hasn't even had scans….

RoyWetard · 28/01/2019 at 10:06
I finished just outside the top 1k, 2k and 5k in years 2015-17. No need to talk about last year.

Godd_Toldstein · 28/01/2019 at 10:26
Join up

TOPHAWK1 · 28/01/2019 at 10:26
2016- Top 1%
2017- Top 1%
2018- Top 3%
2019- Winner!!! I got the side to take this whole thing out.

Godd_Toldstein · 28/01/2019 at 10:27
Join up then

Bob · 28/01/2019 at 11:03
😂 comedian over here

Shane · 28/01/2019 at 12:07
The Bald Muppets are in. Finished 25th last year

RobDogs · 28/01/2019 at 23:03
Hi Godd, RobDogs always in Top 1%, 177th in '17 & 157th in '15, so being an odd year I'm confident of top100 this season. Have joined, thanks.

_Kyle · 28/01/2019 at 23:09
Trainwreck joined. Been up and about top 1% 2016-18, had a shocking run home with injuries like many in 2017 and final rank showed it

Bob · 28/01/2019 at 12:32
I'm predicting your prediction is wrong. New kick in rule will be huge for some players. A matter of picking the right ones.

Holty01 · 28/01/2019 at 19:00
b4 you start pointing the finger about trolling, you should probably log back on to your account because all I can see from this is your the troll trying to pose as someone else. Very hard to take you seriously when this happens

neil demons delight · 28/01/2019 at 20:15
pretty sure we know who phat and goldy are now .

Russty_ · 28/01/2019 at 21:23
Yep, the similarities with the 2 are hard to ignore Neil, and then he comes out with a beastiality comment, pretty disgusting, no wonder it was deleted…as he probably will be soon.

Holty01 · 28/01/2019 at 22:21
Cheers Russty. All good mate. I saw the response but can’t be bothered responding to the nonsense. They just want us to bite. However, Im not exactly sure whether to laugh at skinny’s response or feel sorry for him. To spend that amount of time to post that response to the simple request of ‘logging in so we know it’s you’ is strange, if not psychotic.

Holty01 · 28/01/2019 at 22:56
Lol. I think they did last year didn’t they? Or was it just agreeing with one another? Either way, I’m pumped for the season and SuperCoach season.

Russty_ · 28/01/2019 at 23:08
Hey Kyle, what's your Supercoach Team name please?

_Kyle · 28/01/2019 at 23:12
Trainwreck mate

Russty_ · 28/01/2019 at 23:16
Cheers mate, just wanted to confirm if you were or weren't someone who entered my League uninvited, how did you fare last year?

_Kyle · 28/01/2019 at 23:34
Oh sorry mate didnt realise that leage was invite only.
finished top 1% ended up winning a couple of trigs leagues in trigs happy place and i think maybe titch to scratch aswell but that leages a bit hazy

Russty_ · 28/01/2019 at 23:39
No probs mate, was a different Kyle, jump in if you like, you're invited to 848493

TOPHAWK1 · 28/01/2019 at 12:39
Wow. Another one down. When did it happen Shake? Any idea of length of time on the sidelines?

Shake_n_bake · 28/01/2019 at 13:36
Just that hes set to have surgery. So definitely not minor.

Phat Phuc · 28/01/2019 at 15:53
14-weeks they hope he'll make it back sometime in 1st half of Season. Bewley looking good for a starting spot

BrownlowBoy · 28/01/2019 at 13:45
If Wines shoulder is serious then Gray will get more mid time.

Xman · 28/01/2019 at 14:11
Yes but that doesn’t convince me, Heeney should up his average again due to experience/age where as gray you would expect him to slow down. “Gray will get more mid time” could mean anything really. Not trying to be rude I’m just curious if anyone can put together a good case for it.

Holty01 · 28/01/2019 at 15:21
Gray for me. Has proven in the past he can be elite. Heeney still to prove that. Age hasn’t slowed Gray down yet plus he is a smart player so will find the ball irrelevant of age.

BrownlowBoy · 28/01/2019 at 16:31
Gray has less to contend with in the Power midfield as well. He is arguably their best mid.
Sydney has Heeney, Kennedy, Parker, and then the likes of Mills, Hewett, Florent, Papley going through their and now maybe even Clarke who they got from North.

BomTellchambers · 28/01/2019 at 17:09
Gray is one of the best players in the competition. Heeney has the potential to be one of the best players in the competition, but it won't happen in 2019……Only thing that holds back Gray (as far as SC goes) is playing deep forward, as a mid only he would average 110+

Ja191 · 28/01/2019 at 14:03
On the supercoach app on the my team page at the top there is field, list and history – hit history then the drag down box to select which year

Graham · 28/01/2019 at 16:32
Thanks for answering Ja but for some reason I still can't find it that way

SC_Kev7 · 28/01/2019 at 19:44
Make sure you have the ‘my team’ page open in the app. Tap on history at the top which will open a new page. You can select which year history from a drop down menu top right

Russty_ · 28/01/2019 at 23:49
Oh the precious years…for the saints were 1966, fluked a GF, then 2009 and 10 where they could've won 2 but failed due to poxy kicking skills.
Maybe another 52 years till the next one.

BrownlowBoy · 28/01/2019 at 13:46
I'm not riding that roller coaster again

RoyWetard · 28/01/2019 at 13:57
I only thought of him as I was trying to think who takes Neale's spot that was supposedly going to Blakely.

BrownlowBoy · 28/01/2019 at 16:02
He will get more mid time now that's for sure. I think Cerra and Brayshaw will also spend a lot more time in the middle.
Maybe Luke Ryan is relevant again?

TOPHAWK1 · 28/01/2019 at 18:14
I like Luke Ryan. He should hold that Freo back line together like a general this season. He is coming into his prime physically, is a good intercept mark, great by foot (kick) AND always does most of the kicking in duties. With the new kicking in rules, it should help him score significantly more SC points as he always kicks out directly. He should be seriously considered IMO.

_Kyle · 28/01/2019 at 20:36
Even with the kick in rule changes that wont affect ryan much. Based on last years numbers of the 107 kick ins he took, only 1 time did he kick it to himself

Ja191 · 28/01/2019 at 22:06
You’ve got it the wrong way round Kyle. Kick ins without kicking to yourself don’t reward points, providing Ryan now plays on those 107 kick ins will now be disposals and be a big boost to his average providing he keeps his kick in duties

Skindog · 28/01/2019 at 14:47
No way, might as well get Billing’s, Rich and Greene

Ralph · 28/01/2019 at 14:42
I know there’s a bloke with that name over at SC Talk, maybe try that?

Bombers56 · 28/01/2019 at 17:51
Thanks will ask over there.

hedski · 28/01/2019 at 18:02
An article on AFL live app came out today in relation to all clubs last year's draft selections and how they are traveling AB, it says Blakey is the most likely at Swans to push for a round one debut, currently in my side but may be pushed out for a cheaper rookie closer to the season starting.

AuroraBorealis?! · 28/01/2019 at 19:38
Cheers Hedski

Michael · 28/01/2019 at 20:23
Your decision just got a bit easier as Blakely is injured.

AuroraBorealis?! · 28/01/2019 at 20:37
Different Blakely mate, im talking about the sydney one here

Lekdog · 28/01/2019 at 20:39
Blakey at Sydney, in my side too

AuroraBorealis?! · 28/01/2019 at 20:40
Turns out his name is actually spelt "Blakey", have been reading it wrong this whole time haha

Russty_ · 28/01/2019 at 21:25
Hi AB, you're invited to my 848493 league mate, jump in.

AuroraBorealis?! · 28/01/2019 at 22:39
Cheers Russty, just jumped in. Team name is Scorpions FC

Russty_ · 28/01/2019 at 22:45
Thanks Ab….nice mate

gator59 · 28/01/2019 at 23:45
Looks a solid enough side mate… I don't trust Wingard and i'm leaning towards not having M.Crouch after last year when he burnt me

JohnDJ59 · 29/01/2019 at 00:04
Yeah gator, I only just put Wingard in, I also didn't trust him, but then I looked at his second half from last year, looked alright. I started with Heeney, then Dunkley and settled on Wingard. I did have Bont at M5, but M.Crouch looks good value if he can stay on the park, I'll see how they both go preseason before I settle that one.

Russty_ · 29/01/2019 at 00:17
Hey John, if you can afford to, Heeney will pay off better than Wingard this year I reckon, he's gonna go to premo this year I think.

JohnDJ59 · 29/01/2019 at 00:41
Hi Russty, yes I would prefer Heeney, but at the moment I only have $3,000 left in cash, a lot will depend on what rookies show up come round one.

JohnDJ59 · 29/01/2019 at 09:58
Hey gator, I had a good look at my team and if I want to get the GG combo all I have to do is swap Lloyd for Mills. So it's Lloyd/Nank v Mills/Gawn.

neil demons delight · 29/01/2019 at 10:25
good move too john as mills will get mid time Sorry I cant join also saving the last one for Trigg s apologies mate good luck itsa great league

JohnDJ59 · 29/01/2019 at 10:41
OK thanks for letting me know Neil, I'm getting a bit of that. It does look a good move on paper but still a bit concerned about Big Max and what his role will be, paying top dollar as well and then we have Mills who is always going to play in the midfield, but ends in the backline because he is so good back there. I have a bit of thinking to do.

gator59 · 29/01/2019 at 12:08
Hi JD if I decide to downgrade Gawn it will be to Kreuz and hope he holds up because I reckon he's the one that'll make the most cash for upgrading… I can't see Goldy or Martin exploding price wise and you may get stuck with them all season and same applies with the Nank

JohnDJ59 · 29/01/2019 at 12:16
Have to admit the Rucks or at least R2 is doing my head in this year, not really sure what to do.

JohnDJ59 · 29/01/2019 at 12:37
I've just put Gawn in at R2 by trading out Williams from defence for a rookie, just means I now have three rookies on each of def/mid/fwd lines, so will need the rookies to turn up come round one, only have $800 left in the kitty.

Shake_n_bake · 29/01/2019 at 13:32
Kreuzer will be touch & go rd 1. Risk vs reward.

JohnDJ59 · 29/01/2019 at 14:20
Hey Shake_n_bake I noticed you were in my 'Holy Grail' League last year, code 461265, are you joining up again ? it's been a no show so far, so I'm looking for some of the regulars here to join.

Shake_n_bake · 29/01/2019 at 15:52
Hey John like most im waiting for Triggs league to fall. Finished 9th in Happy place last 2 yrs burning to make the 8!!

JohnDJ59 · 29/01/2019 at 19:15
Ok thanks Shake, looks like that's the go at the moment.

Ja191 · 28/01/2019 at 21:52
Hey mate nice to see you! The rucks are interesting could get you a big advantage over everyone else providing everything goes to plan. I like the team particularly the horlin smith pod pick he can definitely rack up the pill. A few things I wouldn’t touch Bennell with a barge pole and one other thing I’d suggest would be Dunkley instead of mclean provided he keeps the midfield role he had the late stretch last year. Hope to see you posting more!

Dice_real · 29/01/2019 at 09:27
I like it Hawk. Just will he be a top 6 defender? I think he'll be in the top dozen.
I'm a big fan of Ryan and hopefully he takes most kick ins again this year, i just think they'll go with Wilson.
In saying that, Ryan i think will score very well anyway.
He's a good kick and if these rules are anything to go by, there should be more space in the back half for his precision kicks

JohnDJ59 · 29/01/2019 at 10:03
I don't mind Ryan, he was one of my upgrades last year, he's in the mix for me, but is competing with Witherden and Williams for a place in my team.

Shake_n_bake · 29/01/2019 at 13:33
And will see alot action down back!

_Kyle · 28/01/2019 at 22:07
Fair call trig. I have my doubts over gawn with old mate coming over from the roos. Cant imagine anyone would come across from the reserves just to play in the reserves again. I would hold off on gawn atleast until we see how the dees play their rucks in the JLT. We all remember how it affected goldy being a duo ruck. At this point in time im saving 150k and starting goldy now that he has no comp for top ruck spot. Certainly makes my other lines look that bit stronger. And if i really have to i can upgrade to gawn once hes dropped a but from that monster 700k price tag

skindog · 28/01/2019 at 22:18
Too much of a spend for me boys, ill try upgrade when their prices drop or stay with who im going in with, helps my other lines magnificently, looks like a shitty year already, going with my gut,,

TRIGGA_HAPPY · 28/01/2019 at 22:22
Sure does
Grawndy is a stack of cash and salary cap
Gawn and Newman
V
Goldy and Lloyd/laird
Just makes it look alot better

Russty_ · 28/01/2019 at 22:14
Giday Trigga, I reckon if you want to start Gawn and Grundy you could save money going for a few defenders who might benefit from the new kick in rules, with a few midpriced defenders like Smith or Francis, Williams, Witherden.
Also could go the so called rookie messiah Walsh who'll start round 1 and kick ass in the mids. Could be a learning experience if he flops badly, the lesson being, never start highly hyped expensive rookies again…lol
Setterfield could also be a good leg up player.
Could also try Greene, or Daniher in the fwds if they're ok to go.
I think Miles is also a pretty safe pick, not sure about Libba or Hanners.

TRIGGA_HAPPY · 28/01/2019 at 22:28
At the moment Rust with Grawndy can only afford williams and newman.
Slot in sandi and lloyd/laird becomes available.
I think Walsh will be worth the spend he just has the complete game.
But Walsh at M5 seems abit light on.
Reckon mids will be where the rooks r this year so giving them 3 spots on field with Walsh would be 4.
Setterfield sitting in the fwd line at F5.
Not sure how Green is going but has had a limited pre season so far and read daniher unlikely for Rd 1.

Russty_ · 28/01/2019 at 22:37
Yeah it's a hard one to pick this year, I think 2 rooks in the defence, 3 in the mids and 2 fwd could be the way to go this year, if any of them fail, that's when the panic sets in though, Reckon I'm going with Grundy/ Goldy too, Goldy was still going through some bad stuff last year and still averaged over 100…and he's durable which is important.
Could improve on that this year being a bit lighter and in a better place mentally.

Holty01 · 28/01/2019 at 22:38
Hi Trigga. I think I’ve been away with the fairies this offseason as this is the 1st I’ve heard about the new ruck rules. What are they?

Russty_ · 28/01/2019 at 23:14
Hey Holty, I think it's 5 points for hitout to advantage and 2 points for a straight possession after bounce down.

JohnDJ59 · 28/01/2019 at 22:51
Good write up Trigga, I started with Grundy/Gawn, but my def and fwd lines were too weak to justify it. Then looked at Grundy/Martin, but am now considering Grundy/Nank. I am actually hoping that Fort gets a go at Geelong so I can put him at R2, even if it's only for 6 rounds, it would give me a chance to see how Maxy is going and my def and fwds would start out a lot better.

gator59 · 28/01/2019 at 23:00
Hi Trigga You Can run Gawndry like I am atm….I'm running the premo backs with who should benefit with the new kick in rules… LLoyd,, Simmo and Witherden… My premo structure atm is 3, 5, 2, 3 and I like what I see

JohnDJ59 · 28/01/2019 at 23:12
Holy shit gator, you did well, I tried GG, but couldn't get to that amount of premo, you did well.

gator59 · 28/01/2019 at 23:21
Hi JD ,, I'm counting Withers as a premo but consider the rest as ubers.. ie the three down back .. LLoyd , Simmo, Witherden … mids, Macrae, Cripps, Fyfe, Neale and Yeo.. Rucks Gawndry.. Fwds ,, Danger Smith, Dunkley

JohnDJ59 · 28/01/2019 at 23:34
Good looking main players gator, I haven't gone with Macrae, which will probably hurt me, but I like the ones I have. My team is further down the page.

derek · 29/01/2019 at 14:03
it wouldn't be Supercoach if i didn't start with a dodgy R2 (TBC, Lobbe, Sandilands, Lycett last 4 years)…. with limited success. oh well, maybe this year.
Kruzer if he is ok, otherwise Fort if named or even Longer if he looks like he strong enough to compete. Mmmmmm Mummy even.

Lazza · 29/01/2019 at 14:16
Kreuzer is not OK, Mummy is injured too with a hammy (has been for the past 3 weeks, doesn't auger well for season longevity) … and is out for the first couple of rounds anyway through suspension. .

derek · 29/01/2019 at 14:06
Grundy only in 45% of teams. gawn in 35%

Lazza · 29/01/2019 at 14:16
Flabbergasting !!!

Holty01 · 28/01/2019 at 22:43
Hi John. Give it til tomorrow but I’m keen if none of the above mentioned enters

_Kyle · 28/01/2019 at 22:46
Same as holty, iv missed all the jock leages thus far so would be keen to get in a few again this year.

Holty01 · 28/01/2019 at 22:49
you get in there Kyle. I’m in a few already.

JohnDJ59 · 28/01/2019 at 22:58
Hi Holty01 you are welcome if I get no takers, what's your team name ?

Holty01 · 28/01/2019 at 23:05
all Good mate. Get Kyle. Seems keen to join a jock league. I’m already in a few and probably in the same as you for some of them.

JohnDJ59 · 28/01/2019 at 22:56
Hi Kyle, what's your team name, just so I know

_Kyle · 28/01/2019 at 23:01
team name is trainwreck mate

JohnDJ59 · 28/01/2019 at 23:02
OK thanks. You may enter the quest for the Holy Grail

Russty_ · 28/01/2019 at 22:49
Hey John I can't mate, too committed this year…make sure it's someone who'll see it through though, cheers mate.

JohnDJ59 · 28/01/2019 at 22:54
No worries Russty, I'm the same, I probably left it a bit late, everyone seems to have started fairly early this year.

skindog · 28/01/2019 at 22:53
joined if ok DJ59, if not boot me,

JohnDJ59 · 28/01/2019 at 23:08
You can stay Skin, team name ?

skindog · 29/01/2019 at 08:51
Rise of the Worpel is the team good sir,

JohnDJ59 · 29/01/2019 at 09:33
Great, thanks for that, it was out of yours and another one that joined at the same time.

skindog · 29/01/2019 at 09:44
Cheers DJ59

Lazza · 28/01/2019 at 23:22
Hey John, thx for the invite 👍 .. i’m In … looking forward to another great challenge.. cheers… Raw Tiger

JohnDJ59 · 28/01/2019 at 23:27
Happy for you to join Lazza, you kicked my butt last year, hope I can do a bit better this year, looks challenging already though.

gator59 · 28/01/2019 at 23:39
Have joined your Holy Grail league JD.. Cheers mate

JohnDJ59 · 28/01/2019 at 23:56
Thanks for joining gator.

gator59 · 28/01/2019 at 23:57
Cheers mate

TOPHAWK1 · 29/01/2019 at 09:45
Hi John. Id love to join but I am already competing in 10 leagues! Thanks for inviting me mate. Hope the "holy grail" league kicks butt this year. Cheers, TH.

JohnDJ59 · 29/01/2019 at 09:51
No worries TOPHAWK1 thanks for letting me know, I have a feeling I'm going to get a bit off that, I probably left it a bit late, but I wanted to give the others time over the weekend to join up and got nothing.

hedski · 29/01/2019 at 11:26
Cheers for the invite John, I'm in the same boat as others, only have 1 league left, I'm in a couple of leagues with you already so all good 👍

JohnDJ59 · 29/01/2019 at 12:08
Thanks for getting back to me hedski, I have a feeling this could become a theme.

JohnDJ59 · 31/01/2019 at 11:28
I might have to let some others in if most of the ones I was hoping to join are already committed.

Such is Fyfe · 31/01/2019 at 15:12
I have a post about one I'm starting up on the next page if interested, $100 buy in

Finnius · 31/01/2019 at 15:16
I’m interested as wel AB

hedski · 31/01/2019 at 15:37
Derek has started one Fin, scroll down a bit. 👍

skindog · 29/01/2019 at 08:46
Hey Rusty, team name is Rise of the Worpel, hope alls good dude?

skindog · 29/01/2019 at 08:49
It was Miss ya Titch but i changed it, sorry for any confusion,,

Russty_ · 30/01/2019 at 04:13
No probs Skindog, jump in.

AN1611 · 29/01/2019 at 09:40
if a spot opens up I'd be keen to join Russty

Russty_ · 30/01/2019 at 04:13
Go for it AN1611, no quitting allowed though ok?..lol

Nick · 29/01/2019 at 12:55
Thanks Russty just joined King Rooboy

Donald Drumpf · 31/01/2019 at 15:49
Gday Russty, have jumped in as well, see how we go. Team is ScariesVIII. Cheers mate.

derek · 29/01/2019 at 11:47
having a look at the kick in numbers; Lloyd (56%), Hurn (62%), Witherden (51%), Short (54%), Ryan (41%) are the main men.
Although Simpson was only 37% carlton had many more kick ins.
Harbrow only had 25% but without May who took 30% his numbers could jump

derek · 29/01/2019 at 11:50
Laird, Whitfield vs LLoyd, Hurn?

gator59 · 29/01/2019 at 11:52
In 2018, Champion Data recorded 25 per cent of kick-ins to self across the AFL, with Sydney's Jake Lloyd totalling 157 kick-ins ahead of West Coast captain Shannon Hurn (151) and Brisbane's Alex Witherden (126)._Lloyd played onto himself 28 per cent of the time, while Hurn (41.7 per cent) and Witherden (41.3) used the tactic more frequently._Only Carlton's Kade Simpson (50 per cent) kicked the ball to himself to play on more than Hurn among the top-10 kick-in players from last season._There is an overwhelming feeling among the League office and AFL clubs that players will utilise the extra space between the man on the mark to run out of the square and hit longer targets in 2019._Therefore, there is likely to be a distinct spike in the percentage of players 'playing-on' from the goal square which the AFL believes could add a new element to the game._For AFL Fantasy players, defenders who take kick-ins could be more valuable with the potential for the player to run out of the square and get an easy kick stat.

gator59 · 29/01/2019 at 11:54
LLoyd and Hurn Derek

gator59 · 29/01/2019 at 11:57
I have put up stats from last year and waiting approval by the admins for some reason
LLoyd, Hurn, Witherden and simmo are your boys by the look

The Ranger · 29/01/2019 at 12:18
I'm intrigued to see what Whitfields role will be.
Someone has to take more midfield minutes with Shiel gone and with Williams back does Whitfield push into the mids more?
Or do Hopper and Taranto take up the slack?

gator59 · 29/01/2019 at 12:20
I think it will be Hopper and Taranto, Ranger

gator59 · 29/01/2019 at 12:34
Hi Ranger would you like to join one of my leagues called… The Rat Pack .. Code is 322190 .. Cheers mate

The Ranger · 29/01/2019 at 13:16
Onya gator, I'm in.

gator59 · 29/01/2019 at 13:27
cheers mate

Shake_n_bake · 29/01/2019 at 13:54
Derek For me its the 1st 2. Laird is rock solid in his role and l definitely think Whitfield ceiling this year will be alot higher this year due to being a mid and l can see him going fwd as an attacking mid getting on the score sheet.

gator59 · 29/01/2019 at 12:15
Top 10 kick-in players from 2018 … These are Champion Data Stats
Player
Kick-ins
To self (%)
Jake Lloyd
157
28.0
Shannon Hurn
151
41.7
Alex Witherden
126
41.3
Luke Ryan
107
0.9
Jayden Short
105
16.2
Nathan Wilson
105
16.2
Luke Brown
100
17.0
Kade Simpson
98
50.0
Steven May
94
24.5
Zach Tuohy
92
26.1

derek · 29/01/2019 at 13:43
last year a kick to self would have got SC points. those points are already in his average.
someone like Ryan, if he kicks the ball exactly the same as last year, but decides to run a meter out of the goal sqaure, that will could as a kick…. wow. will old habits die hard?

Tyruddanaut · 29/01/2019 at 13:50
It was actually Lloyd, then Ryan. Although very few of the statistics are shown, Witherden is no higher than 6th. Short, Brown and Wilson also get the nod.

Tyruddanaut · 29/01/2019 at 13:51
This is for kick-ins which were not played on

Shake_n_bake · 29/01/2019 at 18:09
Hey Derek, still hanging onto the last spot for u in my league! Just hope ur in. Let me know buddy 😊

gator59 · 29/01/2019 at 12:36
Hi Skindog would you like to join one of my leagues called… The Rat Pack .. Code is 322190 .. Cheers mate … Just let me know your team name if interested

skindog · 29/01/2019 at 12:44
Yeah sure Gator, team name is Rise of the Worpel

skindog · 29/01/2019 at 12:50
Joined Gator, cheers mate

gator59 · 29/01/2019 at 12:54
Great stuff .. welcome mate

skindog · 29/01/2019 at 12:58
Cheers mate, and thanks for the invite

JohnDJ59 · 29/01/2019 at 12:43
Hi Skindog when you say m&m do you mean Martin and Mumford ?

skindog · 29/01/2019 at 12:50
Hey DJ, no mate, Martin and McEvoy, bigboy had the 4th best average and missed 5 games with a broken cheekbone, just a thought, could do some wonderful things with the little extra cash,,,

JohnDJ59 · 29/01/2019 at 13:16
I know what you mean, that extra cash makes the other lines look so much better. I think who we start in the rucks will shape our whole season. Not really sure which way to go. I've tried three ruck combos so far Grundy/Gawn, Grundy/Martin, Grundy/Nank, even thought about Grundy/Fort, if Fort starts round one, but that could be a problem waiting to happen the way Geelong are with their rucks.

skindog · 29/01/2019 at 13:31
Exactly mate, will most likely settle with the big spend, set and forget,

gator59 · 29/01/2019 at 13:01
Jump into my other league too if you want Skindog…. Magnificent 7.. code..609300

skindog · 29/01/2019 at 14:10
done

BrownlowBoy · 29/01/2019 at 13:34
Sounds fun!

AuroraBorealis?! · 29/01/2019 at 13:45
Cheers for the invite Fin, sounds like a lot of fun

derek · 29/01/2019 at 13:51
i have played in one draft for the last 3 years and really loved it. You really own each player. i'm still trying to master the strategy. A 'keeper' league is another level again, worry about next year, when this year is hard enough.
I'm keen if there is enough interest

gator59 · 29/01/2019 at 13:54
A draft league hmm count me in Fin .. should be fun… When will you know the draft league code

Finnius · 29/01/2019 at 16:00
Code is 766812 gator 🙂

JohnDJ59 · 29/01/2019 at 14:25
Hi Finnius, sounds interesting, I've never played in a draft league before,I'll have to look up how it works.If you don't mind a rookie being in the league, I will give it a go.

gator59 · 29/01/2019 at 14:37
It's not as bad as you think it is JD.. You get to choose your players and no one in the league can have the same as the players that you have.. ie that's why they call it a draft side but there's a strategy behind on how to pick your players

JohnDJ59 · 29/01/2019 at 14:45
OK so it's a bit like the AFL draft, each has a pick per round till we have a team ?

Finnius · 29/01/2019 at 16:00
Yeah, so its pretty much like the AFL draft – but you have the option to keep the players for future years as well. So buying young guns could be key for years to come, as well as picking the obvious jets as well.
You can then trade with other players in the league if you want.

JohnDJ59 · 29/01/2019 at 16:12
Thanks Finnius, slowly getting the idea.One other thing, we still have to have players in position or is it a free for all.

Finnius · 29/01/2019 at 16:59
Players must be in position – so don’t just stack your midfield but have no defenders etc.

JohnDJ59 · 29/01/2019 at 19:08
Thanks Finnius, I've joined up.

TOPHAWK · 29/01/2019 at 15:01
Count me in Finnius! I am a bit of a novice in draft, but it is good fun. Cheers. TH

hedski · 29/01/2019 at 15:07
Never done draft before but I'll give it a crack, cheers Fin.

Shake_n_bake · 29/01/2019 at 15:17
Definitely give it a go. Novice at best but looks looks like fun.

neil demons delight · 29/01/2019 at 15:26
Thanks for the invite Finn I am in also Gator will fill me in how it works cheers mate NDD

Finnius · 29/01/2019 at 15:58
I'm glad there is enough interest. League code is 766812 🙂

neil demons delight · 29/01/2019 at 17:18
code not working finn

Finnius · 29/01/2019 at 19:05
Are you sure NDD? A few other teams have joined.

hedski · 29/01/2019 at 19:40
Have you gone into draft and registered there Neil?

neil demons delight · 29/01/2019 at 20:05
how do I do that dion

JohnDJ59 · 29/01/2019 at 20:15
Just what hedski said, click on draft.

neil demons delight · 29/01/2019 at 21:35
in thx

hedski · 29/01/2019 at 20:32
On your drop down menu at SC site, select draft, as you register it will give you the option to enter league code.

Shake_n_bake · 29/01/2019 at 17:41
Hey Fin, so do we all have to be online on March 3rd?? Is that how it works?

Finnius · 29/01/2019 at 19:06
Yup @shake – 60 seconds per selection so you have to be paying attention. Can make a list beforehand in the order of the players you want etc.

Shake_n_bake · 29/01/2019 at 19:17
I thought it said 90sec. Well 60sec hope my computer plays nice. Had to check my roster lucky im off!

JohnDJ59 · 29/01/2019 at 19:41
You are correct Shake it said 90 sec.

TRIGGA_HAPPY · 29/01/2019 at 21:33
Reckon we need 90 secs.

Finnius · 30/01/2019 at 11:53
Yup it is 90 my mistake

TRIGGA_HAPPY · 29/01/2019 at 16:27
Seems like Novice is the flavour of this draft
Happy to add to the flavour
Thanks for the invite Fin 👍
Sure u will work out my team name. 😁

gator59 · 29/01/2019 at 21:27
It won't let me in either Fin..I'm already registered into one draft league and that's all I can do… I click on create or join a league and nothing happens… When I put the cursor onto create or join it stays as an arrow and won't convert to the finger sign… It's got me stuffed… Have logged out and logged back I and still no go

gator59 · 29/01/2019 at 22:24
All good now have gone through my phone

Russty_ · 30/01/2019 at 04:57
Hi Finn, I'll give it a go mate, never played it before but it should be fun..I've played the other one for several years but just set it on auto trade usually lol. I'll do some research to see how it all works.

JohnDJ59 · 30/01/2019 at 12:39
Hey Finn, I just had a look at the league and there are two 'Blakes Hard Wick' teams by Tom.

Maverick_ · 30/01/2019 at 21:09
Let me Know if a spot pops up Finnius would love to join in am a huge fan of the draft.

gator59 · 29/01/2019 at 14:07
Love all this that you have done here.. I'm still running with G'n Rooks atm which includes Grundy and Gawn.. The only thing that worries me is that other big bloke being Pruess and his roll… Hopefully we'll have more of an idea from the JLT

derek · 29/01/2019 at 14:14
it is when Picketts, Simpkin, venables, menapoo types score 15 each……..

Ja191 · 29/01/2019 at 14:54
true but in saying that there's always the kelly/fritsch types which average well above 50 which evens it out

BomTellchambers · 29/01/2019 at 18:19
Also, once you start trading it changes everything that's when the big boys come out on top….Also Grundy is a captain option every week so double score

JohnDJ59 · 29/01/2019 at 14:57
Hi Tyruddanaut, I like that, we need to look at our team as a whole not just what position they play in. If Titch had been playing this year, I wouldn't have worried about how much he cost, you just had to have him in your team.I usually try to have 12 premos, so it really shouldn't matter what position they are in as long as I have around that number.

Finnius · 29/01/2019 at 16:05
But also all 3 of those players you mentioned dropped significantlyy in price throughout the season – Even Titch was cheap in about round 6. You can save a lot of coin whilst also investing in OTHER uber premos if you have a look at Gawn in particular. You aren't 'losing' points because you gain them in other areas of the field. I.e. Grundyy (120-130), Macrae (similar price to Gawn and average 115-130) + Wigg (40-60) is the same as Gawn, Grundy and the rookie. You get a lock mid and ruckman whilst also having a look at who the #2 ruck will be.
If you believe Gawn will be top 2 then don't worry about it, but it isn't as black and white if not.
Indeed, without Gawn I have 12 uber premos in my side + Williams: Lloyd, Laird, Whitfield, Macrae, Oliver, Cripps, Kelly, Neale, Grundy, Danger, Heeney, Dunkley.

Russty_ · 30/01/2019 at 04:31
How's the Doppelganger business going?…very flattering, thanks…lol

BomTellchambers · 29/01/2019 at 18:16
This is a good question and one that I haven't seen asked. Apparently defenders are going to gain appt from kick ins, key forwards will Excel with 6-6-6 and ruckmen will improve too…wtf.
Imo I don't think the defenders will improve like some are implying. For starters they can't start as a +1 at a centre bounce which will result in less intercept possessions (which are big points)

TRIGGA_HAPPY · 29/01/2019 at 21:29
Will be really interesting to see where the points go under new rules.
I think mids will benefit as much as any.
Especially the receiver.
As now have to start 6 – 6 – 6 wont have the guy coming hard off the square
Ruck tap to a mid who flicks it to the outside, now with time and space he can hit up a target inside 50.
The game has changed …

fatboyfat7 · 29/01/2019 at 21:31
If the rucks do that though,it stands to reason that they'll also see a reduction in their hit out to advantage scoring… Might level itself out?
I also agree with Bom Tellchambers on the defenders. I don't see the scores going up that much at all. I've posted about it before but a lot of these players taking kick-ins already played on quite a bit, the extra few times times now isn't going to make enormous difference.

skindog · 29/01/2019 at 21:02
Exactly how i think, more in the engine room, but are the rule changes and the scoring changes going to change how we play this wicked game of our actual even better game gets played? are we going to having to krrp looking at it differently evedrytime a rule changes etc??

fatboyfat7 · 29/01/2019 at 21:23
I think the available rookies on each line should be a bigger factor that the rule change at this stage.

JohnDJ59 · 29/01/2019 at 21:29
Spot on fatboy, we need the rookies to turn up on all lines.I will need at least three playing rookies on each of the def/mid/fwd lines.If there are more on one line and less on the other,I will have to mould my team around that.

TRIGGA_HAPPY · 29/01/2019 at 21:38
Agree.
I see more in the mids at this stage so where there should be more on ground.

skindog · 29/01/2019 at 21:44
Spot on boys, was just noticing a little trend, thought id share, was interested on peoples opinions too

derek · 30/01/2019 at 13:06
I am looking at locking in 12 keepers. 3 – 5 – 1 – 3
Then having one keeper on each line as my 'stand-by'. one of them will be included depending on where the rookies are. At the moment im thinking the forwards might be short on rookies. The Chad might get a start in the bunnies.

Ktfg · 29/01/2019 at 21:13
Goldy**

Ktfg · 29/01/2019 at 21:14
And merret** ffs haha

hedski · 29/01/2019 at 22:28
I like it Ktfg, similar structure to mine, when the rooks come out we'll be able to adjust accordingly.

gator59 · 29/01/2019 at 21:53
Well I wouldn't imagine Lek and co would ban such a great coach

skindog · 29/01/2019 at 22:09
He probably had enough, or found his true love on tinder??

hedski · 29/01/2019 at 22:26
A bit of both I reckon skindog.
Good coach to have around, hope he gets back amongst it.

Lekdog · 29/01/2019 at 22:46
Nah reckon he’s found a lovely mate swiping right

gator59 · 29/01/2019 at 22:47
We certainly hope so hedski

AuroraBorealis?! · 30/01/2019 at 09:26
Fingers crossed

skindog · 29/01/2019 at 22:57
Either that or he Knocked one up and as a result has had to go underground so baby mamma cant find him??

neil demons delight · 30/01/2019 at 10:32
Yes a good contributer to the forum Hope he is back soon

gator59 · 29/01/2019 at 22:50
You could also do that with Mummy JD.. But I think Kruez has more upside

JohnDJ59 · 29/01/2019 at 23:14
Have a feeling both are going to have injury issues, but it could work if Fort gets a go. I tried Grundy/Gawn today, I managed to get my 12 keepers, but just about all the rookies had to be 117,300 to 123,900 rookies and I can't see that happening, only had $300 left, so no wriggle room so to speak.

gator59 · 29/01/2019 at 23:21
The premos I showed to you yesty and with the rookies that I think will play still leaves me 68k for wriggle room

JohnDJ59 · 30/01/2019 at 00:14
Had another go, moved things around a bit, added $22,500 to the kitty.So it might work out, now we just have to see how Gawn goes preseason and if Preuss has an impact.

fatboyfat7 · 30/01/2019 at 18:24
And if Sweet and Fort both start?

fatboyfat7 · 30/01/2019 at 18:25
And just to add, there's no guarantee that just because he starts that'll he'll score well… Darcy Cameron is a good example, only played a handful of games but still never scored well. It's very risky imo.

JohnDJ59 · 30/01/2019 at 21:19
Hi fatboy, I have no intention of having either Fort or Kreuzer at R2 myself I just thought since so many people were thinking of Kreuzer as a R2 but were then turned off by his injury that a Fort R2/Kreuzer R3 combo might be a thought, just until they can upgrade to Gawn.

JohnDJ59 · 30/01/2019 at 00:22
Hi Saalih, nice team, I would be downgrading Miles to a rookie, I'm expecting enough mid rookies to turn up to have three on the ground. I don't mind your top three defenders, the only other one I would look at is Williams.I think you need either Smith, Dunkley or Heeney in your fwd line.

Saalih Soliman · 30/01/2019 at 00:37
agreed about dunkley heeney or smith, but personally i prefer either dunkley or heeney but not sure which one, leaning slightly to dunkley.

Lekdog · 30/01/2019 at 07:45
Agree with John, I've dropped Miles to a rookie and it has freed me up a fair bit

JohnDJ59 · 30/01/2019 at 10:44
I don't think you can go wrong with either of them Saalih

TOPHAWK1 · 31/01/2019 at 09:27
Ahhhhh, silence is golden!

skindog · 30/01/2019 at 12:20
Too much spend in the defs for mine mate, might want to think about dropping one of Lloyd, Sicily, Laird or witherden, and get another premo un your mids,,

JohnDJ59 · 30/01/2019 at 12:29
I'd get rid of the flog Sicily from def and bring in Oliver for the mids.

skindog · 30/01/2019 at 12:34
Dont talk about The Stallion like that DJ59,, hahaha

GloryDays94 · 30/01/2019 at 13:06
Be careful with Laird this year. His output may not be as big as last year with the new kick in rules

gator59 · 30/01/2019 at 13:31
I agree with you GD .. Fu%$en new rules every year.. I can't think of any other sport where there is so many rule changes .. All to try and make the game quicker

Holty01 · 30/01/2019 at 11:51
Macrae. Only because we don’t know yet how Preuss will affect Gawn’s output.

Lekdog · 30/01/2019 at 12:16
Macrae but both

_Kyle · 30/01/2019 at 18:45
Not worried by the preuss factor mate?

Box · 30/01/2019 at 18:40
Yeh back at training but not training……………….

Sharkmove_King · 30/01/2019 at 20:22
Already! Wow!

skindog · 30/01/2019 at 14:05
Hahahahahaha, worth a thought??

TRIGGA_HAPPY · 30/01/2019 at 14:11
Buddy gonna love the change to hands in the back
There is 15-20 points right there as always penalised each game.

gator59 · 30/01/2019 at 14:25
So true Trigga

JohnDJ59 · 30/01/2019 at 13:49
I like the top one best.

Ralph · 30/01/2019 at 16:22
Cheers John

TRIGGA_HAPPY · 30/01/2019 at 14:09
Im going top on at this stage – though dunkley is f4

Ralph · 30/01/2019 at 16:22
Thanks Trig

Shake_n_bake · 30/01/2019 at 14:08
Count me in. Never been in a cash league how does it work? Is it if u win the GF you take all?

derek · 30/01/2019 at 14:44
just the same as any other league. Just costs $20 to join and the winner takes all. 18x$20=$360

Shake_n_bake · 30/01/2019 at 14:59
👍

Murray · 31/01/2019 at 20:04
I'll join derek

AuroraBorealis?! · 30/01/2019 at 15:00
Awesome i'd love to join, been looking for one

derek · 30/01/2019 at 16:29
send me an email to [email protected]

hedski · 30/01/2019 at 18:16
I'm keen Derek, flicked you an email.

Holty01 · 30/01/2019 at 21:07
I’m keen

gator59 · 31/01/2019 at 10:02
I'm in Derek.. email sent .. cheers mate

Derek · 31/01/2019 at 13:11
Thanks fellas
Few spots still available

gator59 · 31/01/2019 at 14:25
Iv'e paid and what's the League code Derek

derek · 31/01/2019 at 14:36
i'll email it to you

gator59 · 31/01/2019 at 15:00
ok mate

neil demons delight · 30/01/2019 at 16:56
Last time I was at training he left early with an abductor problem Only minor tightness gone to Maroochydore for a week. In the mix but not in my squad

Tyruddanaut · 30/01/2019 at 18:59
Don’t love Sloane but you can grab Macrae if he dips and you can’t do the same with Grundy. Option 1

RoyWetard · 30/01/2019 at 19:13
I've been thinking about this same question but with Gawn in place of Grundy. I suggest option 1 as a ruck scoring 130 is more valuable than a mid scoring 130.

gator59 · 30/01/2019 at 15:46
Maybe SPP could benefit more

Rick Grimes · 30/01/2019 at 15:57
I already had Gray pencilled in. Now in indelible marker. I'll roll him through my midfield to start, then push forward. Trying a new strategy of running forwards through kids until I'm certain who are must haves in the guts.

Rick Grimes · 30/01/2019 at 15:57
Mids*

Tyruddanaut · 30/01/2019 at 19:00
Makes sense, but I’m just leaving them forward and going light in the mids

derek · 30/01/2019 at 16:30
Gray is a keeper. What happens when Wines come back?

derek · 31/01/2019 at 10:49
Rocky?

Rick Grimes · 30/01/2019 at 15:58
Been burnt a couple times. He'll get a lot of attention. Think I'll wait and see if there's any life left.

skindog · 30/01/2019 at 16:01
Hey Gator, i was going him at the start but pulled him for that reason,never a full season,one less hassle,

skindog · 30/01/2019 at 16:10
Sorry Glory, my bad, didnt realise i typed Gator, brain fade, sorry

GloryDays94 · 30/01/2019 at 16:19
All good mate. Might miss some big scores but may cost a trade after a few rounds if he gets injured.. risky both ways

gator59 · 30/01/2019 at 16:24
hahaha

derek · 30/01/2019 at 16:31
he is a really good pick

Lazza · 30/01/2019 at 16:49
Derek, yours was reply # 666… I'm now steering clear of Fyfe … 🙂

Ralph · 30/01/2019 at 16:52
Fyfe's first 3 rounds are against North, GC and the Saints. He could almost be averaging 150 going into round 4…

skindog · 30/01/2019 at 17:15
Thanks Ralph, now im second guessing myself, will go up in price too! shit,,,

Matt · 30/01/2019 at 23:59
But fyfe will be tagged round one by jacobs

Ralph · 31/01/2019 at 09:49
Last time Freo played North Fyfe scored 163 so I don't see why you would be concerned about the tag

DavidC · 31/01/2019 at 09:57
Jacobs only played 13 games last year, not sure if he played against Freo. Was Fyfe tagged that game?

Ralph · 31/01/2019 at 14:00
Jacobs played and scored 111. Not sure if he was tagging or not, would need to find a north supporter with a good memory 😉

skindog · 30/01/2019 at 17:06
Cheers Glory, yeah will miss some scores but he'll miss games, not a headache i want!!

Rick Grimes · 30/01/2019 at 21:22
You think Fort starts? I've been playing around with him in there, certainly makes things fun.

BrownlowBoy · 31/01/2019 at 10:14
Not sure what happened John but I removed myself

JohnDJ59 · 31/01/2019 at 11:32
OK thanks for letting me know BB.By the way if you haven't maxed out in your leagues I have the Holy Grail, code 421265 if you were interested.

BrownlowBoy · 31/01/2019 at 11:48
Thanks mate I'll jump in!
Edit: league code doesn't seem to work?

JohnDJ59 · 31/01/2019 at 12:08
Sorry BB I hit the wrong number and didn't check, the right one is 461265

AuroraBorealis?! · 30/01/2019 at 19:57
I think he'll be cheaper later on in the season, so im gonna wait until a bit later on and get him as an upgrade

KeenButClueless · 30/01/2019 at 20:06
I am also considering whether the new 6-6-6 starting structure might impact on intercept marking players. Maybe I am overthinking it, but at his high starting price, plus the fact that those with kick in duties might benefit more, I am not sure he is worth it to begin. Probably an upgrade target during the season, but I don’t think I will start with him

Skindog · 30/01/2019 at 20:41
Bastard

Tyruddanaut · 30/01/2019 at 21:38
Didn’t you say Rory Lobb last year? Or was that another shark move

Sharkmove_King · 30/01/2019 at 22:05
No that was an imposter. Unfortunately, in my line of work that's not uncommon

One Touch Wonder · 30/01/2019 at 21:45
I can’t wait to see what you have for us.

The Ranger · 31/01/2019 at 14:10
i was wondering when you'd be back One Touch, the season wouldn't be the same with out your excellent SHARKMOVES.
Onya mate.

gator59 · 31/01/2019 at 14:28
Probably Tex Walker again

neil demons delight · 31/01/2019 at 14:33
or Billings might not be a shark move though lots will have him

derek · 31/01/2019 at 15:21
has to be Rockcliff

The Ranger · 31/01/2019 at 15:27
Webster?

Skindog · 31/01/2019 at 20:45
Atley

Lekdog · 30/01/2019 at 21:47
You also got us onto Jack Macrae Tommy B!

Dice_real · 31/01/2019 at 09:18
Drop the names before JLT and you'll really get praised down the track if all goes well.
Don't drop names….don't believe in it

TMitch · 01/02/2019 at 21:30
Yeah Dunkley great but the other 30 predictions you made flopped

Holty01 · 30/01/2019 at 21:15
LoI. Well I might be in trouble to as he is currently my r2 as well

Tyruddanaut · 30/01/2019 at 21:39
I hope your R3 is Mumford then

Holty01 · 30/01/2019 at 22:19
Nope. Westhoff in the forward line with a loop to the rucks in case fort doesn’t perform

skindog · 30/01/2019 at 21:26
You guys are craaaaaaaazy

KeenButClueless · 30/01/2019 at 21:33
Probably. I just remember how crazy Sandi-Witts sounded a couple of years ago. Until it wasn’t crazy and was a winning move. Maybe because I missed it that I am trying too hard to duplicate it, but it’s January! And I do think there is a germ of an idea there, which this community might take to another level

Holty01 · 30/01/2019 at 21:43
It really depends how many rookies are named rd1 as well. If we are short in the forward line, maybe we will have to go an extra premo there and the fort at R2 won’t seem that silly. We won’t know for sure until those rd1 teams are named. But it is exciting of the possibility of having a rookie ruckman playing rd1. Can’t remember the last time we had that option

Lazza · 30/01/2019 at 21:38
It’s happened to me few times KBC … no idea why

hedski · 30/01/2019 at 21:40
I'd make an intense debate account keen, seems to make things easier and no-one can write crap with your handle.

KeenButClueless · 30/01/2019 at 21:55
Good advice Hedski. Thanks. Done!

Lekdog · 30/01/2019 at 21:44
This setting won't stay off, I think once I've ticked you off once though you'll be sweet

KeenButClueless · 30/01/2019 at 21:55
Thanks Lek. Have followed Hedski’s advice and created an IntenseDebate account.

Lekdog · 30/01/2019 at 22:43
That'll certainly help!

Bombers56 · 31/01/2019 at 00:40
I created an account but no matter how many time I press the button does not seem to work._What am I doing wrong?

Lekdog · 31/01/2019 at 09:11
Nit sure mate, not seeing any issues on my end

neil demons delight · 31/01/2019 at 14:36
good for you Rakesh you are a breath of freshness You will please many that are here for just that FUN best of Luck enjoy the season

skindog · 30/01/2019 at 21:37
nope, just you

Whitey · 30/01/2019 at 21:39
Yes you are crazy but a couple of years ago I started with a cheap Sandilands and Witts and that worked out pretty good.

Tyruddanaut · 30/01/2019 at 21:40
That’s too crazy because Mumford won’t play the first 3 rounds and Fort might not even play a round. Let alone Sweet who won’t play early, youre gone mate

Sharkmove_King · 30/01/2019 at 22:09
I'm crazy myself but I'd even say that's a stretch. Assuming Sweet & Fort are named Round 1 take them both with a big boy (Grundy or Gawn). If Mumford smashes it, trade one of the rookies for him Round 5.

GloryDays94 · 30/01/2019 at 21:43
One to watch in JLT for sure.

Sharkmove_King · 30/01/2019 at 22:12
I'm sensing you have the SHARKMOVE blood too. I like Fisher, I like him alot….however AFL.com.au says he is currently injured (only short term) and also I don't like the fact Pickett is injured and Carlton have drafted some midfielders. I forecast Fishers midtime could decrease in 2019 due to a needs basis.

Holty01 · 30/01/2019 at 22:35
I grabbed him last year. Maybe one year too early

Lekdog · 30/01/2019 at 22:44
Great for draft, don't see a massive spike from him this year but understand the thought process

Ja191 · 31/01/2019 at 07:48
Only worry is their number of good midfielders similar to geelong, hard to see one of them averaging high

fatboyfat7 · 31/01/2019 at 11:14
In my team at M5 Michael and have been keeping it quiet.
As you pointed out, when moved back into the guts from half back last year he scored brilliantly. Even go back one season further, a 107.5 average. At 523k, def worth a crack.

SW Roosters · 31/01/2019 at 10:25
Birchall gets a bit of a mention in this article: https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-01-30/troublesom…
Back running and doing some change of direction work after a setback and knee surgery in December.

derek · 31/01/2019 at 10:58
Put a line through him mate.
article yesterday;
'Grant Birchall also moving towards returning to training with the main group in the next month. Birchall is tracking towards being able to return in May or loosely anywhere from about round four through to eight. Birchall did not play a game last year and only managed five matches in 2017.
He is expected to join in ball work in the next month after he had further surgery pre-Christmas to clean up his knee following the posterior cruciate surgery last year.
“He is going as well as we hoped after he went back in pre-Christmas for a clean up.
“I would expect he will join back in ball work but not full training in the next week or so. He has been running for two weeks before the recent four-day break.“
Hawthorn typically requires players to be in full training with the group for 10 weeks before being available to play. Birchall is still several weeks from resuming full training with the group.
“He will join in some skills but he might be another month away from full training, it might be sooner but we will not be pushing him. He is tracking where we thought he would be after he had his surgery pre-Christmas,” Wright said.

TOPHAWK1 · 31/01/2019 at 20:37
Thanks Derek. Put the black marker pen through his name.

gator59 · 31/01/2019 at 10:59
Hi Toppa I just rang a mate that's in the know down at the hawks and says Birchall is on a modified program and looking for him to be named come round 4 to 6

TOPHAWK1 · 31/01/2019 at 20:38
Yep Gator. He is a non starter. Cheers.

skindog · 31/01/2019 at 12:58
Had some cartilage cleaned out just before Chrissy, he'll be a while yet TopHawk

The Ranger · 31/01/2019 at 14:05
Too much of an injury risk to put in from the start methinks

TRIGGA_HAPPY · 31/01/2019 at 11:57
Same

derek · 31/01/2019 at 18:00
Gawns TOG might fall, which might reduce points

Bombers56 · 31/01/2019 at 16:42
Your link is to a file on your computer and won't work on here. You are going to have to write your team down and re-post it.

BrownlowBoy · 31/01/2019 at 12:41
I believe Damo was writing an article about him!

Lekdog · 31/01/2019 at 22:38
Correct!

derek · 31/01/2019 at 13:48
that is a very awkward price. however i think forward rookies might be very hard to find this year, so as a 'expensive rookie' he might be worth a look.
i'm looking at Greene at $110k more if he is fit, if not probably go with 4 guns in forward line, plus Setterfield and one rookie (if we can find even one)

JohnDJ59 · 01/02/2019 at 13:50
Hi derek, I did have Wingard at F4 for a while, but I decided to go with Smith at D4 instead of a rookie, so couldn't afford a good F4, but I'm still not prone to having three genuine rookies in the fwd line, so looking for someone who should be a regular in their team, but not cost more than $250,000

The Ranger · 31/01/2019 at 14:03
I'm sticking with Fyfe in the hope he'll get more mid time than ever.

hedski · 31/01/2019 at 14:07
I have both ATM but considering Neale/Kelly for Fyfe, I'm a bit scared to leave Fyfe out in case he goes gangbusters at the start.
Dusty is a steal for that price.

derek · 31/01/2019 at 14:34
i'm looking at a team with Grundy and Gawn in the rucks, to find the extra cash; Fyfe becomes Dusty, Kelly becomes MCrouch, Greene becomes a rookie.
team doesn't look too bad:
Lloyd, Witherden, Williams, Quaynor, Logue, Scrimshaw (Wilkie, Wigg)
Cripps, Oliver, Dusty, MCrouch, Merrett, Stocker, Constable, Hind (Collier-dawkins, Bewley, Valente)
Grundy, Gawn (Fort)
Dangerfield, DSmith, Heeney, Wingard, Setterfield, Cavarra (Mosquito, Koschitzke)

JohnDJ59 · 31/01/2019 at 14:53
I like it derek, your top three defenders are the same as mine, I did have Laird but swapped him for a rookie so I could bolster my fwd line which is also very close to yours.I also have three of your top four mids. I did have Gawn as my R2 but I'm going to wait and see on that one, I just replaced him with a player I have never had in my team before, Goldy. I'm currently mulling over my M4, either Cogs, Bont or Dusty, who would you recommend derek.

derek · 31/01/2019 at 15:14
i doubt very much i will start with Gawn at R2, just not in my DNA
I was thinking Kruzer, but read he had a bit of a setback.
of the three you mentioned, Dusty has shown he has the most upside. Bont will spend most of his time as a forward this year, so many doggy midfielders and i think Cogs will get attention without Shields

JohnDJ59 · 31/01/2019 at 15:37
Thanks for the reply derek, when you spell it out like that, Dusty does seem the obvious choice. I really would like to have Gawn in my team again, I've started with him the last three years, so it's going to be strange him not being there, but his price is just so huge when there is a ? over what roll Preuss is going to play.

TOPHAWK1 · 31/01/2019 at 20:44
Nice Derek. Not a big spend down back. I like that. Zerrett and Crouch picks are terrific. Both great value. Gawn might be a bit pricey with Pruess now hovering about. I am sticking with the non Pruess beneficiary. (Goldy). Wingard is carrying an injury. I was starting him but I am weary now, but a sneaky replacement option…..James Worpel. Cheers

neil demons delight · 31/01/2019 at 15:34
agree Hedski Dusty is too much value to leave out but cant ignore Fyfe I hate to say it but Clarry will go. Merrett fyfe neale dusty and Harmes for NDD and if Gawn goes Cripps gets a gig

derek · 31/01/2019 at 17:59
i do like Oliver, but there is now a slight injury question over his shoulders. Viney will be back this year might take some of the inside points away, same price as fyfe and Kelly. I had all three about a week ago, tough call.

TOPHAWK1 · 31/01/2019 at 20:46
I am another coach watching Harmes. He could have a huge year!! Bargain at $453K

Bombers56 · 31/01/2019 at 16:56
Won't go near Dusty especially after last year.
Hearing that Fyfe is training well and I am hoping he gets off to a flyer.
But my sneaky pick is Hunter from the Bulldogs, I had him for the last 5 rounds last year and I was very happy with him.

derek · 31/01/2019 at 17:57
that is very sneaky. 0% owned.
$555k is not cheap.

TRIGGA_HAPPY · 31/01/2019 at 20:11
No fyfe or oliver for Mr Trigga to start
Read Dusty was just going through the motions last year thinking anither flag was just a case kf when.
Got himself superfit and hungry.
Im on him.

TOPHAWK1 · 31/01/2019 at 20:51
Big call Trigga!! I would start with at least one of Oliver or Fyfe. Dusty is growing on me as a starter. At that price you have to have serious reasons to leave a guy like that on the shelf. Absolute bargain. Knowing Dusty, he probably feels guilty after a mediocre 2018 and blames himself a bit for that Prelim defeat against the pies. "If only I had have worked and trained a bit harder, things could have been different". He could come out smoking in 2019. Cheers mate.

Lazza · 31/01/2019 at 21:05
Dusty is in my team.. my 2nd lock after rips. Dusty is rated #1 player by Champion Data for good reason. .. was carrying an injury for most of last year and will give you 22 games this year with much more time mid field.. Fyfe is a gun, but toss a coin on his full season contribution… Fyfe will also have max opposition cover this year without Neale

BrownlowBoy · 31/01/2019 at 14:43
In cheers mate

JohnDJ59 · 31/01/2019 at 14:59
No worries BB, sorry about the wrong number, I should have checked that I had put it in correctly, just glad you saw my post.

BrownlowBoy · 31/01/2019 at 16:24
No worries thanks heaps for the invite!

derek · 31/01/2019 at 15:04
thats solid for a Grundy/Gawn team.
depends where the rookies land, you may have to switch a Laird to a DSmith

gator59 · 31/01/2019 at 15:08
You might need glasses Derek… It says Grundy/Goldy

derek · 31/01/2019 at 15:20
why is there no edit button anymore?

hedski · 31/01/2019 at 15:36
I don't think you can edit if somebody replies to your post.
Could you please flick me an email or just post here to confirm my cash league payment went through Derek? Cheers.

Finnius · 31/01/2019 at 15:20
Hi mate I’d be interested. Let me know your email please 🙂

Such is Fyfe · 31/01/2019 at 18:56
Email [email protected], cheers mate. Look forward to the season ahead

Lazza · 31/01/2019 at 19:53
Hey SiF, any places left?

Such is Fyfe · 01/02/2019 at 10:44
Hey mate yeah well and truly open, send us an email for details

The Ranger · 31/01/2019 at 15:26
I'm starting him at D3 and if he ends up as my D6 av95 I'll be pretty happy with that.
I don't aim to get the top six as that's pretty unlikely, just six of the top ten.

JohnDJ59 · 31/01/2019 at 20:52
He's my D3 as well Ranger, was my D4 but I had to trade Laird out due to a weak fwd line, so he moved up one.

derek · 31/01/2019 at 16:28
lock him in to your starting team. he will outscore BSmith and DRich

hedski · 31/01/2019 at 18:46
I have Burn Man Smith at D4…….

Skindog · 31/01/2019 at 20:52
I’ve had him in and out but I have a rule, no burnmen and no midpricers, him and Libby coming back from injuries, granted Smith got back for a couple at the end last year, but then he’s had holidays, won’t touch em

Lazza · 31/01/2019 at 20:21
ZWilliams is priced @ 74 pts… starting price of Top 10 is 90 pts and for Top 6 is 95 pts..
whilst he didn’t play in 2018 his starting price was $516,200 / 94 pts…he finished 2017 with an average of 93.9 pts…
Based on his past performance he will be Top 10 easy and more than likely Top 6. Either way he is the cheapest DEF keeper you will get .

TOPHAWK1 · 31/01/2019 at 20:56
I am starting with Zac Williams at this point. If he is in the groove during the JLT, he is a LOCK come round 1.

neil demons delight · 31/01/2019 at 19:47
Yes me too jd. and your replacements are spot on Going to be difficult but I would look at Harmes as well NDD

JohnDJ59 · 31/01/2019 at 20:48
I've actually got Harmes down for my Draft team.

Lazza · 31/01/2019 at 20:57
Agree… I’m not starting with Oliver, not because of his price but because of the nature of his ops and his managed pre-season.. I’ll watch him till his bye and pick him up then if travelling ok. Gawn is a wait and see as well… … whilst he got through last year that was only his 2nd out of 8 that he managed 22 games.. I also think Weideman will have a huge impact this year, and will take some of Gawn’s load, esnpecially up fwd. And tm not even considering any impact from Preuss…
Actually, as my team stands, I have no Melb players..

JohnDJ59 · 31/01/2019 at 21:53
Hi Lazza, when you put it that way, with Oliver's managed pr-season and the fact the Dees are looking to spread Gawns load, which I was also worried about and the reason I thought their price was a bit on the high side, it makes sense to wait and see. I'm also considering Weiderman as a F4/F5 if the rookies don't turn up, come round one.

TOPHAWK1 · 31/01/2019 at 21:02
Hi John. I like it. There are points and cash upside in Goldy. (No Pruess and he is $150K cheaper). The exact opposite applies for Gawn. Rational calculated decision: Todd Goldstein at R2.
Clayton Oliver is a beast yet pricey. Remember Angus Brayshaw is one serious head knock away from retirement. James Harmes is one not to overlook. Could be in for a big season.
Cheers

JohnDJ59 · 31/01/2019 at 22:02
Hi TOPHAWK1 I really did want to start with the Grundy/Gawn combo, in fact I still have it, but the more I looked at the rest of my side, I could see it just wasn't going to work, not at the start anyway. On the Brayshaw pick, which I haven't set in stone yet, I thought as long as he wore the helmet he was OK.

TOPHAWK1 · 31/01/2019 at 23:10
LIFT OFF!!!

Skindog · 31/01/2019 at 23:29
In at f4,,,,,,, 4 now?

TMItch · 01/02/2019 at 21:27
400k for a 9-gamer! LMFAO

Skindog · 31/01/2019 at 23:33
Hey gator, ( got it right this time, saw you laughing haha) they always get hyped, I don’t over priced rookies, maybe Setterfield if he’s fit? That’s tops for me, most of the time don’t make enough cash or don’t score well, you get the odd one bit I’d rather miss out the odd one and get ones that fatten fast for the slaughter, in saying that, Rankine has me interested a little, kid can play, that’s going to be a last minute call that one,??

gator59 · 01/02/2019 at 10:52
Thanks Skinny.. I was just wanting other peoples thoughts on him.. It's just how the media are pumping him up and saying he's a must have… The way I look at it is you can make more cash off a 123k player than the top end rookies

JohnDJ59 · 01/02/2019 at 13:34
Hi Skindog and gator, I have him at M6 just for now, I'm hoping I don't have to use him, that enough 117,300 – 123,900 rookies turn up.

gator59 · 01/02/2019 at 14:21
I'm pretty sure the lower end rookies will be playing JD

The Ranger · 01/02/2019 at 18:55
Can't see myself stumping up 200K for him gator.
Unless he pumps out 4 tons over the JLT and the first two rounds.
I'll jump on then.

Ja191 · 01/02/2019 at 11:41
I’ve gone Merrett and not starting with Fyfe, just too injury prone

The Ranger · 01/02/2019 at 18:51
I have Miles too at the moment but Libba is tempting eh Mav?
Where's Northernsoul74? He's good for inside info on the Dogs so I wonder if he's starting him?

The Ranger · 01/02/2019 at 18:50
A few people seem to be toying with Fort at R2 Mark…if looks good now but what's the plan if he only gets two or three games?
You can't trust a Geelong ruckman as far as you can throw one.