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RATE MY TEAM | Supercoach is open!

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Supercoach is open as of midnight, and for everyone who didn’t have access to Supercoach Gold, that means it’s time to get stuck in.

It’s the preseason, which means it’s time for those weird and wacky speculative picks that will never make it into your side to find their ways into your side.

This also marks the beginning of a huge preseason here at Jock HQ. We’re firing up the podcasts, brains are ticking over and the trusty crew are having their pens begin to scratch away.

But there’s no analytics in your first team – well, at least not mine. It’s finding all the bargains, all the silly speculations and the burn-men come out to play.

Get it all out of your system.

It’s the time of the year where a backline with everyone under 400k fly without a second thought and Joe Daniher can sit in your forward line without any consideration of those 40s he’ll score two out of three weeks.

So come one, come all, and bequeath us your first drafts! Tell us your Supercoach resolutions for 2019! Come chew the fat!

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Patch

I was going to put mine up to kick us off but the pre-season picker is down as they gear up for the official opening. Danigt.

Russty_

Danigt…is that a German Punk band?

Godd_Toldstein

Put it up now then

Lekdog

Sadly I think you missed the cut Godd

H stare

Kick in rule change may not be the sc god send most think. Ball may now clear the area – no switches. Defenders Kick mark kick mark after a score may vanish.

Trav

Libba, Roberton, Kreuz, Billings and then guns n rookies….. what could go wrong?

Lekdog

So many things, I love it

Russty_

Birchall, Adams, Setterfield, Brodie Smith, Josh Kennedy, Joe Daniher..Williams, Blakely……wahooooo, Everything should work out as planned, no problemo!

Rakesh Mohan

IMO, If you think these 4 names will play 20 plus games … then you are optimist. If you think that these guys will play 15-18 games with avg of 90-100 then you are rationale. There is better value elsewhere for Roberton and Kreuz. The others 2 are good choices. Having said that, Roberton is expected to stay busy.

Eric_the_Red

What are everyone's thoughts on rucks this year? Anyone considering an R2 that isn't Gawn?

Krups

Thinking Goldy or Kruzer

Eric_the_Red

Me too. Am nervous about both though.

Dovaas

Grundy has to be R1 one but from then onwards look at prior rucks who have had better years in the past but did not last year. Kruezer, Jacobs or Goldstein for that matter, McEvoy I'm not sure on buy solid R1 with Potential R2 may be the way to go this year. Nankervis and Abbott might be in for a great year.

Of course what are the options you are looking at else where?, to balance team structure

Mumford is on my rnd 3 possible downgrade

dovers

Phil

If 2 rookie rucks are named Round 1, I'll pick both @R2 & R3.
If 1 rookie ruck is named Round 1, I'll pick him @R3 with Mumford @R2
If 0 rookie rucks are named I'll likely fork out the coin for Gawn.

Basically, I don't wanna fork out that much cash upfront for Gawn & Grundy even though I think they're clearly the best 2.
I also don't want any mid priced ruck (barring Mumford)

fatboyfat7

Grundy and Goldy for me. No messing around with the rucks. Should hopefully increase his output with Pruess moving on.

I'll have Sweet at R3.

It's easy to see a lot of people getting burned in the rucks this year.

Steeeve

Did Preuss even play a game last year?

Lazza

Mumford has a hammy and he is also suspended for the first few games…a new plan required Phil.

TRIGGA_HAPPY

Im looking at longer.
Sole ruck.
Should be good for 75 plus

Allows me to go a mid pricer fwd or back to another premo.

Purely as a stepper to a fallen premo ruck down the track.

Or ill start goldy with one less mid

Lekdog

Lewis Pearce might get a crack? Even if he doesn't I don't think longer will give you enough but yolo

Russty_

Couldn't be any less mediocre than our last rucks, Hickey, Longer,…..I forget, Ben McEvoy was our only decent Ruck for a long time, and we traded him away, because we're stupid, by we, I mean the Saints..stupid wooden spooners.
Losers of close Grand Finals, bad kicks in general.

Derek

I don’t mind Longer for his price, use cash elsewhere and get Gawn cheaper

Lekdog

Gawn Kreuz

Dovaas

Yeah, Kruezer at present. This could change and what rnd 1 teams are

Liam

Kruezer has averaged over 100 once in his career and not reliable to stay on the park.

Don’t see the hype.

Russty_

There's no hype, there's only those giving him a go, and those that aren't.
2 Months to go so JLT will reveal a lot, if he looks bad in that plenty will jump off.
No one's reliable these days.

Lekdog

I think it's cost saving and he was top scorer 2 years ago…understand the hesitance though

Liam

Just don’t see him reaching those levels again.

Seems like an outlier to me.

guest

It was a very very low top average score compared to other years though

Dovaas

Choices are not about hype at times… its about trying to fit together a team you are pleased with across the board even if one area is not your strong point

TommyC99

Goldy for me

Blaknight

At this moment I have Martin and Goldy with Sweet as my R3. If I go either Grundy or Gawn it will be Grundy for Goldy but I doubt i'll go that way.

Bomber56

no love for Nic Nak?

guest

considering he is out till at least round 15, i wouldn't…

callum

Grundy R1 and going for sinclair R2

paul

I feel if you don't go Grundy/Gawn you will be left behind as they are way ahead of the rest. Just have to plan around round 13

Dan

Going one of Grundy or Gawn to pair with Goldy.

Dan

Or been thinking of going Gawn/Westhoff and flicking Westhoff fwd when Grundy drops.

Ash

Looking fwd to it gang, will something like old Ockers SC spreadsheet be available this year?

Lekdog

If the great man creates one but I've not heard from him. We have Chicko's famous trade planner to go up soon this week though!

Roger

I wouldn't mind an ffgenie too

Colin

not until about round 20 Ash. Maybe not even then!

John Smith

Laird, Whitfield, williams, logue, duursma, hore, wilkie, wigg
cripps, oliver, neale, treloar, dusty, setterfield, stocker, bewley, constable, valente, hind
Gawn, nank, sweet
danger, heeney, dunkley, wingard, stoddart, cavarra, corbett, mcadam
thanks for the advice guys really appreciate this community

Russty_

Hello John Smith, nice solid team there mate…nailed most of the rookies, how much moola left over?…JLT will change things but NOICE JOB PILGRIM.

John Smith

ive got 23k left, thanks for the support russty

Kev64

LOL @ "Nailed most of the rookies". Are you trying to chat Smithy up or do you still get excited by seeing your comments on the internet?

Godd_Toldstein

With you on that one Kev, don't know how anyone can say rookies have been nailed before a single jtl game has been played

derek

Dunkley vs McLean Vs neither will create plenty of discussion this pre-season. I'm in the neither camp. Just seems the midfield at the doggies is a crowded place. Dunkley went in there after McLean hurt his shoulder last year, does he stay?

Lekdog

Currently on the neither train but could be easily swayed

Dan

Neither

TommyC99

Hey guys, first of many drafts before round 1. Obviously rookies are just placeholders and this is just a rough draft that hasnt factored in byes yet. Original thoughts? Fwd looks like with 3 rookies and unsure about Merrett and Neale. 146k in the bank

Def: Laird, Witherden, Williams, Rozee, Collins, Scrimshaw (Hore, Wigg)

Mid: Cripps, Fyfe, Neale, Dusty, Merrett, Miles, Hately, Setterfield (Hind, Constable, Bewley)

Ruc: Grundy, Goldy (Fort)

Fwd: Danger, Smith, Heeney, Corbett, Mozzie, Cavarra, (Burgess, Schlensog)

Dan

Possibly a bit light on def. Maybe up witherden or Williams to a Sicily or Whitfield for a few more of those big tons.

derek

i really like the Dangerfield pick

Rob

Where are are the good rookies this year what positions to out on field?.. last year there was some.gun defenders etc

Russty_

Good rookies on every line this year….yeah there were for sure 🙂

markbruty

Who are the "must have" rookies this year?

Realist

The ones that get a game in round 1 and play at least 5-consecutive games. Don't be fooled by the January keyboard experts Mark nobody knows who they are at this stage

markbruty

Yeah that's a very good point. I just wondered if there were some who looked more likely and were drafted with a role in mind, rather than just guessing for now!!!

Realist

Maybe you could research a few rooks that you see in a lot of teams to see if they're likely to play then watch JLT and wait for round 1 🙂
When the Hawks sup-list Gibbo lock him in at 102k he'll be the bargain of the season possible equal of TKelly last year.
I know Gibbo is training with Carlton but Silvagni is the dumbest list manager in AFL and Hawks will swoop in while SOS is still negotiating with Gibbo to change his surname

Russty_

Rate my Team…
10 = very good

5 = pretty decent job

0 = Very bad job and I hate your guts you bastard.

-5 = this is reserved for those who hate me just for being me…lol, you are all entitled to your opinions, no exceptions 🙂

-10 = If you could discover my real identity and address, you would hunt me down and kill me horribly..fair enough :)…!

Rate my Team.

Laird, Blakely, Witherden, Williams, Logue, Scrimshaw–Hore, Wigg
Cripps, Oliver, Fyfe, Martin, Taranto, Miles, Setterfield, Constable—Bewley, Woodcock, Hind
Grundy, Kreuzer—Sweet
Danger, Smith, Wingard, Rankine, Mcadam, Corbett—Parker, Cavarra
Remaining salary $59900, proj rd 1 score 1817.
If Miles looks spudly during the JLT and Walsh looks good, I could swap them and make some sweet bank, and whack another midfield premo in there, strengthening my overall intestinal fortitudes.

Lazza

For first up a score of 4 from me Russty …. 2 bets (suggestv1) and 2 non-starters in DEF.
MIDs ok except I’d be waiting on Oliver until he has proven he has healed.. also he has had a restricted pre-season.
RUC… one who will not last the season..
FWDs ok..

Lazza

Typo, should be 5.. mobile keyboard is very small for my stubby finger

TRIGGA_HAPPY

Geez we couldnt be more different rust.

Same players;
Cripps, grundy, danger, miles and some rooks.
Reckon Wilkie may surprise a few and play early.

Too early to rate 🙈

Dovaas

With you on Wilkie. Saints may have a couple relevant rookies this yr

BrownlowBoy

Timmy Tarantooooo

TommyC99

Nice start russty, probably a 6 for me.
There’s plenty of value in def, and I can see you’re making use of that, but at the same time, you’d think Lloyd Sicily, Whitfield and possibly Hurn and simmo will be in the top 6-7 defenders to fit into you’re last 2 defence spots, so I guess I could possibly see you having to sideways trade down the line. But in saying that, you probably need a POD on each line and you have that in Blakely.
Taranto is an interesting one. He’s on my watchlist if I decide to only go 4 premos deep in the guts.

Toby

You've got a few too many obvious non-starters. I doubt that you'll get 22 onfield for round 1 with that squad.
Nice try though.

Godd_Toldstein

Pretty weak tbh. Toranto and miles at 5/6 looks yuck. And your backup plan of brining Walsh in doesn't make sense. It's been proven over and over that expensive rookies is not a smart play

Grodie_Brundy

-10

Matt

Too many speculative picks for mine. Blakely at D2 with Witherden and Williams behind him is yuck.

Lekdog

I'll give you a 3, don't mind some of the speculatives but I reckon you'll need to hone those in

GloryDays94

5 at this stage mate.
I have a similar Def approach as you
Not sure about big Kruez… to injury prone but if he stays fit can score well
Personally im not sold on Wingard either.. he isnt a very tough player and will go missing when someone is on him

Finnius

Good start rusty – I don’t like the dusty pick though. I can’t see him being a top 10 player again. Remember how frustrated we were last year? What’s changed since then? It’s a bit hopeful imo and he won’t be much of a POD either. I like Taranto as well, but a few of the other speculatives (Blakey and Lreuz especially) are a lot of risk to start with.

Pleasureandpayne

The thing i would say that has changed is they have gotten lynch to play full forward instead of dusty.

DOVAAS

Mate, there are things here and there to changed but your on the right track. Drop like other push you down. Having $59900 isa little much to have in salary cap so i would update a Setterfield to FWD (over Rankine) and find someone for mid loss. , but your getting there and don't let negative responses break you down.

DEF looks good FWD Rankine, and Macadam I'm not sure of, Corbett very good keep as well Cavarra

Russty_

Thanks DOVASS, nothing personal taken about any comments mate, everyone's entitled to their point of view and that was my first draft so no bad anywhere, I remember years past, been playing since 2007…where I wished I'd not chosen the expensive rookie and just gone for a 110k one…think that still applies really, it's very very rare when an expensive rookie actually provides enough points and or money to make them worth the choice…sometimes they start out ok, probably due to adrenaline, and then end up averaging 50..and stalling on price before they've made us any decent coin.
If I'm wrong and Walsh is a point making cash-cow this year I'll apologise to the community but I don't think it happens very often.
Probably not a good idea to post a team early cause it could give a bad impression to the community about your knowledge / skills etc…my team is nothing like that first draft now, and will be nothing like this team in a few months lol, all a bit of fun!

Rakesh Mohan

8. Very good base with open mind.

NoLanguage

I don't rate Wingard or the Dusty pick but it's too early to tell. Not that bad mate

Whitey

Anyone else having problems with the app? The players name aren't on the lists.

TommyC99

Happened to me, refresh the app a few times and it works

BenO

Def: Laird Whitfield Williams Roberton Williamson Scrimshaw (BZT, Wigg)
Mid: Cripps Oliver Kelly Neale Zmerrett Walsh Mosquito R.West ( Drew,RCD, Brownless)
Rucks: Gawn Goldy (Clarke)
Fwd: Danger Heeney Wingard Setterfield McAdam Larkey (Sproule Moore)

Rookies are early day fillers, have also been considering Witherden as a 4th Def lock – drop Walsh to 100k rook, Roberton up.

Lazza

Your 3 DEF premos are all playing R14 bye. Might want to swap one for Sicily or Lloyd or Crisp.

markbruty

Man – I hadn't even factored that into my initial team. Thanks!

Realist

It doesn't matter Mark Round 14 is a long way away from round 1 and you can trade in new premo defenders at any stage

markbruty

Yeah but I just think if you don't get the starting team right – you're cooked….. Trying to at least start with 3-4 keepers on every line. And maybe set & forget ruck.

Realist

If you are worried about 3 players on one line having the bye on the same week you'll have a stroke before the byes.
It doesn't matter if you have 6 on the same line with the same bye as long as you have 18+ on field.

Rivo

So damn happy SC AFL is back.

My starting teams a mix of SC royalty and rooks. Big cash in the rucks – decided to avoid the Mummy risk. A couple of selection headaches –

Higgins & Walsh or Wingard & Foley/another rook?
Is old man Simpson still up to it?

Feedback on the team would be great…

D: Lloyd, Laird, Simpson, B.Smith, S.Collins,
Scrimshaw (Hore, Wigg);
M: Cripps, Fyfe, Dusty, Yeo, Miles, Walsh, Stocker, Bewley (Valente, Hill, Hind);
R: Grundy, Gawn (Forte)
F: Danger, D. Smith, Higgins, Rankine, Setterfield, Cavara (Mosquito, Wilkinson).

Rivo

Any feedback on starting team above community?

Lekdog

I'll be online tonight to go into detail with everyone's teams!

Rivo

Thx Lek. So many options my brain is already mush.

BrownlowBoy

Personally think you're one premo short in the mids.

Ben

4 gun mids plus a miles type is the go this year. We have never had stronger rucks and a stronger fwd (danger), and spending so large requires going short somewhere. Would recommend going more guns and rookies in the fwd pine mate

Ben

All those going goldy over gawn (/grundy) are wasting a trade. Rivo dont be swayed by conforminty – you have an excellent team and you should back it $$

fatboyfat7

100% agree Ben

Lekdog

Not a fan of expensive rookies and reckon you could downgrade one of your premo defenders and bring in another premo mid…other than that solid

Rivo

Cheers Lek. Think Walsh might be an exception this year. Will have a look at some optons.

markbruty

Man – I have ZERO idea heading into this season. Finger is well and truly off the pulse…. but here is my first crack at a side. Any feedback welcome.

DEF: Laird, Whitfield, Mills, Roberton, S.Collins, Hore (Wilkie, Wigg)
MID: Cripps, Oliver, Neale, Dunkley, Miles, Liberatore, Setterfield, Bewley (Constable, Valente, Hind)
RUC: Gawn, Goldy (Sweet)
FWD: Danger, D.Smith, Heeney, Greene, Blakey, McAdam (Corbett, Cavarra)

A little Sydney heavy but I think Mills will have some solid midfield time this year and Blakey because I think they find a Mills rookie year role for him straight up.

Not sold on guys like Roberton, Liberatore etc coming back from injury. HELP!

TommyC99

I think Dunkley should be selected in the Fwd line rather than the midfield. Also not sold on Mills, I had him last year and he’s just mediocre. Inconsistent without the ceiling required to warrant an inconsistent player. 4 scores below 80 and only 1 ton suggests you’d be banking on him breaking out, which he’s been threatening to do for a few years, but just maintained a 70s average. Needs to improve considerably to be a top 8 defender which is what you’d be picking him for at his price.
Libba didn’t even last 1 game last year so he’s a big risk, but we know he’s capable of scores if he stays on the park. Robbo is dirt cheap if he plays but that heart condition has me staying away for now

markbruty

Thanks for the discussion points and feedback. I knew it was a pretty risky team with Libba and Robbo so I will have to monitor closely. I WAS banking on Mills to take over some of the midfield time left by Hanners and figured the kid is so talented he'd be a 100 point guy….. I agree though, big risk. Might rethink.

Thoughts on Scrimshaw anyone? Worth a look? Do these new kick-in rules mean I should be keeping an eye on anyone in particular like Luke Ryan etc?

Realist

Ryan isn't likely to benefit from the new kick-in rule, he played on less than 1% of the time that he kicked in last year about the least in the competition (an extra 4 points for the entire season under new rules)
The players that had more than 100 kick-ins with 40%+ playing on are Simpson (50%) Hurn (41.7%) Witherden (41.3%) The next best is Lloyd with 28% nobody else passed 20%
I suggest that you start at least 1 of Hurn, Witherden or Simpson

markbruty

This is why I love this community! Simpson is the obvious choice without Docherty again….. Witherden is an interesting choice though! And Hurn is always solid.

ham

Won't it be easier for everyone to play on from a kick in this year? Whoever takes the kick just has to step outside the goal square (with 10 metres between them and the mark) and hit a target or go long to score points. If Luke Ryan continues to take most of the kick ins at Freo and he has the most room for improvement in terms of percentage increase in number of play-ons, then you could say he is more likely to benefit from the rule change than those who were already playing on at a higher percentage in previous years. The uncertainty is how the scoring will be judged by champion data and whether they adjust if it becomes heavily skewed in favour of defenders taking kick ins.

BadgerHoney7

Hey guys, good to see a few more guys rolling in after the launch, thoughts on my team below: A or B and how you rate it on a 1-10 scale. Rookies subject to change.

A:
DEF – Lloyd, Sicily, Whitfield, Birchall, Collins, Duursma (Hore, Wigg)
MID – Cripps, Oliver, Fyfe, Neale, Kelly, Miles, Bennell, Constable (Bewley, Woodcock, Hind)
RUCK – Kreuzer, Goldstein (Bines)
FWD – Danger, Dunkley, Wingard, Cockatoo, Setterfield, McAdam (Cavarra, Wilkinson)

B:
DEF – Sicily, Whitfield, Williams, Birchall, Collins, Duursma (Hore, Wigg)
MID – Cripps, Fyfe, Neale, Kelly, Beams, Miles, Bennell, Constable (Bewley, Woodcock, Hind)
RUCK – Grundy, Goldstein (Bines)
FWD – Danger, Dunkley, Wingard, Cockatoo, Setterfield, McAdam (Cavarra, Wilkinson)

The difference basically is A: Lloyd, Oliver, Kreuzer and B: Grundy, Williams, Beams, who is going to provide a bigger average between the 3.

Or then C:
DEF – Lloyd, Sicily, Whitfield, Birchall, Collins, Duursma (Hore, Wigg)
MID – Cripps, Oliver, Fyfe, Neale, Kelly, Stocker, Bennell, Constable (Bewley, Woodcock, Hind)
RUCK – Gryndy, Goldstein (Bines)
FWD – Danger, Dunkley, Wingard, Setterfield, McAdam, Schultz (Cavarra, Wilkinson)

markbruty

You're a braver man than I am selecting Bennell! I have thought about Wingard too, but it's tough to pull that trigger until I see how he is used.

Rick

Bennell there's a trade gone already. Birchall and Kruz fragile too. So definitely not A

BadgerHoney7

Yeah it’s either B or C.

Realist

Hahahahahahahahahahaha

Godd_Toldstein

Scrap them all

BadgerHoney7

Alright flog.

Godd_Toldstein

Honest opinion bud, they all look weak. Or I can tell you what you want to hear and tell you all 3 are fantastic?

BadgerHoney7

i'm all for constructive criticism but you didn't give me any of that, you've just tried to show me that you have a pole to far up yours. Neither 3 of them are "weak" if we're going by the fact is GnR system everyone knows and rates. Show us your team Godd

Godd_Toldstein

You'll see it round one mate

Lekdog

Birchall had a preseason injury so he's off my list.

C is the one for me

BadgerHoney7

Hey Lek, yeah heard about Birch's injury but word is could still be back JLT or Round 1 so still keeping hope

Dovaas

C looks to be better for me. Bennell is up in the air but no different to rookies who we don't know are playing generally til end 1 teams of just before.

I wouldn't be so pro Birchall yet, he is a better pick than Rozee, Logue and Cumming and Goddard if he is playing he should find 80-85. I am myself pro Grundy to lock up one of the rucks straight away, then one that is under such as Kruezer or Jacobs and Mumford might be a revelation from rnd 3.

N Cockatoo might get 75 but has never gone over 11 games in his for years with 63 the highest ave. There is a lot of if's on your Bennell. Cockatoo and Birchall positions until the same time as rookies such as rnd 1 day or days. Corbett likely has same doubt as Cockatoo but gives you 65k and B Mckay and More in Def a chance with Wagner in Mid with Sam Walsh while more is likely to play rnd 1. Your right with Wingard, he should more into Mid now Mitchell gone. Williams and Brodie Smith are a couple return players with good potential with Milera DEF, Parish FWD and McCluggage MID who look good for natural improvement at +10 or more, cheers

Max

Had a tinker before the official launch on an Excel spreadsheet courtesy of some splendid kent over at SC Talk, and have settled on this team. Happy to receive feedback.

DEF: Whitfield, Witherden, Williams, Roberton, Clark, Hore (McLennan, Wigg)

MID: Cripps, Fyfe, Neale, Crouch, Zerrett, Libba, B Smith, Constable (Bewley, Valente, Hind)

RUC: Grundy, Goldy (Sweet)

FWD: Danger, Heeney, Wingard, Greene, Setterfield, Burgess (Cavarra, Parker)

markbruty

Powerful midfield. Risky defence with Williams and Roberton but I see the allure there!

I'm all for Goldy in the ruck. Daw won't be back for a while and Preuss has moved on. Should do good numbers.

Max

Cheers mate. Yeah, defence definitely the weakest link, but can't resist either of Williams and Robbo at the moment. Maybe I'll become more sane as R1 gets nearer.

markbruty

I had both in there to start with but I feel I am risking enough with Robbo, Libba, Greene etc!!! I can be swayed though so looking forward to seeing things progress as Round 1 nears…..

Realist

Slightly dodgy midfield
Merrett peaked in 2016 (from a SC perspective) and has gone backwards each year since, the development of McGrath will take more mid time and points off him 540k is too much for a bloke who will struggle to ave 100, Libba is an injury waiting to happen, Constable has already been mentioned as a potential non-starter for round 1 by the cats.
Forwards look good if Toby and Chad don't get the sulks

Ben

Nobody would blame you for taking a chance on libba not being injured. I see his form as being the issue. Miles is the best option given inside mid time, but id also (ready for backlash) back hanners over libba. Even a goat given prime position in the mids can score 90+.

Ben

Obviously watch team selection, but if hanners is named in the guts he is worth backing

Lekdog

For the record I think Merrett can only improve with Shiel in the side but I'll need to see him in the preseason…

PizzaSafety

Merrett only dropped off in 2017 (and only by 2.3 points) because he copped tags and didn't in 2016. He was on track to do better by 3 points for the year until the tags came his way towards the end of the season. He struggled at the start of this year following his concussion due to tags and then as he started getting used to tags and started beating them he came good. He averaged that same 110 in the last 14 games that he had done for the two seasons prior. Now he won't be getting the tag most weeks with Shiel in the side. McGrath isn't taking points off Merrett, he might take points off Myers, Zaka and D Smith if he improves, but not Merrett.

The concern now with Merrett is if the two weeks in the moon boot and the possible delayed return to training after reduces his fitness and slows down his start to the year. If not for the injury he is clearly the most likely of all midfielders price around 100 to get to a 110 average.

Godd_Toldstein

He's still copping the tag with sheil in the side

Will

Shiel got tagged over Kelly, Ward and Cogs in 2017 and over Ward and cogs in 2018, think he’s still gonna get tagged because sides don’t like conceding clearances l

Lekdog

I love the cheap defence but can't get onboard for Libba

sc tragic

I agree with your ruck selection, same as mine Libba however is a No No for me, looks OK in defence forwards with exception of Wingard until seen in JLT. Overall good team.

Rick

Stefan Martin Or Goldstein for R2? Both at a similar price and both averaged pretty much the same in terms of points in 2018 in the back half of the season. Stefan martin's ceiling is higher with the potential to go 140+ but Goldy looks like he might be more consistent all around. Thoughts?

Ralph

I've got Stef atm but if I need more cash will go with Goldy. Depends on preseason fitness as well as who they both play early to see who will get more points (havent looked at the fixtures yet).

Lekdog

I prefer Martin in general but Goldy showed signs of improvement again last year

Jarryd

First draft, no bye planning yet, just want some feedback:

DEF – Lloyd Laird, Whitfield, Collins, Scrimshaw, Wilkie (Hore, Wigg)

MID – Cripps, Oliver, Neale, Treloar, Zerrett, D. Clarke, Setterfield, Bewley (Scott, Hind, West)

RUCK – Grundy, Westhoff (Draper)

FWD – Dangerfield, Menengola, Heeney, Rankine, Parker, Cavarra (Woodcock, Bines)

Lekdog

Love the Menegola pick

Skindog

How do I get my team picker side back??

Lekdog

Try and remember it 🙁

dontblushbaby

Got burnt last year with this , took a photo last night

Skindog

Cheers boys

Richard

Gday community! What a season we have in store. So many different options on so many different lines. Id love some feedback on the first version of my team community, obviously rookies aren't set in stone and are dependant on round 1 ( I copied most of them from this thread since I don't know much about whose a lock for round 1)
DEF: Laird, Sicily, Crisp, Williams, Scrimshaw, Hore/// Wilkie, Wigg
MID: Cripps, Martin, Merrett, Zorko, Taranto, Constable, Bewley, Woodock/// Valente, Scott, Hind
RUCK: Grundy, Goldstein// Shlensog
FWD: Danger, Heeney, Gray, Greene, Setterfield, Mcadam//Corbet, Cavana

Williams and Greene both coming off of injuries and are capable of scoring highly, if they don't turn out to be keepers at worst they'll be stepping stones. Zorko burned me last year, however the thing he struggles with most was the tag. With Neale in the team now I can definitely see Zorko getting more free around the ground and getting back to a 110+ average. Im hoping Taranto can have a breakout year with Shiel gone, he was huge for me last year and I'm hoping he can keep on improving ( Arguably my biggest risk in the team because of the awkward price tag). I was originally going to put Dunkley instead of Grad, however I made the same mistake in starting Billings last year after seeing that he finished 2017 strongly, Im not making that same mistake again and if required, will do a sideways trade from Gray to Dunkley.
Cheers community, rip into this team as best as you all see fit!

markbruty

A couple of guys there who are on my watchlist…. Interested in Scrimshaw too. Would love the Grundy / Goldy combo, but it's likely I go Gawn / Goldy and try beef up the guts.

Lekdog

I'm gonna run Taranto through the "Next Beast Algorithm" because I too think he'll be a decent breakout option.

I'd rather Neale over Zorko tbh, still think he gets tagged.

Speak to me about Crisp?

Richard

Crisp is someone that I started with last year and really liked to have in my team as a POD. He could have a purple patch in a quarter where he would string together 6 possessions and all of a sudden he was on 27 points at quarter time with 10 minutes to go. However since doing a bit more research on defenders, I definitely think that either Hurn or Witherden would be better options this year, maybe even howe. Jake Lloyd is also someone I started with last year but is far too expensive for me to consider as a defender. Hurn took 151 kickouts last year and played on 47% of the time https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-01-17/champion-d…. Especially with the new 6-6-6 rule in place, a lot more behinds are going to be kicked and Hurn is going to be playing on a lot more due to the new 10 meter rule swell as taking more kicks. Alex withered also kicks in to himself 41 percent of the time and is likely to see an increase in scoring purely from that, couple that in with the potential for him to improve as an all around defender and you have a potential 95+ player.

Steeeve

Just wanna comment now to say I'm going with GnR this year and no stupid mid-pricers.
Please can all remind me in a couple of months when my team is mostly spuds worth $350k.

Dice_real

I'll remind you if you remind me!

markbruty

Ahhhh yes – this is always my plan and every year it goes awry!

derek

agreed. as long as you don't let me put Mills in my team

Bombers56

That's my plan to, but 58 days is a long time 🙂

Dice_real

My team. Feel free to share your thoughts or have a crack.

B: R Laird K Simpson J Crisp Z Williams S Collins C Wilkie – J Koschitzke H Wigg
M: J Macrae N Fyfe J Kelly M Crouch Z Merrett S Walsh B Bewley T Atkins – L Stocker N Hind W Hayes
R: B Grundy D Cameron – J Sweet
F: P Dangerfield I Heeney J Dunkley T Greene W Setterfield B Cavarra – C Burgess M Parker

50K left

SC_Kev7

Nice structure, Dice. The ruck situation at the Swans is one to watch over the preseason

DavidC

Naismith is a chance but can't see Cameron getting a gig.

markbruty

What are people thinking about Fyfe / Dusty and others who should no longer have to spend time forward with the recent off-season inclusions?

How do we think Wingard fits with Mitchell out?

BrownlowBoy

Fyfe should play more mid time, especially without Neale. He's even more likely to be tagged now, can he be tagged? I think Jacobs did a job on him, but not many can stop him. Dusty likewise should not play forward as often. He's cheaper than last year, but can he get back to his Brownlow form? I'm not too sure on that, but there is certainly worse options. Richmond often share the SC points around though, keep that in mind.

Wingard hopefully gets a lot of midfield time with Mitchell out, and he is a very good option in my opinion.

markbruty

Yeah I am really keen on trying to get Wingard in there… Dusty and Fyfe are certainly worth a look but I also am thinking Neale, Kelly etc.So tough right now….

derek

Not sure about Wingard. the hawks would have recruited him to play Cyril's forward pressure role.

now Mitchell has gone, he will get more midfield, but can't see it being as much as people think

Steeeve

Dusty is a massive no for me. Last year he played like he was happy with 2017, rarely got out of third gear. Give me someone young and hungry for a Brownlow like Clarry Oliver, Cripps or Josh Kelly.

gator59

Third gear hey.. More like reverse

Lekdog

Fyfe is Life as long as his off season injuries etc. don't get in the way

derek

Fyfe is now an injury risk player

Mike

Shannon hurn thoughts?

BrownlowBoy

Better options around.

Realist

With the new kickin rule/points for playing on he's a top 10 def. if the admin didn't keep deleting my posts you would have had access to all the relevant data

Lekdog

Not admin, once a comment reaches a certain amount of dislikes it is deleted automatically.

Rakesh Mohan

i shall have him in final team. Will get most of the kick ins and is a good precision kick.

BoltonsBlues

Supercoach opens – footy season closer to starting 😀

Laird, Blakely, Witherden, Newman, Burgess, McLennan (Hore, Wigg)
Macrae, Cripps, Fyfe, JKell, Dusty, Walsh, Stocker, Bewley (Valente, Hind, Foley)
Grundy, Martin (Fort)
Danger, DevSmith, Wingard, Setterfield, Stengle, Corbett (Parker, Cavarra)

hedski

Gday fellas, thought I'd throw a league out there, anyone welcome, 998045 <img draggable="false" class="emoji" alt="👍" src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/11/svg/1f44d.svg"&gt;.
I've knocked up a new side, GnR with a few exceptions, have at it.

The Martini Police -V2.

Lloyd, Whitfield, Williams (Hore)
Collins, Scrimshaw, Wilkie (Wigg)

Macrae, Cripps, Fyfe (Constable)
Dusty, Zerrett, Miles (Hind)
Bewley, Stocker (Atkins)

Grundy, Goldy (Fort)

Danger, Smith, Dunkley (Corbett)
Blakey, Setterfield, Parker (Cavarra)

Early days, rookies, blah blah.
Cheers.

Dice_real

Solid team hedski.
I've joined ya league too.
Looks like you've been doing your homework on the rookies, i reckon atkins will go alright if given a go.
Surely Geelong can't play him and constable….maybe they can!
Got a feeling Sydney might give Cameron a go in the ruck, good stats in neafl toward back half of year getting plenty of ball
Any coin leftover?

hedski

Cheers Dice, time will tell how many of the newbs the cats can play at once, I reckon Atkins gets a gig.
Not much cashola left over in that team, lots of fiddling to do yet.
Look fwd to playing against ya, what team were you?

Dice_real

Pauline Pantdown, had a shocking year last year

hedski

Yeah same got smashed by injuries.
I'm in a few of the bbl leagues with you, my team is Smack Balls, bastard of a game.

Dice_real

Yep was over it a couple of rounds back, keep missing the rounds to trade

The Ranger

I'm in Hedski.
First day of SC and I've made 42 trades so far, it's going really well.

hedski

On ya Ranger, we'll go at it again 👍

dontblushbaby

I'm in Hedski if thats Ok ?

hedski

All welcome DBB.

Bombers56

Count me in. Going to be a good year!

TommyC99

Like the Merrett pick. Shiel should free him up a bit this year so he’s in my side atm.

Godd_Toldstein

Hasn't merrett already injured himself this pre? Usually takes blokes a while to get going after that.

Tommy

Any cash leagues open? Willing to go up to 50$ in entry. Cheers community/

Steeeve

Okay so…
Back: L Whitfield, C Blakely, Z Williams, S Collins, Rookie, Rookie (bench: Rookies)
Mids: C Oliver, J Kelly, L Neale, Z Merrett, D Beams, Rookie, Rookie, Rookie (bench: Rookies)
Ruck: B Grundy, M Gawn (Z Clarke)
Fwds: P Dangerfield, I Heeney, J Dunkley, C Wingard, Rookie, Rookie (bench: Rookies)

What do ya reckon?

Dovaas

Very much a guns and rookies team, going a player long in fwd is good idea as def has better rookies and more mid, mid/prem options to up or side trade too. I was considering Clarke as ruc bench but am waiting til after JLT and team sheets. He may even be a ruc2 if named.

Solid team with no surprises and it doesn’t have to. Get your rookies right and trade to full on field team no rookies at end of bye rounds and you will do well. BUT… get the rookies right, can’t trade up if not making money on them

Michael

Def
Laird,Whitfield,Hurn,Williams,Scrimshaw,Wigg (Hore,Brown)
Mid
Cripps,Fyfe,Yeo,Zorko,Viney,Walsh,Hind,Foley (Woodcock,Watson,Wicks)
Ruck
Gawn,Martin (Sweet)
Fwd
Dangerfield,Smith,Walters,Greene,Corbett,Cavarra (McAdam, Parker)

SC_Kev7

Like the Hurn pick, Michael. Been flirting with it myself. Has a monopoly on kick outs so he should get a slight bump. Should be a POD at his price but can he crack the three figure average 🤔

Michael

Fingers crossed ahahah

SecretSam

Very happy with my first draft and doubt that I'll need to change it
Def-Def-Def-Def-Mid/def-Rook-Rook-Rook
Mid-Mid-Mid-Mid-Mid-Mid/fwd-Mid/def-rook-rook-rook
Ruc-Ruc-Rook
Fwd-Fwd-Fwd/mid-Fwd/Mid-Rook-Rook-rook-rook

Lekdog

Niiiiice

Shake_n_bake

Hi all

hedski

Gday Shaker, jump in my league above mate.

Shake_n_bake

Definitely ill get on tonight Hedski hope ur well.

hedski

Doin good mate, same to you.

Sage

20-years old fools-gold Jack Scrimshaw was pick#7 in 2016 draft but could only manage 4 games in 2017 with a SC high score 64 and an ave of only 44 and he finished the season with a pitiful 17 against Brisbane.
He couldn't get a game in 2018 at suns even though the suns were desperate for a bit of height in the backline. I can't see him playing any games early unless a plane crashes into training at Waverly.

markbruty

From all reports, he really struggled mentally in Queensland and to adjust to the Suns organisation. Certainly there were some physical issues as well, but now he is at Hawthorn, I'd expect that he has hit his straps and the talent will show through. Hawks can use him and while I don't expect miracles, I'd suggest he's a handy lock to play early games, make $150K and be moved on

Sage

Thanks for extra info Mark but, from memory I don't think a single player has left the suns and improved their SC output, including Gaz. The Hawks have some very good players on their list that deserve a go before Scrimshaw, I doubt that the Hawks will play him without giving him a run in the VFL first but time will tell I suppose.
At least he's at a slightly elevated price so it wont be a drama switching him for another if he isn't named

steve

Gday community, another year of supercoach is here

First Draft at a team for this year, welcoming all feedback on the team

DEF: Laird, Whitfield, Witherden, Newman, Logue, Duursma (Mclennan, Hore)

MID: Cripps, Fyfe, Kelly, Neale, Dusty, Sam Walsh, Hind, Bytel (Constable, Scott, Valente)

RUCK: Gawn, Goldy (Bines)

FWD: Danger, Dunkley, Wingard, Setterfield, McAdam, Curtis Taylor (Corbett, Hill)

Just the 8k in the bank community

Godd_Toldstein

Should get a group code going boys

Lekdog

710443

skindog

Tried to join, says not found???

skindog

My post wasnt allowed??

Sage

Breakout contender Charlie Curnow
6-games in 1st year SC Ave49
21 games 2nd year SC ave 74 with 4 x 100+
20 games 2018 SC ave 77 with 5 x 100+
2018 ruined from a SC perspective by 3 scores below 40 after the byes although 1 of them (28 v Crows) was injury affected.He was averaging 87 before the bye including a 59 V. Cats
In 2019 Charlie is fitter and stronger plus Carlton have another tall fwd to play alongside Charlie and McKay, this could see the 195cm Curnow move into the midfield regularly
420k for an early season bolter who aved 91 after the first 6-weeks in 2018 and who will have more midtime minutes in 2019 is pretty low risk points scoring and cash generation stepping stone..
If you start him plan to offload after round 6, unless he goes nuts and is averaging 100+

Kevan63

Lek put you up to this, didn't he.

Lekdog

Shhhh

BrownlowBoy

A lot got burnt last year so a lot will be scared to ride the rollarcoaster again

Dan

DEF:
R. Laird, L. Whitfield, Z. Williams, S. Collins, I. Quaynor, J. Scrimshaw, (X. Duursma H. Wigg)

MIDFIELDERS:
P. Cripps, N. Fyfe, J. Kelly, D. Martin, M. Crouch, J. Worpel, A. Miles, L. Stocker, (C. Constable, C. Wagner, B. Bewley)

RUCKS:
M. Gawn, B. Longer, (Z. Clarke)

FORWARDS:
P. Dangerfield, C. Wingard, T. Greene, D. Moore, I. Rankine, W. Setterfield, (N. Cockatoo, B. Cavarra)

Please pick holes and challenge my thinking…

Dovaas

I get the longer RUC choice and that might pay dividends but membrey might pinch hit in ruc for the saints. Wingard is becoming popular now Mitchell out for year or most of it. Don’t know about Greene as he not doing contact drills or sprint work yet.

DEF is common at the moment guns and rookies setup with Quaynor pushing for rnd 1 and impressing Collingwood already. Scrimshaw sounds far from a rnd 1 birth. FWD carries much risk with Greene and Moore and although Moore doing much of training he hasn’t averaged big figures in the past.

Don’t put N Cockatoo on the bench at his price. Either choose one of him and Moore or Rankine. With Zac Clarke that over 300k on bench for those two. A strong MID will bring early points but mid is the part if the ground that has many tradable options at all price points. Where as fwd and def can leave you stuck with under performing players for extended periods. This yr fwd looks like many mid options but most risky. I would drop Worpel for a stronger F2…4 with cockatoo on field or gone

SC_Kev7

Awesome analysis, Dovaas.

Rookies will show themselves eventually, Dan. Some of your mid price calls will need to be culled. You won’t nail them all!

derek

i notice that Dangerfield is in 104% of teams.

that seems about right.

BrownlowBoy

As BT would say…

"IT CAN'T BE!"

Grodie_Brundy

66%

Bombers56

It really should be 100% is anyone game to leave him out?

Sage

Any love for 201cm defender Ben McKay?
Had a pretty good year in VFL earning the plaudits of senior teammates and the Hoppers coaching staff for his intercept marking and work ethic.
With the trend of beanpole fwds and no Pruess or Majak to counter them Ben could cement a place in the senior squad in 2019
Keep him on your Radar through JLT

Kevan63

Thanks Sage, will add to the watch list.

Dovaas

Have him as defence bench. I see him playing good amount of games

Lekdog

Plus he's got a very talented brother

Phat Phuc

Hmm you must be looking at life through Navy coloured glasses. I thought that his greatest talent was getting stuff off the top shelf and changing lightglobes. I was unaware that he could actually play footy although, he is at Carlton and they're considering playing a cardboard cutout of Juddy in their foward line.
Somebody should design an emoji for 'tongue-in-cheek'

Bobby

I like it
Lloyd-Blakley-Witherden
Williams-McGrath-Collins
(McKay-Okunbor)

Macrae-Cripps-Fyffe-Bont
Sloane-Miles-Setterfield-Stocker
(Cuntstable-West-Vandermeer)

Grundy Kruezer (Strachan)

Danger-Fisher-Weedman
Rozee-Kreuger-Petruccelle
(B.Williams-Owies)

Onfield and bench rookies are placeholders until round 1 teams announced currently gives me great line flexibility
Fwd line seems light but Setterfield to be moved fwd if Cuntstable plays and I might dump Sloanedog for a rook to beef up the front.

Famous quotes from an alcoholic father "I haven't had a kunt all-day Drinkstable"

Bobby

I like it
Lloyd-Blakley-Witherden
Williams-McGrath-Collins
(McKay-Okunbor)

Macrae-Cripps-Fyffe-Bont
Sloane-Miles-Setterfield-Stocker
(Cuntstable-West-Vandermeer)

Grundy Kruezer (Strachan)

Danger-Fisher-Weedman
Rozee-Kreuger-Petruccelle
(B.Williams-Owies)

Onfield and bench rookies are placeholders until round 1 teams announced currently gives me great line flexibility
Fwd line seems light but Setterfield to be moved fwd if Cuntstable plays and I might dump Sloanedog for a rook to beef up the front.

Famous quote from an alko father "I have had a C#*t all day Drinkstable"

Dovaas

I have Milera as D4 as I think plus 8-10 points this yr. anyone big on him. Not seeing much love for him

ToughBretts

I'm a big Milera fan – just too many around the price I like better

Steeeve

He's good I just worry about Brodie Smith sharing his role. Thinking they both might impact Laird a little too. Plus Luke Brown takes their kick outs.

Kevan63

Def; Sicily, Whitfield, Blakely, Z Williams, Quaynor, Duursma, Hore, Wigg
Mid; Cripps, Fyfe, Neale, Coniglio, Yeo, Bennell, Caldwell, Stocker, Constable, Hind, Bewly
Ruck; Grundy, Longer, Bines
Fwd: Dangerfield, Heeney, Dunkley, Setterfield, Corbett, Woodcock, Parker(StK), Cavarra
250k to play with.
9/8/9 for the byes with Blakely and Z Williams classed as keepers.

SC_Kev7

Nice mix, Kev. Longer the obvious one to pick on. Not sure he’ll ever hit great heights. Who can you get with Longer + 250k?

Kevan63

Longer, the big dilemma. Doesn't have to do exceptionally well to generate 150K, just be the number one ruckman. JLT MAY show weher

Matt

Feel free to rate my teams ladies and gents 🙂
Just a quick first draft i whipped up in about 30 minutes, some of the rookies are just fillers

Def: Laird, Williams, B.Smith, Robertson, Quaynor, Scrimshaw (Naish, Wigg)

Mid: Cripps, Oliver, Fyfe, D.Martin, Shiel, LDU, Stocker, Constance (Hind, Valente, Smith)

Ruc: Grundy, Gawn (Schlensog)

Fwd: Dangerfield, Westhoff, Wingard, Greene, Blakey, Setterfield (cavarra, koschitzke)

BrownlowBoy

Hoff has an uncertain roll this year – be careful.

Shiel will be the first one tagged at Essendon.

Like the Brodie Smith POD!

Matt

Yeah those 2 are very dependent on what their JLT games looked like

derek

smith and robertson are huge injury issues

BrownlowBoy

Rip my team apart fellas.

Laird, Blakely, Witherden, Williams, Williamson, Hore, Wilkie, Wigg
Cripps, Oliver, Fyfe, Kelly, Yeo, Setterfield, Stocker, Bewley, Constable, Valente, Hind
Grundy, Nankervis, Sweet
Dangerfield, Smith, Wingard, Corbett, Moore, Cavarra, McAdam, Parker

91k to play with

Whitey

Can't bag it too much, Wingard is a small risk but can understand. I would personally change the Nank to Goldy or even Martin. Brisbane should improve this year.

BrownlowBoy

Yeah I have put some thought into the Chad, but he will be closely monitored in pre season. If he's starting in the middle, he's in my side. Mitchell leaves a huge hole at the Hawks, JOM and Shiels need help carrying the load.

I like Nank because he can get around the ground well and take marks etc. The new ruck rule will benefit his clearance numbers and he's got some handy mids underneath him.

Grodie_Brundy

Blakeley and withers at D2, D3 fair risks but goto take a risk somewhere right!

Smith I doubt will go bigger in avg. Otherwise pretty normal team. Yeo good pick.

BrownlowBoy

G'day mate,

I wouldn't say Witho is a risk.

He should gain extra points with the kickouts now and he's a beautiful kick of the sherrin.

Blakely is a no brainer, with more mid time and resting across half back, what's not to like apart from injury risk.

SC_Kev7

Good start, BB. Solid core of premo’s. I rode the Nank train last year and while he was serviceable, he didn’t really get me anywhere. What are your intentions with him?

BrownlowBoy

The intention is to get Gawn at some point, but when I'm not sure. I'd like to be certain of Preuss' role in the side. Hopefully for Gawn's supercoach scoring Preuss is playing for Casey.

Whitey

any opinions on which line (Fwds or def) would be better if I was only going to have 3 premo's. I'm thinking the fwds but I suppose it depends on where the rookies are.

SC_Kev7