IT’S FINALLY HAPPENING.

After two relatively injury-free finals, the Supercoach gods have cast us down with a wrath unlike which we’ve seen since the bye rounds.

There are a whole host of players missing, and for those of us who still have a trade or to, it’s time to pull the trigger. There is no holding back on this front. It’s do or die.

So, Patch and Lek enlist the help of Damo from out west, who Knows Things, to talk us through how to survive this week.

Also – we want to hear your best and worst starting selections for the season! Damo will be popping them into the final cheat sheet for the season, so lend him your ears good community!

Thanks as always to Fantasy Insider for quite literally keeping this site running, and thanks to YOU community, for still being here ex oh ex oh

Categories: Supercoach

81 Comments

Gary Swine · 15/08/2018 at 04:17

Struggling now Hogan done – last trade left for a 430k forward or defender
already have:
DEF R.Laird, J.Lloyd, K.Simpson, E.Yeo, M.Hurley, TMcDonald (lynch,duman)
FWD R.Gray, J.Westoff, I.Heeney, T.McLean, S.Menegola, J.Hogan (battle,smith)

    Scooter · 15/08/2018 at 21:12

    Robinson

    Lekdog · 15/08/2018 at 22:20

    Don't mind Robinson but having said that if I recommend him he'll burn ya

    pigjumpprusik · 16/08/2018 at 00:30

    Not much quality available unfortunately. Aliir, Robinson, Caleb Daniel, Lobb

Rivo · 15/08/2018 at 07:59

Best starting selection – Cripps.
Worst staring selection – Garlett

Ranked 1390, in 4 league prelims. 3 trades and $27k. Have Ahern and J.Higgins as mid/fwd bench cover.

Want Macrae but have to deal with Walters & Lambert outs. Four
Options…

1. Walters & Lambert to Menegola & Caddy
2. JPK & Walters to Macrae & Stephenson (Ahern cover for Lambert);
3. Walters & Lambert to McLean & Buddy?
4. Swing McDonald fwd, Walters to J. Walker (Bris), Lambert to De Goey?

Help please???

    Marcos · 15/08/2018 at 08:26

    Hmm that injury hurts you as none of these trades get me particularly excited. Maybe option 1…?

      Rivo · 15/08/2018 at 08:49

      Yes it does Marcos. Options are not great but I do have cover on all lines. Think Caddy might get more mid time with Lambert missing. Menegola seems to have found his mojo again.

    Redpill5 · 15/08/2018 at 08:48

    Walters may not be out, apparently a glute issue not a hammie. If you do trade…. Least risky is option 1, highest potential is option 3.

      Rivo · 15/08/2018 at 09:22

      Thanks Redpill. Would be great if Walters did play but not holding my breath.

    Chris · 15/08/2018 at 10:48

    Whispers that Walters may play this week. Hope so. Fingers crossed.

Marcos · 15/08/2018 at 08:30

Which option please:

Jimmy Webster (who has spudded up since I bought a premium price and held through injuries) > Brayshaw

Or

Martin > Macrae

Thanks!

    Rivo · 15/08/2018 at 09:23

    Option 1 – Dusty still capable of a big score leading into finals.

    Lekdog · 15/08/2018 at 22:20

    1

Redpill5 · 15/08/2018 at 09:01

Is there any way to see your trade history?

    Jay · 15/08/2018 at 09:29

    Yep, when viewing on a browser, go to the lobby or team page. Under “My team tracker” which should be above the fixtures on the right, you should find “History” under “More”
    Maybe

      Redpill5 · 15/08/2018 at 16:05

      Thanks jay. I will try that

        Redpill5 · 15/08/2018 at 17:46

        Jay, that doesn’t tell you the players you traded each week only the number of trades…

          Russty_ · 15/08/2018 at 17:59

          Hey Pill, under "more"..and history, shows you every player you traded in and out and when.

            Redpill5 · 15/08/2018 at 19:33

            Finally found it. Cheers lads. My worst / most unfortunate trades would have to be

            1. Starting with liberatore, did his knee in first 5 mins of season.
            2. Rage trading Mengelola out in round 3.
            3. Starting with Brayshaw only to find he wasn’t named so wasting a trade to get him out, then bringing him back in for $160k more.
            4. Starting with billings
            5. Bringing in Webster
            6. Bringing in hogan and jpk

            Best decisions
            7. Starting with doedee
            8. Bringing in t Kelly and Simpson in round 2
            9. Bringing in Mitchell cheaply in round 8
            10. Switching Grundy for nank in round 6

              Lekdog · 15/08/2018 at 22:22

              1. Unlucky
              2. Did the same bloody thing
              3. Ouch
              4. Dodged that one luckily
              5. Ouch again
              6. Worthy risks I reckon
              7. Nice
              8. Nooooice
              9. Wish I did
              10. Clever

                Redpill5 · 16/08/2018 at 09:20

                Cheers Lek. I reckon a round by round blog/note feature would be great on the SuperCoach site, so you could look back at your decision making process over season and reminisce. Hopefully I won’t forget the lessons I learnt this year but it sure is hard to keep track. Prob finish up around the 2k ranking.

                  Swoopster · 16/08/2018 at 10:24

                  There is a Notepad feature under "more" where history is. I've never used it though.

Derek · 15/08/2018 at 10:04

Look for a vacuum.

Who has been recently injured?

Last few weeks, injured players need to be replaced.

With so many injuries, think about Who will benefit?

Hogan, Ryder, Walters, Shaw all going down….. who fills the void?

There are a few cheaper players who might be great trade in because they have a chance to take an injured players role.

Shaw to TMac for me this week with news of Hogan to miss.

    dontblushbaby · 15/08/2018 at 10:53

    I thought you were going Simmo ? I have the same issue with choosing between Simmo and Tmac and only 1 trade left.

    Hope Kelly comes up and plays

      Derek · 16/08/2018 at 12:31

      I don’t have enough cash for just one trade to simmo

    BrownlowBoy · 15/08/2018 at 13:21

    Ryder out has the potential to help/hinder Hoff.
    McDonald is the obvious one who could benefit from Hogan, potentially even Pederson or Tim Smith
    Walters maybe Langdon? (Not sure about Freo)
    Shaw out potentially increases Whitfield, Finlayson or even Kennedy.

    Just my ideas, none of which could be accurate!

      pigjumpprusik · 16/08/2018 at 00:26

      Hoping Tim Smith doesn't come in for Hogan, required loopholer

Jumny · 15/08/2018 at 11:02

trading Shaw got 450k which defender has the most chance to score a 150? Love some help

    BrownlowBoy · 15/08/2018 at 13:22

    McDonald maybe?

      Lekdog · 15/08/2018 at 22:22

      I reckon^

    pigjumpprusik · 16/08/2018 at 00:22

    Johannisen just over 450k if you can afford him, in form and good matchup vs Carlton. Maybe Howe if he plays. Both huge ceilings but could also have a stinker at the same time.

    Definitely wouldn't trade McDonald in this week. Tough game in Perth and more likely to score an 80 against a quality team compared to a big score.

TheGreatBozza · 15/08/2018 at 12:27

Sitting at 1267 with 3 trades left. Really want to push towards top 1000

B – Yeo, Lloyd, Simpson, Laird, Crisp, McDonald (Austin, O'Riordan)
M – Titch, Cripps, Danger, Kelly, Beams, Cogs, Pendles, Dusty (Ahern, Giro, Dawson)
R – Grundy, Gawn (Hayes)
F – D.Smith, Heeney, Hoff, Gray, McLean, Walters (De Goey, T.Smith)

Trades i'm looking at if Kelly & Walters both miss, which option do we like community:

1. Kelly > Macrae, Walters > B.Smith or Andrews (T Mac DPP)
2. Kelly > Macrae, Walters > Franklin
3. Kelly > Macrae, Walters > Selwood or Sidebottom (De Goey moves to F6, run 9 premo mids with a loop)
4. Kelly > Bont, Walters > Hawkins
5. Kelly > Ross, Walters > Brayshaw (T Mac DPP)

Leaning towards option 1 or 3 to get Macrae, but Bont represents good value and would leave me a decent kitty for my last trade

    Doc · 15/08/2018 at 12:48

    Any way you could bring macrae and menegola?

      BrownlowBoy · 15/08/2018 at 13:23

      Agree with Doc, is that possible?

        TheGreatBozza · 15/08/2018 at 13:45

        Unfortunately about $30k short of doing this if I offload Kelly and Walters

Sam · 15/08/2018 at 13:18

I don’t have Cripps going into my prelim and I can’t get him..
Who can match him best? Macrae, Ablett or Fyfe(if named)

    BrownlowBoy · 15/08/2018 at 13:23

    Macrae or Ablett.

      PizzaSafety · 15/08/2018 at 13:26

      Macrae

    Lekdog · 15/08/2018 at 22:23

    Macrae, reckon the Blues send Curnow (who's struggling) to a McLean or Hunter instead

PizzaSafety · 15/08/2018 at 13:32

Anyone want to mention a few players they're tentatively starting in 2019 at this stage? For me its

Defence: Laird/Whitfield, Docherty, Williams

Midfield: Titch, Cripps, Oliver, Kelly, Yeo, Merrett

Ruck: Grundy, Ryder (if he gets his body right he could be a very solid stepping stone to Gawn)

Forward: Danger (if DPP), Heeney (if DPP), Dunkley (if DPP), Joe Daniher (if fit a mid priced cash cow)

Bont is also a good option if forward. Don't see any young blokes apart from Dunkley who have truly broken out in the second half of the season. You could say Milera has, but he's only averaging 88 in his past 7 so will need a couple of big ones for me to consider him. Witherden could certainly break out and become an elite defender but with Docherty set to be priced at about the same as him and Williams about 100k cheaper I doubt anyone will choose him. Gresham is one to consider but he has that inconsistent Billings feel about him that puts me off. Wingard will be at a good price but his year-to-year inconsistency is a concern.

This is all depends on $$, anyone else's thoughts?

    Smoocha · 15/08/2018 at 14:02

    Dusty should theoretically be forward DPP too

      PizzaSafety · 15/08/2018 at 14:14

      Dusty won't be, there was an article published after R13 saying that he was 74/26 mid/fwd at that point in time and he's been playing less there since then. You need at least 35% to get DPP. Heat maps have nothing to do with positions, what's most important is starting positions at centre bounces and I'm 95% sure that's all that really matters. Luke Parker will get DPP though.

      Edit: I also like Lachie Neale as a pod (over either Cripps or Oliver) heading into next year, has averaged 115 post R5 this year after an interrupted preseason and I still reckon he can average 120+ in a season. I'll consider Dusty but I find him hard to trust after he burned me badly this season.

    BrownlowBoy · 15/08/2018 at 16:01

    Sean Darcy as a ruck option potentially or even Lobb.

    Discounts on Libba, Crouch, Williams, Doch, Scully will all be hard to ignore.

    Throw Macrae and Fyfe into your midfield mix.

    Potentially Bennel and Barlow to be cheap as well.

    Toby Greene, Dylan Roberton also cheaper than this year.

    Will Setterfield could be a brilliant rookie, potential also for Charlie Constable.

    Birchall will be cheap, but father time catching up with him?

    Will Mills be cheap?

    JR_Damo · 15/08/2018 at 16:09

    Matt Crouch will be priced at about a 101 average. Jordan De Goey will be priced at a 91 average, and looks like he'll finally have a pre-season this/next year.

      PizzaSafety · 15/08/2018 at 16:24

      Certainly Lobb and Darcy are options and I would strongly consider Lobb if he looks rock solid in pre-season. I don't think we'll be able to start both Gawn and Grundy and we'll be forced to pick one or the other.

      Crouch is definitely there alongside Dusty, Zorko and Merrett as players priced under their potential. I like the fact that Merrett is now breaking tags and if you ignore the first 3 weeks is averaging 108 this season after averaging 109 and 111 the two years before. My worry with Crouch is that for much of this year his kicking reverted back to the inefficiency that plagued him til the 2nd half of last year. Could easily return back to form mind you.

      Scully could be a great point scoring cash cow that I had not thought of, as could Libba.

      I'll avoid Fyfe due to his tendency to get injured and suspended at his price and I feel Macrae will be hard to squeeze in at his price with cheaper options. Still very decent picks and time will tell.

      A lot of players will be overpriced heading in to next year based on their overall scoring history.

      TRIGGA_HAPPY · 15/08/2018 at 21:06

      Be handy

    TRIGGA_HAPPY · 15/08/2018 at 18:15

    Def: lloyd, laird, doc, sicily, williams
    Mid : titch, clarey, kelly, cripps, macrae
    Ruck: gawn. Darcy/kruez
    Mid: danger, dusty, heeney, dunkley

    If brayshaw keeps def will have to get a gig at the exp of one of the others.

      PizzaSafety · 15/08/2018 at 20:50

      Hey Trig, unfortunately Dusty is highly unlikely to get forward eligibility next year. After R13 a HS article said he was playing 26% of time up forward and unless he's been playing about 45% of time up forward since then to get to the required 35%, he will not be getting DPP. Danger on the other hand was 39% at the time of the article and Jon Ralph wrote an article two weeks ago saying he'd spent 40% of time up forward this season, so he looks like a lock for dpp

      The article mentioned the following players:
      Player / Midfield Time / Forward Time / Defence Time
      Dustin Martin (Rich) 74% / 26%
      Elliot Yeo (WCE) 73% / 12% / 15%
      Luke Parker (Syd) 63% / 37%
      Christian Petracca (Melb) 48% / 52%
      Patrick Dangerfield (Geel) 61% / 39%
      Jordan de Goey (Coll) 37% / 63%
      Robbie Gray (PtA) 44% / 56%

      I'm 99% sure that all that they care about when choosing positions are the starting positions at centre bounces.

      https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/

        TRIGGA_HAPPY · 15/08/2018 at 21:04

        Thanks
        In fantasy and draftstars they both got DPP. Might be a guide.
        But article above paints a different story.
        We see what the jolly man in the red suit brings…..

          PizzaSafety · 15/08/2018 at 21:19

          Yeah it will be interesting, I just hope they don't jack up the prices too much again next year, it's getting tougher to pick a decent side to start the season. I think those comps judge it based on 6 week blocks and the changes stay permanent for the season. I think Dusty started the year with plenty of time up forward only for that to change quite a lot afterwards. Whatever the other comps do, SC prides itself on making it as difficult as possible to play their game. At least Danger, Bont and Parker should take some of this years forward pain away.

            TRIGGA_HAPPY · 15/08/2018 at 21:22

            Would take that. ๐Ÿ˜

    Russty_ · 15/08/2018 at 18:16

    Reckon I'll be starting De goey and Harris Andrews next season, Grundy and Gawn, set and forget, won't waste my picks with guys like Hogan, Petracca or Armitage again..also Christensen, Bonner or Ellis Yoelman, Billings types.
    Doch is a lock if he has a good pre-season, probably not Williams, Dunkley could be good next year, no beanpole fwds like Daniher or Brown for me, and no Buddy until later in the season if he is consistent, better off going for the higher ball winning / dpp fwds I think.

    With the news that Saints are chasing players like Menzel and Hanneberry for next year, I wouldn't have confidence in any Saints players or the Saints for probably the next 5 years.

      PizzaSafety · 15/08/2018 at 21:09

      J Daniher is a lock for me rusty if fit because he will be just 280k according to this years starting prices and averaged 86 in 2017 and is a player with room for improvement. He played rounds 2-7 with a groin injury that developed into OP so I don't think you can honestly judge his performances this year at face value.

        Russty_ · 15/08/2018 at 21:31

        Fair enough Pizza, he was looking good there for awhile, only thing that would worry me about him is, the games where he goes missing and scores you a 40, and cause he's so skinny and lanky he'd get injured more often than the brick outhouse types of forwards.

          PizzaSafety · 15/08/2018 at 21:45

          haha that's fair but I'll only be using him to make money before trading him to Bont or someone on another level to him, and his consistency in 2017 was actually alright for a key forward (only 3 scores below 70). Slim chance he becomes a keeper like Hawkins was this year and JJK was in the past but I doubt it. We will see, if there's enough rookies I could potentially skip on him but from afar he looks like he could be what many hoped Christensen would be this year. De Goey could also potentially be in my side, but I'd currently put him behind Dunkley. If Heeney does not get DPP then I'll probably pick him ahead of Bont and Parker at that cheaper price. Guy has massive potential.

    Lekdog · 15/08/2018 at 22:24

    Docherty pls come back I miss you

    Derek · 16/08/2018 at 12:51

    Taranto, McGrath, burton

r_calve · 15/08/2018 at 14:04

lobb, andrews, jonas, daniel, mcluggage or other

best forward or backmen under 395k. hit us up lads!!

cheers

    PizzaSafety · 15/08/2018 at 14:44

    hmmm Andrews is the one I like the most even though he's not been at the same level since returning. I don't like Lobb's match up with Gawn at all.

    Lekdog · 15/08/2018 at 22:24

    Andrews then Lobb then the others

      r_calve · 15/08/2018 at 23:16

      cheers lekdog,

      goin lobb cos the forward option id better to have as te forward line is weaker for me and look at his games and his average as the lone ruckman looks to b around 85

dontblushbaby · 15/08/2018 at 14:14

Will Mark O'Connor hold his spot for the Cats ?

    BrownlowBoy · 15/08/2018 at 15:53

    Hopefully not

    Lekdog · 15/08/2018 at 22:24

    Hope not!

Jeffrey · 15/08/2018 at 17:31

Can you still trade out Josh a Kelly anytime before his game or only before first game bounce Friday night?

This way can suds out opposition & save last trade for GF if make it!

    Ja191 · 15/08/2018 at 17:48

    Yeah can trade him any time before Kelly’s game starts just remember that you can’t trade him to players who have played as they lock

      Lekdog · 15/08/2018 at 22:25

      This^

TRIGGA_HAPPY · 15/08/2018 at 18:39

Hey mate yep will probably be running the happy ending final series again.
Do u know how to get onto lek or patch as would like to send them the series so they can put it up as a separate article at the end of the home and away series instead of just putting it in a thread.

Give it a bit of pizzazz.

    Russty_ · 15/08/2018 at 18:42

    Not directly but they are on Twitter so maybe JohnDJ59 could drop them a private message relay if he reads this…or you could report me for this comment and leave your name and message with it , they read reports.

dontblushbaby · 15/08/2018 at 20:34

Colin O'Riordan after a good game last week looks like being the front runner to replace Alex Johnson

    Lekdog · 15/08/2018 at 22:25

    Nice eye

Swoopster · 16/08/2018 at 09:40

Can bring in any mid and fwd for J Kelly & Walters. Thoughts on the below options?

Best Mids I dont have: Ablett, Neale or Zerrett

Best Fwds I dont have: TMac, Mundy or Menegola. Dunkley?
Benefit of TMac is swinging him to backline next week for L Ryan and bringing in another fwd.

    BadgerHoney7 · 16/08/2018 at 12:31

    dunkley and ablett or zerrett

Pete · 16/08/2018 at 16:42

Hey guys, I have Kelly,
Dunno if I should trade him to McCrae or Dangerfield???
Please help

    PizzaSafety · 16/08/2018 at 17:22

    Danger due to the easy draw

Defying_Madness · 16/08/2018 at 16:49

Ryan gone for the season, time to munch donuts

    Swoopster · 16/08/2018 at 17:39

    source?

      Defying_Madness · 16/08/2018 at 17:49

      afl website has confirmed it

      Russty_ · 16/08/2018 at 18:19

      Yeah DM's right, Fyfe and probably Walters to play, Ryan gone with a hamstring.
      Article "Dockers guns ready to face the Cats"

Dermin8r · 18/08/2018 at 14:47

My SC season is officially over now, my second year in SC, and having used my last trade in round 15 (oh yes, I have had EVERY injured premo in my team this year – epitomised by Jack MacRae going down only for me to replace him with Adam Treloar who tore Both of his hamstrings in that first game replacing MacRae, and that's how most of my trades got burned…I still don't know how someone can tear both of their hamstrings!).

Anyway, I wanted to post to give my THANKS to the community for their support and answers to my questions. Also LEKDOG, PATCH, DAMO & CO. for their cheatsheets and podcasts. I have enjoyed the Lekdog & Patchy shooooooow, it has been informative and entertaining and I look forward to the 2019 version. Thank you all, and best of luck to those of you who are still in it!
Go Hawks!

Rivo · 18/08/2018 at 20:04

Thanks for the first quarter ๐Ÿ’ฉ Captain Titch. ๐Ÿ™„

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