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Technology is a wonderous thing. It allows us to communicate from one side of the globe to the other, simultaneously. It lets us come together in communities just like this one to be one.

Technology can also be literally the worst. Namely when Windows auto-updates midway through Patch editing a podcast without asking him to save. So we lost Monday night’s podcast, spat into the ether by the Supercoach gods.

We re-recorded the podcast, and then Patch’s computer again made sure that short of losing the audio, everything that could go wrong did go wrong. A rather apt analogy for our Supercoach sides this season, which are now on fire and burning and on fire with the news Nathaniel Fyfe will miss four to five weeks.

Patch and Lekdog – for the second time – look at who to bring in for the Big Fyfe, and dissect the best options in the midfield.

They also answer some questions and gaggle about a bit. Enjoy.

Categories: Supercoach


oliverfisher · 04/07/2018 at 01:53

After being a late in last week, do we think that Ahern will play again this week? I have both Heeney and JJK likely out injured, so hoping Ahern can provide cover.

    North · 04/07/2018 at 06:22

    Yeah he’ll play. Played pretty well

    jez_m · 04/07/2018 at 08:38

    Yeah he'll hold his place I reckon. Was pretty good.

    NoLanguage · 04/07/2018 at 15:26

    Will definitely play. Murphy will probably make way for Zurhaar

    Lekdog · 05/07/2018 at 10:32

    He'll play surely!

Sc_Wow · 04/07/2018 at 08:37

Cya Columbia you hacks

    Lazza · 04/07/2018 at 21:54

    The pope is sh1tting himself !

samboga · 04/07/2018 at 09:30

Pandles or Beams?

    Patch · 04/07/2018 at 17:25

    If you're strapping for cash, Beams or Crouch. Crouch is probably the better option but I've got a really weird desire to bring Beams in.

Tofa · 04/07/2018 at 09:46

so getting in early to ask possibly a silly question:
what's the point of trading in or starting the year with mid range (65-85 point avg) players?
a premo u can set and forget, a route makes u money and is replaced or used for temporary coverage. but the not cheap and not high scoring players… aside from coaches who need coverage for rankings, what's the use on wasting trades?

    Ja191 · 04/07/2018 at 09:54

    As sometimes these mid range players act as cash cows whilst also giving a higher point per game output. Sometimes they may not make as much as a rookie would but the extra points over starting a rooky make it worth it. They also have a possibility of becoming a d7/m9/f7 or a premo/keeper

      SC_Kev7 · 04/07/2018 at 12:06

      Yeah, picking mid range players to start with is about trying to pick a break out player. Which is very hard to do. Clayton Oliver the classic example. Averaged 70 in his first year, was priced at 380k to start 2017 and went on and averaged 111.

      As for trading in players. Look at Wingard right now. At the end of round 11 he was averaging 69.7 and 364k. Past 4 weeks he's had a role change and averaged 108 in that period. So while his overall average is 81 and his 450k is midrange, he's been better than that recently.

      Patch · 04/07/2018 at 17:27

      I used Zac Fisher as a cash cow this season. At ~250k, he averaged more than a rookie at a time when all the forward rookies were garbage, but I was never going to keep him.

      It's a fine line to dance and not one we've got the trades to do more than once, and it can go so, so badly. Starting them can be the same logic, but 90 per cent of the time they're low percentage plays.

Marcus · 04/07/2018 at 10:16

Is Josh Kelly a must have for those who dont have him?

    Sc_Wow · 04/07/2018 at 11:36

    Fyfe gone Kelly in

    theRealPod · 04/07/2018 at 15:00


gator59 · 04/07/2018 at 10:26

Squirell Rioli announces retriement

    theRealPod · 04/07/2018 at 11:01

    Bloody legend

BrownlowBoy · 04/07/2018 at 11:28

Tom Stewart aka the GOAT

Steeeve · 04/07/2018 at 12:14

If playing only for leagues, which I am now I've fallen out the top 500, is holding Fyfe an option? Could be out for as many as five weeks. And I have 8 trades…

    Derek · 04/07/2018 at 13:53

    what is your best ever rank? if you think you can beat it, keep playing for rank. people without trades fall away at the end.

    8 trades left is brilliant. trade out Fyfe as many people ahead of you won't have that luxury.

      Steeeve · 04/07/2018 at 15:58

      Okay cheers, will be my best ever regardless at this point, never finished inside top 1500 before (only my third year playing).
      I had planned to trade Fritsch to Wingard but then I can't quite afford Fyfe to Kelly.
      So am thinking Fyfe to Wingard this week, and Fritsch to Kelly the week after (swinging Wingard down). Hopefully Kelly drops in price this week, if not he almost certainly will the week after.
      Would love to know your thoughts

    Patch · 04/07/2018 at 17:29

    You've got enough trades to trade him out and back in again! And 500 is phenomenal, you can absolutely push your way into the top 100 from here as a lot of people will be running out of gas, cash and trades (like yours truly). Keep fighting for it Steeeeeve!

      Steeeve · 04/07/2018 at 17:46

      Thanks mate will do! Gone Guelfi down to De Konig and Fyfe to Kelly. This leaves me full premo with 7 trades and 220k.

      Reason for De Konig (ruck forward) is I have English and feel he has to get a few more games this season. De Konig can swing with English and Carlton play a lot of games later in the weekend. My f7 will be Josh Kennedy so it's handy having a loophole option.

TheGreatBozza · 04/07/2018 at 12:28

Got a few trade ideas to go through for this week. Currently sitting on 9 trades with $164,000 in the bank

D – Simmo, Yeo, Sicily, Howe, Savage, Laird (Richards, Austin)
M – Mitchell, Kelly, Fyfe, Dangerfield, Cripps, Pendles, Congilio, Martin (Ahern, Giro, Dawson)
R – Gawn, Grundy (Hayes)
F – Heeney, Gray, D.Smith, De Goey, Walters, McLean (Ryan, T.Smith)

Option 1:
Fyfe to Neale
Ryan to Billings

Option 2:
Fyfe to Oliver
Ryan to A.Brayshaw (DPP)

Option 3:
Fyfe to Crouch
Ryan to Franklin / Menegola

Option 4:
Fyfe to Beams
Ryan to Westhoff

Option 5:
Fyfe to Shuey
Ryan to Lloyd

I'm leaning to option 3 or 4 personally, as it gives me the best balance. Plan is to use De Goey as a swinging M9/F7 due to his high ceiling

    KingWinter7 · 04/07/2018 at 13:02

    I'd go Crouch and Westhoff if you could but if can't afford Westhoff, Buddy is second best forward option for mine

      TheGreatBozza · 04/07/2018 at 15:39

      I’m just short to grab Crouch and Hoff

      Might go Buddy

    Tyruddanaut · 04/07/2018 at 16:14

    Oliver is a must-have imo. I'm going to say option 2. That DPP is vital for having an F7/D7/M9 swingman

      TheGreatBozza · 04/07/2018 at 16:48

      Unfortunately I wouldn't have a D7-M9 swing man if I brought in Brayshaw, unless I offloaded Giro to a floating donut next week for example. I meant (DPP) in brackets as I'm swinging Sicily back forward, giving me 7 forwards

      I would be able to swing De Goey using Ahern though

Jim_bob321 · 04/07/2018 at 12:30

Hey community,
Hope you went well last week. I'm just a bit confused on my team at this rate…. Scored 2400 and don't know what trades to make.
Thinking of holding Fyfe for now but not sure. My backline is in desperate need but have no generation. Need the communities help.. if u can lol
Bank of 83,400, Trades = 5
DEF: Sicily, Simpson, Laird, Savage, Howe, J. Smith (Langlands, Redman)
MID: Mitchell, Cripps, Danger, Duncan, Bont, Conglio, Fyfe, E. Curnow (Ahern, Giro, Brown)
RCK: Gawn, Martin (Cameron)
FWD: M. Robinson, Westhoff, Gray, Franklin, D. Smith, Mclean (T. Smith, J. Battle)
Cheers community!

    Da_Boysh · 04/07/2018 at 14:51

    i wanted to hold Fyfe too but doesn't look like an option anymore mate. time for him to go.

    Tyruddanaut · 04/07/2018 at 16:12

    Trade Fyfe to someone quite cheap, but will score 105+ from now on. This should get you enough money to upgrade a rookie to a defensive premium

      Jim_bob321 · 04/07/2018 at 17:24

      Like who? thinking crouch but still not enough dosh

    Patch · 04/07/2018 at 17:31

    If you're feeling dicey, Fyfe to Shuey and Smith up to whoever you can get?

      Jim_bob321 · 04/07/2018 at 17:41

      Nice idea… Will have to wait next week tho…. got 520k left for a defender and really want yeo/crisp/lloyd

      Cisco · 05/07/2018 at 13:43

      Fyfe to Shuey locked Patch, great idea. Unndervalued & frees cash up for future disasters. πŸ‘

    Defying_Madness · 04/07/2018 at 19:52

    I like going Fyfe to Crouch and waiting a week for Webster to drop in price then going T Smith to Webster with some DPP shuffling

Steve · 04/07/2018 at 12:43

Who is everyone getting in for fyfe?

im thinking crouch or gaff

    Ja191 · 04/07/2018 at 14:09

    Im tossing jpk and crouch

      Redpill5 · 04/07/2018 at 22:09

      Are they enjoying it?

      fcabel · 05/07/2018 at 12:10

      Give em a toss from all of us

    Da_Boysh · 04/07/2018 at 14:54

    considering Higgins

    theRealPod · 04/07/2018 at 14:56

    JPK or Higgins, I think Higgins just.

    Kevdup · 04/07/2018 at 15:22


    NoLanguage · 04/07/2018 at 15:27

    Higgins for mine. 2% of teams for a bloke that's had 6 scores of 120+ and a good run home

    SamuraiPizzaCat · 04/07/2018 at 15:41

    I'm thinking Crouch, or Oliver, or JPK, or Gaff, or… ugh too many options

    Lazza · 04/07/2018 at 21:59

    I’m tossing up between Crouch, Cripps or JPK

KingWinter7 · 04/07/2018 at 12:59

Bring in Westhoff over Buddy this week yeah?

    Ja191 · 04/07/2018 at 14:09


Davo · 04/07/2018 at 13:55

Great effort guys, above and beyond for the community!

    Patch · 04/07/2018 at 17:33

    Cheers mate <3 unlike a windows update, the community never lets me down

    Lekdog · 05/07/2018 at 10:33

    Thanks Davo

Hawks · 04/07/2018 at 14:44

Is it worth trying to paint the fence to get Shuey in, and retain Fyfe as a POD hopefully for the SC finals

    Oliver · 04/07/2018 at 15:02

    I'm considering the same move. If you have a high price rookie and a little bit of cash you could upgrade say a Brayshaw to Shuey. I think if you also have a forward swing and a decent F7 it might make it worthwhile. That way if Shuey starts spudding it up you can swing say a Heeney, McLean etc into the mids and play your F7 at F6.

    Lekdog · 05/07/2018 at 10:33

    Like it

r_calve · 04/07/2018 at 14:49

anyone think Viney is a viable option, he has looked good the last few weeks and with Oliver being tagged he looks even better, good or bad

    Da_Boysh · 04/07/2018 at 14:54

    dont like Viney personally, and I am steering clear of the demons here on out as well. I smell a capitulation.

    GreendaleFC · 04/07/2018 at 17:48

    He's looking fully fit now, but I don't think that his game style suits supercoach very well. If you're looking for a cheapish midfielder, I'd much rather bring in Matt Crouch, who is a proven scorer.

    Lekdog · 05/07/2018 at 10:34

    I'd rather grab a Crouch or Shuey tbh

Da_Boysh · 04/07/2018 at 14:53

Fyfe into Higgins or am I losing the plot?

    theRealPod · 04/07/2018 at 14:58

    Not at all Boysh good call.

      Da_Boysh · 04/07/2018 at 15:04

      done cheers!

    NoLanguage · 04/07/2018 at 15:29

    Doing the same thing Boysh!

    Patch · 04/07/2018 at 17:34

    I like it

      Lekdog · 05/07/2018 at 10:34

      I don't

Gibbs · 04/07/2018 at 16:30

Thoughts on trading fyfe to Duncan? Averaging 107 only 2% of teams and has ability to go big! I don't have cripps or Kelly, so there's the obvious ones but would I be better off going Duncan over either of those 2?

    Patch · 04/07/2018 at 17:35

    I'm still pinching myself that Duncan is averaging 107. I don't know how he is, but he's doing it. He's absolutely an option. I get worried by Geelong's midfield so won't go there myself but would love to see you get on the Dunc train!

    r_calve · 04/07/2018 at 18:01

    get cripps

    Lekdog · 05/07/2018 at 10:35

    At the start of the year I was at the races and saw Joel Selwood, I asked his mate to take a photo of us and he obliged…turned out that match was Duncan, the forever forgotten Geelong mid. He's a good option.

BadgerHoney7 · 04/07/2018 at 16:54

how good was cyril !! gonna miss watching that bloke, an outstanding career – round 11 to round 19 in the 2012 season these were the following scores (125, 115, bye, 73, 159, 105, 127, 134, 124). Nothing short of insane.

    Patch · 04/07/2018 at 17:36

    Phenomenal. Absolute superstar.

theRealPod · 04/07/2018 at 16:55

Gawn VC Grundy C

Stacky23 · 04/07/2018 at 17:12

140k and 6 trades
lloyd,simpson,yeo,laird,crisp,savage (austin,murphy)
Titch,Jkelly,Cripps,Fyfe,Higgins,Parker,MartinRockliff (ahern,giro,mutch)
Gawn, Naitanui (olango)
Sicily,Heeney,Mclean,Smith,Walters,De goey (Fritsch, dixon)
My first choice is to go fyfe to danger and bring in another premo mid closer to finals or i can trade fritsch up to a mid and field de goey rather than loop, Thoughts on what to do with fyfe

    Patch · 04/07/2018 at 17:37

    I like the first option Stacky. No real rookies to downgrade Fritsch to at this point for cover

BadgerHoney7 · 04/07/2018 at 17:22

hurley and higgins or lloyd and shuey?????

    r_calve · 04/07/2018 at 18:00

    hurl hig

    pigjumpprusik · 04/07/2018 at 20:18

    Lloyd & Shuey

    NoLanguage · 05/07/2018 at 00:53

    Hurley and Higgins for sure

Rivo · 04/07/2018 at 17:56

Nice recovery Lek & Patch.
So 7 trades & only $2k.
Fyfe to Gaff/JPK only, or use the opportunity to get that final defender premo? Keeping Mihocek & Ridley on the pine..

Fyfe & Austin to which of the below???

1. Hurn & Shuey
2. Hurley & Boak
3. Tuohy & Rocky
4. Witherden & McLean
5. Beams & Houston
6. M.Crouch & E.Richards
7. Wingard & Doedee
8. Gaff & Duryea
9. J.Kelly & Alir
10. JPK & D.McKenzie

    r_calve · 04/07/2018 at 18:00

    McLean and witherden or hurn and Shuey

      Rivo · 04/07/2018 at 18:04

      Thanks r_clave. Hard to narrow it down.

    Marcus · 04/07/2018 at 18:39

    Hurn and shuey for mine
    But in saying that I don’t particularly like any of the options

      Rivo · 04/07/2018 at 18:45

      It’s a tough one going 2 trades with little cash. If it’s the one trade only, would you go Fyfe to JPK or Gaff?

        Lazza · 04/07/2018 at 22:12


    Russty_ · 05/07/2018 at 00:16

    I will put a new one to you Rivo…Carlisle and Shuey!…risky but also could be glorious πŸ™‚

      Rivo · 05/07/2018 at 06:43

      That is high risk. Carlisle breaks my flog rule, though I do have Sicily.

Andy · 04/07/2018 at 18:08

Fyfe to Wines?

    r_calve · 04/07/2018 at 22:08


    Sana · 06/07/2018 at 19:51

    Ballsy! A Jock-like pick

Josh · 04/07/2018 at 19:43

Any suggestions on what to do this week would be really appreciated

7 trades left $44k in the bank

Def- Laird, Sicily, Yeo, Webster, Hurley, Savage (Richards, Taylor)
Mid- Fyfe, Mitchell, Cripps, Kelly, Curnow, Parker, Coniglio, Merrett (Ahern, Giro, J Smith)
Ruck- Gawn, Nic Nat (Olango)
Fwd- Heeney, McDonald, McLean, Franklin, Walters, Battle (T Smith, Keeffe)

Lazza · 05/07/2018 at 00:08

What % constitutes a POD at this time of the season? As the season progresses teams accumulate the best performed pods pushing their ownership over 10%. An examples would be Bont (12%) and Walters (11%) .. no longer considered PODs but were well under 10% for a good part of the season ..

    Russty_ · 05/07/2018 at 00:14

    Hey Lazza, I reckon a pod this year is someone with a relatively lowish ownership, and doesn't get injured within 3 weeks of us getting them in.

      Lazza · 05/07/2018 at 00:17

      Those are bloody hard to pick ..

        Russty_ · 05/07/2018 at 00:24

        Yeah can be mate, and also…all rules that you thought were true can and do go out the window towards the pointy end of the season. Sometimes you need to do something different.
        Not blowing my own trumpet but sometimes, going against the grain can also work for you because many coaches are desperate and just trying to hang on this time in the season.
        It's worked plenty of times for me in the past.

          Lazza · 05/07/2018 at 09:12

          Hmmm, and I have plenty of trades should things go awry.

    Lazza · 05/07/2018 at 00:16

    I was thinking about this whilst considering my Fyfe replacement .. I had a number of PODs early on and now I only have 1 keeper POD on field (Luke Ryan).. so should I be looking at Gaff, Parker, Crouch and JPK .. all under 10% ownership or go no PODs at all and pick the best ranked which will guarantee me having a difference or two or three cos everyone else has odd PODs..

      Russty_ · 05/07/2018 at 00:31

      Pods can sometimes be over rated for sure….I'm getting 2 guys in this week who most people would probably think…yeah nah nah…but i think they'll finish well…and were fairly cheap., and replace Fyfe, and a rookie who has been underwhelmingly average.

Cobee Bear · 05/07/2018 at 12:16

Matt Crouch playing despite small hand fracture

    Lazza · 05/07/2018 at 13:51

    Which one is his small hand? 😁

DanMil9 · 05/07/2018 at 14:35

Hey guys need some help

looking for a rookie in the mid, would love to hear some suggestions


    Russty_ · 05/07/2018 at 15:04

    Narkle and Sier both looked pretty good in their first games last week Dan.

John · 05/07/2018 at 14:57

Who to trade Fyfe for, out of Duncan, Neale, Higgins, Kelly and JPK?

    Marty · 05/07/2018 at 19:17

    Kelly for mine.

Steve · 05/07/2018 at 17:47

Who are the top 6 forwards we should have this year?

    Marty · 05/07/2018 at 19:20

    Sicily Westoff Gray McDonald T, McLean Heeney is the current top 6. Robinson (a surprise this year) and Buddy not far behind.

Jarryd · 05/07/2018 at 19:03

Titch VC into Grundy or Gawn VC into Grundy?????

    Jarryd · 05/07/2018 at 19:05

    Or Cripps into Titch?

Marty · 05/07/2018 at 19:22

Or Gawn into Titch. All good options, First option imo.

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Declan · 09/07/2018 at 11:22

Love the work lads:

Thanks to your help managed to climb back into top 1,000.

Would love some thought on who to get:

T Mac
R Gray
D Smith

Thoughts would be much appreciated

    Mark · 10/07/2018 at 06:14

    Devon Smith 1st mate. Than Gray followed by McLean.

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MUSICETO · 01/02/2020 at 06:09

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