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THE STANDING ROOM Round 15

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That round didn’t go well.

It went awfully, in fact. Heeney, Dusty, Oliver, Smith and more all delivered sub-par scores. Gunston a late out. Nathaniel Fyfe doing a hamstring in the first half of his game.

And that’s before we talk about VC/C carnage caused by Ahern and Giro being late ins, or just people not putting the captaincy on Tom Mitchell

 

How are you travelling? What are you on track to score? What are your moves this week?

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Patch

Will discuss this in the podcast, but Luke Shuey at ~370k this week coming off a 116. What do we think? Trap? Lock at M9?

Also this round has hurt so very, very much. I miss the bye rounds.

r_calve

how long is Fyfe out for and should we trade him

Swans2012

I bought him in this week to loop with rocky at m9, worked this week but who knows….

JeffHeadJfc

Shuey in at m9 to cover fyfe for the next couple

Patch

Will be a popular move I feel

Lazza

Hey Patch.. Giro was in the team from the beginning .. not a late in.. SC stuffed up with him and Guelfi ..

Lazza

I’m so glad I switched my C to Ridley at 3/4 time of Melb game to get Gawn’s score.. else I would have had Fyfe’s..

Lazza

Have captured the Black Flag after being behind for most of the weekend .. 2272 with Dusty, Oliver, Fyfe, Luke Ryan, McDonald and Franklin all spudding it up..

Patch

Massive work Lazza! Who'd you whack the C on? EDIT: Just seen your comment above, lovely stuff mate

Randomcliche2

Popular score mate, identical to Swans2012 and myself. You can add D.Smith and Heeney to list of poo bears.

FearTheBeard

How bad is Fyfe's injury?

Da_Boysh

looks like 3-4

Rivo

Hi Patch. I feel your pain. Only scraped into 2235, with Fyfe Captain, Oliver, T-Mac, Dusty & Dev Smith. An complete mess. Now have to worry about injuries to Fyfe & Heeney.
Going to be a lot of soul searching. Any bubble boys worth considering?

Ja191

Not a bubble boy but love the look of narkle from the catters

Rivo

Yes Ja, both Narkle & Sier were impressive. Shame they are not DPP.

Ahmad rubas

4 wins out of 9 leagues not too bad considering I captained Cripps instead of Gawn or titch and none of my opponents had Fyfe captain. Annoying I lost the one matchup I cared about this week due to him captaining titch and heeney lobb smith on my side.
How did everyone else go this weekend and does anyone have any early trade plans?

TIGESB2B

F me. Brought on NP loophole to take Grundy's VC score, and forgot to change the E to Guelfi. So, played a man short and lost by 17. And didn't have VC on Titch. And played D Fog fwd instead of Ahern coz Ahern wasn't playing – on mid bench.

Adam

Lost by 40 freaking 6, Shaw 40 Degoey 64 and
the C on Fyfe 43, like are you kidding me aghhhhh

Connor

Ended around 2200 even with the Mitchell captaincy… had the Kreuzer donut then copped Heeney, Fyfe, T Mac, Buddy & Oliver – had to play Josh Battle too

hedski

2289, not to bad with Heeney, Dusty, Fyfe, Smith and Ryan all crapping their dacks or getting injured.

SamuraiPizzaCat

Similar score to me 2282, captained Fyfe and have Heeney, Dusty, Smith.. no Ryan though

David

Lost by one because I reversed my trades right on game time Thursday night. It locked dusty as captain as he was my loophole from the week before. Not ideal.

Clinterfell_FC

This happened to me in the second week of the byes, locking in Macrae as C on the night he did his hammy!!! Thutnight games are a killer!

Clinterfell_FC

Second time this year that a late IN (Ahern) has cost me a loophole worth 170+. I live overseas and these late changes happen at about 4 or 5am and give me no chance to respond! Almost makes me consider playing the “other AFL fantasy” game… almost.

Hawks

Finished with 2372 despite having Heeney, D.Smith, Dusty, Fyfe & Oliver.

Won 4 out of 5 match-ups, the one I lost my opponent needed S.Martin to outscore Fyfe by 74 points, ohh well.

DANGER1VDUSTY222

Jacob Dawson 102k rookie MID (51 + 59)
Any better options for cash generation this week?

Audrey Horne

Go early on Sier.

theRealPod

Sier was good but vs Suns, think I'll watch him another week.

KSinny

Slowly creeping up the rankings with a 2317 despite having Heeney, Fyfe, Oliver, Smith and Guelfi. I've now moved up to 5114 which is my best rank ever ๐Ÿ˜ Hows everyone else traveling?

Derek

Very nice. Well done, this is your breakout year.

DEES NUTS R BIG

Best MID 8 under 530k for final upgrade.
Gaff/Selwood/Curnow/Crouch?

Derek

Crouch. With Sloane back Crouch will kill it

theRealPod

Selwood loves tough games, Cats have tough games ahead. Crouch also well worth a look.

Sam_01

Fell 400 spots after putting up a 2150 sitting just outside the top 1000 now, obviously need to assess the Fyfe injury is it worth just trading Him and mounting an attack on the prize if he is gone for 3-4+
Thinking Fyfe to matt crouch frees cash and nicnat to Grundy
Will leave me with one trade left but you gotta risk it for the biscuit
Like the look of crouch with Adelaide slowly putting their team back together

ZzZCalintZzZ

For anyone outside top 500 right now it's a far stretch you can make up the gap in 8.
499th place is 1,037pts behind.

I would say only the top 200 at most are still in it for now.

SuperLottocoach

More than 80% of comments are referencing the influence that luck had on scores this round. Maybe SC is more about luck than it is about skill?

ZzZCalintZzZ

Nah luck is subjective
Some say it's 10%
Others say 30%
I say it's 50% because you control the starting team then the trades but it's only half the game. The other half is the actual players which you don't control.

1st half concussions/injuries for low scores, long term injuries, suspensions ect will happen but how many times it effects your team is what makes this game about luck. Sure identifying players who are not injury prone is important too. That you can control.

Point is every season has its great luck moments and bad luck moments.

Coaches have gone:
JJK > Gunston
Cogs > Treloar
Dusty > Treloar

For example

ZzZCalintZzZ

Don't think there would be many people here who would not have made minimum 4 injury trades and
3 corrective trades this season

Randomcliche2

You must plan for injury trades, at least 10 of them, using them more aggressively early in the season because once touch is lost it's lost, given that by now the variation between teams really starts to narrow.

Lazza

Trade analysis:
Injury: Ryan, Greene, Macrae, JJK, Fyfe
Corrections: Zorko, Hibberd,
Held thru injury: Franklin, Walters,
Bit me: Zorko trade out
Biting me: Dusty trade in

10 trades left.

Derek

people only remember the bad luck.

good luck is quickly put down to superior SC skills.

everyone will have the same amount of tough stories and good stories over the course of the season. it averages itself out, always does. It is then the coaches who plan for these things that recover the quickest.

ZzZCalintZzZ

My defining moment this year was not starting Fyfe because of his 2 previous seasons I predicted he would fall again but as the season got toward the back end I was definately starting to doubt my decision.

Thing is could I have saved a trade if a stuck with Cogs… yes
Could I have saved 3 trades if I did not go Cogs to Treloar then to Fyfe… yes

This is SuperCoach

theRealPod

No doubt luck, or as some like to refer to as The SC Gods, can greatly influence your season. How you deal with the problems is what seperates the average coach and an elite coach.

ZzZCalintZzZ

agree with that. I made some poor trades

mick

57 th possy 2 trades left with fyfe and heeney out trade fyfe and Taranto 4 crouch and a pod or keep trades need help

ZzZCalintZzZ

You got a premo on bench?
If you do hold them trades, this season is on another level for soft tissue injuries so far and the worst part is this was supposed to be happening in the last 4-5 games when players feel the pinch. Not over the last month with 8 games to go still!

mick

tnx no premo on bench only ahern

Derek

show your full team

theRealPod

Great effort on getting so high in the rankings Mick but I think the fat lady is clearing her throat. I heard her dulcet tones months ago now after league wins, cheers

TheGreatBozza

Brutal round thanks to Fyfe el capitano, bunched in with bringing in Heeney, as well as De Goey failing to fire. Dropped from 1500 to 3200 rank

Moving forward who is the best Fyfe replacement? I’ve got 9 trades left so I’ll be looking to move him on and also bring in another premo defender to finish my team, and have De Goey as my F7 with Savage as D6

ZzZCalintZzZ

Crouch, JPK, Parker, Kelly, Duncan, Pendlebury any of those

Defying_Madness

Kelly, Neale, Gaff or Crouch for me apart from the obvious players most already have

Lazza

Cripps if you don’t have him… almost a straight swap.

BrownlowBoy

Lebron signed with the Lakers!!!

ZzZCalintZzZ

I know -.-
That mean Lonzo will be a bench bum lol

BrownlowBoy

Nah, I think Lebron will quiet enjoy playing with Lonzo.

Despite LaVar being a jerk, Lonzo is a good player. Lonzo is a passing point guard, which will help Lebron I feel.

Exciting times ahead in LA!

Ja191

would of loved to see him go to philly with ben and embiid

ZzZCalintZzZ

Simmons need to work on his mid range jumper
Guy will be a 23-9-10 player at his peak

INPieman

If Simmons becomes a good shooter he will be unstoppable. I reckon he needs to go back to right handed

BrownlowBoy

Agree Pieman. He's a natural right hander. If you look closely, all his finishes around the rim are with his right hand (majority of the time).

INPieman

He's natural right handed. Looks so much more coordinated. Lets hope common sense prevails & becomes a legend

Shake_n_Bake_

Easier passage for the Celtics to make finals!! ๐Ÿ€๐Ÿ’ช๐Ÿ€

Ja191

Haha good for us raptors, lebron won’t sweep us til later

Stacky23

scored 2306 and up another 1000 to be ranked 5295, not to bad considering heeney, dusty, fyfe and smith
De goey trade did not go as planned but took fritsch score and ended up winning by under 10 and now have decent cover for fyfe over coming weeks so can save my 6 remaining trades

Marcus

What are peoples thoughts on Neale
Think Fyfe out will increase production or will he struggle with extra attention?

theRealPod

Neale struggles when tagged, buyer beware.

Steeeve

Neale feasts on the crap teams, doesn't score as well against good teams.

Ja191

i like jpk

Scoops_McYoung

2372, moved back up to 656 (was 250 pre byes).

Was on track for 2500 until Sunday… Oliver, DSmith, Fyfe ๐Ÿ™

This game really does hurt sometimes..

DTJ

I top scored ๐Ÿ™‚

Any thoughts on Brayshaw (on the bench) to Sier then either Ronke or Christensen to the Hoff.
or
Brayshaw to Trengrove and either Ronke or Christensen back to Billings.

SamuraiPizzaCat

Wow that's awesome congrats! Huge rank change!

I'm still not sure I trust Billings but his last two scores have been good, the Hoff is a better choice. Trengove would be a decent bench option.

theRealPod

Awesome DTJ congrats. Billings no, Hoff yes.

Steeeve

What was your score mate?

DTJ

2639 ๐Ÿ™‚

sc tragic

Kudos mate, well done great score.

Cotchinator

Well Done DTJ, awesome effort, and you have something concrete to show for your season.
Unlike the other 2 in here who have been constantly raving all year about their rank and how good they are who will end up with nothing!!

theRealPod

๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿ‘

Da_Boysh

great effort!

Dice_real

Gday Patch, similar thing to me mate.
Took me boys away for the weekend and forgot to take the C off farkin fyfe!
Scored 2323 – vc stayed on gawn

Steeeve

Finished under 2200 and still in only dropped a couple hundred spots, still in top 1000. Must have been a lot of poor scores among the highly-ranked players this week.

Randomcliche2

Interesting Stevo 2270 and rank didn't move much I think… still a bit of a way off at 6k.

Jim_bob321

Hey community,
Hope you went well last week. I'm just a bit confused on my team at this rate…. Scored 2400 and don't know what trades to make.
Thinking of holding Fyfe for now but not sure. My backline is in desperate need but have no generation. Need the communities help.. if u can lol
Bank of 83,400
DEF: Sicily, Simpson, Laird, Savage, Howe, J. Smith (Langlands, Redman)
MID: Mitchell, Cripps, Danger, Duncan, Bont, Conglio, Fyfe, E. Curnow (Ahern, Giro, Brown)
RCK: Gawn, Martin (Cameron)
FWD: M. Robinson, Westhoff, Gray, Franklin, D. Smith, Mclean (T. Smith, J. Battle)
Cheers community!

Redpill5

If you have plenty of trades you might want to consider trading out Fyfe as he will lose money when he returns from injury and trade in yeo for redman.

BigAl_15

SOOOO frustrated with myself. I put the C on Fyfe over Gawn as I couldn't loophole him and got 2241. Would've had such a better score if I captained Gawn…rip

NoLanguage

Fyfe To Shauny Higgins? 6 scores of 120+ and is absolutely flying with North having a decent run home.

AND only in 2% of teams…

Ja191

Ughhhh the tag worries me

NoLanguage

Been breaking it pretty comfortably of late. He also won't get tagged by Jacobs ๐Ÿ™‚

Ja191

Was on like 25 at ht 2 weeks ago being tagged before a 75 point third quarter where they took off tag I believe. Go with your gut though could be a very good pod pick

NoLanguage

Yeah they can lock him down for periods but has been very consistent. If Fyfe is out for at least 3 he's gotta go surely

Andy

Pendles, Wines or someone else around that price for Fyfe?

sc tragic

Do you know how long Fyfe is out? Reverse trades are a life saver tho.

Andy

Minimum 2 weeks I saw on AFL site

Russty_

Hey Andy, reckon Pendles is looking pretty good, Joel Selwood too..Fyfe out for at least 2, could be 3 could be 4, then it's finals in SC

TBone_9

Oliver all good to play this week? Saw nothing about his late driving tackle and getting fined at all. Also, who’s keeping Fyfe and whose selling?

BlueBaggerJosh

Hammies rarely one week so I think I'll trade to Kelly, Neale or JPK, 1 trade left is scary though so I'm not sure. Wanted to trade Boak but if I go along with the Fyfe trade I can't unless I hope there are no more injuries for the year and trade to a fallen premo like Darling later in time for SC Finals.

Lazza

Probably just do a straight swap to Cripps..

JohnDJ59

Keeping Fyfe, he should be back for our finals, I have cover on all lines, but not many trades left.

Marty

I'm thinking Fyfe will be out 3-4 weeks. See the quote from The Age.

"Fremantle coach Ross Lyon was unsure how serious Fyfe's injury was but it appears his skipper will miss the standard three to four weeks in a further blow to the struggling Dockers, who were made to look second-rate by a Lions side that had previously won only one game all season."

Russty_

It's all too traumatic to think about Marty…lol, so many bloody injuries this year, how are we meant to get through to the end?…lol

Marty

I know mate if i dump Fyfe I will only have 3 trades. Decisions decisions. Least the Saints have now won back to back games. Wonders never cease.

BlueBaggerJosh

Lol I'll have 1 ๐Ÿ˜ต

ZzZCalintZzZ

If the next month is even half as bad as last month I think thousands of coaches will be out of trades with 4 games still to go

JohnDJ59

I'm thinking of not even continuing with SC next year if they don't raise the amount of trades to at least 33 to account for the amount of injuries that have been happening the last few years, doesn't matter how well you plan, injuries are having too much of an influence on results for me.

FotherMuckers

Fyfe (C), Heeney, Oliver, D.Smith – SuperCoach is giving no love.

AuroraBorealis?!

had all of those plus T.Mac, Luke Ryan and Liam Ryan. It was a tough round

theRealPod

Mihocek job security boosted with Dunn injury. Pies might struggle without the big fella.

SC_Sixty6

Unlucky for the Battle owners. Out for 3 weeks minimum. Fractured eye socket.

Cobee Bear

Starting to become difficult to cover Heeney, Fyfe and Battle. A nervous wait for Liam Ryan owners as well.

Cobee Bear

Heeney status still not confirmed*

Da_Boysh

he won't play i don't think.. don't see how he can…

Cobee Bear

Would be surprised if he took the field, and wouldn't expect a great score even if he did

Lazza

How many weeks on the side lines for being a space cadet?

Crow94

Sick of this crap… players going down so often atm… i just got him in for cover last week!

JohnDJ59

Same.

Rabbits16

gr8! Just traded him in ๐Ÿ˜€

theRealPod

SCOOTER ๐Ÿ˜Š Welcome back!!

Da_Boysh

Hi All,

Ranked 795, 5 trades left 60k in the bank.. I am not really in a position for the 50k am I?

DEF: Simpson, Yeo, Sicily, Laird, Shaw, Hurley (Ridley, Austin)

MID: Titch, Kelly, Cripps, Danger, Merrett, Coniglio, Fyfe, Martin (Ahern, Phillips, Giro)

RUC: Grundy, Gawn (Lavender)

FWD: McDonald, Heeney, Gray, D.Smith, Walters, McLean, (T.Smith, Battle)

Feedback appreciated

theRealPod

To be honest I don't think you'll even get close. Your team is solid but very similar to others. You would have to fly over the top of the leaders with a hand full of POD's that play well above average for the rest of the season. There are other factors including uber player injuries or loss of form, and top ranked coaches running out of trades.

You've done an excellent job getting to that position.

Keenbutclueless

I am a little more bullish on this team. Basically because you possibly have more trades than other similarly placed teams. If you are to turn that into an advantage, then you would move on Fyffe if he is out for 2 weeks or more. You might be better to sit on those trades and hope you can use them late, and others have run out. I don’t think you can trade now into the 50k, you need to be well placed if others fall over

Da_Boysh

thanks both! yeah good point i think i will sit on my trades, seems to best option regardless it will help league and is my only shot at 50k as well.

HonestJohn

Of course you're still in with a shot, you've got a great chance. All it takes is a single good/bad/lucky captains choices to make up 300 points and then there's injuries with minimal trades and the psychological impact they have on coaches.
To improve your chances even further trade in a cheapish dpp wildcard to loophole (wingard or billings maybe) fwds always have off-weeks and being able to loop out of that score can be a huge advantage.
Well done and good luck

Da_Boysh

Thanks mate!

Lazza

Get rid of Shaw if you want any chance ..

Nick

What is everyone’s thoughts on M Crouch? 480k odd seems good trade for Fyfe??

BlueBaggerJosh

Heppell or Crouch for Fyfe? Both very cheap for what they can deliver and determined to will their team into finals contention.

Ja191

i brought in crouch

Dry

Heppell is a horrible option, is averaging 99 and has never averaged enough to SC relevant

Kyle

Thoughts on Kelly in for fyfe?

BlueBaggerJosh

Can't go wrong

Yeahnahyeah

Crisp and Crouch or Lloyd and Shuey?

BlueBaggerJosh

1st option easily

Cobee Bear

Dies anyone know if Patch and Lek are planning to RE-record the podcast? Need my fix!

dontblushbaby

Fyfe – 4 – 5 weeks, Sandi – 3 weeks – Source – SEN just now

ZzZCalintZzZ

Melbourne should destroy Freo right?

Sc_Wow

Gawn should

Rabbits16

2,375 this week, moved up 4,501 places to a total rank of 15,296. what to do with Fyfe? hold or put ahern / higgins in as cover?

ZzZCalintZzZ

If you have 3 or less trades you gotta hold out I think, but for Coaches inside top 200 gotta continue to gamble. Still 8 games to go and the way the season has gone the next 4 rounds "could" eat up another 2 trades. Be wary

People with 4 or more trades have the luxury to trade Fyfe

Defying_Madness

think even with 3 or less trades you have no choice. 4-5 is way too long

ZzZCalintZzZ

agree only if you have no premium on the bench as pure M9 or an M9/F7 swing. If you do though but still 3 or less it's a needless risk to burn that trade. Leaves coaches with 2 trades for 8 rounds yikes

Ja191

I think we have to trade sadly 4-5 weeks is too long to hold

ZzZCalintZzZ

agree 3 weeks is the max 4 is way too long and think Freo will not be in a hurry to bring him back seeing as they won't be fighting for top 8.

Crow94

Have to trade. Way to long to be holding…

Da_Boysh

i went Higgins

Crow94

4-5 weeks. F#CK!!! And will probably have a 0 this week with Heeney out also….

neil demons delight

Tim Smith well in the mix this week. Weideman given his chance NDD

NoLanguage

Hope so NDD with Heeney and Battle out