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CAPTAIN McCAPTAINFACE Round 11

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Let’s get straight into it, community!

SYDNEY vs CARLTON
SCG, 7.50PM

Listen here, pipsqueak. Yeah, you, Lance BLOODY Franklin. I gave you a spray on the podcast and I’m going to give you another one here. You were supposed to score 160, not 60. You weren’t even on Harris Andrews, you had Darcy flipping Gardiner for company. I mean, come on. If you don’t score 150 against the Blues on your home turf on the big stage of Friday night, I may just trade you back out in disgust. I mean are you even for real if you can’t knock out a VC score against the Blues?

Patrick Cripps goes orright, I guess. Averaging 117 for the season, and pumps out 108 against the Swans when he plays them – on a tight SCG ground the safe money would be on him exceeding that by some way. Similarly, if you’ve got Josh P Kennedy, he may be another option, but after 109 and 108 in his past two I’d put him behind other options tonight.

Similarly, if you’ve got THE KRUUUEEEEZ, it’s time to use the Kreuz. Has scores of 127 and 139 in his past three games, and a contested game will really suit his scoring.

 

WESTERN BULLDOGS vs MELBOURNE
Marveltihad Stadium Thing, 1.10PM

Jack Macrae had a quiet week against the Pies. He had 30 touches but only six of them were contested, and on top of that he only picked up four tackles. Will he improve against the Dees? You’d think so. Will he be tagged? Yeah look probably. Will I VC him? Yeah, nah. He’s projected to score 134, and if anyone scores from the Dogs it’s him, but I’m not feeling it.

What I am feeling though is Max Gawn. After forgetting to put him on the list last week because I’m not very smart, I ended up captaining him for a mildly disappointing 117. Under the roof at whatever they’re calling it-dome this week, he could rack up a lot of points, not just in hitouts but also running forward and around the ground against Tom Boyd/Jordan Roughead/Tim English/etc. Maybe.

 

HAWTHORN vs PORT ADELAIDE
University of Tasmania Stadium, 2.10PM

Midfield jet Tom Mitchell would be just about the only player I’d be looking at this week for a VC option in this game. He’s good at football. Beyond that, as I spoke about in this week’s podcast, Robbie Gray will be someone to pick and choose as a VC option and this is a week to opt out.

Tom Rockliff hasn’t proven he deserves any sort of VC opportunity, while James Sicily is too fickle for my liking – he could be an option for those of you who feel a little bit dicier with your VC selections, but his last two scores against the Power are 54 and 38.

 

GOLD COAST SUNS vs GEELONG CATS
Metricon Stadium, 4.35PM

After his 133 on the weekend, Patrick Dangerfield is surely on people’s lips as not just a huge trade-in target, but also as a captaincy option. 137, 114 and 133 in his past three weeks seems to indicate he is back, and I can’t see the Suns doing much to stop him. The only thing that may stop him is injury to Esava Ratugolea – make sure you keep an eye on the teams. If they bring in another midfielder, my money would be on Danger, Gay Ablett or both spending significant minutes forward. Against the Suns both could still knock out 140, but I’d be more cautious.

If both of them play forward, it could open the door for Joel Selwood to reverse his run of poor form, but I wouldn’t be holding my breath. In the same vein, I wouldn’t be looking at anyone from the Suns as a captaincy option.

 

ESSENDON vs RICHMOND
MCG, 7.20PM

And to think Essendon had found some form. RIP form, round eight to round 10. Dustin Martin still hasn’t exploded back into form – is this the week he does? I mean I hope not – both because Essendon will be stuffed if he fires, and I can’t fit him into my side until after his bye so I hope he stays very, very cheap.

Elsewhere in this game, Zach Merrett is an option. I don’t know if he’s a good one, so I’d be avoiding him. No-one else in this game tickles my fancy – not The Nank, not Trent Cotchin, not Michael Hurley – assuming he’s named. Pass, pass, pass.

 

WEST COAST vs ST KILDA
Optus Stadium, 8.10PM

If you’re one of the sneaky buggers bringing in Andrew Gaff – I wouldn’t captain him. Coming off a 135 against the Hawks, this season’s Mr Consistent has six scores between 100 and 115 and two 115+s. While that ratio excites me from a trading perspective, it does not from a captaincy one. If you’re going with an Eagle, make it Jack Darling despite his poor score last week.132, 125, 181 and 81 are his last four scores and by gum what you wouldn’t give to have three of them.

From the Saints, Jimmy Webster is your best bet but I wouldn’t be putting my captain’s armband on him.

 

NORTH MELBOURNE vs BRISBANE
Etihad Stadium, 1.10PM

The tale of two Daynes. Dayne Beams and Dayne Zorko: Ben Jacobs will go to one and the other will score 140. Which one is which? I don’t profess to know, but smart money would be on Zorko getting the tag and Beams getting off the chain. That said, Fyfe was incredible against Jacobs so maybe he’s not some super stopper? Or maybe Fyfe’s just… you know, really good.

 

COLLINGWOOD vs FREMANTLE
MCG, 3.30PM

Nathaniel Fyfe. That is all.

Well, also Brodie Grundy if Sandi doesn’t play. EDIT: Sandi is missing, Grundy could hit 300 here.

Otherwise: Fyfe. Is. Lyfe.

 

ADELAIDE vs GWS
Adelaide Oval, 4.40PM

This was a highly anticipated clash a few months ago, before both sides were hit by big injuries and sort of turned a bit bad. Or a lot bad. Somehow both of these teams have lost to Essendon, which tells you just how bad they are.

In terms of Supercoach options, Stephen Coniglio obviously enjoys having Josh Kelly in the side – Cogs would be the only option from this game I’d even have a look at.

Who are you going with this week, community? Who have I missed?

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redherringfc

Gawn into Fyfe this week. Pretty sure it’ll be a popular combo.

BrownlowBoy

Gawn into Grundy for those who have him.

neil demons delight

Got to be Gawn and Tich surely Patch well done as well mate gives us an insight cheers NDD

Beezneez

Think you would have to make that call before halftime of the Melbourne game.

Beezneez

Misunderstood. Thought you were talking about vc loophole but guess you're meaning for C. Ebert may go to Mitchell.

Ja191

Thanks patch but didn’t know gaz swung that way

Johnny

Are Oliver owners worried with the dip in his scores? Has his role in the team changed or is he just having a lean run?

seen_burns

Broke his finger 2 or 3 weeks ago so that's probably still affecting him

Sc_Wow

Nah have a look at the stats he performed above his average last week

DavidC

Maybe Brayshaw moving into the mids has taken some of his points.

redherringfc

not concerned

Sc_Wow

Game time was down first week with the broken finger spent the last 10 on the bench, played well against the crows was unlucky not to ton up

Northernsoul74

I’m weighing up Oliver as my M8 final upgrade.

Sc_Wow

Vs who? I think Oliver is right up there and is a solid option

Derek

Spent a fair amount of time on bench or out of the game once it was safe. Gawn did same. Very annoying.

TRIGGA_HAPPY

Viney is getting some if his hta's and from there clearances/possessions.

Sc_Wow

Is he though? Oliver still had 31 touches on the weekend and 10 clearences. Both higher than his season average

Finnius

great point wow. I think that the only reason Oliver's score wasn't higher is the fact that they had to split the scores across ALL the Dees who did well on the weekend.

Russty_

Agree Finn, reckon the Dees feasted on the available points against a lacklustre and disinterested Crows squad.
I think Oliver will get back to scoring big again soon, his sore finger is probably still holding him back a bit from going full bore.

Demonlover84

Agree, Oliver's game was a 120 normally, but the points were just spread across too many. Gus's game wass easily a 150+ instead of the 130 he got as well.

Jack

Nah I think if anything his dip is down to his teammates playing so well and only so many points on offer.
Statistically he had a very good game last week, but I think he started a little slow so the weighted system of SC hurt him.

Defying_Madness

Gawn into Grundy for me

Seeker

FYI: Max Gawn has an average of 60.2 and a high of 92 against the bulldogs…For what its worth I think that changes this week

Sc_Wow

I think he will be on 60 at quarter time, and 92 at the half this week

DacZawson

Don't think anyone is likely to beat Goldy's record of 80 hitouts but Gawny might be pushing top 5 calculations this week.
Gawn holds the 5th most in a game at 66.

theRealPod

Agree Seeker. Gawn vs nobody looks good for the bearded one.

Cpt

Dogs will shark Gawns hitouts all night. May contribute to lower scores.

BockChoy

I thought Gawn suffered a little last week with the game not being of a contested type nature. While 114 isn't bad, he did miss out on getting follow up possessions and tackles in the contest and wasn't used too much around the ground.

Mystic_Mac

Franklin into Fyfe for me.

Sc_Wow

You not have Gawn or trying something different?

Derek

Just C Gawn for me. No VC needed.

Mystic_Mac

Trying something different wow, pretty far back at the minute.

Sc_Wow

Fair enough, franklin could go nuts. I’d be putting it on Jjk if he was playing before Gawn. Not sure who’s going to actually defend for the saints this week

Derek

I am so close to getting JJK this week. Go early because of the saints match up.

Swans2012

He's on my list too derek….will score 140plus at some point soon

Jack

Either Gawn or Macrae into Danger.

theRealPod

Hey Jack, I reckon they'll shut Macrae down this week. The Dees have a few options to go to him. Gawn & Danger looks solid.

neil demons delight

Birnie Vince will probably get him but don't be surprised if Bugg fronts him Already the Dees want to rest a couple from the Alice game which took its toll Hunt and Bugg in for mine

Ja191

i reckon jones might go to him. done a job on mitchel and dusty i believe

Derek

Gawn and Oliver all ready had their tests. Most of the 3rd quarter when game was safe.

Derek

Rests

Keenbutclueless

Kreuzer into Gawn for me. Love a great Friday night VC option.

BloodyFranklin

Gay Ablett 🤣

theRealPod

Gawn VC and Danger C. You'd think one of them will smash out a mammoth one.

Daniel

Who should I trade out to get in Smith this week out of ZGL and Mutch? Just brought in mutch 2 weeks ago and still has cash to make, but idk if he gets a game soon, while zgl looks to have peaked in price, unless he can go big this week. They both share the rd13 bye, trading mutch means moving spargo to my mid bench, while trading zgl allows spargo to be my fwd emg, alongside guelfi. Thoughts?

JohnDJ59

ZGL

Duckky

Mutch injured … nagging headaches (but no concussion according to EFC) so unlikely to be selected this week. However – Colyer, McNiece and Green are pressing for selection means that Much's JS is shaky.

HarryH76

Seems Walters and Rocky are the hot topics this week. Thought a lot about this but have to pass on both. I get Rocky could be good for some, but I already have a full midfield and in case of injury I'd rather use DPP swing than have Rocky sitting on the pine doing nothing. As for Walters, just not trusting that knee. I'm also thinking ahead that if Freo are out of the finals race, Ross the Boss may prematurely end his season for surgery.

Passing on both.

theRealPod

I'm thinking the same about Walters knee, stearing clear.

Derek

It’s the r14 bye as well

Ahmad rubas

I'll be jumping on rocky as a M8 for now and good coverage for the byes at a bargain price.
I also like the look of Walters as I think there is more chance of Walters being a top 6 forward from now than rocky being a top 8 midfielder from now but the Walters round 14 bye is what swings it to rocky for me

Sc_Wow

Gonna be able to move rocky from m8 though? Byes are 3 rounds, it’s still a long season ahead

TIGESB2B

If Rocky gets a couple more decent scores, he can more easily be upgraded to a full premo down the track, if needed.

Ahmad rubas

Yeah rocky becomes a problem if he is M8 at end of byes and he could easily breakdown as well just hoping he does well and I can push him to M9 after the byes

Russty_

Vc and c for me this week will be Gawny into Grundy.
Gawn against Boyd and or Campbell, he should smash em the way Boyd got smashed last week by Grundy.
Hopefully Smith doesn't help out Gawn too much in the Ruck to take points away.
And Grundy against Apeness, haven't seen him play but you'd have to think he'll get smashed by Grundy.

SC_Sixty6

Grundy into Fyfe!

Finnius

don't they play in the same game?

hedski

Cheers Patch McPatchface, probs Gawn into Danger for me, still tossing up the Walters inclusion, I won't go near Rocky cos of past burns/injury worries, but Sonny's knee is causing me the same head aches…

Russty_

Hey hedski, he's also never averaged over 88 in his whole career, may be averaging 93 now but for how long?
He's kinda Buddy-like with his highs and lows except Buddy is better and usually ends up averaging more.
It's not just Walters' Knee peeps should be thinking about, it's his historical lack of premo scoring on a regular basis and establishing a reliable average.

Ja191

yeah but he's always played forward. Half way through last year he had a role change playing a lot more mid. Can really only judge his scores from then which have been very consistent. I don't have a doubt that he won't average 95-100+ from here on out just that bloody knee

SC_Sixty6

Hey Patch! Go easy on my team please! The crows aren't that bad…..just alot of injuries and a shit coach that can't change a gameplan.

Russty_

What was Cam Ellis Spudman's excuse on the weekend?…looked like he was just loitering on the fringes of the pack half the time , was going well for me up until then averaging 100 in his previous 6 games but his days are numbered in my team now, hopefully he can not drop a butt load of cash before his bye.

Sam

Rockliff, Boak or Gray?

Jace

or Westhoff

JohnDJ59

Boak for me, looking at round 13 for that trade in.

Jack

I’m a big Robbie Gray fan, I reckon he could outscore the other 2 even playing as a forward, but with enormous upside if he goes back to mid. So gray for me, perhaps a little overpriced though if playing forward

seen_burns

Thoughts on Heath Shaw, burnt alot of us last year but seems like his role changed against Essendon and was the main player out of the backline. Or just wait for another player like Howe to drop in price.

Swans2012

The burns are too deep for me….never again list

Russty_

He's doing much better this year than last year Burns but might be better to look at someone younger, who's not biding his time until the inevitable end.

Derek

I’ve had him from the start, so have kept a close eye. He has played a lot better than his scores indicated. Always did a few poor things every game that killed his score.

Forgot which game, but kicked 2 out on full within 60 seconds, both just missing target and both close line-balls. Dropped 12 pts instead of going up 12pts. That’s was 24pts. Also got a couple of rough Deliberate outs.

Last week everything went his way.

Russty_

Hey peeps, I'm thinking of keeping Naughton for the duration, my thinking is that he already lost 13k after round 8, and will lose $18k and 20k respectively in round 11 and 13 assuming he doesn't hit his breakevens of 99 and 104 which is highly likely.
This will make his price $251K but is that really such a bad thing when you're planning to keep them for the rest of the year?
Round 14 his breakeven goes back to 33 again and then 40 etc, this is all assuming he's scored 59 every week previous.
So realistically, he'll end up at in the high 200's again and will have been providing cover the whole time barring round 12.
I don't need to trade him out for the money but will probably want to later in the season as a luxury upgrade or injury replacement.
I think sometimes patience is a virtue and it's better to just wait and see what happens, it's too easy to run out of trades in SC and stuff your season into oblivion.

So what do you think about hanging onto Naughton rather than going for rooks like Rice and Austin?..can't see much upside really in any Saints.

neil demons delight

I really rate this kid Russty.It's a no brainer talent wise and the others play for a crap team. Naughton will only get better I think it's a smart move mate

Russty_

Thanks Neil…I think there's more upside to keeping him than trading him, but others might need to do different depending on their situation.

JohnDJ59

Hey Russty I traded out Naughton in round 9, I couldn't afford having non playing players in my defence, if all your defenders on field are playing and you have cover ie Naughton this week, go for it.

Russty_

Hey John, you did what you needed to do mate, beats copping a donut for sure.

Browncow

Makes sense Russty. I am planning to keep him as a perma-sub unless Austin bangs out another score next week.

Wes

How many players should we be looking at having for every bye rd?

Right now (with future trades included) I have 21, 19, 19 playing each rd (Premiums: 15, 16, 15)

Is this a good amount?

Keenbutclueless

This is very strong on all counts. The same question was asked on a previous thread a little while back, and had quite a few responses. Your numbers sit well compared to those

Swans2012

Yep agreed good numbers, only rookie carnage could derail you

The Ranger

Love ya work Patch, thanks.
No bloody idea on what I'm doing with the VC/C this week…too many bloody options.
Macrae? Danger? Gawn? Titch?
It was a lot easier when there was just The Bald Genius and then everyone else!

TOPHAWK1

Gawn into Fyfe even with Sandi out this week.

Russty_

Real dead zone in here tonight…maybe 4 random people, wonder what's keeping people away?, ok, I'm out too cause it feels like a ghost town, might check back in a bit later.

Sc_Wow

Wednesday is bit of a dead day for SC. Inbetween injuries and teams. Will be back on tomorrow!

Blaknight

Gawn into Darling this week for me.

hey

Who's the better option, Franklin or Walters, both cheapish, same bye and both probably top 6 fwds

Russty_

Hey…hey, it's Wednesday!…gotta say mate, I'd advise against both for now, until you know how their respective injuries pan out.

Dav

Is having Fyfe, Mundy and Walters too many free midfielders?

Russty_

Having 3 free midfielders can be risky, there's always the risk of them running, better off with the slaves who are already broken. 🙂

Dav

Whoops, obviously meant to say Freo

Russty_

Hi Dav, just kidding mate, in that case, maybe try and find a way to get Walters and Mundy into the fwd line, hopefully you don't have too many out in rd 14 or are you just writing it off as a loss?

Dav

I have Fyfe in my Mid and Mundy in my Fwd line but I was wondering if getting Walters means I have too many Freo players who all play in the midfield for their team

JohnDJ59

Walters into the fwds is a good move if you think he will last the season out with his knee.

Russty_

Agree with John Dav, if Mundy and Walters are in your fwd line, no problem if you feel they can go the distance from here.

Dav

So already having Fyfe and Mundy shouldn't effect my decision on if I get Walters or not?

Russty_

Not at all mate, doesn't matter if they are dpp's playing forward, depends on your round 14 bye though cause they'll all miss that week.
Fyfe is the only one of those 3 who should be in the midfield.

Derek

Freo have 4 if last 5 in Perth.

Rick Grimes

Got a feeling JJK is going to come home like a freight train. Cheap as and building into it.

Russty_

I'm gonna keep a close eye on his scores in the coming weeks Rick…could be the value pick of the year.

Sc_Wow

He’s definitely value

Rick Grimes

I reckon he's good for 150 this week. The Saints, at home, c'mon!!

Sc_Wow

Yep who’s gonna to man the dynamic duo? Maybe Webster will have to be accountable this week

Russty_

Rice and Austin mate…yeah right I think I'm just dreaming…put the C on Kennedy!

Sc_Wow

Can only go a VC on him. If I had Grundy that would be locked

Russty_

Have you got anyone you could loophole if you vc Kennedy and go Fyfe C?

Sc_Wow

Yeah not sure if he’s a lock without Sandi

Russty_

Many thought he'd be a dud score last week too getting tagged by Jacobs…Jacobs Schmacobs lol

Sc_Wow

True, and jjk could kick 20

DavidSA

He would have to go 110 minimum
Will be a game where 7 Eagles ton with 2 going over 130 easily
Who knows he might be the 1 of 2 who go over 130

TheGreatBozza

Gawn into Grundy..trust the ruck process

Russty_

Solid choice Bozza, doing the same here.

DavidSA

I'm Gawn to Yeo just have a funny feeling with Yeo but of course a Gawn 135+ will stop the gamble

Russty_

You crazy benchpressing bastard!

Tyruddanaut

FRANklin to Danger

dontblushbaby

Angus Brayshaw Def / Mid @ 423k ,BE 19 – is he looking like being a break out player for the second half the season ? ,thoughts anyone ?

The Ranger

Been keeping an eye on him all year but I don't think I'll take the risk yet, maybe next year.
Might make a handy D7/M9 type if anyone can make that work.

JohnDJ59

I like him dbb, if I had more trades up my sleeve I would be getting him in, but I also feel two weeks ago was the time for that trade.

Whitey

Melbourne have been beating up on some ordinary efforts/sides in the last couple of weeks. Interesting to see what he can do against a good side.

JohnDJ59

The Crows did make the GF last year and are in the eight.

Russty_

Dees for the flag this year John!…why the hell not?….they're better than Richmond were last year already.

JohnDJ59

Just hoping for a top 4 finish or even just making the finals at this stage Russty, we had a bit of a run last year as well and missed out.

Russty_

Too much talent in your side this year mate I feel and it's all coming together at the right time, and timing is important.
Someone's doing something right there this year and in the few years past in the recruiting department and it's exciting times ahead for the Dees I reckon.

JohnDJ59

It would be a dream come true and for Jonesy's sake as well after what he's had to go through, 250 games this weekend, pity it couldn't have been a week later at the G against the Pies.

neil demons delight

Spot on John The old enemy never forgiven them for 1958 bloody Murray Weideman and his 2 big goals Nothing better than beating the woods by a point after the siren NDD

Shake_n_Bake_

Cmon Neil beating my pies after the siren by a pt!! P.s im on the Dees bandwagon!

TRIGGA_HAPPY

Paul Roos genius.
Worth every cent.

neil demons delight

you are a very intelligent man Russty

Russty_

Hey Neil mate, just rooting for the underdogs this year mate, and your Dees are looking good, was heartbreaking last year seeing them miss the top 8 by the smallest of percentages, hopefully this year they give it a good old crack at the chocolates!

Cpt

My doggies are starting their next 62 yr re-build. I’m hoping for a Dee’s Premiership this year.

JohnDJ59

Can't see any side tagging him with Clarry, Viney, Jones ahead of him in the pecking order.

Derek

He has been getting good midfield time and I thought once Viney was back he would be pushed out. Doesn’t seem to have happened, Oetracca’s midfield time suffered more.

He might be perm midfield at Dees. Not bad having Gawn tapping them down to him.

I had Mills, and to avoid two donuts in defence last week did a sideways to McGrath. Was tossing up McGrath and Brayshaw, only cost me 80pts so far.

JohnDJ59

Ouch

Derek

McGrath needed the run and his TOG was low. I can see him playing a lot of midfield in second half of year. Sneaky POD when back to full fitness

Sandyf62

If I wasn't getting in Heeney and Smith, I would have been trading Angus in, I looked at him last week, but went with Lloyd and Ryan, there always seems to be other players in front of him, would make a good POD, JS is very good, the Dees love him and he has dpp.

JohnDJ59

Go on Sandy get him in instead of Heeney, you can get him in after the byes, like you said Angus has JS, DPP and would be a POD.

Sandyf62

Done, I like the look of him in my def, plus I now have swings on all lines, not counting ruck, with Angus, Finlayson, Spargo, Higgins and Fogarty.

Eddy

Who to bring in this week Walters or Rockliff (Will probably be bringing the other in next week)

Derek

Problem with Rocky is he takes up a valuable midfield position. If you have him at M8 scoring 95-100 instead of a Dusty scoring 115-120, you will be losing ground.

Only get him if;

A) you think he will be a top 10 midfielder for rest of year

B) you have very little team value, under $12m, and you are in serious need of value players.

C) you have plenty of trades, 19+, and you only hold him over the byes, make a bit of cash and trade him to one of the big boys after their bye. Rocky up $100k, Macrae drops $100k, good trade

D) season is in dis-array and you think ‘what the hell….’ and go the hail marry

I don’t think too many in the top 500 will be risking Rocky.

Eddy

I would be getting Rockliff for bye cover and then moving him to M9 very shortly after the byes (Will probably look at getting Macrae in for my final premo mid spot after byes)

Corey

I’m waiting one more week on Rockliff bringing in Walter and T.Smith
If rocky tons up then look to bring him in next week

Corey

I’m B and C haha

Swans2012

I don't quite have the trades but team is coming together well enough for me to be confident of parking rocky at m9, so someone with rockys ceiling as a sub 400k m9 is a no brainer for me…

Connor

Derek why do you see team value of such importance – I see you make fairly regular comments about it! I would have thought that premo's value fluctuates regularly throughout the year (ie. Fyfe is currently my only MID over $580k).
Just interested in why you see it as so important??

Derek

over the years I’ve played SC, one thing has always been true, on average the higher the rank, the higher the team value. Some will say the value will follow the rank, i think it the other way. Build a team with high value and the points and rank will follow.

There will always be exceptions, but generally a higher valued team will score better than a low value.

Have a look at the top 20 ranked players for this year, most are well over $13mil. Around 1,000 ranked it drops to $12.5mil. Logic says a team valued at $13mil will score better than a team ranked $12.5mil, this is why it becomes harder and harder for teams ranked outside top 100 to catch the leaders from about now onwards.

Let’s say you are aiming for full premium. On average your premiums will be $525k each x22 = $11.55mil plus a decent bench of $2mil. Total is $13.55mil.

Ideally we aim for full premium by r15.

If your team value is only say $12mil, you will struggle to fill those last few premium places and be left with Brodie Smith and Daniel Rich in your team trying to compete against teams with Docherty and Simpson.

You don’t really notice the team value until you run out of cash and still a couple of Real Premiums short and you then regret buying Macrae for $720k

The way this game is designed, the value of your team will determine your scores.

Most of your trades are made to increase value.

I ponder this slot. What is a trade worth?

If you put aside 10 trades for rookies, injuries, emergencies etc, it leaves us 20 trades to get to full premium. Say full premium is $13.55mil, it means that you use 20 trades to make $3.55mil. Works out about $175k per trade. Old Oker will tell you a trade is worth $175k.

Just my thoughts

Jack

Interesting thoughts Derek. I always said a good trade will earn you 200k or 200 points, but I guess if you add in injury trades, 175k (or even 150k) is more realistic.

Also interesting that you say Round 15 for full premium. Most teams on here seem to be hitting it in the next week or two. I'm gonna be around Round 14 I think. I feel I'm struggling to keep up with more advanced teams than mine and can't wait for the byes to come to catch up.
Do you think teams that to fall premo by say Round 15 might come home harder than teams that upgraded earlier?

Derek

There could be a r14 bye player you will pick up after his bye to finish your team.

Any sooner you are kidding yourself with a “premium” or 2

Jordan

Westhoff or gray

Russty_

I reckon Westhoff Jordan for the fact that he's been solid this year and Paddy still has archilles injury management which means the hoff will pick up extra points helping out in the ruck…and not sure yet how much Gray will play mid or fwd.

DavidSA

I would rather punch Gray because he is smaller and can go further in distance after the punch

Ricardo

HOFF. Ryder still struggling and Gray has been playing forward last couple of weeks.

Bill

Do we get 3 trades next week?

JohnDJ59

Round 12,13 and 14

Finnius

yup

Jono

I'm going to VC Danger and the C on Fyfe!!

My team is as follows;

Defenders; Laird,Yeo,Hurley,Tuohy, Witherden and Coffield. (Naughton and Redman)

Mids: Dangerfield,Dusty,Mitchell,Fyfe,Higgins,M.Robinson,Phillips and Spargo. (Garlett,Barry,England)

Rucks: Gawn and Nic Nat (Cameron)

Forwards; McLean,Buddy,Walters,D.Smith,Billings and Fritsch. (Rayner and Crowden)

Russty_

Nice one Jono…Danger into Fyfe is a solid option mate, good luck.

Jono

I have $426,100k in the bank along with 16 trades!!

Jordan

Trade lachie Murphy or Dom Barry?
Both are shit

DavidC

Murph might be back this week, get rid of Barry.

Shake_n_Bake_

Im trading both

Finnius

I don't think you get enough value out of them though. Surely you'd rather trade those who are maxed out and get enough cash to make an upgrade. I see a trade as worth at least 150k, so not worth it for me at this point. All they need is two more games and 70 and there is 50k more.

Shake_n_Bake_

I just want warm body’s playing Finnius especially over the byes. I just cant see the other 2 getting a game. Im bringing in Rice and Smith at the end of rd 11 l would av made $150k and with the other 2 projected rises another $120k Not going to sit on my hands waiting for Murphy & Barry to maybe get another go.

Dale

I traded Barry last week to Phillips. As you said Shake n bake warm bodies are vital across the byes. In your situation Jordan maybe murphy purely because u have Ridley & rice on the bubble. Unless u can offload Barry swing a forward in the guts & grab T.smith. If so do that!

Shake_n_Bake_

Sorry Murphy to Rice Garlett to Smith.

Dale

Looks solid. Warm bodies are vital.

Sandyf62

Barry, at least Murphy was an emergency last weekend.

Trades

Menegola or Westhoff ROS

PeteB

What’s considered the minimum average score of a must have rookie after 2 rounds ? 70plus ?

Jack

I’d say 60 but you can’t be too picky because you pretty much need to take a rookie every week from about round 5 to 13 so you take what’s on offer.
Other factors must come into play to. For example although Rice has averaged 60 odd points he is mature aged and plays for St.Kilda so job security should be solid

TommyC99

Thoughts on bringing in JJK? Probably best to wait a week but liking his matchup at home against the saints. It’s either him or Rocky for me this week!

Derek

I’m usually against KPP. But you can’t ignore his value.

I’ve been quietly talking about him for a couple of weeks, especially with all the attention Darling is attracting.

If it wasn’t Saints he was playing this week I would wait until after his bye and re-assess in 2 weeks. But this might be THE week.

TommyC99

Yeah might go JJK this week and wait a week on Rocky to reassess. I need a bit of a POD move to gain some rank, we all know what he’s capable of

TIGESB2B

Gawn into Fyfe, or Grundy.
Gone Ratugolea to Smith, J. Graham to Rocky, for bye cover. Hopefully Rocky tons up a few more times and fattens up for full premo-ing.

Cpt

How many trades you got?

20 for me. 22 if I reverse trades.

My Team:
B: Yeo, Laird, Sicily, Savage, Doedee, Richards (Keefe, Ridley)
M: Danger, T’itch, Oliver, Bont, Fyfe, Dusty, Cripps, Whitfield (Holman,Crowden, Phillips)
R: Gawn, Grundy (Olango)
F: McLean, Lambert, D.Smith, Heeney, Fritz, Smith, Spargo, Garlett)

Derek

I think you have this thing in the bag. How are you going to spend your prize money?

Seriously, what is your rank?

Cpt

Thanks. I’m ranked just inside 2k.

Just traded Sandi (Rested – tbc) for Grundy and Barry for Smith.

I’ll be targeting and extra Premo on each line to loophole ether Friday night or 1st game Saturday. Well, that’s my hope.

Dildor

Where did you buy your extra trades from, ill give you $15 and a slice of ham for 2.

Cpt

Haven’t had too many issues or injuries this year and lucky to select reasonable starting side:

Trades so far;

ROUND 11
OUT
Sandilands ($536,700)
IN
Grundy ($620,400)
OUT
Fritsch ($369,000)
IN
Smith ($123,900)
ROUND 10
OUT
Kelly ($429,200)
IN
Ridley ($123,900)
OUT
Murray ($334,000)
IN
Oliver ($573,500)
ROUND 9
OUT
Finlayson ($345,300)
IN
Yeo ($531,300)
OUT
Naughton ($289,900)
IN
Phillips ($123,900)
ROUND 7
OUT
Stephenson ($322,600)
IN
Spargo ($117,300)
OUT
Banfield ($269,900)
IN
Cripps ($573,500)
ROUND 4
OUT
Ryan ($194,100)
IN
Crowden ($117,300)
OUT
Murphy ($153,600)
IN
Richards ($135,300)

Cpt

Gee that loaded differently then I typed it. Sorry.

Russty_

Just cut n paste it next time mate, saves time too. Good side, well done.

John

Gawn into Danger or Danger into Fyfe?

Dildor

Both so tempting, i was thinking gawn to danger but the Danger Fyfe combo really tickles my fancy. Danger v GC and Fyfe v Collingwood, ones bound to go HUGE

Keenbutclueless

Like many here, have had a good look at Rocky, but after initial enthusiasm have passed. Bringing in Dusty instead.

Having done all my bye planning, I can either run with a team that has Hibberd, Zerrett and Lambert or upgrade them to Simpson, Gaff and Boak.

If I don’t upgrade any, my byes are 15/21, 13/19 and 16/21. It will leave me with 6 trades and 100k

If I do upgrade, my byes are 15/21, 14/20 and 17/22. But I will only have 3 trades left.

My bench cover is reasonable in both scenarios. At worst I have Austin, Murphy, Giro, Mutch (new rook – maybe O’Connor), Smith and Ahern.

Whilst I know 3 trades is probably light, I am enticed by having a genuine premium side that is legitimately worth 2500 a week if all on the park.

Currently ranked about 3k and play for rank, but keep an interest in leagues.

So, go all out and risk the crash and burn, or keep some faith in the original choices and ride them for a whole, and if I still have trades, upgrade them later?

neil demons delight

I know which three I would rather Keen but gee 3 trades is too low Great to have a real prem side. I wont make that but will have Fritz and SPP PLUS 10 trades Could trade SPP but definitely 1 short. Leagues for me good luck keen NDD

Keenbutclueless

Thanks Neil. Maybe one of Hibberd or Zerrett in Round 13, because I am a little light for the round 13 bye and keep 5 trades.

neil demons delight

Sounds right Hibberd looked good in the Alice. I got rid of him that week and kept Shaw on WoW'S advice .thanks for the 149 but Hibbo might end up the better. . 5 trades might be enough

JohnDJ59

I'd keep Hibbo Keen, I traded him out a few weeks back for Hurley who spat out a 66 and got himself injured,so that's one trade I wish I could have back.

Keenbutclueless

thanks John. Picked Hibberd over Simpson at the start of the year and was prepared to pay that 30k extra. I really didn’t expect Simpson to have a great year. So it would really hurt to fork out 100k extra for someone I could have had for 30k less.

JohnDJ59

When you say it like that it would be even harder to do the trade, Simmo will be a top 8 defender, but there is a big difference between his good and bad.

DavidC

3 trades?? RIP.

Noah

Which 2 Out? Higgins, T Kelly or ZGL?

Dale

Kelly & ZGL

Chicken

Cripps into Gawn, gawn into grundy or cripps into grundy

Florence Maxwell

This site has fallen along way this year. Homophobic jokes about 'Gay Ablett' aren't cool or funny. Have some maturity please. Very disappointed Patch.

The Ranger

That's not a joke Florence. It's a typo.

Dale

Lighten up floz everybody makes typos. Gary is Happily Married so therefore why would patch make a gay joke about him. It wouldn’t have been deliberate

Jack

Typo Florence. Let us know if you find anything else politically incorrect because I didn't even notice that one

Mick

How did you possibly think that was a homophobic slur? It doesn’t even remotely read like a joke. Move on.

DEES NUTS R BIG

You're a loser with nothing better to do than have a sook about nothing, grow up!

Florence Maxwell

Jock would be spinning in his grave if he could see the state of this website now

DavidC

Did Jock pass?

Davo

haha, they are out there, just making sure this site is politically correct. Like living in a police state.

Rick Grimes

Haha, chucking a sook over a typo. Jock and co were about as politically correct as Roseanne Barr, so I seriously doubt they'd have any issue with the co tent of the site. Take a chill pill and enjoy life.

neil demons delight

As the guys said typo nothing to it. It could easily have this response. The site is much better now and the advice tops NDD

Dildor

This may be the greatest troll in recent history

Dale

Is going to Cripps this week a bad move with him having a Rd12 bye? Should I just wait a week post bye

seen_burns

Might aswell wait after the bye, also he was pretty sore after the Geelong game

Jason

Hold off the week dale. Grab him post bye

Noah

Who are the top 3 forwrads?

seen_burns

McLean, Heeney, Gray/Darling

DacZawson

Can’t see Gray being top 3 from here on

theRealPod

I was pretty good at CHF, even won league most goals one year.

Sandyf62

McLean, Heeney, Hogan/Darling

hedski

McLean, Heeney and Menagola from here onwards.

Shake_n_Bake_

Mihocek to play this weekend.

Good listening

SEN just announced by Wallace

Marcus

Thoughts on waiting a week on Rockliff?
Would be my M9 anyway and should only go up 30k max

Dildor

Exactly what im doing, seems like a decent option, it means i can get in Smith which will rise around 70, which if im planning on trading out smith at some point would net more at least 40k more than passing on him