AROUND THE GROUNDS with Barron von Crow

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Howdy everyone, Barron Von Crow here bringing you another edition of Around the Ground. It’s Round 11, which means we’re inching close to the bye rounds kicking in, which is when we will see a flurry of trades being made for a lot of sides as they upgrade rookies to premium selections. That’ll be good for a lot of our sides, even with the downgrade options looking pretty slim at the moment, but hopefully we can find some more gold in the second half of the season like we did in the first half. So let’s go take a look and see what happened in Round 10 and what’s potentially on offer for Round 11.

Around the Grounds



Carlton suffered another loss, going down to Geelong 73-45. Paddy Dow had a quality game with 18 disposals, 6 marks and 6 tackles for 72 SCPoints, Cam O’Shea had 12 disposals, 2 marks and 6 tackles for 59 SCPoints, Lochie O’Brien had 11 disposals, 2 marks and 3 tackles for 36 SCPoints, Pat Kerr had 9 disposals, 3 marks and kicked 1.2 for 56 SCPoints and Harry McKay had 6 disposals and kicked 1.1 for 51 SCPoints.

Carlton suffered a big loss against Essendon in the VFL, losing 128-55. Jarrod Garlett had 18 disposals, 5 marks and 3 tackles, Angus Schumacher had 11 disposals, 4 marks and 2 tackles and Tom De Koning had 10 disposals, 4 marks and 2 goals.


Collingwood continued their quality form on Friday night, defeating the Western Bulldogs 90-55. Josh Daicos played his first AFL game of 2018 and had 16 disposals, 4 marks and 1 goal, but had 5 clangers which put his score at 45 SCPoints. His starting price is $190,500, so probably doesn’t pop up as an immediate downgrade option as a MID/FWD. Jaidyn Stephenson had 11 disposals, 4 marks, 3 tackles and a goal for 58 SCPoints. He has a BE of 56 this week, so he’ll keep for another week and finally, Flynn Appleby had 11 disposals and 2 marks for 63 SCPoints.

Collingwood defeated Footscray in Round 8 of the VFL, winning 95-63. Callum Brown had 25 disposals, 2 marks, 10 tackles and a goal, Sam Murray had 22 disposals, 8 marks and 6 rebound 50’s and Brody Mihocek had 15 disposals, 8 marks and kicked 2.2.


Essendon won their 2nd game in a row, defeating GWS 95-60. Matt Guelfi had 21 disposals, 4 marks, 5 tackles and 5 rebound 50’s for 68 SCPoints and Jordan Ridley had 9 disposals, 4 marks and 3 tackles for 49 SCPoints.

Essendon defeated the Northern Blues 128-55. Ben McNiece had 30 disposals, 4 marks and 4 tackles, Trent Mynott had 24 disposals, 1 mark and a goal, Mason Redman had 23 disposals, 8 marks and 1.1 and Aaron Francis had 19 disposals, 9 marks and 6 rebound 50’s.


Geelong defeated Carlton in a bit of an ugly game, winning 73-45. Tim Kelly had 15 disposals, 2 marks, 5 clearances and 4 tackles for 57 SCPoints. He lost $27,500 this week and now has a BE of 136. His 3-round average has fallen to 65.3 SCPoints and he’s currently projected to lose another $25K from a projected score of 83, though if he can manage that his price should hopefully stabilize by his bye round in Round 14. Jamaine Jones had 9 disposals and a goal in his AFL debut for 40

SCPoints and Esava Ratugolea had 1 tackle and 2 hitouts for -2 SCPoints but unfortunately suffered a broken ankle early in the game, breaking both his tibia and fibula.

Geelong defeated Williamstown 71-37 in the VFL. Sam Simpson had 32 disposals, 8 marks, 6 tackles and a goal and Gryan Miers had 7 disposals, 2 tackles and 2 goals


Hawthorn were in the game for the most part, but ended up losing to top of the ladder West Coast 75-60. David Mirra had 15 disposals, 6 marks and 3 rebound 50’s for 81 SCPoints and Mitch Lewis had 6 disposals and 1 mark for 22 SCPoints.

The Box Hill Hawks lost to North Melbourne 109-73 in Round 8 of the VFL. Teia Miles had 23 disposals, 8 marks and 6 tackles and Dallas Willsmore had 20 disposals, 6 tackles and 3 rebound 50’s.


Melbourne put in a fantastic effort up in Alice Springs to enter the top 4, demolishing Adelaide 146-55. Bayley Fritsch continued his great form with 24 disposals, 6 marks and 3 goal assists for 87 SCPoints. His BE is at 47 with a 3-round average currently at 90.7 SCPoints, he has the potential to cross the $400K mark by the time Melbourne’s bye in Round 13 rolls around. Charlie Spargo finished with 14 disposals, 9 marks and 4 tackles for 61 SCPoints and Tim Smith had a big game with 19 disposals, 6 marks, 6 tackles, 4 hitouts, 2 goals and 101 SCPoints.

The Casey Scorpions also had a win in the VFL, defeating Port Melbourne 98-83. Declan Keilty had 21 disposals, 9 marks and a goal, Harrison Petty had 15 disposals, 11 marks and 2 rebound 50’s and Lachlan Filipovic had 10 disposals, 2 marks, 3 tackles and 26 hitouts.

North Melbourne

North inched closer to a top 4 spot after defeating Fremantle 86-58 on Sunday afternoon. They did not have any rookie priced players out on the field.

The Roos VFL side defeated the Box Hill Hawks 109-73. Kyron Hayden had 23 disposals, 5 marks, 3 tackles and a goal, while Paul Ahern had 22 disposals, 2 marks, 3 tackles and 6 inside 50’s and Cameron Zurhaar had 18 disposals, 3 marks, 7 tackles, 7 inside 50’s and 4 goals and Nick Larkey booted 5 goals with 13 disposals and 6 marks.


Richmond continued their winning ways, defeating St Kilda 105-77. Jack Higgins returned to the side and had 15 disposals, 5 marks and 2 tackles for 51 SCPoints, while Callum Moore played his 3rd AFL match and his first for 2018 and finished with 14 disposals, 6 marks and 3 behinds for 68 SCPoints. Would have been a good score if he kicked those goals, but you’d have to question if his job security is strong enough to consider.

Richmond defeated Coburg 121-65 in the VFL, Liam Baker had 28 disposals, 2 marks, 3 tackles and a goal, Corey Ellis had 28 disposals and 3 tackles, Mabior Chol had 21 disposals, 6 marks, 5 tackles and 12 hitouts, Noah Balta had 16 disposals, 6 marks and 3 goals and Callum Coleman-Jones had 10 disposals, 5 marks, 5 hitouts and 3 goals.

St Kilda

The Sainters put in an effort, but fell to Richmond 105-77 on Saturday afternoon. Logan Austin played his first ever game for St Kilda after 13 games for Port Adelaide and had a BIG game with 23

disposals, 8 marks and 5 rebound 50’s for 106 SCPoints. He costs $159,700, but I would give him another week, his season averages were 47.8 SCPoints in 11 games for 2016 and 41.5 SCPoints from 2 games in 2017. Ed Phillips had 21 disposals, 3 marks and 5 inside 50’s for 57 SCPoints and Hunter Clark had 17 disposals, 4 marks and a goal for 53 SCPoints. Bailey Rice had 19 disposals, 6 marks and 2 tackles for 68 SCPoints, he’s now on the bubble this week and should be a decent downgrade option down back.

The Sandringham Zebras had a 136-85 win against Werribee in the VFL. Ben Paton had 24 disposals, 3 marks, 5 tackles and a goal and Josh Battle kicked 3.1 with 16 disposals and 5 marks.

Western Bulldogs

The Bulldogs lost to Collingwood on Friday night, being defeated 90-55. Ed Richards won the Round 10 Rising Star nomination after totalling 23 disposals, 4 marks, 4 tackles, 5 inside 50’s and 3 rebound 50’s for 102 SCPoints. That has pushed his BE down to 13 for this week and should see him rise above the $300K mark in time for the Bulldogs Round 12 bye. Billy Gowers finished with 13 disposals, 5 marks and a goal for 49 SCPoints, he lost $8,300 this week and now has a BE of 71 with a 3-round average of 50.3 SCPoints. Roarke Smith played his first game of 2018 with 13 disposals, 5 marks and 4 tackles for 68 SCPoints. He has never played more than 1 game in a season, so it remains to be seen if he’ll get a 2nd.

Footscray lost to Collingwood in the VFL, going down 95-63. Lewis Young had 26 disposals, 13 marks and 6 rebound 50’s.

South Australia


A day Adelaide would rather forget, suffering their worst loss since 2011, losing to Melbourne 146-55. Tom Doedee at least had a good day with 21 disposals, 5 marks and 4 tackles for 104 SCPoints. He has a BE of 28 with a 3-round average of 83.7 SCPoints, he will hopefully ripen to over $400K when Adelaide have their bye in Round 14. Myles Poholke had 9 disposals and 6 marks for 28 SCPoints, Darcy Fogarty had 9 disposals, 6 marks and a goal for 51 SCPoints and Jordan Gallucci had 7 disposals, 4 tackles and a goal for 48 SCPoints.

In Round 8 of the SANFL, the Adelaide Reserves lost to West Adelaide 132-63. Matthew Signorello had 24 disposals, 7 marks, 7 clearances, 4 tackles and kicked 1.1, Lachie Murphy had 17 disposals, 4 marks and 3 tackles and Ben Davis had 13 disposals, 7 marks and 3 goals.

Port Adelaide

Port had a bye round in Round 10 thanks to playing the Gold Coast in China.

The Port Adelaide Magpies still played in the SANFL, losing to North Adelaide 111-32. Jack Trengove had 29 disposals, 5 marks and 2 tackles, Dom Barry had 23 disposals and 6 marks and Cam Hewett had 25 disposals and 5 marks.

Western Australia


Fremantle were into the match for the first 3 quarters, but fell in the last quarter to lose to North Melbourne 86-58. Andrew Brayshaw had 17 disposals, 1 mark, 3 tackles and a goal for 72 SCPoints, Adam Cerra had 15 disposals, 3 marks and 9 tackles for 75 SCPoints and Bailey Banfield had 15 disposals, 5 marks and 3 tackles for 64 SCPoints.

In Round 8 of the WAFL season, the Peel Thunder lost to East Fremantle 61-37. Stefan Giro had another strong game with 34 disposals, 6 marks and 4 tackles, Taylin Duman had 25 disposals, 14 marks and 5 tackles and Michael Apeness had 20 disposals, 57 marks, 32 hitouts and a goal.

West Coast

West Coast continued to hold onto their spot on top of the table, defeating Hawthorn 75-60. Willie Rioli had 13 disposals, 5 marks and 2 goals for 72 SCPoints, his BE is now at 59 SCPoints with a 5-round average of 72 SCPoints. Tom Cole had 10 disposals and 3 marks with 3 rebound 50’s for 54 SCPoints and Jake Waterman had 9 disposals, 7 marks and 1 goal for 49 SCPoints.

In the WAFL, East Perth lost to Swan Districts 86-73. Luke Partington had 33 disposals, 4 marks, 7 tackles and a goal, Francis Watson had 22 disposals, 5 marks and 5 tackles and Oscar Allen had 17 disposals, 5 marks and 4 tackles.

New South Wales


The Giants lost their 4th match in a row, going down to Essendon 95-60. Tim Mohr had 9 disposals and 5 marks for 44 SCPoints, Daniel Lloyd had 11 disposals and 1 tackle for 44 SCPoints, Dylan Buckley had 8 disposals, 3 marks and 2 goals with 6 clangers for 29 SCPoints and Zac Langdon had 5 disposals, 2 marks, 3 tackles and a goal for 45 SCPoints.

The UWS Giants had a big win in the NEAFL, defeating Redland 124-59. Zach Sproule had 34 disposals, 11 marks and 4 tackles, Isaac Cumming had 33 disposals, 10 marks, 5 tackles and 2 goals, Aiden Bonar had 31 disposals, 4 marks and 4 tackles and Jeremey Finlayson had 25 disposals, 7 marks, 4 tackles and 2 goals.


Sydney pushed into the top 4 with their 7th win of the season, defeating Brisbane 67-49. Ben Ronke had 13 disposals, 2 marks and 2 goals for 72 SCPoints, he gained $45,600 for that week and has a BE of 45 with a current 3 round average of 88.3 SCPoints. Oliver Florent had 20 disposals, 2 marks and 4 clearances with 5 clangers for 46 SCPoints, Ryley Stoddart made his AFL debut and had 9 disposals, 2 marks and a goal for 35 SCPoints and Tom McCartin had 4 disposals for 23 SCPoints.

Sydney also defeated Brisbane in the NEAFL, winning 70-54. Daniel Robinson had 36 disposals, 6 marks and 2 tackles, Colin O’Riordan had 26 disposals, 10 marks and 2 tackles with a goal and Darcy Cameron had 13 disposals, 7 marks, 5 tackles, 31 hitouts and a goal.



Brisbane put in a good effort, but some inaccurate kicking for goal cost them and they ended up losing to Sydney 67-49. Cameron Rayner had 10 disposals, 3 marks, 3 tackles and a goal but had 7 clangers for 35 SCPoints, Zac Bailey had 8 disposals and 3 tackles for 30 SCPoints, Oscar McInerney had 5 disposals, 2 marks, 4 tackles and 14 hitouts for 41 SCPoints and Matt Eagles had 3 disposals, 1 mark and 2 tackles for 28 SCPoints.

Brisbane lost to Sydney in the NEAFL also, going down 70-54. Corey Lyons had 21 disposals, 4 marks and 3 tackles.

Gold Coast

Gold Coast had a bye last week due to playing Port Adelaide in China in Round 9.

The Suns NEAFL team also had a bye last week.

Top 5 under 200K


1. Logan Austin – $159,700 – 106 SCPoints

2. Jordan Ridley – $123,900 – 62.5 SCPoints

3. Bailey Rice – $123,900 – 61.5 SCPoints

4. Roarke Smith – $158,300 – 68 SCPoints

5. Tim Mohr – $192,400 – 56 SCPoints


1. Ed Phillips – $176,900 – 64.3 SCPoints

2. Josh Daicos – $190,500 – 45 SCPoints

3. Lochie O’Brien – $197,000 – 42.7 SCPoints

4. Myles Poholke – $167,300 – 39.2 SCPoints


1. Brayden Crossley – $151,700 – 49.3 SCPoints


1. Tim Smith – $123,900 – 96 SCPoints

2. Callum Moore – $133,600 – 68 SCPoints

3. Josh Daicos – $190,500 – 45 SCPoints

4. Jamaine Jones – $123,900 – 40 SCPoints

5. Patt Kerr – $123,900 – 39.5 SCPoints

And that’s it from me this week. As usual, you can either leave a comment in the section below, or hit me up on the Twitter @BarronVonCrow. Seeya next week!

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Smith looks an obvious downgrade but how secure is his position?


He seems to be in front of Pederson now and with weeman out looks like he's there for the long haul. He seems to ruck OK which helps.

Andrew Paddle

What about Sam Lloyd in the Richmond VFL? 34 touches and 4 goals


Could possibly come in for Higgins this week Andy…read a few bits about Higgins possibly being dropped.


Michael apeness 57 marks …. big supercoach points haha

Fantastic write up Barron we do appreciate it


only 20 disposals for Apeness, he must've played on and got caught with the ball all day


Excellent work BVC. No P.Wilson for Adelaide. It would've been a good week to push his case.


nice one post like it…….


I'm thinking the decision to bring Rocky and Walters in or not will be pivotal to the second half of our seasons.
If they both do well and don't get injured, will be a huge advantage to those that chose to take the punt.
If Rocky spuds it, or breaks down again, and Walters' knee doesn't hold up, those Coaches will be in a world of shit, much like Leonard (Gomer Pyle) Lawrence from Full Metal Jacket was.
I'm passing on both for now, and hoping I made the right decision, but you never know in this game.
Good luck to you whichever way you go.


The problem is I can't overlook Smith with his cash gen potential and I need Rice to bolster up the defence bench.
Like the Podcast said we need more trades

The Ranger

Yep, I always try and double down the week before the byes.
Good to have a nice big bank to smooth the way.


I'm with you dave


We get 9 trades over the byes. Plenty

neil demons delight

I agree RUSSTY but I kept Walters thru his injury so no loss there and I am opting for SPP not rocky no injuries there just a relo of sic and toby I think cheers mate NDD


Walters and his mate Ryan certainly plotted their revenge against the Bunnies on the weekend.

Though I had the game in the bag before the last game.


Problem with Rocky is he takes up a valuable midfield position. If you have him at M8 scoring 95-100 instead of a Dusty scoring 115-120, you will be losing ground.

Only get him if;

A) you think he will be a top 10 midfielder for rest of year

B) you have very little team value, under $12m, and you are in serious need of value players.

C) you have plenty of trades, 19+, and you only hold him over the byes, make a bit of cash and trade him to one of the big boys after their bye. Rocky up $100k, Macrae drops $100k, good trade

D) season is in dis-array and you think ‘what the hell….’ and go the hail marry

I don’t think too many in the top 500 will be risking Rocky.


From AFL website.. Article : In the Mix for round 11.
Some snippets of info…
Western Bulldogs
Get them in: Dale Morris (knee) should return for this first senior game of the year, while Aaron Naughton (ankle) is likely to pass a fitness test after missing the past two weeks.

Under the pump: While he kicked two goals in the loss to Collingwood, ruckman Jordan Roughead was thrashed by Brodie Grundy.

Medical room: The Dogs will be hoping reliable defender Zaine Cordy overcomes a concussion he received last weekend. Wingman Bailey Dale will miss up to six weeks with foot soreness.

Verdict: Morris and Naughton for Roughead and Dale. – Ryan Davidson

Medical room: Coach Adam Simpson said there were some sore players after the win over Hawthorn. Elliot Yeo (knee) looms as an option to take a break.

Under the pump: Tough to see Jamaine Jones fall out after a debut but he was quiet after kicking the first goal. Despite nine tackles, Cory Gregson finished with five touches. Ratugolea's injury helps Stewart Crameri's (nine disposals) cause. Tim Kelly might be due for a rest after two lean weeks.

Verdict: Giro and running defender Taylin Duman seem almost certain to come in, most likely for the injured Hill and Johnson. Pearce might get a reprieve, while Apeness should replace Sandilands. – Travis King

Verdict: Seedsman will return if he's fit. If Brown can't get up, then Otten is likely to be recalled. Kyle Cheney is another option. – Lee Gaskin

Get them in: Michael Hurley is expected to return this week after missing the past two games with a minor hamstring injury.
Under the pump: For Hurley to come in, a defender will have to go out. That could see Matt Dea's place in jeopardy despite performing solidly…more likely Ambrose..(injured)

neil demons delight

They love GIRO Russty Do you have anything on him NDD


Giro is a jet.
Will get a crack very soon probably this week by the sounds of it.
Big draft slider.
Was tipped 25-30 think he slipped to about 60.
Has rd 14 bye so if he plays this week will need to bring him in on the bubble rd 13 to see him miss the next one.
Not ideal but will be a good cashy/cover going forward.
If only powell got a gig but the suns ressies also had a bye. DPP who has had his bye be perfect for the next 4 weeks.

neil demons delight

They love him over there Trigg but needs a gym badly and a haircut NDD


Yep might struggle in a stiff wind

Grahame Lebroy

Does anyone know how many VFL games has P.Ahern played this year?


think he only missed one due to being a travelling emergency for the sydney game a couple of weeks back


Don't care for overall, throwing Rd 14.
So can bring anyone up to 600k
Thinking out of Cripps, Westhoff, McLean, Webster, Yeo or Oliver


Have 1 spot on each line left to premo up. 18 trades remaining.


If you have one spot on each line you need McLean, Oliver and Yeo. Although, you could easily argue Cripps.

Although none of them suit with throwing round 14.

I’d go Oliver this week. Yeo and McLean in round 13, after their byes.


Pod westoff
Or mclean, yeo who will be top 6 fwd or def.
Mids there r stacks of options with titch, dusty, cripps etc all undwr $600k.
Or plenty of pods treloar, neale etc.

Since viney has returned olivers scores have decreased as he is not roving all htas anymore so viney is getting some of his clearances.


Westhoff gonna be top 6?


In the running if ryder has a spell on the sidelines.

The Ranger

Ignoring the byes and assuming that T.Smith is a must who would you trade in order to get him in….Fritsch, Spargo, Higgins or Langdon?
Spargo is on the fwd line and Higgins in the mids so I lose my swing set if I chop one of those two.


Not Fritsch or Spargo yet


I'd go Langdon then Higgins


Higgins or Langdon. Higgins a chance to get dropped this week.


How many trades do people have left? How many until full premo (not fake premo 400k types that wont ave 100)

14 trades left with 4 upgrades needed to full premo.
Doedee, Richards, Kelly, Fritsch with 300k in the piggy.

Will McCartney

i will have a full premo by around round 13 then will fix up under performing after that (JOM/Heath Shaw???) in round 14


Have 14 trades left, 355k in the bank, 20 premo

The baby premo's I have:

NicNat 99
Hogan 96
Howe 96
Mundy 95
Shaw 93

General rule of premo lines minimum:

Def premo 95
Mid premo 110
Ruck premo 110
Fwd premo 95


Given that no rucks averaged over 110 last year, I'd say you'd wanna adjust that.
Unless you believe that you must sideways to have Gawn and Grundy no matter what.


Hope Heron gets a game this week but with all those Suns players to come back I'm not confident.
And Austin seems like a trap. Shaky job security and never supercoach relevant at port. I can see him scoring a 60, lots jumping on and then he fails to go big again. That 100 will not stay in his rolling average.
Therefore I am taking Smith and Rice as a double downgrade this week, avoiding the temptation of Rocky and Walters.


Agree about Austin. GC fans seem to think Heron did enough to hold his spot, would be a great downgrade with that bye round gone and at that price.


Thoughts on what trades I should do over the next few weeks. I have $180k and 17 Trades.

DEF: Yeo, Laird, Howe, Sicily, Simmo, Ridley (Keefe, Murphy)

MID: Titch, Fyfe, Cripps, Oliver, Cogs, Dusty, Zerrett, Kelly (Spargo, Holman, Brayshaw)

RUC: Gawn, Nank (Olango)

FWD: McLean, Heeney, D.Smith, Fritsch, Ronke, Higgins (Henry, Guelfi)

Your thoughts and ideas would be most welcome community. Cheers


If I were you, ide go Kelly to Danger and either Henry or Brayshaw via Higgins swing to T. Smith. Then perhaps bring in one of Boak, Westhoff or Gray next week along with 2 other downgrades, bulding up that war chest for the next few weeks of the byes.


I know it’s too early to trade out Fritsch but it does open up the opportunity for me to get Walters to F5 and Rocky to M8 now. The trade off is missing on T.Smith. It’s probably an issue for many. What are others doing in this situation?


So I gather this has either stumped a few or it’s a silly move to trade Fritsch at this point & pass on Smith this week?


Hi Rivo, sucks when no one responds, but, I'd advise against Walters for now but find a way to get Smith in without trading fritsch out if possible.


Thanks Russty. Appreciate the response.

Options aplenty and grappling with the need to get Rocky this week.

Smith & Rocky, Boak or McLean?


I'd get Smith and Mclean if you can wrangle that Rivo.


Thanks. Yeah McLean is a lock I think.
Maybe Rocky next week.


Really depends on your cash reserves and what you plan to do. If you need the cash then look at getting Smith in, however I'd be looking at other rookies if you have them. I think Walters is a must have … but compare his projected gains vs Smith. Rocky will be affordable for another week or two and its probably worth waiting to see how he fares.


Thanks Lazza. Will wait on Rocky another week or so. Smith & McLean this week. Walters certainly tempting but McLean a must I think.


Yep, definitely before Walters.


Tim Smith looks like a must have but I also have Petracca, Spargo, Fritsch up forward , makes round 13 very ugly as I don’t think a fritsch and Spargo will be finished making cash


I'm also stacked with Dees Graeme, maybe best just to write one round of the byes off mate as a loss.


Same dilemma for many. Currently running 17 players into round 13 and battling to find the right mix. Smiths cash generation very appealing into the byes. Still torn on this one too.


Dreamtime at the G – Out – Higgins ,In – Rioli , will be at least 1 change this week


Higgins out Logan Austin/Bailey Rice IN
Zac Langdon out Tim Smith IN
Thoughts on trades Austin or Rice


Definitely Rice before Austin


Sandilands out 1 week for concussion according to Freo medical report.


Is Will Brodie @ $188k worth taking a punt on if he gets selected this week? Could be good bye coverage and also generate some cash..


What’s happened to Howe?

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