There are too many options this week. Too. Many. Options.

We’ve got blokes coming off their bye – your Tommy Rockliffs, your Justin Westhoffs, your Robbie Grays. We’ve got blokes we need to fix up our bye structures in round 12 – your Kade Simpsons, your Toby McLeans. We’ve got the cheapies – your Michael Walters, Dustin Martins, Angus Brayshaws. We’ve got the essential rookies – your Tim Smiths, your Bailey Rices, your Jordan Ripleys.

WE NEED MORE TRADES.

We just can’t do it all this week.

So, Lekdog and Patch try and figure out what to do. They try to prioritise, they try to figure it out, they get down and dirty to throw some mud around and sees what sticks.

Chuck in some earbuds, crack open a beverage of choice and get ready for the chaos that is round 11.

Categories: Supercoach

512 Comments

Connor · 28/05/2018 at 19:03

Unrelated to SuperCoach but is it just me or did Darcy Gardiner just get away with blue murder??? IMO he managed to punch Hayward in the head twice in the scuffle in the last quarter – escaped with a $1500 fine…
Thoughts on the footage community!

    Bells · 28/05/2018 at 20:22

    Should be a week. This system basically consists of 'What one bloke reckons.' It's a joke.

    What is the go with T Smith at the Dees? Haven't seen him – but his scores look good. Is there someone back to take his spot or should I lock him in Community?
    Thinking of OUT: Stephenson, ZMerret IN: Danger, T Smith

      Jack · 28/05/2018 at 20:54

      I believe Smith has taken Weidermans spot Bells and you would think with Melbourne pushing for a top4 spot they would be looking at the best short term option, which is clearly Smith

    WTFoxtrot_58 · 28/05/2018 at 21:12

    Saw that in a brief bit of footage about the game…waiting to hear more about it.
    Your comment is the first mention of it anywhere.
    The glimpse I got I was expecting it to be Mitch Robinson..

Tyruddanaut · 28/05/2018 at 19:14

I have looked so much at bringing in R12 byes, I have neglected the R13 players. None on my watchlist

Andy · 28/05/2018 at 19:23

Robinson and Stewart or
Franklin and Simpson

    Connor · 28/05/2018 at 19:46

    Some POD's are okay but you need to recognise when you reach a stage that you're doing it just for the sake of doing it…
    Option 2

    Patch · 28/05/2018 at 21:03

    No need to jump down the guy's throat – he's just asking!

    As said by both replies here Andy, number two sounds the go mate. Robinson a sneaky pod but I don't trust Stewart at all.

    theRealPod · 29/05/2018 at 15:33

    Robbo and Simmo because they sound so Aussie.

Sc_Wow · 28/05/2018 at 20:00

Might want to edit the pod boys, around the 29 minute mark

    Patch · 28/05/2018 at 21:01

    Cheers mate, updated

      Sc_Wow · 28/05/2018 at 21:07

      All good, i thought I was going crazy haha

Jordan · 28/05/2018 at 20:33

Dom Barry to Rockliff
Or
Guelfi to Mitch Robinson?

    fcabel · 29/05/2018 at 01:16

    The former

    theRealPod · 29/05/2018 at 11:06

    If only we could predict long range weather forecast for wherever Robinson plays. He goes to uber level in the wet.

Derek · 28/05/2018 at 20:34

Put a line through Ryder. Read he isn’t even training during the week.

Haven’t had to look at other Rucks, so thought I better have a sqiz.

Grundy is $620k. That is a big number. I had a look at his scores, they also are very large. Very impressive and clearly top 2 rucks in game.

Or is he?

I will play the devils avocado again.

Looking through his numbers, he has beat up on the little blokes. Scored massive against GWS, Geelong & Buldogs, but everyone does, they don’t have any decent ruckmen.

He got Carlton when Kruzer was injured, and everyone knows Jacobs isn’t much spit.

If you look at his games against the half-decent ruckmen, he has scored 95 (Mceroy), 113 (TBC), 115 (Nank), 110 (Stef) & 109 (Hickey). I use the term half-decent very loosely. Averages 110 against the B graders.

Hasn’t really come up against any of the A Graders.

That is about to change. Have a look at his next 7 matches.

Sandilands, Gawn, Kruzer, Witts, TBC, NicNat & Goldy.

I’m not expecting him to average even 110.

Staying away at his price.

    dognino · 28/05/2018 at 20:47

    I’d think a majority of his points aren’t scored from ruck contests themselves. Avg 22 possessions a game , nearly 10 of the contested, nearly 5 clearances a game, nearly 5 tackles a game and an average of 220 metres gained per game. Him and Gawn, clear top 2 ruckman in my book.

      Derek · 28/05/2018 at 21:09

      Good point Dognino.

        Jack · 28/05/2018 at 21:17

        It's a good point but also your point still had some merit. His hitouts to advantage will drop against quality ruckmen.
        It's very possible that Grundy & Kreuzer both average ~110 from here on. Can't really see another option, unless NicNats tog increases

          Derek · 28/05/2018 at 23:27

          WCE arnt going to change a winning formula. NicNat TOG of about 60% is working really well. Won’t change.

          Vardy will be back soon as well

            Russty_ · 29/05/2018 at 00:51

            No love for Nicnat Derek?…he's going ok with limited gametime, will probably have a few crazy big scores too.

              Derek · 29/05/2018 at 01:01

              I’m worried that WCE are going well and won’t go away from what is working well for them. NicNat starts each quarter and plays about 10 mins, then has a rest and comes back for the last 7ish mins of the quarter as fresh as a daisy. It is working. Plus Vardy is close to returning.

    Jack · 28/05/2018 at 20:48

    So we wait 2 more weeks Derek, he plays 2 of the best big bastards in the business. If he averages 100 the next 2 it's enough for me, I'll bring him in after his bye.
    It sucks that Lycett has his bye before him though
    Who is your alternative now that Ryder is not?

      Derek · 28/05/2018 at 21:13

      I will look at them all and see. Even Witts who has Cats, GWS & Saints next 3.

        Randomcliche2 · 28/05/2018 at 21:42

        I'd look at Kruez, think he's the best value atm

          Derek · 29/05/2018 at 12:26

          I think i'll go with Kruzer. also lets me go Finlayson to Walters (even though i'll be cutting it close for round 14)

            Randomcliche2 · 30/05/2018 at 14:03

            Nice one. I started him, but alas the injury struck. I can't warrant the Nic/Nat back to Kreuz atm, Nic Nat BE to low, I don't make $ from it, if Nic Nat TOG goes up he can match Kreuz…. perhaps a bye round switcheroo trade….hmmm.

    Lazza · 28/05/2018 at 22:41

    Sandilands unlikely to play this week..

      Derek · 28/05/2018 at 23:28

      Just a bit of a head knock. He should play.

        Lazza · 29/05/2018 at 07:45

        Cool.
        Source was a injury update on SEN last night… Nothing formal..

    fcabel · 29/05/2018 at 02:16

    I've come to the same conclusion with Nank on board. Kreuz coming into form may be the answer.

    SC_Sixty6 · 29/05/2018 at 07:36

    Have a look at his around the ground stats. Speaks for itself. Even if he has a tough time against Gawn/Sandi he WILL get possessions and tackle. He's the 4th midfielder.

      Derek · 29/05/2018 at 09:37

      You can’t argue with his numbers, very large. Can’t score like that without getting a few kicks.

      $620k is just a lot of k’s

        SC_Sixty6 · 29/05/2018 at 10:08

        It is. Since I've had him I can't complain. 135, 110, 152 (VC)

    easy 1 · 29/05/2018 at 08:36

    Just grab the Hoff

      Derek · 29/05/2018 at 09:38

      Don’t think the Hoff is a Ruck.

    SC_Sixty_6 · 29/05/2018 at 20:24

    I've got 1 rookie upgrade left (Fritsch to McLean after round 12), but also got Goldspud to trade out during the bye's. Would love Grundy but Kreuz or Nic Nat 100k cheaper is a lot easier to trade to, especially a round 13 bye ruck for a round 12.

    Love your Grundy analysis Derek, more food for thought

    Brissy bombers · 30/05/2018 at 05:38

    Sandy officially ruled out by freo.. gee whiz

    prizza · 30/05/2018 at 17:01

    Gee whiz grundy along side gawn would have to mean jackpot surelyl

Ryan · 28/05/2018 at 20:36

Travis boak or westhoff ? Both pods! Both very consistent this year.. thoughts

    Jack · 28/05/2018 at 20:52

    Westhoff. Boak averaged 85 last year and I don't believe his role has changed since then.
    Westhoff has averaged in the 90's before and has benefitted this year from Ryder missing which may happen again going off Derek's post.

      seen_burns · 28/05/2018 at 21:51

      Both are great picks I believe, but yeah have to agree with ya the Hoff will probably be the better pick out of the two

      Dildor · 30/05/2018 at 11:09

      Boak's a big game player and the power are travelling well, think they have a few big games a head going into the pointy end. Something to consider maybe.

    Derek · 28/05/2018 at 22:55

    There is always the Chad

      fcabel · 29/05/2018 at 02:17

      Has a good history. Cheap as chips. You think he can bring it home?

        Derek · 29/05/2018 at 09:40

        Patch will burn our houses down if he knew we were even discussing him.

        SC_Sixty_6 · 29/05/2018 at 20:26

        High risk, high reward

    theRealPod · 29/05/2018 at 10:58

    Boak good avg at AO. Port playing about 8 games at AO 2nd half of season.

Defying_Madness · 28/05/2018 at 21:16

My problem with regards to Rocky without mentioning his injury history is that he is a mid. My midfield is fine for the byes and I think I have only 1 donut in the midfield over all 3 weeks. I am in need of a forward premo from port/gc so if Gray tonnes up this week and plays enough midfield I will be bringing him in next week. I will be watching Hawks vs Port very closely considering I will be at the game.

    Randomcliche2 · 28/05/2018 at 21:44

    Looking forward to your report back…although I've held Gray and just bought Rocky this week.

    Jim · 30/05/2018 at 13:45

    Heading down to Tassie are we?

Rivo · 28/05/2018 at 21:38

Considering a somewhat safer play this week.

T.Kelly & Garlett to Boak & T.Smith.

Josh · 28/05/2018 at 22:06

Is Walters a must this week?

    Swans2012 · 28/05/2018 at 22:15

    Behind smith and rocky for me

    Jack · 28/05/2018 at 22:20

    There's about 5 must haves this week, yet we only have 2 trades so depends on your own team I think. I'm bringing.him in with Smith

    Lazza · 28/05/2018 at 22:43

    He is a must every week

    redherringfc · 29/05/2018 at 12:21

    I had a look at his numbers from last year and decided that Buddy is better value at the moment.

      Derek · 29/05/2018 at 12:35

      Buddy can't even train during the week. that must be a worry

    Skindog · 29/05/2018 at 22:07

    far too injury prone, id look elsewhere

    Randomcliche2 · 30/05/2018 at 14:12

    Held him. 🙂 But yeah, there are like 5 musts but ultimately comes down to do you need to generate more cash to get to full premo, or are you there with the rookies you have. If the latter then Rocky, Walters, Hall, all have rediculous BE's and a few other premo mids are very juicy. But remember to look past BE's to see if they meet your strategy…I know someone who nearly bought a buble ruck last week who went on to score 25…be careful its a jungle out there.

Steve · 28/05/2018 at 22:37

Would anyone consider Ed Curnow to be a good pick up?

Carlton have the softest draw in the comp after the bye and he averages 117 without Murphy in the side this year.

Or would you rather go for someone life Dusty, Gaff or Treloar?

Cheers community

    Lazza · 28/05/2018 at 22:46

    Great POD .. he and Gaff are incredibly consistent, but ceiling not as high as the other two.. I guess it depends on how many boom/bust players you have… the consistent scorers underpin your team.

      Dale · 28/05/2018 at 22:55

      Fantastic pod. I can’t split rocky and ed curnow been eyeing him off till his bye for 2-3 weeks now. The suspension was handy

Jordan · 28/05/2018 at 22:47

Rockliff or Mitch Robinson?

    theRealPod · 29/05/2018 at 15:31

    Both have huge ceilings but Rocky hasn't reached that height for awhile. Both injury prone but I would go Robbo out of the two.

    Skindog · 29/05/2018 at 19:31

    Robbo over Rocky for me, Rocky looking half the man he used to be, soft like Pie (dog) but im going a massive pod thats on the rise in Lever!!

nutsack · 28/05/2018 at 22:52

OUCH!!! Did anyone see Ratugoleas ankle injury? His foot was pointing down beyond a straight line with his leg. Check out the footage. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNtFoQfGer4

    BrownlowBoy · 29/05/2018 at 11:14

    Saw it live. They showed his face on the big screen when they tried to move him. He was in agony. Terrible to watch.

nutsack · 28/05/2018 at 22:54

2 bubble rookies in the hand is worth more than a fallen premo in the bush

    Derek · 28/05/2018 at 23:30

    I think there is an old Pyanmen children’s story about that.

Jack · 28/05/2018 at 23:02

Rockliff had 68% tog in China. Not sure if this is a good or bad thing. Nice PPM, but is he still carrying injury?

    Russty_ · 29/05/2018 at 00:52

    Probably, I think he's held together by $2 shop sticky tape.

      Jack · 29/05/2018 at 09:00

      They might have got a better price for it in China!

    SC_Kev7 · 29/05/2018 at 13:07

    Wouldn't overthink it, Jack. Been high 60's / low 70's TOG 5/6 games at Port so far.

Dale · 28/05/2018 at 23:02

Is T.smith really that much of a must? It wouldn’t be the first time a rookie has scored big till his bubble then flopped? I really don’t know much about his playing role & JS. Feel free to fill me in.

I want Walters and rocky but don’t wanna miss smith if his a must.

    neil demonsdelight · 29/05/2018 at 07:39

    Definitely the real deal Helps gawn out as well j.s is ok injuries the problem NDD

    Mick · 29/05/2018 at 12:37

    His BE is -118, coming toward the pointy end of the season many of us will only trade down a handful more rooks to fill out the team. A guy who even if he avgs 65 from here on that will be $350k is pretty damn valuable imo.

    paul · 29/05/2018 at 18:15

    He is 27 a ready made player and in a team going to score big on the way up. The probability of him averaging 80/90 with the variables in place is very high.

TommyC99 · 28/05/2018 at 23:29

Thoughts on Findlayson/Duman – T Smith (keeffe into defence) and Kelly – Rockliff?

    Russty_ · 29/05/2018 at 00:49

    I'm doing similar mate, will make some good bank and hopefully Smith is the real deal and Rocky doesn't crumble into dust!

      SC_Sixty6 · 29/05/2018 at 07:42

      If you think he's held together by 2$ tape why you on him Russty? Reward outweigh risk you're thinking?

        Dale · 29/05/2018 at 07:44

        Your kiddin me!! Well this has screwed me over well n truly

Nick · 29/05/2018 at 00:08

!!!! HELP !!!

ROCKLIFF OR WALTERS???

Who should be first priority? I want walters but already have 2 premo forwards and 3 premo mids with the round 14 bye.

What are your thoughts community

    Russty_ · 29/05/2018 at 00:48

    Hey Nick, unless you're ranked right up there, and you mainly play for rank, I reckon just get who you want and be prepared for one bad bye round, if it's mainly Leagues you play for, why bring a bunch of guys in you wouldn't normally want just to get your score up there?
    The byes don't affect you too much if it's mainly Leagues you play for, you might cop one or even two losses in the byes and can still win your league at the end of it.
    Cheers.

    Derek · 29/05/2018 at 01:08

    Rocky won’t be a top 10 mid.

    Walters is very likely to be a top 8 forward.

    Easy choice, but need to think about the byes, so will look at him again after his bye if he hasn’t re-injured his knee again.

Ando · 29/05/2018 at 00:46

Fritsch to T Smith & T Kelly to Treloar

Yay or nay?

    Russty_ · 29/05/2018 at 00:55

    Hey Ando, Fritsch is going pretty well though, any other spuds you could offload?..I'd go yoyo Henry before Fritz.

      Ando · 29/05/2018 at 12:57

      Yeah I've got Henry. Cheers Russty!

Russty_ · 29/05/2018 at 00:58

Naughton should be back this week, if anyone's interested, saw an article and video on the Bulldog's website.

    SC_Sixty6 · 29/05/2018 at 07:36

    Damn it!!!!

      Derek · 29/05/2018 at 09:43

      It said he will be back training with the main group. I doubt he will play

        SC_Sixty6 · 29/05/2018 at 10:12

        Hope not. Need 1 more week with him on pine.

    Lazza · 29/05/2018 at 07:40

    I traded him last week.. had to.. to field back line.. bought in Yeo and Ridley

    Babanna · 29/05/2018 at 16:20

    I hope he plays. Good rookie who lost cash because he went off after one minute.

      Russty_ · 29/05/2018 at 16:39

      Hey mate this was part of the Bulldog's Press release on Monday titled 'Naughton in the mix to return'

      The Western Bulldogs could welcome back first-year defender Aaron Naughton this weekend, while fellow backman Zaine Cordy faces a test to face the Demons on Saturday.

      Naughton rolled his ankle during latter stages of the Dogs’ 14-point win over Brisbane in Round 8, but has been cleared to return to full training this week.

      “Aaron has made a really good recovery following his ankle injury, medical services manger Chris Bell told westernbulldogs.com.au on Monday.

      “He ticked off a really good footy session over the weekend and he's in line to return to full training this week. If he ticks the boxes as we expect, he returns to playing this weekend.”

        Jaco · 30/05/2018 at 11:51

        I didnt realise the first minute was considered the "latter" stage of the game.

          Russty_ · 30/05/2018 at 17:29

          Yeah great writing ay?…I even had to edit this published article to make it legible! lol

DEES NUTS R BIG · 29/05/2018 at 03:17

Supercoach defenders on the cheap
Rice VS Ridley (this week), Heroin VS Austin (next week)
Who ya taking?

    Redpill5 · 29/05/2018 at 08:22

    Heroin

    Jack · 29/05/2018 at 09:04

    I took Rice last week and will take Heron over Austin if I need another defensive rookie.

      BadgerHoney7 · 29/05/2018 at 12:28

      if it was me I would do rice and heroin

    JohnDJ59 · 29/05/2018 at 14:37

    I've traded in Rice this week, Heron next week.

DEES NUTS R BIG · 29/05/2018 at 03:20

Tommy Rockliff Supercoach SlapNuts – Trade him in suckas!

ROB14 · 29/05/2018 at 05:49

Tom Phillips? What are people's thoughts? Looking at him, Heppell or Selwood as a cheap POD

    theRealPod · 29/05/2018 at 11:02

    Phillips an interesting one, I think next season a real chance of going next level. Massive tank but just not quite elite mid yet.

      ROB14 · 29/05/2018 at 12:14

      Hmmm I just can't decide, if you take away that game that got KO'd his average would be over 100… Or I bring in Walters and Rockliff and miss out on Smith… Tough decision

        theRealPod · 29/05/2018 at 15:22

        Phillips 5 game avg is 110+ so if you decide to go with him he's a bargain at $500k.

      Beezneez · 29/05/2018 at 12:22

      I've looked at him and he is tempting. I'm looking to see how Crouch or J Kelly go in the next few weeks for my final mid spot – even though I traded both out previously. Personally, I would pick him as a POD before Hurley and Selwood but it's kinda toss of the coin.

        Beezneez · 30/05/2018 at 15:30

        Ps Heppell not Hurley

    The Ranger · 29/05/2018 at 12:25

    I'd take Selwood out of those three.
    Pendles is cheap too.

    TheGreatBozza · 29/05/2018 at 12:28

    Love Flippa!! I just think there are some stronger options out there. I 100% think he is one to watch for the future.
    As I pies fan i see him as a mix between Swanny & Gaff, but i'm biased

    JohnDJ59 · 29/05/2018 at 14:35

    I like Heppell av 103, no bad games, he's on my watchlist for my last mid upgrade.

      ROB14 · 29/05/2018 at 16:00

      Stuff it, I'm going with my gut and backing in Phillips… Fortune favours the brave and I like what hes been doin this year!

        Marty · 29/05/2018 at 19:10

        Pies are certainly sharing the ball with so many possessions so it has merit. Would prefer Treloar to Flippa.

          ROB14 · 29/05/2018 at 19:54

          I wanted treloar but can't scrape up the cash unless I get rid of fritsch

Doc_1 · 29/05/2018 at 07:51

Judging by the feed, NOT taking Rocky is going to be the POD
(and probably not too risky a POD given his injury history).

    Cam · 29/05/2018 at 08:44

    Agreed, he won't be a top 8 mid, and although will be handy during the byes do we really have the luxury of burning 2 trades just to make slight profit at this stage of the year

      Sc_Wow · 29/05/2018 at 09:01

      Don’t need to trade him out, could become a great m9 which saves an injury trade down the track

        Jack · 29/05/2018 at 09:28

        Unless if he gets injured himself

          Sc_Wow · 29/05/2018 at 09:32

          Doesn’t matter if he is m9

        Derek · 29/05/2018 at 09:53

        Walters would be a great M9/F7 to finish the season with.

          Defying_Madness · 30/05/2018 at 00:57

          Walters shouldn't be your bench cover if he is in your team. Will be one of the top forwards this year

    Jack · 29/05/2018 at 09:26

    Don't think he will be a pod either way think it will be.close to a 50/50.
    I do see the appeal. What's a trade worth? 200k? Or 200 points maybe?
    He doesn't have a bye so he could make you 60 points right there (based on him scoring 100 and your lowest rookie 40) Even if he just gets to 500k, would a 130k profit + 60 point gain be worth it?

      Ja191 · 29/05/2018 at 09:35

      price is irrelevant until you trade him out which will end up costing you 2 trades though

    NoLanguage · 30/05/2018 at 00:35

    The amount of people trading him in is mind boggling. More than comfy taking the 'risk' of not getting him

Can · 29/05/2018 at 08:42

I would like everyone's opinions on who they think the top 6 forwards we going to be.

I'm thinking of picking up gray or Walters this week (i know significant difference in price and breakevens) but am concerned about whether Walters is a top 6 forward.

Also should I lean towards gray because I already have fyfe and mundy? (Don't care about byes cause going for league)

Cheers in advance

    Jack · 29/05/2018 at 09:16

    If byes don't matter I'd go Walters cos he is cheaper. If I didn't have Gray I'd wait and see. He looks like he has gone back to a forward role, if he does he is still good enough to average 95ish, but I reckon Walters could do that for cheaper.

    As for top6 it's hard for forwards but I'd say:
    Must haves (ave100+) Heeney & McLean

    Gray a must have ONLY IF playing midfield
    Then I'd say any of Smith, Westhoff, Boak, Franklin, Sicily*, Darling
    Or if you want a cheaper more risky yet proven player then Josh Kennedy is your man

      Derek · 29/05/2018 at 10:24

      Menagola has to be in the calculations. 5 scores over 120+

        theRealPod · 29/05/2018 at 10:52

        Absolutely. Can't understand the lack of interest after last season and current form.

        Jack · 29/05/2018 at 11:01

        True Derek definitely in there. I knew I left at least 1 out

        TheGreatBozza · 29/05/2018 at 12:33

        As long as he stops elbowing and kicking blokes in the head. Lucky to get off

    Ja191 · 29/05/2018 at 09:31

    remember previous scores are irrelevant it's what they score from now on. Gray with rockey in the side will see a similar output to last year scoring poorly some weeks and some good others (played forward more). Walters averaged 100 until he got injured, absolute bargain for his price. Will finish top 6 if he doesn't get injured, lock him in.

      Derek · 29/05/2018 at 10:22

      in the injury report, it said that Walters hurt his knee in the 3rd quarter but was able to finish the game. i didn't see the game, anyone see that?

Cam · 29/05/2018 at 10:27

Youve convinced me boys, saves me an extra 120k can use to maybe get macrea after bye or gray in a few weeks if I still feel confident.

Will mean I have:
McLean heeney smith mundy Walters.
Can decide who's best to fill last spot later on

DavidSA · 29/05/2018 at 11:07

Best case senario for Rockliff:
1) he does not get injured
2) he stays in the midfield
3) Ports draw gets easier so expect him to stay Mid and Gray to stay Fwd
4) averages over 105 on the run home
5) if all of the above happens he will be 550k give or take thus made you over 170k

The upside far exceeds the risk
Don't compare the risk to previous years. Pat yourselves on the back you all did not start him this year and reward yourselves with a triple bye cover player who can score way above his current price

    JugHead · 29/05/2018 at 11:33

    Even comparing the risk to previous years, I'm fairly positive. I put a lot of weight on recent history.
    Last year Rocky played 20 games. Although he didnt have a fantastic average, it was his last year at brisbane and funny things happen with players who are leaving. The year buddy left the hawks, they played him way up the ground to try out gunston etc as deep forwards. But I digress…..
    I think a few people are remembering a couple of years previously when rocky yo-yo'd in and out with injuries, burning quite a few along the way. That is now ancient history. He played 20 games last year, by his own admission didn't have a good preseason this year, is 28 years old (ok, a high kilometer 28yo) and is very nicely priced. I think he will work into the rest of the season fine except for pure bad luck.
    Lets compare that to someone like Lids, who I wouldn't go anywhere near even before his latest calf injury.
    Lids hasn't played 20 games since 2013, is 31 years old and is 100k more.

      DavidSA · 29/05/2018 at 11:34

      Good insight

        The Ranger · 29/05/2018 at 12:12

        Hehehe…this one is gonna run all week isn't it David?
        I genuinely hope he does well cos I love the way he plays but I've just got too many scars.

        Jughead, he had surgery on his shoulder after 2017 so I would suggest you can't regard that as ancient history. and he averaged 78 over the last 12 games of 2017.

          Swans2012 · 29/05/2018 at 12:20

          The 78 average involved the bung shoulder though didn't it? Mid season injury? Can't quite remember

          JugHead · 29/05/2018 at 12:30

          Yep, it will run all week…lol. Rockliff is banged up for sure, and the shoulder op no doubt had a lot to do with his preseason.
          But as he gets games under his belt now I think he will improve. If you believe his average last season was affected by playing injured, you have to believe he will average higher from now on if he is right. Assuming he continues to play as a mid.
          Incidently, this isn't necessarily a recommendation to take Rocky over Walters.
          Derek made a good point earlier, that Walters should finish a higher ranked forward than Rocky's mid rank.
          I think if you pick Rocky, you are doing it mainly for his price and bye coverage.
          If you go Walters its because of that high rank as a fwd and his current price. Also, Walters would make a very good M9/fwd swingman at the pointy end of the season.

        Derek · 29/05/2018 at 12:32

        even with the best case, he isn't a top 8 midfielder, therefore he should be traded out at some point.

        comes back to the question i ponder a lot…. what is a trade worth?

          redherringfc · 29/05/2018 at 12:41

          Say we aim to increase team value by 4 million, divide by 30 trades. You end up around $135k.

          But some of the increase (like decrease) is from your initial picks.

          If he makes $135k, I’ll be happy.

          Johnny · 29/05/2018 at 12:44

          Depending on your cash generation and trades left come finals he could be an M9 for most if he isn’t firing properly . If he goes nuts then happy days….

            Derek · 29/05/2018 at 13:09

            walters would be a better M9 with his DPP

          Marty · 29/05/2018 at 19:17

          Totally agree with all comments and your question Derek. Is this year a little different as many rookies have made us money? We might have a little more luxury to trade Rocky in and keep him as a M9. I have weighed it up and would prefer one more week to make up my mind and jump on someone else first. Yes that might cost another 20-30k but I'm willing to take that risk.

    Ricardo · 29/05/2018 at 12:18

    Armitage Mark II

    Ricardo · 29/05/2018 at 12:29

    Averaging 42 if you count the 0's he's scored while missing games. Not close to SC relevant.

      DavidSA · 29/05/2018 at 13:48

      he is bye relevant and cash gen relevant and relevant to those who will struggle to have full premo.
      You know the ones who held onto Hibberd, Billings or Tracca

        JohnDJ59 · 29/05/2018 at 14:29

        I had all three David, they are long gone from my team, but I traded Hibbo to Hurley, who then got injured, Hibbo would have been handy for my team on the weekend, with two donuts in the backline.

Lazio · 29/05/2018 at 11:53

Rockliff will be injured within the next 3 weeks, take that to the bank.
Enjoy a spud score of a 70odd in the meantime.

    DavidSA · 29/05/2018 at 12:06

    "🔮" your a magnificent mystical seer!
    x4 scores over 85 with x2 over 110 is my prediction over the next 4 weeks

    Derek · 29/05/2018 at 12:27

    he does have that 'Delidio' feel about him

Gibbs · 29/05/2018 at 12:16

Josh Kelly needs to be discussed more, personally after his bye I think he is someone we should all consider.

Averaged 114 last year hasn't reached those heights yet due to his groin, but should be priced 530-550 round 14 Ripe for the taking!

    anthdepa7 · 29/05/2018 at 12:19

    Agreed, traded him out the other week for some cash flow but at his best and when the giants are playing good football his the man.

    TRIGGA_HAPPY · 29/05/2018 at 16:16

    Two letters

    O P.

    Buyer beware.

      SC_Sixty6 · 29/05/2018 at 16:32

      Where you hear that from Trigga?

        Dildor · 30/05/2018 at 11:04

        Yeah i have that feeling too Trigga. Teams don't like to say it these days but that long out with groin soreness just screams OP and that shit lingers, wait and watch i reckon.

    Russty_ · 29/05/2018 at 16:54

    You need to be discussed too Gibbsy, what's with the 3 round average of 83 mate?…you started the season so well too 🙂

    prizza · 29/05/2018 at 17:27

    Absolute jet , if he starts breaking the lines again ( like he always has pre injury) this week ,jump on at earliest convenience and team set up of course

    Sc_Wow · 29/05/2018 at 17:42

    Hopefully cog continues to benifit from Kelly being in the team too. Wash refreshing seeing him go big again

anthdepa7 · 29/05/2018 at 12:17

Ridley or Rice? #askingforafriend

    Jack · 29/05/2018 at 12:32

    Rice

    Defying_Madness · 29/05/2018 at 14:35

    Lookat your byes. I have Keefe as my only out in round 13 so I will probably get Ridley if he is named

    seen_burns · 29/05/2018 at 15:39

    Rice for JS

SC_Sixty6 · 29/05/2018 at 12:37

I see alot of people trading in Walters and wonder if they really take into account that he isn't 100% and won't be until he has surgery on his PCL that he injured a month back.

From personal experience having done my ACL, PCL and Meniscus it will only take 1 awkward tackle or a twist or a knock and his knee will blow up like a balloon again with the swelling that has already occured. But that's only from personal experience so just my two cents.

He may be cheap but is he another trade waiting to happen. All pre season we look at who are the injury prone player's and try minimise this and so far this week I see ROCKY & WALTERS as inclusions. Think long and hard guys.

    BrownlowBoy · 29/05/2018 at 12:40

    He didn't have surgery did he?

      SC_Sixty6 · 29/05/2018 at 12:42

      No. That will be last resort because it would put him out for alot longer than 2 weeks.

      There was damage and swelling to his PCL. I'm just waiting for it to go again like last year.

        BrownlowBoy · 29/05/2018 at 12:48

        ah sorry my mistake.

        Who are you bringing in this week?

          SC_Sixty6 · 29/05/2018 at 13:09

          This week I will be doubling down ready to upgrade in byes. I'm fine with watching rocky prove me wrong this week for not much of a price rise. He's still cheap enough so if he goes well they have all the byes at home.

        JugHead · 29/05/2018 at 14:04

        For players in that situation, even if his knee holds together, at some point the club can decide its time for him to get the op done anyway to give him a good start for the next yeaar. Lyons has said he wants to keep getting games into the kids.

    Derek · 29/05/2018 at 13:07

    i read the injury report from the weekend and it said that he hurt his knee in the 3rd quarter, but was able to finish the game. i didn't see it, was he limping on it?

      Derek · 29/05/2018 at 13:08

      talking about knee injuries… how is Lobb's knee going?

        SC_Sixty6 · 29/05/2018 at 13:56

        Lobbs knee is no good. Good enough to play but with the injuries GWS have he's putting in. He's getting fluid constantly drained from it. No ligament damage so that's the main thing.

          Keenbutclueless · 29/05/2018 at 14:38

          Interesting for me was that Keefe did a lot of the ruck work a couple of week’s ago. Then dropped when Patton came back. Lobb rucked and tonned up. I threw the Hail Mary and picked him up, will throw another one with Rocky. Both most likely to end badly, but goddam its more exciting than meandering along eying all these far superior teams to mine.

            Ahmad rubas · 29/05/2018 at 19:01

            I brought him in as well mainly because I'm tight on cash tho and seemed a good value option happy he scored the ton this week and has very low ownership

      SC_Sixty6 · 29/05/2018 at 13:11

      He was fine. He did repeat efforts and lost so starting limping….the ball came back quick and he was running again.

        DavidSA · 29/05/2018 at 13:35

        That shows he is mindful of it off the ball but when involved in the play that footy brain kicks in. This will be a defining moment this season. 1) he breaks down again and we all say "see" or 2) he run home 110+ and we all say "gee" lol

    SC_Sixty6 · 29/05/2018 at 16:40

    😂 I too may forget and forgive a few community members……in time. In meantime I will provide to the community. Take on board what you will!

    prizza · 29/05/2018 at 17:44

    So you dont have sony, lol , he is slightly built which is an advantage, a good healer as well proven in the past which is an advantage, he will cop his fair share because now in the mids and he has got lets say a bit of mongrel in him and open to big hits but , i already have him and i can take his high ceiling every couple of weeks even if it means looping.
    Stay away from him lol.

      SC_Sixty6 · 29/05/2018 at 18:08

      I hope for your sake he stays on the park. But he went down like he was shot on an awkward twist with someone just holding him last time.

    seen_burns · 29/05/2018 at 19:45

    I agree, feel like he is a bit to fragile especially playing more midfield minutes, may drop off or get another injury later in the year, also having the Rd 14 bye is killer for my team. Even though he is dripping of value, I'll pass and get someone like a Westhoff.

BlueBoy · 29/05/2018 at 12:52

What are Mirra's chances of getting another game this week?

Have Murphy and Keeffe on bench so I might have to think about cover…

    Derek · 29/05/2018 at 13:05

    i thought he had a poor game last week, didn't have the height against WCE. But somehow managed a decent SC score. Port is a better match up for him and i expect him to hold his place.

      BlueBoy · 29/05/2018 at 13:16

      Thanks Derek. I didn't get to see the game. Hoping he plays until his bye.

    theRealPod · 29/05/2018 at 15:26

    He did look out of place early in that WC game but did improve. He's a work in progress and I think he'll keep his spot for now. Frawley listed as a test with his shoulder and Birch 4 weeks away (has that list been updated?)

Sc_Wow · 29/05/2018 at 13:10

Had another look at the rocky situation. Not going to risk it

    Doc · 29/05/2018 at 13:18

    Reasoning? Too injury prone for you or do you have some contacts at Port with the inside scoop?

      Sc_Wow · 29/05/2018 at 13:21

      Lack of trades if he does get injured. I rather just bring in a premo mid this week instead

        JugHead · 29/05/2018 at 13:25

        Despite me pumping up Rocky, I wouldn't blame anyone for that point of view either. I hate bringing in stepping stone players.
        IF I bring in Rocky, its to keep him, and to be honest, I'd prefer a dpp M9.

        Doc · 29/05/2018 at 13:29

        Fair bump. I'll be looking at trading in Treloar or Gaff after their byes anyway so he'll be what I hope is a decent M9 looper. Then again though not trading him in is probably beneficial to you because you are ranked so high and are aiming to be higher

          Sc_Wow · 29/05/2018 at 13:37

          Yeah they both seem like solid options

    DavidSA · 29/05/2018 at 13:22

    Seems like a lot doing a 180 on him
    Community strategy or as the week gets closer peeps letting the history of burn from him settle in.

    I know it's different in your situation… you have to consider how many will jump on him who are ranked in the top 1k
    Would be more benificial for you to pass on him I think

    Rockliff is a great selection for those who are struggling with byes and can foresee that they are struggling to get full premo

      Sc_Wow · 29/05/2018 at 13:28

      Yep if I pass on him I can get smith and a legitimate premo midefeilder to finish my 8

        DavidSA · 29/05/2018 at 13:29

        if I was in your possition I would not fluff around and go hard bro
        Hope you finish top 3 👍

          Sc_Wow · 29/05/2018 at 13:36

          Cheers mate, keen to see where I am at after byes. Feel like my structure is good

      Whatyasmokin · 30/05/2018 at 11:06

      Flipside to the struggling to get full premo reasoning is that Rocky could just guarantee that failure for many. Better off just continuing to paint the fence with reliable premos. I see Rocky as a bonus option for those doing well and could even be their M10.

        Sc_Wow · 30/05/2018 at 12:15

        I think he’s going two ways, people using him as a luxury player in the byes, which is fine if you have plenty of trades, and plan to still have plenty of trades afterwards.

        However I think there are just as many out there that are running low on cash and see rocky as a bargain m8, this is too big of a risk for me.
        If you have plenty of cover in your byes the trade to rocky may not be necessary as we have seen a lot of rookies who can pump out 100’s this year

    Crowboy94 · 29/05/2018 at 13:35

    Same

    Derek · 29/05/2018 at 13:55

    Rocky is for those who are short on cash and ready to throw their ‘hail Marry’ for the season.

    Short on cash he is a good option

      Moosehead · 29/05/2018 at 14:57

      Yes Derek, I’m short on cash and The Roc is too risky for me, then again, I probably don’t take enough risks. Now resigned to just playing for leagues after getting off to the best start I have had in eight years of playing SC. Injuries to key players and also traded out Nank for expensive Grundy a couple of weeks ago when I figured he would be a late out but no, Nank scored 115.

    SC_Sixty6 · 29/05/2018 at 13:57

    Yup good meeting this morning Wow! Take a step back and get out of that tunnel vision!

    neil demons delight · 29/05/2018 at 15:42

    congratulations to wow and 66 for these recent posts This is the wow/66 that we all want. As I have said before your knowledge is football fantasy is second to none. and that post about walters knee was a delight. Keep this up and forget all the crap and you wtll wen ppl back .Well done lad//s

    gator59 · 29/05/2018 at 17:44

    A very wise move

      Sc_Wow · 29/05/2018 at 18:00

      Cheers, thought to myself why not just bring a premo mid in and play a rookie for their bye round

        gator59 · 29/05/2018 at 18:54

        Now you've got your thinking cap on Wow

    prizza · 29/05/2018 at 17:48

    Wowzer you just made 100000 supercoachers hit the reverse button lol.
    Might wait one more week myself and see how the rocky gray thing works as there may not be room for both.

Crowboy94 · 29/05/2018 at 13:38

Interested to hear what you guys think of my team:

Laird, Yeo, Sicily, Simpson, McGovern, Crisp (Duman, Murphy)

Dangerfield, MaCrae, Mitchell, Fyfe, Cripps, Crouch, Merrett, Holman (Spargo, Barry, Phillips)

14 trades and 179k

Gawn, Nank (Cameron)

Heeney, Mclean, Westhoff, Fritsch, Billings, Smith (Guelfi, Keefe)

    Sc_Wow · 29/05/2018 at 13:42

    Might struggle a little in rd12, its different though

    DavidSA · 29/05/2018 at 13:44

    18-19 keepers is par around this time.
    The top 5k teams all have 19-20 keepers right now.

      Jack · 29/05/2018 at 14:01

      I'm top 3k David and I only have 17 keepers.
      Laird, Sicily, Simpson, Howe, Doedee, Rice (Murphy, Keefe)
      Macrae, Cripps, Danger, Titch, Martin, Fyfe, Oliver, Walters (Phillips, Barry, Worpel)
      Gawn, Lycett (McInnerly)
      McLean, Gray, Heeney, Smith, Fritsch, Smith (Spargo, Guelfi)

        DavidSA · 29/05/2018 at 14:05

        I see 18 but well done on your rank mate

          Steeeve · 29/05/2018 at 21:36

          I am 2k and have only 16 keepers because I am not including Goldstein, Charlie Curnow or Petracca

    JohnDJ59 · 29/05/2018 at 14:16

    Trade out Billings and it will look even better.

JugHead · 29/05/2018 at 13:42

For those who use footywire to get a lot of their info (for those that don't, you should, its very handy)…. footywire lists Rocky as dpp. He isn't. He is mid only in SC site.

    Pod · 29/05/2018 at 15:44

    That is based on AFL FANTASY

Wayward · 29/05/2018 at 15:04

I’m taking a punt of Tim Kelly to turn his form around after his 10 possession last quarter. If he fails, out he goes. Anyone else doing likewise?

    Sc_Wow · 29/05/2018 at 15:09

    Traded him last week, he's a rookie who is now losing cash

    theRealPod · 29/05/2018 at 15:16

    If he loses 20k-25k won't be that bad. If he can regain his early form it would be a brilliant move and will become a POD as a bonus. You could then trade him out before round 14 when Cats have their bye.

    Beezneez · 29/05/2018 at 15:32

    Forced to keep him on account of other trades. That also rules out a trade to Walters and I didn't want to trade him to a rookie. I read that he may be playing sore. Think his game time was reduced early. He's too good a player to dismiss atm for me. Will reconsider after this round.

    DacZawson · 29/05/2018 at 15:45

    I believe that he's had a slight role change, causing him to be at less centre bounces than he was in the first few weeks where he tonned up. Cats still experimenting with their mid/fwd mix given their plethora of options but for the moment I'd be giving Kelly the flick.

    Russty_ · 29/05/2018 at 15:52

    I'm just going Kelly to Smith this week so far, and to cash up before Kelly loses much more cash.

    Marty · 29/05/2018 at 19:22

    Does he have a different role? Done a great job for everyone but think you need to listen to him mooooooooooing and hit the trade button

    JohnDJ59 · 29/05/2018 at 19:33

    I was going to trade Kelly out last week, but had problems in defence, he has now been traded to Rice, plus I needed some cash after two upgrades last weekend.

    Whatyasmokin · 30/05/2018 at 11:01

    Waste of cash I reckon. Could bleed another 30k

John · 29/05/2018 at 15:28

Hey boys would love your thoughts on my team

Laird Simpson Lloyd Sicily mirra (Keefe murphy)

Danger fyfe Mitchell Martin cogs cripps merret Walters (spargo Barry Phillips)

Gawn Martin (cameron)

McLean heeney smith mundy Fritsch Henry (Smith zgl)

15 trades left 330k in the bank

Thanks in advance

    Sam_01 · 29/05/2018 at 18:41

    Need to fix up your backline next week or you will cop a few 0s in first bye potentially mirra to Hurley if he is back next week? Or hope you can gather some playing rookies
    Also second bye you cop a double 0 in the ruck and your fwd you will have 2 0’s with current structure look to trade fristch in the coming weeks could go fristch to yeo after his bye via sicily swing then when you upgrade mirra you can grab a backman or swing Sicily back to finnish defence and grab a fwd

    SC_Sixty6 · 29/05/2018 at 18:47

    I would trade Henry and ZGL swing Walters fwd and get Smith up fwd then get an Uber premo in mid to finish it off!

Steeeve · 29/05/2018 at 15:32

I'm bringing in Smith for Dom Barry.

Then can't decide whether to bring in Walters for Petracca or Rice for Naughton.

If I choose not to take Rice or Ridley, I will be hoping Heron and Austin are worth picking up the week after for a defensive double downgrade.

    Dice_real · 29/05/2018 at 15:41

    I wouldn't miss Walters at this price

      Steeeve · 29/05/2018 at 16:00

      That's how I feel.
      I have Petracca and Charlie Curnow (who has not exceeded 86 since I brought him in after round 2) so Walters is going to help me cut a fake premo.

      Hope those defence rookies perform well again next week.

      Would you trade out Petracca (352k be45) or Curnow (402k be103)?

        Dice_real · 29/05/2018 at 16:07

        I'm keeping Petracca till his round 13 bye then gonna trade his arse, All goes to plan he's my last upgrade, the last 2 weeks he's been ok.
        Depends on your coin, if struggling give Charles the flick with that b/e

          Steeeve · 29/05/2018 at 17:06

          If Naughton is back Walter's will have to wait anyway. Will play it by ear

Keenbutclueless · 29/05/2018 at 15:51

See Kobe Mutch is likely to be missing for a number of weeks. Headaches apparently. Was surprised he was dropped. Guess we know why.

Johnny · 29/05/2018 at 16:09

Any love for Mitch Robinson? Or Dayne beams?

    Dice_real · 29/05/2018 at 16:27

    Robbo could be a bloody magnificent pod. Scores big when gets 30+ posis coz of his contested work.
    I like it

      gator59 · 29/05/2018 at 17:31

      I like the Robbo this week

    Russty_ · 29/05/2018 at 16:34

    Beamsy could be a good pod also Johnny, still struggling mentally with the death of his Dad but he pumped out a nice score last week after relinquishing the Captaincy to Zork

    prizza · 29/05/2018 at 18:06

    Can robbo behave , thats the big question, otherwise he is bringing it every week

      Johnny · 29/05/2018 at 18:16

      Have started beamsy the last 5yrs and feel incomplete without him in my side. But u feel Robinson is a bit smarter at this point with his dpp also.

      Ahmad rubas · 29/05/2018 at 18:59

      He is calmed down since joining Brisbane. Used to be a real hot head who would give away too many frees at Carlton now has cooled down a lot probably due to having children in his life now

Doc · 29/05/2018 at 16:13

Any particular reason why the podcast aren't available on the podcast app? Click on them and says it's temporarily unavailable? Is there a reason or is it just One Of Those Things™?

TRIGGA_HAPPY · 29/05/2018 at 16:21

Just a thought.
The next bye is rd 12 not rd 11 so if u are looking for coverage aka rocky you don't need him till next week.
Sure he may go up $30k but so will one of your rooks.
Give him another week and reassess.
Thats the plan.

    Russty_ · 29/05/2018 at 16:36

    Hey Trig, was thinking the same, normally wouldn't touch mr glassbody but if he whacks out another ton this week I might be tempted.

BlueBaggerJosh · 29/05/2018 at 16:27

Will be in an awkward position next week, still don't have Yeo or McLean but can't trade them in yet, will probably have to settle with the hoff and hope they both get cheaper in time for me to trade Doedee and Mirra to them

    Mousse · 29/05/2018 at 16:31

    Why do we need to know this???

      Russty_ · 29/05/2018 at 16:56

      Free speech mate, all opinions welcome here, you don't have to respond if you don't like it.

      SC_Sixty6 · 29/05/2018 at 17:26

      Jog on flog.

      BlueBaggerJosh · 29/05/2018 at 18:28

      just scroll past lol

    redherringfc · 29/05/2018 at 17:25

    I’d suggest you wait until round 13 to get Yeo, unless you’re swapping him for a player who also has a round 12 bye.

Juzzy · 29/05/2018 at 16:32

I know I shouldn’t but …
Open letter to SC and 66.
G’Day Community. In years gone by I have been a regular reader/poster here. I left that alone after the two self-appointed geniuses appeared. My 15 minute smoke and coffee break turned quite less pleasurable.
Supercoach is simple … pick a decent team, buy low, sell high, have a strategy, and enjoy the games on the weekend. It is Grade 3 maths. Also , and here’s where I find this interesting, it’s subjective. Anyone in life who will belittle or judge others for a subjective opinion immediately exposes themselves as ignorant and narcissistic. Hence … Every time I read one of your inflammatory posts I picture a child screaming “Everyone should know I am better than them at Grade 3 maths !” You are not curing cancer.
I would not have bothered had you not gone out of your way to chip away at community members who have been contributing for years. I cannot for the life of me figure out what you are hoping to achieve. Whatever that goal is you seem close. If it’s worth burning down a happy place then go at it.

    Dice_real · 29/05/2018 at 16:56

    Love it Juzzy. The funny thing is they don't realize we all have this opinion

    Mystic_Mac · 29/05/2018 at 17:05

    Bang on.

    Jack · 29/05/2018 at 17:06

    My 2 cents.
    Alot of their posts at the start of the year I didn't agree with. Mainly ones directed at the admin and writers of this site. I recall Kev copping it for rank last year, which I didn't like because I really enjoy reading his panic room article. Lek & Patch copped a bit early on (from more than these 2 tbh) for their podcast which I though was way out of line.
    However, to be fair of recent times their only posts which seem to be upsetting people are when people have a go at them first and they stand up for themselves/each other.
    So my advice would be everyone continues along being positive to each other for the best of the community alike.

      Rick Grimes · 29/05/2018 at 17:12

      They have improved, but typically the post will read as follows;

      Joe bloggs: "what do I do with billings?"
      66/wow: "can't believe you picked him the first place.
      Joe bloggs: "thought he'd keep up his 2017 form.
      66/wow: "rookie mistake. Terrible pick".
      Joe Bloggs: "steady on, mate. What makes you such an expert".
      66/wow: "look at my rank. Top 100 soon. Flog".
      Joe Bloggs: ***closes page***

        neil demons delight · 29/05/2018 at 17:43

        Agree Rick they have got better but like sicily can they remain FLOGLESS I hope so because lets face it they are both or one good at it but so are pieman and Tophawk Give him a chance NDD

          Rick Grimes · 29/05/2018 at 17:55

          Will do, NDD. Everyone deserves a 2nd chance.

            SC_Sixty6 · 29/05/2018 at 18:07

            Rick you've been given hundreds of chances……Negan was kind to you!

              Rick Grimes · 29/05/2018 at 20:42

              Yea I was more of a Rick fan back in the day when he ripped people's throats out with his bare teeth. Almost wanted Negan to cone out on top. Show is stuffed.

    SC_Sixty6 · 29/05/2018 at 17:56

    Yeah you shouldn't have. Pointless post just trying to dig up something that's already burried.

    Was a cute story though. 😘😘🙊🙊

      Juzzy · 29/05/2018 at 20:16

      A bit condescining.Anyway …
      Pointless . No. I wouldnt have thought so.

      A "cute story" ..,..really.

      Juzzy · 29/05/2018 at 20:17

      Narci … You fill in the rest of the word 'cos you are so smart …

        SC_Sixty6 · 29/05/2018 at 20:20

        No I'm only good at Grade 3 math! What's Narci?

        Yeh 'cute story' loved it. 😘

          Juzzy · 29/05/2018 at 20:50

          You have annoyed so many people. How does this resonate with you ?

            SC_Sixty6 · 29/05/2018 at 23:06

            Mate the trolls weeks ago annoyed people. As I'm still here I'm not the troll and have valuable insight.

            My IP was checked and cleared of trolling.

            Have a good night. 😘👌👈

    smart as s · 30/05/2018 at 00:10

    I totally agree, i reckon wow and 66 are two oversized keyboard warriors who dont have much going on in this beautiful lives of ours. Looking back at articles, their comments are everywhere attacking others or boasting themselves. Looking back in the next few years, they will ask themselves where did time go and how much more they could have done for themselves, their family and friends#YOLO

      Sc_Wow · 30/05/2018 at 07:55

      smart ass you have no idea mate. Building a house completing masters degree working full time. I’d say I’m pretty busy and that I look out for my family. My life is great. It’s been pointed out here that we started aggressively, something that I have apologised for. More recently we are defending our selfs, which you would expect anyone on here to do if they were getting singled out.
      Think twice before you assume people’s personal life’s, you know nothing about me

        Mystic_Mac · 30/05/2018 at 10:17

        The boy who cried wolf.

          Sc_Wow · 30/05/2018 at 10:21

          You think I’m lying? Sound a bit jealous mate
          What exactly do you bring to this community Mac other than joining in on the digs directed towards 66 and I? Get a new hobby and get over it like everyone else is

            Mystic_Mac · 30/05/2018 at 14:32

            I bring the spirit of the fighting Irish.. If one of us goes to war, we all go to war.

              SC_Sixty6 · 30/05/2018 at 16:08

              Just like your mate Connor. Flog. Go attack a bus full of people.

                Juzzy · 30/05/2018 at 16:37

                Perfect 66. Just perfect.

                Mystic_Mac · 30/05/2018 at 17:43

                Ouch! that one stung sixty

        smart as s · 30/05/2018 at 20:57

        I have 2 masters from latrobe and utas no s******g and working full time in a lab, somehow i dont hav that much time to comment on everyone n everything every two minutes.

          Sc_Wow · 30/05/2018 at 21:00

          Sounds like we’re in similar fields

          Russty_ · 30/05/2018 at 21:30

          Sounds like you're both smart, and can pish really far…(pishing contest even)…try and combine both your ample talents for good rather than evil lol.

          smart as s · 31/05/2018 at 07:23

          Gave too much information, surely my sc rival knows who i am now

Red pepper · 29/05/2018 at 16:38

Tim Smith. Melbourne did well recruiting him. Talented player but I hope he is not injury proned like some unlucky players in years gone by. In his first year (2017) he broke his ribs after playing a couple of games then sustained a dreadful foot injury that kept him out for the rest of the year. Fingers crossed for him. Still umming and arring whether I’ll trade ZGL and grab him.

    Russty_ · 29/05/2018 at 16:45

    We all hope that but you'd be mad not to get him, you'll make money both ways ..and hopefully he continues with his scoring as well,
    Giles Langdon ain't exactly setting the world on fire.

    Jack · 29/05/2018 at 16:51

    Broken ribs can happen to anyone. Foots more of a worry, but surely the bigger risk is not taking him

    neil demons delight · 29/05/2018 at 17:19

    They chose him over McInerney and chose correctly. ZGL to Smith is ideal. Strong whispers Balic is close They love his contested ball NDD

stevo · 29/05/2018 at 16:49

Jimmy Webster gonna be busy this week.

INPieman · 29/05/2018 at 17:24

SC Elites league ranked 28th overall. Well done fellas

    gator59 · 29/05/2018 at 17:26

    Yep and climbing Pieman

    NDD's A Graders is 29th too

      Sc_Wow · 29/05/2018 at 18:02

      Would love to join some of your leagues next year I like a good challenge. I’m in ruustys league and that’s my toughest one

        Sam_01 · 29/05/2018 at 18:03

        How did you score this week wow ?

          Sc_Wow · 29/05/2018 at 18:11

          A tad under 2400

      neil demons delight · 29/05/2018 at 19:44

      Been away gat haven't seen you here lately. What do you think of rice and don't say I like mine friend NDD

        gator59 · 29/05/2018 at 20:20

        Fried Rice is good Neil, The other Rice is good too…The only Saints worth bringing in are the rookies

          neil demons delight · 29/05/2018 at 22:34

          meant fried but you woke to it. Rice next week

            gator59 · 29/05/2018 at 22:40

            All good mate go for it

    TRIGGA_HAPPY · 29/05/2018 at 17:44

    With pie leading the way …. 👍

    hedski · 29/05/2018 at 18:38

    Great league, playing you in it this round Pie, finally hit a bit of form so hoping for a cracking match up!
    Shake and Bakes "Up there Cazaly" league ranked 44, playing Shake this round too.
    JUICY.

      gator59 · 29/05/2018 at 18:44

      Knew you would come good Hedski.. Keep it up mate

        hedski · 29/05/2018 at 18:58

        Ha ha, it took a couple of floggings from ya Gator but I finally got one back <img draggable="false" class="emoji" alt="👍" src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/2.4/svg/1f44d.svg"&gt; You're flying mate, climb those ranks.

          gator59 · 29/05/2018 at 20:24

          All good mate we can't win them all and great to have good banter from great opposition

          Considering the start I had while holidaying in Tassie with no internet and trading to get back in the game

          Shake_n_Bake_ · 30/05/2018 at 06:35

          What trades are you looking at doing this week Hedski?

            hedski · 30/05/2018 at 06:43

            Ha ha. Pretty vanilla shake, smith in, not sure on the other one yet.

              Shake_n_Bake_ · 30/05/2018 at 09:25

              Im looking at two playing rookies Rice and Smith for Garlett and Murphy dont think those two will get a look in over the bye rds. Need as many players playing in the coming month.

                hedski · 30/05/2018 at 10:11

                D.Fog to Smith for me, then upgrade TK, either Walters for value or a Treloar/Oliver type.
                Liking Walters, leaves me $140k and can swing him fwd when Fritsch ready to cull at his bye, bring a mid in then.
                Bit worried about his knee tho.

        SC_Sixty6 · 29/05/2018 at 19:22

        Crack top 100 this week Gator? What's your trades?

          gator59 · 29/05/2018 at 20:00

          ZGL and Kelly out and Smith an Robbo in

          Wont get to 100 this week but hoping to climb again after losing 260 spots last week

            SC_Sixty6 · 29/05/2018 at 20:09

            Spewing about going backwards. You'll get back up.

            Robbo!!!!! Nice pod. Hopefully can keep a level head. Flog material but showed on weekend what he can do against a good Sydney midfield.

              gator59 · 29/05/2018 at 20:29

              Hoping he can 66 and going huge in the wet… Hope he can keep his head and the Sicilflog

              I think he's a real good pod I should've got him a four weeks ago but opted for Mcrae instead and that worked out fine so far

                SC_Sixty6 · 29/05/2018 at 20:32

                Very smart on Macrae. I'm spewing I went with my head instead of gut and didn't take Macrae funny enough 4 weeks ago. When he got 189.

                Live n learn!

                  gator59 · 29/05/2018 at 20:43

                  yeah he's been great but maybe coming back to earth now

      Shake_n_Bake_ · 29/05/2018 at 20:14

      Looks like it will be alot tougher to beat you this yr Hedski!! But ill do my best!!

      INPieman · 29/05/2018 at 20:50

      We've had some cracking battles over the years Hedski. Always enjoyed & no love lost in the match up

    BrownlowBoy · 29/05/2018 at 19:39

    That's my league Pieman! With blokes like you, Patch and Damo leading the way! A very competitive league.

      INPieman · 29/05/2018 at 20:52

      You might need an entrance fee in the future BB. Well assembled

    stevo · 29/05/2018 at 20:26

    Now that's a COMMUNITY, good job fellas.

    Skindog · 29/05/2018 at 22:12

    great league, all must enjoy fingeringpiesmumliketherestofus, although she likesthefistingthesedays

Russty_ · 29/05/2018 at 17:32

Saw this on the AFL website…not included is that Darcy Parish is also ruled out for 2 months..

In a further blow for the Bombers, a calf injury will see defender Patrick Ambrose ruled out until at least until round 14.

Michael Hurley is expected to be back after missing the past two weeks with a hamstring injury as Essendon faces reigning premiers Richmond on Saturday night.

Youngster Kobe Mutch is unlikely to play again this weekend after a series of headaches in recent weeks.

Could mean Ridley keeps his spot for a bit longer for those who have him.

    Sc_Wow · 29/05/2018 at 17:37

    All I see is HURLEY is back yewwww

    Dildor · 30/05/2018 at 11:06

    Ridley is a gun. Watched him play a VFL game last year where he had 29 disposals at 100%. His ball use is out of this world. Came first at the draft combine for kicking too. Hope essendon keep playing the kid, he's a 100 ave of 18 touches player just waiting to happen.

    Kane · 30/05/2018 at 13:27

    Russty_ I'm pretty unlucky with that Cripps captain pick last round that we agreed on. I got 2457 and lost head to head by 30points. He had M. Robinson…. like wtf.

Rivo · 29/05/2018 at 17:58

Looking at he thread of comments on trade options, it appears that trading in a mid/fwd premo is wiser. Can bring Rocky in next week if needed. Thoughts please???

Option 1: T.Kelly & Higgins to McLean & T.Smith
Option 2: T.Kelly & Garlett to Boak & T.Smith
Option 3: T.Kelly & Garlett to Walters & T.Smith

    Rick Grimes · 29/05/2018 at 18:02

    Option 1 for mine.

      Rivo · 29/05/2018 at 20:37

      Cheers Rick. Doesn’t leave me too much cash but McLean is a lock top 6 fwd.

    gator59 · 29/05/2018 at 18:07

    Option one for me too

    JohnDJ59 · 29/05/2018 at 18:08

    All three are good in their own way, but for quality, option 1, for not sure what to do, option 2 and for value, option 3.

      Sam_01 · 29/05/2018 at 18:15

      Gartlet needs to go he is basically a donut won’t make any cash Higgins maybe has a tad left! You have missed out on most the post from mclean now so I reckon it’s better to jump on Walters and snag him while he is cheap he was averaging 110 at the start of the year and your gonna get him for 400k. Does depend on your bye structure though and who you thing will finnish in the top 6-10 mclean is a lock in the top 10 need to have him but Walters for mine at current valye

        Rivo · 29/05/2018 at 20:49

        Thanks Sam. Walters had a high ceiling & allows me to keep Higgins longer and have $100k heading to the byes. Would love to get McLean, but the upcoming byes mean focus on value. 👍🏽

    Dildor · 30/05/2018 at 11:07

    Option 1 IMO. Every week without McLean seems to leak points. He's a pure midfielder with forward eligibility.

Sam_01 · 29/05/2018 at 18:10

Curious on people’s
1.rank and trades left
2.how many premos to fill on field
3. How much cash on the bench/bank and how much is needed to finnish the team

I’m sitting 978 13 left after bringing in Walters and smith this week, was forced to trade a none playing bench rookie down to smith made minimal coin for it but I will just need blokes on the park come the byes. Have mirra and Spargo to go gonna need roughly 500k got stuff all rookie stocks on the bench need a bunch of freshies to rise

    SC_Sixty6 · 29/05/2018 at 18:17

    656 rank
    12 trades
    2 premo
    324k bank

      Sam_01 · 29/05/2018 at 18:26

      Who have you got to upgrade rookie wise 66

        SC_Sixty6 · 29/05/2018 at 18:40

        My rookies are mirra, spargo, guelfi, ZGL that are not quite upgradable but can get me to whom I need to complete my team. Other rookies are fresh so will be cover. Like Smith, Ridley, Phillips, Murphy.

          Sam_01 · 29/05/2018 at 18:48

          Jee I’m going to have to pull some cash out my arse or just downgrade like crazy and burn trades
          And hope I don’t cop more injuries
          Travelling along nicely there mate

            SC_Sixty6 · 29/05/2018 at 19:21

            Cheers. You're stuff all points behind me anyway. Anything can happen!

              prizza · 29/05/2018 at 20:03

              brought in a cheap kennedy and called him a prem also

              prizza · 29/05/2018 at 20:04

              Gibbs also a big worry as well ,, how well are you really travelling . ??

          prizza · 29/05/2018 at 20:02

          olango barry giro naughton

            SC_Sixty6 · 29/05/2018 at 20:05

            You forgot Higgins mate but you don't know my trades so naughty n Higgins I didn't mention. The other 3 is no point.

            Good to see you're following. Cute. 😘

              prizza · 30/05/2018 at 22:11

              Catching you out , no bullshiting please

                Sc_Wow · 31/05/2018 at 07:45

                You have a team full of playing rookies do you priz? Non playing rookies become quite valuable. Also I’m curious why haven’t you had a go at everyone one else mentioning JJK, I’ve seen a lot of regulars mentioning how he’s a great value premo. And there are no words of wisdom from prizza on those posts?
                Stop getting so concerned with other people’s teams and focus on your own

    ANTONIO = HODOR · 29/05/2018 at 19:03

    2836 rank
    15 trades
    3 premos
    30k bank

    JohnDJ59 · 29/05/2018 at 19:27

    37,838 rank, 12 trades, 6 premo, 389k kitty. My rookies are Doedee, Rice, Murphy, Duman, Holman, Finlayson, Banfield, Spargo, Fritsch, Ronke, Smith, Henry, Guelfi.

    Marty · 29/05/2018 at 19:30

    914 rank
    14 trades
    3 premos – Billings ya f**ker!
    95k in the bank

    johnno2908 · 29/05/2018 at 19:30

    1. 150 rank, 13 trades.
    2. 2, if you count Taranto in the forward line… which I'm leaning towards not after last week.
    3. $153.300 in the bank. Henry, Fritsch, Guelfi, Spargo can hopefully get me Macrae and Buddy. Got Worpel, Murphy and Keefe doing stuff all.

    Derek · 31/05/2018 at 09:02

    Rank: 13k
    Trades: 19
    Premiums to go: 6
    Bank: $156k

    I’m far to conservative for this game.

    The Ranger · 31/05/2018 at 09:22

    9K rank
    14 trades left after trading this week
    3 more keepers to get plus an offield swingset
    555K in the bank after trading this week

    NoLanguage · 31/05/2018 at 13:59

    1872 rank
    15 trades left after this week
    3 premos left including Hibberd
    $48k in the bank

Maverick_ · 29/05/2018 at 18:45

After sleeping on the rocky trade I am starting to get cold feet. I had ed curnow penciled in until I started gettin sucked into the rocky hype as tempting as the bye cover & price is ed will be a much safer selection.
But still plenty of time to be swayed back to rockliff! :/

    BlueBaggerJosh · 29/05/2018 at 19:13

    a lot of people leaving the rockliff thought process to a mad monday phase, ed curnow is a good pod mate, expect at least 1-2 130+ scores whilst murph is out. I'm contemplating Rockliff v Curnow as well.

    SC_Sixty6 · 29/05/2018 at 19:19

    Go Ed. Then you can sleep easy night before the game. Rocky we just don't know. You didn't put him in pre season so why now? The price? Maybe for bench cover but not a premo slot.

    Skindog · 29/05/2018 at 19:39

    Rocky is a watch, not going to go up hugely in price this week, about $20k, if he scores above 80, but cant see him going big so if he hits the tonne again then consider,and even then id be wary AF, very risky considering how hes been, ballsy to get him in after a 90 and a 100, put on hold like those Telstra dogs do !!!

    Whatyasmokin · 30/05/2018 at 05:55

    Rocky has to be an M9 or even a donut on the bench. If you can handle those possibilities then lock him in.

Marty · 29/05/2018 at 19:33

I know Zuohy 'on ya boot' has been discussed last week somewhat but any love for him at 414k for an M6? Much better than putting Riddler on the field this week.

    BlueBaggerJosh · 29/05/2018 at 19:38

    like it, maybe not at M6 though, dont rate him that highly

      Marty · 29/05/2018 at 21:13

      Two poor weeks of 25 and 51. Apart from that he would be averaging 93.75. I expect him to continue that average.

        Sc_Wow · 29/05/2018 at 21:17

        I think blue is suggesting that you play him in defence

          Marty · 29/05/2018 at 22:28

          Haha didnt realise i said M6 I mean D 6. Lucky I don't play battleships

    Whatyasmokin · 30/05/2018 at 05:54

    Like the option just got no time myself with other bargains popping up.

hadad · 29/05/2018 at 19:39

OUT
Kelly ($401,700)
IN
Rockliff ($374,900)
OUT
Barry ($182,400)
IN
Smith ($123,900)???

    dontblushbaby · 29/05/2018 at 22:01

    Do you have Danger ? IMO I'd be painting the fence this round or going double down and freeing up Cash for next week

    Whatyasmokin · 30/05/2018 at 05:53

    You might want to ditch a plumper rookie than Barry plus a zero on the mid bench can be a blessing to loophole etc.

BeenHereBefore · 29/05/2018 at 19:40

Trading Kelly to T Smith this week via spargo swing.

Unsure on 2nd rookie to cull from the list below:

Doedee, Richards, Duman
Barry, Phillips, Spargo, Holman
Guelfi, Fritsch, Ronke, ZGL

Thoughts?

    Whatyasmokin · 30/05/2018 at 05:51

    Hold Holman he'll now serve you well through all bye games. Barry may be recalled not sure.

    Wait for whos named and make the call.

neil demons delight · 29/05/2018 at 19:50

Off topic but for our NRL ppl who follow AFL also could BILLY SLATER ever have played AFL .He looks a natural let alone CAM SMITH NDD

    dontblushbaby · 29/05/2018 at 20:12

    Yep, Slater as an attacking 1/2 back, Smith in the Mid , I played both codes for 10 years but didn't set the world on fire

      neil demons delight · 29/05/2018 at 22:06

      Thanks Blush looked like they could, Both codes give me enjoyment but as a long long time member of both the mighty demons and the mighty EELS I haven't seen much joy. Doesn't work the other way though AFL boys playing NRL maybe Danger or Tich could play halves cheers NDD

Duce · 29/05/2018 at 20:25

I noted in an earlier post that Tim Smith helps out Big Max in the ruck. Is he that tall?

    Sc_Wow · 29/05/2018 at 21:30

    Nah he’s only a fwd pocket size. Melbourne just chuck him in for a few because they feel so bad that Gawn spanks the opposition all day

      Duce · 29/05/2018 at 22:00

      Ha, ha

    neil demons delight · 29/05/2018 at 22:49

    He is 194 and 94kg the same as Watts who was also used there. great competitor though. NDD

George S · 29/05/2018 at 20:27

Hey Guys
Just a plodder needing some advice please on 2 options I'm foolishly considering….
1. Kelly & Holman/Langdon to Walters/Rocky & Smith, or
2. Kelly and Holman to Walters & Rocky?? (using ~ 130K cash reserves)
Thanks for any advice

    TOPHAWK1 · 29/05/2018 at 21:03

    Hi George.

    These are not foolish options my friend.

    Option 1 combo is my pick. Kelly and Langdon to Rocky and Walters would be ideal. But looks like you will fall short cash wise.

    Save a trade and just punt Kelly to Rocky.

    Or, perhaps use that second trade to go Langdon to Smith. Walters will have to wait. Good luck mate!

    JugHead · 29/05/2018 at 21:11

    I'll be keeping Holman through the byes. Very good bye cover and has a BE of 12. Can squeeze a bit more cash out of him with luck.

    George S · 29/05/2018 at 22:28

    Thanks TopHawk and Jughead- good advice

Pod · 29/05/2018 at 20:38

Ur wlcm footywire go to source for everything afl related

TOPHAWK1 · 29/05/2018 at 20:41

Coaches who have 16+ trades at this point of the season and are playing for rank, like me, Rockliff is a no brainer. He has had a week off, his form and confidence is building, and with him playing throughout the byes, you have to be mentally defunct not to trade him in.

Like Lek said, it's a free hit!

If you are down to 12 trades or less, than you might want to look at other options. Just my take of course.

Guys like SC Wow and 66 might be running light on trades?.. 🙂

    Doc · 29/05/2018 at 20:54

    I think they are down on trades but they're also 2-3 (correct me if I'm wrong) players off full premo by trading hard and obviously getting lucky with a few starting players as well

      TOPHAWK1 · 29/05/2018 at 21:11

      No doubt Doc. They have had a good run with their starting side, had few injuries, suspensions, and have traded hard early in the season to get to their respective rankings. I am 4 short of full premo, with 17 trades and bringing in Rocky this week.

        Doc · 29/05/2018 at 21:40

        I'm in pretty much the same boat Toppa but have 5 rookies to that are yet to become premos.

    SC_Sixty6 · 29/05/2018 at 21:06

    Nice insight TH!

    Good for you that you're grabbing rocky. We were in your position 3 weeks ago in terms of premos so had rocky been available back then I would have got him like you are now. But as we are further progressed and now only 2 off full premo it's a different story.

    Rocky isn't a keeper, only cover for byes and bench. So goodluck.

      TOPHAWK1 · 29/05/2018 at 21:44

      Hey buddy. I have a mate who is ranked 96 this week and is considering bringing in Tom Rockliff. He is 2-3 off full premo and is ranked higher than you and Wowser combined.

        Sc_Wow · 29/05/2018 at 22:17

        Congratulations to your mate. I back my bye plans, maybe he works out for you two though <img draggable="false" class="emoji" alt="😊" src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/2.4/svg/1f60a.svg"&gt;

        I just had quick look at their team and it probably would be a good idea for them to bring in rocky as they have a number of non playing rookies so cash generation might be difficult, so a smart move on their behalf

        SC_Sixty6 · 29/05/2018 at 22:49

        Tell your mate great work from me!

        Maybe you can ask him for some advice seeing as he whoopin yo ass. Haha. Na it's a long season. But when he has Styles, Cameron, Keefe, Frampton, Worpel, Barry and Ratugolea…..no doubt his only option is to bring in rocky and he will stay at 2 premo to go as that is 0 cash generation.

        He has had a VERY lucky run boy o boy wowee

    Sc_Wow · 29/05/2018 at 21:07

    Cmon mate, as one of the respected members of this site surley you can post something constructive without having to have a dig at 66 and I for cheap likes.
    Yep I have less trades than you and I don’t have the luxury of seeing how rocky goes. Good luck though we all have different straitigies

      TOPHAWK1 · 29/05/2018 at 21:19

      "surley" is spelt like this: SURELY

      "straitigies" is spelt like this: STRATEGIES

      I hope your spelling lifts in coming weeks as your SC side is well ahead!

      Good luck mate.

        Sc_Wow · 29/05/2018 at 21:26

        Thanks mate had a few celebratory wines tonight so may be a tad drunk 😊

        I hope your SC side can rise to match your exceptional spelling standards 😉

        Just a question in regards to rocky, is it you plan to have him as an m9 or 8

          neil demons delight · 29/05/2018 at 21:43

          Is SPP even worth considering as an alternative to Rocky who I wont touch Both 373k both mids both have a high ceiling both have recent tons both play for the Power but only one doesn't have a need for sticky tape Surley SPP has to be considered as a mighty M8/9 cheers boys great stuff NDD

          TOPHAWK1 · 29/05/2018 at 21:52

          Celebrating early! I love your confidence.

          For me Rocky is a floater at this time. Too early to call.

          Cheers mate!

            Sc_Wow · 29/05/2018 at 22:05

            Was for something non SuperCoach related mate 😉

          SC_Sixty6 · 29/05/2018 at 23:00

          Grammar police is a last ditch effort for a pathetic post. He has rocky as M8. I've checked his team. He won't reach full premo. Unfortunate but happens!

    Claire · 29/05/2018 at 21:12

    I have enjoyed your comments (And advice) Tophawk. I have 16 trades, but now playing for leagues after a terrific start but still five off full squad and of course one needs 6-8 trades for the inevitable injuries, and I have had my fair share this year.
    I traded Buddy out when I heard he had a heel problem because they are a bugger of an injury to shake off. I have one spot left in my mids and won’t be getting Macrae because he is too expensive for me now.
    I am tempted to give Tim Kelly another week because he did have a good last quarter. If I trade him, in your opinion, should I get Rocky or Buddy. Buddy, who won’t get any cheaper could go berserk leading up to his bye but Rocky suits my bye structure better.
    Derek et al also free to comment if possible.

      TRIGGA_HAPPY · 29/05/2018 at 21:25

      As always look at your byes as buddy is rd 14

      But if you r gonna get him grab him this week the blues r his his playground and he is the biggest kid who is gonna have the most fun.

      He could go huuugee on Friday night.

      BrownlowBoy · 29/05/2018 at 21:26

      Hi Claire,

      Is this your first season of Supercoach? I feel I may have read a post earlier in the year from you saying you were new but I could be wrong?

      Do you mind sharing your team?

        Claire · 29/05/2018 at 22:06

        Yes, first year and have learnt a lot. Have been quiet re the forum because I had some bad weeks and put of by a couple of fellows making a lot of noise.

          BrownlowBoy · 29/05/2018 at 22:10

          How does your team look Claire? Would love to see it!

      TOPHAWK1 · 29/05/2018 at 21:32

      Hi Claire,

      Glad you are doing great in your leagues. I had a shocker this week! Won only one and had a draw in another out of the 10 leagues I am in this week.

      But as we know, a week is a long time in footy. I reckon that Kelly has to go. He has that nasty round 14 bye, and is now in freefall in losing cash. He just dropped $28K this week and has a BE of 136 going into round 11. (Could drop another $20K next week)

      Kelly to Rockliff for me! Rocky will play through the byes, he is cheap, and a proven gun. (Yes he can breakdown tho) Buddy can wait as he is now rolling into his round 14 bye without any real momentum.

      You have the trades, so why not take a chance on Rocky!

      Good luck Claire!

        Claire · 29/05/2018 at 22:19

        Hmm. The advice has got me pondering. Firstly, I’m not going great in my four leagues but hopefully I will improve.
        I think? I’ll put Heeney in the mid for my last mid spot and when I get some dosh in say four weeks I’ll move him back fwd.
        When I get Josh Kelly, a guy I like watching and who I traded out when I discovered he had OP. This will enable me to get Buddy this week because he is my favourite player. The great SCers play with their head but I sometimes pick players because I like them and until I eradicate that mentality I won’t be a top SCers, but you know what, I play for fun as well as wanting to win. Thanks for your comments everyone.

      neil demons delight · 29/05/2018 at 21:57

      Hi Clare amazingly I agree with all you said Macrae too dear, I traded buddy and will get him back Kelly worth another week too good a player not to,but with 5 left you may have to consider keeping Kelly longer especially with 16 trades. I don't trust those players with injury concerns Lids, Ablett, Rocky that's why I am leaning towards SPP (power-pepper) He has a b.e of 17 coming off 128 and a great game at that ,and goes up 40 k next 2 weeks .No brainer to me .Good luck for the rest of the year Claire NDD

      gator59 · 29/05/2018 at 22:38

      I grabbed Buddy last week Claire and even though he didn't perform he's a big chance to go huge this week

      Sometimes you just gotta go with your gut and do what you think is right … GL whatever you decide

        TRIGGA_HAPPY · 29/05/2018 at 22:52

        Shit gator dont tell me that i have u this week in the elites! <img draggable="false" class="emoji" alt="🙊" src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/2.4/svg/1f64a.svg"&gt;

          gator59 · 29/05/2018 at 23:39

          Buddy might get his rocks off this week trigga and go HUGE!!!….. Well i'm hoping he does

    Steeeve · 29/05/2018 at 21:41

    I have 18 trades. Problem is my mids are full. M8 is Crouch.

    AuroraBorealis?! · 29/05/2018 at 21:50

    Hey tophawk, big fan of what you bring to the community but i think it's time you stop with the constant digs at 66 and wow. Yes, i understand that in the past some of their comments could be taken as narcissistic and others as downright rude, but it's clear (at least in this article) that they are trying to be less inflammatory and generally more constructive. This is a fantastic community, and the only way to not ruin it is for both parties to grow up and (virtually) shake hands. Lets end the bullsh*t and the snide comments and focus on supercoach, like we used to back in the day. Cheers

      TOPHAWK1 · 29/05/2018 at 22:01

      Thanks mate. I just call it as I see it.

      SC_Sixty6 · 29/05/2018 at 23:09

      I commend you on standing up to TH, Aurora! At least you have the guts to say something as no one else seems to as the constant sarcasm and digs at us has come for a while now. Cheers mate. Keep it up

        AuroraBorealis?! · 29/05/2018 at 23:45

        I wouldn't necessarily call it standing up to him, merely stating something i felt needed to be said. Both parties are in the wrong in this scenario and i feel it would better serve the community if this little "spat" were to cease.

Marty · 29/05/2018 at 21:18

Prefer option 3

KSinny · 29/05/2018 at 21:19

Thoughts on what trades I should do over the next few weeks. I have $180k and 17 Trades.

DEF: Yeo, Laird, Howe, Sicily, Simmo, Ridley (Keefe, Murphy)

MID: Titch, Fyfe, Cripps, Oliver, Cogs, Dusty, Zerrett, Kelly (Spargo, Holman, Brayshaw)

RUC: Gawn, Nank (Olango)

FWD: McLean, Heeney, D.Smith, Fritsch, Ronke, Higgins (Henry, Guelfi)

Your thoughts and ideas would be most welcome community. Cheers

    Whatyasmokin · 30/05/2018 at 05:47

    Higgins and Brayshaw out Tim Smith and Walters in, Walters can hold a midfield spot until a reshuffle later on.

    Both rookies I mention have made their cash, and Walters an absolute bargain considering scoring potential. Smith might be the last must have rookie this season.

Will · 29/05/2018 at 21:23

What's everybody's thoughts on bringing in a discounted Pendlebury rather than an Andrew Gaff?

    BlueBaggerJosh · 29/05/2018 at 21:25

    Exactly what I was thinking. Heppell looks alright as well

      Whatyasmokin · 30/05/2018 at 05:45

      If Heppel looks alright why not Zaharakis both look eerily similar sc output and price.

BrownlowBoy · 29/05/2018 at 21:33

Sandilands won't play this week. Look for Grundy to go large again.

    Lekdog · 29/05/2018 at 21:38

    Should go bananas

      BrownlowBoy · 29/05/2018 at 21:45

      VC Gawn

      C Grundy

        dontblushbaby · 29/05/2018 at 21:51

        Already locked in BB, had these 2 rotating for 3 weeks now, Cha Ching

        Defying_Madness · 29/05/2018 at 22:25

        locked it in, been swapping them around for vc and c for weeks now

        SC_Sixty6 · 29/05/2018 at 22:55

        You read my mind BB! That was my plan and if Sandi were to play I was going Fyfe C. Grundy it is!

    Kazza · 29/05/2018 at 21:56

    Buddy VC
    Grundy C

Jack · 29/05/2018 at 21:33

No love for Angus Brayshaw community what is going on?
Number 3 draft pick playing in the midfield, 420k duel position defender, just had 40 touches & 3 goals, playing in the midfield in the most inform team in the competition…
Surely people aren't put off by a head knock or 2?
If this was Callum Mills, people would be going wild
Neal talk some sense into these people already??!!

    dontblushbaby · 29/05/2018 at 21:57

    Yes Jack, excellent value IMO for someone who needs a POD , DPP a bonus ,Cheers

    EricR · 29/05/2018 at 21:58

    Too many other much better players. I hope he continues to shine.
    You pick him and tell us what you think after the byes.

    neil demons delight · 29/05/2018 at 22:20

    Hi Jack ( sorry couldn't resist mate) Too many good dees at present If not for byes you could easily have 10 Think I am kidding Gawn Oliver Hogan Fritsch Spargo McDonald Brayshaw Smith Petracca and Hibberd all warrant thought .That's pretty amazing really. Balic will come in shortly and perform well tearing it up at casey If you had BRAYSHAW from the get go then well done His DPP could prove invaluable linked with Oconnor Cheers NDD

      TRIGGA_HAPPY · 29/05/2018 at 22:50

      Had brayshaw right up to rd 1 but when wasnt named mad scramble turned into bonner which didnt turn out too bad.
      Last def spot saved for Hurley after his bye but do like brayshaw just needs a clear run at it.
      Viney is another only so many points to go around no surprise some of those hta from gawn now go to viney instead of oliver and olivers scores have been reduced.

        neil demons delight · 29/05/2018 at 23:02

        Problem is too many good Dees Next year I am going to field the Melbourne team bugga it and I hear GATOR'S going to field the Saints squad Gator only a joke mate I know you won't have BILLINGS NDD

    Whatyasmokin · 30/05/2018 at 05:44

    Brayshaw always on my radar since he made his mark a few years ago but the concussion risk too high with low trades left for me.

    prizza · 30/05/2018 at 07:00

    If he gets a good run at it could be anything, natural footballer

Steeeve · 29/05/2018 at 21:42

So the thinking seems to be Rice has better job security than Ridley. Why?

    Doc · 29/05/2018 at 21:46

    Mainly because people are scared of Hurley returning and pushing The Riddler out of the side. With the injury to Ambrose though I think Ridley should be pretty safe to at least his bye

    BrownlowBoy · 29/05/2018 at 21:51

    Because Saints are trash and need to play kids.

    neil demons delight · 29/05/2018 at 23:09

    Gator said he is good and they will play the kids Why not.All they need is a top ruck and a kicking coach.A couple of the young boys are very good Coffield Rice and Phillips are the future. Time for your membrey types to go NDD

    Whatyasmokin · 30/05/2018 at 05:42

    It just makes more sense when one team is at ground zero the other is highly competitive when at their best.

    Shake_n_Bake_ · 30/05/2018 at 06:50

    And with Brown out and the 2 week suspension to Carlisle only helps.

Doc · 29/05/2018 at 21:45

Henry or Fritsch to Smith? Henry is a massive yoyo but trading Fritsch would bank more money?

    Ja191 · 29/05/2018 at 21:51

    Henry will score 50s for 4 weeks and drop the occasional ton. Fritsch is the last person I am looking at upgrading, if he keeps up his 80-90 scores he is a great on field option and will make some more coin. I'm personally also getting rid of henry this week.

    BrownlowBoy · 29/05/2018 at 21:51

    Henry

    TOPHAWK1 · 29/05/2018 at 21:56

    Henry.

    Whatyasmokin · 30/05/2018 at 10:53

    Henry playing Gold Coast this week? Flip a coin.

Phil · 29/05/2018 at 21:48

Which three?

Option 1: Gaff, Walters and Buddy
Option 2: Rockliff, Gray/Walters/Buddy and Webster

And also who out of Gray/Walters/Buddy to bring in if I do option 2 (would bring them in next week)

    BrownlowBoy · 29/05/2018 at 21:52

    1

    Tyruddanaut · 30/05/2018 at 07:07

    1

    Whatyasmokin · 30/05/2018 at 10:53

    2 is not bad if its a make or break charge for the top sitting outside the top 1k but not out of it. Ill be considering webster after the bye it doesn't look like just a lucky run.

DavidSA · 29/05/2018 at 22:10

I JUST WOKE UP!

    AuroraBorealis?! · 29/05/2018 at 22:12

    Like spiritually? Or physically

      TOPHAWK1 · 29/05/2018 at 22:17

      i AM AWAKE!

        DavidSA · 29/05/2018 at 22:20

        I HAVE WOKEN UP TO THE FACT THAT I AM THE ONE WHO IS LIKE MY MUM

          Defying_Madness · 29/05/2018 at 22:21

          interesting

            DavidSA · 29/05/2018 at 22:22

            Know who else is like my Mum Madness…

              DavidSA · 29/05/2018 at 22:23

              MY MUM 😂

                JugHead · 29/05/2018 at 22:25

                Sorry David, it wasn't a nightmare. Billings IS in your team…….

                  DavidSA · 29/05/2018 at 22:26

                  Haha man I actually did dream that I had Zac Dawson and Billings def/fwd swing 🤢

                    Jack · 29/05/2018 at 22:29

                    Damn that's better than my Sicily/Keefe combo as at least Dawson has a ceiling of 105 unlike Keefe

                    Russty_ · 30/05/2018 at 01:34

                    You know who else dreams about Zac Dawson and Jack Billings Dave?……

                    DavidSA · 30/05/2018 at 10:19

                    Derek?

                    Derek · 30/05/2018 at 12:36

                    Zac would make a good centre back for the German Soccer team

Ja191 · 30/05/2018 at 06:58

Thoughts on jjk instead of Walters as a pod?

    Tyruddanaut · 30/05/2018 at 07:05

    You should grab Walters. Don’t look for players just because they’re a POD, it’s pretty obvious that’s what you’re doing. JJK has been going shocking

      Ja191 · 30/05/2018 at 07:19

      Haha yeah only thing that’s worrying me is that knee

      Whatyasmokin · 30/05/2018 at 10:49

      Spot on. That saying JJK could be one to keep an eye on. BE of 53 can wait on it maybe after his bye consider.

    Dildor · 30/05/2018 at 10:54

    If youre after a decent POD, Caddy is shaping alright. He's an important part of the tigers lineup and with no prestia and maybe an injured reiwoldt he should be the benefactor of both more midfield time than isolation 1 on 1 deep in which he excels. He's kicking bags averaging 2 goals a game and 19 disposals. Looks the goods.

Jack · 30/05/2018 at 08:42

I know rucks change alot from year to year but who is gonna knock Gawn & Grundy off as 1-2 in the next 3-4 years given that Sandi, Kreuz, Goldy, Ryder are all on the wrong side of 30 and NicNat is fast approaching? Nankervis maybe?
Also, Melbourne & Collingwood are always going to have the same bye because of the Queen's birthday game.

    Sc_Wow · 30/05/2018 at 08:54

    It’s between Grundy Gawn and Nic Nat in the future for me

    TRIGGA_HAPPY · 30/05/2018 at 09:47

    An up and comer to keep an eye on next year when sandi retires is darcy. 😁

    JugHead · 30/05/2018 at 10:42

    Dunno. But when you figure it out, can you let Stephen Wells know?
    Zac Smith and Rhys Stanley aren't cutting it for Geelong.
    Ratugolea is a first year player and looked better than both of them until his injury.

      Dildor · 30/05/2018 at 10:48

      Around the ground yeah but not as a ruckman, he got smashed in the ruck

        JugHead · 30/05/2018 at 10:56

        Brad Ottens would go better than Smith and Stanley if he was using a walking frame. Hmmm…I wonder what Ottens is doing on weekends these days……

          BrownlowBoy · 30/05/2018 at 10:57

          Coaching at Geelong lol

      Jack · 30/05/2018 at 12:28

      What's the chances of Abbott getting a game you think fellas?

    The Ranger · 30/05/2018 at 14:24

    English is gonna be pretty good once he's eaten a few more pies.

Dildor · 30/05/2018 at 11:14

Im in a weird spot where next week i'm planning on bringing in Rockliff (providing he backs up with a ton), then one of Gray/Westhoff/Boak basically depending on which one scores best this week. Is this madness?

    DacZawson · 30/05/2018 at 12:27

    No that seems fair, if you're set on picking up Rocky.
    Although I wouldn't be just picking who scores highest this week. I'm sure you can make a logical decision about those three.
    All have reasons for picking them.
    Eg. Gray has highest ceiling
    Boak adjusted to his role well this year and has high floor plus a good run coming up at Adelaide Oval
    Westhoff looking like getting more ruck/mid time with Ryder carrying an injury

      Davo · 30/05/2018 at 12:55

      I'm thinking Boak. I think will be a reliable POD

SC_Sixty6 · 30/05/2018 at 12:35

Perfect 9 in the bag!!!!!

    DacZawson · 30/05/2018 at 13:03

    Cripps, Gawn, Sicily, Duncan, Goddard, Darling, Cunnington, Grundy and Lynch for me

    BrownlowBoy · 30/05/2018 at 14:58

    Heeney, Gawn, Mitchell, Dangerfield, Dusty, Darling, Martin, Grundy, Cogs

      SC_Sixty6 · 30/05/2018 at 16:06

      Sorry BB but you missed 4. 😉

      Lloyd, Kennedy, Zorko and Kelly.

TheGreatBozza · 30/05/2018 at 12:37

Had my sights set on Rocky for 2 weeks but I'm thinking of passing him up now for one of Heeney or Simpson. Who is the better pick?

B: Laird, Howe, Sicily, Savage, Doedee, Finlayson (Richards, Murhpy)
M: Titch, Fyfe, Danger, Dusty, Pendles, Crips, Cogs, Kelly (Higgins, Phillips, Holman)
R: Gawn, Grundy (Hayes)
F:: McLean, Smith, Walters, Billings, Fritsch, Ronke (Spargo, ZGL)

As you can see both my FWD & BACKS need work to bring in more premos. I've got 23 trades left

    cburgz · 30/05/2018 at 15:10

    i reckon get heeney this week and simpson after his bye, you could also go billings to rockliff next week if he backs it up again

    JohnDJ59 · 30/05/2018 at 18:08

    Billings > Heeney

Sully321 · 30/05/2018 at 15:36

what should I do with JJ? ive been stuck with him since the start of the year and I've just about had enough
and also what do we think of tom mcdonald? could be very handy through the byes with his fwd/def dpp especially since I have sicily and keefe in my side

    FFC · 30/05/2018 at 15:57

    i am considering but Melb have had an easy run of late. so keep that in mind. Other support through byes is considering Port/GCS players depending on who is in your side. is McDonald top 6 def/fwd's…not so sure.

    Filth Wizard · 30/05/2018 at 23:27

    Watch out for his toe reportedly still got issues with it.

Filth Wizard · 30/05/2018 at 16:30

Kruzer or Nic Nat finally getting rid of Jacobs forever.

    Derek · 31/05/2018 at 08:51

    WCE have kept his TOG around 60%. I cant see that increasing much because it is working. He gets to come on fresh and dominate. They also have Vardy back soon.

    He looks injury free.

      Filth Wizard · 01/06/2018 at 09:11

      So was that a yes to Natanui? Barry won't affect Naitanui I think he'll have to compete with Lycett.

Tyruddanaut · 30/05/2018 at 21:08

Dusty Martin or Tim Smith

hadad · 30/05/2018 at 21:12

t cole – k simpson (finish my defence off)
t kelly to t smith (generate some cash)

next week
out Matt Guelfi swing sicily forward in webster
out spargo in rokkie
out ????(worst mid price player) in rokkie
in two best mids for medium priced players

thoughts (i have 13 trades and 4 premos to fill

Tyruddanaut · 30/05/2018 at 21:14

Also, Fritsch or Holman for on field

hadad · 30/05/2018 at 21:19

OUT
Kelly ($401,700)
IN
Smith ($123,900)
OUT
Fogarty ($217,400)
IN
Rockliff ($374,900)

frigate · 30/05/2018 at 23:53

Good podcast guys! 2 thumbs up, a guitar sticker and a matching pair of googles to snorkel in.

OK, so rucks are a dilemma for me. I have Gawn, Sandi and English. Sandi needs to go. He has made 55k. and is at $536k. I have lots of cash, but need to start getting some more points. I am thinking going to Grundy. I can not see a better reliable option. I am not looking at Ryder, as my trades will be at 14 after this round, and I cannot afford another ruck trade.

Thoughts community?

    Glenn · 31/05/2018 at 01:20

    Hey, I have Sandi too. Been looking at Witts. Has similar average, will play all bye rounds and is $70k cheaper.. If you have the cash though go for Grundy. Hang on to English for now. Hope that helps frigate?

      Frigate · 01/06/2018 at 14:11

      Thanks Glenn, good luck with Witts – I did look at him, he has job security!

    Derek · 31/05/2018 at 08:48

    Grundy has some very tough match up over next 7 weeks. Although it looks like he has dodged Sandi this week.

smart as s · 31/05/2018 at 07:34

Paul ahern to debut…perfect timing for a rd 14 downdrade!

    Derek · 31/05/2018 at 08:44

    Nice

ROB14 · 31/05/2018 at 10:22

What are people's thoughts on Pendles?
pretty cheap..

    The Ranger · 31/05/2018 at 11:46

    Ok for a 100-105av but don't know if he can get that up to 110.
    Nice and cheap tho eh…

      ROB14 · 31/05/2018 at 14:06

      Is cheap, feel as if he could score 100 each week but not sure about the 150s anymore

r_calve · 31/05/2018 at 12:39

kelly to boak and barry to Smith,
good or bad

Monitoring · 31/05/2018 at 13:27

Hi guys I am a long time lurker very rare poster.

I was going quite well last week until Finlayson being out, L Murphy being dropped really messed up my plans.

I've got the following players who could be traded out:
finlayson, duman, naughton, L Murphy
Tim Kelly, Crowden, Holman
Fritsch, Stephenson

I am thinking I should trade out Duman and Tim Kelly

both have terrible byes and Duman hasn't even been playing.

My first option is to go
Duman > Tom Jonas
and
Tim Kelly > T Smith (via stephenson)

Second option is:
Duman > Ridley / Rice
T Kelly (or stephenson) > T Smith

What do you think community?

I am leaning to option #1 as it fixes me up through the byes a bit and Tom Jonas is a massive POD at 93 average, only 1% ownership.

    The Ranger · 31/05/2018 at 14:29

    Ross Lyin was quoted as saying that Duman will probably play this week.
    Naughton is gonna drop cash even if he plays so maybe look at him and Kelly.

      Monitoring · 31/05/2018 at 15:35

      good knowledge RE Duman

    cburgz · 31/05/2018 at 18:59

    naughton and kelly to rice and smith

Mark · 31/05/2018 at 13:44

Hey guys, thoughts on the team and what to do would be great.

Def: Lloyd, Webster, Yeo, Laird, Simpson, Doedee (Murray, Keefe)
Mid: Fyfe, Cripps, Mitchell, Oliver, Treloar, Coniglio, Merrett, Rockliff (Brayshaw, Spargo, Phillips)
Ruck: Martin, Gawn (McInerney)
Fwd: Gray, Heeney, Smith, Hogan, Fritsch, Ronke (Rioli, Fogarty)

Looking at going Fritsch & Rioli > McLean & Timothy Smith.

Have only 1,700 in the bank. Would leave me with 9,600 afterwards. Currently ranked 104.

    The Ranger · 31/05/2018 at 14:36

    With a rank like that you should probably be giving me tips Mark but I'd say whatever you do should be focused on the byes.
    Rioli – Smith seems a no brainer to raise some cash but McLean is pricey and about to have his bye
    Good to have a bank going thru the byes.
    Good luck mate.

      Mark · 31/05/2018 at 15:25

      lol, cheers:) McLean also has the benefit of DPP.

    Mark · 31/05/2018 at 15:24

    Unless I maybe bring in Westhoff who's cheaper and had his bye? Thoughts?

      FFC · 31/05/2018 at 15:41

      considering Westhoff myself – but already have McLean.

    BrownlowBoy · 31/05/2018 at 16:05

    Personally, I'd trade Brayshaw over Fritsch. You can sub Fogarty into the guts and keep Fritsch onfield, as he is scoring very well as of late. But that would mean you can't afford McLean.

    This comment is pointless because I don't have a solution

      Mark · 31/05/2018 at 16:25

      lol, won't get me to who I need, unfortunately. Cheers anyway

    Marty · 31/05/2018 at 21:54

    I'd consider Westoff. Would you not get Danger given that his average is climbing each week?

LEKDOGGIE · 31/05/2018 at 14:33

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Paule · 01/06/2018 at 16:52

Hey community, do I bring in Heeney or Walters. Walters price is hard to go past. But I think Heeney is a top 6 forward, Walters is a maybe top 6. Thoughts?

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