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HEROES, VILLAINS AND THE DAMNED

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Ladies and gentleman, we have a SuperCoach rookie bonanza on our hands. After a baron 2017 season, we are now blessed with a plethora of rookie options. It’s an embarrassment of riches for SuperCoaches at the minute, with eight young guns making their debut on the weekend. It was a low-scoring round this week, with par around the 2150 mark.

The Heroes

Melbourne’s ruck monster Max Gawn (168 SC) backed up his 151 from last week with another herculean performance. The big man had 42 hit outs and kicked two goals while also having an entertaining encounter with a Bombers supporter on the sidelines.

Fremantle midfielder Lachie Neale (151 SC) had an excellent game against West Coast yesterday, racking up 35 disposals, eight tackles and 15 contested possessions. Collingwood defender Jeremy Howe (150 SC) had a day out on Sunday with 30 possessions and 12 marks, as did Hawks running machine Isaac Smith (143 SC) on Saturday, with 24 touches at 91% DE to go with four goals.  

Midfield bulls Patrick Cripps (143 SC) and Jack McRae (141 SC) were both sublime for their sides on Friday night, with the former having 32 disposals, nine tackles, 24 contested possessions and 12 clearances and the later tallying 32 touches, seven marks, nine tackles and a goal.

Sydney ruckman Callum Sinclair (128 SC) has hit a rich patch of form and had 39 hit outs and 18 possessions at 89% DE on Saturday. Geelong opponent Joel Selwood (122 SC) was his side’s best and continues to fly under the radar with Dangerfield in the Cats side and Ablett soon to return.

West Coast pair Shannon Hurn (130 SC) and Jack Redden (128 SC) were two of the side’s best players in the derby win. West Coast’s captain had 31 possessions and 11 marks while Redden had 34 disposals and 16 contested possessions.

Other significant scores:  Justin Westoff(147 SC), Brad Ebert (139 SC), Mitch Robinson (130 SC), Ben McEvoy (129 SC), Tom T Lynch (127 SC), Lachie Whitfield (125 SC), Toby Nankervis (125 SC), Sam Gray (124 SC), Richard Dougless (124 SC), Cam Ellis-Yolmen (124 SC), Jared Polec (122 SC), Tom Phillips (120 SC), David Zaharakis (120 SC).

The Villains

The old man Kade Simpson (70 SC) was tagged by Caleb Daniel on Friday night, severely limiting his influence. With Docherty out of the Carlton side, teams are becoming more aware of Simpson’s influence off half back and may continue to attempt to shut him down in the future. Watch this space.

After a slow start to the season, Sam Menegola (70 SC) had been on fire in recent weeks. That was until Saturday. Like many of his Geelong teammates he was quiet in the side’s loss to Sydney.

Luke Parker (79 SC) continued his up and down season with another quiet game for the Swans. Despite the absence of a number of star players from the Sydney line up, Parker didn’t make much of an impact on the Geelong game.  

The Redeemers

Marcus Bontempelli (145 SC) has had an indifferent start to the season but boy did he bounce back in emphatic fashion on Friday night. The Bont ad 30 touches, seven tackles and four clearances. Fellow midfield ace Adam Treloar (148 SC) also had a match to remember on Sunday. Treloar had 37 possessions at 81% DE and appears to have cleaned up his disposal efficiency.

Sydney midfield general Josh P Kennedy (125 SC) almost singe-handily won the match for Sydney against Geelong on Saturday. The onballer had a brilliant final quarter and combined well with ruckman Callum Sinclair. He finished with 33 possessions and 13 clearances.

Years ago, Dayne Beams (130 SC) was one of the best SC midfielders in the competition. Injury has curtailed his career recently, but he appears to be getting back to his best based on what he produced for the Lions on the weekend. Speaking of reinvigorated players, Brett Deledio (111 SC) also looks to be rediscovering some of his best form. The injury-prone Giant has now smashed out three tons in a row and is making a case to be considered in top 8 forward calculations.

After a quiet two weeks, Tom Mitchell (126 SC) was back to his prolific best for the Hawks. He racked up 45 possessions and 10 clearances in a trademark display. Demon Michael Hibberd (96 SC) has been one of the most disappointing premiums so far, so it provided a small amount of solace to the coaches that still own him that he knocked out a near ton for Melbourne on Sunday.

The Prodigies

We have been blessed by an abundance of rookie options in recent weeks.

The likes of Ben Ronke (92 SC), Charlie Spargo (81 SC), Kobe Mutch (66 SC), James Worpel (64 SC), Flynn Appleby (59 SC), Oscar McInerney (53 SC), Nic Shipley (41 SC) and Jack Petruccelle (12 SC) played their first matches on the weekend, while Tom Cole (67 SC), Taylin Duman (53 SC) and Myles Poholke (18 SC) were among those to play their second matches for the season and are now on the bubble.

Tim Kelly (106 SC) continues to be a standout for rookie of the year, while Bayley Fritsch (91 SC) had his best match for the season after being dropped last week. Crows defender Tom Doedee (83 SC) was also very reliable.

Third gamers Jack Higgins (72 SC), David Mirra (71 SC) and Matt Guelfi (66 SC) were all solid, while popular defenders Jeremy Finlayson (65 SC) and Sam Murray (62 SC) were slightly down on their usual output.

Other rookie scores: Aaron Naughton (78 SC), Billy Gowers (78 SC), Esava Ratugolea (70 SC), Harry McKay (63 SC), Zac Giles-Langdon (60 SC), Jaidyn Stephenson (59 SC), Ed Richards (58 SC), Paddy Dow (59 SC), Zac Bailey (57 SC), Jack Henry (54 SC), Cameron Rayner (54 SC), Lachlan Fogarty (50 SC), Lochie O’Brien (39 SC), Dom Barry (35 SC), Nic Coffield (24 SC),

The Damned

The form of Jack Billings (47 SC) has become a serious concern. After booting 23.36 last year, Billings has returned 4.11 in six outings this season, with his wayward goal-kicking creating plenty of worries for his owners. He’s been goalless in three of those matches, and his disposal efficiency is a woeful 61.8 per cent.  Against the Hawks he had just 15 touches at 40% and booted 1.3.

Gun Brisbane midfielder Dayne Zorko (46 SC) has again proven he can’t handle a tag. He had just 10 disposals against GWS and registered another poultry score. This comes after a 37 in Round 5 and a 32 in Round 1. Teams will continue to target him so his owners must discard him ASAP. That sort of mediocrity can’t be accepted.

If you haven’t traded out Riley Bonner (53 SC) now is certainly the time to do so. He actually lost money this week and has reached his used-by date. The same can be said for young Gold Coast midfielder Nick Holman (33 SC). Despite having a low break even, his scoring has been erratic mixing scores in the 80s and 90s with a duo of returns in the 30s. His break even remains only 32, but the way he is tracking, it might be time to pull the pin early.

The perils of selecting key forwards have been on display in the form of Gold Coast spearhead Tom J Lynch (33 SC). The Suns captain smashed a monster 180 in Round 2 but hasn’t come to cracking a ton since. His owners should consider trading to a forward who will provide a more consistent output.

How did you go this weekend, community?

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No Homers Club

Does anybody have any suggestions on what to do with Billings? He’s relying too much on goals to boost his score and it just isn’t happening.

KSinny

Wondering the same thing, do we trade do we hold? Who knows

Multi_

At 400k I’m holding him

redherringfc

I’m holding for now. He will hit some form at some point and push his price up again. I’ll consider trading him when I can get some value out of him.

Derek

if it was clear who the top 8 forwards are it would be easy to move him out.

we might all have to get back on the lambert and menagola bandwagons, but until then we just suck it up and HOLD

Richard

He should be dropped this week to VFL to regain form,his confidence is shot

SC_Sixty_6

Unfortunately lost too much value to trade him out. Look at last season, started very slow and finished the season strongly. Very frustrating owning him, but I would continue too upgrade rookies first before trading Billings out.

WinnerRGrinners

I sold him last week, suggest you do the same. Not worth the money and only going to go down in price. Good luck.

PJ King

Holding is the best thing to do. Surely 6 weeks and no wins has got to be generating some desperation to win down at LHC. Perhaps Alan should make the boys watch some recent Carlton games, the game Brisbane almost won, and the Pies defeat of the Crows at Adelaide Oval. You know, show 'em what desperation to win looks like, and what the rewards are.

Don

Cripps or Macrae?

Crowboy94

Whatever one is better for your bye rounds

Sc_Wow

Both have the same bye. Both good options

King Larinox

They have the same bye. Toss of a coin for me, I’m running with both.

Don

Both have the same bye I believe

David C

Cripps slightly cheaper. Need to get both eventually.

theRealPod

Macrae. I can't wait to bring him in.

SC_Sixty_6

Cripps 20k cheaper

Dan

Maybe the one with lower % owners giving yourself a bit more of a POD.

Matt

Who is likely to be out longer, Walters or Greene?

Holty01

Ouch. Do u have both?

Judd

I have Walters, Greene and Petracca :')

Russty_

Petracca will walk straight back in this week.

David C

I'd say Walters.

SgtMarshallBB

Hey Community,

Unfortunately i have been faced with the problem of having Michael Walters, who went down with a grade 1 medial ligament knee injury, and has been ruled out for at least a month…. Now, i have replacements on my bench and i do not know whether to sideways him or to hold on to him for the time being, thoughts???

Holty01

I wouldnt consider this as a sideways trade when he is going to be out for over a month. This is a corrective trade. Go your hardest with this trade.

KSinny

Yeah definitely trade if he's out for a month

SC_Sixty_6

Potentially 4 weeks is too long to hold, especially since he could be picked up just over 400k soon after he returns

PJ King

Given the most recent news (2-3 weeks – small ligament supporting knee cap), I'm holding to preserve a trade. Also there are no clear replacements at this stage. Sure, Deledio looks good, but I don't trust that it will continue. Next week could be different, and I'll reassess on the latest news. Hold him and your precious trade for now.

Greg

Who is the best one to get rid of out of Holman, Dow, Brayshaw and Banfield for Neale? All have achievable breakevens but with 26 trades and close to 400k I need to make some moves!

redherringfc

I’m in a similar situation and had already decided to cull Holman, but looking at the stats Banfield might be the best to cut first.

Banfield is consistently around 50 to 60. If he keeps this up he has made most of his money. He is projected to go up 10k this round. The others are a bit more and then more again the following weeks.

Unless one of the others is dropped this week, Banfield’s getting the chop.

Derek

cull the fattest

David C

Holman will actually be quite useful through the byes if anyone still has him at that stage.

Keenbutclueless

Probably the most interesting point strategically in the season. Cash out the well performed rookies and take in the new batch now, or wring every last dollar out of this lot.

You can’t chase every rookie, but there are a few of the debutants that look like they might have strong cash earning potential. I would put Spargo, Mutch and Ronke in that bucket. Potentially Worpel also. In another year we would be getting Tom Cole in now also, but the depth in rookies plus his 170k price tag has most of us dismissing him relatively quickly.

The argument for taking on this new batch now is that they will probably be nearly cherry ripe when the byes roll around.

A couple of years ago, the guy who won the overall comp went early on upgrading rookies to premium, without getting the last dollar out of each of them. Last year you needed to do the opposite. This could be another year for going early. This crop of rookies coming through reinforces that.

I think I might break the rules and go early on Ronke and Mutch this week. Probably for Murphy and Langdon. The following week Holman and one of Banfield, Murray or Finlayson for Crouch and Worpel.

That will leave me with 18 keepers and 18 trades. That’s a disturbingly low number of trades, but enough to fill the last 4 slots, and maybe upgrade Mills and Petracca if needs be. My targets will be two midfielders, one defender and one forward. Probably Yeo, Martin, Heeney. Not sure on the last midfield spot. Given my round 14 bye looks bad already, Martin and Heeney look problematic if I want to go early.

Going back to my original point. A critical week strategically I think. Will you be sitting on your hands or getting aggressive and risky?

Sc_Wow

No need for plenty of trades if you’re full premo.

TheGreatBozza

It has certainly been a different season, having an abundance of rookies this early. I made a last minute decision (2 mins before the Pies vs Tigers game) to offload Brayshaw to Higgins. I think we need to pounce on the better performing rookies for the cash gen

INPieman

I think your right about Cole Keen. Many jumped on Coffield at 170k & he just sharted out a 24. No need for expensive rookies this season. 8 debutants this week. Go cheap

redherringfc

Oliver is priced at $570k with a BE of 145 and Mitchell is $602k with a BE of 156.

One this week, one next week (hopefully I’ll have the $$).

Who should I get first? I’m leaning toward Mitchell.

Sam_01

Definitely Mitchell I will be going early on Tim kelly to bring him in as it’s my last midfield spot to go!

Whatyasmokin

Although theres good reasons for going early on rookies I couldnt do that with Kelly he has scored like a premo averaging 99. Not only that hes done it vs good teams.

SC_Sixty_6

Mitchell

HallyMate

2216 with Walters and Holman on field, Sicily and Petracca on the bench
My injury curse continues with Zerrett Crouch Kelly Lobb Venables Petracca and finally Walters a week after trading him in, can’t cop a break this season

Phil

Wow! You dodged Kreuzer, but that's about it..unlucky

Ben

If Walters is out for a month who do we bring in?

Westhoff, McLean, Mundy, Buddy – all similar price 510-20k

Gray and Menegola too pricey I think

Cheaper options.. Deledio, Taranto, Gunston… Michael Barlow??

redherringfc

The Hoff looks damn good this year. I almost grabbed him last week, but decided I wanted one final turd from Zorko. He’s definitely on my radar after his bye.

Ben

Thanks red, I'll most likely bring him in!

SC_Sixty_6

Hoff looking very good, but I'd advise to wait a couple of weeks after Ryder comes back to see what changes happen to his scoring

Whatyasmokin

McLean or Mundy. Youd be crazy bringing in Barlow in my opinion.

gator59

Look at Mitch Robinson

Dominic Haley

I posed this same question. As expensive as Grey is, he is the only forward (I don't have) that I'm confident will finish top 3 in the FWD line. He must come into the team at some point so worth considering. The other option I had suggested was Mclean who I am hopeful will finish top 6. He doesn't seem to be getting much attention from the opposition so hopefully this continues.

Phil

Gray top3 is underselling him I think. I'd be astonished if, barring injury, he finishes anything other than number1

FreddoFrog

Breust looks ok. ave 116 over last 3. only 495k

fcabel

I like Lids. Mundy or McLean go alright. Gotta get Gray at some point. He's still value for his output

Stirlsy

2163 this week with Greene and Sicily sitting the game out for one reason or another.
New rank 2027 up 330 spots should of backed Gawn in with the C but decided to take Titches 126 as VC
Greene looks like a must trade probably to McLean and not sure if ill hold Bonner for 1 more week and Holman the same or flick one this week.
Dusty is my target player but his BE is 182 so thinking hold off for another week.

Sam_01

Gee treloar a bit stiff to be on the redeemers should have been heroes has gone under 100 once and has 116 average. Was doubting him as my pod selection after the first few games but boy I’ve been happy with his start

Holty01

Wow. If you had told me he was your pod selection at the beginning of the year i would of probably said "dont be silly, plenty of better options out there". But well done. He has certainly surprised me this season.

Sam_01

Yeah look being a pies fan sucked me into it more than anything, was only disposal efficiency holding him back, pies look like they are playing a new brand of footy and more like a team, expect treloar to have a big year!

Derek

anyone who has their copy of the Jock Reynolds magazine 2 will have already read the article on "How to milk the most cash out of your cows" a number of times.

But for those who don't have a copy, let me tap it out for you….

"Slaughter your cash cows at the right time.

This is as important a rookie management consideration as any other. it is also the most difficult to get right. let's have a look at how much cash the rookie class of 2016 generated each week over the course of their first 10 games of the season.

—-there is a nice graph with lots of wriggly lines—-

After 6 games our school of rookies had appreciated by an average of $145,000. By the end of their 10th game, they had added an average of only $40,000 to the total.

When you take your cash cows to slaughter is very much a case by case consideration. However, in general terms most of your rivals will hold onto their rookies for too long.

the net value of moving from appreciated rookies into point generating premiums quickly in most cases will outweigh the net value of holding onto the rookie for the purpose of an additional nominal price rise.

As with everything in this game there are some exceptions to the rule, but tending towards aggressively trading out rookies when weekly appreciation drops below $25,000 is a reasonable measure of thumb"

Derek

i have already traded out Holman and TKelly (although i might want that one back).

however my midfield looks like – Danger, Dusty, Fyfe, TMitch, Oliver, Parker, ZMerrett, Coniglio.

NoLanguage

Great advice Derek! I have Walters who is my first serious injury (touch wood) so will be getting qute aggressive this week with Holman up to Zerrett and Banfield to Spargo one week early- the kid looks a ready made player. New midfield will look like this…

Titch, Dusty, Fyfe, Cripps, Conglio, Parker, Zerrett, Kelly

Last spot will be for either Danger or Matty Crouch in a fortnight. Thoughts?

Derek

Like it. All about scoring points. Build the guts first.

zerowins

Should i trade finlayson and holman for danger and duman
Or holman and henry for sicily and duman

fcabel

The latter imo

Finnius

Stephenson to Spargo and Walters to Macrae. 190k in the bank.

Dnny

Virtual same. Baffled & Walters to Macrae & Spargo, but thinking Ronke better option than spurge

SC_Sixty6

Ronke will be out when swans guns are back

Simo

Has anyone heard how bad ZGL's injury is, as in no. weeks likely to miss?
cheers

INPieman

Waiting for the same news. Held him knowing he had a role. He's on 60 just before HT & Bang…. Bugger. Got a feeling it won't be good news

Derek

had him at start, traded him out when he was injured for Ryan, then traded him back in this week. i think it might be a few weeks

DacZawson

I did the exact same thing Derek. No choice but to hold him now I think.

Neverweaken

How long do we think Buddy might be out for? I can do a straight swap to Westoff. Or I can trade out Walters and Banfield for Westoff and Spargo.

Northernsoul74

Swans said today they don’t know.

fcabel

I wanna see Ryder's effect on the Hoff before considering

FreddoFrog

Buddy NOT playing this week
"Franklin has been struggling for the past month with a bruised heel which sidelined him for the Swans' 17-point victory over Geelong …..The 31-year-old sustained the injury against West Coast in round one and has been heavily restricted at training, although he was able to get through several games."
The club will provide a full HCF injury update on Tuesday afternoon at sydneyswans.com.au.

BingoBangoJingoJango

Walters and Naughton for Sicily and Oliver..Thoughts community?

Finnius

like it. Would trade murray before Naughton though.

Holty01

For those thinking about bringing jpk in this week, Sydney have Nth Melbourne. He may cop the Jacobs tag

NoLanguage

Yep! Good call Holty

Isaac

2125 with Billings, and Danger as captain

Holty01

Any news on Giles Langdon?

Blueth

an iced up knee means he aint gonna be around for a few weeks

Dominic Haley

Having to trade Walter this week, I've decided I'd rather not fork out for Gray as I want some spare cash for Danger in the next week or two. Thoughts on either Toby Mclean or Justin Westhoff as a POD? Who will likely average more by the end of the season?

SC_Sixty6

McLean. Good bye and Westhoff bad bye if you don't have good cover in rd 10

Derek

It’s not clear who the top forwards will be this year. Gray should be. Westoff won’t be far away, but he will give you a 30 at some stage this year. McLean keeps getting it done, had a slow start this week, 30ish at half time, might have missed boat. I would just wait for round 11 to get Gray, but if you have to trade Walters now, I’d almost bite the bullet and Pay the Price for Gray who will be a top 3 forward.

The Ranger

Surely Westhoffs scoring will be affected by the return of Ryder?
Nice pick if you traded him in when Ryder went down but I wouldn't be bringing him in now.

Dominic Haley

Yep, I just realised that… that's enough to turn me off him

Derek

good point

Crowboy94

McLean

CalebCripps922

I started with Mclean and am loving his output averaging 105 and plays predominantly mid.

Neverweaken

Tempted to pick up Hibberd if he gives another decent score next week. Maybe he will be better with TMac back

Disco

Tom mac is playing forward. Hibberd had a few intercept marks and kicked better, hopefully finding a better role for himself. Lever coming into side has caused problems for him. Also with kick in hogs like Bernie Vince he hasn't been able to get cheap points from Kick in.

Crowboy94

I'd give it another 2 weeks see If he can show some consistency.. I'd rather just keep Doedee Haha

1der

No Lewis this week also and Viney must be 2 -3 weeks away so Lewis may play +1 role.

fcabel

Hibbard very bad 👎

Sc_Wow

Was he taking kick ins again? Role is still different bombers were horrible he won’t get that everyweek

TRIGGA_HAPPY

Looks like have to change my fwd line.
Dash it. Thought it may be set for awhile but Walters may have to go.
Current fwd line:
Heeney, Gray, McLean, Walters, Smith, Tarranto. Fritsch/Henry.

Who to bring in?
Dont really like KPP, not another port player as already have gray?

Who else?
Sicily?

I could dpp with crowden putting either him or Fritsch on field and then trade walters for a mid -oliver,crouch,zerrett,mccrae etc?

Dunno. Just cant see a clear option up fwd.

BrownlowBoy

Billings!

TRIGGA_HAPPY

Too funny lmao

Davo

Believe it or not I am thinking of getting Sicily in, his potential average is good so would be just gambling on whether he has learnt any lessons about behavior yet.

BrownlowBoy

Sicily is a good option although no doubt he will get rubbed out again.

How about the Hoff or Mundy?

TRIGGA_HAPPY

Mundy is the one i keep circling back to.

neil demonsdelight

similar problem with same idea .Flog looks the best choice but I may keep walters and bench him

Northernsoul74

I reckon I’m going to try and hold Walters as well. It’s too long but don’t want to trade into more issues.

SirSamuel016

Thinking of making two trades this week.

Trade one is a corrective one of Walters to McLean. The next is trading a rookie to generate some cash. I'm thinking either Holman, Coffield, or Murray would generate some decent trash by offing them, although Holman and Murray good still generate some more cash. After the Walters to McLean trade I have 80K + Rookie's price to use, so any thoughts on this plan and any good downgrade targets?

Danny

I went early on Holman last week to get K Simpson (via Coffield DPP) and plan to turn Murray in to Macrae this week (via Coffield DPP).

I'm of the opinion to go early with the cash cow kill and bring in a Premo where you can a week or two ahead of everyone else.

Just my thoughts tho!

CalebCripps922

Hello Lads I scored 2117 this week
My Team:
DEF: Laird, Simpson, Savage,Finlayson, Doedee, Murray{Mirra, Murphy}
MID: Danger, Fyfe, Titch, Cripps, Conilglio, Kelly, Holman, Coffeild {Banfeild, LDU, Barry}
RUC: Gawn, Martin {Olango}
FWD: Gray, Heeney, Mclean, Smith, Billings, Christensen {Fritsch, Crowden}

23 Trades Left 70k in bank but not sure what to do. thinking to try and go Banfeild to Spargo and Holman to Merret but just might miss out on cash. Any Help Appreciated Community!

nankthetank

Having started with Zorko and sticking with him so far, I'm growing far too sick of him being unable to cope with a tag and getting scores that would be disappointing even for a rookie.
The problem now is that at $430K there's a hefty fee needed to sideways trade him.
So the options:
Do I stick with him, considering we know he CAN be a very good footballer, and hope that he can work his way around a tag.
Or do I use my $160K to sideways him straight to another premo, probably the likes of Cripps.
If I don't trade, I can trade Banfield and Holman to Cripps and a rookie on the bubble.
I'd love all thoughts about this because I'm currently torn about what to do.
Thanks community

Sc_Wow

Go JPK, Zorko is done

Jace

I traded him to Zac Merret last week, so far so good

SC_Sixty_6

If you don't have Sicily that could be a trade for Zorko. Only of the only premium's available that is at a similar price

BadgerHoney7

Had a shocker 2000 this week

Team looking like: 22 trades ($40k in bank)
DEF: Laird, Sicily, Shaw, Finlayson, Doedee, Murray (Murphy, Duman)
MID: Danger, Titch, Fyfe, Dusty, Cripps, Zerrett, JOM, T Kelly (Banfield, Barry, Garlett)
RUCK: Gawn, NicNat (Olango)
FWD: Robbie Gray, Heeney, Dev Smith, Billings, Christensen, Guelfi (Fritsch, Henry)

Thinking going double downgrade next week of Garlett and Banfield onto the plethora of rookies at the moment, thinking Spargo and Mutch/Worpel whoever performs the best, than the week after Henry up to Mclean to leave me with a pretty much premo MID, RUCK, FWD other than Christensen (think we can agree that Tim Kelly is scoring premo consistently now).

During byes I will go Doedee to Yeo after his bye, Murray to Simpson. Then after byes I will go Christensen to Walters.

The Ranger

Jeez this game does my head in sometimes.
I'm yet to have one week where I get to do the trades I'd spent last week carefully planning!
Walters going down means I have to trade him out and I think I might break my usually strict No Flog policy and jump on the Sicily train.
Desperate times call for desperate measures…

Derek

there is always something to deal with Ranger, try and have a plan, but it never seems to work out that way.

Walters was always going to be a big risk.

Injuries to key players always creates problems, and most of the time you don't see them coming, and as David will agree it is just bad luck. Kelly, Crouch, Sloane

But selecting Walters after he missed alot of last year with a knee injury is not bad luck. Its the same as picking Ablett, Rocky, cyril, hanners, BCrouch, Beams, JOM or Adams, you just know you are testing your luck picking them. The game is hard enough.

same with guys who are going to get suspended. you know who they are, but if you think the good outweighs the risk, go for it.

The Ranger

We each have to take our risk somewhere I guess Derek and one mans Walters is another mans Lycett.
The sane part of my brain says that I'm in a hole and should probably stop digging but there's another part that insists it can see light at the end of the tunnel.

Derek

Taking a risk is what the game is all about.

Lycett wasn’t ever a keeper, I could have (and almost did) flick him round 2. Where people were getting Walters as a season long keeper.

r_calve

who do i trade for wlaters, heeney, gray, westhoff, mundy or anyone else

need help please!!!!

SgtMarshallBB

well im not sure who Wlaters is, but he sounds like a bit of a bum, so i reckon give him the boot for Walters…

DavidSA

Price on Gray has just about hiked
Mundy been super consistent still good value
Heeney is the top Swan

SgtMarshallBB

Please leave me your thoughts on the following options:
1. Walters and Bonner out, for, Hurley and Spargo
or
2. Walters and Bonner out, for, Heeney and Duman
Either one i am fine with, but am doubting Duman's job security, so therefore am swaying towards option 1! And i am not afraid of going early on one of the rookies, either Spargo or Worpel.

DavidSA

Swing Sicily fwd Franklin and Finlayson out > Hurley and Howe in
Next week trade Doedee swing Sicily in D6 and get McLean who might drop another 5-10k

Finishes Defence Laird, Simpson, Hurley, Sicily, Howe, Shaw

Derek

pretty solid defense DavidSA. Can't argue with them

Simo

Anyone Collingwood peeps know what Appleby's JS will be like? Unsure whether to trade Naughton to Duman this week to generate some cash.

INPieman

He was pretty good yesterday. Wouldn't like his chances when Darcy Moore is available

Simo

Thanks Pieman. Does Reid's injury help Appleby in anyway?

INPieman

Possibly. Elliott likely to take the forward role but & Moore down back

The Ranger

Langdon was just managed wasn't he?
I'd expect him to be straight back in too.

Steeeve

My goal is to pick up Dusty and Matt Crouch. This will complete my midfield.
To do so will require at least one more downgrade.

Should I
A. Go early on two one gamers then upgrade to Crouch and Dusty next week?
Upside is full premo midfield sooner. Downside is cows not fully fattened and rookies may not play more games. This is the high risk high reward play.

B. Trade in one first gamer (Spargo) this week then Dusty and a bubble boy next week. Then Crouch week after that.
Upside is get one premo soon, fatten a cash cow more and ensure I get at least one rookie who will make money.
Downside is Spargo might not play 3 games and cows might not be fattened fully.
This is the medium risk play.

C. Wait this week. Double downgrade next week to two bubble boys. Then bring in Dusty and Crouch the week after.
Upside is more cow milking, guaranteed third game rookies (two of em) and cheapest possible Dusty/Crouch (probably). Downside is waiting two more weeks for a full premo midfield.
This is the low risk play but could cost me some ranking.

Anyone in a similar situation? What is the best love? I care about rank and leagues (in a cash league)…

JugHead

Im in a similar position. Im kinda doing option B with a twist. I strongly believe that this time of the season, as well as slaughter the odd cow, you flush the turds out of your team.
I don't judge players on one week, and I gave Hibberd 5 weeks to show me what he had. Thats long enough.and last round he became Cripps. This week its Petracca. Took a punt on him at the start of the season, but he is not scoring big or making cash, so out he goes.
Strictly guns and rookies only from here on for me. The way I look at it, Petracca types will give me more cash to do a decent upgrade, while letting a cow gatten a bit more. Last week Hibberd and LDU got swapped for Cripps and Higgins. This week Petracca and a maxed out low scoring cow for another proven keeper and fresh cow. IMO, some ppl persevere too long with non performing or injured premos who burn them all season.
We have seen it in psst seasons with Heater, Rockliff and othets. Sorry about the rant.
So…. I suggest biting the bullet if you have a high priced non performer to supply a large wad of cash for trades. 400~500K injured players or low scorers will kill you in the byes.

Steeeve

Good call — I could consider petracca.
Luckily I already have 400k in the kitty so one downgrade of a fat rookie (Holman) will get me enough to upgrade Brayshaw and Banfield to Dusty and Crouch. If needed I can also slaughter one other rookie to bring in two promising bubble boys.
Ronke looked great but I'm not sure he can hold his spot long enough.

Derek

Who are your top 8 forwards?

The question is tough.

Steeeve

Looks like you need Heeney, McLean, Robbie Gray… after that it is anybody's guess.
That's why I am personally holding Petracca. Even if he sits around 85 that will be ample to straight swap into a Franklin type later in the year.

Marty

Long way out to call for top 8 forwards and so changeable based on injuries – my forecast would be Gray Heeney McLean, Sicily, Menegola, Deledio, Mundy and perhaps Westoff

SC_Sixty_6

C, look for Duman this week if you want to downgrade, only viable option available.

Steeeve

Tending to agree. Just frustrating waiting an extra two rounds before I pick up Crouch and Dusty, both of whom could bang out 140s until then!

1der

The sooner you have your midfield set then you can concentrate on other areas rather than tossing up which rookie to be on the field. Take the chance on first gamers getting a game and generating cash on the side. Crouch should lose $25,000 – $35,000 next game and Martin $20,000 – $30,000.
The only downside is with Dusty as he appears to be in second gear and switches on when needed. He has nothing to prove as he had a season that was unrivalled in 2018.

1der

Should be 2017

Steeeve

The ultra aggressive play is to bring in the rookies this week then the guns the next. Will probably cost me over $50,000 but is an extra week with the guns in the long run. If the rookies keep playing it's worth it, but seems a bit too risky for mine.

Russty_

Problem is…nothing is set in Supercoach, you can think your mids are set and then there's injuries, spud performances, etc..better off sureing up all lines gradually I reckon, and not just focusing on one.

StevoRivo

2145 with Ticth captain over Gawn :-(.
26 trades & $265k.
Thinking Holman & Langdon to Crouch & Duman (bubble rookie). Go now or wait a week as Crouch price will drop further and another bubble rook will appear?

StevoRivo

Should add that I don’t have Oliver or Zerrett, but feel that Crouch will score better in a stronger team.

CalebCripps922

Hello Lads I have 23 trades left and 70k in the bank
Should i go LDU down to Spargo this week to give me 140k and then next week go Banfeild to Worpel and Holman to Zerrett or hold the LDU trade.

Andrew

Stephenson to McLean or Sicily?
McLean I feel will produce a greater output but bringing in Sicily saves me 70k and will help me get Danger in the next couple weeks

INPieman

I've had Sicily & McLean since the start. I'd go McLean in a heartbeat. Sicily has had 3 tonnes 1 turd & rubbed out twice already. Good Toby has been great

SC_Sixty_6

Sicily, much better value

Steve

Bonner to Seedsman or Howe?

Steve

or Lloyd? 🙂

INPieman

It's fun having Howe in your team. Had him all last season. Looks to be coming into form & he can go very big. But he does drop turds when he gets tagged

Whatyasmokin

Hurley, YoYo, Lloyd then Howe. In that order for me. Laird must have. Not sure on number 6. Could even be a flog.

Defying_Madness

Missed Simpson? I reckon Ryan and Sicily are decent chances for top 6 as well

Russty_

I actually like Seedsman Steve, many will disagree but he has posted the numbers, could've been premo if he had stayed fit in the past, but averaging 93 this year and still affordable and dpp.

TommyC99

Can get either crouch or JPK, but can’t get both. Can get JPK now or wait another week or 2 for crouch. Which one community?

INPieman

I'd steer of JPK this week. The Swans play North & JPK has a date with Jacobs

Derek

Parker will be hiding in the forward line somewhere

SC_Sixty_6

Can't see JPK a top 8 mid. Crouch can be

Derek

Crouch is in my top 7 mids for the year. get him

Jim_bob321

So pretty much I have Walters and Buddy
Thinking of trading Holman to Spargo for the DPP so I can get another midfielder….
Can get anyone, already have Bont so don't want macrae as it will ruin my bye structure
Thinking Adam Treloar… can the community help thanks

SC_Sixty_6

Neale or Merrett are great value at the moment. Next week Oliver and Crouch would be great options. Can't recommend Treloar at almost 600k with the cheaper options available.

Derek

have a quick look in the 'bargain bin' out the front.

i see JPK in there for only $441k, Parker for $482k, Neale $523k and Zmerrett at only $506k

all four are in the group of players just outside the top 7. all very durable as well. I think most teams might need to have one or maybe two from that group this year if you can get them at the right price.

Jim_bob321

What about Joel Selwood..
Don't trust Merrett nor Dons..
And Neale won't exactly suit my bye structure

Sc_Wow

Neale and Joel have the same bye

Shake_n_Bake_

Question mark on Treloar playing this week.

Tyruddanaut

Can someone give me some help with fallen premiums? I am aware of JPK, but will hold off while he cops a Jacobs tag. I have McLean, Smith and Savage.
Also looking at some rookies and premiums next week but will go early on rookies if necessary

Petracconaldo

Neale is down 75k from his starting price of 600k, Oliver is only 570k but he'll drop further potentially and Matt Crouch will be at a bargain price in the upcoming weeks

Skindog

Wouldnt call Savage a premo Tyru, or Smith, what posi are you looking at??

Tyruddanaut

Any position. Just need them this week. Hopefully two

Marty

Crouch after this week or Titch. Danger or Oliver the week after

Jeff

Which 6 defenders will outscore Savage?

Laird, Hurley, Simpson, Yeo sure but who else? I would have thought a top 6 position player would class as a premium

Marty

Laird Hurley Simpson Sicily Hurn Yeo

TommyC99

Matt crouch will be juicy in a week or 2

Steeeve

Merrett is still a bargain.
If you have plums you could try Parker.
If you have HUGE plums you could try Zorko.

Tyruddanaut

Got Zerrett last week and he is king!
I’ll think of Parker but I’ll have to adjust my structures
Only got rid of Zorko two weeks ago. Good riddance

TOPHAWK1

Traded in Oliver (for Brayshaw) and Mirra last week.My next target is Toby McLean. I could trade out Holman and go early on Spargo and then trade out Christensen for McLean. I don't have Buddy, and Walters. No injuries up front. I am leaning to hold my trades this week. I can sit back and have another look at those rookies before they go on the bubble and let McLean play one more round with a current BE of 122. Next week I will have clarity on the rooks, and McLean will hopefully be similarly priced or even cheaper. Holman has a BE of 35 so no urgency there. Christensen BE of 87 and might leak a bit of cash. Do I sit tight or get aggressive and pull the trade lever this week? Cheers community.

Derek

it doesn't look like you will gain any coin holding, but you might miss some points.

TOPHAWK1

Perhaps just bite the bullet and push forward and get Spargo early and McLean. Just get it over and done with. Thanks Derek.

Jono

Hey Big Carl, great article mate my team is starting to get very solid!! It consists of

Defenders; Yeo,Hurley,Laird,Doedee,Murray and Finlayson (Naughton and Redman)

Mids:
Danger, Fyfe, Mitchell, Dusty, T.Kelly, Coffield, Holman and Banfield (Garlett,Barry,England)

Rucks:
Gawn and Nic Nat (Cameron)

Forwards:
Walters,Robinson,Billings,Stephenson, Rayner and Crowden. (Buddy and Fritsch)!

What should I do with Walters??

I scored 1,849!
Let me know ya thoughts who I should have as captain and vice captain for this week’s games!!
24 trades left and $534.5k in the bank!!

FreddoFrog

Get Cripps and Macrae but don't trade TKelly or any of your defenders to do it.

Jono

I did a trade yesterday, thoughts on Walters to Devon Smith!! Then next week I will possibly do Holman and Banfield to Worpel and Spargo respectively.

Da Boysh

Hi community!

Ranked 411th overall pretty happy but I am stuck,
24 trades 120k in the bank. I am in real trouble around my byes as we all ar I think – round 13 is going to hurt. I need to decide whether I start pulling the trigger on these cash cows or hold a bit longer – I want to get Danger/Macrae/Mclean all in ASAP given the dogs have the nice bye round and Danger will bottom out soonish. I am worried about these new rookies I missed Mirra and Higgins and I am worried it may have been the big mistake of my season.. any advice is appreciated.

DEF: Laird, Hurley, Shaw, Doedee, Murray, Naughton (Richards, Murphy)

MID: Titch,Fyfe, Dusty, Coniglio, Cripps, Merrett, Kelly, Finlayson (Holman, Coffield, Banfield)

RUC: Gawn, Nank (Lavender)

FWD: Gray, Heeney, Sicaflog, Petracca, Smith, Fritsch (ZGL, Guelfi)

Derek

Start the cull. The fatest ones first

Mirra and Higgins both have some JS issues, time will tell. Can’t have them all

Da Boysh

What about these rookies who have not played their second game.. too risky? i didnt watch them play

Russty_

Spargo had a d/e of around 90,and kicked a few goals, Ronke looked good too but could go straight out when Buddy gets back.

joe

HOPE U LIKE THIS MOVE HOLMAN INTO SPARGO AND PETRACCA INTO MIDS AND SWAP 4 MACRAE

Da Boysh

Thanks Joe, definitely considering it

Valens_FC

Congrats on the great start to the season and you're in an excellent position with only 6 trades used.

Probably a small window of opportunity missed in the week just gone, but I don't think it will be season defining for you…. you're ranked 411 after all! This week a better one for upgrades than downgrades. Next week good for downgrades with Spargo, Worpel and Ronke at this stage all looking good options. Going early always a risk but might be worth doing in your case this week so you can paint the fence and do one upgrade this week.

Think a cull of Finlayson (or Murray via DPP) and Holman this week for say Spargo plus one of your upgrade targets could be a good play. You won't need that level of cover in midfield especially with Kelly holding down M8. Holman has tough fixtures now and definitely needs to go.

Da Boysh

Great feedback thanks!
I think I will go Murray and Holman to either Macrae/Yeo and Spargo then double downgrade next week. I’ve been fortunate enough to avoid injuries so might as well press the advantage!

Valens_FC

Sounds like a good plan – your team will be in much better shape than most. Only 5 on field rookies after these moves and barring injury that should be down to 3 within two weeks. Once you've done that, you'll be closing in on the $50k!

Da Boysh

Thanks mate!
I cannot get Macrae if I move Holman on.. I need to get rid of Banfield otherwise I am 2k short 🙁

Petracconaldo

I have a slight dilemma:
Holman and Banfield have potentially peaked and im looking to trade them up, however i was one of the unlucky souls that picked Billings this year. Should my focus be on upgrading my rookies to a mid that I rate highly in Pat Cripps or should i get rid of Billings?

Midfield:
Fyfe, Martin, Mitchell, Macrae, Oliver, Kelly, Holman, Banfield (Barry, Brayshaw, Fogarty)
Forward:
Heeney, McLean, Smith, Billings, Stephenson, Higgins (Fritch, Guelfi)

Tyruddanaut

Holman still has a BE of 35. He averages 34 as a pressure forward and much more as a tagger. Hold and downgrade next week. And yes Billings is ought to go

Petracconaldo

I think im going to have to hold Billings, i feel that the best trade this week is bringing in Crippsy and though it may come back to bite me, holding Billings until the byes may allow me to maximize my options. I dont feel comfortable using so many trades (i have 23 right now), is that a decent number of trades this season? I havent had to 'waste' any trades this year, they've strictly either been downgrades or replacing injured players

Petracconaldo

Wait no, i have to get rid of him…Who would you suggest to bring in to the Fwd line for Billings?

Russty_

I like Mclean or Taranto if you don't already own em…both doing pretty well.

Skindog

I'm getting rid of Spudings, no more of that crap, if you've got cash, upgrade him Naldo, theres a couple there, a couple of risk vs reward kinda guys also if you have the stones.

Whatyasmokin

Ill throw one out there…….Dixon may do better with Ryder back soon. Although id wait till their bye is over now for any port player.

Simo

I have enough $$ to turn Holman into Zach Merrett or Lachie Neale. Who do you suggest out of these 2?

Skindog

Neale all the way Simo

Sam_01

Can’t remember where Essendon have their bye but there’s a lot of big names out in freos bye round. Both will
Average the same, id base it off your structures

Derek

Merrett much better bye

Steve

Hey community

With 516K who do I bring in for Walters?

I already have Mclean Heeney and unfortunately Billings

Im tossing up between either Sicily, Acres or Devon Smith?

Let me know your thoughts community!

Simo

Taranto = Jet

Sam_01

Interesting there on the Timmy Taranto call, he has been producing well recently. I’m in the same boat strapped for cash I’ve put Mundy in but it’s forced me to downgrade Murray to the freo rookie which I didn’t want to do. May take Taranto into consideration would love to hear everyone’s thoughts on him

Whatyasmokin

Devon Smith I stand by my pick of starting with him, doesnt have the risk of role change (Taranto) or Tooth length (Barlow).

Could consider Wallis or Boak for a POD.

Ryan

Is mitch Robinson worth trading to in the forward line for Walters or Billings?

He is averaging 102 with 1 scores below 90?

Sam_01

He might get a week for an off the ball incident may have to look elsewhere

Petracconaldo

Pull the trigger

Sc_Wow

Wasn’t that Roberton

Russty_

Nah Robertson, Roberton has the heart issue…and Robinson will probably get suspended next week..lol

Whatyasmokin

This is my only problem with him as a pick. Wallis and Boak better picks.

Ross 'sexpest' lyon

Trading billings for robinson is the definition of sideways (if not backwards). very suspect pick. Better options out there!

Russty_

I wouldn't say that…Robinson so far, is having his best year yet, and billings is having one of his worst.

Danners

Did notice this, with the lack of standout forwards, looks to be a solid POD

Sellars1226

Kent and Brayshaw for Caddy and Spargo? Other option was to go Zac Fisher and Spargo but I’m leaning towards Caddy

Ross 'sexpest' lyon

Certain PODs, but personally wouldnt touch kent or caddy mate, surely you have some other options up your sleeve? Trust your gut

Skindog

Caddy's too up and down, its a no from me lol

Whatyasmokin

Id take Wallis or boak personally.

simon

Finlayson and Banfield out
titch and spargo in

thoughts?

Sam_01

Worth waiting another week on it, Finlayson and Banfield should go up a touch more and mitchel with a break even of 156will drop 17.5k if he scores a 120

Tyruddanaut

You have to hold Finlayson!!!
Titch will still decrease in price and you shouldn’t go early on rookies

Whatyasmokin

Nah, could be losing cash whilst gaining a donut.

Sam_01

Anyone watch the freo game or go for freo
What’s T.Dumans job security like worth bringing him in? Need to start culling rookies for the upcoming trade ins namely titch next week!
Also Deledio or Taranto what’s everyone’s thoughts on them, Walters injured has caused me a headache. May have to downgrade Murray doeedee or Finlayson to Duman to get rid of Walters I’m strapped for cash! Currently thinking Murray to go and bring in Mundy for Walters

Tyruddanaut

Can’t answer your first bit

I’m not keen on Deledio but Taranto is a great young prospect. Will continue scoring 90+ average until Scully returns.

If you are to trade a defender rookie, don’t trade those three. Seek value in your trades. Surely you have a better rookie to cull.

Try Kennedy, Parker or hold a week for Gibbs, Simmo or someone else

Sam_01

Sitting ranked 1500 team as follows!
Back: laird, yeo, finnlayson, murray, doedee, mirra (Murphy, o”keefe)
Mid: danger, dusty, Fyfe, treloar, cripps, Oliver, cogs, tkelly (Barry, Holman, Banfield)
Ruck: Gawn nicnat (olango)
Fwd: heeny, McLean, Walters, Sicily, smith, fristch (ZGL, Crowden) only 14k in the bank. Last mid has to be titch don’t think I can look for a value player. Assuming everyone hits their projections —> Banfield/holman down gets me about 160k Tim kelly rises to 392k mitchel comes down to about 585k so I’m gonna need Atleast 30k in the bank for next week assuming all goes to plan to trade kelly up. Thus I gotta either downgrade Walters or either chop non playing Murphy on bench or the 3 of my backline rookies. More safety in culling Murray I feel

Tyruddanaut

Hate to break It to you, but your midfield is full. You’re better off getting in a defender like Howe, Savage or Simpson who can help you get 40 points extra a week, rather than 20

Sam_01

That is true but Mitchell won’t be this cheap ever again so I gotta go him, will be paying top dollar for all backline players at the moment bar savage plus Mitchell gives a reliable captaincy option

ROB14

Anyone keeping Walters?

Sam_01

Gone for a month maybe more gotta trade

Crowboy94

Hey Guys!

What do people think of my team that I hopefully go into round 7 with:

Laird, Simpson, McGovern, Sicily, Murray, Doedee ( Naughton, Murphy)

Dangerfield, Mitchell, Fyfe, Merrett, MaCrae, Finlayson, Kelly, Spargo ( Holman, Brayshaw, Barry)

Gawn, Nank ( Cameron)

Heeney, Mundy, McLean, Billings, Fritsch, Higgins ( Henry, Guelfi)

22 trades and 220k in bank

Thanks!

Tyruddanaut

It’s… Good!

I’m just not keen on jumping onto rookies before they are on the bubble

TOPHAWK1

Hi Crowboy.

I hate to say this, but I have some concerns about your team. You have spent 8 trades and yet you are still 3 away from being full premo in your midfield, and 2 away from being full premo up forward. Your ruck and backline are solid.

I have used 7 trades so far and am 1 away from being full premo in the midfield, and 1 away in my forward line. I have the same ruck combo as you, and have 2 less premos in my backline. The backline is where the strongest rookies are generating the cash.

I guess you have had to use trades for injuries, but as I see it, you need to get that midfield and forward line up to speed, and fast.

Just my take mate. Cheers.

Crowboy94

Would you rather me trade in someone like Cripps?

TOPHAWK1

If you reversed your trades, then you would be back to 24 trades yeah?

If so, start again and have a look at Cripps, or Clayton Oliver. Don't fluff around with "long in the tooth" guys like David Mundy up forward. (If he is the guy you traded in)

You desperately need more grunt in the midfield.

Crowboy94

Yep I would be back to 24

Russty_

Hi Crowboy, who did you trade out this week mate..and why is Billings still there?