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AROUND THE GROUNDS ROUND 4

Published by Barron Von Crow on

Another week, another 9 games of football completed, which means only one thing. Round 4 is finished, I have successfully taken a chill pill after Friday night’s results and we’re now all looking ahead to what Round 5 has in store for us. At this point in the year we’d likely be looking to keep our rookies fairly static and just let them fatten up for a few months before sending them off to slaughter, but there’s been a lot of mixed results so far this year, as well as injuries, which has necessitated some early burning of trades for some. Whatever position you’re in, I’m hoping you’ll find something for you here. So let’s get to it.

Around the Grounds

Victoria

Carlton

Carlton had a game they’d rather forget, with the Roos making easy work of them, taking the match 116-30. Jarrod Garlett was the best performer for Carlton, producing 9 disposals, 3 marks, 5 tackles and 2 goals for 71 SCPoints. His BE sits at -22 for this week. Paddy Dow had 10 disposals, 1 mark and 2 tackles for 41 SCPoints, while Lochie O’Brien finished with 11 disposals, 4 marks and 2 tackles for 46 SCPoints in his AFL career debut. Dow gained just $8,200 this week and has a BE of 21 while O’Brien has a BE of 3.

Over in the VFL, the Northern Blues lost a close one to North Melbourne, going down 84-81. Angus Schumacher had 19 disposals, 3 tackles and 8 rebound 50’s, Pat Kerr kicked 1.2 with 7 disposals and 6 marks, and Kym Lebois booted 3 goals with 6 disposals and 5 tackles.

Collingwood

Collingwood looked terrific in their Friday night win against the Crows in Adelaide, making easy work of the Crows in a 106-58 win. Sam Murray was again terrific down back with 23 disposals, 6 tackles and 5 rebound 50’s for 92 SCPoints, but the big star was Jaidyn Stephenson, who booted 5 goals, with 13 disposals and 4 marks for 115 SCPoints. A great result for him, and while it is a bit much to expect 5 goals a week, hopefully he can continue to have an impact up forward for us and the Pies. Murray has a BE of -40 this week, so should be looking to reach into the $300K price range this week, while Stephenson’s good game has pushed his BE to -4 and will likely see him make some decent cash while it remains in his rolling average.

The Collingwood VFL side couldn’t keep up last weeks high scoring pace, going down to Port Melbourne 63-47. Josh Daicos had 20 disposals and 5 tackles, Brayden Sier had 20 disposals (16 handballs) and 6 tackles, Flynn Appleby had 19 disposals, 4 marks and 3 each of inside and rebound 50’s, and Sam McLarty had 18 disposals, 7 marks, 5 tackles and 23 hitouts. Brody Mihocek had 14 disposals, 3 tackles and 5 rebound 50’s and Max Lynch was busy in the ruck with 40 hitouts, with 8 disposals and 2 tackles.

Essendon

Essendon managed to get their season back on track with a quality win against Port Adelaide, taking the game 106-84. Matt Guelfi made his AFL debut and had a good one, finishing with 17 disposals, 3 marks and 2 tackles with 6 inside 50’s for 72 SCPoints. Keep him on your watchlist for next week. Joshua Begley had 9 disposals and 1 mark for 27 SCPoints. Don’t keep him on your watchlist for next week.

In the VFL, Essendon went down to Williamstown 77-45. Dylan Clarke was the obvious standout for the Bombers with 35 disposals, 3 marks and 15 tackles, while Kobe Mutch had 22 disposals, 5 marks, 14 tackles and 5 inside 50’s and Jayden Laverde had 19 disposals, 5 marks and 11 tackles.

Geelong

Geelong made easy work of St Kilda in the end, winning 103-56. Jordan Cunico was the big bolter for Geelong, playing his first game of the season (and 2nd in his career) and finished with 21 disposals, 5 marks, 3 tackles, 5 inside 50’s and 2 goals for 109 SCPoints. Bit much to expect 2 goals from him every week, but if he can hold up the other stats to a similar level, he could be a nice scorer. Tim Kelly also played well, with 15 disposals, 2 marks, 3 tackles and 2 goals for 89 SCPoints. Less disposals than usual for him, but thankfully he kicked some goals to make the score up.

Lachlan Fogarty had 18 disposals, 2 marks, 3 tackles and 6 inside 50’s for 80 SCPoints, while Jack Henry had 7 disposals, 3 marks and 6 tackles for 46 SCPoints. Esava Ratugolea couldn’t hit the scoreboard, but still did OK with his 6 disposals, 3 marks and 3 tackles for 60 SCPoints, while Zach Gutrhie could only manage 6 disposals and 2 marks, and finally Cory Gregson had just the 2 disposals for 22 SCPoints.

Kelly still has a BE of -1, while Fogarty’s is at -22. Ratugolea had his first price rise of $41,900 this week and has a BE of -31. He’s still at a buyable price of $165,800 this week, but will likely push into the $220K range this time next week. Zach Guthrie failed to hit his BE this week and lost $3,900 and has a BE of 51.

Geelong’s VFL side went down in a close one to Sandringham, losing 64-62. Timm House had 28 disposals, 8 marks and 4 rebound 50’s, Charlie Constable had 22 disposals, 1 mark and 6 tackles and Ryan Abott had 21 hitouts with 7 disposals and 6 marks.

Hawthorn

Hawthorn bolted into the top 4 on the back of a quality 115-48 win against Melbourne. David Mirra made his debut for the Hawks and had 18 disposals, 3 marks and 6 rebound 50’s for his 77 SCPoints. We’ll need to see how he goes next week, but he looked the goods in this game.

The Box Hill Hawks made easy work of the Frankston Dolphins, winning 103-64. James Cousins led the way with 27 disposals, 8 tackles, 4 inside 50’s and 1.2, James Worpel had 18 disposals, 2 marks and 4 inside 50’s and Mitch Lewis kicked 3.2 with 14 disposals, 5 marks, 8 tackles and 9 hitouts

Melbourne

Melbourne saw themselves drop to a 2-2 record after a 115-48 loss to Hawthorn on Sunday. Bayley Fritsch found a bit more of the ball than usual with 14 disposals, 1 mark and 3 tackles, but was held goalless for only 58 SCPoints. His season average now sits at the 58 SCPoints he scored on the weekend, but has a BE of 3, so there’s still cash to be made. If he can keep up an average of 60, he’ll still make money until the bye rounds.

Melbourne’s VFL side the Casey Demons defeated Werribee 71-55 on Saturday night. Corey Maynard had 21 disposals, 6 tackles and 4 inside 50’s, Harley Balic had 14 disposals, 6 tackles and a goal and Mitch King had 35 hitouts in the ruck with 11 disposals, 3 marks, 4 tackles and a goal.

North Melbourne

North Melbourne continued their “They might not be as terrible as everyone thought” streak alive against Carlton, winning an easy match 116-30. Luke Davis Uniacke was again limited in what he did, having just 9 disposals and 3 marks for 37 SCPoints. Ben Jacobs was given a tagging job on Patrick Cripps, and while he restricted Cripps to 19 disposals, he only managed 11 himself, along with 7 tackles and 5 clangers (4 due to frees against) for 56 SCPoints. Tagging is never friendly towards Supercoach, and we knew Jacobs would be given those sorts of jobs going in, so this is not a massive surprise. LDU has a BE of 60 this week, so there’s a good chance he could lose some cash this week.

North Melbourne’s VFL side got their very first win, defeating the Northern Blues 84-81. Paul Ahern led the game in disposals with 29 (23 kicks), with 4 marks, 5 tackles, 5 inside 50’s and a goal also. Mitchell Hibberd had 25 disposals, 3 marks and 9 tackles and Tristian Xerri kicked 2.1 with 7 disposals, 3 tackles and 14 hitouts.

Richmond

Richmond looked near unstoppable on Saturday at the MCG, keeping Brisbane goalless in the first half and running away with the game easily, winning 110-17. Jack Higgins was dropped, so no rookie priced players were on the field for Richmond. The Tigers VFL side had a bye this week as well, so no results from the VFL.

St Kilda

It was another disappointing result for St Kilda, going down to Geelong 103-56. Nicholas Coffield had a quality game with 17 disposals, 4 marks, 4 tackles and 5 rebound 50’s for 80 SCPoints, Ben Long finished with 18 disposals, 4 marks, 2 tackles and a goal for 65 SCPoints and Rowan Marshall had 9 disposals, 2 marks, 6 hitouts and a goal for 39 SCPoints. Coffield is on the bubble this week with a BE of -45, so this is the week to downgrade to him if you absolutely must.

In the VFL, the Sandringham Zebras had a close game against Geelong, winning 64-62. Bailey Rice finished with 22 disposals, 4 marks and 7 rebound 50’s, Ed Phillips had 19 disposals, 5 marks, 3 tackles and 4 rebound 50’s, Nathan Wright kicked 2.1 with 16 disposals, 3 marks and 9 tackles and Josh Battle had 10 disposals, 3 marks, 3 tackles and a goal.

Western Bulldogs

The Bulldogs kept it tight for most of the game, but some inaccurate kicking may have hurt them in the end, going down to Sydney 86-79. Timothy English continued his solid work in the ruck with 24 hitouts, along with 16 disposals and 7 marks for 78 SCPoints. Billy Gowers was the quietest for the Bulldogs with just 8 disposals, 2 marks, 4 tackles and a goal for 48 SCPoints. Ed Richards would have pleased those who traded him in this week, he had just 13 disposals, but also had 3 marks and 5 tackles for 67 SCPoints. He had 4 clangers in there, thanks to 4 frees paid against him, which means his score could have been even better. Finally, in a game where many predicted dire results, Aaron Naughton put up his highest score of the year, finishing with 15 disposals, 7 marks and 5 rebound 50’s for 78 SCPoints. Let’s hope he’s got his scoring on track from here on out!

Tim English has now pushed up to costing $220K and has a BE of -25. Richards had a price rise of $52,800 and now costs $188,100, so it could very well be a choice between Coffield and Richards this week for some. Naughton’s BE is -11 this week, though that could rise significantly close to his season average of 53 in a few weeks once the 78 rolls out of his average (unless he can add a few scores similar in the next 2-3 weeks).

In the VFL, the Footscray Bulldogs had an easy game against Coburg, winning 113-32. Lukas Webb led the Bulldogs with 32 disposals, 7 tackles and 7 inside 50’s Lewis Young had 18 disposals and 10 marks with 7 rebound 50’s, and Patrick Lipinksi kicked 2 goals with 12 disposals, 6 tackles and 3 inside 50’s.

South Australia

Adelaide

The Crows had a terrible game and never looked a chance on Friday night as they went down to Collingwood 106-58. The Crows rookies didn’t fair much better on a wet and windy night, with the returning Darcy Fogarty producing just 9 disposals, 2 marks and 1 tackle for 44 SCPoints. Tom Doedee was quiet also, with just the 13 disposals, 4 marks and 2 tackles for 57 SCPoints. Fogarty may struggle to hold his spot in Round 5 against Sydney, but we’ll hope The Dood bounces back. Fogarty might find himself on the chopping block again this week, but has a BE of 14 this week, while Doedee’s BE has pushed up to 21, but currently projects to move past the 400K mark by Round 10, as long as he can keep up his average of 86 until then.

In the SANFL, the Adelaide reserves side lost to South Adelaide 60-40. Patrick Wilson had 20 disposals, 8 clearances and 3 inside 50’s, Myles Poholke had 17 disposals, 3 marks and 3 tackles, Jordan Gallucci had 14 disposals, 4 clearances and 6 tackles, while Reilly O’Brien had 11 disposals, 33 hitouts and 7 tackles and Paul Hunter led the goal scoring for Adelaide with 2.

Port Adelaide

Port Adelaide had their first loss of the year, going down to Essendon 106-84. Riley Bonner was quieter this week with just the 14 disposals, 1 mark, 2 tackles and a goal for 60 SCPoints. We also have the potential return of Jasper Pittard (who had 28 disposals, 7 marks and 7 rebound 50’s in the SANFL) to worry about too, but that bridge will need to be crossed when we come to it. Todd Marshall also had a slightly quieter game, finishing with 9 disposals, 1 mark and 1 goal for 46 SCPoints.

In the SANFL, it was a low scoring affair for Port against Woodsville West-Torrens, with both sides scoring 28 points to draw the game, with Port keeping WWT goalless until the last quarter (WWT kicked 2.16 to Ports 4.4). Will Snelling finished with 25 disposals, 5 marks and 8 tackles, Joe Atley had 22 disposals, 3 marks and 7 tackles, Jack Trengove had 22 disposals, 3 marks and 4 tackles, Dom Barry finished with 19 disposals, 2 marks and 2 tackles and finally Billy Frampton had 13 disposals, 3 marks, 4 tackles and 12 hitouts. Bonner’s BE has pushed up to 58 this week, while Marshall’s currently sits at 44.

Western Australia

Fremantle

Fremantle kept pace with the Giants for half the game, but ran out of steam by the end, going down 82-51. Bailey Banfield led the way for the Dockers rookies with 17 disposals, 5 marks, 3 tackles and a goal for 69 SCPoints. Mitch Crowden was also handy with 15 disposals, 5 marks, 7 tackles for 61 SCPoints, while Andrew Brayshaw was subdued again with 11 disposals, 4 tackles and 1 mark for 42 SCPoints. He has become a serious concern now. Finally, Adam Ceera had just 8 disposals, 2 marks and 2 tackles for 34 SCPoints. Brayshaw made a minimal price rise of $4,800, but has a BE of 54, which is higher than his season average of 48.5 SCPoints. Banfield is in no trouble with a BE of -10, and Crowden is in a similar position with a BE of -40.

In Round 3 of the WAFL, the Peel Thunder lost a close one to Perth, 85-79. Taylin Dunman had 29 disposals, 10 marks and 3 each of inside and rebound 50’s and Ryan Nyhius had 23 disposals, 3 marks, 2 tackles and 4 rebound 50’s,

West Coast

West Coast continued their strong to the season with a quality win against the Gold Coast, taking the match 139-59. Jake Waterman had to deal with the return of Josh Kennedy, but still managed to hit the scoreboard for 1.1, along with 10 disposals, 3 marks and a tackle for 61 SCPoints.

Willie Rioli kicked his first goals in the AFL, finishing with 2 as well as having 10 disposals and 6 marks for 48 SCPoints. Daniel Venables also hit the scoreboard for 1.1, with 11 disposals, 2 marks and 4 tackles for 61 SCPoints. Waterman’s BE has hit positive numbers this week, though it couldn’t get much lower at 1, while Venables BE is 16, while Rioli’s is at -3, though his season average of 39.7 will see it rise quickly if that remains.

West Coast’s WAFL side had a bye this week.

New South Wales

GWS

GWS did their work in the 2nd half to turn a 7-point lead at half time into a 31-point win at the end of four, to defeat Fremantle 82-51. Jeremy Finlayson was again the man for the Giants, with 25 disposals, 6 marks, 6 tackles and 6 rebound 50’s for 101 SCPoints. He’s earned automatic starting position so far this year.  Daniel Lloyd was again handy for the Giants up forward with 14 disposals, 2 marks and a goal for 69 SCPoints. Finlayson still has a great BE at -11, while Lloyd ‘s sits at 2.

The Giants NEAFL side lost to Gold Coast 93-72. Isaac Cumming led the Giants with 30 disposals, 6 marks, 5 tackles and 6 rebound 50’s, Zachary Sproule had 22 disposals, 6 marks and 7 tackles, Lachlan Keeffe finished with 19 disposals, 4 marks, 5 tackles and a goal and Matthew Flynn had 51 hitouts with 13 disposals, 2 marks and 2 goals. Lachie Tiziani had 11 disposals, 3 marks, 4 tackles and 3 goals, but unfortunately ruptured his ACL and will now miss the rest of the year.

Sydney

The Swans kept up their winning ways on Saturday afternoon, taking care of the Bulldogs 86-79. Aliir Aliir played his first game of 2018, but was very quiet with just 5 disposals, 2 marks and 2 tackles for 32 SCPoints. Will Hayward faired similar, having just 5 disposals, 2 marks and 4 tackles for 25 SCPoints. Finally Oliver Florent may not have found the ball much with just 12 disposals, but thanks to kicking the winning goal he scored 82 SCPoints, with 2 marks, 4 tackles and 4 inside 50’s to his name as well.

The Swans NEAFL side went down to Brisbane 127-74. Colin O’Riodran led the Swans with 23 disposals, 6 marks, 4 inside 50’s and 5 rebound 50’s, Robbie Fox had 22 disposals, 2 marks, 5 tackles and 4 rebound 50’s, Ben Ronke kicked 2 goals with 18 disposals, 2 marks and 10 tackles and Darcy Cameron also kicked 2 goals with 14 disposals, 5 marks, 3 tackles and 17 hitouts

Queensland

Brisbane

It’ll be a game Brisbane will try and forget in a hurry, with the Lions managing to kick only 2.5 for the game against the Tigers, going down 110-17. In one piece of good news, Cameron Rayner had the best game of his short career, producing 22 disposals, 4 marks, 3 tackles, 6 inside 50’s and a goal for 97 SCPoints. That’s a score he certainly needed to boost his BE back.

We also saw the debut of Zac Bailey, who was pick #15 in the 2017 AFL Draft. He had just the 7 disposals, 2 marks and 1 tackle for 15 SCPoints. Nothing to see here at this stage. That big score for Rayner has pushed his BE all the way down to -25, so now is hopefully the time for him to strike, because if he goes back to his old ways, that score of 97 will roll out of his average by Round 7 and his BE will jump back to the 55-60 range.

In the NEAFL, the Lions had a good win against Sydney, taking the game by 50 points -124-74. Corey Lyons had 28 disposals, 10 marks, 2 tackles and a goal, Brandon Starevich had 16 disposals, 6 marks, 4 inside 50’s and 2 goals and Oscar McInerney had 9 disposals, 2 marks and 25 hitouts.

 

Gold Coast

It probably wasn’t the easiest thing for the Suns to play in Perth two weeks in a row, and it certainly shows as they were never really in contention in the 139-59 loss to West Coast. Nic Holman had a poor game (by his brief AFL standards this year), finishing with just 7 disposals and 3 tackles for 32 SCPoints. He’s never been a massive ball winner, averaging 14 disposals per game in his first 3, but it’s his tackle numbers that have taken a slow dip across the first month, going from 13 to 11 to 6 and now 3. That’s a strong way for him to keep his Supercoach scoring up, so hopefully he can bounce back against the Lions in Round 5. Holman has a BE of 25, though a few scores of old will push that down quick enough.

Gold Coast’s NEAFL side defeated the UWS Giants 93-72 in Round 2 of the NEAFL season. Will Brodie had 26 disposals, 4 marks, 6 tackles, 8 inside 50’s and 2 goals, Harrison Wigg finished with 25 disposals (21 kicks), 8 marks and 8 rebound 50’s and Brad Scheer had 23 disposals, 3 marks, 4 tackles and 5 inside 50’s with a goal.

Top 5

DEF

  1. Jeremy Finlayson – 92.8 SCPoints
  2. Tom Doedee – 85.8 SCPoints
  3. Sam Murray – 79.3 SCPoints
  4. David Mirra – 77 SCPoints
  5. Nicholas Coffield – 73 SCPoints

 

MID

  1. Jordan Cunico – 109 SCPoints
  2. Tim Kelly – 103.5 SCPoints
  3. Jeremy Finlayson – 92.8 SCPoints
  4. Nick Holman – 75.5 SCPoints
  5. Nicholas Coffield – 73 SCPoints

 

RUC

  1. Tim English – 67.5 SCPoints

 

FWD

  1. Liam Ryan – 80.3 SCPoints
  2. Matt Guelfi – 72 SCPoints
  3. Daniel Lloyd – 69.8 SCPoints
  4. Jaidyn Stephenson – 68.5 SCPoints
  5. Tim English – 67.5 SCPoints

 

And that’s it from me this week. As usual, you can either leave a comment in the section below, or hit me up on the Twitter @BarronVonCrow. Seeya next week!

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Derek

Did I hear that Barlow had 48 disposals on the weekend?

Lekdog

PLAY HIM GOLD COAST

Derek

He was locked in my team all pre season

Defying_Madness

If he plays I might consider bringing him in instead of getting McLean who costs a lot

Whatyasmokin

462K? Big risk considering tooth length and js.

TRIGGA HAPPY

Geez i had to double check I read that right.
Flynn 51 hitouts!
Who was he playing against the Pyrenees pygmies?

Watching, watching: (with a very keen interest)
Mirra
Cunico
Ahern
Clarke
Worpel
House
Wigg
Wilson
Cumming
Starevich

Thanks BVC. Lovin the heads up.

Derek

Ahern and Wilson are the two who must play soon

TRIGGA HAPPY

Yeah if adhern gets a gig this or next week be almost the perfect time to bring a cow to slaughter when on the bubble.

Derek

I think Bailey Rice will play for Robertson this week

Was a high pick a few years ago but got glandular fever I remember

The Ranger

Coffields JS should be good for a few weeks too

David C

Crossley is on the main list now.

hedski

Add Guelfi Trig, looked the goods on the weekend.

Derek

Danger is owned by 19%. What was it start of round 1. 17%?

Whatyasmokin

I still dont have him but not a problem.

Ken

Who to get in for venables?

Heeney, Gray or McLean?

GawnToThePub

I would recommend McLean, cheapest of the three and will produce the most consistent scorer. Gray and Heeney will pump out a 130+ but the following week could quite easily spit out a 60

Derek

Heeney should end up #1 forward. Get him in.

Razors Edge

Is Grundy worth the hefty price tag or is a Stefan Martin/Naitanui still a viable option as a 2nd ruck to Gawn?

Whatyasmokin

I wouldnt pay that for Grundy even though he's in great form.

paul

Gee he looks good tho running around like a midfielder picking up 20 plus fantastic for a ruck.

Damon

What do people think about brayshaw to Dean Kent. Through moving Garlett into the mid

The Ranger

Nah. Kent is going to be consistent. His place in the team isn't even guaranteed.

The Ranger

*isn't

Whatyasmokin

Check out Kent's supercoach record.

GawnToThePub

NEED THOUGHTS!

Taberner to Parfitt
Holman to Cunico

Was going to wait a week on Holman as his BE is quite low but need the extra cash to upgrade Taberner before Parfitt booms up his price.

Taberner could post a decent score at home against the Dogs and Holman could redeem himself against the Lions.

Do i pull the trigger or hold? Just paranoid as is a big week for me before prices fluctuate too much.

Currently sitting 31st overall so really want to keep up there!

The Ranger

Hold mate. Holman has more money to make and Parfitt isn't gonna score like that all year.
Trades are gold later in the year.

Derek

Holman won’t make much more. The 32 from last week will be in his ave for a couple of weeks. Unless he scores over 75, his BE will be higher than his ave for next week and then everyone will be trading him out.

The sensible thing is to milk him for one more week, but there isn’t a lot of cash left in him.

Whatyasmokin

Surely worth holding holman even through the byes, if he can make another 150K (which is plausible looking at his scoring)

Derek

You will have to hold him another 4 weeks maybe longer to get that much cash

Whatyasmokin

Yeah I dont see a huge problem with it, good job security and a saved trade to another rookie is gold.

The Ranger

Thanks BVC.
Decent year for rookies so far.

The Ranger

I'm considering turning Venables into Coffield via the magic of DPP.
Good trade?

DacZawson

Can't fault it Ranger

Red5

Kreuzer to Tony Olango. English to R2 & from Bench. Mason Cox as cover in forward line.
Then bring in Mitchell for Holman.
Please let me know your thoughts

cburgz

If you’re going that route you could grab one of the 117k mid/fwd rooks to loophole either English or cox (who ever plays first) if they score better than you think the other would. Then upgrade to ryder once he’s back and bottomed out. I don’t see Kreuzer scoring well any time soon with his injury and also with murphy out for an extended time it limits his hitout to advantage.
Mitchell would be a big in but I also think holman has more cash to make, is there any other rooks you could upgrade? What’s your team look like?

Red5

Thanks for the advice.
I like the idea of a 117k mid/fwd for the loophole but I'd fall short of of money for Mitchell
I'd like to trade Brayshaw but again I wouldn't get enough for Mitchell.
My team looks OK. I've got all the main rookies. Its mainly Kreuzer that's letting me down.

cburgz

could always downgrade cox to mid/ruck rookie to open up the english swing to field f6 and have ruck cover then upgrade kreuzer to grundy or nic nat and bank some cash which next week would allow you to go brayshaw to mirra (finlayson swing assuming you have him) and upgrade holman to a premo

Red5

Not bad

Derek

Get Haynes at R3. Then you have a Cox/English loophole option every week

Red5

Thanks
I like the idea of a 117k mid/fwd for the loophole but I'd fall short of of money for Mitchell

Derek

Worth thinking about, although this week is one of the few weeks the loophole won’t work.

Next week you put English at R3 with the E. Haynes at R2. If English does good you leave it and think about putting Cox on field in forward line. If English has a poor score, you swing Cox to R2 via Haynes and use Haynes as a forward loophole.

PuntRoadRoar

Christensen Bubbling away nicely sitting at F7 with Heeney; Greene; Smith; Petracca; Sicily and Lambert on field and Giles Langdon on bench.

Sc_Wow

Already?

Derek

Do you have a Garlet or Crowden in mids? So you can swing one of your DPP into guts to get Christensen on field?

Whatyasmokin

Poor midfield output?

PuntRoadRoar

No DPP MID/FWD so happy to let Christensen stay on the bench at the moment whilst he is making some cash.
Mids: Mitchell, Fyfe, Cripps, Coniglio, Zerrett, Omeara, Kelly, Holman (Brayshaw, Banfield, Coffield)
Christensen hopefully will come in handy if I need to:
1. Unload a mid for cash gen. and swing finlayson into mid and Sicily back.
2. Get rid of Naughton / Murphy from Def. bench and swing Sicily.

PuntRoadRoar

Defence is definitely a weakness though that may need patching at any time with:
Laird, Savage, Bonner, Finlayson, Doedee, Murray (Naughton, Murphy).
And of course the biggest risk with Sandi partnering Gawn in the ruck with Olango R3.
Sandi possibility of being rested this week??

Whatyasmokin

Not bad though as the defense has been good output for the price, pity about bonner.

TommyC99

Christo costs way too much for your bench imo

Simo

Hold onto Josh Kelly (what is his prognosis?) or turn him into Dusty?

Whatyasmokin

Trade.

theRealPod

Hit that trade button throw away the key

David C

Neither Kelly nor Lobb likely to play this week. Lobb the closer of the two, trade.

gator59

Is Callum Sinclair the real deal this year… Thoughts on bringing him in for Kruze

Sc_Wow

Have a look at who he’s gone up against, write them down and see if you think he’s had any real challenges. If my premo ruck can’t ton up against a port team with no ruck I’d be upset

SC_Donkey

I rate him highly this season, been watching him since Round 1, when he was against NicNat and Lycett. Has been ticking all the boxes of what Gawn and Grundy has been doing, still not at their level but really close.

SC_Donkey

Still can't decide of who to bring in this week.

Sinclair is who I'm leaning on atm, being a solo ruckman averaging 110 in the last 4 rounds. Round 10 he's up against Stefan, I think he'll get the better of Stefan. Round 11 he has Kreuzer, if Kreuzer still carrying that injury by then Sinclair should outscore Kreuzer. Apart from Stefan and Kreuzer, Sinclair should dominate in the Ruck, he won't go against Grundy and Gawn until Round 20 and 21.

JOM is my 2nd pick price less than $400K could push up to $550K should average 95+ until round round 11. has few easy games before his bye and will benefit the freedom to roam and do as he pleases against a harder teams. Titch has a target all over him each week.

Next in line are Hurley and Cogs, Hurley being the consistent out of the two and strengthen my backline. Cogs looking to be a top 8-15 midfielder by season end, price at just over $500K still quite affordable. Only concern will he stay fit all year.

Yeo if Simmo don't experiment with his role again, like what he did last couple arounds ago. Could wait a week, his price may drop a little more.

What do you fellas think?
Sinclair, JOM, Cogs or Hurley.

Sc_Wow

I wouldn’t get too hot on Sinclair. Who has he faced to date? Scored 75 against a ruckless port, Dixon managed 32 hitouts against him. Martin destroyed port, and all ruckman combined didn’t come close to get 32 against him. I wouldn’t be too sure he will beat Stef. Even the likes of McEvoy, Sandilands, Sauce will show him up.

Wouldn’t pick JOM up unless you want to keep him same applies to cog.

Hurley is solid and should be top 6

SC_Donkey

Sinclair had 44 Hitouts against port, not his fault Swans were poor in clearances on that game. He was against Westhoff and Dixon.

Sc_Wow

I just would want my premo ruck to at least ton up vs Dixon and Westhoff before I picked him. If you’ve looked into it and it works for you go for it. Only providing my opinion

SC_Donkey

I got your point. But i think we need to put in consideration of how the team are playing. Swans got beaten in the center square and stoppages. Ruckman don't usually score well if their followers/rovers are not playing well.

Sc_Wow

Martin still got a 94 after losing by 100 to the tigers.

SC_Donkey

Well! We can go on about the ups and downs. You have your point of view as I have mine, I do appreciate your take on Sinclair. Without a doubt will weigh 'em all up and at the end of the day, it will come down to whoever fits in. It's why i still can't decide of who to bring in, out of those players I mentioned.

TheGreatBozza

Agree with Sc Wow here. Don't go chasing Sinclair or JOM. It's a big gamble to use them as a stepping stone. All it takes is a dud score of 60 to to halt the cash train. Better off going to a rookie or upgrading to a premo in my opinion

INPieman

Don't like buying into JOM now. Sure the Dees slowed Titch down but it left JOM to run riot. And the result was a massive loss. I'd be wary the tag may come for him. He's also a little injury prone

SC_Donkey

Thanks INP

The way I'm looking at it, first half of the season 18 teams are fighting for that 8 spots. 17 teams will try stop tops players(onballers) the likes of Titch, Danger and so on. After the bye rounds top 8 should start to take its shape and tags starts to drop off, if JOM can run freely until the bye rounds without a tag by then he'll have a bit of freedom going towards the end of the season. "IF" he stays fit, at that time we start to fix our premiums (keepers) going towards the end of the season.

Either way, once I've decided only 2 of those players I mention will be in my team in the next two weeks and the others will not be in my team at all.

Sc_Wow

Surely Hurley is a must have defender

Valens_FC

hey donks nicnat still good value. Cheaper than Sinclair and almost at 100av playing <;60% game time. Also doesn’t have round 14 bye which most coaches have a problem with. Sinclair has been around a while now and never got to number 1 ruck off his own steam. I have my doubts about his ability. Good luck with this decision.

SC_Donkey

Byes no issue for me. I currenly have Laird, Danger, Fyfe and Heeney that has Rd 14 bye.

KSinny

Any advice for my team community? have 130k in the bank and 27 trades left.

DEF: Laird, Simpson, Sicily, Doedee, Murray, Finlayson (Naughton, Murphy)

MID: Titch, Dusty, Kelly, Fyfe, Zerrett, Cripps, Kelly, Holman (Garlett, Brayshaw, Banfield)

RUC: Gawn, Nank (Olango)

FWD: Henney, Billings, Smith, Tracca, Fritch, Henry (Venables, Keefe)

Thanks for the suggestions guys!

TheGreatBozza

If you had to make a move this week, I'd look at Venables to Coffield via Garlett DPP. That's not even essential as you can wait a week for Guelfi

KSinny

Coffield for Venables and guelifi for Brayshaw? provided hes named

TheGreatBozza

Personally I'd look at Coffield for Venables, and hold Brayshaw for one more week. Just in case Guelfi isn't named next round.

You can then use Keefe as a loop hole for Fristch/Henry/Garlett up FWD

KSinny

yeh i could if he wasnt playing in the second game

Jordan

Hey lads,

I have Kreuzer in my team and really want to move him on now. I only have about 25k in the bank and can bring in anyone except Grundy. However, i could trade in someone, most likely Mirra to grab that extra cash to get Grundy as he is looking lethal right now, but not sure if it's really worth the extra downgrade to get him.

What's everyones thoughts?

DacZawson

I didn't get to see the game against Port that the Bombers played but without checking stats how did Guelfi look?
If Giles-Langdon comes back this week for GWS, there could be a tough decision to be made regarding who comes in for Venables.

INPieman

I'd forget about Guelfi till next week. He plays on Wednesday. He could be sitting on an extended bench for a week. Would make one very very nervous

Crowboy94

So is everyone moving Hibberd on or holding??

INPieman

Jordan Lewis out complicates things

David C

Giving him one last week now that Lewis is out. Might trade him to Danger next week if he spuds it up again.

Steeeve

I moved him to Curnow. Who has then averaged 75-odd. But it did allow me to go five keepers deep up forward where the good rookies ain't.

Filth Wizard

Lewis out with broken hand Hibberd could take on a different role. Worth keeping to see what happens this weekend.

The Ranger

Can anyone remember one of Crouchings stories about a dog chasing a car and getting petrol fumes in it's face?
Can't remember the detail but it's been bugging me all morning.
Anyways, I think it's that time of year when we should all make sure we're not chasing cars.

INPieman

"If you chase the car you get exhausted" a reference to chasing last weeks points

Derek

What about his story about Dog Dog. Starting to be relevant again.

The Ranger

It's vaguely ringing a bell but as evidenced earlier my memory is terrible…which one was that Derek?

Derek

Crouching had a dog that lived next door that could jump over his back fence, did matter how high he built it. it was called Dog Dog. Big dog with curly black hair. It reminded him of NicNat because nicNat can jump over anything. that is why NicNats nickname with the boys was Dog dog.

fcabel

Dog dog 😂

Whatyasmokin

Happens every year, you try to warn people but they still lock in matera.

The Ranger

Hehe he…Matera….

.

Whatyasmokin

Entered in round 3 and scored 98 followed by a 158 in round 4. The masses scrambled to get him only to be left with large stains with scores of 46, 59 and 65. Didnt even play past round 13 not sure if an injury or his coach locked him into his SC side and was sick of the prick. Would explain him going to fremantle too.

Dean Kent enters round 3……….deja vu?

SC_Sixty6

Looks like most VC's will be played either Friday night or Saturday arvo. No loophole options for most.

Whatyasmokin

Those who held barry will VC buddy, coniglio or heeney I assume.

Northernsoul74

Thinking I made the right call in trading out Kelly last week. Ruled out this week and unlikely next as well. Thanks for the tip sc wow.

INPieman

You only need to look at Kruezer to see the effects of groin injuries. It was a good idea to wave Kelly goodbye last week

Derek

I think it was 66 who had the info from GWS

Derek

He looks like he will miss this week. Sixty6, do you think he will miss 3 weeks?

I have the cash to to one trade to Danger.

Steeeve

1. Dom Barry isn't getting another game for the Power is he
2. Wigg will be a fantastic downgrade option, hopefully he doesn't crack the ones for another few weeks
3. Brayshaw is the worst rookie I've ever selected.

Derek

1. He should. Long season and he has been ok. Hold him.

2. There are a fair few cheap rookies coming through. Ahern and Wilson could be getting a game this week. Not sure where Wigg is.

3. Surely you had Pickett last year, or Simpkin or Menapoo.

theRealPod

The poo had a break out game

Goat

He broke out of the Tigers side (again).

The Ranger

Yeah I had the poo for weeks and then got rid of him just before that 130odd that he got.
Still furious.

Steeeve

I had Pickett and Menadue. Neither of them were selected with great promise, and neither of them cost almost $200K that's for sure. If Brayshaw has a "Menadue game" and miraculously busts out a ton it will want to be this week, or almost nobody will be holding to reap the rewards.

Whatyasmokin

1. Dont see why not.
2. Wigg doesnt get a shot in the AFL squad.
3. Hes not done yet in my opinion, although its not looking great.

Steeeve

You don't think Wigg will crack the side? I'd be shocked. He's a gun.

Whatyasmokin

Yeah I mean for some reason he never gets a shot, its surprising.

Defying_Madness

Should I trade Kelly down to Coniglio?

Whatyasmokin

Its probably wise as they are not rushing to get him back in.

Andrew

I took the risk and made that trade last week and am laughing. Groin injuries are hard to fully recover from

TommyC99

Personally, if im trading premos, i trade to sure things. Sure things would be basically guaranteed top 10s with good durability. Cogs has looked good but can he keep up his scoring? Can he stay out on the park? The 100k you would bank is a nice bonus though.

Defying_Madness

Not many other options though. My current midfield is Titch, Dusty, Fyfe, Zerret, Kelly, Oliver, T Kelly, Holman

SC_Sixty6

Wonder how many people now feel about my OP call on Kelly is BS? "Week by week proposition" I read in giants update and "shouldn't be long term" if managed properly. 'managed' is the worrying word. Not to mention when he comes back I'll put him down for a couple of weeks with going through the motions.

Mystic Mac

triggered

TRIGGA HAPPY

Yes?

INPieman

I encouraged 3 mates to get rid of him last week & they did. They don't regret it either

TRIGGA HAPPY

Groin plus managed = gone
U were spot on 66.

Choice now is straight to dusty (got $80k)
Bonner to an under $500k def next week by downgrading Naughton to Mirra.
Or
Kelly to Oliver and bonner to Hurley next week?

Crowboy94

I took your advice last week and traded him to Macrae

ToneStar

Cheers Sixty for the info. Moved him on for Oliver last round…

Derek

Kelly looks like he will miss again this week.

i don't think i'm going to stuff around any longer, Kelly to Danger. one trade. bang.

Midfield looks like a proper midfield with Danger there.

Dangerfield, Dusty, Fyfe, TMitch, Parker, Oliver, Coniglio, T Kelly (Holman, Banfirld, Barry)

Whatyasmokin

Very strong midfield indeed.

Is Sicily the real deal Derek? Ive seen things about his role but can u confirm?

INPieman

Sicily as a intercept defender is absolutely relevant. Will have some spud games & lose his s*it & probably get rubbed out. But there will be plenty of quality scores & a 90+ AV at least. That is if he stays in that role. Indications at this point are he will

Derek

Sicily has the easiest job in the team.

the hawks play the loose man in defense better than most other teams. i was at the game on the weekend and i looked up and at one centre bounce there were 7 melbourne forwards and 8 hawthorn defenders down one end of the field. i'm sure if melbourne had 9 forwards, the hawks would have at 10 defenders.

And it is always Sicily who is looking to be the loose man. the other hawthorn defenders job is to shepard their opponent away from the fall of the ball and allow Sicily to take the marks, and rack up the SC points.

plus he gets most of the kick ins.

i don't think he will become top 8 though. he very rarely runs with the ball or provides a link when they are running the ball out of defense. his job is to stay fairly deep.

i don't have him. if i did start with him (instead of Mills) i'd be fairly happy to hold him for a while

Whatyasmokin

Just thinking he could possibly be a sneaky top 8 with the inconsistency of some defenders this year. Also I need to trade forwards out this week and thinking Sicily and then move him back later. I think he can make an acceptable D6 or F6.

Cheers for the info guys.

theRealPod

Nice

The Ranger

'Who's that M8 gonna be Derek?

Derek

MCrouch. The byes are a problem

Steeeve

You should shoot up the rankings with the big three. My midfield will end up the same as yours, except I have Cripps instead of Parker. I am tempted to bring in Zerrett for m8 but might wait an extra month and pick up Matt Crouch who I expect will average higher.

Shake_n_Bake_

If you could wait 1 more week Derek. Kellys price will remain the same. But youll get another great discount on Danger.

Derek

Yeah. I have thought about that, especially now I hear Danger had his calf strapped during the game, he might have another average score and drop further.

My original plan was to keep Kelly and run with a deep midfield Coniglio at M7 and TKelly at M8 and upgrade to Danger in a few weeks.

Kelly out has thrown that plan.

Options are go Kelly to someone else. The someone else would be MCrouch, but he not playing. Or Merrett…. maybe. Or Cripps/Bont type.

Or just hold another week and play Holman on field.

Or…. trade Holman to JOM… have the cash

Russty_

Enviable midfield Derek, how are your other lines travelling?…Most lads have 2 or 3 rooks still onfield in the mids..cheers.

Derek

it Hurt last week, Kelly out meant I had Holman on field.

Most people still had Holman on field, it would have been a nice points gain

Shake_n_Bake_

I went Kelly to Coniglio last week glad l did but wont be spending $700k on Danger this week. After this week hell be abot $660. At the moment l have $470 in the kitty but l will be looking to upgrade Brayshaw in the coming weeks to Danger.

Derek

It is tempting to wait a bit longer

BrownlowBoy

Who to bring in for Kelly?
Currently have Danger, Fyfe, Titch, Oliver.

Cash is no issue. Dusty is the obvious one but who else

Defying_Madness

Could consider Coniglio, he is still cheap for what he is averaging. I am bringing him in and the cash allows me to get McLean in for Lobb.

The Ranger

I like the double upgrade option if its possible BB, down to Cogs and up somewhere else.

TommyC99

I went Dusty last week. Macrae nice bye and going quite nicely.

Jace

I have Kelly also should i leave him on the bench 1 more week and pick up Danger a bit cheaper next week.
I have 196 grand in the bank i have Dusty,Titch,Fyfe already.

Whitey

Left field option could be to get Merrett, I believe he can turn it around and you can get him for close to 500k.

Derek

He is same price as Coniglio

Crowboy94

MaCrae

Sc_Wow

Don’t be silly, bring in dusty

ToneStar

Agree Wow. Bring in the best if you can…

NoLanguage

Answer is obvious too BB. Dusty.

KSinny

Play it safe and trade Kelly to Oliver and have 131k OR take a risk and trade him to O'Meara and pocket 341k?

paul

Kelly has been carrying this last year too so time to go for me it's Kelly to Macrae.

Whatyasmokin

Coniglio.

TommyC99

Which option to trade kruez pls guys. 26 trades left
1. Kruez – Nic Nat
2. Ryan – Mirra/Guelfi/ZGL (if fit), Kruez – Grundy
3. Hold

Jace

1

josh

have had to burn plenty of trades early due to a run of injuries which isnt ideal and really dont want to move kreuzer on as i had planned a set and forget ruck with him and gawn. but groin injuries are a lingering matter and i feel like its going to drag on..

grundy is playing unbelievable footy at the moment but at 610K he is overpriced and i think his output will fade from what it currently is..

i am thinking stef martin. watched him against melbourne the other week and was impressed. he said it himself he was carrying too much weight previous seasons gone by and wasnt playing as well. so dropped a heap in the off season.

also thinking of trading darcy fogarty to a ruck/fwd in hayes (never going to play), although this allows me to swing tim english into the fwd line as F6 (either him, or fritsch) and extra swings for the bye periods.

thoughts or waste of trades?

cburgz

could go kreuz to nic nat and bank 60k. you have english as cover if he is rested/out for a week and worst case if he get badly injured again you could downgrade english to olango and upgade nic nat to the top performing ruck at the time

hedski

Goddam groins. I have Kreuz and Kelly, wanted to hold both but the smart play might be Dog Dog and Clarry in? Yay/Nay?

The Ranger

I ditched Kelly but I'm holding Kreuz.
Dog Dog is very tempting but I'm burning thru trades already.

hedski

Yeah same that's why I wanted to hold both of them.

INPieman

Groin injuries linger hedski. Move the boys on

neil demons delight

Seems like a good move to me Hedski Both Clarry and Dog Dog in great form and historically groins can last a long time Good moves

EasyMoneySniper

Do we like Michael Hibberd to Robbie Gray/David Mundy/Toby Mclean/ Toby Greene??
Already have Bud, Heeney and Smith

Whatyasmokin

McLean or Gray. Greene is a gun but a flog. Mundy will struggle when sandi goes down.

neil demons delight

Even before his big ton Parfitt was on my watchlist. Missed him or is it worth the punt. Kent is the opposite a definite trap good Casey player though

gator59

Both a trap Neil imo

neil demons delight

is Kent going to the saints would be a good fit Maybe a first round pick Gat

gator59

We'll take anything we can get atm neil.. They can't be any worse than what we've already got

Russty_

Maybe we could get Travis Cloke and Brendan Fevola in there Gator, that'd be in line with our past successful plans of trading.

Valens_FC

So confession time… I was one of the idiots who transferred Menegola out after two rounds. I made the problem worse by bringing Fisher in (yep terrible). He is destined to keep getting 70s max and make no more cash and I have 250k. With probable double downgrade next week (Mirra and Guelfi) I think right to just upgrade fisher and end the idiocy. This will take me to 4 trades used only 1 was really enforced (Ryan) but despite bad moves I can probably survive these mistakes.

Round 14 a nightmare so Heeney and menegola not options. I already have Walters, Smith and McLean. I’m between the obvious gray or the left field Cameron. Why Cameron? He’s lost $45k of value and has a pretty soft draw next several weeks. Can see some big scores on the horizon. But I always fall down by over PODing my team. Do the obvious or take the risk?

theRealPod

Hi Valens, if you're thibking about Cameron I'd wait for team selections.

Sc_Wow

You have showed that risked mess you up when they go bad. Lock in a certain top 6

TIGESB2B

Rage traded Sandi to Grundy. Oh well. Thinking of dumping Brayshaw for Coffield. Thoughts on this unabashed grab for cash?

r_calve

billings to guelfi
brayshaw to gibbs

yeah or nah

if not waht do i do i wnatt o rid myself of jack billings cos he isnt a pemo anymore, do i jus t trad ehim to gray or greene r do i go brayshaw to coffield instead of bringing in guelfi

or the left field option in JOM

Russty_

Well Mr Calve, it looks like you were a super drunky when you typed this gibberish so from what I made of it, you were wondering who to trade in for Billings and now after the fact, I'll say Gray haha, sorry that doesn't help, also I hope you didn't go Gibbs this week, also in hindsight. Don't go JOM cause he scores shit this week lol.

Russty_

Just wanted to round this one off to 200 posts 🙂