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Billings. Hibberd. Kreuzer. Those other blokes who are also bad.

The rookies’ poor week. The premiums’ poor weeks.ย The disappointment of Patrick Dangerfield.

We have an in-depth discussion of the rucks and also have a look at some sneaky forward options.

These things and more are discussed on this week of the podcast, as Lekdog and Patch stumble through round five of the Supercoach season before Patch gets a bit wild and crazy.

NOTE: We forgot to mention, but next round goes for about a week due to Anzac Day. Content will be a bit jumbled but it will all be there, somewhere. Hold onto your hats for that bad boy.

What are you moves this week?



Crowboy94 · 16/04/2018 at 22:29

Hey Guys.

So I'm thinking I will hold trades this week, but any advice on trades I should do in coming weeks or now is welcome ๐Ÿ™‚

Laird, Hibberd, McGovern, Finlayson, Doedee, Murray ( Naughton, Murphy)

Dangerfield, Mitchell, MacRae, Fyfe, Merrett, Kelly, Holman, Banfield ( Brayshaw, Barry, Garlett)

Gawn, Nank (Cameron)

Heeney, McLean, Billings, Sicily, Stephenson, Fritsch ( Henry, Higgins)

26 trades, 250k in the bank

Thanks Guys!

    Patch · 16/04/2018 at 23:29

    Gday Crowboy! Moving Hibberd on is probably the best as we discussed – maybe to a Hurley or Simpson?

    Also love seeing Macrae in the guts!

      Crowboy94 · 16/04/2018 at 23:42

      Hey Patch,

      Thinking I may hold him and Billings, have to back them in, plus don't want to sideways anymore….

      But I am definitely considering trading both of them.

      Probably going to just downgrade Brayshaw to Coffield.

        Sc_Wow · 17/04/2018 at 11:43

        Not getting enough cash out of bray to Coffield for me

          neil demons delight · 17/04/2018 at 12:00

          Agree Brayshaw is a very slow burner but mirra looks the better downgrade Put Finlaysen in mids cheers N D D

Gibbs · 16/04/2018 at 22:41

Do I trade Brayshaw to coff or Mirra? Trading to Mirra instead of coff allows me to turn Hibbered into Martin instead of Oliver

    Patch · 16/04/2018 at 23:28

    That's a tough one Gibbsy. Don't like going to first gamers out of principle but if it's the difference between Dusty and Oliver I can just about justify it

hedski · 16/04/2018 at 22:51

Nice!! Was about to hit the sack for another night of broken sleep from the young fella screaming, now I can sink a few more tins in the shed and knock myself right out…ah my sc team is shit.

    Lekdog · 16/04/2018 at 22:57


    Eric_the_Red · 16/04/2018 at 23:07

    I'm right there with ya mate.

    Northerner · 17/04/2018 at 02:55

    Feeling the same pain Hedski. Dropped from 1200 to 5000 in a week. Ugly.

    The Ranger · 17/04/2018 at 10:22

    Haha ha…valium mate, get some valium.
    For you, not the young fella, obviously.

    neil demons delight · 17/04/2018 at 12:05

    Does the young fella know the song yet Amazing how we all think alike Jock like his shed/bungalow too . Its early doors yet hedski the sc gods have nearly finished crapping cheers NDD

DacZawson · 16/04/2018 at 22:56

Disappointing start to the year.
While I'm only really concerned with my main league, I do keep a close eye on my rankings; and what I'm seeing at the moment is pretty poor – albeit purely due to just one horrific week.
Holding Billings and Hibberd at the moment. Billings is likely to stay there all season and giving Hibberd more time, although a turd this week could see him turn into Yeo.

Just a general note to all community members after reading through the last few article comment sections, unless you have an exceptional circumstance with your team where it seems logical to make the move on a rookie, bringing in a rookie after just 1 game is almost always the wrong option. So save your comments on Mirra or any other rookies that have a good first game until they have played 2 games.

That is all.

    Lekdog · 16/04/2018 at 22:57

    Agree, bringing a one gamer in will burn you

      Corey · 16/04/2018 at 23:11

      We all know what happened with Higgins

    Scouser · 18/04/2018 at 23:26

    Think it's ok if it's a bottom priced rookie and you're convinced of his job security and his level and helps you with a corrective but yeah not ideal off 1 weeks worth of stats

Mike · 16/04/2018 at 23:19

Thoughts on Hibbered to Coffield.. Goldstein to Grundy. 600k in bank. Next week up to Smpson. Week after up to Danger

    Patch · 16/04/2018 at 23:30

    You're a man with a plan, Mike. Grundy looking essential at this stage

    David C · 17/04/2018 at 07:47

    Wouldn't be in a hurry to jump on Simpson, his scores have been going down since his 150 in week 1.

    Post_MaSloane · 17/04/2018 at 19:21

    This seems a lot like going backwards rather than forwards

      Scouser · 18/04/2018 at 23:27

      How is goldy to Grundy going backwards? Agree with the Simpson comment though, backline looks bereft of true premise atm

Josh Kelly · 16/04/2018 at 23:20

Everyone’s feedback would be greatly appreciated, I have 3.3k in the bank and 28 trades left, I’m thinking of trading Brayshaw to Coffield and Hibberd to Yeo, what does everyone think? Here’s my team in case anyone has any better suggestions!

Laird, savage, Hibberd, Finlayson, Doedee, Murray (Naughton, Murphy)

Dangerfield, Mitchell, Martin, Fyfe, Parker, Coniglio, Kelly, Banfield (Brayshaw, Dow, Holman)

Gawn, Naitanui (Olango)

Heeney, Devon Smith, Curnow, Taranto, Stephenson, Garlett (Fritsch, Fogarty)

Also another big question since my only non playing players play Friday night (Murphy) and Saturday afternoon (Olango) before the the 4 gun midfielders play, who do I make my VC, Coniglio, Parker or Laird?

    Patch · 16/04/2018 at 23:30

    Like those trades Josh!

    Can't go past Cogs with the VC, although Laird an excellent pick as well

    Derek · 17/04/2018 at 09:55

    I think Yeo’s BE is still over 200?

      SC_Sixty6 · 17/04/2018 at 10:07

      120 odd Derek

        Leeds17 · 17/04/2018 at 19:59

        He doesn't tend to go to well at the G but is playing Carlton… Probably end up tagging Cripps lol

Patch · 16/04/2018 at 23:27

Well done me for saying "there's no-one really worth trading out for Coffield" while forgetting Brayshaw is a thing.

Also community, how many trades you got left after this round? I'm curious as to where peeps are at

    Finnius · 16/04/2018 at 23:51

    25 patch – after 2 injuries, 2 premo corrections and getting rid of clarke.

    hedski · 16/04/2018 at 23:54

    Sad to say I've used 5 trades.
    1 corrective.
    2 on Ryan, got him in after round 2, punted him to Henry last week.
    1 Crouch to Cogs after round 2.
    1 Brayshaw to Titch last week.
    Really don't want to use any more soon, Kreuzer to Grundy could tempt me if he's not named this week but it would mean going early on Mirra/Guefli and I'm not keen on that.
    Have English to cover Kreuz anyway, I'll hold Billings. (Have held Greene, Sicily and Kelly)
    Good to hear you didn't sound like you were talking underwater this week Patch, pods improving every week, thanks lads.

      TommyC99 · 17/04/2018 at 17:56

      Same situation regarding Kruez. Would need to 2 trades to bring in Grundy. Reckon Grundy will monster Bellchambers this week, but I’m already down to 26 trades so don’t like the idea of being on 24 trades without doing an upgrade

    Lazza · 17/04/2018 at 00:19

    Went pure Premos and Rookies … so have no mid-price players …Pre this round I have 29 trades and $235K in the bank, but looking at trading Hibberd and Zorko … only rookie in my squad who is nearing BE is Brayshaw … looking at Yeo, Hurley, Savage, Martin, Macrae … trying to resist the sideways trade of Zorko…. but can see myself with 27 trades after this round.

    JEL · 17/04/2018 at 00:42

    25 here – have 7 rookies to upgrade + any other 50/50's who may or may not work out (Petracca / Sicily / Nank / Smith )

    BundyBear · 17/04/2018 at 00:47

    32. I kept 4 from last year

      Tibor · 17/04/2018 at 16:38

      Great rule change, just like stockpiling future draft picks

    Ahmad rubas · 17/04/2018 at 07:09

    29 left but I have no dusty and no titch so maybe should stop being conservative and be more aggresive

    Derek · 17/04/2018 at 09:48

    Remember Menapoo. He was the slowest burn every, and then out of nowhere he went 130+

    Only need that one good score.

    He has the ability. Give him every chance.

    Derek · 17/04/2018 at 09:52

    Used 3 trades. All injury related.

    Venables to a rookie this week depending on his injury and how long out.

      Defying_Madness · 17/04/2018 at 17:58

      Not many options if you don't use DPP unless you go early on the essendon rookie.

        Derek · 17/04/2018 at 21:56

        Might just hold

    Multi_ · 17/04/2018 at 09:56

    26 before any trades this week which I’m hoping to make none.
    Injuries to Ablett, ZGL, Ryan and Crouch are the 4 trades in hindsight I should of kept Langdon.
    Venables down this week and also have Murphy

    This week long SuperCoach round is going to drive me mad, anyone else seem to check your team during the round when there hasn’t been a game played like a crazy person. Or is that just me

    The Ranger · 17/04/2018 at 10:04

    26 left – two correctives, two LTI's so far.
    Aiming to hold this week.

    BockChoy · 17/04/2018 at 11:51

    27 left… used one for Crouch -> Dusty plus 2 rookie downgrades (Brayshaw -> Crowden; Murphy -> Richards).

    My best POD so far has been not having Danger!

      Derek · 17/04/2018 at 21:58

      Only 16% had him round 1

    BrownlowBoy · 17/04/2018 at 17:02


    Neverweaken · 17/04/2018 at 17:50

    25 and no trades this week.

    Stupid Coach · 17/04/2018 at 23:19

    27 trades left. Made two trades last week (down grades) Not sure what my strategy will be this week.

    DavidSA · 18/04/2018 at 00:25

    Have 26 trades left after my double upgrade Fisher and Bonner > Gray and Sicily
    Waiting on rooks to fatten

    Might be regretting not starting O'meara
    But Merret and Danger are high on my list to fill my last 2 mid spots when they bottom out.
    After that it's just getting D5,6 and F5,6 finished

    JibJib · 18/04/2018 at 12:06

    1 corrective: Lambert to Christensen
    2 injuries: Crouch to Tichell and Ryan to Henry

    Not trading this week unless something dramatic occurs when the teams are announced.

    b_sh3p · 18/04/2018 at 20:22

    I have all my trades

    Russty_ · 18/04/2018 at 21:10

    Have 26 left Patch, did two this week and then came to my senses and reversed.

jason · 16/04/2018 at 23:34

anyone have an update on harley bennell? i heard hes close to a WAFL return

    SC_Sixty6 · 17/04/2018 at 09:31

    He's a lost cause. Not SC relevant.

      jason · 17/04/2018 at 10:56

      for draft league he is

        Frank · 17/04/2018 at 12:01

        thats exactly right jason, i have my peepers on him for draft league too

Jordan · 17/04/2018 at 00:08

What to do with Bradshaw(Freo)?
1. Trade to coffield this week
2. Wait for next week to bring either mirra or cunico
3. trade to 0’meara
4. Hold him

    Russty_ · 17/04/2018 at 00:32

    No offence but the y is nowhere near the d on the qwerty keyboard,
    It's Brayshaw. ๐Ÿ™‚

      Northerner · 17/04/2018 at 02:58

      I’ve had the same issue. It’s an autocorrect thing

      Slurper · 17/04/2018 at 05:14

      Slurper did you consult your new friends the two pirates of peasantry for an opinion or is this your own forthcoming commentary?

      Disappointed in you Rusty and Adminstrators boot the two clowns who are ruining this site of late.

      Not regular contributors like Rusty even know he’s gone a little rough at the knees – tighten up son!

        Judas · 17/04/2018 at 12:03

        haha this is gold

      Marty · 18/04/2018 at 20:58

      Sex and the Supercoach City?

    Russty_ · 18/04/2018 at 21:08

    Hey Jordan, my option would be, see how Mirra and Guelfi go this week, and go Brayshaw to one of them.

Gog · 17/04/2018 at 00:24

Picked shaw over Simpson at round 2s end Haha what a fail. Also Merrett is tasty. Hopefully McGovern keeps up his form too.

fcabel · 17/04/2018 at 00:24

Patch. I love you…but it’s a simile, not a metaphor.

    Sana · 17/04/2018 at 14:26

    No. He won't hear anything else from anyone.

    Patch · 17/04/2018 at 22:08

    Touché. Technically correct is always the best form of correct

StevoRivo · 17/04/2018 at 06:18

28 trades & $195k. Reluctant to trade at all. Only possible options appear to be…

1. Brayshaw to Coffield to open up the Finlayson swing;
2. Brayshaw & Holman to Coffiled & Taranto;
3. Brayshaw & Hibberd to Coffield & Hurley;
4. Hold.

    David C · 17/04/2018 at 07:56

    Hold I think.

      StevoRivo · 17/04/2018 at 08:02

      Thanks David. Yes hold is my preference. Hibberd will may only just make top 10 defenders. Not sure on Coffield and think Brayshaw can get his BE. Hoping anyway!

    Scouser · 18/04/2018 at 23:39

    Don't see any reason to keep Brayshaw at this stage, not scoring points and not making money, going to Coffield (or holding one more week and looking at Mirra) would be stirring my interest if I had him

    joe · 20/04/2018 at 10:47

    I like option 2 maybe mirra and taranto

Mike · 17/04/2018 at 06:30

Got rid of hibbered two weeks ago and not looking back definetly not a top ten def

    Corey · 17/04/2018 at 07:55


    b_sh3p · 18/04/2018 at 20:27

    I'm holding… Possibly the dumbest person in SC! Time will tell. Did the same with Lambert and he pulled out at least 1 good score so fingers crossed! Currently have all my trades

Corey · 17/04/2018 at 07:50

27 trades left, is it worth downgrading Brayshaw tin coffield for a 40K boost

    Dukes · 17/04/2018 at 08:06

    I'm holding Brayshaw as long as Lyon keeps playing him

      Derek · 17/04/2018 at 09:44

      Like LEK said. He just needs one big game.

      Think Menapoo!

    Lazza · 17/04/2018 at 08:15

    I don’t think Bradshaw to Coffield is a value trade unless the DPP fixes ability to field a team or future trade moves. However, having $218k on a slow burn also is not a good investment with fast trackers available.. tough call, but with 15 games plus finals to go trading should be on a ‘no option’ or premium upgrade basis.

      The Ranger · 17/04/2018 at 10:17

      It's that DPP that's tempting Lazza.
      Not many around with the def/mid status this year.and being able to ditch Finlayson in a few weeks time and then swap Coffield into the def and get a fallen mid premo seems like a good plan.
      Not sure I'll do it but I can see the temptation.

        Scouser · 18/04/2018 at 23:42

        Finlayson could be a keeper at the rate defensive premos are scoring. I'd probably give him another week and look to move him on for Mirra which will bank you a very valuable additional $70k over the Coffield trade

BadgerHoney7 · 17/04/2018 at 08:57

Currently I am looking like :
(25 Trades – 150,800)
DEF: Laird, Shaw, Sicily, Bonner, Doedee, Murray – Coffield, Murphy
MID: Danger, Titch, Dusty, Fyfe, Cripps, JOM, Kelly, Finlayson – Holman, Banfield, Barry
RUCK: Gawn, Nic Nat – Olango
FWD: Heeney, Billings, Walters, Dev Smith, Christensen, Fritsch – Henry, Garlett

This week went Brayshaw to Coffield – Swung Coffield down back and Finlayson in the midfield. Don't really know what changes I shall make next week so feedback would be appreciated.

JugHead · 17/04/2018 at 09:25

Not sure why ppl are in a hurry to get rid of holman. Consistent performer up until this week. A bit more mature bodied than some of the younger rooks. Sure his BE has climbed a bit, but I think he will fatten up a bit more yet.

    Sc_Wow · 17/04/2018 at 09:39

    Think his position changed on the weekend so will be interesting to see if that stays the same

      Scouser · 18/04/2018 at 23:44

      Spot on call wow, played forward at the weekend, if he's back in the guts this week you'd be mad to trade him out, I'm holding even if he's fwd with such a low breakeven.

    Mystic Mac · 17/04/2018 at 10:29

    agree JugHead. I'm holding

    Venitian · 17/04/2018 at 11:50

    Holman is cooked. Needs a rest for a week or two.

    MadDoggyDog · 17/04/2018 at 12:08

    He is also playing Brisbane – should help his score a bit as well

      DavidSA · 18/04/2018 at 00:42

      BE 22 and playing Brisbane ๐Ÿ‘Œ Only a lazy 80 on the cards
      Have to keep him this week at the least. Crazy how many coaches have moved him on

    joe · 20/04/2018 at 10:51

    Holman and l ryan 4 Taranto and mirra yes or no

Macka · 17/04/2018 at 10:05

Thoughts on Dunkley? Posted scores of 87 vs GWS, 67 vs WCE, 92 vs ESS and 107 vs SYD so far and can see him averaging 80+ for season, so is he a steal at 360k or is the money better spent elsewhere?

    Dice_real · 17/04/2018 at 10:44

    Better elsewhere Macka, not a top 10 fwd so you'd be wasting a trade later in the year again.
    As for money making, best you'd get is 100K

      Sc_Wow · 17/04/2018 at 11:38

      Spot on dice, was a nice pick if you started with him but he’s not making you any money at that price

    D_I_L_D_O_R · 17/04/2018 at 11:03

    Started the year with him :D, cash to be made but ill offload at some point to go up to buddy

    CJudd3Votes · 17/04/2018 at 16:12

    Would've had 160 if he could kick straight

    Scouser · 18/04/2018 at 23:47

    Surely Parfitt a better option/risk at similar price, didn't look to convincing at the weekend, did he have his boots on the wrong feet?

Moosehead · 17/04/2018 at 10:26

Thanks Lekdog, you are always interesting and I enjoy your instructive comments.
You probably won’t agree with what I have done but here goes.
Started off the first two games with 2350+ and then dropped to two 2150+ = big drop in ratings. To date have used two corrective trades.
Bonner, who I had from the start. BE of 50 and set to rise $10K to Coffield. BE -45. Set to rise 50K.
Holman, yes he has been good but maybe needs a rest. Gone up $130+K. Low BE 25 and set to rise $15K, to Coniglio. BE 71 and set to rise $15. Now have 26 trades with 7 mid premiums.
More interested in winning my three leagues but also like the challenge of competing against the ‘Big boys’. Cheers!

Jacob · 17/04/2018 at 10:29

get rid or zorko? thoughts

    Willymack1234 · 17/04/2018 at 11:03

    He’s playing Gold Coast this weekend so I’d hold for another week

    D_I_L_D_O_R · 17/04/2018 at 11:04

    Also concerned here, im giving him one more against GC this week, if he cant perform he's gone. ๐Ÿ™

    theRealPod · 17/04/2018 at 14:28

    He is not the magnificent this season but will still drop a massive score or two. I had him and dumped him early as the signs were there. I suspect Holman will go to him this week.

JugHead · 17/04/2018 at 10:38

I still have Ryan (WCE) on my fwd bench. I'm not too excited about any fwd rookies to bring in for him. I also have English on my ruck bench. Looking at 2 options.
1. Cull an underforming midfield rookie (I have Dow and Brayshaw) and bring in Coffield. The bit of cash generated would allow me to upgrade Ryan to McLean or Gray..
2. Trade Ryan for a cheap non playing ruck/fwd dpp to set up a swing with English. I can then put English on field if required. Cash generated allows me to upgrade Dow or Brayshaw to a premo mid.

    JugHead · 17/04/2018 at 10:41

    Of course, with option 2 it raises the issue of English's JS. If he gets dropped to bring in Roughhead or Boyd…..not good.

      Dice_real · 17/04/2018 at 10:50

      Can you do 1 with buddy? Even if its Mirra and not Coff for that extra coin?

        JugHead · 17/04/2018 at 11:13

        Hmmm. Had to sharpen the pencil for that one……
        Option 3. Dow out. Coffield in……….Ryan out. Buddy in. Leaves 4k in the kitty.

          Dice_real · 17/04/2018 at 11:16

          Like it Jug. Who's your other fwd premiums?

            JugHead · 17/04/2018 at 11:24

            Fwd line is:
            Heeney, Mundy, Petracca, Waterman, Stephenson, Fritsch (Garlett, Ryan)

              Dice_real · 17/04/2018 at 11:34

              Nice jugs

              Dice_real · 17/04/2018 at 11:34

              Nice team too

          pod · 17/04/2018 at 16:59


Dice_real · 17/04/2018 at 10:50

Those thinking of bringing in Coffield over Mirra, sure Coffield's job security is pretty good right now.

Just think why Hawthorn drafted a 27 year old backman, VFL captain for the last 4 years…..not to play VFL, his spot is up to him!

    JugHead · 17/04/2018 at 11:38

    Planning on getting them both. Coffield this week. When Mirra is on the bubble, hoping to bring him in for Naughton.

      gator59 · 17/04/2018 at 11:44

      I started with mirra because my hawks contacts say he is a sure thing and coming from the source I have is good enough for me

      At least I can say I've saved a trade there

    The Birdman · 17/04/2018 at 11:48

    As a Hawks boy, I have watched Mirra play well in the VFL. However, as is my normal practice I will watch him again next week and assuming he does ok, I will be one of 1000’s who will select this $102K defender, and, by trading out Bonner, who is slowing down will grab Hurley, who is a top three defender, as he was last year too.

      Derek · 17/04/2018 at 11:55

      his score was boosted by Frawley being sick. But he did ok.

        The Birdman · 17/04/2018 at 13:08

        Derek. You are a Hawker also. Yes, Frawley being sick helped him, but Mira has been taught the Hawthorn way and if he does well again week I bet you get him too.

          Derek · 17/04/2018 at 14:03

          i was at the game and watched him very closely. he is strong, can't remember seeing him get beaten in a on-on-one. nice kick as well.

      JugHead · 17/04/2018 at 12:00

      Sounds good. The irony is that defensive rooks have been the least of our problems so far. But he looks too good to pass up. Can see lots of people swinging Finlayson to the mids to get Mirra in. Will also allow you to get rid of an underperforming mid rookie. OK….I think I just talked myself into it.

    NoLanguage · 19/04/2018 at 00:15

    Exactly my thinking! Mirra and Guelfi next week for LDU and Venables $$$

Ryan · 17/04/2018 at 10:51

Hibberd to Coffield?

    JugHead · 17/04/2018 at 11:22

    My gut says no. But it depends what you spend the cash on. If it allows you to upgrade a non playing or non performing 200k rookie to a genuine premo mid, then maybe. I'd be surprised if Hibberd starts scoring any worse. I'd also be surprised if Coffield starts scoring any better. But then, SC is always surprising me.

Pranav Santhosh · 17/04/2018 at 11:00

was reading a pre season article on here about rookies and could someone explain to me what ROI is?

    JugHead · 17/04/2018 at 11:15

    return on investment

    Derek · 17/04/2018 at 11:59

    who would you prefer, a $102k rookie who makes you $150k, or a $170k rookie who makes you $200k.

    as a percentage the cheaper rookie is a better return (percentage) on your intital investment.

    it does depend on what you did with the extra $68k saved. If you just have cash sitting in the bank, you need to factor that into your ROI calculation.

BrianTaylor15 · 17/04/2018 at 11:45

if was to trade one player who should it be
1) Billings
2) Hibberd
3) J Kelly
4) Zorko
5) Lycett

    Derek · 17/04/2018 at 12:02

    trade out i assume?

    Billings, Hibbo and Zorko are all premiums and need to be held.

    The other two were only stepping stones. Have either of them maxed out their price? prob not.

      D_I_L_D_O_R · 17/04/2018 at 12:22

      Hard to say that Kelly is a stepping stone at 600k? His injury is scaring me, GWS say nothing

        Derek · 17/04/2018 at 14:04

        sorry, i thought it was T Kelly.

        I have J Kelly and holding him for now.

    INPieman · 17/04/2018 at 12:05

    If your trading out BT I'd suggest all of them

    Lazza · 17/04/2018 at 13:40

    Kelly is the only one not playing and is carrying an injury .. So he would be my pick as you can virtually pick any side-trade.
    Of the others .. I have Zorko and Hibberd … I am so tempted …

    Sana · 17/04/2018 at 14:22

    Billings or Hibberd BT

      Johnno · 20/04/2018 at 12:38

      I traded Hibberd to Yeo, would love to do both but trades are gold

Mystic Mac · 17/04/2018 at 12:19

Boy oh Boy Woweeeee

cburgz · 17/04/2018 at 12:22

liam ryan is my loophole atm who plays fairly early this week so who would you vc out of laird, heeney, greene or coniglio and captain out of grundy, fyfe, dusty or mitchell?
leaning towards greene (vc) and grundy (c). I feel like greene will go big against a struggling stkilda and grundy playing the big anzac day clash with really good form atm. thoughts??

    theRealPod · 17/04/2018 at 14:23

    Hey cburgz I would VC Greene and C on Dusty. What a long week of footy!

      Scouser · 18/04/2018 at 23:57

      I like the Greene VC option, not so sure about Dusty, surely they'll send Vince to him? Grundy in red hot form but both sides will be up for it AD, Fyfe a good option this week also. I'd be steering clear of Mitch after last week and entering into the SC vortex aka Ben Jacobs!

    David C · 17/04/2018 at 15:52

    I'm doing Coniglio into Fyfe but Laird is a good vc option also.

Crowboy94 · 17/04/2018 at 12:57

Do people think Mirra will get more than a couple of games?

    INPieman · 17/04/2018 at 13:06

    This is not the week to get him in. Wait till he's named for his third

      JugHead · 17/04/2018 at 13:17


      KSinny · 17/04/2018 at 14:07

      agreed x2

    Tibor · 17/04/2018 at 16:43

    One more ride on the Bonner train then have a look in the Mirra. Bonner has a Be of about 50 odd so the down grade to Mirra might really work some magic. I've got JOM who has a BE in the negatives so the double trade could be the Danger in move if things go to plan

    theRealPod · 17/04/2018 at 18:52

    He's got JS if he plays like he did against Dees.

    Scouser · 18/04/2018 at 23:59

    Definitely, especially with the Hawks injury list growing but you need to wait a week at least and then see him named for his 3rd gane otherwise it defeats the whole purpose of trading.

JJames · 17/04/2018 at 13:32

Might seem crazy but I am looking to build a bigger watches and goldy looks to go down in price whilst English looks like he will go up in price a bit, also a couple 70s and an 80 something (correct me if I'm wrong) for English looks very arousing
Any thoughts community???

    JJames · 17/04/2018 at 13:40

    warchest* stupid auto correct

    INPieman · 17/04/2018 at 13:52

    Depends on what your planning to do with the money. Unless it's going to net you 2 magnificent upgrades I wouldn't bother

      JJames · 17/04/2018 at 15:20

      It will get me from a bottomed out rookie to a premium and possibly another roomie to a premium so It might get me one upgrade possibly 2 depending on how the second rookie performs

    Northernsoul74 · 17/04/2018 at 14:02

    He’s got a big task against Sandi this weekend. He’s still developing and fairly sure he’ll get rested at some point. Great as a R3 but too risky for R2.

      JJames · 17/04/2018 at 15:26

      Lets see how he goes against Fremantle if he performs I might just do the trade

        Swans2012 · 17/04/2018 at 15:46

        It'll be too late then after another price rise….

JugHead · 17/04/2018 at 13:55

I like the kid, but no.If the motive is cash generation, its just too risky at this point. You hsve missed the first 90k and if he gets dropped or injured (as plenty of young developing ruckmen do) its a serious pain in the arse. You would be trading up from him later anyway, and seeing as his best score is mid 80's, I can't see the cash generation from here justifying the risk and another trade. Get a premo ruck and make your cash on other lines that are easier to cover if something goes wrong.

    JJames · 17/04/2018 at 15:28

    As a north supported Goldy looks cooked and it's just s matter of time and preussys body before goldy is sent to the seconds, English is the clear ruckman there and if he keeps an average of 70-80 I would be happy and when a fallen premium shows, snap him up for english

Derek · 17/04/2018 at 14:14

Jordon Lewis broken his hand, out for a few weeks.

Does this change Hibbo's role? does he get a few kick-ins now?

    Ahmad rubas · 17/04/2018 at 14:18

    Yeah should be, hopefully hibberd tons up this week

    theRealPod · 17/04/2018 at 14:23

    Think you nailed it Derek, Hibbo owners rejoice.

      Tibor · 17/04/2018 at 16:46

      A few Melbourne supporters would be happy too, he has been terrible and at least we can save some face and just leave him out injured, thank god he cost us bugger all..

    INPieman · 17/04/2018 at 14:34

    Damn. Reverse trades again

    David C · 17/04/2018 at 14:50

    Just reversed my Hibberd trade.

    SC_Sixty6 · 17/04/2018 at 15:08

    Just a few while Lewis is out and then when Lewis is back things will return to normal. 23 rounds in a year. 3-4 weeks doesn't make a keeper. Watching his form, it's nothing to be excited about.

    Laird, Simpson, yeo, Hurley top 4 I predict with McGovern, Ryan, Howe, Hurn coming in behind and then Rance, Lloyd, hibberd, savage.

      JugHead · 17/04/2018 at 15:12

      Plenty will laugh….but I'd be happy to chuck Tuohy and Witherden into that second group.

        JJames · 17/04/2018 at 15:25

        I second that, for me it would be Laird, Hurley, Simpson, Savage, Yeo, Howe THEN Tuohy and witherden. I'd pick witherden and tuohy over rance, mcgovern and hurn anyday

          JugHead · 17/04/2018 at 15:34

          Theres no rush with the way the def rookies are travelling, but I expect to bring Witherden in as a keeper at some point. 85+ average in his first year, and doing better than that so far this year. And the ball will be at his end of the ground a lot.

            SC_Sixty6 · 17/04/2018 at 15:37

            Yeah agree, Witherden a jet.

              zerowins · 17/04/2018 at 15:48

              What about sicily

                SC_Sixty6 · 17/04/2018 at 16:02

                I have him fwd atm. But yes can swing him.

                I'd have him in first tier if back.

    Keenbutclueless · 17/04/2018 at 16:47

    Might be blind faith and ignoring what’s staring us right in the face, but this is enough for me to hold. I have been advocating aggressive trading for those like me who are off the pace. The safe way for me would either be don’t trade at all, or turn Hibberd into Hurley. I think the aggressive way is to keep Hibberd and take a risk of going early on upgrading a rookie that might have some cash left in him to a slightly under premium. I know I might be choosing a quick death over a long slow death, but my experience over the past few seasons has been to follow the conventional wisdom. Yes, I have improved by season end, but still a long way off it.

      Derek · 17/04/2018 at 16:59

      yeah. I'm not saying get him in based on lewis missing a couple of weeks. if you have him, it might be worth holding him this week and see if he can score a few points and make a couple of dollaridoos

        SC_Sixty6 · 17/04/2018 at 17:12

        But hibberd is a keeper so 'dollaridoos' is irrelevant. You're either holding cause you think he's top 6 or you're trading because he is turning into a liability.

          Valens_FC · 17/04/2018 at 20:55

          Not sure I get the constant references to top 6, top 15, top 8 etc. The longer the season goes on the more that just becomes the same point chasing you would criticise people for doing. The objective with premo trades surely has to be top X from this point onwards not top overall… can’t go back and get those points from past rounds.

            Valens_FC · 17/04/2018 at 20:58

            If Goodwin decides 2018 version of dees not working (reasonable chance of this conclusion?) and goes back to 2017 version, using the lewy out to get hibbo back to 2017 role then he’ll be a good chance of top 6 from here maybe won’t get to top 6 overall.

              SC_Sixty6 · 17/04/2018 at 22:31

              Of course but I was more talking about people that started with Hibberd. If they started with him they expected him to be top 6 and a keeper. Starting someone that you think might be top 15 is pointless.

              People that trade hibberd in later for a lower price may well get him at a top 6 back from the point of trading him in.

    Crowboy94 · 17/04/2018 at 17:15

    I think Melbourne might wake up and realise they need to use Hibberd more like last year!

    Watchmo · 17/04/2018 at 20:13

    Good point Derek. I’ll watch him next week and if his roll changes I’ll swap him for Bonner. $460 for an up and running Demon is a steal.

Neverweaken · 17/04/2018 at 14:33

Looks like no trades this week. Mirra and Guelfi next week. Might just to build up the warchest for towards the byes. Would have liked to grab Yeo but the 150 didnt help and the 27 will be gone before I can get him. So will watch n wait until the byes I think

BrownlowBoy · 17/04/2018 at 15:29

G'day Derek,

With injuries to Rioli and Poppy, does it open the door for Worpel to come into the side? I know he's a in and under midfielder, but Hawks seem to thrive on versatility. Any chance he gets a gig?

    Derek · 17/04/2018 at 17:06

    I think Clarko will look at J Impey and say this is why we got you mate.

    Impey was going into a fair few centre bounces, so with him camping up forward, maybe there is an opening in the guts for Worpel.

    Duryea is another who could go forward to put pressure on and open up a defensive place.

      Derek · 17/04/2018 at 17:20

      i think Burton will be back this week, he might go forward.

        Defying_Madness · 17/04/2018 at 17:29

        Yeah that wouldn't surprise me

      BrownlowBoy · 17/04/2018 at 18:34

      If Duryea goes forward – does that mean Mirra is likely to remain in the team?

        Derek · 17/04/2018 at 18:43

        i think Mirra did enough to play this week. Burton can also go forward.

        langford can also go into the guts

    jez_m · 18/04/2018 at 21:38

    Burton and Cousins come in for mine.

BingoBangoJingoJango · 17/04/2018 at 15:58

Yeo, Gray or Mclean in this week community. Any advice on who may average the most from now?

    Jace · 17/04/2018 at 16:05

    Robbie Gray wont play midfield every week so his scoring will go up and down just be mindful of that.

      DacZawson · 17/04/2018 at 16:08

      I wouldn't make that call too early, Gray may very well become a lot more of a midfielder than last year.
      BBJJ at this point I'd say McLean, Gray then Yeo for highest average.

        Jace · 18/04/2018 at 13:40

        Robbie Gray has already been quoted saying he may play forward this week

    CJudd3Votes · 17/04/2018 at 16:22

    In terms of roughly best and worst case week to week:
    Gray has a super high ceiling but is a risk in terms of both injury and time spent forward (50s to 140s).
    Yeo's ceiling probably not as high but might be a little safer (70s to 130s).
    Mclean has the lowest ceiling of the lot and admittingly I don't watch the Doggies much but seems to be a pretty solid choice (80s-120s).

    Be worth looking at your bye structure but personally i think despite the fact Gray is a gun, he benefitted from no SPP. Yeo recently dropped that turd which makes my above comment look foolish and hence Mclean is my man

      Derek · 17/04/2018 at 17:08

      i've watched the doggies a bit, and honestly i can't tell McLean apart from most of the other doggies. Is it just me or do they all look the same.

        CJudd3Votes · 17/04/2018 at 17:13

        He is the Dalhaus clone with number 16 on his back

    Holty01 · 17/04/2018 at 16:26

    If you want them all, id go Yeo first as his price has fallen a bit with his 27 2 weeks ago.

    Holty01 · 17/04/2018 at 16:44

    And sorry didnt read the average part. Id say Gray, Mclean, Yeo

    JibJib · 18/04/2018 at 12:22

    Gray has history on his side, McLean looks like he's breaking out.

    Flip a coin

Marcus · 17/04/2018 at 17:06

Anyone know any news on Giles-Langdon's return date?

    Lazza · 17/04/2018 at 20:07

    He is up for selection this week. Will be 1more week at worst.

Defying_Madness · 17/04/2018 at 17:08

Adam Simpson says Venables is 'pretty sore' what that means I am not sure

    Dice_real · 17/04/2018 at 17:10

    I thought the same, then I reckon he said same time out as Ryan

    theRealPod · 17/04/2018 at 18:48

    Sounds bad if he said that.

      Brandon · 17/04/2018 at 18:58

      Out for couple months

Steeeve · 17/04/2018 at 17:11

Planning to hold off this week and then trade bonner to Mirra and Brayshaw to Merrett. Should leave me with $100,000 in the bank.
I can also make the trade this week. Or go Bonner to Coffield and Brayshaw to Merrett this week.

The question is: do I go for maximum value and wait a week, or do I take a step toward being full premo asap?

What is your philosophy?

    Crowboy94 · 17/04/2018 at 17:29

    Wait a week mate. Mirra will be a good downgrade if he is named for a 3rd week. And Merrett is set to drop even more.

Crowboy94 · 17/04/2018 at 17:21


Wayne Campbell the GM at GWS just said that he is a week by week injury atm and that they will be conservative bringing him back.

If you haven't traded him DO IT NOW!

    Defying_Madness · 17/04/2018 at 17:29

    They also said he could play this week. I could go down to Coniglio or up to Danger but I would prefer to wait on Danger.

Derek · 17/04/2018 at 17:26

JOM. 82, 63, 104, 145…… is he a sneaky top 15 mid?

    Crowboy94 · 17/04/2018 at 17:28

    One to keep an eye on I think

      Derek · 17/04/2018 at 17:33

      TMitch will get the heavy tag this week. JOM off the chain again.

        JugHead · 17/04/2018 at 17:56

        There's a lot of upside for sure. Question is whether you trust his body to hold together.

        Theoriginalforce · 17/04/2018 at 19:23

        Will they bother since it backfired last week?

    HallyMate · 17/04/2018 at 18:08

    I noticed in the first couple of games he had big first halves then completely dropped off, I think he’s still building a bit of match fitness and once he starts putting 4 quarters together like he did on the weekend he will be a big chance at top 15 mids

    Multi_ · 17/04/2018 at 18:37

    I’m seriously considering bringing him in for Brayshaw

      r_calve · 17/04/2018 at 18:51

      you and me both, what a speciman he is

    Keenbutclueless · 17/04/2018 at 18:58

    You talked him up a bit in preseason. I was keen, but still leaning G&R. Then Danger out made him a good selection for me. Saw him as my way to Danger. It’s working out that way – or he might sit as M8 for a while if he keeps producing. You swayed me, so thanks for that. hope you ended up picking him as well.

      Derek · 17/04/2018 at 21:24

      I couldn’t fit him in.

      As s hawks fan I’m bias.

      Went to game on weekend, he was running better than anyone. Even late in game.

    DavidSA · 18/04/2018 at 00:35

    I think 2 goals 9 tackles and kicking way more than handballs this time is what got him that massive score and can't do that most games.
    He is a 21-31 disposal player firstly which is ok but a guy that tends to handball more than kick and needs goals 6+ tackles to go over 120 nah

      Derek · 18/04/2018 at 09:42

      Mitchell got a lot of attention. This is going to happen more. Even Shiels got a good score on weekend. The hawks don’t have much midfield depth, JOM will get better as year goes.

      If going to get him, this is last chance under $400k

        BloodyFranklin · 18/04/2018 at 09:46

        What's the go with the 2 Dereks?

          SC_Sixty6 · 18/04/2018 at 10:10

          Someone is going to alot of effort. Good spot Franklin only just noticed it.

            BloodyFranklin · 18/04/2018 at 13:56

            Thanks Heisenberg. ๐Ÿป

r_calve · 17/04/2018 at 17:43

this may sound stupid but could bringing in jom be a good option, he ha sonly gained about 75k and has a very low breakeven so will gain coin and he looks to have found his groove now that the opposition wont be givving him a thought 9 (GREAT TO WATCH AS WELL SO A BONUS)


    theRealPod · 17/04/2018 at 18:39

    I dont see him top 10 but if Titch keeps getting the tag and he stays fit, he will be ok. I didn't start with him so not going to chase him.

scrotum · 17/04/2018 at 17:44

liking the way lids is moving, 300 odd is very tempting . Thoughts

    D_I_L_D_O_R · 17/04/2018 at 17:46

    Playing a different role to last year, coming off his natural half back where he plays his best football. I'd be concerned about his calfs but definitely one to watch for a bargain.

      scrotum · 17/04/2018 at 18:22

      yeah mate , could be worth the risk but could be a nice reward if he holds himself together

        Whatyasmokin · 17/04/2018 at 21:17

        If u had practically zero risks elsewhere then yes.

Bells · 17/04/2018 at 17:52

There's no way that rookie tonned up on the podcast last week. A solid 74 for mine.
Let's not get carried away and be condescending fellas. Showed promise, worth giving him a few games this season. Could up the possession count.

    Derek · 17/04/2018 at 21:18

    His TOM (time on mike) was fairly low but his efficiency was through the roof. Very impressive first up effort.

r_calve · 17/04/2018 at 18:11

shoud billings go if ive only used two trade so far

    Whatyasmokin · 17/04/2018 at 21:15

    If you are ranked well and cruising nicely. Keeper or rookie though., not another risk.

TOPHAWK1 · 17/04/2018 at 18:50

Nice podcast gents!

I need to cull one rook this week to raise cash. Either Bonner or Andrew Brayshaw for Coffield. Finlayson down back. Is it worth just punting Bonner and grab the $150K and having both Coffield and Finlayson down back at this stage? Can always swing one to the midfield later with a DPP trade. Finlayson is likely to be culled in a month or so as his BE will reach his average before the byes in any case.

Getting Bonner out of my hair for Coffield would give me $280K in the warchest to replace either Hibberd, Billings, or Nankervis for Grundy. Or keep all three for now and stay discliplined……Bloody hard with those two spuds in my side mind you.

Cheers community!

    Crowboy94 · 17/04/2018 at 19:22

    Hold all 3 of those mate. Cull Brayshaw If you want to do one trade. I'm going to hold him for another week and see how Mirra goes so I can get some more cash.

    JugHead · 17/04/2018 at 19:22

    I don't have Bonner, but I see it this way. Bonner has one big score from rd 1. That tells me he can play. And he is still scoring just above his BE. I'd try to hold him until Mira comes on the bubble. Brayshaw on the other hand has a BE above his average, is young and will tire, and has a best score of 62. I could be wrong, but I think Bonner has the better scoring potential for the next week or two.
    If it were me, I'd go Brayshaw to Coffield. Then next week go Bonner to Mira or swing Coffield back to take Bonner's spot (if you have all the rookie backs, they are scoring ok for you), then get another mid.

Pauly Walnuts · 17/04/2018 at 19:05

J.Kelly to J.O'Meara
D.Venables to Menegola

Thoughts please ?

    scrotum · 17/04/2018 at 19:16

    at least you know both their upside is south of 120 , not a lot can boast that , having said that parfit is an exception maybe or a potential star

    r_calve · 17/04/2018 at 19:16

    how much bloody cash do you have

    Nuggety · 17/04/2018 at 19:18

    Both players have plenty of upside but only one is a keeper imo and should Menegola be injured thats 4 trades to get back to par. Menegola is a yes but I reckon see if you can compromise to get 2 keepers or 1 and a rookie and bank the cash.

    Whatyasmokin · 17/04/2018 at 21:14

    I have omeara but is he a top 15 mid? I say top because a decent m8 for 400k. Personally not sure id get him now could be two trades so a fail move.

    Derek · 17/04/2018 at 21:14

    JOM is a very good player. Under $390k and about to jump $50k

    I’m considering Holman to JOM this week, I have the cash, and holding Kelly.

    JOM will be my M8. He will either become Danger in round 9 or slips to M9.

      dontblushbaby · 17/04/2018 at 22:48

      Similar , I'm looking at going Dow to JOM ,holding J.Kelly this week but if he's out next week, straight to Danger

    Marty · 18/04/2018 at 21:36

    Very much doubt JOM will be a top 15 mid. He will score well and yes I have him. But he will be a stepping stone to a Danger, Oliver or Crouch.

EasyMoneySniper · 17/04/2018 at 19:07

Greetings Community, I have the chance to make a fwd line upgrade this week and can't really split Heeney, Greene, Mclean or Robbie Gray. Also liking the look of mundy but not to the same extent.

I know Gray is ideal after his bye, but his earlier season form is desired by all coaches so why not get the points now
Mclean has the best bye from all the options but as we all know all the doggies are the exact same player and who knows when roles will change
Heeney's bye isn't great, but with the injuries up forward, Horse Longmire may keep him forward more
Greene just comes with high levels of Late out or suspension and a touch of flog
And mundy is in good touch but i don't know if he will hit the cliff and turd it up

Thoughts community???

    scrotum · 17/04/2018 at 19:18

    A fit robbie gray is a no brainer

    Derek · 17/04/2018 at 21:08

    Heeney will be #1 forward

    Get him in.

    To start he will go big this Friday against a no crouch and sore Sloane crows

      Whatyasmokin · 17/04/2018 at 21:11

      I like this call he's every chance due to his consistency.

    Daniel Z · 18/04/2018 at 02:03

    If Greene is only a touch of flog, I'd hate to see what you consider a full-blown flog.

    Of those forwards, I'd say go with what fits your bye structure best as they're all going to be at the top by the end of the season.

    Scouser · 19/04/2018 at 00:13

    I like McLean out of the choices at this stage, Gray after his bye if still playing mid role then Heeney who is an absolute must have but his bye sucks esp if you already have Buddy. Wor th keeping an eye on Westhoff also once Paddy is back in was looking very good prior to him going down. I'm also hot on Parrott, looks like he could be a key but definitely not in the same league as those mentioned yet.

    NoLanguage · 19/04/2018 at 01:42

    Heeney for sure

Post_MaSloane · 17/04/2018 at 19:13

28 trades left, outed Kelly and Ryan last week for Mitchell and Henry. All of those players have 2 first names. The Supercoach gods are not going to be happy….

    JugHead · 17/04/2018 at 19:41

    If you have Sam Murray and Dom Barry….just give up now..lol

      Post_MaSloane · 17/04/2018 at 22:45

      Yep Jughead have them too… And Mitch Duncan

Krups · 17/04/2018 at 19:55

Goldy to Grundy
Billings to Gray

    Whatyasmokin · 17/04/2018 at 21:09

    Dunno, they appear to be good trades but u are paying high

      Krups · 17/04/2018 at 21:21

      Hmmm true

        DavidSA · 18/04/2018 at 11:26

        It will hurt if from this point onwards and till the end IF both Gray and Grundy only score 5-10 pts more combined vs Billings and Goldstein after cashing in your loses.

        I personally don't think it's a risk to say they won't gain you 20+ pts every round compared to what you have. Just all that cash you are accepting to lose is all.

KSinny · 17/04/2018 at 20:50

This is a bit of a risky play but could work out Well and hopefully be an MLG play.

Trade Kelly to Coffield and swap Finlayson into the midfield and coffield into the backline, then trade Venebles and get Robbie Gray in the forward like leaving me with 200k in the bank to get Danger in about 2 weeks. Thoughts?

    Derek · 17/04/2018 at 21:04

    Do you have any DPP in your forward line?

    You should.

    Just go Kelly to Gray via DPP

      KSinny · 17/04/2018 at 21:08

      Yeah if got Heeney and Petracca, not really sure how to do that can u explain it?

      KSinny · 17/04/2018 at 21:25

      But Gray's only a Mid not a Mid/Fwd

        Derek · 17/04/2018 at 21:51

        Put up your whole team and I’ll show you

          KSinny · 17/04/2018 at 22:26

          (Before trade)
          DEF: Laird, Simpson, Sicily, Doedee, Murray, Finlayson (Naughton, Murphy)

          MID: Titch, Dusty, Kelly, Fyfe, Zerrett, Cripps, Kelly, Holman (Garlett, Brayshaw, Banfield)

          RUC: Gawn, Nank (Olango)

          FWD: Henney, Billings, Smith, Tracca, Fritch, Henry (Venables, Keefe)

            Derek · 17/04/2018 at 23:16

            Trade out Kelly, before you choose who you are going to trade in, you will notice a little ‘s’ above Heeney. Click on the ‘ss’ and then all the trade in players become the forwards. You can select Gray.

            Only problem it this swings Heeney into the midfield for now.

              KSinny · 17/04/2018 at 23:59

              Wow didn't even know u could do that, cheers man!

    Whatyasmokin · 17/04/2018 at 21:08

    Theres good reasons for these trades with injuries so id do them.

      Derek · 17/04/2018 at 21:53

      I’d hold Venables until we know how long he is out. He hasn’t made enough cash and he is good for forward line loophole

        hedski · 17/04/2018 at 21:58

        They are saying same as Ryan, 10-12 weeks, punt him.

          Derek · 17/04/2018 at 22:20

          I hadn’t heard that

luu · 17/04/2018 at 20:52

Hey beautiful people, have 26 trades left with 100k in the bank. thinking of getting rid of either Hibberd or Billings. Should I:

1. Trade Billings for Franklin or Gray
2. Trade Hibberd for Hurley or Yeo
3. Hold


    KSinny · 17/04/2018 at 20:59

    Hold Billings and see how Hibberd goes this week with Lewis out.

    Whatyasmokin · 17/04/2018 at 21:07

    I would consider Billings out tough run for saints coming up. Its now or never he will come good at some stage.

    Neverweaken · 17/04/2018 at 21:13

    Aim for Hurley and Franklin at some point.

TommyC99 · 17/04/2018 at 21:19

Trade Kruez – Nic Nat
Kruez – Grundy AND Ryan – Mirra/Guelfi (via keeffe, lose def/fwd swing with sicily, both will be fwd)

Have 26 trades left heading into this week

    Sana · 18/04/2018 at 10:58

    I have the same dilemma Tommy. Nic Nat could really go big if he gets more game time, but is serviceable anyway. But the injury history worries me. Think I'll take Grundy if I can. Blokes dominating.

DEE · 17/04/2018 at 21:39

why trade out Kreuzer?

    TommyC99 · 17/04/2018 at 21:46

    Because he's averaging 73 and looks injured

    Scouser · 19/04/2018 at 00:15

    Why would you keep him? What are you seeing Dee as can't see any benefit holding him atm?

DEE · 17/04/2018 at 21:53

I need a good forward rookie that's on the bubble and has a good JS, any suggestions please?

    DEE · 17/04/2018 at 21:58

    FWD or MID rookie suggestions?

    seen_burns · 17/04/2018 at 22:00

    Need to wait a week on Guelfi from Essendon he looks promising, Coffield who is mid/def on the bubble, and Willie Rioli (fwd) who looks like he is going to score better with Liam Ryan out

      Derek · 17/04/2018 at 22:19

      G-Langdon might be back this weekI

    Finnius · 17/04/2018 at 22:39

    Zach giles langdon may be back this week if you don't have him.

HadAGutfuk · 17/04/2018 at 22:52

Jack Billings makes me want to cut my own leg off at the femur. Thank you.

DavidSA · 18/04/2018 at 00:21

Lek you just Billings averages 101 in wins and 85 in loses……
Saints look terrible this year and he is playing terrible also
He has to go

Flaccid Jaff · 18/04/2018 at 01:50

Does anyone have the scoop on Dean Kent?
Role change or a flukey couple of weeks?
Not expecting him to be a keeper but could be a handy step up to a keeper with better js and scoring potential than any rookie coming up.

Also, get rid of cox or brayshaw? And will coffield stay in the side?

Tommo · 18/04/2018 at 08:48

I’m have a shocker of a start to the year
I’ve never been close to winning it all but this year has been horrible

I need some advice on what to do with my team this week
I’m think I should get Coffield in but I want to do a double downgrade but there is no one else o tree to

Def: Laird Simpson Hurley Finlayson Murray Doedee (Naughton O’Connor)
Mid: Danger Fyfe Kelly Bont OMeara Kelly Holman Brayshaw (Dow LDU Clark)
Ruc: Gawn NicNat (Cameron)
Fwd: Buddy Heeney Lynch Petracca Christensen Henry (Garlett Fritsch)

28 trades and 240k left

    Derek · 18/04/2018 at 09:36

    i think you might have started a few too many of the expensive rookies. I count at least 5. They haven’t really worked out. And now you are going to get another one?!

    Time to get a big M6

      Tommo · 18/04/2018 at 10:36

      Yep ok sounds good
      I like it

Adam · 18/04/2018 at 09:36

I’ve got 290k in the bank
If Armitage is not named do I flog him for a 550k and under mid of swing fwd to fill my fwd line ?

    DavidSA · 18/04/2018 at 11:03

    Don't think he is going to make much cash even if he comes back this week and the next
    Move him on and get some one like McLean, R.Gray or Cogniglio if you don't have him yet.

      Adam · 18/04/2018 at 12:18

      Was lookn at gray or McLean already have coniglio

    Jacob · 18/04/2018 at 11:50

    armitage to O'meara 340k in the bank

      Adam · 18/04/2018 at 12:20

      This is also a possibility looking like he’s getting hungry for the ball again, but is he a keeper ?

    Scouser · 19/04/2018 at 00:23

    Yeah if he's not named Adam but he was outstanding in VFL at the weekend so would be surprised if he's not named this week and thrown in the guts.

BloodyFranklin · 18/04/2018 at 09:43

"I battle myself every night and sometimes during the day aswell"

That's a top shelf zinger right there! Absolutely lost my shit. Cheers again for the podcast lads. Gold.

NoLanguage · 18/04/2018 at 10:14

Hi guys,

Currently ranked 1961 with 27 trades left and $78k. Pretty happy with the start but would love some advice to maintain the rage.

B – Laird, Hibberd, Savage, Finlayson, Doedee, Murray (Naughton, Richards)
M – Mitch, Dusty, Fyfe, Parker, Cogs, Cripps, Kelly, Holman (Banfield, LDU, Barry)
R – Martin, Gawn (Cameron)
F – Heeney, Walters, Smith, Sicily, Christensen, Fritsch (Venables, Henry)

Biggest issue like most is on the rookie front. Thinking of these options:

A – Culling LDU or Barry for Coffield this week or Mirra next week?
B – Culling Venables for Guelfi next week?
C – Holding

Any help is hugely appreciated as always ๐Ÿ™‚

    Tyruddanaut · 18/04/2018 at 17:39

    LDU for Coffield. Barry has a higher chance of making you cash and can be a loophole for your mids.

    Mirra has only played one game in a thrashing, usually winning teams scores are higher.

    I say A and B

    Lazza · 18/04/2018 at 19:11

    Really like your team NoL … well done.. I’d hold for 1 more week and look to bring Mirra in next week.. if he does well this week he will likely hold his spot until Birchall returns. He will give you a better return than Coffield.
    Trading LDU to gain $30k is a wasted trade. At least Mirra will give you a cash grab of $100k+. Trading Barry will give you a negative return.
    Option C this week.

    Marty · 18/04/2018 at 22:31

    Great start. Definitely A and either Guelfi or Higgins if he gets back in the team soon.

      NoLanguage · 18/04/2018 at 23:52

      Cheers guys ๐Ÿ™‚ Really liked the look of Guelfi last week and Mirra looks like his JS might be ok for a few, particularly with Hawthorn's injuries. Leaning towards holding but that will no doubt fluctuate over the next 48 hours when teams are up!

DavidSA · 18/04/2018 at 11:00

1) hotdog
2) hamburger
3) Pizza

Which one should I have on Sunday, Tuesday and Wednesday?

    Derek · 18/04/2018 at 11:30

    you need to keep your strength up this week. Footy round doesn't finish until next wednesday. keep well hydrated as well.

      DavidSA · 18/04/2018 at 12:12

      Watermelon and honey fruit drinks in fridge ๐Ÿ™‚

ROBOCOP14 · 18/04/2018 at 12:43

I have Beams and Sloane and they are both killing my scores each week!! Hold or trade out asap?

    Cam_H · 18/04/2018 at 14:02


    For what it's worth, I've had coin from trading down David Armitage to a rookie last week, so could go Rory Sloane up to Dustin Martin this week. I think Sloane's been forced to play with a stuffed ankle since Round 2 due to the Crows' ever-mounting injury list, and runs the risk of either being soon rested for two weeks, or continue to secure only a moderate number of handballs and no kicks again (like vs. Collingwood) which will drive down his value and scores further. I hate sideways trading, but he does not look in great shape right now.

    Best of luck with whatever you decide.

    Tyruddanaut · 18/04/2018 at 17:37

    I can’t tell you on Sloane, but hold Beams. His matchups gradually get better

    r_calve · 18/04/2018 at 18:06

    beams got best on ground the lats two tims he played gold coast so back him in

Blueprime · 18/04/2018 at 13:44

Hold. Back em in.

Sean · 18/04/2018 at 14:16

I have 383K and 28 trades. I think its time to flick Bonner. I've also got a couple non playing rookies. Should i keep or get playing rookies in for them? I would like to have a non playing midfield rookie for loophole purposes but my only non playing rookie is Brodie. At 187,000 he expensive to have on the bench but would hate to waste a trade to get someone else in. Thoughts or recommendations?

B – Laird, Bonner, Finlayson, Doedee, Murray, Coffield (Naughton, Richards)
M – Danger, Dusty, Fyfe, Selwood, Coniglio, Cripps, Kelly, Holman (Banfield, Brodie, Brayshaw)
F – Buddy, Greene, McLean, Smith, Christensen, Fritsch (D.Fogarty, Keefe)
R-Gawn, Nank (Cameron)

    Tyruddanaut · 18/04/2018 at 17:36

    Hold Bonner. He can easily reach his BE. If that Brayshaw is West Coast, then trade Brodie out.
    If Brayshaw is Andrew from Freo, he should be first priority. I’d say trade him to Mirra or Guelfi and use the DPP which is much loved.

    Marty · 18/04/2018 at 22:42

    Bonner has some upside still but with that warchest I would be tempted to go Bonner to Hurley. You need a solid D2 premo.

KingWinter7 · 18/04/2018 at 14:27

Kreuzer to Grundy or Nic Nat ???
Cash not as much the problem just want the highest scores from now onwards

    cburgz · 18/04/2018 at 16:28

    130k difference between the two, if nic nats tog increases and stays fit I see them scoring fairly similar.
    this week grundy should score really well (anzac day against bellchambers) and west coast should win against carlton this week vsing an injured kreuz so they will probably keep his tog similar to the previous weeks. (freo next week though so they could up his tog from then onwards).
    I already have english as my r3 so worst case he can cover nic nat if he is rested a week or if he gets injured for an extended time I can downgrade english to olango then nic nat up to whichever ruck is doing the best. I think the extra 130k bank will help a lot with upgrades in the coming weeks. Grundy is really tempting as he is on fire atm but can he maintain it?

Dominic Haley · 18/04/2018 at 15:08

Thoughts on LDU down to Coffield? Would only be generating around 30k but LDU has a breakeven of 60… not much faith in him to get anywhere near that.

    Tyruddanaut · 18/04/2018 at 17:33

    That’s pretty much what I’m doing with Brayshaw. Even if you don’t get the cash gen now, if he gains more than a cheap rookie, he will be more worth it

    Lazza · 18/04/2018 at 19:13

    See my comment to NoL above..

    NoLanguage · 19/04/2018 at 00:06

    Yeah same predicament Dom. At this stage I'm holding and thinking of banking the 100k+ to Mirra the week after.
    He did get a 77 two weeks ago and will continue to be played in the guts so could easily hit his BE at Etihad on Sunday too!

      Dominic Haley · 19/04/2018 at 07:54

      Sounds like it's worth saving the trade, only issue is I have Mirra already so would need another cheap rookie to swap down to if he gets another average score (doesn't like there's too many options, either).

Warblegarble · 18/04/2018 at 16:34

26 trades | $361,600 salary

DEF – Laird, Hibberd, Sicily, Bonner, Finlayson, Murray (Doedee, Murphy)
MID – Dangerfield, Martin, Macrae, Fyfe, Cripps, Kelly, Holman, Banfield (Brayshaw, Dow, Barry)
RUC – Gawn, Naitanui (Olango)
FWD – Heeney, McLean, Billings, Petracca, Fritsch, Henry (Keeffe, Giles-Langdon)

– Hibberd/Billings. If I have to trade one, who should it be? Right now, I'm leaning Billings.
– Disappointed in Brayshaw/Dow, and thinking of upgrading to maybe a Coniglio or a Parker. Good idea?

Of course, any other advice is appreciated!

    cburgz · 18/04/2018 at 16:56

    you could do billings to coffield (swing sicily fwd) and brayshaw to mitchell (giving you the big three)
    then next week dow to mirra(swing coff mid) or guelfi then bonner to a premo back or fwd

    Tyruddanaut · 18/04/2018 at 17:32

    I’d l an Billings too, especially with Jordan Lewis our meaning that Hibberd will take more kickins

John · 18/04/2018 at 17:13

Should I trade Kelly to Macrae or hold?

    r_calve · 18/04/2018 at 18:04

    hold if you have good bench cover but if it says he is out for like 5 weeks the trade to macrae or oliver

      John · 18/04/2018 at 18:45

      I have banfield, Brayshaw and dom Barry on my bench so I guess I’ll just wait and see if Kelly is out for a prolonged period of time

Tyruddanaut · 18/04/2018 at 17:31


I have fallen short with my premium selections this year. Hibberd, Billings, Zorko, Danger all underperforming. Lobb scoring just enough to be worth it. But with him on the bench for one more week, is it time to trade?

Lobb only trained for 20min today and is quoted more unlikely than likely to play. I held him last week in hope that he comes up against Marshall and pulls a 120. Now, he is on the pine again!

The issue is that if I do trade him out, there is little I can do with him. If I get Guelfi in for Brayshaw , then I can bring in E. Curnow, but then deal with inconsistency.

What do I do, community?

    joe · 20/04/2018 at 11:11

    lobb to taranto

TOPHAWK1 · 18/04/2018 at 19:12

All my rooks have attainable BE's this week with ZGL coming back very soon and Murphy hopefully getting a recall.

Is it worth passing on Coffield and target Mirra and Guelfi next week when Bonner and Brayshaw will likely completely max out on their cash generation? Or is Coffield a must get now for Brayshaw and why? I am tempted to hang on to my 28 trades so I can trade my A-RSE off during the byes and thereafter to come home hard at the back end of the season. Thoughts?

P.S This scenario is based on there being no major rookie omissions on Thursday.

    Russty_ · 18/04/2018 at 21:12

    I answered you in the other thread..spammer..lol

Ryan · 18/04/2018 at 20:39

Bring in Sidebottom? Feel he is underpricedand could be a top 8 mid this year.

Hawks · 18/04/2018 at 21:25

Any thoughts on Dean Kent, I watched the Melb/Haw game, and couldn't believe how much of the ball he was getting.

He is mid priced, but the opposite to Hibberd, his role has changed for the better, and his scoring has too.

Appreciate your thoughts.

    Russty_ · 18/04/2018 at 21:42

    Hey Hawks, he's looked good for two games but could easily be your classic, Matera/ Fiorini /preseason Redden burnman..I'd avoid.

    Mike c · 18/04/2018 at 23:00

    At the risk of agreeing simply because I've done the same….
    He seems to have a new role closer to the action, and all he needs is another 2-3 weeks at this rate of 100+ to generate a quick 100k and make him a stepping strone to a fallen preso Billings etx, I'm backing him to do it for 3 weeks

      Mike c · 18/04/2018 at 23:01

      Stepping stone even ๐Ÿ˜‚

    Flaccid Jaff · 18/04/2018 at 23:10

    I'm thinking bout him mate.
    Better js and scoring potential than any rookie and if he falls down to 80 he's still gonna make 130k

Marty · 18/04/2018 at 22:50

Coffield should be worth it but he doesn't suit my structure which seems similar to yours.

Locked and Loaded · 19/04/2018 at 00:43

Brayshaw —> Coffield
Goldy —> Grundy (guy is a must have)

gives DPP ability with Finlayson

Thoughts gents?

    Goat · 19/04/2018 at 00:57

    Not sure you need to trade Brayshaw.

Goat · 19/04/2018 at 00:49

Coffield or O’Meara?

    finn · 19/04/2018 at 09:52

    O'meara is a gun and scores well but coffield will generate cash up to u

      Derek · 19/04/2018 at 11:14

      how can you compare them. Big price diff

meph · 19/04/2018 at 08:19

Am I too late to jump on Crowden? Still a decent negative BE. I have both LDU and Brayshaw who probably wont make there BEs, not sure if Coffield is the best financial choice.

Blakes A team · 19/04/2018 at 09:44

R laird
M hurley
R Bonner
T doedee
J finlayson
S Murray

Bench: L Murphy, A Morgan

T Mich
S coniglio
T Taranto
T kelly
N Holman

Bench: A Brayshaw, L Davies-uniacke, D Barry

M Gawn
N naitnui

Bench: T english

I Heeney
J Billings
D Smith
C petracca
T Mclean
B Fritsch

Bench: C Rayner
D Fogarty

Any suggestions, i want to try to get Macrae or gibbs, posible hogan for billings

Id like to know what u think and what u would do

    finn · 19/04/2018 at 09:47


    Blakes A team · 19/04/2018 at 09:51

    I have 25 trades should i not trade this week or fix my team up a bit

    o'meara is also an option to trade in

    Derek · 19/04/2018 at 11:10

    How much cash do you have.

    I’d be swinging Taranto to forwards and Rayner to miss and then look at upgrading Rayner. Depends on your cash

      finn · 19/04/2018 at 12:33

      not much 42k

    Marty · 19/04/2018 at 19:45

    Hold. Don't trade too much because when injuries hit you will need them.

ROBocop14 · 19/04/2018 at 10:03

Paul Seedsman… Thoughts?

    Blakes A team · 19/04/2018 at 12:32

    yes he would be good

    do i swap him for bonner?

      finn · 19/04/2018 at 12:33

      if i have him

    Marty · 19/04/2018 at 19:52

    He is getting plenty of the pill but scoring wise had 11 clangers last week so not using the pill well. Will Seedsman score well when the Crouch brothers return?

Jai · 20/04/2018 at 08:09

Thoughts on
Goldy to Grundy
Kelly to Macrae

nankthetank · 20/04/2018 at 10:40

Hey community, thoughts on going Hibberd to Heeney made possible with a couple of DPP swings? I can get any player if I trade Hibberd but Heeney seems to be the best option in my opinion, am I missing someone who would be better?

JugHead · 20/04/2018 at 13:25

Strongly believe this is the week that you bring in cogs, mclean, gray types to fix problems in your team rather than rookies and mid pricers. Good value rookies will be coming on the bubble in the next few weeks and its hard to paint the fence properly and dig out spuds at the same time

    TheBenchmark25 · 22/04/2018 at 07:40

    Pretty simple to paint the fence in my opinion. Just down grade a spud and upgrade another spud.
    I'd da it's the perfect week to holdddd as everyone will be trading. It's a pod to hold this week as trades a gold.

Pauly · 20/04/2018 at 16:38

Jom or parfit

    Russty_ · 20/04/2018 at 17:46

    Reckon Jaeger has got more runs on the board and could become a premo if he stays fit.

finn · 20/04/2018 at 17:52

Billings ($451,900)
Coffield ($171,300)
Rayner ($230,300)
Hogan ($485,700)

    Russty_ · 20/04/2018 at 18:24

    Probably keep both I'd say, Billings has already bled too much cash and Rayner will make you money and scored 97 last week, maybe save your trades and see how you go this week.

Russty_ · 24/04/2018 at 00:45

Just wanted to change the post number from 354 to 355…that is all.

jason · 24/04/2018 at 17:28

heppel for luke parker who wins? draft league

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