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HEROES, VILLAINS AND THE DAMNED

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Some weekends remind us why we love Supercoach. This was not one of those weekends. This was one of those weekends which result in us shouting at our sides. So, without any further ado, let’s begin shouting.

The Heroes

Second-year Cat Brandon Parfitt (169 SC) was brilliant in Geelong’s big win over St Kilda, gathering 28 disposals and kicking three goals on the way to the biggest SuperCoach score of his career. North Melbourne spearhead Ben Brown (167 SC) had a day out for the Roos down in Tassie, slotting five majors on his way to best-on-ground honours.

Brownlow medallist Dustin Martin (141 SC) only had 17 disposals for the Tigers but booted six goals straight to reward those who had the VC on him. Power mid/forward Robbie Gray (145 SC) has shot back into back into SC relevance after playing a primarily midfield role, gathering 39 disposals and 10 clearances.  Melbourne ball-magnet Clayton Oliver (128 SC) had another good game despite his side’s poor outing, with 23 out of his 28 touches being contest possessions.

Collingwood shocked the Crows on Friday night on the back of ruck colossus Brodie Grundy (141 SC). He had 34 disposals, 40 hit outs, 23 contested possessions and 12 clearances to absolutely monster the respected Sauce Jacobs. Teammate Steele Sidebottom (138 SC) was irresistible in the middle with 43 possessions, 27 of them contested, seven tackles and 12 clearances. Champion defender Rory Laird (129 SC) was Adelaide’s best with 37 touches.

Other significant scores: Luke Bruest (142 SC), Aaron Sandilands (139 SC), Jack Ziebell (132 SC), David Swallow (129 SC), Shaun Atley (128 SC), Ed Curnow (126 SC), Matt Suckling (123 SC), Liam Shiels (123 SC), Trent Cotchin (122 SC), Shaun Higgens (122 SC), Jeremy McGovern (121 SC), David Meyers (121 SC), Adam Treloar (120 SC), Luke Dustan (120 SC), Isaac Heeney (120SC).

The Villains

Popular Demons pair Michael Hibberd (78 SC) and Christian Petracca (69 SC) were amongst many Melbourne players that failed to live up expectations on Sunday. Hibberd’s role seems to have changed and the fact he’s no longer taking kick-ins for Melbourne should be of serious concern to his owners. Petracca, like many of his teammates, failed to have an impact as the Hawks ran riot.

Patrick Dangerfield (103SC) tonned up, but only just. Against the Saints at home many of us had the C on him, and 103 doesn’t cut it considering we held the most expensive bloke on the bench for a week only for him to dish up this. Tom Mitchell (90SC) was well held by the Dees in another frustrating captaincy selection.

Defensive trio Kade Simpson (79 SC), Heath Shaw (75 SC) and Luke Ryan (51 SC) were all below their best. Simpson has been outstanding to start 2018 and was due for a quiet game, while Shaw has revealed his true colours after starting the season with back-to-back tons.

Forward options Michael Waters (72 SC) and Jack Billings (65 SC) were both highly underwhelming, with Billings producing his second mediocre score in a row. North ruck Todd Goldstein (76 SC) doesn’t look like returning to the glory days of old at this stage, while Sydney midfield pair Josh Kennedy (46 SC) and Dan Hannebery (67 SC) seem to have lost their mojo.

The Redeemers

We haven’t seen a more complete Redeemer game than what Elliott Yeo (150 SC) produced on Saturday night. Yeo had an absolute stinker last week playing off half back, sitting on 0 SC points at three-quarter-time and finishing with 27 for the match. On Saturday he played exclusively in the midfield and tallied 33 disposals and 11 marks to finish with an epic score. His owners will be hoping this sort of form can continue.

Jaeger O’Meara (145 SC) has burnt his owners plenty of times but those who stuck fat this year are now reaping the rewards. He played arguably his best game for the Hawks and looked a million dollars in the Brown and Gold’s midfield.

Sam Menegola (129 SC) continued his bi-polar start to 2018. After producing terrible scores from his opening two matches – forcing many owners to trade him out – the absence of Gary Ablett seems to have benefited the mature-ager significantly. He’s now posted two 120+ scores on the trot.

GWS youngster Tim Taranto (116 SC) burned a lot of owners that traded him in last week but he rebounded in fine fashion on Saturday with 11 tackles and 21 possessions. Teammate Brett Deledio (115 SC) also looms a viable option if he can continue this sort of form. He finished with 28 possessions.

Essendon pair Michal Hurley (117 SC) and Zach Merrett (107 SC) were both standouts for the Bombers and rebounded are quiet starts to 2018, as did Richmond’s Kane Lambert (119 SC). Brisbane forward Allen Christensen (97 SC) rewarded his owners with another solid score and looks an excellent value buy this season.

The Prodigies

Magpies forward Jaidyn Stephenson (107 SC) dazzled with five goals, while Geelong pair Tim Kelly (89 SC) and Lachlan Fogarty (80 SC) again scored well. Popular defensive rookies Jeremy Finlayson (101 SC) and Sam Murray (92 SC) provided their owners with reassurance they can be started safely on the field, however the same cannot be said for Crows defender Tom Doedee (57 SC).

Saints bubble boy Nick Coffield (80 SC) looked at home despite his team’s poor performance, while Essendon first-gamer Matt Guelfi (71 SC) looms as a must-have next week if he can repeat his opening heroics. The same goes for Hawthorn mature-age defender David Mirra (77 SC), who looked completely at home in his first match ay AFL level.

Freo duo Bailey Banfield (69 SC) and Mitch Crowden (61 SC) were solid against GWS, while Bulldogs trio Tim English (78 SC), Aaron Naughton (78 SC) and Ed Richards (67 SC) also banked respectable scores. Forwards Jarrod Garlett (71 SC) and Jake Waterman (61 SC) found plenty of the ball.

Other rookie scores: Esava Ratugolea (60 SC), Bailey Fritsch (58 SC), Willie Rioli (48 SC), Billy Gowers (48 SC), Jack Henry (46 SC), Lochie O’Brien (46 SC), Cam O’Shea (45 SC), Darcy Fogarty (44 SC), Andrew Brayshaw (42 SC), Paddy Dowe (41 SC), Luke Davies-Uniacke (37 SC), Adam Cerra (34 SC), Zac Bailey (15 SC).

The Damned

Wounded Crow Rory Sloane (59 SC) only 16 possessions and was hobbling for most of Friday night with a foot injury.  Hid body just doesn’t seem right at this point so a sideways trade should be considered. Forward Cyril Rioli (41 SC) did a medial ligament in his knee in the second quarter of Hawthorn’s win and didn’t return. Keep an eye on his prognoses during the week.

Rookies Daniel Venebles (61 SC) and Nick Holman (31 SC) may need to be traded out, with Venebles appearing to suffer a shin injury while Holman had a match he would rather forget and does not look like generating a huge amount of cash in the coming weeks. Riley Bonner (60 SC) has also stalled in scoring, with his cash generation also slowing down dramatically.

Who are you screaming at this week, community? How did you score? Who are you trading?

 

 

 

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Harry

Billings >:(

Hayden

Traded him to Hogan, a risky move but I couldn't put up with him anymore.

AlbertonOval

He's stinking up my team presently. He needs to go ASAP

Krups

Do we look at trading billings or goldy?

Steeeve

I'm holding Goldy. Fair chance whoever I bring in will spud it up. Just hope he throws a few tons out there. He was terrible last year and still averaged 90 odd.

PerthPies

Well done, Parfitt. Got to love it when an opponent has a bloke like Parfitt in his team, who is projected to score 70 and actually scores nearly 100 than that to beat you by 30. He will never get near this score again in his career. Oh well, better now than a final….

Gees

That's terrible luck, who the hell picks Parfitt?!

AlbertonOval

That's a kick in the spuds, I bet you thought you were home and hosed

joe

Oh, he'll get close to that score again. That was only his nineteenth game. This year, he's already scored 104 and 92.

theRealPod

Agree joe, he looked really good and is definitely on the radar.

Scouser

Agreed, going to be a gun Parfitt, gutted I choose Taranto over him 2 weeks ago!

Troy

Why gutted? Taranto has tonned up in 3 out of 4 matches

Earl

G’day Community,

What do I do with Billings and Hibberd?

Looking at possibly Billings to a McLean or Greene?
And with Hibberd looking like he’d rather the ball roll over the line than actually pick it up I’d take any opinions on who to take instead of him.

Cheers guys

r_calve

wait another week for merrett to bottom out

David C

I'm looking at Hibberd to Danger next week.

Scouser

McLean a safer option atm Earl, running through the guts and involved in the thick if it, teammates always looking for him also so he's a key COG in Bevis midfield plan this year. Greene is sublimely talented but just too untrustworthy for a full season of SC for mine, prime candidate for finals time though!

Dylan

The rate that Kreuzer and Hibberd are going at, my patience is wearing very thin. Surely Kreuz to Grundy and Hibberd to Yeo or Ryan are sensible trades.

Bingobangojingojango

Doing the same thing. They have stained the pant too many times now

BadgerHoney7

Bonner, average after first round.

seen_burns

3 round avg of 68…

David C

Yeh, he got hyped up too much, just an expensive rookie. Plus Pittard was good in the magoos. Glad I didn't get sucked in.

Sc_Wow

Fine if you started him, won’t cost to much to go upto Yeo next week

BadgerHoney7

Thank god I stuck fat with JOM, and started with Nic Nat. Two great mid pricers going well.

Superspuds

Fisher to Mclean and Steven to Dusty should fix a couple of holes for me but I still have Hibberd and Bont

Marty

Yes I'm very happy i started with O'Meara but I shouldn't speak too soon; the Supercoach Gods are always listening.

Whatyasmokin

JOM was such a gun, slight burns last year starting with him, and I said last year id go through it all again just for the chance he came good. People probably thought I was nuts, hopefully it pays off all year.

r_calve

do billings and zorko have to go

joe

Gotta hold Billings because he's doing exactly what we expected of him. Last year he had three games scoring in the 50s but still ended up with an average of 92 and was (from memory) a top 10 forward.

David C

Billings might come good, I'm sitting on him until the byes and will trade him then if he hasn't improved. Zorko on the other hand has lost his magic wand. Beams is not firing and Rocky is gone. The opposition are going to target Zorko. If I had him I'd be moving him on.

Sc_Wow

I wouldn’t mind bringing in a 400k billings

Steeeve

Worked out well for many last year

Scouser

For sure, never convinced to start him this year though, v.few KPF actually worth the punt in SC, Buddy and JJ the current exceptions. He'll come good it's just a question of when and how consistent he can be.

r_calve

and what forwards and mids should i trade in

Steeeve

Just hold them mate

The stare

The good ones

JamBak

Thoughts on Bonner & fisher to Merrett and Mirra?

r_calve

wait another week for merrett to bottom out

Steeeve

And for Mirra to be on the bubble.

yaboyazza

Kreuz and Billings absolutely killing me,
Option 1: Hold both
Option 2: Kreuz > Grundy, Billings > promising looking fwd (taranto/deledio?)
Option 3: Kreuz > Nic Nat, Billings > more expensive fwd (walters?)
Thought anyone?

Sana

I'm in the same boat Yabo

Very tempted to omit both. Community thoughts on this would be much appreciated. I have a little bit of dosh so might look at Sicily too…

Steeeve

Holman really looked the goods. What a shame. I love the look of Coffield but will wait a week and squeeze an extra drop out of Bonner/Brayshaw/Holman. Then pounce on Mirra and maybe Guelfi. Hoping at least one of the three puts up a big score so I know who to keep for longer.

Gees

I think coffield is worth the trade this week

Steeeve

Could be. That elevated price is scaring me off.

Demons 5th 4 2018

If you haven't used many trades YES he is. If you have already burnt 4-5 trades probably wait until next weeks bubble boys.

Whatyasmokin

Holmans be is only 25……….Im holding for sure unless injured.

Sixty6

Good job SC_Wow. Research pays off! 610 overall rank mate!

My 2205 got me into 3k. Will only climb!

Gees

Can everyone trade on the app? The trade section doesn't work/hasn't synced although everything else has.

Gees

Blake Acres is definitely peaking my interest

theRealPod

Don't do it.

Sabsy

He's piquing my interest. But my interest hasn't yet peaked.

Andrew

Heeney, Smith, Tracca, Taranto, Stephenson, Garlett (Fritsch, Henry)
Am I too short in the fwd line have 275k in the kitty but the cows haven’t fattened enough

Derek

They are all quite short, but don’t think you need to worry about their heights for SuperCoach.

BlueBaggerJosh

Is it worth going early on Mirra if by trading him in for Bonner it allows me to upgrade a failed midpricer in fwd to a premo and in 1-2 weeks Holman to merrett?

flex350

Think you need to wait on Merrett, see if he can string two games together.

Troy

Merrett is a proven premium mid. He'll ton up for the rest of the year

Coxy

I have 28 trades left and 150K,
Is that money worth using to sideways trade nank to Grundy? It seems like his form will stay this way and he's a must have ruckman.

Scouser

Done the exact trade this week Coxy, Nanks history shows he is around the 100 mark, this year's elite ruckmen are stepping it up so a trade to Grundy looks ideal atm IMO. Cox not really impacting him and he looks in top form.

theRealPod

Bit harsh Danger in villians

Hayden

Backline: Laird, Hibberd, Bonner, Finlayson, Doedee, Murray. Bench: Murphy, Naughton.

Should I trade Hibberd to somebody like Witherden or down to a rookie such as Mirra/Coffield? Haven't got spare cash to upgrade beyond $481k.

David C

I think you'd be better off trading Bonner down to Mirra next week (assuming he plays and does well). This raises the cash to take Hibberd up if he is still spudding it.

Whatyasmokin

Agree

Jim

What price would you say Coffield is going to reach if he maintains his current form? I'm thinking holding Barry for a downgrade to Mirra or Guelfi might be better than Coffield.

Mick

I would love your thoughts community.
Jack Macrae/Coffield 13k in bank
Or
Robbie gray/Mirra 150k in bank
Trading out Billings n fisher.

theRealPod

Mirra looks good but I'm waiting another week. I think Billings will come good.

Derek

Mirra did real good. I think he might get a few games now.

His score on weekend was inflated as Frawley was Sick.

theRealPod

Solid player doesn't panic under pressure. The Hawks turned it on for your trip over, they're looking good.

Yap

Got 193k in the kitty, but got Hibberd, Billings and Brayshaw. Could easily go both Hibberd and Billings up to say McLean and Hurley, or I could trade one and go Brayshaw to Coffield? Or I could even leave Brayshaw and go Dom Barry to Coffield? Thoughts?

Whatyasmokin

Not a big fan of these sideways moves. If Barry isnt named then trade him to Coffield.

StevoRivo

Is Hibberd a must trade now? Not injured but looks like averaging 85/90 at best. Have 28 trades & $195k.

Can’t see any breakout defenders either. Have Laird and the rookies doing ok for now. Do I hold another week or so and wait for the rooks to fatten up more?

David C

yeh the problem is there are no other reliable defenders after Laird. Might as well hold Hibberd until the best option presents itself. Or take a gamble on someone like Sicily or Savage or Hurley.

Brad

Hurley as reliable as they come

Sc_Wow

Now moved to 610 over all.
It was a tough week for everyone and now I see lots of people proposing sideways trades. Remember billings scored a 130 a few weeks ago, the aim of the game is it buy low sell high. Trading a billings to a McLean or gray is really going to slow you down with other upgrades. Sticking with Hibberd for now, upgrade the rest of my team, see who the must have defenders are.

Crowboy94

So if I could go Brayshaw down to another rookie and upgrade Doedee to a premo DEF leaving me with still 100k in the bank would you?

Sc_Wow

Yeah something like that is ok although dodee still has money to make.
I just wouldn’t use my war chest on a sideways trade

Mick

Do you think trade fisher to Kent is a side ways trade as well? Or fisher down to a rookie n free up money?

Sc_Wow

Fisher to Kent is as sideways as it gets. Fisher to rookie or premo

Mick

I can swap fisher to jom or a taranto?

Ja191

Still sideways Mick, more like fisher to guelfi in a week or to heeney/mclean

Mick

Thanks mate. Probably bring Sicily down from the defence n bring in Coffield. On the bubble n looks like he will have the best job security.

Scouser

Mirra will save you 80k if you can wait a week and run the risk he actually delivers this week, signs are good though

theRealPod

Nice rank keep it going. Agree with your post no need to panic, stick fat and look for fallen premium bargains.

Derek

Great advice Wow

Even if you are upgrading a Lobb or someone else, don’t automatically go for McLean or Gray. They are too expensive now. Look for value elsewhere.

Make your own decisions.

Think about Jocks’s vacuum of opportunity

Cyril and Poppy going down at Hawthorn. What opportunities does that present?

BrownlowBoy

Gives Tom Mitchell more chance to kick snags?

Ricardo

Agreed. Billings had it 23 times yesterday, just couldn't hit a target and kicked a couple of behinds. Once he hits a few more targets those 60s become 80s or 90s.

Holty01

Nice. I am sitting at 283…………………7………………..9
My inability to hit the vc has hurt. Havent been able to use 1 vc score to date

Sc_Wow

Yeah my vc has only been used rd1 rest of the side is solid

Marty

Awesome rank Holty.

belly button fluff

Hey Wow nice ranking well done. Considering my team is doing shit for some reason (weird because I thought it the best in a long time), can I at least say I told you so when it came to Danger and him not scoring more than his average against STK. Just so I can tell the grand-kiddies I told the great Wow he was making a bad choice. ;P
Just stirrin ya. You've got me everywhere else I reckon. 😀
Nice work!

Sc_Wow

Yep be sure to tell them that mate. I’m backing the big danger in again though. Carn danger

belly button fluff

I think I may join you this week which means I am getting him a week earlier than I was planning, but I think I will feel a lot better with him. Every time he touches the ball for the first in a game lately, I do a little poo in my pants. I think this is the week in Adelaide he scores well, provided it is sunny.

Russty_

well done wow with the rank, hope you can challenge the big prize this year, it'd be great for one of the JR community to win it, it would automatically make you a God 🙂

Crazy eyes

ohhhhh slurp slurp slurp, you are all bum chums after your bans

Russty_

Hi Crazy Eyes, we were already bum chums before that mate, I can recognize someone who contributes something good to the community from someone like you, who really doesn't, good luck with your trolling, it won't last long.

Bill

thats a big sentence for someone with all those balls in his mouth, mmm 66 your fab deary

Russty_

Hi Bill, I make a mean Turkey meatball dish mate, I use a shitload of garlic, onions, chilli, my own home grown Tomatoes in the sauce, to die for!… you should come over for dinner sometime, I'm a pretty good cook.

Russty_

P.S I make my own hand rolled pasta too…Belisimo!

Kim

Are you worried that Ebert will tag danger sc_wow? Very risky captain this week, like tmitch this week also Jacobs odds on to tag him. No way I'd captain either of them this week. Dusty or Fyfe for me.

Russty_

Definitely a risk Kim, but i think if Danger doesn't start knocking out 150's pretty soon, we'll have to consider that maybe he's on the decline.

Sc_Wow

Was ebbert playing when he scored 160 odd last year? Danger is due, he’s got one last chance to prove he’s a reliable C

The Ranger

Do we think Coffield is a must have?
None of my cows are fully fattened but his consistency and DPP is pretty appealing.

neil demons delight

Hi Ranger I don't think he will make as much as Mirra but J S is as good.Most probably end up a good player playing for another club. I am thinking of going Brayshaw to one of them cheers

Swans2012

I think I'll take coffield if Murphy or dom are out again this week, looks like he will make cash

The Ranger

Leaning that way too Swans. Barry prob the one in the sights.
Liked the look of Coffield in the JLT and he looked good again yesterday, he uses it well and Saints don't have many that can do that so you'd think his JS must be ok.
Opens up the swing with Finlayson too.
Of course Barry will prob get a ton if I do it…

theRealPod

No one in Saints a must have.

Whatyasmokin

Only one looking remotely close is Savage

SW Rooster XXX

Just about to quit! I realise the community was right. I had a terrible structure and I have slipped to 31k overall. God help me!

SW Rooster XXX

Well played birdbrain……

All Rook back structure hasn't been the issue at all mate…..

More so underperforming premos and injuries in other lines eg Billings and Kreuzer going like goats…

The Rookie backs are performing fine and are actually amongst the highest scoring rookies so have had no issue with their output what so ever….. If anything have exceeded expectation in terms of output……..

D C

So what's your point? Everyone has those rookies…..where are you gaining in the field of overall seeing as you saved yourself by going shallow in backline?

Looks to me as though you've fallen behind even more this week with your excuses about injuries…..

SW Rooster XXX

My point is everyone has to have a certain amount of rookies on the ground – as it stands the backline rookies save for Kelly in the mid and Holman in the mid (until this week) have been the better performing rookies score wise so have had no issue them all being on the ground…..

Essentially due to Greene being injured (missed 2 games), Billings spudding it up apart from Round1 and Kreuzer missing 1 and a half games and going terrible when he has played I haven't got any benefit out of being more premo heavy in the other lines.

Obvioulsy saving money in the backs enabled greater spending else where eg rucks/forward and under performing premos and injuries in them lines has prevented that benefit coming to fruition…..

So to answer your question I am not using injuries as excuses at all, everyone gets injuries.. Injuries aside just got the Billings and Kreuzer calls wrong – shit happens… Closer to expected output from them 2 and ranking would look a whole lot different…..

Happy to have tried something different it's a game!!! Giving the $$ back rooks are making will be able to start upgrading back 6 relatively quickly and pick off some fallen back premos… have no hurry to do anything in the other lines other than hope Billings & Kreuz come good……. Taranto is at F6 and Kelly & Holman (unitl this week) been serviceable at M7 & M8

Rank will improve steadily I am sure as ranks are still very congested….

Swans2012

Early days rooster, I haven't checked but can't be more than 4-500 points between you and the top 5k. Burn trades if you need to to fix things and ride it for luck at the end of the season

SW Rooster XXX

thx mate…..

No need to burn trades just yet – happy to wait out Kreuze & Billings and hope they come good……. Back rooks still making $$$..
Although Bonner has slowed down and breakeven is creeping up…..

Its early days……

belly button fluff

Last week When i checked there was only 200 points between top 14% and top 2%. Not sure what is happening this week. But it is the most congested I can remember.

Russty_

You should probably quit, cause it's hard to actually win it when you don't actually exist.

Slurper

Slurp

Multi_

Billings will be talked about all week, with that i will trade him to Robbie Gray 50 times this week then press reverse trades.

I already know the outcome if we dont trade him he will drop more than 3 of my rookies will increase in profit and averages 60 odd.

If i do trade him he will come out and average 100 for the rest of the year and Robbie Gray will go down with an ACL injury.

As a business idea: Supercoach therapy could become a thing

Derek

I’m expecting many questions this week regards trading Billings out.

I expect Saints can’t get any worse, and hopefully improve, especially as season gets going and everyone slows down a bit.

I’m holding him. Forwards are too hard to work out this year, so hold who you have and look at upgrading the rookies.

Gray will be popular, but too expensive. Was and will continue to be a round 11 trade target.

zerowins

I see what your understanding Derek but isnt your advice to buy premiums at 520k and under

Derek

No. I always look to buy premiums cheaper than their starting price.

Neil said something about $520k, but that was referring to the calculation that everyone has to do in order to get their last few premiums in. When you are down to only needed a few more premiums to be at “full premium” you might not have the cash or the cash generation left to get who you want, therefore you need to look for the cheaper options. Neil just mentioned $520k because if people use all their cash now, that might be all they can afford for the final places.

I pick my best team from the start as if money no problem and as those boys drop in price I snap them up.

Sc_Wow

Billing’s in there?

Ken

Why is Michael Barlow playing in the NEAFL? Hes been leading possession getter in both games he has played, would love to get him in the fwd line in SuperCoach…

Derek

He was in my team all preseason. Only took him out because he wasn’t named round 1.

Picked him up In my draft league, wouldn’t mind him getting a game

Rick Grimes

Surely plays this week.

James

What’s everyone doing with Andrew Brayshaw this week? Don’t think he’ll be hitting his be

Whatyasmokin

No rush for me. Hope everyone ditches him and he slow burns to a decent stepping stone. It's happened before it'll happen again!

BloodyFranklin

The footage of Dylan Roberton is absolutely terrifying.

I hope he makes a full recovery.

BrownlowBoy

Similar thing happened in America the other week in a basketball game, poor guy didn't make it unfortunately. Really scary to watch.

BloodyFranklin

That's terrible. It must be horrible to witness and even more devastating to those around him.

… I'd be lying if I said I hope it wasn't Donald Trumpet.

BVB21

I thought an effort was being made to clean up these forums.

No we have politics coming in here and hoping the US President dies.

BloodyFranklin

It's all part of the cleansing bro. 👻

Westy

So glad he is getting through it. Work colleague lost a husband like that when they were walking through a shopping centre – mid 30s – gone, dead when he hit the ground.

(On a lighter note, if there is one, if it had been Matthew Lloyd, community would have been up him staging for a free kick.)

Russty_

Did they only just find out in that game that Roberton had an irregular Heartbeat?…bloody devastating for him and his family, hope he doesn't have to give up Footy.

BloodyFranklin

You'd have to assume so man. I wouldn't think they would risk it had he been previously diagnosed with a potentially fatal CVD or anything like that.

There will be lots of things that need to be taken into consideration from this point forward. The insurance premiums alone could be enough to call it. I wouldn't be surprised if Roberton has to make some drastic decisions regarding his future.

Paul

Disaster weekend, I don't know how I'm going to make any cash with Dow, Brayshaw, Barry and now Holman in the mids, just wish I'd gone Fogarty instead of Dow early on.

To make matters worse Yeo almost hits his BE and doesn't drop anywhere near enough to bring in for Bonner who has been awful since I traded him in.

Shambles, got $90k odd in the bank and 28 trades but no cash to generate!

Whatyasmokin

That's why corrective rookie trades can be necessary and even downgrading failed premos/mid pricers and building a bank to pick off the guns u need is a valid tactic depending on the situation.

Jam

Just wait. The rookies like brayshaw will go up and down, but one good game and they are up again.

John

What do people think about Geary and Kent this year?

Whatyasmokin

Traps.

Sc_Wow

That they are Geary and Kent. Not SC relevant

John

Thanks Sc-Wow and Whatyasmokin

Ahmad rubas

Can people see breakeven on the SuperCoach website? Or is that for gold members only

Hayden

You can find websites to tell you breakevens as well though.

Pranav Santhosh

for some reason i can see the breakevens but im not a gold member am i just lucky or will it go away soon

Jace

Yeh i too am getting gold for free at the moment,re-breakevens etc.
But i was a gold member last year they may still have me listed some how as still having Gold membership.

Sc_Wow

I’d recommend spending the $20

nankthetank

Go to http://www.footywire.com
They have BE's, predicted price rises and plenty of other stats, very useful

Sc_Wow

G’day nank

Lekdog

I like footywire too but Supercoach Gold makes life very easy

zerowins

I have Petracca and Billings. I understand that billings has been underwhelming but so has Petracca. I cant see Petracca scoring any better than what he has been.
Therefore would i be better off trading Petracca over Billings

BockChoy

Petracca is averaging 88.8 so far (up from 78.8 for 2017), so is far from a disaster. Billings is averaging 82.8 (down from 92.7), so is a bigger problem but has already taken the price hit. If you trade him out, you will realise the loss without any chance to make it back. Unless you are in a position to upgrade to a top 6 FWD, you should probably hold.

zerowins

Robbie gray is who i will be getting.

Sc_Wow

Just after his price has jumped up? I’d wait

zerowins

Until when. Reckon he may hover around 550k

Sc_Wow

You’d be trading billings?

zerowins

Or Petracca

Simo

Brayshaw has a BE of 54, with an avg of 49. Thoughts on who to downgrade to?

cheers

Dice_real

What the hell is going on with Josh Kennedy SYD, anyone know if he's injured?

TRIGGA_HAPPY

And hannas?
Two proven premos producing very unlike scoring.

BockChoy

I carried JPK and Hanneberry for all of last year with underwhelming performance. Steered clear this year.

Hayden

Downgrade Hibberd to Coffield/Mirra? With Frawley going down, Mirra job security got a bit better. Hibberds Breakeven is 116, so he will drop again. Jump off to Coffield or cheaper again to Mirra?

Dice_real

Probably hear throughout the week about Mirra Hayden. Will Frawley miss any weeks?

KSinny

dont think so all he had was a migrane

Hayden

Hold for one more week until Mirra is on the bubble, and I miss the chance at Coffield. Should I downgrade to him instead? BE of -45, whilst Hibberd will drop another 30k this week. Thoughts?

Dice_real

I'm a fan of the early trade in, only if that player has fairly decent JS. Especially when you can only trade 2 per week, you could be just short of coin to get that premium in

TRIGGA_HAPPY

Wouldnt go early on mirra just incase.
We cant control injuries and u should wait till he is on the bubble.
Look at cyril and poppy. U just dont know.

TRIGGA_HAPPY

Villian Josh Kelly – unexpected out.

Josh mate. If u are goung to miss could you do us a favour and miss when u play later in the round. Gives us a chance to loop you..<img draggable="false" class="emoji" alt="😎" src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/2.4/svg/1f60e.svg"&gt;

Appreciate it.

SC_Sixty6

2205 this week! Moved me into 3k

Anyone trying to rise up the ranks try not to follow the pack as it will only cement you there with them, basically making captain choice the only differential!

DavidSA

Players like Hurn, Mundy and Wallace in fwd line will seperate you.
Probably need at least 3 players in the 22 who are in less than 7% of team selections.
Of course the PODs need to score extreamly well also.

To select Merrett now? Next week? Or not at all?
Those kinda decisions are a prime example of what can seperate top 1k to the rest

Theoriginalforce

With Franklin's form I'm Vc'ing him as often as possible. That 200 will come soon.

INPieman

You don't necessarily need to start with POD's. Finding them & how they go throughout the season defines your season

TRIGGA_HAPPY

True but a couple off the bat always handy out of the gates.

Marty

Have now 4 onfield rookies to not follow the pack and have Mitchell Dusty McCrae Fyfe, Cogs, Jom, Kelly T and Holman with .
Now to decide whether to put the pedal to the metal and go Brayshaw to a rookie and Holman to Gibbs. Kelly or Jom to Danger in a few more weeks then just Oliver to get.

What are people's thoughts on Bryce Gibbs?

Raver_dave

My biggest pod was zorko, what a ripper that's been……………

Sam

Only one trade this week. Bonner to Sicily. Thoughts? Hold Bonner or upgrade him. 440k available

John

Great feeling when you trade R Gray in for a nice 145. Wish it happens every week when you trade premium's in

DavidSA

Yup that feeling takes me back to when I selected Franklin rd7 and VC him scoring 160×2
They are the best

DavidSA

Double upgrade this week
Bonner and Fisher out
1) R.Gray and McGovern in 10k left
Or
2) R.Gray and Sicily in 50k left

John

Anyone know what the perfect bye structures are going into the byes? Are we meant to have an even amount of outs per round or is it meant to be lopsided towards one round in particular?

Ricardo

Depends on what you're playing for. For leagues try and win 2/3 bye games.

DavidSA

yeah for league heavily load 2/3 bye rounds with 20+ playing
For rank need to trade around the byes and get 19 playing each bye round.

Sc_Wow

Which premo?

Crowboy94

Wont worry about it now. Probably just going to hold this week. Even though I have billings and hibberd

DavidSA

Only time you cut a rookie off early is when you see a premo bargain that has bottomed out or set to shoot through the roof in price.
Otherwise squeeze out as much cash as you can out of rookies. Doedee BE is 21 and set to rise 20-25k more

Finnius

Doedee will rise another 60-100k imo

Whatyasmokin

He could end up going up another 200k, who knows.

SgtMarshallBB

Hey Community,

I currently have 194k in the bank, and have unfortunately been stuck with bonner and kreuzer, who are stinking it up at this point in time, what are your thoughts on the following moves:
1. Moving Kreuzer up to Grundy the man mountain
2. Moving Bonner out of the team for coffield who is on the bubble.

Let us know what you think!

lukeparkerfanboy1

wow! you really seem to be in a hole i hope the community can help you XD

Sc_Wow

Bit harsh on bonner, I’d get rid of kruuu and that dodgy groin though

SgtMarshallBB

Yeah thats fair Sc_Wow, well what are your thoughts on who to move Kreuzer too? Grundy who has been in hot form and in my opinion will continue, or go for someone like nic nat?

Sc_Wow

Yeah Grundy looks good

deancoxlover

Rate these moves despite the notorious historical form from both Kreuzer and Bonner. with your current bank balance, these moves will only benefit your side!

EasyMoneySniper

Get rid of both

lukeparkerfanboy1

Hola amigos!
Another week gone by and another L for my struggling team. I've just about had it with sauce jacobs and want to move him on… hold or trade?
Also can upgrade and looking at savage hurley or toby mclean
Let me you know what you think

deancoxlover

Hey there community!!!!
I am currently in intense debate on whether to give Hibberd the boot.
any suggestions and/or possible replacements? – i currently have 70k in the bank
cheers

Josh

Sitting top 4% at current time, but have had a few stink it up which I'm keen to trade.
Team is:
Laird HIbberd McGrath Bonner Doedee Finlayson (Murray, Murphy)
Titch Dusty Fyfe Sidebottom Cripps Coniglio Kelly Holman (Banfield, Barry, Brayshaw)
Gawn, Nic Nat (McInerny)
Heeney Smith Billings Petracca Stephenson Fritsch (Ryan, Giles Langdon)
Thinking of going Brayshaw and McGrath to Oliver and Mirra. Happy to hold Billings, also holding Liam Ryan until I can use his money with someone else. Thoughts appreciated.

Whatyasmokin

Too early.

Da Boysh

Hi all,

I am going pretty well i think top 4%.. need to make a call now though:

27 trades left

Petracca > Gray with 70k in the bank
Nank > Grundy with 47k in the bank

Really liking my team at the moment and I hate sideways bullsh!t, but I see Nank as consistent but not a top ruckman, I see Petracca as not breaking out this season like I hoped.

Da Boysh

or neither and hold.. forgot that option XD

Dice_real

Hold ya horses big fella.
I take it you have Gawn. Melbourne and Collingwood have the same bye

Da Boysh

yeah im getting a bit too jumpy..

What about Gray?

Dice_real

Yeah go for Gray, but i'd be keeping Petracca too he's going ok.
Who else is in your fwd line?

Da Boysh

i can cover him easily in that round, I have no pot players or GC players yet

Whatyasmokin

You trade petracca to Gray in round 10 if still not happy with him. Otherwise it means you miss a player score…………..

theRealPod

The Dees need to scotch guard asap, as soon as it got wet most of them were pathetic. The Hawks ripped into them and showed how soft they are when out of comfort zone. Clarry the exception and Hogan another chance after huge first quarter, I still have him on the watch list for now.

Captain Risky

If Hogan can go OK this week against Richmond then he's gone some way to convincing me he is worth having. Still on the fence.

Derek

I was at the game. After half time Melbourne couldn’t run. It was very obvious, when Melb got the ball, the hawks defence got back quicker than Melb forwards. Once the hawks started their short passing, Melb tired very quickly. Last quarter none of them could run

Steeeve

I'm pretty sold on leaving Coffield out of my side and bringing in Mirra next week.

HOWEVER Coffield should have good JS after starting his career well and with Roberton out. Worth considering…

Derek

There will be cheaper options.

Finnius

I agree – he is too expensive to downgrade to. Trades for me are worth at least 100k or 20 points per round.

BoltonsBlues

Brayshaw or LDU to Coffield is worth the trade
Will out score both
Will be worth more then both
Will make more money in 1 week then the 2 have made all year
JS is good

Simo

I agree about MIrra

DavidSA

5.2% coaches traded in Parfitt 🤣
All jokes aside BE -1 but the price tag 390k is a huge trap if he shits his pants

Derek

They were probably trading out Fisher

DavidSA

dont know if that is bad or worse lol

Crowboy94

Knew it would happen Haha he had one great game. Wont happen to often

Swans2012

104, 92, 62 and 168 good set of figures for a 390k m/f, not a one game wonder it would seem, not saying I'm doing it but there certainly is worse choices around, a short term ride the wave from an underperforming mid pricer might not be the worst move. At least he'll make $$ the next couple of weeks. I can't lie A little bit of me is considering Whitfield to parfitt, then parfitt to danger in a fortnight. I have had horrible failures with these sort of moves in the past, but also some success…..

theRealPod

Agree Swansl. Any player that can produce a massive score like he did must be considered as a pod. Go with ya gut.

Whatyasmokin

The burns will be real.

Finnius

Looking at the projected prices of my rookies for the rest of the year (guessing close to maximum price – unders, not overs), I came up with some interesting revelations.

Finlayson, Murray & Doedee – 380k

Naughton – 275k

Murphy – 260k

Kelly – 500k

Holman – 300k

Brayshaw – 220k

Garlett – 280k

Banfield – 300k

English – 300k

Stephenson – 340k

Fritsch – 280k

Henry – 260k

Langdon – 270k

Mirra – 300k

Total – 5.1 million

16 trades

Needed – 510k (slightly above average fallen premo price) x 8 + 123k (average rookie downgrade price) x 8 = 5.06 million

Therefore, 16-18 trades are needed to go full premium. You also need 7-8 for injuries.

Thus, you can allow yourself up to 5 trades in these early rounds as CORRECTIVE trades, to make sure that your side looks how you want it to. Getting rid of players such as Hibberd (46th ranked defender) and Kreuzer (16th ranked ruck), may cost you trades, but the nature of the rookies this year allows us to make these trades without too many worries. If you trade well throughout the year then you should be fine with making these corrections to your side. Further, if you do not do them now, then you won't be able to afford as good trades later because these players will keep leaking cash, and you will want to be using those two trades per week to be cashing in rookies and not worrying about underperforming premiums.

My trades this week are Hibberd to Mclean via Sicily DPP and Kreuzer to Grundy. I missed out on both these premiums at the start who seem guaranteed to top their positions, and thus I have no qualms about these corrective trades.

I know we all have our own supercoach rules to abide by – but just some food for thought.

INPieman

Nice work Finnius. I think if your willing to be patient with Brayshaw he can kick off off his price. Stepenson & Rayner proved last weekend it only takes 1 good week for them to reward you. The question is how long do you wait

Finnius

I am giving him one more – then will trade him, swing finlayson to the mids and bring in mirra. If he kills it then will reconsider, but can't have someone leaking cash on my bench.

Steve

How many more weeks will it take for English to arrive at that number? I need cash soon for upgrades.

Finnius

I am holding english until after rd 13 as I need him as cover for in the byes – but should be at 300k by rd 8ish, maybe even sooner if he pumps out an 80 odd this week.

Steve

Thanks mate, Looking at downgrading him to Olango, so a can upgrade Zorko, Neale or Whiftield to a Danger or Dusty

BVB21

I think this year we have been blessed with some good rookies so I think aggressive sideways trades are better this year then most others

Finnius

agreed completely. Especially in the backline.

TRIGGA_HAPPY

Yep 100%
I made comment on this last week
Lot more moo this year so easier to go one up one down.
Only thing that may throw a spanner in the works is having the right rookie downgrades at the right time.
But with the right moo rookies to start havent hesitated in trading out kruez and billings as early correctives .

Whatyasmokin

Its only round 4, we barely know anything about this year 😉

Ahmad rubas

Assuming you started 14 keepers how many keepers/premos would you excpect to have come the bye rounds?

Finnius

at the start 18/19 and by the end 22.

Derek

I think you will need more than $510k per premium upgrade. I was think about $540-$550k. Then you will need at least 1 decent DPP bench cover, maybe of the Petracca level.

I like how you are doing the maths and planning ahead.

Chris Rhoney

Got lots of juniors in my team earning big cash but only averaging 2000 a week

Got just over 400,000 in bank and need to trade out injured Ryan in the forward line any thought, can afford Franklin or heeney top end but wipes out my funds for time being (when trading Ryan)

Already carrying premiums like dusty, fyfe and Mitchell in mid
Menegola, d.smith and Sicily and billings are my big earners in forwards

TheBenchmark25

What do coaches do with players like Barry and Murphy who didn't play this week and again do not get named to played this round?
Move them on?

BVB21

Murphy is injured so I’ll wait to see if he gets named once fit.

Barry I think is done. Talking to a few of my port mates and he prob will struggle to get back into the team

Swans2012

Yep might have to turn him into coffield….

Jack

Hold Murphy for sure because he comes straight back in once fit.
I'm hearing alot of people say Barry won't get back into Ports team and I believe that's only true if Port have no injuries from now to the end of the season. He'll play. At least hold him until the 1st week of byes and trade him then. You don't make much coin of it anyway

TheBenchmark25

Cheers jack

Whatyasmokin

Agree jack

r_calve

who do i trade in for Zorko, already got titch, Coniglio, fyfe, neale and merrett

maybe Sidebottom or ed Curnow looks good

BVB21

Wouldn’t go either of the two u suggested. Unlikely to be top 8 mid. Can u afford Oliver?