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Round 4 SuperCoach Panic Room

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Pile in, everybody! No time to wipe your feet. We’ve got some PANIC to do after another frustrating round.

I blame Collingwood. They set us SuperCoaches up for a trying weekend when they, grown adults, couldn’t spell “tonight” correctly in front of 70,000 at the G. That’s almost calling your teacher Mum level of embarrassment. Ben Jacobs claimed another scalp, this time Clayton Oliver, and while Banfield took the honours against the less SuperCoach relevant Aaron Hall, it needs to be something we consider for his matchups in the future. Gaz was the latest to join the SuperCoach medical room and will need to go this week, as will Liam Ryan, just as he was beginning to look at home in this AFL thing. Sloane, Selwood, Neale, Goldy, Kruze, Billings, and Shaw were premiums to disappoint.

I miss Jock in these situations. He always had the perfect amount of sage wisdom to lift us up. Jock, if you’re out there having a read of this the studio is always open, the mic is always on for you to drop some nuggets of SuperCoach gold to keep us going for another week. I’ve been on Panic Room duties for a few weeks now; doors are opening, Patch has started making eye contact with me, but it’s clear to me that we need you Jock! Patch’s replacement for you is getting tired.

(he edits the podcasts)

As always, the treasure trove of content dropping daily out of Jock HQ is both shiny and bountiful. Damo stepped for Lek this week and made his podcast debut. VFL action kicked off on the weekend and Barron von Crow was there to tell us who is impressing at lower level. Sloane has given us a glimpse into captain choices for this week and MVP of the week, Damo, has given us another cheat sheet to get around. There’s a bit happening in news this week, let’s get into it!

THE NEWS

When did Lachie Murphy get injured? He’s out tonight and Darcy Fogarty is back in after a week off in the Crows only change. For the Pies, Jordan de Goey has sobered up long enough for Collingwood to give him his first game of the season at the expense of an injured Taylor Adams.

GWS have have dropped a bomb by hiding the Josh Kelly groin injury from all of us. Leon Cameron has come out and said, “hopefully it’s just this week, maybe two.” Though we’ve seen the impact of a groin injury can have with Kreuzer. I lost my bet on Tobias Greene being the first player to bite someone this year, he’s back in with Ryan Griffen and Dawson Simpson, the latter of the trio replacing the injured Rory Lobb. Ross Lyon has named an unchanged lineup and I need a moment to process this. Jack Higgins hasn’t survived the cut, straight out for the returning Josh Caddy. Dion Prestia replaces Sam Lloyd. On the other side of the matchup we are getting a rookie debut in Zac Bailey (MID – $139.8k). Dayne Beams is back as well. Neither the Swans or the Dogs have done much that will hurt us from a SuperCoach standpoint, though preseason buzz boy Aliir Aliir gets his chance. JJK is back to beat up the Suns, he kicked 5 and had 146SC last time out against them. Liam Ryan is out in case you’ve missed the “who do we replace Liam Ryan with” question all week. Pearce Hanley can’t keep his right shoulder attached to his body and has gone to see a specialist about becoming the first human/cyborg to play in the AFL. In what is surely the match of the round, North v Carlton… *cough* the loss of Caleb Marchbank is going to hurt me from a Draftstars standpoint, he’s always good value Caleb. Cam O’Shea gets another chance and Lochie O’Brien (DEF/MID – $162.3k) will debut.

On Sunday, Connor McKenna will be sidelined for the the next three weeks picking bits of Tory Dickson out of his teeth, opening the chance for Matt Guelfi (FWD – $117.3k) to debut and for BT to get his name wrong. Sam Powell-Pepper is out nursing one hell of a hangover, Jarrod Lienert (DEF – $123.9k) is one of five ins, but I’m not certain he will debut until later tonight. The Hawks will regain James Sicily and have once again named Dave Mirra on an extended bench. Dom Tyson must have some serious sniffles to be out with illness 2 days before the match, the Dees have named 5 ins with Angus Brayshaw being among them. The Cats are running out of healthy players with three more added to their injury list. The silver lining in this is we get a look at Stephen Wells’ stockpile of draft talent. Charlie Constable (MID – $117.3k) the latest. Mitch Duncan finally returns and after conceding against Nic Nat last week, they’ve brought back Rhys Stanley and Zac Smith to beat up Patch’s boy, Rowan “my boat” Marshall. The Saints have named Logan Austin (DEF – $159.7k) for a potential debut, Hunter Clark is on an extended bench.

THE HOUSE OF EVIL

Tom Doedee, Tim Kelly, Jeremy Finlayson, and Nick Holman are once again our top 4 Frogurt’s (that’s good!) this week. If you don’t have them you’ve missed the boat a little bit, but as all 4 are still going to rise a lot in the coming weeks you can still jump on. Others of note:

* = on the bubble

These guys come with a free frogurt (that’s good!)

-50 – Ed Richards*

-46 – Jack Henry*

-42 – Jake Waterman

-39 – Sam Murray

-32 – Esava Ratugolea*

-31 – Mitch Crowden*

-30 – Bailey Banfield

-18 – Bayley Fritsch

-11 – Dom Barry

-6 – Jarrod Garlett

-4 – Adam Cerra*

-1 – Aaron Naughton

These premiums contain potassium benzoate (that’s bad!)

Patrick Dangerfield – 215

Aaron Hall – 204

Dayne Beams – 203

Kruuuuuuuuuze – 199

Rocky – 179

Elliot Yeo – 177

Lachie Neale – 161

Jack Billings – 160

Zerrett – 158

Buddy – 141

Luke Parker – 140

Clayton Oliver- 138

Michael Hibberd – 137

SMOOTH KEVY’S LOCK OF THE WEEK

Damo gave him a mention in his cheat sheet this week and I’m backing him up here. Jarryd Lyons dropped a 66SC in the swamp at Cazaly, and he copped the Ben Jacobs tag in that match. In better conditions has seen him pump out a 152 and a 138.

My preseason money was on Aaron Hall to pick up much of the post Gary Ablett slack, while I still think he will, in the mean time it is Lyons that is averaging career bests in contested possessions (18 per game – 4th in the comp), clearances (9.3 – 2nd), metres gained (565.7m – 5th), tackles (6.3 – 18th), inside 50’s (6.3 – 7th) and rebound 50’s (2.3). Almost 21 of his 29 disposals are kicks (=1) and he is also chipping in with a goal a game and 5.7 score involvements. These are amazing numbers, the man is hunting the ball whether it’s on the deck or someone else has possession of it.

While he carries some risk, he’s never averaged more than 90 in a SuperCoach year, he has the backing of South Australian SuperCoach royalty.

At 521k he’s a price jump of 28k so far, with that 66 now dropping out of his 3 week rolling average his breakeven plummets to 20. He’s in line for a 30k price rise this week.

HEY NOW, YOU’RE A DRAFTSTAR

For me, the enjoyment of Draftstars comes in not single game slates, but in full day or full round contests. In single game slates if your sure thing premo gets injured or shits the bed *coughZerrettcough* it’s almost impossible to come back from that. Full day contests involve a greater selection of high scoring premo’s that allow you to carry a dud choice or two. Saturday features 5 game slate, this is how Fantasy Insider see’s it playing out

Here’s my take on things:

I love a cheap ruck and Dawson Simpson (RUCK – $8,800) will ruck solo against Sandi. He’s coming off a 44 hitout, 13 possession game in the twos. I’ll be rostering him at minimum price and hope Sandi doesn’t break him. I feel dirty suggesting Cal Sinclair (RUCK – $11,800), but he’s averaging 101DS so far and his price feels just about right. He faces the Dogs’ “rucks” and saluted with a 123DS last week.

Ed Richards (DEF – $7,500) scored 85DS last week and has been the talk of SuperCoach this week, he will find things harder against the Swans but his price is attractive for his upside. Adam Tomlinson (DEF – $9,950) was down last week, but he’s flashed his 90DS potential twice so far this year, expect him to bounce back against Freo.

There’s a few ways you can go for finding a midfield cheapie in this contest. You wouldn’t go near Ben Jacobs (MID – $8,800) in SuperCoach, but Jacobs scored 86DS tagging Oliver last week and 107DS the week before tagging Seb Ross. Nick Holman (MID – $9,500) loves his cuddles and is still value at under 10k. Kamdyn McIntosh (DEF/MID – $9,100) has a nice matchup against Brisbane, and Lachie Weller (MID – $8,750) found his groove against Freo last week.

At the top tier, Stephen Coniglio (MID – $16,150) and Jack Macrae (MID – $16,450) have both been brilliant but won’t come cheap, pick one and partner them with Ed Curnow (MID – $14,450), Jarryd Lyons (MID – $14,700) or Lachie Hunter (MID – $14,500). All three have shown similar ceilings to Coniglio and Macrae but are $1500 – $2000 cheaper. Josh Caddy and Isaac Heeney, who is also a MID/FWD, are both great value at $12,500, as is Toby McLean (MID/FWD – $12,900). He’s had 56 possessions over his past 2 games.

Up forward, Zac Fisher (FWD – $9,100) faces North and has shown he is good for a 70. His teammate Charlie Curnow (FWD – $11,700) has had a super consistent start, scoring between 82 and 115 so far. Jason Castagna (FWD – $7,650) kicked 4 and had 16 disposals in the corresponding game against Brisbane last year. Will he catch fire again? Mitch Robinson (MID/FWD – $13,000) loves playing the Tigers. he had 29 possessions and 11 marks in this game last year. 

**COMMUNITY MESSAGE**

The comments on this site are getting a bit out of hand recently. If you’ve been around here for a while I’m sure you’ll agree there are some truly fantastic, kind, and knowledge fantasy football brains out there. 

Everyone is at a different level in their SuperCoach journey. Everyone has different ideas and opinions when it comes to who, and to who not, trade in / out. It’s a community so feel free offer your advice, but be respectful giving it and remember it’s their team, you don’t need to manage it for them.

Jock Reynolds happened because we all share something in common – the love of SuperCoach.

Be kind to one another – Kev xx


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Mystic Mac

`Love your work Kev, good luck this weekend coaches!

Multi_

Please Please Please no more injuries

INPieman

Fantastic read Kev. I'd be much happier with this being a member only community. Get rid of the trolls

Mystic Mac

agreed

Multi_

Agreed INPie usually read all the comments but it is turning into dribble with those trolls.
Just need to ignore them

The Ranger

That's the trick Multi. Too many people get sucked in.

Valens_FC

I play FPL every season and they have a community called Fantasy Football Scout https://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/

Similar to this community, FFS is carried by a group of die hard regulars who are respectful and understanding of managers at different stages of the journey. There's over 5 million people playing FPL so it's totally different in scale, but the passion for the game and the diversity in experience between managers is very similar.

Most of the Scout content is available to all, but to comment you have to be a member and being a member costs 15 quid a year. That of itself is not necessarily an obstacle to trolls, but it certainly encapsulates the concept of membership and thus gives the organisers the right to terminate a membership if someone is not upholding the community spirit.

I would certainly not be averse to paying an annual membership fee to be in the JR Community if only to provide some level of cost offset for all the time and effort the guys put in. I don't say it every time, but how can you not be grateful to Patch, Lek, Kev, Damo, Barron, Carl and then all the regular (constructive) contributors in the comments.

Membership could then come with a no flog policy and give the guys the right to warn and ultimately terminate the membership of anyone who wants to be a full-time flog. Then if you're a flog, no comments for you. Very simple.

Armonk

I too play FPL and think that is an excellent model for a Fantasy community (sounds a bit weird). You don't need to pay to post, but you need to sign up for an account/username which at least keeps people accountable to their crappy post history.

I read here quite a bit but don't post often because in many ways it seems anonymous. I think membership (paid or not) would help fix a bit of that.

On a lighter note, what's your FPL rank? Bench boosting for the double this saturday? 🙂

Valens_FC

Ah forcing me to out my lowly FPL rank! I've really struggled this season down at 360k. Best finish was just outside the 2k, but that was when I lived in London. I find it a lot harder not seeing many games now back living in Oz.

Bench boosting this week in a final desperate attempt to win my mini league…. somehow I don't think my triple Burnley defence is going to be a winning formula! Already shot the free hit so I've had to cover a bit for 35.

How are you getting on?

Fully agree with your views above btw re controlled membership, paid or otherwise.

Armonk

Ha! I'm languishing around 100k, down from top 1k the last 2 years. Hoping Kane (C) as a differential in my mini-league can restore me to glory. Also a double up on Burnley. That FH Chip is proving to be instrumental in shaping the run in. Glad I saved it. I got Foxtel and was pleased to see they carried every game, until the Optus debacle. Very annoying.

To draw SC lessons from FPL, I think differentials hold even more power in SC due to the limited trading. At the end of the season teams are about 80% alike making it difficult and flukey to gain ground. The organisers might want to look into a way of shaking things up…chips? More aggressive price rises? Something to prevent everyone and their dog having the same 6 midfielders.

Anyway, best of luck for the runin and here's to 2 Burnley clean sheets!

Valens_FC

Top 1k very good work! I know there's a lot of 1-week wonders in that comp trying to win the weekly prize, but it does feel like there's at least 1m regular players so top 1k is very much at the sharp end. I'll know where to come for advice next season!

The struggle I have with FPL is the same with AFL. I know my team well, but I have limited knowledge of the rest of the league. At least when living in London and going to games (I was and still am a Chelsea season ticket holder!) I got a better sense of oppo clubs.

It would be great to see a bit of evolution with SC, but I fear with the dwindling number of participants they may not continue to invest in it. Some version of the wild card or free hit available during the byes would be great. The way the teams converge in SC is the main downside imo.

Patch

Adding money to the equation isn't something I'm huge on – I personally would want to make everything we do accessible to everyone in the community and help it grow. Besides, so few people cause an issue on the site when commenting anyway.

Adding membership adds so much more complication to running the site, which is complicated enough work as is.

Valens_FC

Fully understood Patch…. we're all indebted to you and the boys for keeping the community going and the work doesn't go unnoticed or unappreciated. It's a noble philosophy that you are following and I'm sure Jock is looking on with great pride at his legacy.

Possible over reaction to the trolling that has been happening. Things seem to be improving the past 24 hours so let's hope that continues!

AlbertonOval

No Flog policy works for me, great suggestion!

OldOcker

NO IT WONT TRUST AN OLD BLOKE.

OldOcker

Hey nuts there are easy ways to get rid of trolls.
The Jock Reynolds website was built on contributions of others because of knowledge and experience.
Jock was always a man for the people and his reputation was built on that.
This site is always about the great contributors in articles and constructive comments.
I will fix the trolls.
I am sorry I was not here earlier to do that.
You have only been playing along with them whether you realize it or not but I can tell you one thing.
Any form of membership to this great site is signing the death of this site. Jock has done so many studies on the Demographics of SC participants and if it was possible to be successful Jock would still be here.

Cheers.

Bald&theBeautiful

Is it crazy to trade Josh Kelly? How many weeks off would we consider trading him? Has Coniglio taken points from him or has it been his groin that's hampered him? So many questions!

INPieman

If I didn't have Titch or Dusty I'd trade him this week. Perfect excuse. Groin injuries can linger.

Bald&theBeautiful

Don't have Titch, so that is music to my ears. I'd be curious to hear what the rest of the community thinks!

The Ranger

Still tossing it up Baldy but very tempted to go straight to Dusty or Macrae.

hedski

I'm holding for a week to reassess, already bringing in Titch for Brayshaw and punting Ryan this week.

Multi_

Nice in Hedski

hedski

With my luck Vince will hold him to 70 points Multi.

Starky

I’m thinking of sucking it up this week and trading him to a Danger who would have reduced in value next week (Subject to Danger having more midfield minutes and going large)

Multi_

I'm holding already lost Crouch and Ablett so definitely not keen on replacing a premo will see what they say next week and if it turns into a longer term will swap to Oliver

GreendaleFC

I'm trading him to Coniglio. Tom Mitchell is a decent trade as well. He's an important captain selection just about every week.

Keenbutclueless

I am going to trade. Ranked at 30k, so if I still want to aim at the pointy end, I need to do something radical. Bringing in Robbie Gray, because I think he is possibly the only true underpriced premium at the moment. I hope he goes ballistic for a while and it gives me an advantage over everyone waiting to get him after his bye. I have a cookie cutter team, with all the weak links like Hibberd and Lambert and Merrett. No luck with Crouch. I think already I can’t just be aiming to get in the same guys that everyone above me has. Need to be a bit adventurous. So will try something different. To bring this back to the original question- should we trade Kelly? Then the answer is: if you are in a good place with your team, maybe hold. If you need to do something out of the box (like me) then trade.

Marty

I think Gray is a great POD only picked up by 7%

Randomcliche2

He's an in or me as well. I bye bye Danger money.

Patch

Conventional Supercoach wisdom would say to hold, but groin injuries are a bitch. I'd still lean hold to assess, but I also don't have him. If I had him, I'd find holding a bitter pill to swallow.

Would still hold and attempt to jump to Danger next week but I can't look anyone in the eye and judge them for trading Kelly out.

The Ranger

Thanks Kev.
Community I need some advice. Crap start to the season. 356K in the bank due to injury trading. 28 trades left.

Laird, Lloyd, Witherden, Doedee, Finlayson, Murray – Naughton, Keefe
Danger, Titch, Fyfe, J.Kelly, Cogs, T.Kelly. Holman, Banfield – Brayshaw, Barry, Hiiggins
Kreuzer, Gawn – English
Heeney, Walters, Smith, Taranto, Stephenson, Fritsch – Venables, Langdon

I was planning on going Stephenson and Venables/Brayshaw – McLean and Henry/Crowden but J.Kelly not playing is clouding my thinking….what would you do?
Happy to entertain trading Kelly out, I don't like groins.

Multi_

Personally id hold Ranger and assess next week but if your keen go Kelly straight to Dusty

The Ranger

Very tempted Multi as it gives me the big four nice and early but it doesn't work well the byes.
It looks good on the screen but…

TommyC99

Thinking the same thing

SC_Kev7

Without Kelly this week you'll be looking at a 4 rookie midfield, Ranger. He might be back next week, although GWS aren't in my good books about being transparent with injury news.

Your planned trades aren't too bad. You could still grab McLean (super value, should be a top fwd) this week by going JK – dpp fwd into mid – McLean. Then trade Steph/Venables – move that mid dpp back fwd – grab whoever appeals with the mids. Does that work? DPP moves get all jumbled in my head haha

The Ranger

Thanks Kev, I'm currently doing something along those lines in order to get Macrae and Mclean with both in the mids this week until I can swing McLean fwd again.

The Ranger

If you were trading out Brayshaw or Stephenson which would it be Kev?

Randomcliche2

Hope you kept Stephenson

The Ranger

Bloody glad I did mate!

EasyMoneySniper

Hey community,
Hope we did not suffer too much carnage this week….
Murphy makes it impossible for me too loophole, so who should i start out of Eddy Richards and Nick Coffield???

The Ranger

Jeez that's a flip of the coin one Easy.
I liked the look of Coffield in the JLT, he just gets the nod for mine.

Greg

Coffield out

Marty

He is in Greg. Was on extended bench but now one of the interchange players.

Russty_

Liked the play of Richards…and I have no faith in the Saints this year.

TRIGGA_HAPPY

Apologies to the other writers but this article was the read of the week.
Probably gets the yellow jersey because it is laced with humour and helpful info.
Kinda like how I like to roll.
Well done Kev! 👍
Keep it up mate.

Panic level;
Mild as we speak but could soar to stricken over the weekend.

Schleprock

Agreed. Great reading. Thanks Kev.

SC_Kev7

Cheers, Trig. Glad you’re enjoying it mate. Good start to the year?

TRIGGA_HAPPY

Yeah mate best for a long time.
Top 1%. Average over 2300.
So no complaints.
3 starting purple pods of walters, ryan and crowden been fantastic.

Hoping my brayshaw to tarranto trade starts to pay dividends. Blemish last week for young Timmy against the swans. Expecting better this week.

Got all the rookies right so happy days.

Shake_n_Bake_

No Kelly this week Tarranto hopefully steps up.

neil demons delight

Yes must agree Trigg wasn't Kev's article just great . The best for a while I may be alone but I don't like any of the current batch of bubble boys I am holding Ryan looking at Zac Bailey who Mathews rates the best kid at brissy Balic when he get a start and keeping an eye on Coffield bit dear but solid. They are all a while off but why waste trades on fill ins cheers

Crowboy94

Hey Guys would really appreciate some help/feedback on my team! Really struggling this year, after having a much better one last year.

Thanks!

Laird, Hibberd, McGovern, Doedee, Finlayson, Murray ( Naughton, Murphy)

Dangerfield, Mitchell, Fyfe, J.Kelly, Merrett, T.Kelly, Holman, Banfield (Brayshaw, Higgins, Barry)

Gawn, Nank (Cameron)

Heeney, Billings, McLean, Sicily, Stephenson, Henry ( Garlett, Fritsch)

247k in bank with 27 trades

redherringfc

Just hold.

3 trades down. It’s ok at the moment. It’s a long season.

See what the word is on kelly. You have to park a premium on the bench at some stage. Looks like 2 weeks, better than 2 weeks at the finals with 3 donuts coming your way.

If Kelly does what we know he will do you’ll end up bringing him back in.

Round games can be a lottery at this time of the year. Play a smart game and by week 7 or 8 you’ll be better than most with plenty of trades to go.

Locked and Loaded

The Josh Kelly CONUNDRUM!! I’ll defontioey be holding unless I had a 4 rookie starting midfield then I’d probably hit the button…
Question is this guys – considering Brayshaw -> Richards vis Finlayson AND Liam Ryan -> Zac Fisher/ Crowden??

Advice appreciated

Multi_

Sorry Lock but defontioey <img draggable="false" class="emoji" alt="😂" src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/2.4/svg/1f602.svg"&gt; it’s as far as I could get to funny bud

Locked and Loaded

Just an autocorrect mistake champ lol… on the iPhone

Multi_

Made me laugh mate good old IPhone. I even got caught out by someone at work as I was trying to pronounce it the way it was typed

Locked and Loaded

😂😂 that’s great!!
mate I hate typing on this thing

Russty_

Gotta wonder who programs Auto-correct if it ends up like that?..haha

Locked and Loaded

Well more to the fact it didn’t autocorrect lol left it as typed… btw I’d love some advice on my question LOL

Russty_

Oh sorry mate lol, I like the Richards move, and Ryan to Henry or Crowden, reckon Henry has more upside, in a better team, and not a supercoach burning coach like Lyon.

Locked and Loaded

Cheers mate lol
Yeah I’m all of a sudden thinking of trading Josh Kelly not liking what I’m hearing

Mystic Mac

I'm in the same boat Crowboy.. Hoping McGovern comes good this week.

hedski

Thanks again Kev, well said on the last issue.
I'm holding Kelly for a week, will loop D.Fog and Banfield for his spot.
Got a few juicy matchups in the head to heads this week, good luck to Shake, Russty, Pieman, Gator and Brownlow Boy…..let's dance!

Russty_

Good luck to you too bud, and all the boys and girls in all our leagues 🙂

Beezneez

Still reeling over you beating me by one last week in Guns and Rookies.

Russty_

Sorry about that Beez, I'm sure you'll get revenge on me at some point mate haha

INPieman

Looking forward to locking horns mate

Shake_n_Bake_

Have Kelly aswell Hedski wont be doing any sideways trade this week either but Kelly is a worry. Hopeful Danger drops about 30k this week might look at that sideways trade next week. Good luck to ur Cats but not for you this week!! 😜

hedski

Ha ha, go crows 👍

FranklinShow

Is Toby McLean a must have in SC this year, he appears to be getting a elevated time through the mids, he gets involved in a large portion of doggies scores and seems a very neat kick. I feel like he will be a top 8 forward but I'm nervous to bring him in so early in the year.
My top 10 fwds (in no particular order) – Heeney, Billings, Franklin, Menegola, Walters, McLean, Smith, Gray, Greene & Petraca.

Any i have missed in the communities opinion.

Valens_FC

I had high hopes for De Goey pre-season before he went on his bender. He's handy in front of goal and with midfield spots looking like they will open up due to injury he's one to watch. JJK with the Eagles travelling better than expected. Lots of love for Hogan this week, especially if he really is going to play a Nick Roo style role from here on in.

neil demons delight

Hogan and J J K

Marty

Lynch from GC

Randomcliche2

Dixon? KPF like couple of other suggestions. Patton if Lobb keeps up the no show. Sicily if not suspended. Mundy, Wallis and doghouse could get there. It's a very open top 10 for me and in the 6 to 20 zone I don't think there I'll be a lot of point diffference. For me the question is which ones can avg 100+. Heeney Gray Walters Menegola. Who else?

skate or die

community, it's a long year. If you have Kelly, hold. Unless you have two or more premos injured, everyones priority ATM should be trading in your cash generation "cash cows" on the bubble.

skate or die

I should also mention, I have Kelly in my team

Leeds17

Understand the thinking but I held Hanners last year & this feels very similar, Kelly knocking out 3 pretty decent scores whilst obviously in some discomfort, it's all well and good if he comes back next week but if he has the same role from the last 2 weeks he wont be the 110+ player I started with him to be.

Very much a personal preference trade, I personally haven't made a trade yet, rookies are solid bar having Ryan, I've got to deal with Gaz, so a Gaz & Kelly for Coniglio & Dusty/Danger is very much on the cards for me.

Clayt

Gray v Walters for F5. Someone pitch me! (note: already have heeney, devon, mclean & billings). Can't afford Greene or Buddy

David C

Get Gray after his bye.

Randomcliche2

I think both are better than green and Bud. Gray just but bye dependant.

NoLanguage

Walters

dave

Who are we trading in for Ryan?

Rabbits16

henry for me biggest breakeven… job security with henry i have no idea though

Leeds17

Henry's the best option Job security is rock solid, Taylor & Henderson look like they'll probably be out till after the byes.

dave

Henry is not the best option. Henry plays for the saints and saints play cats at eithad. Henry up fwd the saints won't kick goals cause can't kick and miss each other hope roof is closed the cats should win by lots of goals I think Ryan trades for Venables he is playing this week so will rise heaps and heaps in money then can buy ablett so he will make me score huge and I can win against my bro David.

Leeds17

Henry plays for Geelong Champ.

SC_Donkey

Still undecided, was gonna trade him to henry. There's a few rookies playing this round and many more to come in the coming weeks. Will hold him until i have better option of rookies to choose from.

Steve

Firmly of the opinion to trade out Kelly this week.

Kelly to Dusty with 100k in the bank or Kelly to Cogs with 260k

Which option is better community?

Cheers

Yo-Yo Yeo

Dusty pretty easily for mine

Finnius

Yeah Dusty is 100% top five mid. Must have.

Leeds17

Do you have Danger & Titch? If so I'd go to Coniglio personally a 105-110ave for under 500K is amazing. Best to have 2 of the big 3 mids though

TommyC99

Worried about Kelly’s groin and I read from the other thread that he has carried this for a while. Wanting to swap him for dusty. Should I be worried about the Robinson tag this week?

Valens_FC

Wouldn't have thought so… Dusty on the back of last year's finals untaggable in my view. His ability to go forward and dominate one on one a very powerful counter if he is actually struggling to win the ball in midfield. Kicked a lazy 5 against the crows in a losing team. Bloody gun.

Saundo

If you’re going for a league win, trade him, otherwise hold! Look at your competition

pod

Robinson is a good tagger when fit but not sure he can stop Dusty going at least 120. I would do it if had your prob.

Crowboy94

What do people think of Stephenson to Petracca? Will leave me with only 5k in the bank though…

Rabbits16

trade down to crowden, henry, richards, ratugolea? make 50 60k from the trade alone? thats the direction i would go

redherringfc

You missed Petraccas value. Don’t pay more than the others for him. Get your value elsewhere.

Andrew

If u think he’ll be a top 10 forward there is still great value in picking him up now

Lekdog

Did you do this?

NoLanguage

Hope for your sake you kept Stephenson $$$

theRealPod

Did you go ahead with the trade? I hope you held Stephenson, looks like making some decent cash after last night. Didn't get a lot of it but kicked a few snags which would of no doubt impressed Bucks and the toothless brigade.

Crowboy94

No I didn't Haha thank God! I traded down Ryan to Henry and JKelly to Macrae.
Also left Stephenson on field! 🙂

CJudd3Votes

Holding Kelly for as long as Danger's BE sits above 150

Johnny

J.lyons worth a go? Could easily fill an m7 or m8 if it goes wrong & a lot higher if it comes off. He looks an absolute powerhouse that midfield is his at GC. It would be a trade for lobb.

SC_Kev7

Researching him for lock of the week the only downside to him is he d.e%. He fills his SC stats in a lot of ways, instead of just relying on a few things. Very tempting option for JK, good for my bye coverage too

Demonlover84

What about his awful bye Kev or are you thinking the rookies will be enough cover and Lyons will score enough points during the season?

Johnny

I can make the cash to go straight up to dusty. But the value in Lyons seems so good Kev. Dusty may drop 40k yet . I think the rookies are good enough to cover a crappy bye demon. Just as long as u don’t have to many port or GC .

Reece

Only dilemma this week is wether to field Garlett, Fritsch or Venebals! Help me out community! Thanks guys

Saundo

Fritz

Crowboy94

Garlett as he is named. Fritsch has to make the bench yet.

neil demons delight

he's in but close between both.maybe Fritsch

BrownlowBoy

Help me out fellas. Really torn this week and unsure of what trades (if any) to make.

30 trades and 107k in the bank.

Laird, Hibberd, Sicily, Doedee, Finalyson, Murray, Naughton, Murphy
Danger, Mitchell, Kelly, Oliver, Fyfe, Kelly, Holman, Banfield, Brayshaw, Garlett, Barry
Gawn, Nank, Olango
Heeney, Billings, Smith, Walters, Taberner, Fritisch, Ryan, Langdon

Any feedback is greatly appreciated!

Crowboy94

Ryan to Henry or Crowden

BrownlowBoy

Yes, I've been contemplating that. I'm not sure whether to wait for Coffield next week or go one of these boys. I don't see Henry scoring like he did last week, there is no way he gets that many intercepts every week and we saw Crowden score poorly in his first outing, with his stats very similar between his lowest score and his highest score.

hedski

Just read on afl site that Hendo could still be a while off BB and not much news on Harry, I think Henry will be a good pickup.
Got you in your league this week good luck. What's your plans for J. Kelly?

BrownlowBoy

Probably hold Hedski. Not going to jump on Dusty although it is tempting. Gonna have Robinson hanging off him this week. Thinking I'll just suck it up and roll with a rookie on field.

How about yourself? You got Kelly?

hedski

Yeah I'm holding this week, will loop D. Fog and Banfield.

neil demons delight

I am with you B B. The Saints have to have something go right .Coffield looks a standout but costly.

fcabel

Henry concussed in first. Only played 35% game.

Ja191

One definite one would be ryan to either crowden/henry. kelly could also be someone you could look at swapping to possibly dusty or conigs. Pretty torn myself on kelly. Rest of the team looks pretty solid.

Yo-Yo Yeo

FFS Kelly, another groin injury.
I've got Kreuzer, Armitage, Lobb & now Kelly all with dodgy groins. Ok, so Lobb and Armitage I knew coming into this season about their groins so I'll hold a mirror up for that one.
As for the other 2, could they let me know perhaps before I select them.
Note for 2019: before I select any player I'm gonna get in contact with their partners to find out if they have any groin issues. I'll try to do it without sounding creepy!!!

Randomcliche2

Kreuzer was unlucky mate. But yeah. I hear you.

NickyLeigh

Help Needed: Should i drop McGovern for Simpson this week or wait a week and pick up Yeo (Yeo will drop more than McGovern this week hence money "saved")

Cliffy

I am another that faces the Kelly conundrum this week!

I'm pretty certain to go Ryan – Henry so far, so that's fine but I couldn't stand the thought of a 4 rookie midfield this week so could that be a good enough excuse to move Kelly on? This was my Mids at the moment:

Martin, Mitchell, Kelly*, Fyfe, Coniglio, Brayshaw, Holman, Kelly (GEEL) (Banfield, Garlett, Barry)

Because I already have Martin and Mitchell (had them from day dot), was thinking I could go for a POD in either Gibbs/Lyons/Macrae. What do you guys think? Thanks

Rapid growth

My thoughts are Macrae just gets the job done and under the radar,i also have Kelly really tempted to wait one week and then trade him for Danger who will come down in price anyone else see this as correct call?

Ja191

field banfield, barry or fogarty for kelly?

BrownlowBoy

Banfield

Andrew

Which two out of Stephenson, Fritsch, Henry and Garlett to field?

Tyruddanaut

Trades this week:

Billings—> McLean (Bontempelli playing forward much more)
Ryan —> Henry (Averages 90+ when not injured*)

*1 game

Defying_Madness

Your plan if Bont goes back to the middle and Billings starts playing middle again? Will you use another trade then?

pod

only the second trade makes sense

nickgonzalez771

Cheers Kev for the brilliant write up. We all appreciate the efforts you and the boys put in. Agreeing on all fronts, we're here to have a good time and not take ourselves too seriously. Here's hoping we've got a brilliant season ahead of us, within these forums and injury-wise!

On the trades front for me just one this week with L.Ryan out for Henry, Guthrie out for 8-9 and Henry on the field gives me a lot of confidence. Didn't want to field another Freo player, particularly a rookie, with Banfield, Brayshaw, Walter and #FyfeisLyfe already part of my team.

Was a shaky decision to keep Zerrett but I'll stick with him, although Lyons looks like he could have an amazing season at this rate. Kicking myself with the toss up between the two of them ahead of the start of the season, but it seemed like too big a risk.

Last week with Brayshaw unless he screws his head on right, backing him to do enough to make some cash still. Need all the healthy bodies I can get with ZGL (Back soon though, woo-hoo!) and Kruzzzeeeee not looking 100%.

Should I be worried at all about Fritsch getting picked? Teams will be finalised soon, I know, but otherwise I've only got Garlett to take his place and hit output is shaky at best.

Cheers in advance!

Demonlover84

Fritsch will play, Goody loves him and he's important to our structure with Hogan playing up field more. I'm in the same boat with Zerrett and Brayshaw. Zerrett needs at least a 90 average over the next few weeks for me to keep him though. Brayshaw is gone next week unless he pulls out a 60 odd.

Locked and Loaded

Trading out Josh Kelly and Ryan

FOR

Option 1 – Coniglio and Zac Fisher
Option 2 – Oliver and Henry/ Crowden

SC_Kev7

2

TOPHAWK1

Option 2. Oliver and Henry.

Locked and Loaded

Cheers fellas

Bazza

Billings owners, are you trading? I'm on the fence.
If I were to trade, I would trade in Conigs via dpp. That would mean my forwards will be light on with the likes of Heeney, Smith, Petracca, Christensen and Fritsch / Garlett.
Atleast I would have a keeper in Coniglio though?

FearTheBeard

I had given him the boot till this Kelly news.

So I then reversed. To be a little more detailed they both had break evens around same to be honest (Billings around 160).

Figured I could cut him now and bank for double upgrades next week OR give him one last chance and if he flops he goes and danger comes in with a mid swinging down to forward.

Beezneez

I was thinking seriously about him or Sicily for McLean. However, with Kelly out, it gives me another look at Billings and Sicily. I traded Crouch for Coniglio with my only trade last week. I'm considering Kelly to McLean and Ryan to Crowden and next week either Sicily or Billings to Martin.

SC_Sixty6

Josh Kelly first 3 games has achieved 4 clearances! Just the 4! He is averaging 23 disposals, which shows he has carried his groin injury and isn't covering the ground as well. He averaged 29 disposals last year. His output is affected by cogs and will continue being affected. Jump off while you can, his form may take a while to come back especially if his OP goes beyond mild.

Keenbutclueless

Makes a lot of sense. Hate trading premiums, but sometimes there is a case for it.

Ahmad rubas

What's an OP?

Keenbutclueless

Osteitis Pubis.

Mystic Mac

Osteitis Pubis.. It's not good is what it is.

TommyC99

Cheers 66, will be going straight to dusty!

Carl

Who is the best beat to move him on for ?

Saundo

McCrae

Derek

i was going to go Lobb to Coniglio.

i do have the cash to go Kelly to Danger.

but can't do both.

I can wait and if kelly is no good next week get Danger then, after a bit of a price drop.

Liam

Lobb to Henry then danger to Kelly. That’s what I’m doing anyway.

Picking up danger at under 20% percent ownership, no gaz and had a enough time to recover from his injury.
If danger goes big next few weeks and you have him a captain you could fly up the ranks.

Just my opinion, Lobb to coniglio is still a strong trade.

Cheers

TOPHAWK1

I like it Liam. Get Danger in NOW. Don't fluff around worrying about a 20K price drop. I started with Danger, but if I had not, and had Kelly, I would trade Danger in without hesitation at the expense of Kelly. Danger is quite capable of going 200 this week against North Melbourne. Coaches who hesitate here now, could pay big time and ruin their seasons.

Crowboy94

Hey TopHawk do you think I should trade down Kelly to Cogs so I can upgrade Ryan to say Petracca?

Liam

I’m not tophawk, but will give some advice anyway.

I would only complete these trades if you are confident in these two being top 10 scorers in their positions, not just players that you can afford.

Crowboy94

Cogs will definitely be top 10.
Petracca is definitely going to average over 90 this year which should be enough to be top 10 in the FWD line.

TOPHAWK1

You can consider it, but Coniglio is no Dangerfield. No real guarantees Cogs finishing top 10 mid. He is injury prone. But that said, I have Petracca and picked him because he is close to really taking it to another level. Do it if you think Coniglio will deliver for you. Good luck mate!

Shake_n_Bake_

Against st kilda Hawk. I think its worth waiting a week im predicting a $30k drop just hoping Steele can do some sort of a negating role.

TOPHAWK1

I am not sure Shake. If Danger is in one of those moods, Steele will not stop him IMO. Ablett out means Danger will get more mid time and the cats need a win. The question you have to ask yourself is this: Would I be more nervous not going in with Danger or trading him in for Kelly right now? I know I would be a lot less nervous if I traded him in. Stuff the $30K. That's just how I see it mate. It's only my take on it though. Good luck in your leagues and the round Shake!

dave

I call your bluff 66. Ead flog

Michael

Hey guys! Really need some help with my team, currently have 29 trades (only trade was Ryan > Richards via Sicily), and currently have 138k leftover. Should I downgrade one of Brayshaw or LDU, or hold? Thanks!

DEF: Laird Hibberd Doedee Murray Finlayson Richards (Naughton Murphy)
MID: Titch Dusty Fyfe Bont Parker Cripps T.Kelly Holman (Brayshaw LDU Banfield)
RUCK: Gawn Nank (Olango)
FWD: Heeney Billings Smith Petracca Sicily Fritsch (Garlett Langon)

SC_Kev7

Nice team, Michael. Looking good. Hold both I reckon, let them slow burn on your bench until a really good rookie option comes along

Trade or no trade?

Need some help. Thinking of trading Brayshaw (via DPP) for Richards. Richards will obviously make more $$ in the very short term but is it worth a trade? I'm not going for overall, just winning a lucrative cash league.

Any views welcome. My gut says Brayshaw is a slow burn and while Richards might make more over the journey a trade is a trade.

Cheers

Patch

I've switched to trading Brayshaw after advocating to hold during the week. Personally want to lock in cash generation and then sit on trades for a few weeks

Trade or no trade

Interesting and thx for the reply. With Dom Barry confirmed out he will now catch the bullet instead of Brawshaw.ie same thinking but culling a non playing rookie for a playing rookie albeit it's always difficult culling one with a negative b.e like Barry but Richards seems worthwhile

JJJ

Richards, Henry or Crowden??

If I don't swing Siciliy bak i have 3 rookie forwards. My hands are tied aren't they for structures sake?

Steeeve

This question has been asked a million times (including by me about 100 — and again below). No one can say for sure. I'm going with Henry and hoping he holds his spot for at least a month. Richards is a little more expensive. That's literally my only reason. Oh and Crowden plays for Ross so bugger that.

Patch

If you've got 3 rooks onfield up forward I'd go with Richards mate.

red5

I'm keeping Ryan for the VC loophole

red5

Not much talk about Armitage.
Is he a keeper for the time being?

SC_Kev7

Two 70's and a 49 doesn't scream keeper material to me, red. Needs a decent score this to push his b.e down, average is 67 – b.e is 66

red5

thanks

Patch

Has been DROPPED sensationally. Would flick him asap Red!

red5

thanks
I'm thinking about a sideways swap to Paul Seedsman.

Randomcliche2

downgrade upgrade or hold one week are all valid s.t other priorities. May be back next week and be the stepping stone you and I selected.

BlueBaggerJosh

Ryan to Henry locked in.
Is Billings a hold or jump on McLean?

BlueBaggerJosh

Hogan also an option to free up some cash but feel like he'll slow down whilst McLean will be much more consistent

SirSamuel016

In my opinion, I think it's the team that's letting Billings down and not his style of play so I'd hold him for now. I don't see enough merit in trading him yet as you'd probably just be chasing points. Back him in and save a trade you might need later down the road.

TOPHAWK1

Hold Billings mate. He is a gun.

BadgerHoney7

hold, too many outs atm

theRealPod

Billings hasn't got a good record vs Cats so likely to bleed some cash. IF you're going to trade him out then now is the time.

Freddy

Kelly to Macrae (better for bye structure) or dusty (better player)

KSinny

Hold at least for a week

pod

Dusty

Sammy_14

Brayshaw to Richards and Ryan to Waterman Or Herny?

thoughts?

Steeeve

Missed the boat on waterman imo. When henry and richards lose the first score from their 3 week avgs they will shoot up in price… if they're still picked. Waterman also at risk of beinh squeezed out with JJK and Darling both playing.

Sammy_14

Herny, Crowden or Waterman for Ryan?

seen_burns

Toss of a coin, but prefer Henry

Corey

Henry

SirSamuel016

Fantastic write up Kev! Great message for the community too!

Making my first trade of the year this week trading out Ryan for Henry (Puts me up to 97.2K in the bank). I'm wanting to hold rookies like Naughton, Brayshaw and Dow at the moment to get as much cash out of them as possible, and as for some of my premos like Zorko, Billings and my gamble of Sandilands I've just got to back them in until injury do we part.

Best of luck this round everyone!

Andrew

Haven’t seen Henry or Crowden. Can someone fill me in on types of players they are?

Patch

Henry a defender playing above his size of 191cm in a key role. Crowden a smaller mid/forward – not a crumbing forward though – who's putting on a lot of pressure.

I'm bringing both in. Crowden has better job security, Henry will make cash faster.

Andrew

Thanks Patch

Steeeve

Henry picked up some nice possies in defence. Real athlete, smooth mover. Could get lock down roles and post low scores.

TOPHAWK1

Henry is a tall explosive player with a very good vertical leap. He has been named at full back for the cats. This might suit his natural ability as he may take plenty of intercept marks. Good rookie. Crowden I know a bit less about, more of a nuggety and in/under type player who can kick a goal or two. Reminds me a bit of Hayden Balantyne. Hope that helps.

Andrew

Yes it does thanks.

TRIGGA_HAPPY

Crowden loves a cuddle

Steeeve

I haven't been able to use the C loophole yet and won't be able to again with Murphy my only out and playing Friday night. Backing Danger (third week in a row as my C) with no Ablett he will surely turn it on!

Still losing sleep over whether I should bring in Henry or Ed Richards. Thinking Henry for now. What is everyone else doing for L Ryan?

Mystic Mac

Danger is due! Lock the C throw the key

pod

I with you Mac.. look out Saints

Defying_Madness

Even if I had Danger I would captain Titch, too hard to ignore his form

Russty_

I see your point mate, could be different this week though with Danger being at his new home with 99% crowd support.

BloodyFranklin

I reckon the weather is gonna wreak havoc on the weekend! ⛈

Cheers Kev for the awesome write up! Absolutely flooded the community with quality content once again. We are unworthy of your brain-knowledge 🧠

Best of luck to all you mad crabs! 🦀

BrownlowBoy

Perfect weather for Sloane tonight.

BloodyFranklin

You reckon he might hit his BE?

Derek

whats the weather going to do. i'm heading to melb to watch dogs v syd and the hawks v Melb games.

BloodyFranklin

Rain turds all over my team!.. I can smell it in the air.

???

Need HELP!!

Laird, Hibberd, bonner, Doedee, Finlayson, Murray ( Naughton, o'shea)

Martin, Mitchell, Fyfe, J.Kelly, cripps, T.Kelly, Holman, Banfield (Brayshaw, brodie, Barry)

Gawn, naitanui (Cameron)

Heeney, Billings, smith, petracca, ryan, fogarty ( ahern, Fritsch)

499k in bank with 27 trades left.

TRIGGA_HAPPY

Brodie to cogs with that much cash.
Then deal with Ryan as you please
Maybe up then loop fogarty tonight with Fritsch

???

what about kelly

SirSamuel016

I'd hold Kelly as he could only be out for a week and ideally you don't want to trade too much atm seeing you're three trades down. See how he pulls up next week and if he'll be out for another week or two then you can put him up to Danger who'll be much lower in price. I think you should just make one trade this week of Ryan to Henry or Crowden, your choice but I went with Henry as he's in fewer teams and is a small little point of difference.

???

thx i will consider it

Marty

??? to a name

KSinny

Ok guys here's my plan for Kelly, I'll hold him this week and Wait for Danger tob go down a bit then if Kelly is out for more than one more week I'll trade him straight up to Danger. Thoughts?

Defying_Madness

Think I am doing the same

Derek

that is what i'm thinkin' as well

Derek

will need danger to drop to $728k to just make the one trade next week. I'll have to get the slide rule out to see what that equates for danger to score this week.

Bazza

Think I'm gonna hold Billings, Brayshaw and my trades this week.
Get itchy fingers and usually pull the trade – gonna be more responsible this time round haha

Bazza

Actually scrap that… have Will Bodie doing nothing.
Trade him to Crowden or dpp to Waterman (or Henry)?

hedski

Dom Barry out, looks like I can vc Fyfe instead of Laird now.

hedski

Ah crap no I can't, if Fogarty drops a turd tonight I'll have to play Banfield, Laird it is.

Defying_Madness

Oh wow Mirra is finally getting a game as well

Shake_n_Bake_

Fyfe into Gawn

hedski

Laird into Danger for me.

Russty_

The weather is atrocious there tonight mate, maybe re-think Laird as VC?

hedski

Got no loops Russty.

pod

Fyfe or Parker VC? into Danger C

TOPHAWK1

Ahhhh scheize!! Another rook not going to make any cash this week. That's Murphy, ZGL, and now Barry earning $0.00. This is becoming a problem. Ryan is gone for Henry. Barry may turn into a Crowden now. Need the cash to keep rolling in. Still have 29 trades. Barry is a mediocre rookie in any case, so no great loss should he be back next week. Wont earn much cash. Time to ponder. Good luck this round Hedski!

hedski

You to Toppa

Gsal

Now with kelly out indefinite who would be the best bet to bring in –
Oliver
Gibbs
Sloane
Pendels
Franklin
Macrae
Llyons
Jselwood
Wines
Cripps

Finnius

I like oliver, gibbs and macrae from that lot. Would be going Macrae purely because he is a POD and his bye.

HallyMate

Started the season off with Zerrett, Crouch and Josh Kelly, been a ripper start to the season so far

Keenbutclueless

Yup. Same. And I added Lambert and Hibberd to that unfortunate mess. It’s all my own fault- I picked that flog Sicily as well. Was always going to end in tears.

scrotum

im hearing you hally merret zorko kelly crouch

scrotum

oh and hibbert

Defying_Madness

Armitage omitted for anyone who own him might be time to trade

pod