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PODCAST: FLYIN’ RYAN GROUNDED

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Many things in this world are bad.

Coriander. Stepping in dog poo. Seeing Liam Ryan go down with a long term injury. Losing to Lekdog. Patch’s audio in this podcast.

Lekdog is a late out of this weeks podcast, allowing Damo of cheat sheet fame to step into the void of signifance on debut and produce a best on ground performance.

Damo and Patch talk us through round four, namely in the sense of talking us out of any stupid, wild trades. We discuss Ryan, rookies, injuries to Ablett and Kreuzer and talk about why you shouldn’t trade a premium selection.

Strap yourself in and brace yourselves for 35 minutes of podcast-y goodness* to talk you through the week in Supercoach!

 

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Patch

Those of you quick on the button may have noticed I wrote Luke Ryan instead of Liam Ryan. Long time readers of mine will know I'm VERY BAD at first names, and you may remember me from such blunders as 'Not Knowing Which Crouch Is Which' and 'That Time I Thought Brad Hodge Played Football'.

Also – apologies again for the audio. Love you all, community. (Except you, Lek. You son of a-[the rest of this comment has been deleted by the administrator]

Russty_

Never had a nice Thai Green Curry Patch?…usually full of the coriander mate..that's what gives it it's tangy, lime , bar of soap flavour..lol, nice work Potch 😉

Mr.Brightside

There seems to be a lot of panicking knee jerk sideways and even premo trading, for the ones who have played SC over the years I'm sure you know what I'm talking about , remember trades are gold unless you have injuries, be conservative ,no rage trades

Mr Snrub

You've opened up my eager eyes

mzd

You approve of my Rockiff to Congilio? I certainly feel what you mention in your post. Felt Rockliff will have alot of sub par games. Had to be done.

CJudd3Votes

It's just the price I pay

Trevor

How many times have you won the round top score or overall prize by using your 'experienced supercoach' don't trade early strategy?

StevoRivo

So I have both Langdon & Ryan at F7 and F8. Too soon to trade in Higgins as he can swing mid with Garlett? Or play safe and opt for Crowden?

Patch

As I mention in the pod mate, not a fan of Higgins' job security at this stage. Would prefer Crowden or Henry.

StevoRivo

Thanks Patch. Loving the pods and comments. Crowden opens up the Garlett bench swing set. While his JS may not be ideal either, the trade brings in $.

Tyruddanaut

If you are trading in one, I would choose Henry

StevoRivo

No DPP with Henry though he’s going ok!

Trevor

Henry and Crowden both have fragile JS but at least if Crowden loses his job you can switch in Garlett in an emergency.
Smith, Henderson, Stanley, Mcarthy, Taylor all coming back into cats over next few weeks. Sure most are rucks and defenders but also forward likely under scott.

StevoRivo

Thanks Trevor. I could hold a week with no bench cover on the forward line and see how Higgins goes? But for flexibility and cash, the Crowden move this week seems best.

lord farquaad

should i be holding jeremy mcgovern? is he going to be a top 6 defender? seriously doubting it

r_calve

i might downgrade him to luke ryan

r_calve

is it worth switching out Merrett for j Lyons, they are about the same price and Lyons breakeven is 20 and Merrett's is 160

Tyruddanaut

Low breakevens don’t matter for premiums, only scoring

Patch

Amen mate.

THE SALTSHAKER

Fair question, youd have to look at his concussion. There were a few blokes last year that it effected their scoring afterwards/for some time. Youve got a few weeks to hold, then jump to Yeo who should lose a bit over next 2…

Shane

NO
Sideways trade buddy

haiku bob

I have Merrett, Armitage and Ryan.
Will probably go Ryan to Henry.

Options for Merrett & Armitage:
1. Downgrade either one of them for Crowden which would give me 400K in the kitty which I would look at using to upgrade whoever I don't trade in the first instance.
2. Upgrade or downgrade to Lyons (Suns) who looks to be a good POD which would still leave at least 200K.

Thanks guys.

Tyruddanaut

Be careful, Lyons has played, in the past three rounds, Carlton, North and Freo. Three easy teams!

Pitch72

Yeah, has the same stink of Brandon Matera last year.

Patch

Don't mind moving Armitage on mate. Probably prefer Coniglio but if you're after a major pod Lyons could work.

Sc_Wow

Lyons is a silly selection, the guy has averaged 90, 89 last two years. He’s shown he can string a few decent games together in the past, but also drops multiple games under 100 and will drop some 40s, 50s, 60s. He’s already dropped a 60 this year. Don’t chase the last 2 rounds of points, trade to a keeper or don’t trade at all

CJudd3Votes

Im as big a Kreuzer fan as there is but that bloody Ruckman curse has got me in all sorts. Someone please tell me I'm not going to regret holding the beautiful man

Tyruddanaut

Soon, brother, a 160 will appear

Patch

You're not going to regret holding him*

*you may regret holding him but you asked me nicely to tell you what you wanted to hear. I'm all-in on the Cox curse.

Ben

Nah he will average 110 from this game

Corey

How many trades should we have used by this stage of the season?

OldOcker

0

Crowboy94

Goodluck with that haha have to have all the luck in the world

SC_Sixty_Wow

4-6

Patch

Depends on your side. In a perfect world, none, but life ain't that pretty. If you've used three or less you'd be okay. Any more than that and I'd start thinking of ways to conserve trades.

Daniel Z

0-6.

All kidding aside, it depends on correctives and LTIs, which should be the majority of any trades you've done so far.
I typically set aside 6-8 trades for injuries, 2-3 for correctives, and the remainder for downgrading/upgrading my side.

Ben

Max 2

Neverweaken

Ive done 3 before this round. Have to do 2 this round and get in Titch. Didnt want to but not having him is killing me

Tyruddanaut

I am honestly considering Billings to McLean.
I know that 0.5% of people will agree with me, but it seems good.
• I chose BILLINGS because BILLINGS is a good player. His TEAM is absolutely rubbish and Carlton could beat them at the moment
• McLean has a new role, and we see that Bulldog mid/fwds can average 100
• I haven’t done any corrective trades on premiums, apart from Kreuzer to Nic Nat

TRIGGA_HAPPY

I reckon you can do a couple of siddies this year as this year is unlike most.

The rooks this year are going gang busters meaning it will be a lot easier to go up and one down to pick off the fallen.

Last year it was so hard to get some moo going but this years crop and showing us how it can be done …. moo away lads

Derek

Saints will come good.

It’s April. The sky is blue, the grounds are hard and the Saints are Slow.

They are not blessed with any speed.

Winter is coming.

I think Saints will do good once the games slow down, the run is out of the legs and there are more Stoppages.

TRIGGA_HAPPY

Only problem is saints have another 10 games at Ethiad where it is fast and dry under the roof.

pod

Hold Billings save a trade

Beezneez

I am thinking the same but am worried that Billings will start getting decent scores and will mean a wasted trade. On the other hand, Billing's BE is 158 this week and projected to be 138 the week after. This will mean a drop in price of about $70K whereas McLean's BE is 53 and he can be expected to rise in price. If you're going to do the trade, then this is the week. There are a couple of players I'd like in my team to balance it a bit more. I need to replace Ryan and the only way I can see to get the players in over the next week or two will involve a straight swap Billings to McLean so as not to lose any money.

THE SALTSHAKER

1. I can GAJ to Macrae, ryan to henry $400k next week Armo to Danger.
2. I can GAJ to Richards, swing finlayson to mid 6 bring Murray on ground D6 rather than bench + Ryan to McLean, $194k next week GAJ to Danger

Patch

I think I like option two but mainly because I want Macrae to be in my side and mine alone.

Would defer to other advice if it comes but McLean a lock for a top six forward, Macrae might slide later in the year with the amount of talent in the mids. Maybe. I dunno. Somebody please help me give this human advice.

pod

1. Macrae this week Danger next when price drops 40-50k

The Ranger

Option 2 for mine Shaker.
McLean is looking like a must have in a year when the fwd line was wide open at the start of the season.

THE SALTSHAKER

*mclean f5

THE SALTSHAKER

*forget this post

Filth Wizard

To trade A Brayshaw and Zerret for Crowden and McRae or hold?
Or just trade Ryan for Crowden or wait for Giles Langdon to reappear. Crowden looks like a late draft gem and can play.

Patch

Hold mate. You picked Zerrett for a reason, just as likely he averages 115 from here as Macrae does.

Can see merit (geddit?) in Brayshaw to Crowden or Ryan to Crowden however

Filth Wizard

Cheers patch great wit and smarts.

David C

I see what you did there.

Tyruddanaut

If you can trade Ryan and Zerrett, do that

Tristan

I have ryan and z.lagdon. tempted to go crowden and hogan/petracca. Out of hogan and petracca who eould you go?

Patch

I'm not brave enough to pick Hogan

Filth Wizard

If he plays up the ground a bit could be a risk reward option. He is a gun.

meph

Ok jockreynolds family need all the advice I can get. Currently ranked just inside the top 25k so not ideal at this stage. My team served up a disappointing 2164 last week after 2326 in round 2 and a 2162 in round 1. I have 28 trades left and 87k in the kitty. Onto my team;

Backs: Laird, Simpson, Ryan, Doedee, Finlayson, Murray (Naughton, Murphy)

Mids: Danger, Oliver, J Kelly, Fyfe, Cripps, T Kelly, Brayshaw, Holman (LDU, Banfield, Barry)

Rucks: Gawn, Nank (Olango)

Fwds: Heeney, Walters, Billings, Smith, Lobb, Fritsch (Venables, Ryan)

I think priority one is a premo mid but not sure the best course of action to make that happen. Im happy to take any and all advice, im a big boy I can handle it.

Thanking everyone that helps.

Patch

I'm not good at maths but an injured Lobb to Henry/Crowden plus the 87k would give you a the start to a decent warchest.

Probably not enough to go Brayshaw to anyone just yet but with an eye on Zach Merrett he could enter your side sub-500k very shortly.

Filth Wizard

Lobb seems like he might have injury issues this year. Trade him out, keep an eye out for eagle J Kenbedy he will be back soon and cheap at that price. Give him 2 games to get going.

Defying_Madness

Ryan down Lobb up?

Ando

Hey Community! Who has the best JS and scoring potential out of Crowden, Henry, Ratugolea, and Higgins?

I'm thinking Crowden has the best JS, with Henry obviously having the highest ceiling so far of any of them.

Corey

Henry

TRIGGA_HAPPY

How about richards?

Patch

Agree with your assessment there mate

Ando

Cheers Patch. Have you decided on who to bring in for Ryan?

THE SALTSHAKER

The Big Cat Rat looks the most likely 14d 8m 2goals 7ho vs nicnat, 76sc 84dt, he also got robbed first game imo. Fades from games but starts strong and good competitor looks better than some 1st Paddy and 2nd Scache high order draftpicks.

THE SALTSHAKER

Richards in def is the best trade imo, RatCat 2nd, not sold on henry

KSinny

Mate have some respect for the effort that Lek and Patch put in to bring us a Podcast in the first place.

GeneralConsensus

That's a relief about the podcast and don't feel obligated to 'contribute' to the comments.

Will

Community I still need help,
Walters or Mclean – I cant split them

pod

Walters higher ceiling

NoLanguage

Walters

BVB21

Maclean.

Walters could go back to forward line and spud it up.

NovemberFoxtrotIndia

Round 12 bye
Or
Round 14 bye
Which one suits you better?

ThePigruss

Walters

Patch

That's fair. We're a community first and foremost – if all some people want is a place to discuss we're more than happy to be that place.

How's your team going?

FLOG*SC_Sixty6*FLOG

u sir are an absolute flog.

Crowboy94

Okay have changed my mind.
Trade out Ryan and leaving Merrett as he will come good!

Northerner

Everybody is allowed early week rage trading to vent. That’s what the reverse trade button is for

BrownlowBoy

Don't know if anyone said this, but well done Damo, great debut!

Lekdog

Bloody beautiful wasnt he, im jealous

Trav

Guys thinking ablett and brayshaw or banfield to coniglio and michael walters. What do you think?

Tyruddanaut

Ablett and Brayshaw and it’s a good trade!

Scouser

Banfield plenty of cash to make still

BVB21

Don’t trade banfield yet. Good cash generation and JS

Sean

Will Ryan still increase in price even while he is out?

Defying_Madness

???

SW Roosters XXX

Of course he does – he should be between 400k to 500k by the time he returns in Rd 14 – providing he has health insurance

Derek

No mate.

He has to play games to increase in value.

Time to trade. Can’t hold him for 12 weeks

Moosehead

Derek. If you had Ryan, would you go for Crowden, Henry or wait for Higgins to see how he goes. Since none of them have great JS, would it be smarter to wait despite not having a forward bench?

Simo

Players only move after their 3rd game and each game they play after that. If they beat their BE (break even) they will go up. If they don’t beat their BE they will go down. In the unlikely event they hit their BE, they won’t move. So someone with a high BE is likely to be cheaper after the next few games they play (like Z Merrett who I am holding grr) and someone with a negative BE or less than what they have been averaging, still has cash to make for you.

Mal

Got McGovern and zerret, after a few rage trades and reversing, I’m keeping zerret and looking at restructuring, thoughts on

McGovern > Richards (4 backline rookies)
Brayshaw > titch (zerret becomes m6)

Gives me more points per week and stems $ bleeding.

DavidSA

Bleeding cash?
Question – did you start with them for stepping stone purposes or as a premo?
Are they injured?
It's a long season and many good-great players can have a purple patch and average 110+ over 5 played.

Richard

Armitage OUT Crowden IN
Ryan OUT Henry IN
What are your thoughts on these trades community

Tyruddanaut

I’m not too keen on Crowden, I’d prefer possibly Higgins (shaky JS) or Rategoulia, but it’s your choice

TRIGGA_HAPPY

One up one down unless you are building a war chest to grab an uber premo.

But with the money gained from trading armo you could go Ryan up to a premo fwd.

gator59

Yes and pocket some cash

Tyruddanaut

For everyone saying that Henry has poor JS, remember he just went up 2 spots in the best 22, with 3 injuries on Sunday and Duncan returning. He should be around 19/20th, so there has to be three or four players coming in now for him to be removed

SW Roosters XXX

get your point but not sure that is how selection works mate……
More factors come into than that……

Tyruddanaut

I’m just saying, there is one out in each line, back, mid and forward. When Taylor returns, he’ll move back, Gregson will be removed and Ratogolea will be moved to a permanent forward. In comes Smith to fix that. Selwood will be moved to a midfield position and Menegola will also move forward.
Pretty much the entire line gets moved forward to fill these positions.

Rabbits16

What factors will come into his selection? I am really keen to know as i'm considering Henry in for the injured Ryan?

Holty

True. I would be more looking at the fact he was selected for rd1, only missed rd2 due to a concussion from rd 1 and was rushed straight back for rd3. They obviously rate the kid and he hasnt done anything on the field to suggest otherwise.

hedski

My thoughts exactly Holty.

THE SALTSHAKER

yeah they do early rnd draft pick last year, big talk on him coming internally if the SC podcast is to be believed.

Dont think key position rookies are the best sc wise though. Thats what folks were saying about Naughton. I like the Big Cat Rat, best new bigman rookie ive seen in yonks ahead of Rocca or Barry Hall when they started, very impressive, good hands on a lead.

14d 8m, 2 goals 7ho vs NicNat

What_Bear

Hi Guys,

Can't decide what trades to do

Option 1 – Lobb to any forward (Franklin, Walters, McLean, Smith) , Ryan to Richards (Via DPP)

Option 2 – Lobb to Crowden and Ryan to Tom Mitchell, 2 playing rookies in the forward line (Fritsch and Garlett)

Thanks in advance

Tyruddanaut

Lobb is only out for one week, hold. But change Ryan to Richards either way

David C

Playing 2 rooks in the forward line is not ideal but you have to get Mitchell, could be the top scoring player this year.

Dice

Bloody stuck here – any thoughts on what to do.

J. McGovern to E. Richards and D. Armitage to T. Mitchell worth it??
I'm trying to hold trades as last year I ran out.

I really want to hold McGovern but he's not getting enough footy

Swans2012

I'm holding…..just…. last year he played a bit more mobile even pinch hitting in the ruck but this year with dog dog and Lycett back is more fixed in the defense, I still think that's where he scores best so worth another couple weeks….it only takes a 140 for that average to be back to respectable….although I've got t Mitchell so not dealing with that problem!

Dice

3 marks, 0 tackles, think with Sheppard rebounding more he's taking all the points.
With 3 games he's avg less than Finlayson, Bonner and Doedee, and par with Murray.
I'm RAGING the prick

Mal

Doing the same thing although I’m going Brayshaw to titch

Swans2012

I have some cash so Ryan out gives me an opportunity I think,

Ryan to Henry,
Brayshaw to (with a bit of swing) anyone on any line to $483k

im playing only the good three defensive rooks on field (Murray, finlayson, and doedee), the two reliable mid rooks (kelly and Holman), and two forward rooks (Frits and garlett or English).
I think it's the forward rookies that are bleeding the most points so I'm seriously considering hogan, high risk/high reward, up the ground a bit, I think he might be the one……

Open to suggestions though, also considering the other l Ryan although it means finlayson is wasted on The mid bench and I'm still playing a pair of spud forward rookies…

Interested in thoughts..

The Ranger

In a similar situation Swans and I certainly think the fwd line is the one to look at first this year as we have some good rookies in the mids and def.

Swans2012

Yep I'm locking in a forward upgrade, most likely hulk I'd imagine

Derek

Hogan is now $438k.

If he was still $380k he would be in my team to replace Lobb.

But $438k is starting to be a keeper?

Dees have Hawks and Tigers next two, both big pressure teams, Hogan and his size might be perfect for there midfield. After that they have a very easy run, plenty of goals maybe.

I don’t think he will have any bad scores.

Ok, I don’t know. It’s just too hard…… <walks away>

Tyruddanaut

Lobb is only out for one week maximum. Hold

Derek

It looked pretty bad. No news, was thinking the worst for him

Swans2012

Thanks derek yeah it's tough, I think I'll take a punt on him and ride the rollercoaster for a month or two and see what happens. Seems a chance to average 95+ to me from here out…..

Derek

here Is a hypothetical for you.

I…… sorry, a friend of mine, has Venables, Ryan and Fritsch at D6, D7 & D8 and $180k in bank.

Rest of his forward line is Heeney, Billings, Devon, Petracca & Lobb.

Would you trade Fritsch BE -18, to a $102k rookie do you could trade Ryan to Hogan?

Can’t use Venables only $140k.

Could also go Murray to a rookie to get cash?

Not that my friend would do it, I don’t think….

Swans2012

It's tempting, gives you an em loophole at f6 while lobb recovers as well, but gee it is throwing caution to the wind….plenty more cash to make out of fritz, but I think we'll have plenty of $$$ this year for a change with smith, petracca and coniglio as cheap keepers and the rookies on a tear! It would be completely unlike you, ahem, your friend, though to do such a thing

Derek

I think my friend was just bored

Tyruddanaut

Devon Smith is still under that price. Top ten forward for sure.
Luke Ryan looks set to go and averages 104 in a compelling Fremantle side.
Mitch Wallis offer some a bit of risk/reward gaining 107 if one game
Charlie Curnow plays like a key forward in a bad team but scores like a general forward in a good team

Swans2012

Thanks ty, already have dev, yeah I'm tossing up curnow and hogan, I think hoges fits the age bracket better though, wallis is on my burn man list and Ryan like you say looks the goods, but in the end I'd be playing say fritz and Ryan or hogan and finlayson, I think the latter duo scores better…..

The Ranger

Wallis is tempting with Libba out.

Swans2012

Or is dahlhouse tempting? Or does McLean become more of a lock? I hate trying to pick a bulldog…….

The Ranger

Yeah spot on Swans, they have so many small mid/fwd types its hard to pick which one will be the most consistent.

TommyC99

Which rookie should i get in: Crowden, Henry, Rats, Richards

and who should make way: Dow, Brayshaw, Keeffe, Ryan

I know ryan is out for a while, but since i have english at R3, like the option of ryan as a loophole. (Finalayson is in defence and keeffe is in defence)

Simo

Keefe because he isn’t playing

Derek

Neither is Ryan. Can make some cash from Ryan, none from Keeffe.

Keeffe more chance of playing in next 12 weeks than Ryan

TommyC99

So you would trade ryan before keeffe?

Derek

Yes. It puts $70 in your bank.

Keeffe has DPP, lets you swing players across lines when you trade, plus he is a massive chance to play with Lobb going down

Tyruddanaut

Ryan and Dow for Richards and Henry

Scouser

Like the loophole option with Ryan when you have English at r3 looks like his is is good for now so I'd be taking advantage of that for as long as it lasts and serves your team well.

I'd be looking at Richards and Henry personally and reckon the top priced rookies have to go as they're just not going to earn the $$ you need based on performances so far, Keefe might be an in also this week.

Angus

Trading out GAJ and Ryan this week, should I bring in Devon Smith and Patty Cripps as I have the cash to do so, or save the cash and bring in Cripps/Parker and Henry/Crowden?

Tyruddanaut

Definitely the first option. Smith is looking as a top ten forward and so is Cripps who manages a 92 with a shocking effort

cal_houn12

I've managed to save 250k in the bank due to necessary corrective trades, meaning I could use that money to get rid of Liam Ryan straight up to a Jesse Hogan or Charlie Curnow, questioning if they both are the real deal though, and should maybe be conservative in bringing in Henry to build the bank more?

Blueth

Curnow.
Won't let you down

Tyruddanaut

He plays similarly to a key forward. I think he might let you down on the wrong weeks

cal_houn12

Thats my thoughts with both of them… Generally avoid key forwards as a rule but could be a game changing play

Derek

Ryan to Hogan…. that might be in the running for the best trade you will make this year

DavidSA

I ate today and water is wet. Wonder if the sun will go down today?

zzzzzz

i remember the good old days when people used to read the comments and not ask the same question over and over again

ZerrettForPM

some people fast on wednesdays.

BadgerHoney7

Team currently:

Money in bank: 103,700 – Trades used: 4

Laird, Shaw, Sicily, Bonner, Doedee, Finlayson – Murray, Murphy

Danger, Dusty, Titch, Fyfe, Cripps, JOM, Kelly, Holman – Brayshaw, Barry, Banfield

Gawn, Nic Nat – Olango

Billings, Heeney, Walters, Dev Smith, Christensen, Henry – Fritsch, Garlett

Really happy that I started with Nic Nat, probably best decision yet this year. Was happy with Jaegers performance on the weekend and I feel like he can possibly provided that most weeks. Traded out Ryan this week to Henry (Henry on the bubble so had to). Most worried about at the moment is Brayshaw and the fact I've used 4 trades so far, will have to hold trading for a couple then downgrade Brayshaw and probably upgrade someone like Christensen.

Derek

Nothing to do this week

Yeahnahyeah

got a very similar team, i think that brayshaw will come good, more worried about barry
also surely more attention starts going to tommy mitchell so jaeger can start racking up more pill?!?!?

Sc_Wow

teams have already tried going to Tich, he’s a jet

David C

Barry probably gets dropped this week.

THE SALTSHAKER

frrk good side dude, Brayshaw to Richards swing Finlay to mid, bring Murray on ground 👍

GAZ

Def: Laird, Hurley, Hibberd, Finlayson, Murray, Doedee (Murphy, Naughton)
Mid: Danger, Titch, Zorko, Kelly, Fyfe, Brayshaw, Holman, Kelly (Barry, Brown, Banfield)
Ruck: Kreuzer , Gawn (Olango)
Fwd: Heeney, Billings, Mundy , D Smith, Fritsch, Ryan (Giles Langdon, Garlett)
Any Advice 30 trades still
45K BANK

Derek

You’re good.

Just Ryan to a bubble boy this week

Tyruddanaut

Just the one trade to get Ryan out

Bob

Do I go
1. Ryan to Richards via garlett and finlaysons dpp and field Richards
2. Ryan to J.Henry and field banfield or brayshaw

JugHead

Haven't heard much chat about Coffield. Only one game so far of course, but his def/mid dpp would form a nice swing with Finlayson or O'Connor. Any thoughts on how he goes from here and his JS?

Derek

Next weeks discussion when he is on bubble

zzzzzz

Only one game so far

Rick Grimes

I might go early on him. Was one of their best, surely keeps his spot for an extended run.

TheGreatBozza

Who do we think are the best rookie options out of the following:

Richards
Higgins
Crowden
Henry
Coffield

I've got Sicily at D3 so I'm leaning towards swinging Ryan > Richards, giving me some flexibility in my FWD line (having both Giles-Langdon and Ryan out long term)

seen_burns

Heard something about Giles-Langdon possibly coming back next week

Derek

The rucks are a good point. There are some teams ruck divisions are not at AFL standard, either by choice or injuries. Cats, Dogs, Port, swans, GWS.

So is a ruck does well, or even the midfield at their feet, just have a look at who they have played.

Speaking of Rucks and fixtures, have a look at Nanks next 6 opponents. If he can get through those games ok, he is the real deal and worth looking at when he gets a run of easier games.

I don’t worry about fixtures as much as I used to. The good players seem to go better against harder teams and are fixture proof. But it is still important to look back at who they have played and why did they do well prior to getting them in

Sc_Wow

Not even so much fixture wise, but what the players do in those games, disposal wise numbers efficiently, tackling, contested possessions. Is that within their norm or is it an extreme out outlier

Derek

also They might have kicked the winning goal. Although not as scaled as it once was

THE SALTSHAKER

Fixtures are important, clearly… theres definately teams that are harder to score against. Has you bloke got Rance or Buddy this week? North seem like an easy beat team but Ben Jacobs is avg 10 tackles a game as a tagger and its effecting scoring. Cripps should cop it this week. Holmans doing some run with.

Yeah i think certain premos def play well regardless, its more for your breakouts, smokies, pods and capt choices. You should still only pick Premos you think will finish top 6 in def, 8mid, 2 ruck, 6fwds. When to get them or who to keep say JOM or Armo then fixtures ahead is def a solid guide when splitting hairs.

PJ King

Yes! Coriander. Finally, someone who agrees with me!

zzzzzz

what are your thoughts on cilantro?

PJ King

I think referring to it as coriander is very confusing. Why not just come up with a different name? Maybe Dangerfield would be a better name for it?

Nuggety

Smells like cat wee.. after the age of 35 I began to find it ok though..

Caleb

What to do with d. Fogarty…? Will he get a game again soon or not as lynch is back. Already traded Ryan to Henry this week.

Russty_

Wait and see I guess..Crowden?..I went Fog to Ryan last week, that was a good move!

Sc_Wow

Still a great C option if you have a decent VC

Sc_Wow

Feel free to call me in to guest on your podcast

go_away

Great that's all we need…

Sc_Wow

I'm those that want to get better wouldn't mind

SW Roosters XXX

What was it you said about grammar??

Buster

Don't think I'll have time to listen to you on the podcast this week WoW, My mother in law has a croquet tournament on

Sc_Wow

Understandable buster

Fred

thas the nicest thing you have ever said 66/wow/maverick

Spirok

I'm not certain he knows for sure whether Buster is taking the pi55 Freddy.

Give the old girl all our best Buster

Sana

Liam Ryan, you are now my 'Olango' loop. Thankyou for your services.

SC_Donkey

Thanks Patch even without Lekdog, still did the podcast for the community. Really like what you and the crew have done during these dark days. The father of fantasy have abandon us Completely this year.
Keep your chin up fellas, like they say "Rome wasn't built in a day", you fellas are doing an awesome job to keep this community going.

Valens_FC

Fully agree. Sniping from the sidelines is the soft option. Stepping up for the community is a selfless and brave path. Keep up the great work fellas.

jordanandeddie

Remember when there were no trolls or excess negativity in these comments? And everyone was happy to provide constructive feedback, instead of vitriol and malice? Thanks to all who still maintain this attitude, and to Patch, Lek and the crew for all their hard work! I think we all need to take a step back, a deep breath, and remember, its Supercoach.
Still though, it has been one of those years where I started with Crouch, Ablett and Crozier… and yet somehow remain in top 3%

neil demons delight

Trev stopped all this boring shik on his sight very easily by allowing us to report them Three reports gone .NEVER any problems there fellas . I don't mind wow /66 insights but there are plenty as talented here without the crap GET BACK TO THE GAME DIALOGUE

The underdogs

Who is the better choice mclean, hogan, one of the curnows

Crowboy94

McLean

BVB21

Maclean. He is the beneficiary of Liberatore injury

joe

maybe mclean and even he has issues never been a great scorer over the years heeney 4 me

JackDee

I like McLean but the Dogs don't look great. He is probably the safe choice based on previous years scoring. Hogan is the one who might break out and be huge. Dees look good and his role is a ripper for supercoach. I wouldn't worry too much about Viney and McDonald returning Melbourne are obviously committed to putting Hogan wherever he can impact the play.

Curnows can play but I personally think it's a big ask for them in the Carlton team as things are now. Maybe a season early here

pod

If Hogan stays in his current role he will be a top 6-8 fwd. He is not an easy match up, he is a man mountain who moves quite well considering, and loves a goal. The only doubt is will Viney push him out when he returns. I don't think Goodwin will do that as Hoges is on fire and loving his footy atm.

JackDee

We've seen this role before for a key forward. Nick Riewoldt and Richo. They churned out great scores doing it. Melbourne look to be doing this. Every time a tagger goes to a mid such as Petracca or even Oliver last week they send that bloke forward and Hogan heads up the ground.

Maverick_

I apologise for this negativity but Jesus Christ people seriously need to start reading the thread & previous comments before asking your questions. The what to do with Liam Ryan questions been asked 100 times. Stop being so lazy and scroll down and have a Read. I have lobb and Ryan but u don’t see me asking because I will just read the other 100 people’s comments. Sorry for the rant but it’s needs to be said. I love the community, reading people’s thoughts & offering my opinions but we just need to cut out the lazyness

zzzzzz

No need for an apology you are right on the money! Next week there will be the same amount of repeated questions about "do I bring in Higgins"

scrotum

Unlike your good self , some people have a busy life and are not pre- occupied with all the previous thoughts.
This way someone could leave a question and when a spare moment arises go back and check responses.

Defying_Madness

Walters, Gray or McLean as a replacement for Lobb?
Or should I just go with a cheaper midpricer such as Hogan or Curnow.
Cheers community

Maverick_

Same situation and leaning to curnow. But I do have McLean he will go top 8 I hope, Get on!

Derek

McLean going well at the expense of the Bont.

The Bont attended 3 centre squares on weekend, one as the ruck.

Soon it will be worked out that he belongs in the guts

pod

Agree Derek. If the Dogs are keen to get back to near their best they need The Bont in the guts a lot more. Also Dahl had good mid time against the Bombers and performed like we know he can, just needed a goal or two to be a huge score. After the Dogs poor start, followed by the win on the weekend, I think we'll see both Dahl & Bont in the middle more often.

Starky

Been looking at the thread and I really appreciate the insightful comments and the time people are taking to help the community.
Could we all just look to be positive in our comments as I feel it would help everybody.
I'll give 2 comments from an earlier post as an example:
'1. A good comment there by Damo about looking at why certain players score points at any given time' – Great point and helpful for future podcasts
2. Patch is one of those guys as his response is ‘mmm’ and quickly moved onto a blabbering about other players scoring well – Just a really unnecessary comment with no value other than insulting someone.

I feel it would help everybody if we didn't take it to a personal place and we just commented on the football. Fairplay to Patch and Lekdog for their time and effort and not getting drawn into the negatives.

Sc_Wow

Think you missed the point of that comment. I really enjoyed where Damo was coming from, and was hoping that sort of analysis was going to continue because it’s constructive. I hope for more of it in the future, instead of just listening about players scoring points, doesn’t add much

scrotum

Cant believe some think higgins has no job security ? the kid is a jet and will turn into a vital cog sooner rather than later, havent seen the confidence displayed since buddie arrived on the scene, come half way mark the kid will be dux of 2018 rookies

ZerrettForPM

It's a premiership side. You can't expect a rookie to make it in the 22 every week.

neil demons delight

Couldn't agree more Wrote an article on FSC naming him as the stand out cant see any reason to change a gun in next week

scrotum

wtf would i know, dropped

TommyC99

Crowden or Henry? Henry has shown to be a better potential scorer, but i like Crowden's DPP and JS better, and if he gets dropped, will prove to be a better loophole. Would love to hear your thoughts guys!

Derek

I think Crowden is our man for this week

OldOcker

Would anybody like the "Old Ocker" to do a You Tube talk on stats and the community questions?
If so please like this comment and I will do one tonight for tomorrow if there are enough likes.
Cheers COMMUNITY and keep it friendly.

OldOcker

Unfortunately Jock, Higgo and Crouching are not here this year.
THIS does not mean the teachings of these great men go out the window.
REFLECT on the teachings of the past that made you better people today than you were yesterday.
I will post the link to the Video RIGHT HERE.
if I get enough likes and decide to do it.

Let's see who takes notice and ask me some genuine questions?
I will address the most common.
Cheers.

pod

YES OldOcker please proceed and thank you in advance.

Sc_Wow

Go for it mate interested to see if someone can post something constructive

belly button fluff

Do we ask question here or in the Youtube channel?

OldOcker

ASK now if you want it answered tonight.
Go for it. I will watch this thread until after dinner and do the recording.
Cheers.

belly button fluff

Thanks so much OO 😀 I asked this further down the thread but anyway I'll ask here as well.
Haven't had a chance to catch gold coast games. What is Jack Martin doing or where is he playing on field? Is he just going to be another Branden Matera? or has he got something more to offer?
I thought there was so much promis from him in the past and he is hitting that age of breakout. So i was ever so lightly considering him. But like I said I haven't had a chance to watch him in action, which I like to do.
Actually I should go and watch a replay lol.

belly button fluff

Actually I suppose Robbie Gray isn't much more with the same stupid bye. Answered my own dumb question lol.

Derek

He might not be a good C option, I might look at just sticking the VC on him instead

seen_burns

Is this smart or dumb, I have Liam Ryan injured, Nic Nat in the ruck and Olango on the ruck bench, thinking I trade in Tim English (who already had his price rise) for cover for Nic Nat just incase he gets rested at some point but English to make maybe another 100k, but also losing 80k with the trade but still keeping a captaincy loophole of Liam Ryan who can come back later in the year. Smart or dumb?

Derek

Whether English makes $100k or $200k you won’t be able to free up the cash without making another trade, therefore 2 trades wasted and $400k on the bench.

I like your thinking, but not a great idea.

If you had Haynes DPP already at R3, you can get English at F6 to cover two lines.

seen_burns

How about maybe trading Ryan to English?

redherringfc

I like the idea of holding Ryan as a loophole option. It’s a long time to hold, but you could trade him out when you need.

Something i can look into to.

English is ruck/forward isn’t he? Do you have a link? few and far between.

AB13

I have 26 trades left, 2 this week and 432K in the bank.

Def: Laird, Hibberd, Sicily, Bonner, Doedee, FInlayson, Murray, Mihocek

Mid: Titch, Dusty, Oliver, Merrett, Coniglio, Jaeger, T.Kelly, Holman, Brayshaw (Fre), O'connor, Brown

Ruck: Gawn, Nic Nat and Olango.

FWD: Heeney, Smith (Ess), Petracca, Christensen, Stephenson, Fritsch, Rayner, Fogarty

– Do I downgrade Brayshaw to Crowden, pocket an extra 100K with a bigger upside and a significantly lower BE?

– And then go Rayner to Buddy?

Any ideas?

pod

With $432k in the bank, I would trade Rayner for Crowley, then JOM to Danger. Bang Bang.

pod

*Crowden

TBrab

28 Trades & $392k in the bank.

Def: Laird, Hurley, Savage, Doedee, Finlayson, Murray (Bonner, Milhocek)
Mid: Dusty, Fyfe, Pendles, Cripps, Coniglio, Kelly, Brayshaw, Holman (Dow, H Clark, D Barry)
Ruc: Gawn, Nankervis (D Cameron)
Fwd: Franklin, Walters, Billings, Petracca, Ryan, Fritsch (J Garlett, Switkowski)

Need to shift Ryan (Obviously) but not sure who to or what other move to make if any???

Any ideas would be greatly appreciated

Derek

Can you go Ryan to rookie and Brayshaw to Tmitch?

TBrab

Hey Derek, if I go Brayshaw to Tmitch it leaves me with $113,200 so I would have another non-playing rookie on the forward bench. But on the plus side I would have Titch….

Derek

So close……

Derek

Wilson is close to a game. dPP for $106 😉

TBrab

Thanks Derek, I’ve brought in Titch and Wilson. 👍🏼

SC_Donkey

C'mon fellas quit it already, this childish behavior is gone far enough. Fine SC_Sixty6 and SC_Wow you fellas are good at this game. But please be Humble about it, no need to carry on like kids.

Don't have to force anyone to take your advice, if no one wants to take your advice, then let it be their own mistakes, they'll learn from it.

Please come back when you have won the $50K until then. Effing shut it already.

THE SALTSHAKER

Dont know what the story is but this site is definitely carrying some trolls. They have been starting fights, looking for niggles, having a dig at some commentors post, at the persons advice etc it was just random

But this seems to have carried on directly and making multiple accounts to look like they have support. Posts with the person. Theyre trolling in the username. Look im not sure why? right or wrong? maybe these guys are rubbing folks wrong with the assuredness of their opinion?

Then again these trolls were just hanging shit on others teams etc without posting their own etc
Multiple accounts is trolling.
Its all the same feel/vibe to it. Theyre kids.

To 66 and WoW you know the wrinkles, do not feed the trolls….if theres some advice to be had, report it, leave it t admins.
Furthermore SC is frrkn bingo on roids. If you have solid/sound reasoning then apply it, will speak for itself.

Admin, remove block, delete the nonsense. Its no good being up, regulars,long timers get shitty. For all u know it could be the competition looking to make things ugly now that the old stalwarts have moved on? Shut it down.

The community, see something you dont like report it.

To the trolls, its clear your nuts dont touch ya undies….but why troll Jockreynolds? when hands down the best trolling to be had is on Twitch…nothing better than hangin shit, being a serial pest in real time 🙂🎮🎮🎮🎮 theyre very serious about their subs they wont even remove you/block in the hope youll still sub. Its quite sad really. Youll love it.

Mystic Mac

It's a real shame this page has turned into an episode of Keeping up with the Kardashians.. Can't we all just get along haha

OldOcker

Well said.
Read my post a couple of lines above and we will try and solve the problem.

Lekdog

ELE Eveybody Love Everybody

Bells

It's that time of year again; giving up on my midpricer mistakes time !
I'm thinking of going Armitage to Ed Richards via Finnlayson.
Plus Lobb to Walters – I don't trust the knee and get Walters before he goes up more. Am I chasing points? Giving up on Lobb too easy?
Appreciate a thumbs up if you like it, or tell me why if you don't.