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HEROES, VILLAINS AND THE DAMNED

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The full moon is upon us and the Teen Wolf has well and truly arisen.  

Nathaniel Fyfe was simply irresistible for Fremantle on Saturday and must be strongly considered as a captaincy option every time the Dockers play in Perth.

The SuperCoach beast looked like the Fyfe of old yesterday, you know, the one who averaged 120+ in consecutive seasons.

If he keeps his current form going, he will challenge Danger, Dusty and TMitch for the number one SC scorer of 2018.

The Heroes

The perfect physical specimen that is Nat Fyfe (160 SC) finished with elite stats of 38 possessions, eight tackles, 24 contested possessions and 14 clearances in Freo’s convincing win over the Suns. He looked ominous last week and the scary thing is he’s only just starting to hit his straps. Get on board now.  Tom Mitchell (149 SC) continued his exceptional 2018 form with another 40+ touch match. He finished with 42 disposals, eight tackles and 12 clearances and remains by far the game’s best ball magnet.

Brodie Grundy (154 SC) proved he can go big even with Mason Cox in the Magpies’ side. He finished with 25 possessions, 32 hit outs and eight tackles in a standout ruck performance. Teammate Steele Sidebottom (134 SC) and opponent Marc Murphy (127 SC) also found plenty of pill in the middle.

If you’re after a good point of difference, then consider Jarryd Lyons (138 SC) and Jack McRae (131 SC) in the midfield. The pair are leading the Suns and Dogs’ onball brigades at the minute and look set to continue their high output.

Other significant scores: Jon Patton (159 SC), Callum Sinclair (152 SC), Lachie Hunter (142 SC), Bailey Williams (139 SC), Sam Gray (132 SC), Jared Polec (130 SC), Jesse Hogan (125 SC).

The Villains

Bloody hell, what in earth happened to Elliott Yeo (27 SC)? In a bizarre game, he barely touched the ball in the first three quarters, before having an impact for the Eagles late when the match was on the line and earning almost all of his 27 points in the final term.

Contested bulls Clayton Oliver (75 SC), Rory Sloane (78 SC), Joel Selwood (78 SC) and Lachie Neale (77 SC) were all quiet after receiving some extra attention in the midfield, while Max Gawn got the better of big man Todd Goldstein (57 SC).

Tom Lynch (67 SC) failed to replicate last week’s heroics, while Jack Billings (54 SC) reflected his side’s poor performance. Heath Shaw (69 SC) was always going to taper off at some point while teammate Tim Taranto (49 SC) could be a classic mid-price trap.

Lachie Whitfield (64 SC) was also touched up by Sydney which hurt those that started him as a point of difference.

The Redeemers

Brisbane tall Stefan Martin (154 SC) produced a herculean effort against a Port Adelaide side lacking a genuine ruckman. He finished with 30 disposals, 14 of them contested, seven marks, seven tackles and a massive 49 hit outs.  

Forward pair Luke Dahlhaus (113 SC) and Sam Menegola (128 SC) both were exceptional after lacklustre starts to the season.

 

The Prodigies

Collingwood half back Sam Murray (95 SC) was the pick of the rookies as he cemented his long-term job security with a brilliant performance for the Pies, with his speed and run-and-carry a standout.  Geelong defender Jack Henry (93 SC) proved to be the surprise packet, while teammate Tim Kelly (90 SC) didn’t disappointed yet again.

West Coast excitement machine Liam Ryan (88 SC) dazzled again but come off late with an ankle injury. Adelaide’s Tom Doedee (85 SC) looked at home in defence again, as did Gold Coast hardnut Nick Holman (82 SC) in the midfield.

Bulldog Ed Richards (81 SC) looks to have a bright future in defence and is on the bubble this week, while Giant Jeremy Finlayson (77 SC) got the job done again. Tim English (76 SC) was better after having a down match last week, while aggressive Geelong forward Esava Ratogalea (74 SC) looked really good for the Cats in their loss to the Eagles.

There were a host of other rookies that perform well including Jack Waterman (72 SC), Mitch Crowden (72 SC), Lachlan Fogarty(70 SC), Jarrod Garlett (69 SC), Bailey Banfield (69 SC), Nick Coffield (66 SC), Lachlan Murphy (63 SC), Cameron Rayner (63 SC) and Jack Higgins (63 SC).

Other rookie scores: Bayley Fritsch (59 SC), Harry Morrison (54 SC), Adam Cera (53 SC), Paddy Dowe (49 SC), Will Rioli (40 Sc), Dom Barry (39 SC), Jaidyn Stephenson (33 SC), Andrew Brayshaw (32 SC), Daniel Venables (23 SC), Cameron Polson (16 SC).

The Damned

Gary Ablett (92 SC) was flying before he pinged a hamstring early in the last term against West Coast. Will provide the ideal launching pad for his owners to upgrade to Patrick Dangerfield (100 SC), who was quiet by his standards.

Patch’s homeboy Zach Merrett dropped a few turds in our sides – round one with the concussion, and now round three with an insipid performance. Do we trade him? Probably not but boy will there be people wanting to.

How did you go this round, community?

 

 


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ATeam12345

Hopefully get to hold Ablett as he'll be a massive POD

Sc_Wow

Yeah you’ll probably be one of a very select few that wants to hold 600k on the bench for 3/4 weeks. At least he will be back in time for that round 14 bye

Marcus

You will lose too many points during the 8+ weeks he will be out due to soft tissue injuries this year! I’d trade to a more consistent player

Ahmad rubas

Any specify taggers people should watch out for when putting the VC or C on a premo midfielder. I'm hearing a lot about Ben Jacobs from the community so far anyone else in particular to look out for or just jacobs?

JJJ

Bailey Banfield has tagged Merret and Hall out of games

Harry

Ben Jacobs, avoid trading in premium's playing North that week

Stirlsy

Jacobs is by far the best tagger, Scooter can tag for cats if needed

BigShaq

Definitely be Ben Jacobs has been the standout tagger so far this year did great jobs on Lyons, Ross and Oliver so far. While hurting them the other way.

Northerner

The other one who does a job is Hutchings from the Eagles. He did a good job on Danger up till half time and then not sure what happened. Structures changed a lot in the third quarter. Great game. Both teams could take away a lot given Geelong’s injuries. If Ablett hadn’t gone down, probably see a different result.

LEN

Thanks again! This site has been helping play in a league I hardly watch but want to make the top 8 this year, for once in my league of all Australians and I am the only Canadian with one Kiwi.

AlbertonOval

Good luck Len, hope you're enjoying the cut and thrust of AFL mate

Bald&theBeautiful

Decided Kreuzer has to go – too expensive for what he's putting out (all with that injury cloud hanging around). I also really wanted to take a punt on Blakely this season, but after a less than stellar start it's time to make room for a proven performer.

Kreuzer to NicNat
Blakely to MacRae – how the 2nd ranked player overall only has 2% ownership absolutely boggles my mind. Who cares if he's not DPP anymore, he's a jet.

John

Why anyone would trade Kreuzer is beyond me. Don't complain come round 14 you've got no trades left

Sc_Wow

Why didn’t you start with him if you think so highly of him?

John

I did you sputnik

Sc_Wow

Calm down John. Talking to B&B in reference to Macrae

Keats
redherringfc

I take it that it’s the definition about potatoes and not the one about satellites.

Mkeats

Either or… Read on…lol…should be grateful he wasn't labelled a Santorum.. I reckon you and John would be great at playing Cards Against Humanity!

Bald&theBeautiful

What kind of question is that? I didn't start with him because he just didn't fit into my team. I think very highly of Titch likewise, and he's also not in my team because he didn't fit either. What's your problem?

Sc_Wow

Thats probably the case for others aswell hence the 2% ownership. It’s not really mind boggling. Would love to know how your team is going if Blakely fits in your team and tich doesn’t

Bald&theBeautiful

Sure, I'll bite, I'm all for a robust discussion. This is after trading out Kreuzer and Blakely, about $70k in the bank:
Laird, Savage, Sicily, Doedee, Finlayson, Murray (Naughton, Murphy)
Dusty, Macrae, J Kelly, Fyfe, Cripps, Coniglio, T Kelly, Holman (Brayshaw, Banfield, Garlett)
Gawn, NicNat (Olango)
Heeney, McLean, D Smith, C Curnow, Fisher, Christensen (Ryan, Fritsch)
I started with cheapies like Coniglio and Blakely to bank $200k to help bring Danger in later on. I really like Blakely and think he could breakout after his strong finish last season, thus his inclusion. But after seeing Macrae burst out of the blocks I'm thinking f*** it, Blakely just didn't do enough to hold his spot in my team. With how cookie-cutter SC is, surely you can appreciate taking a few punts here and there right?
Currently ranked 9018 – not setting the competition alight but I'm happy. You?

Sc_Wow

Yeah but within reason. You had a plan to bring danger in, a risky plan and now you’ve strayed off because Macrae looks good. It’s going to be very hard for you to be competitive without danger and tich. Did you chase fisher too?
Not trying to get a ‘bite’ just pointing out obvious flaws in your comments.
I’m around the 1.1k mark atm

Bald&theBeautiful

I do see your point, starting with Blakely was risky. After 3 rounds I've decided to cut my losses and ditch him for Macrae. Do you think that was a bad move? Should I have backed in Blakely for longer? I mean it's pretty much just a late corrective trade.

You're pretty much on the money with Fisher though 😅 he's still going to make money like a rookie and will score better than one, but yes I was sucked in just a bit. Credit where credit is due 😅 well done on the rank, good luck cracking the 1k 👍

Sc_Wow

I should be in there next week, have had danger from the start and he will only get better.
Not really a corrective now there has been a price change, you want to be making money, not buying guys once they go up.
You’ll score more next week than you did this week but in the long run you’re going to struggle if you keep chasing playing and don’t stick to well thought out plans

hedski

Another crappish performance by my side again, just got Ryan in this week so my bad luck continues.
If he's out for a while I'm going Ryan to Henry (should hold his spot with Guthrie going down) or Crowden (like the DPP) and punting Brayshaw for Titch.
God my side looks better with Titch in it.

Daisy

You can't pay $687k for a bloke, no matter how good he's going. I'll play the patience game and wait for him to drop an ordinary one and get him for $600ish later!

Sc_Wow

You’ll be waiting all season for that price

SC_Donkey

I did that patience thing last year with Doc until now still waiting to get Doc into my team. The way Titch is playing good luck those of getting him in.

AlbertonOval

Titch gets so much of the pill he has pretty much got leather poisoning. I really cannot see him dropping anywhere near 600k this season

TRIGGA_HAPPY

20 games over 100 last year
The guy hust keeps delivering
As consistent as they come now kicking it more and bagging a snagga each week
Might be a long wait

Titch

Oh yes you can

Whatyasmokin

You could get extremely lucky and save 50K, this may not happen till round 17, so what's the friggin point you miss his scoring all year.

You lock the guns in there are 4 you need in the midfield, Danger, Titch, Fyfe and Martin it's just that simple. If all 4 are fit they will be in a contest for the brownlow!

Snoop Dogg

finaly wake up did ya stoner?

Whatyasmokin

No about to go to bed actually 😉

Snoop Dogg

for shizzle ma nizzle

Whatyasmokin

ooh-ee

Rocksta

I have all 4. This game is about scoring points, and to do that you need the best players.

Russty_

I tried that theory last year and couldn't get Titch into my side until about round 17 lol, so good luck waiting for his price to go down.

Stirlsy

Ryan should be ok just a rolled ankle by look of it.

Browncow

I hope so. Was going to play him on field this week for Merrett. Sorry Patch.

joe444

No, the West Australian is reporting today that he's stuffed. "extended period" off the field.

The Ranger

Yeah same here Hedski, I seem to have the knack of picking up every turd that's been dropped so far this season whilst dropping a few of my own just to make it worse.
Venables, Stephenson and Brayshaw…not sure I've ever had three scores below 40 before!

Crowboy94

Have used 1 trade so far this year which was Lambert to Mclean which worked wonders! Now wanting to trade Merrett so BAD!!!

BVB21

Don’t do it. IF you wanted to do it you had to do it last week.

PeteB

Agree. You won’t get value if you trade now. He’ll come good in the next couple of weeks.

AlbertonOval

Got to hang tough i think, He's spunked 86k of my hard earned this week but I have faith in him coming back

scrotum

Traded merret after lots of thought to cogs ,and now happy.
If zac comes good il gladly get him back

HammerTime

Why? You picked him for a reason.. he was knocked out early in one game and dons played shit on the weekend. He is a premium midfielder have some faith bra

JJJ

Billings… From what i saw last week he is playing forward with little time through the middle. Considering how the saints are playing is it time to jump off?

Krups

Im getting rid of him to McLean

Sam

LOL

Sc_Wow

You’re not progressing to full premo doing sideways trades like that

BVB21

Maclean looking like a premo player this year. Spending a lot of time in midfield in a poorly performing team.

Sc_Wow

Yeh that’s why I started ed with him(McLean), everyone was loving billings after round 1, it’s a long game don’t chase points

Whatyasmokin

Exactly, or you'll end up buying players at peak prices rather than cheap.

Dan

He played up the ground this weekend but got alot of handballs cos of pressure…Saints just suck ass! I'm holding him.

Ricardo

Achieve full premo first, then worry about under-performing premos.

John

What to do with armo have 184k and could downgrade Ryan as his injured im thinking
Armo to macrae and Ryan to Henry?

Tyruddanaut

That would work fine. I'm doing the same downgrade, but I'm only using one trade this week since I have 28 left

Sc_Wow

2318 this week

AlbertonOval

Solid work, well done

Sc_Wow

Cheers, bit down on last week, still moving up the rankings though, closing on the top 1k

Derek

Good rank Trev. It’s thining out at the top.

One dumb mistake by me, put Venables on field instead of Ryan. Cost 70pts and about 2k in ranking positions.

Dropped to around 4K.

Sc_Wow

Yeah I messed up with the non vc on Fyfe I could be in the top 100. Names not Trev.

Dev

God work Trev

Sc_Wow

Names josh bud

Russty_

Dev thinks you're a God Josh..high praise indeed! 🙂

Iridium192

2359

Russty_

Nice work man.

Sc_Wow

Cool where’s that put you overall

lachy

Got ryan in this week he better be back and not injured otherwise im going to start pulling the trigger on every shithouse player. Don't have the cash to upgrade Ablett to Danger either..

Tyruddanaut

It doesn't look good for him. He hurt both his ankle and his knee during the fall and had to be carried off almost completely

Iridium192

You better get that AK47 out Lachy, done for 6 minimum

SamC

Is mcgovern from eagles worth trading?

Suggestions and thoughts please?

Rick Grimes

Merrett has a career average of 116 v Port. I'll hold. Simply has to come good.

AlbertonOval

If trade now you have realised his price drop, His BE is 150 odd so he probably has a bit more to drop before he hopefully recovers some coin

Tyruddanaut

I'm thinking of picking him up soon.

Marty

Gutsy move. He's too inconsistent this year for me.

JamiesNinjas13

It's not gutsy, its supercoach. You sell off your max out rookies and buy cheap under performing premiums who start to pick up form.

Sc_Wow

Won’t go near him this year

Fearthebeard

Cog in for billing’s?

Swing Walters down back again?

Tyruddanaut

Hold Billings. His team is the issue at the moment; after they improve, he will score like round 1.

StevoRivo

Lamberts been poor. Improving but will struggle to even finish at F6.

Best trade option? Have Heeney, Smith & Petraca already.

Thinking Robbie Gray or Toby McLean. Any others?

Have $125k cash & 29 trades.

Thoughts please?

Crowboy94

McLean

Tyruddanaut

McLean has assumed a new role this year, going through the midfield more often. He's a fantastic player and valuable for the Bulldogs.
Robbie Gray is a better player, in a better team, playing up forward. His move to the midfield, assumed by many people during the preseason, is not evident and with Rockliff also rotating through, he is likely to stay as a deep forward.

yaboyazza

McLean has been playing as a follower these last 3 weeks and been attending a lot of center bounces which is a good sign for his scoring, looks like a good option.

Hayden

I'd hold off on Robbie until his Round 10 bye. Trade Lambert for Gray then to avoid a bye week.

Whatyasmokin

This is the way, an extra player score is worth a lot more than people think.

StevoRivo

Thanks Whatya” – true, but Grays price goes up while Lamberts falls based on early form. I do though get the round 10 issue. With the likely injury to Ryan, now need to wait and re-assess until later this week. Lambert could however improve with Prestia and Caddy coming back. I reckon he’s heading back to a mid 80s average.

Iridium192

Walters

Will

Gray, Mclean or Walters?

yaboyazza

McLean has been playing as a follower these last 3 weeks and been attending a lot of center bounces which is a good sign for his scoring, him and Walters seem like the best option here, however, that late injury is a big concern and we'll have to wait and see what comes from it.

Sc_Wow

Who got injured?

Rapid growth

Walters hurt his hand late in game.
I just think you watch the games and work out who is the better footballer Walters v Billings v Heeney would say Billings is not as good as the other two on pure ability!
So maclean is going to end up top 8 mid also at this point Billings in poor team will not .

Will

Or Franklin?

NoLanguage

Walters

Da Boysh

the fact that I CANNOT see the projected price movement on the team page for my players without going into analyser is really grinding my effing gears.. why would they change that it makes no sense!

Rhys

Team view in the app seems to work, but yeah generally speaking the app and website seem to get worse each year.

Beezneez

If you're talking about the phone app. When you are looking at player details scroll down to the page showing upcoming fixtures. Next to the low score heading are two little green dots – press them and it brings up projected prices etc,

Beezneez

It's even easier on a computer as the whole page of a player's projections is displayed but you can only look at individual players. I re-read your comment and realise that you are probably wanting to look at your whole team's projections at once – analyser is the only way to do that – think that has always been the case.

RIP jock

SC talk, poohs all over this website. They already have some handy breakevens up if anyone keen.

SW Roosters XXX

No one forces you to be here and use the site mate…..

Trot on over to SC Talk – yo won't be missed…..

Tim

and they are more friendly with no losers like Ruusty and suxty6

Sc_Wow

Fork out $20 and get BE for yourself. This site offers a lot more discussion than SC talk. I only give my advice to this page, and these guys will be first to know about the podcast

Whatyasmokin

Trying to buy friends with breakevens? haha

Petracconaldo

Trying to figure out who the must have rookies are this week but i cant find any who stand out. Should i hold onto Clark and/or D.Fogarty for now until a rookie with good JS appears?

David C

Ed Richards looks ok down back, swing Finlayson into the mids.

TOPHAWK1

Its Monday morning, and chilled out after the weekend dramas. Its finally trade time. Got 30 trades and am looking to downgrade Andrew Brayshaw. The guy could only manage 32 SC on the weekend and his BE is probably already around 40. Looks like a slow burner. I am seriously considering Mark O'Connor from Geelong IF he is named. Why? Because Zach Guthrie and Ablett are both down and will likely miss weeks. I like his DEF/MID DDP. He can swing nicely with Finlayson. He has played only one game, but was impressive with 62 SC. If he is named to play, it is still slightly risky going a week early, but I reckon he could retain his place with Geelong's mounting injuries. Who else is considering bringing O'Connor in if he named this week?

yaboyazza

I like your thinking but I reckon you're better off not pulling the trigger and going Brayshaw to O'Connor early. I highly doubt Brayshaw won't make his BE, so if you wait another week he'll go up in price by a bit for extra profit. Is there any reason to go a week early on the trade? If you wait you get more $$ and you can make sure O'Connor is confirmed to play his third game.

Tyruddanaut

I’m holding for a week. His break even sits at 31 and he has never gone that low before. Even if he gets 31 then it won’t matter and I can get in Higgins next week

Whatyasmokin

Breaking the bubble rule will only bring carnage. Supercoach gods are rubbing their hands together when they see moves like this, for they are spiteful pricks.

Tyruddanaut

The number of redeemers this week! Bontempelli, Hibberd, Dahlhaus, Menegola, Martin, O'Meara, Mills, Vlaustin, Daniel

And it's exciting to see some new talent coming through. Henry was electric during the Geelong v West Coast game and Higgins knows how to kick a snag or two. Once he gets some set shots under his belt, he'll be one of the best forwards in the league; or he might just move into the midfield. Esava was one of two players, next to Ablett, who kept Geelong's chances alive during the first half. But after that he was invisible. Geelong will work on his endurance and in a few years, he might be the next Buddy Franklin.
I doubted Liam Ryan, but he is a superstar. He's better than many first round picks, yet his age turned the teams away. Same with Kelly, although his first half was one to forget.

That reminds me, what to do with Ryan?
I'm thinking that I'm going to hold him this week unless Lobb is out, injured. Then I will trade him to Henry – or Higgins? – and pocket the cash.

Thoughts?

TOPHAWK1

Henry and Jack Higgins are definately on the radar to replace Ryan if that ankle keeps him out for more than 2 weeks. Henry slightly ahead as he is on the bubble whilst we still get another look at Higgins. Just a matter of waiting to see how bad that ankle strain is before making any moves. Cheers mate.

Sc_Wow

Crowden is 117k dpp with a 73 in his scoring, not a bad option

Scouser

Indeed, and on my radar…just not sure I could handle another Ross the Boss Freo player in my team, (already have Fyfe, Banfield, Walters), not to mention Ryan looking very good in defence there also. Saying that though he does look like he's misplaced his tinker keys somewhere with everyone there pretty much playing their expected roles.

Ruusty TopHawk Wow

tyrenaughty me think you talky talky to much, you be quiet now. ok bye

Tyruddanaut

Real funny, much humour was mentioned in this comment. I wish I would stop laughing but I physically can’t or I might die

yaboyazza

Haven't used a trade yet, Grundy has proved he can score well even with Cox in the side, not sure if:

1. Keep big Kreuz
2. Kreuz > Grundy
3. Kreuz > Another ruckman

Thoughts everyone? Cheers.

Doc_1

1. Hold.

You started him for a reason.

TheGreatBozza

Hold Kreuz for sure. Unless your trade to say a Nic Nat frees up funds to bring in an uber premo like Titchell or Dusty. Kreuz was underdone and pulled out an 80 against a rampaging Grundy. Only way is up for Kreuz

paul

Nit nac is being managed only 56 mins game time each game and he is still averaging 100. He is going to get better.

SC_Sixty6

If you don't have injuries but have Merrett I'd be looking to offload him to someone that suits your structure and is in form. It may take weeks to come out of a form slump…..and that means rankings plummet.

Walters looks the goods, kept a close eye on him! Is their link up player and when fwd can kick a few.

Thus far I have had 6 injuries in 3 weeks. Hopefully the bleeding stops. In 7k rank and considering my injuries have cost me at least 150 points at a minimum I'm fairing ok as 104 points sepearted 7k to 2k overall.

TheGreatBozza

You've done well to hold a high ranking with the carnage. How many trades have you used? You should be able to weather the storm and charge home while others overreact to their injuries later on

LieBuster

You must have had a ripping second week sixty6 because after week one you were ranked about 20,000 (based on the score that you said you got) and you still have Merrett. Must have got close to 3,000 in week 2 mate?

Sc_Wow

Yeah I started Merrett and I’m ranked 1k

Defying_Madness

You reckon we should trade or keep him wow?

Sc_Wow

I got him out after round 1. The hit that took him out had nothing in it. 2 head knocks to start the season had me worried. Thought Essendon would try look after him and that seems to be happening

Defying_Madness

Wish I had done the same. If I trade him out now I am way behind in terms of cash and if I keep him he might not come good. He has really screwed my year over

Scouser

That's the same carnage I ran into last year. I tried trading out of trouble but didn't nail all the starting rookies so the lack of cash flow there really hurt in the end. Reckon if you've nailed the rookies to mitigate against those early trades you can still recover especially with a solid byes showing to capitalise on a period where many fall. I also gambled on mid-pricers to help the recovery….it didn't and neither did my team.

gator59

Why are coaches trading out Kruz, Cripps.. Don't trade sideways, They are Keepers… You have picked them for a reason… And trading out rookies that still have negative BE's.. Just baffles me

FearTheBeard

I am tempted with Kreuz too mainly because he is 600k+ and has no doubt got a break even of 200+

That said first game before groin he was looking good.

Last week not so much though still pumped out 86. If he got another 14 everyone would be happy.

I think the main temptation is someone like Nank gives me 100K+ back and hasn't gone under 100 I don't think.

Still gonna hold as it's not worth the trade. Just hope his groin issue is behind him.

JuddWarneloveChild

I can't see Kreuzer getting over his groin issue unless they rest him. No way should he have played only 2 weeks after doing the injury. He was smashing it vs Richmond but was a shadow of himself vs Collingwood (was at both games). I traded him out after R1 and was fully expecting him to be a late withdrawal on Thursday night. You can't continue rucking with a dodgy groin unless you're prepared to play at well under 100% and drag out recorvery time.

FearTheBeard

Though he still got 86 and as I said 100+ you would be happy…

Derek

People like to trade

Scouser

No idea why anyone would be trading Crimps out now. Kruze is different though, no depth at the Blues in the ruck so they'll likely play him if a bit undermine which is what we're seeing at the moment. And with the big ruck scores returning I think it's a reasonable option to trade him into another premium, he certainly didn't look like last season's version at the weekend.

FearTheBeard

Tossing up some things and would like some views.

I'm doing my best not to cull Kreuz even though he will bleed cash as I hope he can regain some form.

Billings on the other hand is giving me the ….

I have Walters sitting in the mids right now due to bringing in Ryan so tossing with the idea of cutting Billings loose for Walters to move down and to bring in Cogs.

Right now I DON'T see Billings as a keeper. He just isn't preforming and with the games coming up I don't see it any better.

I could essentially move Billings down giving me 4 forwards as keepers locked in and Cogs would become my 6th mid locked in for keeper.

It would then also allow me to go for Heeney next week as my 5th forward to be kept.

Thoughts?

Logic?

JuddWarneloveChild

I wonder how many people thought the same with Dahlhaus and traded him out only to see him pump out a 113?

Derek

Trading out good players who are not injured will hurt in the long term.

Trading Billings to Walters puts you behind everyone else by $38k and 1 trade.

What will you do if Walters has a bad game next week against GWS (away)? Trade him.

Walters has looked great last 2 weeks. Remember who he has played and that both were at home!

Fearthebeard

Not trading for Walters.

I have Walters in the midfield. Moving him down and getting cogs in the mids.

See the logic?

Derek

Billings to Coniglio.

Billings gone down, Coniglio gone up, puts you behind in $, uses a trade, Coniglio probably not top 10, Billings prob will be top 8.

I personally wouldn’t do it unless you think Coniglio is a top 10 mid.

Fearthebeard

Same sort of money right now and no where near comparable reliability, next week it won’t be remotely close with billing’s dropping substantially and cogs likely going up a decent amount again. It also leaves 2 forward spits with heeney looking like 1 and Greene if healthy the other.

Cogs can take my m8

Sc_Wow

They don’t get it Derek, you probably feel like your talking to a brick wall. They will realise once they have used all their money on sideways trades

Marty

I think the question comes down to who will be the top 8 forwards and will Billings be in there?
I'm thinking Buddy, Walters, Hogan, McLean, Heeney, Westoff, Lynch, Mundy ….Billings and Greene will be thereabouts

Sc_Wow

No Gray?

Derek

A top 8 list with Hogan, Westoff and Mundy in it, just goes to show how weak the forward line is this year. My point exactly, if Billings won’t be near that lot he is much worse than I thought.

Coniglio was in and out of my team more than any other player. I couldn’t decide if having a nearly-top 10 player was worth the $140k saved. So far my decision looks a bad one. I just worry there is too much talent at GWS for everyone to score. Taranto and Hopper will improve during the year, Ward, Whitfield, Shiel and Kelly all in the guts.

Derek

For what it’s worth my top 8 forwards were: Heeney, Gray, Greene, Buddy, Menagola, Barlow, Devon, Petracca.

Walters, McLean, Mundy, Hogan are all now in the mix, add JJK as well.

Where top 10 mids seemed a lot easier: Danger, Dusty, Fyfe, TMitch, Crouch, Kelly, Oliver, Parker, Ablett, Merrett

FearTheBeard

Thanks Derek. It supports my decision.

I have Dusty, Fyfe, Titch, Kelly, Oliver. I will now have Cogs. I will take Danger & Crouch as my last two. When they both drop enough.

Gaz is to injury proned. Merrett I'm steering clear off. Parker could be a option though Danger was always a plan and Crouch with the injury causing him to eventually bleed cash is another.

Smith, Buddy, McLean, Walters already locked in forward line. My plan was Heeney & Greene for final 2. That said if Gray or Mengaloa demand it I'll look at them too.

Russty_

Not sure if Lynch is in there, depends on him getting a big bag…otherwise he's shite.

ProfessorPoints

Simple.
Keep kreuz you lose

redherringfc

So far you’re on point.

I’m keeping him. No wasting trades for me. Pretty sure he’ll come good.

Marty

Billings started poorly last year then rolled out a 114 136 104 68 106 110 130 then finished strongly. Can't wait for him to turn the form around.

FearTheBeard

Any news on Ryans anke? Bad?

INPieman

Rumour it's broken & out for 10-12. But not confirmed yet

Sc_Wow

Rumour is that he was faking it to get a big cheer from the crowd . Also not confirmed yet

Derek

Thanks for info. My first trade last week was Langdon to Ryan for some quick cash, didn’t think it would be this quick.

NoLanguage

I did the same thing Derek 🙁 Will you hold him and go to Higgins next week or pull the trigger now?

Derek

He is so fat and juicy I’d hold him if I though he would be back in a few weeks. Wait on the scans.

I have Venables on chopping block next week for Higgins.

I had one simple decision to make last weekend, who to put on field out of Ryan, Fritsch or Venables?

NoLanguage

Yeah I have Venables too, Higgins a lock if he plays well next week. If Ryan is less than a month out I'm holding

Jim

Contemplating what to do with Billings and Zerrett. I have 265k in the bank so any move up or down is financially easy, but I see zerrett as the more likely long term option. Billings just looks out it after his first game. What are your guys thoughts?

KSinny

I have both and I'd say hold at least for another week

FearTheBeard

I'm tossing with culling Billings too. Move Walters down to forward line again and bring in Cogs.

Not sure yet though leaning towards this.

Sam_01

Gotta hold them both, to late to be making these kinds of trades now back in your premos no point going sideways. That being said cogs could very well be a top 8 mids and is great value.

Sam_01

Top 6 fwds heeney, buddy, Smith, McLean, Walters, Greene in my opinion. I didn’t expect saints to be so garbage this year hopefully they will pull it together or Billings output will be damaged. Could be worth trading him to hard to say right now. Walters may have a hand injury though so that will throw a spanner in the works

pod

You might be right about top 6 fwds too early to call but Billings not far off the pack. Don't panic let him play a few more rounds and see what happens. He will improve his scores and save you a needless trade or two.

Russty_

Billings has never been a premo, and now he's trying to improve his sporadic best 92 average in a completely crap filled team with no forward line…not gonna happen I feel, I've culled him and now have no more trainwreck saints in my squad.

Andrew

What to do with Stephenson?
Really underperforming so far – hold or trade

TheGreatBozza

I have a feeling he could be dropped this week. I think he's been good for the Pies thus far but looks a bit out of gas, plus De Goey and Elliot still need to come back. I'd look to hold as I think he will play again later on this year

Sam_01

I started with a loaded mid with cogs at M7 kills me seeing premos that will drop in price, I don’t have Mitchell surely he has to be my last mid upgrade regardless of value presented in the mids?

Sc_Wow

You’re behind the pack now with no tich. There was plenty of value in rookies this year

Clancy

Can anyone tell me what happened to Yo Yom

INPieman

Only 12 touches & 6 of them clangers & 4 frees against won't give you much of a score

Sellars1226

Just wanted some thoughts on team so far and some recommended trades if u guys have some !

DEF: Laird, Hurley, Ryan, Sicily, Doedee, Finlayson (Murray, Mihocek)
MID: Danger, Titch, Oliver, Fyfe, Coniglio, Armitage, Kelly, Holman (Brayshaw, Banfield, Barry)
RUC: Kreuz, Gawn (English)
FWD: Heeney, Greene, Petracca, Taberner, Ryan, Fritsch (Garlett, Keeffe)

I'm wanting to get in Acres or Walters into my side also wanting to trade Armitage out but I think his breakeven is still below 0 so I might hold for a couple of more weeks.

Mick

His break even is 66 mate

Sellars1226

Ok thanks, I wouldn't know what it is because I don't have the supercoach gold membership thing

pod

Dont get Acres he is a big trap. Walters is your man.

Whatyasmokin

Agreed.

Derek

Have you got any cash? Enough to go straight Armo to Walters?

skate or die

is it worth side trading to get Kade Simpson in? J Lloyd to Simpson.. I feel Lloyd won't improve on last seasons average and will be around the 80's.

Sc_Wow

Nah you’re a week too late for that

Whatyasmokin

Hold.

fanboy

do it why not its only a game

Derek

Try and get your keepers at lower prices. Yeo, Hibbo, Howe and Hurley need to be on your watch list and pick them up once they have bottomed out.

Unless Lloyd is injured, keep him

TRIGGA_HAPPY

Dont think im gonna trade this week
Give tarranto another go (took a bit of a risk gotta go with the gut call)
Get another look at higgins this week may trade him in next
Thats better from crowden this week
Going along nicely thanks to my purple pods.

David C

Taranto had Hewett following him around all game. He'll come good again.

Derek

Hopper was in the midfield a lot more than Taranto

Did you see the goal miss? Cost a few points

SC_Donkey

Looking at my team, it's a very ordinary compare to other teams I've seen, really happy of how it's travelling.

Back
Laird, Hibbo, Bonner, Doedee, Finlayson, Murray
E: Naughton, Murphy

Mid
Danger, Titch, Oliver, Kelly
Fyfe, Cripps, Kelly, Holman
E: O'Connor, Garlett, Banfield

Ruck
Gawn, Cox and English

Fwd
Heeney, McLean, Smith, Taylor, Curnow, Fritsch
E: Langdon, Ryan

Have been disciplined of not falling into a trap with mid-price players who scored well on the first 2 rounds. Though I've use 3 trades in the 1st two round, it was needed to correct some players.
Dropped Rocky the fact he had some issue with his knees and playing HF he had to go for Danger.
Ryder was doing well, until he did his ankle. Being in LTI trade was a must to Curnow.
I had Mihocek in the bench doing nothing, with Langdon injured and O'Connor got dropped after one game. Having 3 non-playing rookies just way too much in my team. So brought in Bonner in place for Mihocek.
Langdon will remain in my team as he's on the bubble, he will make me some cash when he gets back in a few weeks and saves a trade or two.
Ryan depending on how bad his Ankle injury might hold on to, he can still make me some serious cash when he comes back.
I was very tempted and close of moving on Hibbo last week. After seeing Dees team lineup made me changed my mind to keep him, i think he'll be on the way up with his output.

The Goods
I think i have nailed the premos to start the season with, will back them all until half way of the season. They will have an off day now then, you really can't expect them pump high score week in week out. But you can back them to maintain their average.

I was lucky to start with the right rookies at beginning of the season who will generate tons of cash. I was disciplined in not spending too much cash on high priced Rooks, Naughton was the only Rookie i started with at a price of $166K, though pick up Bonner on the bubble and righly so he's gained me some decent cash. It's way i stashed some cash and started with two non-playing Rooks just incase there is one rookie who is highly price worth bringing in to make me some cash.

The Bad
Injuries Ryder, Langdon and Ryan
Cox is only the bad pick i have in my team and weighing my team down. I being patient with him until the slaughter house is open. He will bleed some cash, but it will be worth it once bring in Kreuzer who will bleed a fair bit of cash and by the time I bring Kreuzer in, he should be fit and jumping well again.

Sorry for the long post, I'd though share on how I went about my team, the let down, tradings, discipline and patience.

Sc_Wow

Big Cox puts a stain all over that team

SC_Donkey

Yes he does, as i have metioned in my post, not in the word as you put it. But I'm not gonna fuss too much about it, the team is in top 6% considering Cox is there. Patience my friend it's a long road we're not even a quarter to the finish line.

Need Blurb

I will read the second half tommorow

SC_Donkey

Good for ya mate. Might give you an idea of what to with Langdon, unless you're one of those who traded him out for Ryan chasing the points without thinking of how you can benefit with Langdon. 1. He's on the bubble and will still make lots of cash 2. He'll save you a trade or two.

These people who traded Langdon for Ryan will end using 3 or trades down track.

Need Blurb

lost interest halfway through your essay

SC_Donkey

I bet you did, and I think you're one of those you will lose interest halfway to the season.👍

quick reply

My fingers hurt from scrolling need to lie down.

Derek

Team looks ok.

Taylor was a risk and might be still pay off, but Maclean and Walters looking better options.

How much cash do you have in the war chest?

Have you thought about a Non-playing ruck/forward at F8? The bloke from Port. Gives you the chance for two bites at R2, either Cox or English whoever plays first on bench with E, if they do good swing Haynes into R2 and other ruck goes forward.

I think dogs or Pies play before Port 9 out of next 11.

SC_Donkey

Thanks Derek

I went in 5 deep in the fwd line and have 1 rookie onfield. I picked my players based on my research, 3 or maybe 4 will be keepers if 1 or 2 (Taylor) don't turn out to be keepers. Then I'd be happy to upgrade them to a premo when the rookies are ripe for picking. Not taking any chances of moving them to other mid-pricer at this time of the season, it's a waiting game.

Have thought about bringing in Haynes, trades are precious. Cox will not be in my team for that long maybe 2 or 3 weeks the most.

Had $219K before I brought Bonner in, now I'm left $65K in the kitty. I'm looking to turn Bonner into Simmo or whoever is (having breakout)performing well in the next few rounds.

Derek

Simpson is too old and too expensive. It’s a long season. There might come a time this year where Carlton look to the future.

Yeo, Hibbo, Hurley and Howe all on my watch list.

Even if you get rid of Cox soon, you might still keep English. He isn’t much good to you at R3. You can trade him for his cash, but there is a trade anyway. I’d get Haynes as a swinger, it could get you a few points if you can loop cox and English and then later save you a trade to swing English forward to bench cover for two lines.

Frank

wow another chapter of dribble, turning into a boring novel this one

Derek

It’s Monday Frank…. plus, I live in Cronulla, I got no-one to chat footy with

Russty_

Why did you bother reading it then?…go back to Pornhub where you spend 6 hours a day.

SC analysis pro

A few months ago I went to watch Ed Sheeran at Etihad Stadium. It was a marvelous performance, great night.
I walked away thinking I would never see a red head Ed light up Etihad Stadium like that ever again.
I was wrong!!! Ed Richards absolutely put the stadium on fire yesterday. I thought the roof was gonna come off. amazing stuff.
Simple analysis says who is a very good investment into my team this week.

pod

Good to see you spelt your name right this time.

dontblushbaby

I can see O'Connor coming in this week for the Cats, I've used him as my loophole. if so there I'm keeping Ryan for loophole ,won't get much for him anyway by trading out

SC_Donkey

I'm doing the same, you would think O'Connor will get a recall with all the injuries Geelong have. Will save us a trade, good for loophole(Ryan) and will make some serious cash when he gets back.

INPieman

Anyone else considering culling the Freo Brayshaw. Was he tagging?

TommyC99

His breakeven is -3, so might keep him for another weke

Sc_Wow

Might aswell let him make a bit more then look at Higgins

Whatyasmokin

Agree with holding, unless there is an option who is guaranteed to go up a lot this week that is not in one's team.

All he needs is an 80+ string together a few decent games and he's making money.

INPieman

Brayshaw's BE is 33. One more than he scored this week. Warning bells

TommyC99

Whoops, footywire haven't updated his yet. -3 was his round 2 breakeven. Now i'm starting to consider it.

KSinny

his breakeven is 33

TommyC99

Yeah corrected myself above

BockChoy

I am considering it. For the cost of a trade, I can swap to Crowden, pocket nearly $100k in cash plus earn another $60-70k extra in value over the next 2 weeks.

Fearthebeard

Cull him pieman!

INPieman

I'm very tempted FTB. I'm having a look at the Henry kid for the Cats. With all the injuries he might have some JS

Steeeve

I'm thinking the same. If not for a rubbish "deliberate" free against young Henry would have scored even higher.
Really liked the look of Coffield who will be on the bubble the weel after too but he's more expensive.

Frog

Henry's first game wasn't so flash Pieman. If he backs out a couple more of those he wont make much, could be going from the Frypan to the garbage disposal

WithAllDueRespect

He was knocked out and didn't play the second half…

JamiesNinjas13

I'm considering too but gonna have a look at him for another week. Had 60% TOG and has good job security, hopefully will start to get more confident.

The Ranger

Can't fault his effort Pieman, and when he got it he used it ok. He just didn't get it very often.

INPieman

Goodness me just read Yo Yo man was on -7 at 3/4 time due to his clangers. That's gotta be a record. His 34 points in the last quarter got his score up to 27

TRIGGA_HAPPY

Just avoided a new record (not one u want to have)

Premo scored -ve points in a game. Not injured.

Sc_Wow

Will be a handy inclusion once he’s bottomed out

Holty

I read somewhere this week someone put the C on Fevola a few years back and scored -7. Ended up with -14 as it was doubled. That would suck

zerowins

First 2 trades this week. Brayshaw and Lobb for Henry and Gray. Feel Gray might be back to his best and will be good cover through the bye rounds

AuroraBorealis?!

Are there any Freo fans with insight about Mitch Crowdens job security?

Sc_Wow

Don’t think they’d make any changes this week. If they lose by 100 to gws could be a different story round 5

AuroraBorealis?!

I feel like they're trying to rebuild and blooding as many new players as possible, im hoping he stays in the side.

TRIGGA_HAPPY

Not a freo fan but had a bit more of a look at this Crowden lad last week (was my early looper – whoops) 
Anyway appears to be a bit of a contested beast who loves a cuddle (12 against crows last year made me sit up and take notice) all ticks for SC. Bit sloppy with disposal but ya get that from rookies. 
JS i reckon is ok if u trust Ross Lyin.
Had a lot of clangers rd 2 hence his low score.

AuroraBorealis?!

Thanks for the reply Trigga, he's coming in for Brayshaw this week.

AB13

I have 26 trades left, 2 this week and 432K in the bank.

Def: Laird, Hibberd, Sicily, Bonner, Doedee, FInlayson, Murray, Mihocek

– Which of Doedee, FInlayson and Murray do I bench for Sicily? I dont have another Def/Fwd so I cant swing him forward. I'm thinking Murray because of the pies playing the crows.

Mid: Titch, Dusty, Oliver, Merrett, Coniglio, Jaeger, T.Kelly, Holman, Brayshaw (Fre), O'connor, Brown

– Do I downgrade Brayshaw to Crowden, pocket an extra 100K with a bigger upside and a significantly lower BE?

Ruck: Gawn, Nic Nat and Olango.

– Could get a playing R3 but I doubt its worth it.

FWD: Heeney, Smith (Ess), Petracca, Christensen, Stephenson, Fritsch, Rayner, Fogarty

– Upgrade one or both of Stephenson, Rayner, Fogarty to either Walters or Toby Mclean or another suggestion?

Any ideas?

Sam_01

Bench finnlayson I reckon
Pies shocking going forward I reckon doedee will get a fair few intercept posies and Murray will enjoy the pill being smashed int our backline all game. Yeah either McLean or Walters great pick ups Walters hurt his hand towards the end of the game so keep an eye out for that