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Kane Lambert and Hunter Clark out > Heeney and Barry in. Got all other rookies. Good trades?
Good trades
Fyfe into Danger for me this week but can't wait to watch my rucks, Goldy and Gawn, go head to head.
Their last game in 2016 down in Tassie was one of the most incredible games of footy I've seen, firstly because of the wind, but secondly for their ridiculous 170+ apiece Supercoach scoring. Let's hope that they can back it up.
Nice trade.
Won’t see too many people with the guts to pull that one.
sorry misread that, got your name muddled with the actual trade you’re doing (and my dyslexia).
I though you were called Fyfe and you were trading Zac Dawson to Danger.
I know it’s Danger, but it’s also Fyfe. Only way that trade pays off, is if Fyfe snaps a leg.
Think Dac is vcing Fyfe into Danger cap red..
Do I trade Langdon or hold?Would be my first trade used Would likely be to Murphy Via DPP! Or/ and do I trade Clark? Was leaning to holding him as got good mid rookies atm and I could trade him for Murphy via Finalyson dpp , that would lead me to having to field a Naughton/ Murphy? What do I do Lek?
I wouldn't be doing a trade that puts Naughton or Murphy on field. I feel like you should just hold unless you don't have Ryan or Fritsch.
and Thoughts on Lachie Fogarty?
Is it stupid to trade Fogarty for Ryan?
I already have Venables and Fritsch.
And which 2 of those 3 (Ryan, Venables and Fritsch) should be onfield?
Not the worst trade Bob, fogarrt probably facing limited opportunities. As for on-field Fritsch for a steady 60 loophole for Ryan or go for glory and play him, will be up and down
I did that this week Bob, no point having a stagnant rookie on the bench, unless you want them there on purpose.
Ryan will make you good cash, whereas Fogarty, if and or when he gets another game, won't make much with his scores.
Did you end up getting Ryan?
Who’s more of a must get out of Don Barry and Murphy??
Dom Barry
Barry looks a player.
Murphy not quite at AFL standard yet
Why is it still a podcast? Wasnt it intended to be a video?
Why not?
You got me there…
Where are you ranked?
The wrong end
Should I trade hibberd to Simpson or hold? I have 29 trades and 50k, not making any other trades this week
Hold and reassess next week
I’m holding Hibbo
Agreed. Hibbo is not going anywhere. Will come good.
Trade naughton this week or wait for O’Connor to be on the bubble next week?
Wait
Naughton to Bonner? Is it worth burning the trade?
Additional info. Only interested in winning my cash league
I don’t think so.
Bonner’s about $100k more isn’t he? If I’m correct then they will max out at about the same profit. Some rookies come good after slow starts, Berry last year went backwards after 3 rounds and then was good, hopefully this is Naughton.
You will miss out on a few points early, but waste your trades and you will not will win your league.
Well said. Agree 100%.
If just cash league then hold, he's already improving so just bang him on the bench, other rooks will come through so if he's still serving turds by rd 5 you should be able to trade him out
Zorko to Dusty and Mills to Simpson?
Appreciate advice
🔐
1 possible top 10 midfielder, and a potential breakout player, to a top 3 mid and a top 5 defender. Sounds pretty good to me.
Great trades for mine
Do you think Mcevoy could be a good pod. Looking really good this year (in 1% of teams)???
He would be. However Ceglar is only 2 weeks away from playing. If the Hawks go with a 2 Ruck strategy, big boy is dead to us.
Had him in a preseason article, really rate him. HTA is high
Yes, as a Hawks member I am gutted that I couldn't fit Big Boy in my ruck, really needed him to be a Ruc/Fwd (as he was Hawthorn's best goal kicker last year) definitely a solid POD, IMO.
Will Ceglar come straight in?
First time this season Armitage has been named in the centre bounce due to Richardson's axing …… perhaps reverse the trade from Armo to Cogs???
Appreciate opinions community
Are you serious? You are terrible at supercoach and are the last person who should be offering advice
Me?
That’s what i think too. I’m just tying to bring everyone back down to my level.
I guess people don’t know what a Red Herring is.
And the FC stands for Fishing Club. (Although I think my mate Dave C, from last week might have had it as something entirely different)
I traded ZGL to Jaiden Stephenson, this leaves me with 110k in the bank and 28 trades left. good move or nah.
What rookie should I bring in for Clark?
I have all the main ones, was thinking Higgins but not sure.
Wouldn't be trading any rooks in till they're on the bubble and named, if it all goes awry then it's one tough shit fest to get out of mate, take it from someone who's been there 🙁
Clark is about to lose money and has been dropped so I don't have much choice haha
Hibberd –> Simpson and Ainsworth –> Conigilio
Thoughts?
Who is Ainsworth?
I just looked him up. 91 in the 1st round, must have had you pretty happy.
Are you dumping him because of his 39 or is he injured/dropped?
What did you expect for 334k? It’s like Armitage and JOM, great value, but do we expect them to be long term keepers? I don’t, they hopefully get 80-100, make some cash and then get turned into a real premo.
Pretty sure your team will be better with the trades, but i won’t be surprised if late in the season you want to get Hibberd back and get rid of Coniglio. That equals 4 trades, when it could be 1 or 2.
is langdon worth trading out. If so, should it be to venables, waterman or english
ZGL reported to be out for 4 weeks im bringing in waterman has the best BE -60 odd of those 3
-56
Is it crazy to bring in Venables instead of Ryan to replace Langdon?
All my other rookies are sweet.
Think he could make more cash in 6-8 weeks time
Ryan got 38 in the 1st round.
I see your logic, but that 115 is going to push his price up over the next 3 weeks.
Tough call, but I say go with Venables and hope that last week was a one off from Ryan.
I’m going Ryan for quick cash.
Higgins will be on bubble in 2 weeks, won’t be many other rookies ready to cull.
Same.
Ryan to higgins in 2 weeks likely scenario.
Ryans price to climb like he does over a defender.
If he doesn’t have a good score this week or next, his BE in two weeks will be very high as the 115 drops out. Easy trade to Higgins then, where Venables and others will still have low BE in two weeks
When did O’Shea sneak back into the Carlton team?
He’s playing in the 2s this week
That’s what thought. I’m certain I saw his name in the final teamI
And was best for the blues.
Couldn’t have been hard, just have to go hard st the ball a couple of times
Making two corrective trades. Only question is which rookie moves on to facilitate that maneuver! Andrew brayshaw or zac langdon. Zac out with hand injury makes some sense and may be out for four plus weeks but should go up nicely in value when he returns. Or… bray only likely to rise by about 28k and I'd pocket the 80k difference in their price as well. I have all other relevant rookies. The cash may be useful in a further trade next week with bringing dusty in a possible option. T kelly and holman on the field, other on field mids premos and would leave banfield and Barry on the bench probably with garlett subbed in from forward line to accommodate my two ins. Bray out or zac and why!
Tip Zac out wont be playing keep brayshaw is playing
No SC related but a draft Q.
Who to play on ground?
Vlastuin or DBJ from port?
Who do we think will score more?
Leaning towards DBJ.
DBJ trig.
Yeah DBJ after last week though Vlastuin was crucified by the umps
VC Fyfe or Cripps
Both good options, can’t go wrong with Cripps Collingwood don’t tag
yeah, I have Cripps as my V with a loophole option if he tears up Collingwood, otherwise, will anoint Titch or Dusty on Sunday.
Do I punt Dahlhouse?
McLean seems to be taking some of his points / doggies playing shocking.
Trade to Taranto or gamble on fisher? I have Heeney petracca Devon Smith, Billings, L ryan, Giles Langdon, Fritsch.
If I go to fisher I can shift the Bont into dusty. Already have Dangr and T Mitch.
i think if you were going to do it i would be making sure I get Dusty out of it otherwise it isnt worth the risk
Lek, thoughts on Sicily to Fisher and Naughton to Bonner? As a fellow Carlton supporter the little 🐟 excites me
Def: Laird, Hibberd, McGovern, Finlayson, Deodee, Murray (Keefe, J Payne)
Mid: Danger, Titch, Fyfe, Cripps, Shuey, Conigs, T Kelly, Holman (Brayshaw, Banfield, Garlett)
R: Jacobs, Gawn (Loophole – King)
Fwd: Heeney, Billings, Greene, Sicily, Ryan, Waterman (Fritsch, Gilles-Langdon)
7.8k 30 trades left
Looking at a donut on Fwd's and Greene could be absent next week too. Tempted to go:
Greene to Fisher
J Payne to Bonner
Should I just field a donut this week?
Thoughts?
Hmm, do I trade Duncan to Oliver? Probably won't but communitys thoughts?
Yes, or you chase cash and see who is on fire in 3 weeks time. Ellis yolmen at Adelaide could avg 90 for the next 3 weeks and make very good money. Unfortunately i dont have anyone underperforming to make a trade justifiable
Ellis yolman isn’t justifiable for anyone, using 2 trades on the hope of getting 90’s. Ridiculous
Why don't the AFL put names on back of jumpers like every single other team sport in the world?? my guess is it would take up valuable advertising space!
Yep, if only I knew who number 14 was for Carlton I'd make him my captain every week.
The bloke is amazing.
ROD ASHMAN
Hope its a good game "tonihgt"
Sam Murray on field and lookin good…..
YEP. It's official. Weitering is retarded.
Agree. My team was so awesome good but had him in it. So sad. Like putting lemon in a perfectly good beer.
Glad I turfed him already.
are carlton the new easybeats Simpson is good but the other defenders are crapp
You try playing in that backline!
Sam Docherty is a massive blow and with Gibbs traded thats the 2 best kicks in the team gone, that takes time to replace. The field kicking is awful and not up to scratch and that is exposing the defenders bigtime.
Can you imagine if Curnow and Casboult had a decent MIDFIELD kicking to them?
Z.Fisher is one of very few who actually give a t0ss about tackling and chasing, too many soft and lazy players out there.
Spot on BB 75
Its not friggin rocket science. Fit blokes who run hard both ways….my kingdom for a few of those in this team.
Plus tough contested manic pressure footy…..the stuff that got Bulldogs and Tigers players premiership medals.
Can handle the poor skill errors but cannot cop blokes not having a crack.
I thought that spot was reserved for StKilda this year Neil 🙂
I need advice Russty I am playing the underdorks He has Murray so do I but on the pine WHO do I swap HIBBERD SHAW BONNER DOODEE or FINLAYSEN tough call thinking bonner what do you think
Haha you want my advice on how to beat me?..lol..ok here goes mate, put your worst player on the field and best on the bench hehe
KNEW YOU WOULD BITE// good luck
Lek – do i trade bell to mclean (f5) or to cogz (m6)?
cogz (m6) for sure, made the move myself.
Z.Fisher was 263k with a BE of -48 before last nights game.
What is Z.Fisher's price after his 76?
Kid needs to bulk up but I was impressed, if only his teammates tackled and pressured like him, does not panic with the ball either.
Thanks
hes a twig hey
Hey Big Blue, yeah he's a skinny 19 yr old Kid but jeez I think he's gonna be a good player for a long time once he matures.
His projected score was 69 with a projected rise of $52.5k so with a 76 maybe around 55-58k? Cheers.
I think his price rise will be closer to 40k, so end up just over 300k.
If he's exceeded his projected score, why wouldn't the price rise be the same or a bit more than SC Gold has predicted it to be?
Why would it be less?
read devon smith and hurley had scans during the week and may not play?
serious rabbits? thats no good. hope they play
Take Garlett's 64, or put Ryan (WCE) on field?
Take it
I'm willing to gamble Garlett's 62 so I'm with Ryan as I think now he'll be more confident after last week. Keep in mind the young Cats defenders will be aware of him and could quite easily shut him down. Last week they struggled against the tall Hawks like Rough and Gunston who won the game for them.
Sicily to Bonner and Bont to Danger
Thoughts in this trade?
I'm not so sure about bonner, one good score with no history. have to hold Sicily I think. Why not wait and see what danger does this week. If he is likely to go down in price, your worried about Bont going down too I guess but you haven't really given him much of a chance yet. Hmmm I dunno You need to look and see if you can find some other way of getting Danger in in two or three weeks first. Then maybe yes do it if you dont think you can.
You aren't going to see Danger for less than $680k unless he has a couple of shizin games or is injured during a game. I'm predicting a massive score this week from him. Last week was a warm up for him, he's ready to rip the game apart as we know he can. That play last week when he stole the ball from Cyril was unbelievable, never seen anyone do that to Cyril. Get him in asap!
That's true. But Should have got him last week now may as well wait one more week to see if he is going down a lot or a little.
Should I trade Townsend to Parfitt, Christensen or Ellis Yoleman or keep Townsend and trade ZGL to Venables (already have Fritsch, Gowers and Ryan).
VC.- Gawn or Laird.
Thanks SC_Sixty6 really appreciate the advice. Just trying to get someone at F3 that is a more consistent and better scorer than Townsend . Those that I have mentioned are averaging 90 and also about to go up in price which I can turn into a premium later. I don't have enough cash to turn him into a premium like Heeney.
JOM to Coniglio or save the trade?
This would be the week to do it Fono if you want him, no point waiting.
Hey Lekdog,
How long have you been playing Supercoach, how many hours a week would you and the rest of the guys devote to the community and to your teams?
Really appreciate what you guys do.
Cheers.
Hey Lek! Just a thought maybe a Q&A thread will be beneficial for the whole community with myself and Wow answering questions seeing as we are so respected here with no BS advice or sugar coating.
dont agree
If you want to do your own Q&A start your own website.
Have to trade out Crouch. with only $25k and 30 trades. The options I am thinking of are:
1 Straight trade to Oliver.
2. I also have Sicily at F4 (covered by Garlett's 65). Was thinking Sicily to Taranto and Crouch to Martin – have Danger Tich, Kelly, Fyfe
and Cripps.
3. Crouch to Coniglio and Sicily to Taranto with $218K left.
4. Crouch to Coniglio and A Brayshaw (Freo) to Taranto leaving $14K – this would mean putting Taranto at m7 and Holman to the
bench. I had originally thought of doing this trade and substituting Garlett to have Taranto on field in the fwd line (replacing Sicily).
Unfortunately, I missed the deadline for this trade. This trade will mean I will keep Sicily.
All advice says to hold Sicily but I kinda like having Taranto. Could have another look and do the trade next week as both should have similar prices – although I hate sideways trading.
Any thoughts would be appreciated.
Tough one Beez cause I think the best one to go for is the one that gets Martin in, but it could also backfire, (Sicily to Taranto).
Sicily although a hothead, could still average 100 if he can stop his brain from boiling during matches, Taranto, only played 12 games at 66 av, what if he goes back to that?..then you're stuck with a dud.
Thanks for the input Russty. I am now thinking of keeping Sicily. I could find another way of getting Martin as I'm only $23K short or saving a trade and going to Oliver or Coniglio for cash generation.. .
Who to start? need to start 2 out of these 5 Kelly Holman Brayshaw Banfield Barry. Kelly will be 1 im thinking Brayshaw over Holman maybe for 2nd spot??
Kelly and Holman for me, Holman has the runs on the board, Brayshaw doesn't yet.
Kelly and Holman.
There is no reason not to start Holman and Kelly, they have proven they can get points
What he said. Two thumbs up!
Just think Brayshaw and even Barry to go well. But Holman does have the runs on the board
Hope you didn’t go bray and Barry
Full house KELLY / HOLMAN why brayshaw shake could be wrong though He is very good good luck with your choice mate
I'm confused, when people say "sideway" trading is no no.
Let say you have a premo that's underperforming, wouldn't it be better to swap that player with another premo who's performing well. And where else can you go, the player is already premo. You can't downgrade to a mid-pricer or a rookie.
I would understand if you have a mid-pricer that's underperforming, you'd want to trade that player to either a premo or a rookie for cash gen. A mid-pricer to another mid-pricer to me is more of a sideway.
I feel the word "sideway" are being too used and overrated.
Thats true but what if the so called premo dominates the first few weeks and is poor the back end..
Remember Montagna dominating a couple years back the first few weeks and then struggled, same with Bont
Then ideally you want to trade them to another premo that's performing and to me that's not sideway trading specially at the back end of the season. It's smart trading to get a better output for your team.
Yeah agree Donk, this week especially before the underperformer loses cash…and as you said later in the season as some are losing form and others gaining it.
Sideways is just a word, you've gotta do what works for you.
I agree russty, 1st two rounds are corrective trades either premos or rookies imo. Not so much for mid-pricer, we all need accept the fact of what you paid for the mid-pricer is what you get. They smash it for one or two weeks and then have a big turds for a few games. Just have to hold on to those mid-price players until your rookies have fatten up and move them on to premo. I see so many people in here rage trading mid-price to another mid-price.
I am guilty of exactly that this week..lol
Armitage to Ellis-Yoelman, reasoning is I'm hoping CEY will hit 400k by round 6 and Armo could stagnate and take much longer to make less money.
Also, I think the Saints will cop some severe hammerings early this season, and Crows will be dishing one out starting this week, reckon CEY has good js for a good month at least also.
Fyfe Captain?
Don't have Danger, Dusty or Titch Harry?
I have dusty and titch, but afraid of potential tags….
Fyfe averaging 135 against Suns
Put the vc on him
Trust your gut then mate, just hope they don't put Holman on him,,lol, he'll be tackling him every 2 minutes.
Put the VC on Cripps…
Last week Holman tagged Cripps yet scored nicely
l like Gawn today to.
Naaaah, I'm going Sicily. Or Olango, haven't decided yet.
Beams out.
If you have him perfect excuse to get rid of him
Is it worth doing JOM to Bonner?
Bonner or Murphy? Who will be better for cash generation in the long term?
Murphy cause he is way cheaper
Pulled the trigger on Brayshaw to Bonner. Only time will tel if a good trade. So now the question is Holman or Finlayson on field?
Banfield got awarded a free kick, but no stats in the kick column, hows that work?
actualy maybe he handbaled instead haha
Sweet Jesus….
Is it worth trading out naughton to loophole murrays 95? brayshaw and oliver are gonna leave my score in a bad spot, thoughts?
Don't do it
Do we take Garlett’s score (64) over Ryan
same question. take Garletts 64 or ryan?
Garlet got 61, 36 and 64.
Ryan got 38 and 115.
I'd rather bet on the guy who you already know can ton up, thinking Garlett is a bit Pickett like from last year.
DANGERFIELD PANIC STATION. my captain with 30 close to half time
Bugger, looks like I'll lose to Lekdog by about 100, the difference between having the C on Danger, or having it on Fyfe or Titch.
Got my loopholing wrong, paying the price.
Did the same. Ended on 2274 could have been so much higher. JKelly killing me underperforming.
Really a 90+ is 'killing you' and you finish with 2274………….much drama.
Will be interesting to see what the average is, I scored 2296
Already have Billings, Walters, D. Smith, McLean
Who do I bring in next in the FWD line?
Buddy Heeney
Thoughts on Gray and Greene over Heeney?
Greene is too much a risk in finals as he is prone to getting suspended during them
A Brayshaw out for another rookie?
Suggestions?
On my forward bench I have ZGL & Ryan and both are out, I am now considering to trade Ryan out to bring in Henry or Ratugolea as it looks as though Ryan will be out for several weeks.
Thoughts community?
Trade Dow to Higgins/Coffield next week, or trade him out now to Ed Richards via DPP?