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Round Three SuperCoach Panic Room

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SuperCoach starts NOW, Community!

We spent many, many weeks ruining our eyesight looking at the unreasonably small video streams of JLT games, all for carefully crafting the “perfect” SuperCoach lineup for 2018. Now we’ve had two weeks to assess how they’ve performed. Smashed it out of the park first two weeks? Good stuff. Marvellous. Not gone so great? No reason to panic. SuperCoach is won by smart trading, rage trading, and stupid sideways moves. That’s where you’ll make up ground while the leaders bask in the glory of having the best team in April.

Now’s the time to be ruthless. It’s time to look your team square in eye and cut the dead weight. It’s time to get in the guys who will give you a solid foundation for the rest of the year.

Your first order of business this week is to get your rookies right, as discussed in the podcast they are four rookie kings you need. Doedee, Fin, Kelly, and Holman. The rest? Ehhh, there’s really no point chasing anyone else. You can then look at corrective trades and jumping on midpricers you may have missed. Always do your research here, Community. Ask yourself why this premium is suddenly sucking, and why is this mid pricer suddenly scoring like a premo?

Try as I might to bring you a happy positive panic room. Matt Crouch faces time on the sidelines and needs to go. Sicily will also miss a week through suspension. Though I’m inclined to hold him, you picked him knowing he was a flog and this flog will still make you cash. Reckon he’s on his last chance though. There’s also Zerrett and Hibberd worrying a few. Out of the two, I think Hibberd needs to go. His role is different, if you knew this two weeks ago you might have reconsidered paying top dollar for him. Though there’s some selection news this week that might just sway you towards keeping him.

There has been a TONNE of information on the site this week to help you navigate through this week. The podcast kicked off what is arguably the most important week in SuperCoach, Barron gave us the lowdown on the rookie situation and Sloane and Damo have combined once again to bring us captain choices and trade targets for this week.

THE NEWS

The Big Kruuuuuuuze is back and confirmed to lineup tomorrow night along with Matt Kennedy. Cam O’Shea has fallen victim to the last one in, first one out rule of thumb. Remember when the guy was all the rage preseason? The Pies regain Been Reid and Cox but lose Darcy Moore to injury.

Mitch Robinson is straight back in for the Lions after his one week holiday, I suspect he’ll be having many more throughout the year. The Dees have recalled Sam Frost which is interesting for Hibberd owners. Does this allow him to go back to being more a rebounder?


Pearce Hanley fused his shoulder with a fence that was meant to see him out until round 5-6, he’s back for the suspended Jack Bowes.

An injured Bradley Hill makes way for Freo in their only change. The Giants will replace Tom Scully with Jacob Hopper, while ZGL is out with a busted hand. Toby Greene must have a bloody tight hammy, he hasn’t been named.

The Saints have slammed the panic button and will trust Rowan Marshall to go against Sam Jacobs on Saturday night. Good luck buddy. Richo has also handed a debut to Nick Coffield. Hunter Clark will remain on the bubble for at least another week. Jack Steele and Koby Stevens have been dropped. For the Crows, Darcy Fogarty is goneski for Tom Lynch, and Richard Douglas is handy replacement for the injured Matt Crouch.

On Sunday, the Tigers and the Hawks will have a minimum of six changes between them. The SuperCoach relevant Sicily, Caddy, and Corey Ellis among them. My boy Jack Higgins is confirmed to debut and I can finally take Dion Prestia off the pine in my draft league. Dave Mirra has again been named on an extended bench for the Hawks. Of their 7 named ins, 6 are on the extended bench. Cheers, Clarko!

Neither of the Eagles or the Cats have confirmed outs as yet, but Tom Cole is a chance to debut. The Dogs have been dealt a blow to their already thin “ruck” department, losing Roughead and Trengove but regain Tom Boyd. Essendon haven’t confirmed any outs as yet, but their ins won’t lead you to a panic trade.

HOUSE OF EVIL

The breakeven section was going to be titled The Upside Down but I’ve had a brainwave. While thinking of good and bad things in Stranger Things I could use as categories, my brain started with the “that’s good / that’s bad” scene from The Simpsons and thus, the House of Evil was born.

As mentioned, Tim Kelly, Tom Doedee, Nick Holman, and Jeremy Finlayson all have breakevens of -120 or above! All absolute non-negotiable must haves this week.

These guys come with a free frogurt (that’s good!)

-84 – Liam Ryan

-60 – Lachie Fogarty

-57 – Sam Murray

-56 – Jake Waterman

-52 – Lachlan Murphy

-51 – Bayley Fritsch

-48 – Zac Fisher

-44 – Riley Bonner

-42 – Bailey Banfield

-3 – Andrew Brayshaw

9 – LDU

25 – Aaron Naughton

33 – Paddy Dow

 

These premiums contain potassium benzoate (that’s bad!)

Zach Merrett – 241

Tom Rockliff – 239

Dayne Zorko – 221

Marc Murphy – 216

Taylor Adams – 202

Dayne Beams – 200

Brandon Ellis – 193

Sam Menegola – 194

Michael Hibberd – 175

Lachie Neale – 158

Nat Fyfe – 157

Josh Kelly – 146

 

As a final note, the man, the myth, the legend, Old Ocker has just casually dropped a stat lovers wet dream. His preseason spreadsheets were a thing of beauty and it’s here for you now to try and get your head around it.

 

SMOOTH KEVY’S LOCK OF THE WEEK


Jarrod Witts wasn’t awful last week so the lock gets dusted off for another week.

Patrick Dangerfield, Clayton Oliver, JPK, Nat Fyfe, and Tom Mitchell led the way in average contested possessions last year. Champion Data loves the guys that get the pill themselves over the uncontested variety, so it makes sense to target this stat when looking at guys to trade in.

Tom Mitchell is already averaging 25 a game, although at 653k he might be out of reach for some. Patrick Cripps is much more affordable at 537k and is averaging 22.5 a game. He was followed around by Holman on Saturday and the Blues lost by 5 goals, but he still scored a handy 115 on the back of 20 contested possessions.

I said in the preseason that it would be tough for Cripps to improve his already amazing stats even more, it’s a small sample size but this year he’s averaging +5 disposals, +9 contested possessions, and +3 clearances compared to last year. While lifting his TOG% from an already impressive 83.5% to 88%. All of that equals don’t listen to me!

I don’t expect him to continue racking up 20+ contested possessions a game (now that I’ve said this, expect 30 contested against the Pies…), his bye and relatively safe floor makes him a good inclusion into your midfield.

 

HEY NOW, YOU’RE A DRAFTSTAR!

Last weeks lineup was hit hard by the early injury to Matt Crouch and Bachar Houli just straight up sucking. Just over 28k of our salary returned 82DS. Not great and the ideal lineup fell off the pace pretty quickly.

A common trap in Draftstars is feeling you need to spend all of your salary to get the most bang for your buck. This is definitely not the case, like SuperCoach pick a line up that you’re confident will score well, rather than stressing over the 1k you have left over.

The Battle of the Bridge is on Saturday night, this is the ideal lineup according to Fantasy Insider.

A midfield stack looks the way to go in this game. There are 4 players currently averaging over 110 – Coniglio, Whitfield, Kelly, and Parker, and a further 5 more averaging between 90 and 101 – Taranto, Heeney (both fwd eligible) Shiel, JPK, and Ward. Stuff as many of these guys into your lineup as you can and hope you hit the right combination.

Here’s my take on the game.

While Sinclair has had a good start to the year, slotting in Lobb as your ruck allows you to squeeze Tim Taranto (MID/FWD – $11,250) into your forwards. He’s been magnificent so far, scoring 91DS and 112DS, averaging 27.5 touches a game.

Finlayson is only 1 of 4 mids under 10k so I expect him to be highly owned, but it does mean both defensive options are a bit shit. Rampe and Grundy are averaging 45 and 37.5DS respectively so far this year. I hoped for Robbie Fox to keep his spot but he’s out and thrown my plans right out the window. Finlayson and Hopper are the only two mids under 10k for the clash, cheap plays need to be in the forward or defensive lines.

Maybe Will Hayward (FWD – $7,250) or Ollie Florent (FWD – $7,000) could be the way to go? Hayward has gone 79DS, 30DS, while Florent has gone 24DS, 83DS. Which one? Uhhhh, Florent… I think. Maybe?

Adam Tomlinson (DEF – $9,750) is the second best averaging defender behind Lloyd and costs 3k less. I’ll be trying to include him in my lineup.

Player to avoidBuddy is 16k and while his ceiling is yuuuuuuge, he can also tank hard. It also means putting your trust into a cheapie and there aren’t many to pick from on this slate.

A quick shoutout to Stacy of Brockers Boys for leading the way in the JR Community group with an overall ranking of 73! (Code: 505844. Jump in if you haven’t yet).

Best of luck this week, community!

Twitter: SC_Kev7

 


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BloodyFranklin

Pray for my footy tips.

BloodyFranklin

Nup… my tips are going as well as Collingwoods spelling.

… Might just have to call it a nihgt 😴

Russty_

I'm 6 for 6 so far, just gotta hope the Hawks beat the Tigers and I'll be home and hosed ! 🙂

Defying_Madness

I hope we beat the tigers as well. Good luck with your tips

Morzaaa

Whats the go with Duncan?? Cant seem to find any decent info on his hammy!!!

SC anaylsis pro

I just don't understand all the fuss of Tom Mitchell being a must have.
I mean he averaged 105 back in 2016, solid but doesn't scream pick me.
In 2017 if you takes out his 100's he only averaged 87. 87? Excuse me for wanting a but more from my premiums.
Even this year if you take out his best 2 scores he hasn't scored anything! Way to small sample to make any of the bold statements I'm hearing.
Remember, Sydney wouldn't have let him go if he was the Superman every one seems to be making him out to be. I'll pass thanks

SC_Kev7

If you take out his 100's from 2017 that's taking out 20/22 games 😜

A player hitting a 100 90% of time is pretty bloody handy!

TRIGGA_HAPPY

My mancrush for titch is well documented.
Wrote an article on him presaeson.
20/22 scores over 100 with a low of i think 87.

Doesnt know how to have a bad game.
Nearly 100 possessions in first two games with an uplift in kicks and goals in first two rounds.
Leading everyone including dusty after two rounds for points scored so far.
A lazy 50 ahead of clarey.

Played for Sydney in 2016 where he shared points with the fab 4. Now numero uno.

But i guess if you take all that away he is having an ordinary couple of years.
In my eyes Titch is up to scratch.

BrownlowBoy

Yeah you make a good point. He's only been getting 50 touches. He really needs to convert those half centuries into big centuries to be worth selection.

INPieman

Before you start your SC research learn how to spell "analysis"

uDonkey

Yeah i want my premiums to have at least 70 possessions a game. 50 just doesn't cut it for me.

Tyruddanaut

It doesn’t matter how many touches they get; they will never be as good as Levi Casboult

neil demons delight

What a load of cods SC. He is challenging Martin and Danger and Oliver( must throw him in) for no.1 Cause it was written jockingly sic wasn't it

Derek

If you took all the games that Zac Dawson scored over 100 in his average would be 105.
(Sample size of one)

Tyruddanaut

I had Zaco every season tyvm

SC analysis pro

OMG. I seem to have hit a nerve with everybody's flavour of the month player
By the way gentlemen, I hold a Bachelor's Degree in Data Analysis. Just out of curiosity, what are your qualifications?

Nuggety

My qual is not being a flog..

redherringfc

I actually have a masters in being a flog.

I’ve just enrolled in a phd in Flogg-offery, going to do my thesis on the misinterpretation of sarcasm for fact amongst the supercoach community.

Derek

I got what you were saying and thought it funny.

It’s friday afternoon in the Panic Room, no time for funny stuff

Its a Nerd

well congratulations professor i'm sure that will be very useful topic at the dinner table

The Ranger

I wrote my PHD on machine learning but I'm still crap at supercoach.
I've also got a First Aid certificate and recently did some Practical Portable Fire Extinguisher Training.

gator59

I have a black belt in Karate and a gold medal in the commonwealth games, Well maybe not but will the Ettamogah Pub games do …Also have a motorbike. Truck and Forklift license… So am I over qualified or under

neil demons delight

One hardly needs a degree to succeed in supercoach just a good memory good research and LOADS of LUCK I would back that against jake's stupid degree

Tyruddanaut

Hold on, hold on….
Loads of l….
Luck…..
loads….
Of luck
No……
You, my friend, obviously don’t have a PhD in biology

redherringfc

Degree in pure mathematics.

Tyruddanaut

I have a major in Commerce and an undergraduate degree in Data Analysis

paul

I am statistical Analysis And the probability of item Mitchell improving his average taken on samples from last year and this indicates to me you are wrong Sc analysis pro.His past years 2015/ 2916 averages of 104 at the Swans age 21 saw limited midfield time as the swans had an efficient engine room thus lack of hot spot time in the guts.This is the key element of change which your Bachelor Degree in Data analysis will not expose.In 2017 sample Mitchell jumped in average from a constant of 104 at the swans to a staggering 118.9. WHY. At the prime age of 24 for supercoach not an apprentice anymore he is now controlling the midfield for the Hawks.Time in the engine room plus experience increases the likelihood of sample Mitchell improving his average again this year.The equation difference you don't have with figures is HOT spot TIME, EXPERIENCE and CHANGE.

hedski

Close to, if not the funniest comment of the year. Love it.

gator59

Cheers Hedski..

hedski

I meant Sc Anaylisis Pro's Gator, (yours was good too) 👍

Browncow

Definitely thread of the year so far. Love it.

lachy

You don't understand then. Mitchell only averaged 104 because Sydney hated the shit out of him. He would gather 60 disposals in the seconds every week.

Locked and Loaded

This has to be the funniest comment I’ve seen on this page lol degree in data analysis are you sure about that? This has to be a bit of fishing by the lad

hedski

And he caught a boat load.🐟🐟

Tyruddanaut

It’s great how everyone is falling for this obvious troll

Westy

Naughton and D Fogarty out
Murphy and Venables in for an extra 90k cash plus however much they go up.
28 trades left.
Sticking with Hibberd and Zorko for one more week just to see.

Northerner

Solid trades, squarely focused on cash generation. That’s absolutely number 1 objective this time of year all this premium swapping that goes on is not worth it.

Matt

Are these good trades?
ZGL – Ryan
Keeffe – Murphy

Or should I just hold?

INPieman

Looks like Ryan has good JS. Not sure about Murphy. One quiet game & he's likely to get dropped

TRIGGA_HAPPY

Got gallucci waiting in the wings.

Matt

Cheers for the response pieman! I agree on Murphy, do you reckon it would be a wasted trade then? Is it better to wait for a rookie with better JS?

INPieman

Probably only need 4-5 games from Murphy from here. But will he last that long. Brett Eddy scars are still fresh. Perhaps wait for something more sure

David C

See how Ed Richards goes in his second game for the doggies. Might have better JS the way the doggies are going.

Sc_Wow

You might as well Keeffe isn't doing much

Tyruddanaut

Yes

Marcus

Sitting on both Greene and Sicily in my forward line
Worth punting 1 or safer just to hold?

TheGreatBozza

Option 1:
Fiorini > Gray (garlett DPP to mids, allows me to move Holman on to field over playing an extra FWD rookie)
Thomas > Ryan

Option 2:
Lambert > Gray/Heeney
Thomas > Ryan

Option 3:
Fiorini > Danger
Lambert > Ryan

Jackel

Option 2 with Gray easily. Very good double

SC anaylsis pro

Sorry just looked at Option 1 again, that's actually better cos you get Holman on ya field. Gray and Ryan in is very good either way

TheGreatBozza

I'm torn between 1 & 2. I think having Holman on the field outweighs having a combo of Thomas and Fiorini. Both have been punching out 70's with 20 touches a week. I think Fiorini has a higher ceiling

Rhys

If you trade out Fiorini he'll get 100 in his next game

pod

Option 3 for that bloke Danger he goes alright

Tyruddanaut

Option 2 with Heeney would be ideal.
Heeney is going to be the top scoring non-key forward-forward in the game at the rate

Ahmad rubas

Def:
Hurley laird hibberd Bonner finlayson doedee (Murray emg Murphy)
Mid:
Danger C Kelly Fyfe Cripps VC coniglio brayshaw Kelly Holman (Dow emg banfield Clark)
Ruck:
Gawn Goldstein (olango)
Forwards:
Heeney billings smith petracca Christensen Ryan (Fritsch emg Langdon)
30 trades 67k
problems: no dusty or titch and underperforming hibberd also dow and Clark are poor rookies
Ideal trade is downgrade hibberd to a rookie and upgrade Clark to dusty but no worthy rookie to downgrade hibberd to.
Would the best move be trading Clark to Barry and save the other trade? I could also not use any trades if Dow performs really well Friday night and use Clark as a loophole

Sc_Wow

Good luck getting dusty and Tich in

Ahmad rubas

Yeah I'll need it I've stuffed up by not starting them just have to hope they have bad games and drop in price which in titch is case is unlikely as he is a ton machine

Tyruddanaut

Hibberd is having a role change this week, hold
I’d actually hold completely. You have a good team structure and shouldn’t get caught up in sideways trades

Ahmad rubas

Ended up using no trades. Not by choice though didn't have service to make any trades during Friday and Saturday. Annoyed I missed out on Barry first price rise so have to wait for another rookie I guess

James

Hold Bont or sideways to Cripps? Doesn't look like being a top 10 mid this year

CJudd3Votes

Bont no longer getting 20 points extra a game from being Champion Data's love child. Over rated in my opinion so it probably comes down to whether you think the dogs are going to keep getting trounced or turn it around as he doesnt strike me as the kind of guy that will score well in a losing side

Sc_Wow

The big pig to ton up this week, if he lifts I'll be cracking 2500's

INPieman

Which pig?

Sc_Wow

Piggy Hibberd

uDonkey

Liking his chance of lifting this week SC_Wow. He's back in my team

INPieman

I'm undecided still if I will get rid of him. I'll knock a few pints over thinking about it. If I do it's straight to Simmo

Sc_Wow

I'm not 100% sold on anyone to replace him with, and feel he has to lift. Hopefully can get back to his old ways, just a couple 120s will boost him right back up there.

Mike

He's gone from my team… replaced by Simmo!

neil demons delight

you need both

Vinny

What should i community? Only have 9,000

Matt Crouch to Clayton Oliver

OR

Naughton to M.O’Connor/Ed.Richards
Matt Crouch to Tom Mitchell (already have Dusty and danger)

OR

Matt Crouch to a Cripps ( around that value)
Naughton to Bonner.

OR

Hold both, start LDU on field for crouch for three weeks

Would love other suggestions or any advice on the above three trades. Thanks for reading 🙂 It’s Panic time!!!

Sc_Wow

You'd want to get Tich in

HammerTime

get cripps and bonner

uDonkey

Thank goodness, reverse button still works. Welcome back to my team Hibbo. Pederson and Hunt being drumped, Lewis has been moved to center bounce hope he stays there and Vince will be pushing up the ground more. Lever and Hibbo will have field day in the backline.

Oh! My 3yo deleted my account. Tried to recover it, had no luck. Oh well!

neil demons delight

Wise move doncs I THINK you will find Frost will take the 2nd tall and Lewis will stay mids Lever will be THE sweeper

Peter

Two questions:

– Should I trade Naughton to Bonner?

– Should I downgrade Paddy Dow to another rookie for cash (I have all of the key ones, thinking L Fogarty if named)?

HammerTime

if youve got all the key rookies then hold Dow IMO. He will play a decent amount of games and get better each time he plays. I reckon he will score well tonight 😉

KSinny

Hibberd to Shaw or Ryan and Langdon to Fisher
OR
Hibberd to Simpson and Langdon to Ryan (WCE) ?

Caleb

I know cash generation is key.
Do I hold Langdon or trade??
I can swing garlett from mid to fwd n grab a midfielder or another fwd rookie.
My rookies are brayshaw banfied kelly Holman Barry Garlett fritsch and Langdon obviously.
Do I wait for Higgins or go someone on the bubble. Who am I missing?

Derek

I have same problem. Only rookie I would consider is Ryan only because of the big jump in price he will get in the next 2 weeks because of his massive score last week.

I usually would chance points like that, but Langdon could be out 4-5 weeks and with Higgins playing this week and on the bubble in 2 weeks need to have someone to trade.

The only other issue is Langdon is a useful loophole this week for Fritsch. After this week GWS plays too early for him to be any use.

Derek

Wouldn’t

Armonk

Can bring any mid in for Crouch but not sure if I should mind my dollarydoos or get the players I know will be there come the end of season.

Currently have Martin, Zerrett, Oliver, Fyfe, plus Crouch and rookies.

Looking at Cheap (Conigs), Middle (Parker, Cripps, Selwood) or Uber (Danger, Titch).

What do you all reckon. Save the money or splash out?

Nuggety

Im in a very similar position. I'm leaning towards Oliver only because he's like for like and don't want to throw out my structure. But geez Cogs looks like a steal atm…..

Armonk

If I grab Coniglio I can move Naughton up to Luke Ryan next week which if I get any of the others isn't possible. I think that might sway it for me.

Nuggety

I like it

Derek

You will sleep better with Danger in your team. He is a lot of dollars though

JJJ

Have a bit of a pickle, no real "need" to trade, but I feel like i may miss the boat on some key cash cows. Have 222K in the bank, team as follows:
Def: Laird, Hurley, Finlayson, Dodee, Murphy, Murray, naughton and Coffield who debuts this week
Mid: Dusty, Titch, J Kelly, Fyfe, Parker, Congilio, T Kelly, Holman, Brayshaw, Banfield, LDU
FWd: Billings, Walters, Dev smith, Sicily, Taberner, Jarrad Garlett, Fritsch, Stephenson,

Everyone is playing, no one is losing money.

But do I need to get for cash gen purposes: Bonner, Liam Ryan or Allen Christenses?
I can go naughton or Coffield straight to Bonner
I can Swing Sicily back and bring in Liam Ryan
I can go Tabener down to Liam Ryan or Allen Christensen.

I have made one trade, flipped Kreuzer for Nic Nat (largely because i thought i would need to upgrade tabener, then he dropped 100)

Any advice?

Derek

The cash is made by the cheap rookies.

Bonnar, Christensen & Fisher are very expensive and will very quickly hit their ceiling. You then have to decide how long you keep them.

They should score better than the cheap rookies, so if you are chacing points and you have the cash available instead of leaving it in your Danger-Bank, not a bad idea.

I would wait for Higgins in a couple of weeks, Bailey and Wilson should play soon and make cash with those boys once the current cheap rookies have all hit their ceilings.

neil demons delight

Ellis and Sicily out 700k thank you now 2 options this is where my learned coaches come in
1 martin and murphy Martin is overs and murphy though a cash cow wont be there shortly or
2. Shaw and Fisher Shaw is way unders and has hit form and Fisher both a cash cow and great J S also this is better bye coverage. How many defensive cows do we need a good forward cow is crucial amid all the fwd crap . HARD NOT TO TAKE MARTIN but ZORKO in 2 weeks should ease it somewhat what do you guys think cheers fellas

Tyruddanaut

I am really considering Cam Ellis-Yolmen

• Averaged 87, including a 97 last week against Richmond
• Has an easy line-up before R7 when I am to trade him for Lance Franklin. This line-up consists of St. Kilda, Collingwood, Sydney, Suns, Carlton
• Matt and Brad Crouch's injury means more midfield time for him
• The only con is Fritsch gets fielded instead of Brayshaw

Thoughts?

Sc_Wow

wasting 2 trades bring him in and out, doesn't make sense

Tyruddanaut

Mid priced cash cow

Sc_Wow

You'd be trading brayshaw out for him? really think there will be much of a cash generation difference to justify that?

Tyruddanaut

I’d be trading out Langdon for him.
I mentioned Brayshaw because it means that with Garlett moving forward to make room, Brayshaw will have to be benched over TK and Holman.
I might trade back Langdon later depending on my teams scoring and other factors

Sc_Wow

I would never jump on a mid pricer, just leave Langdon or get another cheap rookie, one of the WC boys

Tyruddanaut

I’ve decided against Ellis-Yolmen but am choosing Bonner instead. I think they will average similar and gain similar prices but getting in a defender fits my structures better. So much better

Sc_Wow

Again Bonner isn't another one I'd be chasing based off cash making purposes. I've started with him but wouldn't chase if I didn't have him. Trades are value you want to use them to get pros in, not upgrading to a mid priced cash cow if thats what you want to call it. Thats the last ill say on it though because you'll just ignore it anyways

Tyruddanaut

Okay, I’ll think about it a bit more

Tyruddanaut

I have decided against this.
Even though it might generate me more cash, it won’t work for my future plans regarding rookies

CJudd3Votes

Anyone else heard Hurley could be in trouble?

Derek

He only ran a few laps during the week at training. Has been named though

lachy

He is playing. He did it heaps last year, they have him on a program every time just to ease his back pain.

Scott

Naughton > Murphy
Dow > L.Fogarty

Are these trades worth doing. Worried about the job security of both fogarty and murphy. But I have all the other rookies. Could possibly trade in Gowers via DPP instead, but then job security comes into play again.

Tyruddanaut

Murphy has good security compared to a few, but I doubt Fogarty will play this week

Do you have all of: TK, Holman, Garlett, Banfield, Finlayson, Barry, Ryan, Fritsch, English, Venables and Gowers?
I would choose all of them over Fogarty

Scott

Don't have the last 3. Ill definitely be trading Naughton to Murphy.
Is Dow worth keeping? Or trade and try and grab some money from one of those last 3 rookies you mention

Tyruddanaut

Dow probably isn’t. Very few of the top 10 are. I’d choose English before the rest

Dave

Who should I trade out for lambert?
A) Devon smith
B) Coniligo (already have Whitfield)
C) bonner
D) Walters
Also feel free to suggest some others…
Cheers

Dave

I mean in btw

Tyruddanaut

I’d have to go with Smith.
He scores the same as Walters
He will be a keeper unlike Bonner
He will keep your forward line strong unlike Coniglio

Saundo

Trade Greene?

Jose

Is Luke Ryan a must have?

Tyruddanaut

No.
Defensive options this year vary from person to person and to claim a second year player as a keeper after two games is too presumptive

Jose

Shit I meant Liam Ryan the rookie

Connor

Dusty or Oliver??

If I go Dusty I will have 8 premiums out for RD 14 Bye…

Sc_Wow

do you have billings and savage?

Connor

Yes why?

Sc_Wow

Just guessed, that would make rd 14 tough. Its on of the resigns I'm not touching those two

Derek

Go Oliver then.

He will get heavy tag this week though.

Tyruddanaut

Just saying, but there are 8 bench spots.
You can have up to 12 players out for the bye rounds if you want

Connor

It's the fact that there are 8 premiums out though – that's a lot of points

SC_Donkey

Ideally you'd want 4 or 5 premos(keepers on each bye rounds) that's not playing. You have rookies and mid-pricer to consider during those 3 rounds too. Any more than that you'll be falling behind during bye rounds.

Tyruddanaut

How many in the midfield (for R14 bye)?
If you have 1-3 in the Mid then Dusty, if more then Oliver

Petracconaldo

Hey guys
Have my mind set on using my first 2 trades to replace Crouch and Lambert, but not sure whether to go for:
A- Heeney and Martin (40k in bank)
B- Westhoff/Walters and Macrae (170k in bank)
C- Westhoff/Walters and Coniglio (300k in bank)

Any other suggestions would be handy, thanks

Petracconaldo

(Midfield consists of Mitchell, Kelly, Oliver, [Crouch], Brayshaw, TKelly and Holman)
(Forward consists of Billings, McLean, Smith [Lambert], Stephenson and Fritch)

Sc_Wow

the first, both of those are leaders in their positions

Tyruddanaut

Easily A)
Dusty is a king who doesn’t get tagged, kicks well and plays hard. His inconsistency must be noted though.
Heeney is an inside midfielder, might as well be free points for the forward line

Petracconaldo

My heart lies with option A, but i was intrigued by Macrae. Is he a guy that i should get now or at the bye rounds?

Tyruddanaut

He’s got the R12 bye which is ideal

Petracconaldo

Thanks lads, appreciate the pointers

SC_Donkey

Option A is a solid pick. Looking at your mids and fwd Heeney and Dusty fits right in during bye. You only have Billings Rd 14, assuming you have Laird in the back. 4 premos Rd 14 bye is perfect

Stupid Coach

Great job with the Panic Room this week. I feel this is the place to be where I can get some good advice on which of the following trades I need to do this week to make the best possible start to the leagues that I am in. Here are my options:
1) McGrath to Bonner and Townsend to Christensen – great cash generation just not sure about points generation.
2) McGrath to Bonner and Zerett to Titch. Some cash generation but also points generation and captain option.
3) Townsend to Christensen and Naughton to Bonner. Cash generation, McGrath stays but I don't get titch.

Really need any help/ advice that anyone in the community is willing to give. Cheers

Sc_Wow

None of those trades look good at all, double sideways on all 3 of them.
If you really want to trade option 1 or 3 but have one of those players going down to a rookie and the other to a premo lock

Tyruddanaut

I wouldn’t choose Christensen, he’s only had the one good game from two. Averaging 80. Not enough for his price
I also wouldn’t trade Zerrett. You might want him back later when he finds his form. Especially if he finds it soon

I would like to see your team, but from what you gave me, I would only trade Townsend.
But to either:
Fritsch, Ryan, English, Garlett in that order
Or if you want that 250k player then Ellis Yolmen, Fisher and Bonner are looking good, hopefully you can get them with DPP

Derek

If I really had to make a choice it would be #3.

GreendaleFC

Dislike the first two options. For option 3), is there anyone else that you can get instead of Christensen? Do you have all the important rookies?

Tom

Which set of trades are better?
1. Mills – Ryan (via sicily) and Keeffe – Murphy

or

2. Mills – Curnow and ZGL – Ryan

mO'meara Mo'problems

Should I make O'Maera into Coniglio if it means trading Brayshaw down to Dom Barry (BE of -37) and keeping Zac Langdon, who I figure will come back into the team in a month and be a cow ready to cull, handily, after I've finished culling all the others.

Derek

trade Langdon before Bradshaw. Can you? Or no DPP.

Tyruddanaut

Yes? Is there anything else you can do? O’Meara should be held for a couple of weeks longer

mO'meara Mo'problems

No DPP, and there's nothing else to do. Team's travelling really well at the moment. Just wondering whether it's worth making those trades to jump on Cogs at 450. JOM isn't looking like he'll increase significantly in value, and if Barry can hold his spot he could end up peaking at the same height of Brayshaw. Two trades to go from JOM the stepping stone (he was always intended to be one) to Cogs the potential keeper.

Dean

I have Rocky, Greene, Rayner and Naughton? What is priority?

Sc_Wow

Just focus on perfect 9

Nuggety

Definitely rayner. Then probably Rocky before Greene just..

TheGreatBozza

Rocky
Greene
Rayner
Naughton

In that order – Rocky has been hopeless, Greene has injury cloud. Naughton lower price point so could have better cash gen than Rayner

Rambo

Ryan or Waterman as a forward rookie?

Considering trading Naughton for Ryan/Waterman (via Keefe dpp) to create cash for an Armitage –> Coniglio upgrade.
I'm 2k off having enough cash by trading Keefe directly to Ryan! 🙁

Thoughts?

Sc_Wow

Ryan

Tyruddanaut

Hold Armitage. He has a relatively low BE and you can trade him for 50k more in a few weeks. You should trade Keeffe too if he isn’t named

Dimma

I started with a lot of cash in the bank, so i can upgrade both menangola and M.Crouch into Dusty and Oliver with 68k leftover (swinging Garlett mid to fwd). Would i be better off bringing in another fwd for menangola instead of stacking my mids early?
keepers before trade
Def 2
Mid 5
Ruck 2
Fwd 5 (Sicily missing 1 week)

Tyruddanaut

If you could bring in another back man, that would be ideal

Dimma

You're right, i can bring in Simpson which would bring a better balance to the side

Derek

14 keepers in starting team is impressive. I only had 11.

KSinny

I had 15 somehow

neil demons delight

Is Sicily a keeper though and hard to have 5 on the FWDS are smith walters petracca maclean keepers

BrownlowBoy

Final call to Hibberd owners. I'm still undecided.

What are we doing with him?

INPieman

I'm making the decision over half a dozen Pints. Which spells trouble for Hibberd

AuroraBorealis?!

Are you going to the game tonight Pieman?

Tyruddanaut

Trading. To Simpson to be precise.
Using the money pocketed and done. Only 50k but it’s enough. It’s the difference between Marc Murphy and Dusty. (It’s a bit far out but you get the drift.)

Mike

Traded him to Simmo

Dusty

Hold. Frost back in will free him up. Gotta remember he was on track for a ton last week, just had a poor last quarter.
Also scored 40+ points in the final quarter against Geelong getting plenty of the ball. I think the scoring potential is there.

Frankston Phil

Trading to Murphy Murry on ground Hunter Clark to Oliver.

Mystic Mac

Hibb to Simo

SC_Donkey

He's back in my team, I'm liking his chance of turning it around. Lewis is playing up the ground and hopefully he'll stay there for most of the season. Lever and Hibbo will be the main man in the back half. Vince will be pushing from the HB to the guts.

GreendaleFC

I'm holding. I think he'll improve and finish in the top 8 this year. Also I don't hugely like Ryan, Simmo, or Heater.

Derek

I am a “Future Hibbo Owner”

Holty

Same

StevoRivo

Hold. Trades are precious, and he will improve.

NoLanguage

Hold

Sc_Wow

Trade him to Simmo but only expect about 95-ish from Simmo tonite even though the ball will spend most of the night down there. I don't think Cripps will have a very good game tonite because I've heard whispers that Pendle will be tagging him at stoppages. Will probably keep him below 100.
Grundy will monster Kreuzer and score over 150 is the best choice for VC.
It will be interesting to see who wins

Sc_Wow

You’re a genius

NovemberFoxtrotIndia

Can I please borrow your Crystal ball next week Wow.
Who's going to win the 4th at Randwick.
That's 4 from 4 above…

TommyC99

Ummm wtf that’s insane

Robert

If you haven't made a trade yet is Naughton to Bonner a good option, even if Bonner will likely not make final team at end of the year?

INPieman

Unlikely to be a top 6. So therefore you have to get him in & out. So that's 2 trades. Then downgrade a rookie for cash to go up. So you are actually using 3 trades most likely if you bring him in to turn him into a premo. You'd want a 200k price spike for that IMO. Not sure he can do that. But if you haven't used a trade & don't have any other issues he looks pretty good

Robert

Fair points, I'm basically treating it like a rookie correction in my mind (so it's effectively the same number of trades).

Just working out whether having $100k+ in my kitty as cash with small increases from Naughton is more beneficial than not much cash in the kitty but a player that should increase in price…

Defying_Madness

Everyone seems to not be considering the points that Bonner could produce on field compared to Naughton. Worth it IMO
Don't really want to have 50 odd scores on field.

pod

I started with Bonner and hope he does make around $200k with the points along the way. He could quite possibly be an D6 by seasons end if Port keep going.

POTS

Posted yesterday re Hibberd OUT but reconsidering.
Thinking now Brayshaw down to Liam Ryan (via Garlett) and Armitage up to Coniglio

Gibbs

Trade or Hold langdon? Not making any other trades this week

Steve

Lachie Fogarty or Lachie Murphy?

Ben

Is it worth trading Darcy Fogarty to someone like Waterman? Or just hold and hope he gets another game at some point. I already have Fritsch, Ryan and Garlett fwd rookies

Tiger

I’m in the same boat. I’m holding until either he plays or another rookie surfaces.

TheGreatBozza

I was holding all week but now I've got an itchy finger. Naughton to Bonner worth it? I've used one trade this year and got $170K bank.

I was all on board holding Naughton but i can see Bonner earning far more coin with a better score output

Clark

Is Mills – Curnow via sicily a worthwhile trade? Or should i just hold Mills until a premo drops in price?

Derek

That’s my plan. Surely he won’t score another 40?………..,

Clark

Yeah im leaning towards that Derek, but im also wary of how much Mills will drop,

Holty

Community. Please take a vote.
Ryan or Shaw?

Sc_Wow

For Hibb??

Holty

For Menegola. Need to strengthen defense. Will bring in Fisher or Taranto and drop Naughton

Sc_Wow

Still hard to pick the defenders I think, Hurley, Yeo, Laird should be up there. Fisher or Taranto will just be traded out again, think about it.

Holty

Agree with Fisher and Taranto. Reason i may go Fisher for some money and if he can average 80 ill be happy with. If he can make 150k ill be happy with as the way Naughton is going i doubt he will make that

The Ranger

Ryan for mine. Going with the youngsters these days Holty.

Greg

Who to start, Garlett, Ryan or Venables, no loopholes unfortunately!

Gord29

Crouch to Oliver or Cripps?

SC_Donkey

Both good picks, depends on your bye structure. You don't want have too many premos(keepers) having the same bye.

Lament326

Tom Cole has already played in previous seasons. Unless you mean to debut for season then yes that is possible. But he has already played multiple games fyi

Banga

Is Keeffe – Murphy worthwhile? Or should i leave Keeffe as a loophole until a rookie with better JS appears?

Rambo

Wait

Bill

What to do?

Trade ZGL to Barry via dpp this week

or

Trade ZGL to Higgins when he is on the bubble

Sc_Wow

You'd LOSE $13,000 ZGL to Higgins on the bubble, doesn't sound like a great option to me. I'll be looking at cashing in on Higgins

RougheadNSheSwallows

G'day community, need help with a few calls here, do I: Ditch Naughton and jump on Bonnar?
Ditch Hunter Clark and bring in Ryan?
Ditch ZGL and bring in Ryan?
Or not trade?
Cheers community!

SC_Donkey

I have $219K stashed, wondering if I should spend it on Mihocek to Bonner or keep it for future upgrade. That cash would come in handy in couple of weeks time to get Kreuzer.

Sc_Wow

Your team sounds horrible, probably best to save yourself the headache and just reassess next year

TheGreatBozza

Yeah nah I’m right. Went a bit left field and it didn’t pay off. I’ll be down trades but have a crack

Sc_Wow

A bit?

Saalih631

267k and 29 trades.

DEF: laird, hibberd, houli, doedee, murray, finlayson (o'shea, ballenden)
MID: Martin, mitchell, kelly, fyfe, cripps, whitfield, kelly, holman (brayshaw, garlett, Brodie)
RUC: Gawn, Naitanui (lavender)
FWD: heeney, mclean, smith, higgins, ryan, fritsch (keeffe, rioli)

I want to get my rookies right so im thinking either ballenden or keeffe to lachlan murphy and potentially the other one to either zac fisher or riley bonner (via finalyson and garlett dpp). thoughts?

dontblushbaby

Putting the VC on Fyfe , could go very large imo

KSinny

Wondering whether I should VC Fyfe or Cripps

AuroraBorealis?!

Collingwood dont tag so I'd be putting it on Cripps. Both viable options though.

NoLanguage

Hope you stuck with Fyfe. Cripps struggled

pod

Not sold on Fyfe going very large, just large. The Suns are a better team now.

Mitch

https://ibb.co/noTAgc
Any advice? Im inclined not to trade, i think ill hold hibberd hoping that he comes good.

Mitch

https://ibb.co/e8WP7H
Sorry heresthforward line

not SC_WOW

Community…Big game tonight! Will anybody be able to stop the American Wreaking Machine?

Dave

Murray or Finlayson on field community?

GreendaleFC

Finlayson easily

Derek

A lot of people bringing Bonnar in this week will have to bench Murray. He should do ok tonight.

Bonner a good selection for D3

Fearthebeard

Can I please get a few opinions on Brayshaw – Fisher?

I know it's a bit of a side wards trade with Brayshaw having breakeven of -2. Though Fishers is -48 and with the fact that he is named as follower leads me to think he could quickly push 400k+. Earning far more then Brayshaw will. (Yes Brayshaw could have one big game and push his up) though it is also far more likely that Fisher will have a big game before Brayshaw off the bench?

I have no real trades to force so it's just a move to make some quick cash while potentially giving me better scoring for now?

Being stupid ? Some logic? Fisher worth the punt?

Gareth Iggo

Undecided on menengola…
sideways trade to Robbie gray
Or menegola to zac fisher and upgrade Brayshaw to conigilo.
I still have 30 trades and my fwd line is currently:

Devon Smith, heeney, Billings, Walters, menegola, Ryan.

Thanks guys.

SirSamuel016

Should I trade Sandilands for Nic Nat or hold him? Leaning towards holding him as I don't want to make a sideways trade or burn a trade I might need later, but at the same time I feel like Nic Nat could consistently do better?

Tyruddanaut

Why would you choose Nic Nat?

He’s not going to get real game time for AGES

Andy

What the hell is wrong with Greene?

Tyruddanaut

Hamstring injury.
I think it’s just tightness though, nothing serious. Don’t take this as a true statement btw, I’m just going straight off my terrible memory

Lazza

He trained fine yesterday … was running freely … only missing this week as a precaution … will be back R4… which is why I’m holding him …

pod

There was a conversation on SEN today with the someone from GWS, said he's back in next week. It's a low grade hammy decided to rest him, not taking any chances at this stage of season.

BrownlowBoy

O'Connor dropped

Tyruddanaut

Final trades for this week:
Langdon—> Bonner

Derek

Will Bonnar be your D3 or D4?

With Bonnar at D4, means you have to bench Murray. He should do ok tonight.

Tyruddanaut

He is at D4 but Finlayson is in the midfield which means that Murray’s 91 half way through the 4th counts.

Defying_Madness

I will be going Naughton to Bonner and Langdon to Ryan.
Bonner will be my D3 and I will be loopholing Murray and Murphy for D6.

Tyruddanaut

I hope Murray did you well

Defying_Madness

Yeah I am really happy with his game

Jim_bob321

First time this season Armitage has been named in the centre bounce due to Richardson's axing …… perhaps reverse the trade from Armo to Cogs???

EasyMoneySniper

Hey Squad,
I need to bring a defensive rookie below about 140k, does anyone know if Ed Richards has decent job security, or should i just get Mirra or Mihocek and enjoy a defensive loophole until they get named?

Good luck this week lads

Derek

O’Conner has DPP

john

Naughton to Bonner and Brayshaw to Barry? Need to trade brayshaw to have cash to upgrade naughton. Or just hold Naughton and hope he scores half ok from here on?

Timothy

I have two non-playing rookies in ZGL and O'Connor. Is it worth trading Langdon to Ryan this week if Ryan is the only Rookie that I've missed out on?

GreendaleFC

I think it's worth it. ZGL should be a good downgrade target in about 4 weeks, and I'm not sure how many of those we will have. Ryan should be able to make a fair bit of money in the meantime with his 115 last week.

Richie Porte

Remember a few weeks ago when the majority of you experts recommended Veneables over Ryan. Well done

GreendaleFC

It's been two weeks and small forwards aren't exactly known for their consistency. No one can predict the future

Fisherdann

Venables is more of the midfield type.
Ryan's first game produced a score of 38. He won't kick 3 goals every week.