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HEROES, VILLAINS AND DAMNED

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Key forwards are one of the great paradoxes of SuperCoach.

A good day out and a bag of goals can reap immense rewards for owners, but inconsistent scoring is a well-known hazard.

It’s not uncommon for a spearhead up forward to go 150 SC one week, 50 SC the next.

As a rule of thumb, only a couple of blokes in this bracket are worth picking. One is Lance Franklin.

Could the other be Tom Lynch?

The blonde Gold Coast bombshell went bananas against the Blues on Saturday, slamming home eight majors for a rich return of 180 SuperCoach points.

Could this finally be the year he breaks out and presents himself as a consistent scoring option up forward? Time will tell.

 

The Heroes

Gun Suns captain Tom Lynch (180 SC) loves beating up on Carlton and that trend continued on Saturday when he slammed home eight goals and had 21 possessions. Fellow key forward Jesse Hogan (145 SC) was also dominant, booting five goals and clunking nine marks to help the Demons get over the line against a spirited Brisbane.

Winding back to Thursday night, Dustin Martin (160 SC) was imperious form, despite his Tigers going down to Adelaide. The Brownlow medallist kicked five goals to go with 25 touches, seven tackles, 14 contested possessions and seven clearances. Crows trio Rory Sloane (141 SC), Bryce Gibbs (127 SC) and Rory Laird (120 SC) all performed well for the victors.

Geelong couldn’t get the job done on Easter Monday but that didn’t stop their stars from having a day out, with the big three of Gary Ablett (144 SC), Joel Selwood (140 SC) and Patrick Dangerfield (130 SC) all dominating. For the victorious Hawks, it was ball magnet Tom Mitchell (148 SC) who again did the business. He had 40 disposals – 23 of them contest – to go with 13 clearances and two goals.

Several nice PODs performed well in the midfield, such as Gold Coast’s Jarryd Lyons (150 SC), who had 26 contested possessions and 14 clearances, and Port bull Ollie Wines (147 SC) who was prolific in his side’s win over the Swans. Even young Demon Clayton Oliver (146 SC) has low ownership numbers but that didn’t stop him producing a 35-touch, 22-contested possession, 11-clearance masterclass.

The sublime kicking of elite West Coast defender Shannon Hurn (138 SC) was a joy to watch on Sunday. He sliced through the Bulldogs’ zone with his 22 kicks and 10 marks coming at 89% efficiency. While the Dogs were woeful, a couple still stood out, with Jack McRae (142 SC) kicking three goals to go with 31 touches at 90% efficiency and Toby McLean (125 SC) finishing with 31 disposals.

Ruck behemoths Brodie Grundy (139 SC) and Todd Goldstein (123 SC) proved what many of us already knew – they do their best work alone. So steer clear please Mr Cox and Mr Pruest. Popular picks Stephen Coniglio (120 SC) and Nat Fyfe (120 SC) did not let their owners down with polished performances.

Other scores: Jeff Garlett (152 SC), Ed Curnow (148 SC), Ben McEvoy (139 SC), Jarryn Geary (128 SC), Jarrad Polec (125 SC), Jarrad Waite (125 SC), David Mundy (123 SC), David Swallow (121 SC), Jeremy Howe (121 SC), Shaun Higgins (120 SC).

 

The Villains

Michael Hibberd (72 SC) is causing his owners a lot of angst. He produced his second poor outing in a row and to put things in perspective, he has been outscored so far by basement-priced rookie defenders Tom Doedee and Jeremy Finlayson. If this sort of trend continues, Hibberd could well turn out to turn out to be like Heath Shaw last year.

Lions duo Stefan Martin (63 SC) and Dayne Beams (59 SC) are yet to recapture their best form while Sydney’s Jake Lloyd (71 SC) was also kept quiet by Port Adelaide. Freo giant Aaron Sandilands (42 SC) was poor despite his side’s big win, while popular Hawthorn pick James Sicily (62 SC) failed to back up his ton the week before.

Geelong’s Sam Menegola (55 SC) appears to be struggling with his new role given the power that’s in Geelong’s midfield and that was with Mitch Duncan out of the frame as well.

 

The Redeemers

Is Heath Shaw (110 SC) back? That’s the question many are asking. Those bold enough to take the plunge on 2017’s burn man will certainly be hoping so. It’s only a small sample size, but two tons in two weeks is a great start.

Adam Treloar (108 SC) has always been able to hunt the footy, but it’s his propensity to chop it up that often hinders his scoring. He kicked two goals and went at 75% efficiency, which is good for him.

It’s been a long road for Allen Christenson (101 SC) due to injury, but he gave his owners an exciting glimpse at his scoring potential by posting a triple-figure score.

Jason Johannisen (110 SC) didn’t receive much attention from the Eagles and performed well despite his side’s poor outing, while Port’s Robbie Gray (111 SC) spent more time in the midfield than usual and had a 10-tackle, 26-possession outing.

 

The Prodigies

Rejoice, it looks like we finally have a decent forward rookie option on our hands. Liam Ryan (115 SC) won’t score like this every week, but his three-goal performance should have his owners feeling optimistic. The West Coast excitement machine should only grow in confidence from here.

Defensive pair Tom Doedee (115 SC) and Jeremy Finlayson (106 SC) were again brilliant, with Doedee racking up 25 touches, 14 of them contested, at 96% efficiency. Nick Holman (92 SC) went close to another ton with an 11-tackle masterclass, while Geelong’s Tim Kelly (122 SC) is stating his case to become rookie of year with a 27-possession performance.

Adelaide’s Lachlan Murphy (80 SC) and North’s Luke Davies-Uniacke (77 SC) both improved on their Round 1 performances, while Collingwood pair Jaidyn Stephenson (64 SC) and Sam Murray (58 SC) produced about what was expected of them.

Forward options Jake Waterman (78 SC), Zac Giles-Langdon (65 SC), Bailey Fritsch (60 SC) and Daniel Venebles (59 SC) showed some promise, as did Dom Barry (62 SC) in the midfield.

Freo trio Adam Cera (61 SC), Andrew Brayshaw (62 SC) and Bailey Banfield (64 SC) were all pretty similar, with Cera in particular looking like a good prospect.

Other rookie scores: Billy Gowers (57 SC), Cameron Polson (50 SC), Ed Richardson (49 SC), Aaron Naughton (48 SC), Cam O’Shea (48 SC), Lachlan Fogarty (47 SC), Paddy Dow (46 SC), Darcy Fogarty (45 SC), Jarrod Garlett (36 SC), Tim English (33 SC), Willie Rioli (31 SC), Mitch Crowden (29 SC), Jack Henry (27 SC), Hunter Clarke (26 SC), Cameron Rayner (20 SC).

 

The Damned  

Matt Crouch (51 SC) has done his hamstring and looks set for a stint on the sidelines. His owners could hold him if they have bench cover, depending on the severity of the injury.

Tom Scully (19 SC) will be out long term with a badly broken ankle, while Tom Rockliff (17 SC) is clearly massively underdone. The once mighty SuperCoach force only managed nine possessions in Port’s upset win over Sydney.

 

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Saundo

Should I hold Rocky?

Derek

I wouldn’t

Corkscrew

If you havent traded yet, then i would be dropping him, crappy bye and I think port might have broke him

Dan

No. Get any of Parker, Cripps, Coniglio or even Steven if your rookie selections are pretty set.

Leeds17

what this guy said

Skinny McThin

Yes. Hold him under water for 10-minutes

Locked and Loaded

Here’s the dilemma! Team shaping up nicely but not happy with naughton not going to be useful enough… is Parker going to keep this up?
My idea is
Crouch —> Parker
Naughton —> Bonner

Thoughts?

Saundo

Bonner is good but with Pittard and Broadbent to come back not sure if his continued good output

Locked and Loaded

Might help him to be honest less attention who really knows though lol

David C

Yep, not sold on Bonner. Better of with a cheap rook like Ed Richards.

Derek

Crouch to Parker. No brainer.

I don’t have Naughton, but I say hold him. His 25 first round score will be gone next week so even if he scores 50’s and 60’s he will make you $100k.

I think he will improve. Already had a better game this week. You just need one good score from him to make good coin.

Bonnars big first round score will be gone next week. He is a very high priced rookie and I can’t see him giving a very good ROI. He was lucky to get over 70. If he continues with 70’s you will make a bit more cash than Naughton but not worth a trade. If you have Bonnar, you will feel as though you need to play him, where you can just park Naughton on bench and let him slow burn

THE SALTSHAKER

Bonner was on 68sc when he kicked that last goal, he ended up with 76. So id say unlucky to only get 8sc.

Buddy had 2 x outside 50m goals in a row coming from behind to get them within a couple in a match last year got 24sc and in the other game Bont takes uncontested mark in open goal square kicks goal in a game that puts them further ahead got 22sc or some crud??

Bonner was against Sydney away, he tagged Kennedy for a bit in the first then had a rest which chewed up his first qtr scores a bit. Would have liked to have seen him demand ball on way out a bit more seemed more defensive. Rising star rnd 1 surely they keep him in team.

Tyruddanaut

I was eyeing him before the season start but traded him out at the last second. It was to Coniglio though, soooo.
He looks the goods

Dean

Follow your nick name with those selections mate… I love it…

Pasta stRayner

Two round average of 2,418! Sees my best start to a season. Considering downgrading a disappointing O’Meara to Murphy for cash generation and building up my Dusty/Danger war chest. Any other trade suggestions??

Def:
Laird, Tuohy, Savage, Finlayson, Doedee, Murray (Naughton, Keefe)

Mid:
Mitchell, Oliver, Fyfe, Parker, Whitfield, O’Meara, Kelly, Holman (Brayshaw, Banfield, Barry)

Ruck:
Goldstein, Gawn (Cameron)

Fwd:
Billings, Greene, McLean, Smith, Sicily, Fritsch (Ryan, Garlett)

Derek

Great start. What is your rank?

JOM looks to be moving really well, but not getting enough of the footy. I’d hold. After Richmond the Hawks have a nice few games, he will do ok. Only paid $315k, he is better than that. He should make enough cash to be a stepping stone to a fallen premium around the byes.

A good start so you can afford to preserve your trades

TheGreatBozza

You’ve done well mate. Love the Whitfield pick, he’s been killing it off the half back flank so far. Like others have suggested I’d look at JOM to a Murphy via Finlayson to pad the bank. Holding JOM wouldn’t hurt either, he should improve with consistency

Dean

Pasta stRayner

Clearly you're killing it right now and it seems you have a decent game plan considering all your replies to others who have suggested other trade suggestions, just as you asked them to do.

Just stick with your game plan if you're only playing in a few cash leagues, you are in a great position to win the few grand even though its a long way away.
As long as you're not concerned about rank then their is no rush to bring Danger & Martin in. If it was about overall rank then thats a totally different ball game.

Good Luck…

pasta stRayner

Cheers mate, Don't mean to sound like I'm putting down the trade suggestions.. just trying to articulate the game plan and discuss them!
Happy with my position in the cash games and will still try get in Danger/Dusty asap as I still would love a good rank and a crack winning it all! I'll keep the community posted,. hope your team is off to a strong start!

StevoRivo

Another great write up Big Carl.

Do we hold or trade Lambert at F2?

BVB21

I am trading him out.

I thought he was a solid pick after last year and he looked like getting more midfield time but he’s just not producing

StevoRivo

Yep. I don’t like correction trades but he is about to lose $30k and I can’t see him getting past 90 avg right now.

nickgonzalez771

I was all for holding him, but I had a way of getting rid of Naughton and Lambert and getting Dusty and Murphy in return. I think if you've got a plan to get something back in return which looks more promising then go for it, perhaps a left-of-centre move like a Taranto or Westhoff. Otherwise it might just be a sideways move which won't pay off. Lambert has the tank and every chance of reaching that potential we were looking for.

David C

Yeh, I traded him to Taranto to beef up the bank balance so I can pounce on Danger when the moment is right. Lambert is getting plenty of midfield minutes but just isn't scoring and Prestia has to come back in as well. Holding Hibberd for now but can't hold too many under performing players so Lambert is gone.

Corkscrew

I know should be avoiding sideways moves and also backing premo selections, but hibberds role has changed jordan lewis is kicking out and playing loose behind the ball, and kade simpson is doing his best docherty impersanation so should i just go for it now?…simpson will probably be 600k plus after the byes and hibberds price could tank? Held on shaw and johannisen last year and it killed me

THE SALTSHAKER

2296
cap GOAT 288sc
Had Finlayson + ryan on bench so missed 127sc

Villain JOM has to go just floats too much, Brayshaw to T.Kelly, JOM to Cripps next week.

Armitage getting robbed IMO. Happy with Nank.

Russty_

You mean this week, next week Kelly will be 250K

Daniel

Probably closer to 210k (if he scores around his average).

THE SALTSHAKER

Agreed this week, before next game. Im not missing Kelly a 2nd time i was meant to Brayshaw out Kelly in but went to bed, and thought about next day was my first thought but then did other things and game started and that was that

Andy

Rayner to Murphy
Rocky to Oliver/Cripps/Parker ?

fcabel

Yes twice. I’m unsure who to bring in for rocky. Between those three I think. Trying to pick which one will score more is tricky

Shane

Like them all but Oliver more pod

David C

Oliver the best but Cripps has the best bye round.

Westy

2405 this week. V happy with that.
Fogarty was the lowest scorer with 44.

BrownlowBoy

Suggestions for trades this week?

Sitting on 30 trades with 107k in the bank.

Laird, Hibberd, Sicily, Doedee, Murray, Finlayson, Naughton, Murphy
Dangerfield, Mitchell, Kelly, Oliver, Fyfe, Brayshaw, Kelly, Holman, Banfield, Barry, Garlett
Gawn, Nank, Olango
Heeney, Billings, Walters, Smith, Taberner, Fritisch, Langdon, Ryan

THE SALTSHAKER

looks like a good side bud, Sicily will hurt, that fwd line is strong if Taberner kicks a few like this week.

Will

What do we do with Hibberd????

KSinny

I'm really tempted to trade but I know the sensible thing to do is hold.

Alferton

I’m holding, just.

Finnius

2 70s isn't the end of the world – give him another week or two.

Corey

I think I’ll hold too, Hibberd can’t go lower than this I believe

Post_MaSloane

He could, against Geelong he had 30 points at 3qt

Tristan

Sideways to simpson for me.

Wally Brando

Anyone know Menegola’s TOG today? Didn’t watch the game but heard he spent long stretches on the pine. Is he carrying a niggle?

Alferton

According to fanfooty he spent 66% of the time on the ground.

Steve

Have both m crouch and beams, do I trade both?

Leeds17

If you get yourself a uber premium (Dusty or Danger basically) & a must have rookie i'd be okay with it, but I'd be pretty tempted to back Beams to come good

Jim_bob321

What to do with naughton?

Corey

If you have enough money could go to Bonner

Daniel

If he's on your bench, just hold tight as he'll rise as long as he scores in the 50-60 range. He'll just be a slow burner and someone you can trade closer to the bye rounds.

EAGLE POWER

Hibberd to Simpson
Naughton to Bonner
Or just hold hmmmmm Hibberd worries me.

Tristan

Solid

John

Def:laird, hibberd, bonner, doedee, murray, Finlayson (naughton, mihocek)
Mid: dangerfeild, martin, mitchell, j.kelly, fyfe, cripps, armitage, t.kelly(brayshaw,barry,holman)
Ruc:kreuzer, gawn (cameron)
Fwd:smith,petracca,sicily,rayner, d.fogarty, fritsch (garlett, rayn
Scored 2129 29 trades left $122.8 in the bank
What could i do?

David C

I think Rayner needs to go. Armo is not doing much, maybe downgrade to a rook like Banfield and use the cash to upgrade Rayner to Taranto?

Yap

Any suggested trades? Considering moving on naughton, but not sure where to look.

Def: Laird, Hibberd, Savage, Doedee, Finlayson, Murphy
Naughton, Murray

Mid: Danger, Titch, Oliver, Zerrett, Fyfe, Brayshaw, T Kelly, Holman,
Banfield, Barry, Garlett

Ruck: Gawn, Nank, Olango

Fwd: Heeney, Billings, Walters, Tracca, Ryan, Fritsch
Waterman, Giles Langdon

265k in the piggy.

Russty_

Don't think you need to anything really Yap..pretty good side.

fcabel

holding a great option. Team is strong. If wanting to push you could go Naughton to Bonner. Could also swing Finlayson into brayshore and bring in Shaw.

Shane

Option 2 that brings in shaw 👏

BVB21

Very good team.

Naughton to o Connor and brayshaw to coniglio is an option but I wouldn’t waste two trades on that unless u think cogs is a keeper

Tristan

Trade hibberd melboure arnt playing a very half back friendly game and arnt chipping the ball around back. He also isnt taking the kick ins which is worrying.

Wadey

McCartin ——> Todd Marshall
Callum Mills — —> Heath Shaw
Or do I hold?

Richo

i would hold mills; he should play well enough to be your D6 but you should definitely look at downgrading mccartin to one of ryan, fritsch or giles-langdon or even garlett if he isn't dropped, if you don't have any of them. as a young kpf can't really see marshall scoring consistently week in week out and he's bound to have some sub 40s scores, and at 194k he won't make as much cash as those other rooks.

Phil

I have traded Mills to Shaw. I just dont see him getting midfield minutes and tends to go missing or on tagging duties> Heater also has the runs on the board. GWS flying so I like his possible output.

Wadey

Hi I’m just wondering with what to do with McCartin at 234k with 15.2k in the bank before he burns me further… who are some good options around a similar price?

Booma

Trade to a rookie, pocket some $$$ and then make some more with their price rise.

Harley

Christensen

Derek

Rookie. Whoever you don’t have.

Carl

Getting rid of Redden in the midfield. Got $588,400 in the Kitty. Should I save a bit and grab someone who's looked good so far like boak or should I go out in an inform premium like Selwood?

Russty_

Can you post your midfield Carl so we can see who you already have?..including Rookies.

Corey

Go to Selwood, he plays full time midfield and looks strong so far

Carl

martin, mitchell, kelly, fyfe, coniglio, redden, kelly, holman, brayshaw, banfield and barry

Russty_

Ok, I was thinking Cripps, Whitfield or Parker as Nick said, or Selwood as Corey said..hope that helps, now slap yourself for picking Redden lol

Daniel

Take a look at your bye structure and then pick one of the above-mentioned as there isn't a lot to separate them.

nickgonzalez771

Personally I would bring in Parker with the mids you've got. Slightly underpriced with his current output and looking the goods for this season. 546K.

Mike

GOOD OR BAD . Just traded merrit to oliver and hibbered to simpson

Booma

Wouldn’t trade Merritt, his 17 from a concussion last week we will role out of his scores in a week. Hibberd is s tricky one, at the moment I would say trade cos it smells like heater from 2017. Maybe look at L.Ryan and pocket yourself $150k.

Maverick_

bad! you have just sideways traded two premiums out to chase points.
merrett & hibberd will both top 8-10 for there positions i think neither are injured or have obvious role changes.
I believe you have to hold but thats just my opinion mike.

neil demons delight

WOULD hit the reverse button Both will come good even though oliver will be top 6 no doubt

theoriginalforce

merritt was tagged for 95 points.

BVB21

Reverse those changes I think.

Sideways points chasing I think

KSinny

Wouldn't do either.. HOLD!

Harley

Get rid of Ellis or hold???

fcabel

I’d move him on

neil demons delight

yes trades him for a rookie Plenty to choose from pocket 100k

Maverick_

brandon or cam? move them both on either way harley.
brandon > ryan
Cam>rookie

skate or die

community, would you do a corrective trade on Pettraca or hold? could down grade him to a cash cow rookie and upgrade a rookie to either Simpson or coniglio.. Plus, i'm seriously considering Zac Fisher second year and looking like good season frd coverage. Players transition to the big stuff from the WAFL much easier than other minor leagues by the looks of it.

Maverick_

corrective trade…. haha his averaging 90 what more do you expect from him?? you surely selected him as a keeper and his averaging what everyone expected noone expects him to go 95+… don't go burning trades for no reason, hold him. he isn't stinking it up

Skateordie

Oops.. for somehow I read his average being lower.. yeah 90 is what I was expecting. Cheers

Derek

if your biggest problem is Petracca, you are doing ok.

neil demons delight

wow you're kidding I was thinking the opposite

MeJ

With out his 4 frees against it would have been a good week for him.

Daniel

Yeah, that's silly. 90 average from a guy that cost $433k is just fine.

Finnius

Hunter Clarke is actually projected to LOSE money this week. I am going to go him to a 102k rookie to give me a loophole, which is also the perfect amount of cash to go Naughton to Bonner. I said that I would give myself two trades before rd 3 and that is what I am using. If Sicily gets rubbed for a week may need to re-evaluate though, especially if Kreuz/Toby Green don't get up either.

I got 2334 this week, which could have been 2450 if Kreuzer and Green played instead of English and Langdon. If all my premos can stay on the park then I am pretty happy with my side 🙂

Harley

Jarryd Lyons has impressed and with not much else in that Gold Coast midfield, is he worth it?

fcabel

Looks great. Tag might be a problem

Jim

Naughton to bonner?

Lazza

Consider Naughton to Lachlan Murphy if you don’t have him. Will deliver immediate $115k for one trade. $64k in the bank and Murphy’s price will go up $50k this week. ROI for Murphy is higher as well.
Normally I’d stick to $150k per trade, but that will definitely come with Murphy many weeks before Naughton if you hold.
On the positive side Naughton first week score disappears next week and he should jump up from his measly $6k increase this week.
Bonners ROI will be far less than Murphy.. his score this week should be a warning .. fools gold..

Locked and Loaded

Bonner played against Sydney at the SCG and was awarded a measley 8 points for his crucial goal in the 4th… bonner is a good choice for naughton, naughton ability to generate points does not look good and even if his low score leaves his rolling BE from here on then it’ll be back after this week. Cannot score! Go to bonner

The underdogs

Do i trade rayner to a lower priced rookie or hold him on the bench and sub ryan onto the field

musicissport

Hey guys thinking of the following corrective trades, right move or not?

OUT Hibberd IN Laird (yes I went without him to start and regretting it)
OUT Dahl IN Ryan

Gives me $500K in the kitty and the following team:

DEF: Hurley, Laird, Sicily, Bonner, Doedee, Murray (Coffield, Murphy)
MID: Danger, Titch, Neale, JPK, Cripps, Finlayson, Kelly, Holman (LDU, Garlett, Barry)
RUC: Gawn, Goldy (Cameron)
FWD: Heeney, Greene, Curnow, Stephenson, Fogarty, Ryan (Ballenden, Fritsch)

David C

I'd normally advise on holding Hibberd (as I am doing) but if you have to have one defender this year then it's Laird. Those trades really set up your bank balance nicely to get someone like Martin further down the track.

Jon

Do it. I'm assuming Luke Ryan (Freo) via DPP? I've had him from the start, thinking a great POD.

Maverick_

I'm no supercoach expert but I do know after 2 rounds you dont go chasing points sideways trading your premiums off 1 or 2 bad games.
I am seeing alot of this already and it makes me nervous for the coaches doing so. We have to keep our composure, me included! we only have 30 trades for the season.

Leeds17

In theory I agree BUT if there is any time to make rash/ambitious trades it's after R2.

THE SALTSHAKER

Should always allow for 2 correctionals, rookie you missed, someone that isnt working.

Dont know why folks started with Hibberd, always a chance to be under $500k at some stage. The def line has the most fluctuations in and out of its top 6 than any other line each season. If you look back over the years you will see this tends to be true most seasons. One year they will be in top def/mid like Adams cos they played mid a lot and following year SC gives them a pos change to just mid. There was some statistics behind it but they said those $400 to $500k players are generally the movers into the top 6 def line.

THE SALTSHAKER

*before rnd 3 / the bubble

Daniel

Which two trades are the most important to do this week?

Naughton to Bonner
Merrett to Dusty or Danger
Brayshaw (198k rookie) to Christensen
Hibberd to Simpson

WinnerRGrinners

Go Dusty and Bonner

Daniel

None of those look crucial but would depend a bit on your side.

David C

I wouldn't do any of them.

Paul

Weitering and Tom Bell were my 2 risky calls and they've both been epic fails. Going to trade them both out for Finlayson and Robbie Gray

David C

Get Gray after his bye if you really want him.

Paul

I reckon people make too much of the bye time. Not many forwards are likely to average 100. He's one of them

Raver_dave

Just traded Crouch to Cripps and pocketed some cash. Didn't want to but with his hammy injury felt like I had to. Will wait and see after his had scans to see how long he will be out for. Can always reverse trade if need be.
If its only a couple weeks should I pull the trigger on the trade or just throw Brayshaw on the field and cop a couple of 60's?

fcabel

I think trade

Julz

Decent fwd or def rookie other than the usuals? (have finlayson, doedee, murphy, murray, fritsch, stephenson, ryan, garlett). Need to give naughton and rayner the arse $55k in bank

Ben

Maybe Waterman in fwd

Ben

Thinking about a couple corrective trades, or could just hold off. Very tempted to bring Coniglio in before he goes up in price.
1. JOM to Coniglio, Hibberd to L Ryan
2. JOM to Coniglio, Kreuzer to Nic Nait or Nank
3. Brayshaw to Coniglio, Hibberd to Bonner

Shane

Option 2 for me

WinnerRGrinners

Right every one, The ZORKO has to go,
ok So I made a mistake
Who should I get???

OLIVER
SELWOOD
MACREA

or do you have any other idea??

Any Thought??

nickgonzalez771

Oliver. Lock it in, don't look back.

Sam

Oliver has a relatively low ownage percentage so would be a very solid POD, Selwood always a good choice but even after today have to wonder if there will always be enough of the leather to go around between the three of them. Cognilio would be a great option if you’re looking to save some cash, and is probably priced indeed for his potential.

Shane

Keep him ! Will come good ! Def still try to get Oliver in asap tho

redherringfc

Before the 1st round I had my top 8 midfielders picked for the year and Zorko just made it there. I picked 5 to start and I’m not bringing any other premiums into my midfield besides Dusty, Oliver and Mitchell.

Messing about with sideways trades and guys who just aren’t good enough (although Oliver is good enough and the other 2 may make it) is how you burn trades and ultimately lose finals.

I’d suggest holding him. He should be at the pointy end comes years end.

Sam

Thinking of downgrading Sicily to Geary after to make enough cash to turn Naughton into Bonner, thoughts?

Russty_

Have a look at his averages from the last 2 years first.

fcabel

Hold

Ricardo

Don't do it. Geary isn't SC relevant

Lazza

Naughton to Bonner … no way … Bonner is not a keeper … waste of a trade ..

Bottom

Is it worth trying to get coniglio in this week?

Derek

do you have any room

Derek

I would love him, but not at M7

BVB21

I have same dilemma. Already have Cripps and Parker. Can’t have em all.

fcabel

Bring him in. May be able to keep him.

redherringfc

Is he going to be top 8 mid come years end?

If you think so then definitely worth trying.

If he’s not quite there, then it’s 2 wasted trades or a team that just doesn’t cut it come finals.

Warblegarble

29 trades, $381,900 in the bank. Feeling pretty good about my side currently, the only question I've got is do I trade Naughton or be patient and just leave him on the bench?

DEF – Laird, Hibberd, Sicily, Doedee, Murray, Finlayson (Naughton, Murphy)
MID – Dangerfield, Martin, Fyfe, Macrae, Cripps, Brayshaw, Dow, Kelly (Banfield, Barry, Holman)
RUC – Gawn, Naitanui (Olango)
FWD – Heeney, Billings, McLean, Petracca, Giles-Langdon, Fritsch (Keeffe, Garlett)

Derek

Hold Naughton. He is improving

fcabel

Use cash to upgrade to the Primo you like to watch the most

Jon

Doesn't Giles-Langdon have a fractured hand? Maybe cover there, as Keefe / Garlett aren't great on field options?

Fisherdan

Should I corrective trade Venables to L Ryan for greater cash generation or is this just burning a trade?
I have all other top performing rookies.

Derek

hold

HarryH

That's a burn. A player like Ryan is always going to be up and down. He might score 40 this week

CalebCripps922

My Current Side: Scored 2339 This week Ranked 25k, 29 Trades left.
DEF:Laird, Hibberd, Savage, Doedee, Murray, Finlayson- Naugton, Murphy
MID: Danger, Titch, Kelly, Fyfe, Cripps, Brayshaw, LDU, Kelly-Banfeild, Barry, Holman
RUC: Martin, Gawn- Olango
FWD: Heeney, Billings, McLean, Smith, Christensen, Fritsch- Ryan, Garlett

Was thinking LDU down to L.Fogarty and Naughton up to Bonner not really sure Bonner is worth 2 trades to get in though. Any help appreciated community!

NoLanguage

I would be holding LDU mate. Only going to get better and his JS is concrete, save your trades.

David C

Nah, save your trades. Your side is pretty solid, just sit back for awhile and only trade injuries.

BockChoy

Did anyone see the Swans game – curious as to what is going on with Mills? He's currently my D4 and thought him solid enough to be D5 or D6 as the season progressed… was this 40 an aberration?

Ghost

Played bad, fumbled the ball whenever he was near it, even hand balled straight to opponents at times.

TRIGGA_HAPPY

Lloyd and rampe took points off him
Didnt play 1 second in the midfield
Made a couple of uncharacteristic erorrs
Was ok but did mnske a few blues but pure defender who will share duties with the other swannies.
My take.

Derek

round 1 he did ok because he was the loose man in defence, that role seemed to be Rampe and McVeigh.

He won’t be playing any midfield.

I love the guy, and at $400k he won’t loose much value, but he isn’t a keeper, I hoped he might be. I’ll be moving him out this week.

Neverweaken

Had him all holiday till a few minutes before round one and dumped him.
If I had him I would still dump him. Cheap but not cheap enough to make good money. And not going to be top 6 def

TRIGGA_HAPPY

Did anyone watch the GWS game? 
Seriously considering Tarranto this week. 
Scored well first 2 weeks 
Has he taken it up a notch or two? 
With scully to miss weeks thinking may provide more mid time? 
Kid can play. 
Oh and whitfield has moved out of the midfield giving a spot to timmy. 
Feedback on his game?

Ja191

Yeah looked to get a lot of mid time and used it very well. Mistaked him for kelly half the time with his bright red boots. Also looking at bringing him in

David C

I was worried about Scully and Hopper coming back in but now Scully is out I've traded Taranto in this week.

JamiesNinjas13

An old solid rule of supercoach: Back your premiums! Once you have started/traded in a premium, their value becomes irrelevant and you should look to back them in the whole year. Obviously if they have a long term injury or an obvious change in form (based on a good evidence of 6+ games), then you may trade them out.

TheGreatBozza

Pretty happy sitting 5,000 after a slow start. I’m leaning to a hold this week but would love some trade idea nevertheless

Bank: 175k Trades: 29

DEF: Laird, Savage, Sicily, Doedee, Finlayson, Murray (Murphy, Naughton)
MID: Dusty, Titch, Fyfe, Pendles, Cripps, Coniglio, Kelly, Brayshaw (Banfield, Holman, Garlett)
R: Kreuzer, Gawn (Hayes)
F: Billings, Walters, McLean, Smith, Fritsch, Ryan (English, Langdon)

Going to be using English/Hayes as a FWD rookie loophole so I’m not too fussed with two on field FWD rookies. Missed on Bundy by bringing in Cox R1 and burning a trade down to English in R2 (stupid start by myself bringing in Cox instead of going English at R3, but I took a punt on the big American that backfired!)

Only trade I’m considering is Naughton to Bonner but I’m leaning towards holding Naughton

nickgonzalez771

Lambert – Dusty
Naughton – Murphy

Thoughts?

TheGreatBozza

Good trades. As much as I’d say hold Naughton as he should improve; the upside of Lambert to dusty is too good to miss

nickgonzalez771

That's my thoughts. The increases in price coming through the incoming trades at least are equal to what is outgoing. Murphy looks like he might be around enough to make some cash plus it frees up what I need to get Dusty in ASAP. No Danger in my MIDs yet, but glad to have Dusty, Titch, Parker and Zerrett. I think I've got all the higher-performing rookies now so hopefully the cashflow will be steady even with offloading Naughton, this season's mindset is to stick with what I've chosen but like you said in this particular case there's a lot of upside. Thanks for the feedback Bozza.

neil demons delight

agree Nick mainly cause I did the same no brainer really good luck

BVB21

Good trades

Lazza

Naughton to Murphy is a smart move

Gorgon

Brodie > T.Kelly
Crouch > Oliver

Thoughts?

fcabel

Great trad3s

KSinny

I have 30 Trades left and 32.7k in the Bank.. Should i do any trades this week?

DEF: Laird, Hibbo, Sicily, Finlayson, Doedee, Murphy (Naughton, Murray)

MID: Dusty, Titch, Kelly, Zerrett, Fyfe, Cripps, T.Kelly, Holeman (Brayshaw, Banfield, Garlett)

RUC: Gawn, Nank (Olango)

FWD: Heeney, Billings, Smith, Tracca, Langdon, Fritsch, (Keefe, Venables)

Would love some feedback and advice. Cheers community!

BVB21

Biggest problem you have is 2 playing rooks in forward line.

I would get Liam Ryan as well

Sc_Wow

That’s not too much of an issue atm. If he had 5 mids playing and 3 rookie mids he would be copping 60’s from Brayshaw. The forward rookies are giving us 60’s also and he now has a extra premo mid who would outscore anyone he brought in for the forward line

BVB21

Yeah true his midfield is solid.

Just saying that my priority would be to move on Naughton and brayshaw when they peak and upgrade a forward rookie

KSinny

Cheers man those were my thoughts also

Defying_Madness

Would love some trade suggestions or possibly none if I don't need to. I have $140k in the bank and 29 trades.

D:Laird, Ryan, Doedee, Murray, Finlayson, Murphy (Naughton, Keefe)

M:Martin, Mitchell, Kelly, Oliver, Zerret, Fyfe, Kelly, Holman (Brayshaw, Banfield, Barry)

R: Gawn, Nic Nat (Olango)

F: Heeney, Billings, Smith, Sicily, Lobb, Fritsch (Venables, Langdon)

Cheers Community

BVB21

Just need Liam Ryan I think.

Monitor Sicily and lobb for another week

NoLanguage

Would love to hear your thoughts on trades or no trades this week guys!

B – Laird, Hibberd, Savage, Doedee, Finlayson, Murray (Naughton, O'Connor)
M – Dusty, Mitchell, Fyfe, Parker, Cripps, Coniglio, Kelly, Holman (LDU, Banfield, Barry)
R – Martin, Gawn (Cameron)
F – Heeney, Walters, Smith, Sicily, Christensen, Fritsch (Venables, Langdon)

Scored 2359 – 30 trades with $20k in the bank. Questions I'm pondering are:

1) Naughton to Murphy and bank $60k?
2) Venables to Ryan?
3) Back in who I've got and save trades?

Any feedback or suggestions hugely appreciated.

fcabel

I’d hold

Jon

I'd leave, doesn't feel right no trades in R3, but your team looks good.

FranklinShow

Started with armitage and cyril (i know mid price madness) but took a punt. Both have failed. I dont have Liam Ryan or Bonner. So was thinking following:

Rioli to L Ryan.
Armo to Bonner via Finlayson.

Thoughts??

Danny

What is a more crucial trade – getting bonner in or trading hibberd?

BVB21

I wouldn’t do either trade.

Bonner not a keeper and has had one good game. Rest of the time he averages 75.

Hibberd is a keeper and will come good

BVB21

Over 1000 coaches have fallen for the trap that is Zac Fisher. Matera of 2018

fcabel

Another one here likely to run the fish. Like his game

BlueBaggerJosh

Difference is fisher didn't kick bags, he was playing mid

Vinnie

Dropping Menegola and Dahlhaus immediately,

BVB21

Agree with those trades. Surprised u picked Dahlhaus. Seems to be on the way down

Noah

Is Hibberd for Simpson a bad or good trade?

KSinny

I'd say hold Hibberd as he is a proven scorer and will be a top 5 defender by seasons end.

Ricardo

Hold on to Hibberd. Upgrade to Simpson later on

Mike

Hibberd to bonner
Z.langdon to T.mclean

KSinny

Hold Hibberd

Lazza

Bonner is not a keeper… wasted trade

wayno1313

What do we do with Brayshaw? Hold him or trade to Waterman or Fisher via DPP?

BVB21

hold him. Waterman will get dropped once JJK comes back and Fisher is a trap.

TRIGGA_HAPPY

Reckon im gonna trade him for tarranto to boost my fwd line.

fcabel

I’m thinking Fisher via dpp.

Stringer

Do I trade out Menegola now and who for?

F – menegola, heeney, smith, Petracca, Frisch, Ryan (g-Langdon, Garlett)

7k in bank

Stirlsy

Yes id do that, to Greene or Buddy as they will or should finish top 6 to 8 fwds, Buddy will be a rollercoaster ride as his up and down but its the end avg yr after when taking a keeper, and with Green you get the chance he will miss a week or 2 when he whacks someone for the fun of it.

BVB21

My suggestions are Maclean, Curnow, Greene, Franklin

If you have Sicily you can swing him and pick Simpson etc

Ando

Naughton to Bonner & Fogarty to Ryan? Or just do the latter?

Tyruddanaut

I have a few options this week for trades.

The first trade I am going to do is a direct trade from Naughton to Bonner. Naughton has his BE above his average already and Bonner averages 97. No brainer!

The second ‘trade’ I can’t decide on but these are my options
1. Zorko to Dusty. Zorko still isn’t scoring enough and it doesn’t help that he plays for Brisbane. We could see that worse teams get less supercoach points through Gold Coast last year. $23,700 spare
2. Hibberd to Hurn. 3 new members of the defense; Vince, Lewis and Lever. Complete role change. $128,800 spare
3. Olango to English. Backup for Nic Nat or the alternative is Nic Nat to English but I don’t like that that much. $38,500 spare
4. Brayshaw to Fisher. Brayshaw just isn’t scoring enough. I got him in my team to score 70s or 80s and he’s barely got 60. $5,500 spare
5. No trade. Leave it and hope and pray

neil demons delight

Getting Dusty should be a priority but not at the expense of a premium I traded Lambert and cory ellis for dusty— the better method two midpricers underperforming for the 3rd best player before you guys ask DANGER OLIVER and DUSTY then maybe gawns there and Petracca and Hogan and

Tyruddanaut

My worst midpricers are Lobb (97 in R1) and Savage (94 avg) so I guess no Dusty

Andrew

Thinking about going beams to ryan via dpp. It would leave me with 3 on field rooks in the middle Kelly/Brayshaw/Holman but with 600k in the bank and the ability to turn brayshaw into anyone.

Should I make the trade instantly? Am i crazy to leave 600k in the bank while I wait for a price rise or 2 from my cows and some premos to fall???

Any help/ideas would be much appreciated!!

Roy

Depends on how long you are willing to wait for Beams to get up to speed. He basically had no preseason as he looked after his father. His price is going to fall and he may be a good pick up later.
Money in the bank isn't earning points onfield. Surely you could do a straight swap with another premo!

Neverweaken

I always leave some money in the bank. 540k at the moment. Gives me the flexibility to trade in round 3 and 4 for price rises missed players etc. Do you have Finlayson?
Either trade to a cash cow or swap to a premo who isnt dropping in price.

Stirlsy

I'v got JOM sitting at M6 didn't have the coin to get Cogs, so went with JOM but although he has started games ok he seems to go missing or just floats around the place without getting involved.
Thinking of downgrading to Banfield a 123k rookie who will make more cash and looks like ill only lose 20 odd pts a game by doing it, Banfield has a tagging role but is picking up his 60 while doing the job, and banking the 200 odd k for first major upgrade in a few weeks.
Thoughts…..

BadgerHoney7

Hold Jaeger?

TIGESB2B

I'm holding. Is still only a few real matches back from injury. Has had best preseason for awhile (I read somewhere) so should get going soon
.

BadgerHoney7

Agreed, he shows glimpses as well of how could he can be and I think supercoach scores don't really show how well he plays.

Stirlsy

Clangers are killing his score 8 against pies and 5 against cats

Stirlsy

I'm leaning towards flicking him now, started well against pies then drifted along and never really got into it yesterday.
I took him as a stepping stone thinking he would get 85s to 95s with maybe a bigger score somewhere along the line, but his disposal isn't quite there and he might turn it around quick but I dont see him getting to the 450k mark before a rookie can get to 300k so its about the money, and im trading him for a rookie.

Real talk

How’s that Sicily lock for top 6 defender looking?

Doc_1

Lads,
Thinking of pulling 2 trades (losing my nerve/pre season commitment to holding trades!)

Option 1: Hibberd -> Simpson D3
O’Meara -> Taranto F5 (via DPP)

Option 2: Hibberd -> L.Murphy (leaves D3-8: Doedee, Murray, Finlayson, L.Murphy, Naughton, O’Connor).
O’Meara -> Taranto F5

Option 3: Hibberd -> L.Murphy as above
O’Meara -> Coniglio (431K left). Or Dusty (227K left)

Or just sit tight?

Doc_1

Option 3 Coniglio would be M6

ThatsGoldJerry

I have 77k in the bank. M.Crouch to Oliver and Lambert to Heeney or Crouch to Dusty and Lambert to Taranto ? Which option guys….thanks in advance 🙂

neil demons delight

dusty and Taranto just

James

Like the look of Taranto
My fwd line is under done
Heeney, Smith, Tracca, Stephenson, Fritsch, Ryan (Langdon, Garlett)
Is it worth going Stephenson to Taranto?

TIGESB2B

Burton out, Finlayson in; Dow out, Holman in. $$$!!!

BadgerHoney7

Whats everyone planning to do with Sicily (if Hawks don't challenge)?

Finnius

Is he a confirmed out? How many weeks?

BadgerHoney7

1 week

Paul

I think if you got him then you expect him to be a top 10 forward or defender. You don't trade them out for a one week spell. Use bench cover

BadgerHoney7

was never going to trade but have murphy and naughton on bench and not confident on either of them going big, not sure i should go for bonner either.

Real talk

Hahahahahahaha here it is!!! Top 6 defender one week guaranteed. Look at us now hahahahahahahahaha

BadgerHoney7

lol, still think he'll be top 6, just wondering what everyone is doing with bench etc.

Ricardo

You have to back your pre-season judgement to start with him. Besides, being a DPP he's handy to have (obviously assuming you have another DPP).

Stirlsy

To da Bench for him.

Matt

I have 30 trades and 22.4k in the bank, is there any trades I should make? I’m thinking getting rid of Menegola and Rayner.
Laird, Hibberd, Savage, finlayson, Doedee, Murray,(Naughton, Murphy)

Dangerfield, Martin, Mitchell, Fyfe, Parker, Coniglio, Brayshaw, Kelly (Dow, Holman, Banfield)

Gawn, Naitanui ( Cameron)

Menegola, Heeney, Devon Smith, Rayner, Stephenson, Fogarty (Garlett, Fritsch)

Help would be greatly appreciated!

BlueBaggerJosh

I'd free up some cash, Menegola down to someone and Rayner up to Taranto.

Hayden

Thinking about trading about Lambert and J Kelly to Greene and Coniglio.

Lambert has been terrible and I don't want to waste a trade going sideways, would rather upgrade to Greene.
J Kelly to Coniglio to facilitate money to ditch Lambert and also Coniglio will make money from $450k.

Thoughts?

David C

You say you don't want to sideways trade Lambert, then you propose to sideways trade Kelly???

pasta stRayner

Lambert has to go but Kelly is averaging 108? Find cash generation elsewhere.

Blueth

Can a dees fan give me some solid intel on what's going on with Hibbo please?
Has he had a change of role because of Lever?
Is he ever going to be the stat pig +1 we've all learned to love?
Help.

David C

I think Jordan Lewis's move into the back line has taken some of his role. A few Dees fans were calling on Lewis to be dropped which would be good for Hibberd owners.

Blueth

interesting David.
This isn't doing anything for my intense dislike of Jordan Lewis

Kyle

To all the people rushing to bring in danger or dusty at the expense of a premo who will have to be brought back in later anyway (excluding crouch whos missing a month of footy). Why? Surely when you made the choice to not start them you realised you would need to wait a few rounds till rookies plumped up and maybe an armitage had boosted a bit in price or started with money in the bank to make the danger trade.

Iv seen people saying zerrett is gonna lose cash or zorko is gonna lose 50k this week…a premos price is irrelevant once they are in your team. They will be top 10 mids and shouldnt be traded so a price drop is totally irrelevant in their case.

Wait for rookies to cash in – looks like it could be fast with so many dropping tons on us anyway. People fprget the value of trades comes finals…

Blueth

especially true this year considering so much money is going to be made on rookies.
Hold on Hibberd

pasta stRayner

THANK YOU! Great post. Dusty and Danger can wait til they're around the $580k-$600k mark for me!

Jack

With Giles-Langdon out, should I go:
Giles-langdon -> Waterman, Garlett or English

and i own Naughton, should i consider downgrading to Murphy

Jack

I didn't watch the game but why did English score so well week 1 and then so poorly week 2, was this a role change and will it be a regular occurrence?

David C

Not sure he holds his spot. Lycett towelled him up in the first half. Improved in the second half. I can see him only lasting a couple more games if he does stay in.

inNout

Zac langdon cracked his hand. Does anyone know how long he will be out for and his chances of getting straight back in if he is fit ? Hold or trade to L. Ryan ?

JugHead

Giants website is saying 4 weeks.

THE SALTSHAKER

DEF: Laird, Lloyd, Savage, Bonner, Finlayson, Doodee (Murray, Naughton)

MID: Dusty, Titch, GAJ, Fyfe, Coniglio, Jom, Armo, Holman (Brayshaw, Banfield, Barry)

RUCK: Gawn, Nank (Olango)

FWD: Billings, Walters, Smith, Petracca, Ryan, Fritsch (Garlett, Giles-Langdon)

$110k

Thoughts folks, i need to get Tim Kelly but for who? Jom or Armo? Jom seems a bit too floaty for me but Saints have a harder run.

Either will give me $200k and can play Kelly + Holman in m7 m8 scoring spots.

Now….my question is this. $300k warchest, do i Armo to Cripps or Oliver? or do i keep Armo + 20k, had 51d in 2 games and use it towards getting Danger as soon as possible? Cripps has good run coming up over next mth and Kreuz back should help.

But then i dont know when ill be in Dangertown anytime thereafter …FEEDBACK WELCOME

David C

Grab Kelly and then hold. Trades are gold early in the season.