G’day Community,
Only two days in and I already feel like I need a stiff drink.
Had Kreuzer and Lambert…Kreuz concerns me, Lambert not so much. He was a spud for a half but still got over 70, his points will come.
The big one is Zerrett, what a nightmare that is for coaches. Any doctors out there? Medical or psychological? Patch needs some help.
Alright, here’s what I want to talk about
- Injuries, what’s your backup plan?
- Last minute changes, you making any?
- VC/C if you didn’t go Dusty or Cripps, who you got? (I’m going Fyfe into a Geelong/Melbourne player I reckon)
- Anyone going to any games this weekend, let’s fill a bay and yell Tony Olango’s name on repeat
Lot’s of love, Lekdog
I have Zerrett and Danger. Do I bring someone in for Danger and then burn a trade by trading Zerrett to Danger next week? All of a sudden my pod Zerrett seems Ike a bad idea.
Is Zerrett going to be out next week? I don’t like the idea of burning a trade this early on, unless Zerrett is going to miss 2+ weeks
was thinking he's had multiple concussions already, might be the start of a worrying trend
Word from the club is he is very unlikely to be risked in Perth next week. Wait till Thursday.
Where'd you hear that from?
Not a great POD. More than 10% ownership in the first place
i think patch should make a new team before 3rd game starts… no cripps, martin has kreuzer. rip
Thoughts on downgrading Danger to Armitage then when Zerrett drops go from Armo to Zerrett? (plan to bring back danger asap)
VC on T.Mitchell, C on either Bont or Kelly
I tried something similar a couple of years ago. Found myself short of trades And missing points. Don’t do it.
A truly horrible idea. DO NOT DO IT!
Don’t like Danger to Armo. Too big a drop off. I like the logic of using a mid pricer to get a cheap Zerret, but is there another way you can do it?
How cheap will Zerret get? lets say he comes out and averages 110 for the next 4 weeks..
Not 100% on the maths and breakevens; but I’d assume he could go down past 500k
Shouldn't go down too much if his next two scores are big, the 19 will only be in his price calculations for 1 week as it's a 3 round rolling average .
That's not even close – because it was in round 1, like Anon says, it only counts in his rolling average for one price change.
For him to get under 500k, he'd have to put out three consecutive 70s to dip under 500k. Most likely, he returns and puts up two 100s, and he would then be around 545k.
and I doubt anyone would be able to afford him at round 3 so he likely goes back up in price.
I’m not good at quick mafs
Round 1 score is only in 1 price movement. It's not going to make him crash in price at all. Second score of the season is far more important
Armo is starting to prove me wrong
Need some help!
Pick 2 of these guys
Fritsch
Ryan
Stephenson
Venables
Cheers
Fritisch Ryan
Fritsch and Ryan for me. Going by JLT form Fritsch well do ok and will be a big cash cow at low price. Ryan was ok at JLT showed a promising sign, good for bench cover.
Can someone call me crazy for considering Mason Cox as a Krooz cover? My options are:
1. Olango to English; losing loophole option. Keep Bundy and Greene up forward
2. Olango to Hayes (DPP and loop option). Then go Bundy to Cox, Greene down to Billings (need to do it to free up cap space)
Thoughts? Krooz has me in a pickle already
I’d go English before Cox, $300k is expensive bench cover.
Cox would be F5 over Christensen, and cover Krooz for a week or 2
If you've got 50k in your bank I'd consider Olango & Bundy out for English & Cox. Plenty of DPP flexibility & both might keep playing. Having said that I can't see either English or Cox being good scorers. The top 13 rucks last year Av 18 games each. So the cover could be useful down the track as well
I’d have to drop a Mitchell to kelly or Pendles to Parker to fit Cox and English. I like my mid structure though. Tough calls to be made
I also think cox has much better scoring potential than english
Initially had Barlow ,but not sure who to pick now between Menegola,McLean, Billings or Mundy as a POD, already have Knob Head,Smith and Tracca
& Heeney .rest are rooks
For me the best option there is Billings, jumped from an avg of 74.9 in 2016 to an avg of 92.7 in 2017. Looks to be on an upward trend and should get a decent amount of midfield minutes.
I always start Zerritt but this year went Oliver instead. Happy with that choice at the moment. Also have Kreuz and Danger. Both have surprising low ownership so I don’t want to give up potential no 1s who are pods too soon. Will give Danger 3 weeks. Anyone heard how bad Kreuz is?
Are Walters and Sicily the real deal? Feel like traps
Could both be but you never know with speculative picks, Walters can go big and will be more in the midfield, Sicily finished strong last year but can be over-emotional and a bit floggy.
Sicily scored well last night. I picked Roughy instead. 🙁
Sicily had 5 clangers and still scored 125 thanks to his 84 DE%. If you don't have him now you got to get him in before his price rise. Looks like a top 6 defender to me.
They will both be inconsistent.
giles langdon or keep keeffe and wait till he plays?
Keep Keeffe in your Back if you have Sicili in your FWD. Will be handy once you start upgrading/downgrading rookies to premos.
Unused rookies or low cost players are wasted right now need to be making cash in as many areas as possible
Good advice nba
Don't have sicily, and keeffe is my fwd bench, should i go giles jangdon or keeffe at F7
Yeah do it mate, no point having Keefe if you don't have Siciflog.
You can always use Keeffe as a downgrade target when he finally gets selected. No need to start him if he's not playing.
As a rule never select a rookie who isnt named round 1, no matter who it is.
Final adjustments guys
Dom Barry
LDU
Hunter Clark
Just need one????
Barry. Pocket the cash
What I was leaning towards cheers mate
Gray comes back in next week. Good chance Barry will be dropped.
Different role
Reckon Motlop might take his role. Gray forward more.
Barry
L.Ryan or B Fritsch on field?
Fritsch
Fritsch
Having trouble working out one more rookie Forward position to play on field.
Have Fritsch, Giles-Langdon and Ryan, but now need to pick one of Stephenson, Bell, Rayner, am I missing anyone else? Thoughts guys?
Cheers
The rest of the team looks like this too for this Round (if there are any other suggestions):
Def: Laird, Hibberd, Lloyd, Bonner, Doedee, Murray (Naughton, Finlayson)
Mid: Dusty, Kelly, Fyfe, TMitchell, Coniglio, Kelly, Brayshaw, Holman (Banfield, Barry, Garlett)
Ruck: Martin, Gawn (King)
Fwd: Heeney, Billings, McLean, Smith, Bell*, Fritsch (Ryan, Langdon)
i would go bell the others are a bit shaky
Venables
Think he could score ok on-field most weeks?
Should I get rid of either Hunter Clark or Barry for O'connor? Thinking of a potential mid/def swing with finlayson
I would keep Barry and bring in O'Connor for the swing. Hunter is an expensive rookie and I haven't seen enough to suggest he's worth the risk.
Gawn to captain take the risk. Had dusty as vice and all my rookies playing. Not trading one out to double 139. 150+ yeah maybe. Gawn's your man get on him.
Crazy not to take a garunteed 130 everytime
he cant
Get in someone like Ahern who should get games at NM.
you have a lotta balls not taking dusty’s points good luck
He cant He doesn't have a non playing rookie
Just bring in Mitchell King @r3
Take Dustys score
Hi community,
I have 1 forward spot to fill. Have Heaney and Billings.
Can't decided between Buddy, Greene or a midpricer.
Thanks in advance for any advice
Buddy in a good side mate. Greenes good but the grass is greener and not as likely to be removed by the umpires during the year.
Greene is a star and a flog, just got to hope the flog in him is gone.
Greene had no preseasons
Scored 56 from 48% TOG in JLT2.
if you don’t have him already, i would go petracca he’s gonna be a gun this year
1. I have 3 mid rookies on field. Bradshaw, Banfield, Clarke (Barry, Holman, Kelly)
Not sure about Clarke or LDU or O,Connor. Thoughts for that m8?
2. I have Olango and Dusty VC. Is it worth Getting English as he's playing? Trying to get Cash is better or doesn't matter.
Dangerfield down to 22% teams. It's going to be an interesting season.
19.5% now … dropping fast.
Parker and Mclean (20k left) or Heeney and Libba (65k left)?
Parker, McLean
Keeffe or O Connor?
Keefe not playing
Yeah I know, just as a D8
Are there any cats fans out there that may have any insight as to O'Connor's job security?
I'm so tempted by Fogarty's scoring potential with his tackling pressure but JS is a problem
He's a last minute upgrade from the rookie list so the signs are there. He's 191cm and 87kg and at 21 yrs old seems like a very good inclusion. His tackling and accurate kicking will (hopefully) see him stay the distance. Last years 2 games weren't flash but it was his first season and coming from a different format of the game you'd expect him to take some time to adapt. "In early 2017, O’Connor was upgraded to Geelong’s senior list. Mark’s form in the VFL was highly promising as he displayed great improvement in his newly adopted game. His… Read more »
Did nothing last year. Scored 28 and 35 in his two games. Geelong have too much depth for him to be a regular. The likes of Danger, Henderson, Scooter Selwood, Murdoch, Cockatoo, McCarthy, Buzza, Crameri all gonna be rotating through the team at some point.
BB what rookie would you be taking in the midfield then?
I've already got Brayshaw, Banfield, Holman, Barry, Kelly and Finlayson down back
I had Garlett in there. Could always swing Finlayson into the mids and grab Naughton if you don't have him. Otherwise Clark/LDU is an option.
Yeah I think I may go Clark and then if Garlett seems worth a corrective trade pre-Round 3 than I'll trade Clark down.
Henderson the only defensive player out of those you mentioned. So much talent still to be included in the Cats lineup, looking good!
D.Barry or N.Holman with the E. Will loophole Danger if the E scores big. Will swap T.Kelly out for Danger
I like Holman
Agreed. His js is better imo
Holman big tackler. Playing in wet today.
Holman
I'm thinking Banfield plays first so i'm putting the E on him and Holman and Brayshaw on field. If Banfield scores well will leave Dangerfield on the field. If not, will put Kelly on field. In your case, Barry plays first so I would put the E on him.
Need to replace Keefe and Coffield in defence
Who do I pick?
I already have Doedee, Naughton and Murray
Finlayson definately. Hard to suggest anyone else as not sure on their js.
O'Connor – Def/Mid . Finlayson – Def/Mid – I have both if that helps
Thanks guys. I picked both those guys up
Just finny left. Could go to Bonner atv$260kish. Or could keep keefe as loopholes/swingset for sic if you have him
Team is
D Laird, Hibberd, Savage, Bonner, Naughton, Doedee – Finlayson, Murray
M Martin, Mitchell, Zorko, Fyfe, Cripps, Coniglio, A Brayshaw, T Kelly – Banfield, Barry, Holman
R Gawn, Nankervis, Olango
F Franklin, Roughead, D Smith, Deledio, Fogarty, L Ryan – Fritsch, Keeffe
Brought in Deledio and Bonner for Barlow and Coffield Perhaps it's a shark move – perhaps I'm just Deledusional.
Happy with all my team that have played so far. Unlike my AFL Fantasy team where I put the C on Zerrett!
i like bonner but bringing in deledio is nuts. but who knows it could work out
As I said, am I Deledusional?
Yeah, it wasn't funny the first time either.
Bahahahhahahahaha
Didn’t even enter the realm of Dad jokes.
Which option?
1. Naughton, Billings, Venebles & 108k in bank
or
2. Naughton, Petracca, Christensen & 40k in bank or
3. Billings, Christensen, Venables & 7k in bank
1. Fo sho
1. No brainer
Bonner, Billings, fwd rookie (or MacPherson)
i like number 2 i dunno about venebles
Which two rookies to field in the mid out of Brawshaw, Holeman, Kelly and Banfield
Brayshaw and Holman/Banfield, I'd keep Kelly benched
definitely brayshaw, the other one though just take a stab. im personally going banfield
Worth swapping Keeffe for O’Connor? Or keep him to keep that switch with Sicily
You need your rooks to be playing R1. Can probably get Keeffe as a downgrade target later.
Yeah, JS is everything
Fairo, just means I can’t loop Sam Murray using keeffe
Kelly, Bont, Zorko or Pendles? Have Kelly but named in forward line so concerned he might spend a bit of time there
I'd go Kelly or Zorko but less so with the other 2
I had Kelly all of 2017 and occasionally he was named on th3 bench. DON’T pay attention to paper position. He is their best mid fielder.
he might be named in the forward line but they need him through the guts. I reckon hes in for a big year i would be going there. But you couldn’t go wrong picking the zorks
Wasted my VC on Kreuzer l, who….. yeah
I’m going for a bit of a POD with Zorko captain this week, I mean what do I have to lose. Last year I was coming 50,000 at R2 and came back for a spot at 3,000 at R22 (I’m trying to block r23 out of my head)
Stef Martin always plays well against St Kilda, I'd back him in for a monster number or HOA's, which should benefit Zorko.
I really hope you didn't go through with this.
I did along with Merret and krezuer. Also started danger 🤦🏻♂️
3 options here guys for F5: 300k In kitty..
1.Upgrade Langdon/venables/fritsch to Sicily??
2. goldy to nicnat so I can afford tracca (viney out for 8wks)
3. Bank it for the rnd 3 bubble just Play two forward rookies fritsch & one of venables/ZGL
This is doing my head in 🙁
3. Bank it . Cash generate from rooks
go venebales to sicily i reckon
Am thinking of swapping Danger for coniglio, keeping the cash and hopefully bringing danger back by round 5-6. Should see a nice rise in price by cogs and let me assess how danger is tracking before spending 745k, allowing for a price drop or if he's killing it bring him straight back in. Would love some thoughts on this as I'm still unsure.
I’m considering doing the same Aaz, either that or down to Parker and hoping he averages 110 as a fallen premo
Love it man. Cogs will score well
Cheers lads, locked and loaded coniglio, hopefully he has a big one
Do I take
1. Parker as a premo
2. Coniglio (premo if does well, step up to danger if flops)
Parker. Proven and JLT was superb
Parker
I'm going with 2 Chewy for that same reason, win win situation really
Been a boring start for me so far. 2 games down and only had 2 players on field. Guess the positive is they are Cripps and Doedee who i was very impressed with in his first game. Looking forward to the rest of the round to see how my side shapes up.
Ablett came out and said he's going to play as a pure midfielder, rather than a mid-fwd. Little bit worried for my Duncan pod
For season or just round 1 Sloane?
The season. BHJ said it was the first conversation he had with Chris Scott. To paraphrase, 'I'll be playing midfield, the rumours of me being a mid forward are a bit wide of the mark. I know I'm 33, but I've still got a lot left in the legs. Get me in there.'
*not exact quote
Hmm this makes things interesting I have been tempted by him all pre season thinkin his a mid-fwd now even more so as a pure mid.. but I’d have to lose kelly or Mitchell in the guts. I can see Duncan Selwood n danger all helping with points not stealing them like ppl say. Thoughts?
They are all beasts, and will still all score well. Duncan didn't go below 90 after round 7, and 100 after round 15. We all know Danger and Ablett are the two best Supercoach scorers of the last decade. Duncan plays well off a wing, but where he is real damaging is as a run-with player getting clearances out of the square. Of course a run-with player is still handy on the wing, but with the decrease in midfield time we could see Duncans score drop by 5 points a game, taking him out of the top 10 mids. The… Read more »
He's not playing all season in the midfield. He's 33 & now as injury prone as they come. He's past being that player. When he plays forward he's a menacing headache for any team. He will split his time between the two. That is when he plays
My thoughts as well Itchy Nuts. Imagine how damaging their line up will be this year, when Selwood, Duncan and Guthrie are in the guts, Menegola on a flank, Gaz in the pocket and Hawkins and Dangerfield as side by side Full Forwards. My mouth is salivating
Selwood is well n truly priced at unders. Juicy prospect but so much value around that price already makes it tough
Of course he's got lots left in the tank, he stopped playing full-on at GC after his injury a couple years ago.
Who’s going Lobb over Sicily? I know I am
Has Lobb started his preseason yet?
lol I can't go near him.
I’m taking the risk
Siciliy or H Shaw/Savage for D3?
O'Connor, LDU or Clarke for last Mid Rookie spot?
i would go savage for d3
tossing up two options
1. sicily and heeney
2. savage and mclean
at the moment going with option one but could easily do a panic trade before kickoff
Is Oliver still a good pick or should we look to make hm an upgrade target due to the injury cloud?
another preseason increasing his tank & Gawn rapping down his throat this season. Cant go wrong. It was a slight knock its nothing
there are so many great premium mids, i would rather go one that isn’t under an injury cloud
Agree shem, injury concerns are like poison ivy, stay clear.
gun.
I'm a huge fan of Clarry,had him from the start last year,was my second picked player in the mids this year,but as soon as I heard about the Knee knock,I traded him out,same as Danger,they will both be upgrade targets for me.
I’m starting to move back to the idea of starting with Dangerfield this week. 5 mins before Thursday’s game I traded Danger to Dusty, with the idea of keeping $100k in bank to trade Dusty back to Danger in round 2 or 3. I had already decided I couldn’t have both Danger and Dusty because of my Round 14 bye problem. I have Fyfe, Parker, Heeney, Laird, Mills & Billings with R14 bye. It is obvious if this was later in year you wouldn’t waste 2 trades to trade him out and back for missing one week, but it is… Read more »
I think the main concern with Gray is that he'll need to be replaced by a bench rookie twice before the byes. I think it'd be okay if we had some decent forward rookies but there's every chance someone like a Ryan or Giles-Langdon could average 40.
I'd be leaning more towards Wingard or Dixon if you were to go a Port forward
Don’t like any other Port Forwards.
Gray wasn’t high on my list, I was just looking at upgrade possibilities
I did think about Billings to Hogan and Mills to Hibberd.
Derek, I actually like your strategy of switching Danger to Dusty (I think we need to start at least one of them). If you also have Mitchell you could try your luck without Dangerfield and re-assess in a few weeks (would help your bye situation). I didn't make the switch so feel I need to hold Danger as I don't want to be chasing both of them during the season.
All the elite players are going for rank so will trade Danger for another uber but leave cash available to trade him in as soon as he returns.
Not sure about that. A trade is worth more than 60 pts
Say you trade in TMitch or Ablett for Danger and you chuck the VC / C on him and he scores 150-160 which obviously doubles, then it becomes a good option.
If I was to go without Danger, TMitch would be my selection. That was original plan, and then to trade Dusty back to Danger.
I like it, I have a similar plan.
Team is
Laird, Shaw, Mills, Doedee, Murray, Finlayson, (O’Connor, Murphy)
Dangerfield, Dusty, Fyfe, Oliver, Kelly, Parker, Banfield, Holman (Garlett, Barry, Kelly)
Gawn, Lycett (Olango)
Heeney, Billing’s, Devon, Petracca, Lobb, Venables (Fritsch, Ryan)
$65k
(No Cyril)
I would have thought that by R14 our teams would be set to cover the bye
I would hope to still have my starting keepers, although last year it didn’t go to plan.
8 round 14 players to start seems too many.
I would have had Crouch as well.
Maybe I’m worry about bye too much. Having both Danger and Dusty should be fun
Rd 14 is over 3 months away, you shouldn't determine your starting side for this reason, a lot of water under the bridge until then, good team Derek besides the Lycett pick IMO.
thanks. Good advice.
Regards Lycett, you have to know I love my R2 picks. Not the set n forget for me.
Well Lycett already looks like a better pick than bloody Kreuzer. I had Lycett in my team for such a long time as well, maybe next time I will back myself.
127,200K – Still cash there
DEF: Laird, Hibberd, H Shaw, Doedee, Naughton, Murray (Finlayson, Murphy)
MID: Danger, Dusty, Mitchell, Kelly, Fyfe, Brayshaw, Banfield, O'Connor (Holman, Barry, Kelly)
RUCK: Gawn, Nat (Olango)
FWD: Heeney, Billings, Smith, Petracca, Christensen, Fritsch (Ryan, Garlett)
Should I go LDU/Clarke for O'connor? Olango for English or another idea?
Would love some best ideas. Thanks
Lloyd named on a wing. Mighty tempting to start him over hibberd at D2. Thoughts? Defence is where to take the risks this season
Where they get named doesn’t mean anything.
For me, defence is the place where I'm not going too risky. The forward line is so hard to pick the top 8, that any pick outside of buddy or Heeney is basically a risky pick. Therefore my plan is to lock down a big chunk of my backline, with Hurley, Laird, Hibberd and Savage all in my starting team. I would pick Hibberd over Lloyd, Hibberd is the general down back whereas Lloyd will get impacted heavily with McVeigh in the team. Check out Lloyd's scores with and without McVeigh. However, Lloyd still represents value and is likely to… Read more »
Valid points!
Have posted my side in the comments Sloane. Would love to hear ya 2 bobs worth. Got a huge kitty to play with
I really like it mate! If Libba and Coniglio are locked in, I would probably use the war chest to upgrade Bonner to a premo who you think will end the year in the top 8. Who you think that will be is up to you
We only have 30 trades, and while there is a lot of value to be had, you can't rely purely on value picks and you still want to get as close to your round 23 team as you possibly can. Trades are golden
Thanks mate.
I have been flirting with bonner to savage or sicily for a stronger D3 or venables to sicily at f5. Probably can’t go to wrong with either. Should save me a trade down the track like you mentioned they are priceless.
Should I put Naughton on bench and get Riley bonner or keep naugton on field and get O'Connor Geelong
Sicily or lobb at f5?
Upgrading either Langdon or venables to one.
Had the VC on dusty, will be keeping the C on danger. Taking the hit this week as I already had to change my structure a little to accommodate the higher priced rookies, and not sold on the job security of some of the rookies named round 1.
Def: laird hibberd bonner naughton finlayson Murray (doedee murphy)
Mid: danger Mitchell kelly Fyfe coniglio Libba brayshaw Holman (kelly barry banfied)
Ruck: goldy gawn (olango)
Fwd: heeney lambert McLean smith Langdon fritsch (venables Garlett)
A huge war chest of 308k! Where can I use most of it?
Libba And coniglio are locked in so not on them thanks
Maybe my f5 or d4? Throw some ideas n players my way guys.
Have a look at Lobb for F5
You believe lobb will outscore a sicily or petracca?
Have a quick look at GWS draw and who Lobb is up against. Except for Sandi in round 4, but he will score well around ground, he has chance to start very well and get some good match fitness and decent scores.
I have Petracca at F4 and Lobb F5
I would go Petracca ahead of Lobb
How does the community feel about Tim English? Low scoring potential but could worth it for ruck cover.
Tempting but his got a low scoring potential. I like having the loophole of olango (& banking 30k) with all my other rookies playing though. Probably a lot of ppl in this boat. Just depend on what suits your structure and game plan.
I’m really surprised he is playing. Dogs have Roughie, Campbell, Schat, Boyd and Tregrove all ahead of him.
He must have really improved over the pre season
Did he play any JLT?
Lobb or McLean?
McLean seems expensive to me. I think he will do ok, if he gets more midfield time he will do a bit better than his price.
Lobb seems a bargain if he will be #1 ruck
Luke Ryan, Sicily or mills?
Ryan
Are any of the expensive rookies worth it?
How many are people starting with.
I have None.
I did have Naughton until O’Conner was named.
So far Dow and Fogarty have been underwhelming.
Right now there are just enough cheap rookies to fill the rookie places.
BVC article was outstanding plus the piece in the second JR magazine on Cash Generation taking about how cheap rookies make more cash, make me keep away.
The only one I have is Brayshaw. He could possibly avg 80-85 and be worth $400,000 in no time.
I only have Naughton currently because I am only 2 defenders deep in the backline. I like Brayshaw but he just costs a lot of money so I will likely pass.
Unfortunately I didn’t see Brayshaw play in JLT. Do not sure what he can do.
I saw Naughton play, he is a tall key defender! Played ok but he will be a very slow burn.
Brayshaw's much better than Naughton I reckon, he already looks the full package..can do it all.
o’Conner is out with ankle injury
Bugger!…I'm gonna hang onto him anyway, good for the swing.
Only have Naughton Derek. Agree, slow burn, but good job security and looks like a decent intercept mark.
Don't have him but am very interested to watch LDU despite his crap JLT. Terry Wallace reckons he was a cut above all in the last draft. Think I might have just enough cash to get him as a corrective trade if he lives up to the hype.
Not many people picking Walters from Freo, am I missing something?
I can’t trust Rossco
Can't be certain as to how much midfield time he'll get. Is a big risk big reward selection.
Petracca or Sicily?!
Have a look at Melb draw. Quite SC friendly.
Viney won’t be playing for a while. Lewis will be playing in defence this year.
There is room in guts for Petracca and he has Max tapping it down.
Sicily will have some great games and some very poor ones. It will depend on the opponent making him accountable. If he is forced to man up he will score 30’s because he isn’t a natural defender. He wants the easy intercepts and long kicks. Too risky for me, but as a hawks fan I want him to do well.
Petracca, his style and impact = big points.
Petracca it is. Upgrade fritsch Langdon or venables? I like venables JS but guts saying him
I like Venables a lot. Will put him on field
Decided to come ask the community for some advice before I do something stupid to my team. First time I have gone set and forget in the ruck and I doubt I will do it again. D: Laird, Ryan, Naughton, Murray, Doedee, Finlayson (Murphy, O'Connor) M: Martin(VC), Titch, Kelly, Oliver, Zerret, Fyfe, Holman, Ahern(C) (Banfield, Kelly, Barry) R: Kreuzer, Gawn (English) F: Heeney, Billings, Smith, Sicily, Lobb, Fritsch (Ryan, Venables) $44k in the bank Not the greatest start with both Zerret and Kreuzer going down leaving me with half my hair pulled out. Should I be looking to keep them,… Read more »
Could trade English down to Olango and see who you can get for O'Connor?
yeah but then if Kreuzer only misses 1-2 weeks I am screwed as I will have no cover.
I was looking at Luke ryan to Cox leaving me with a lot of cash to go Zerret to Danger next week.
Now with having so many rookies who are not playing and barely any options I am unsure.
Could also just leave O'Connor and hope he plays?
I could but I don't feel comfortable with both Ahern and O'Connor who could end up as donuts. Might need to find a way to fork out the cash for Brayshaw but nothing seems great to me.
Can't make up my mind on the Kreuzer conundrum.
Do I wait for next week and assess, possibly trade him out or bring in Flynn (DPP) for Olango and slot Cox into f5 for Bundy to provide cover?
I kind of like the idea of being able to cover Kreuz/Gawn if they miss a week instead of sideways trading them, Kreuzer looked like going big before the injury, can't find any news yet on how bad it is.
I have the cash to make the move and still have $100k change.
Yeah I am stuck with the same dilemma. If I trade Ryan to Cox via Sicily I have cover for my ruck and I have enough cash so I can upgrade Zerret to Danger next week.
A really tough choice
Hey Hed, I reckon do that..Coxy could turn out to be ok, Christensen could reinjure his shoulder anytime, then you can wait on Kruez and hope he's ok within 2.
Agree Russty wait but I would give PEDERSON a lot of thought J S will be good for 8 weeks. I traded Kruz for Nank minutes to go . have a dead set Guns n Rookies set up best 2 def best 6 mids cept martin gawn/ nank and two best forwards p only two midpricers flog SICILY and LAMBERT but MY 16 rookies need to make 200 each will take time
Hey Neil yeah Cam will do well without T-Mac taking points, I had him last year and he turned out to be a nice pod. I'm a bit more midpriced madness than you in my squad, I have about 6 of the buggers…no risk, no reward hah.
Could go English at R3 as cover. Put your loop on another line.
Cheers guys, think I will go with the Flynn/Cox plan, if Kreuz is more long term I can trade him to Ryder and have coverage for his bye.
I'm going the Cox route. Figure we need to make the most of the unlimited trades and save a trade on kruze of you also have Merritt. Gives an easy route to danger for those of us that took him out.
Cox is a burn man…i'd evaluate the extent of Kreuzers injury…plenty of good options if you don't want to take the risk (Goldy, Witts, Martin, etc). Just using a valuable trade you might need later on
Well here it goes, tear this team a new one peoples..
Def: Hurley, Laird, Simpson, Naughton, Doedee, Finlayson, (Murray,Murphy)
Mid: Mitchell, Martin, Kelly, Fyfe, Armitage, Brayshaw, Kelly, Holman, (Dangerfield, Banfield, Barry)
Ruck: Gawn, Goldstein, (Olango)
Fwd: Franklin, Boak, Petracca, Christensen, Rayner, Fritsch, (Waterman, Garlett)
76k left as of RD 1
Im kicking myself over the Murphy pick, Reckon that might be his first and last for a while, will go Coffield/more solid pick as corrective if needed. No DPP available in any position yet, but i personally have no drama with that.
I,d get rid of Simpson. Too old 😉
And maybe Laird, just too small
And he should've starter Doedee on the bench, with Murphy onfield lol
LOL, 150 Friday night and hell probably bless me with a 75 next week, still reckon will score plenty without Docherty playing. And yes, Laird is small, Head like chicken…
Does anyone know anything about Billy Gowers ?? (Fwd 117,500) Bulldogs -Thanks
which 1 of these 3 up to tracca. Venables fritsch or Langdon
I really like venables JS and midfield opportunities
Langdon high pressure fwd gws need one
& fritsch was on fire in JLT. His js any good?
Im gonna get me plums out on this one and show world what I’m packing. Lewis Taylor as a pod? 0% of teams always shown potential. Rocky gone can he cement a spot in the guts? Jeez it’s ballsy
Hadn't really been looking at him at all, to be honest. But with Rocky out and Hanley injured, there are a few points up for grab at the Lions. But would take massive plums.
i Got him in my draft league. Very happy
Went for a massage just gone to do the trade & didn’t realise lions played the early game! Ships sailed on Lewis watch him ton up here an have a break out year
Said it two weeks ago. Has been in my side all preseason.
I think you will be very pleased donkey
Solid 94 today – could be the shark move of the season.
Was in and out of my side – it was between him and Lobb. Will see how that one goes.
If I have Zerret is it worth burning a trade to move him to Danger next week?
That sounds like a problem for next week, seeing as how we don't know if Zerret is out (or more likely, for how long), and we don't know if Danger is in.
Option 1 – petracca & oliver
Option 2 – sicily & kelly
2 easily imo
1
Option 1 just. Unsure about Sicily’s consistency
Sicily and Oliver?
Missed sicily . Kelly n lobb or tracca n Oliver finnius?
Lobb and Oliver?
I’m open to that option
The injury cloud not a worry?
Barely an injury a very slight knock is all . The red nuts as tough as nails
Or do u mean lobbs injury cloud arz? Haha his I’m worried about a little more so but played two praccys they wouldn’t pick him if not 100% I hope
Kelly & Lobb
I'm seeing a lot of SC players in disarray concerning what to do with Danger. Can't believe many actually sideway trading with premos that may be a good upgrade option down the track and then taking them out again for Danger that's 2 trade wasted. If you hadn't planned this situation, suck it up and stick with Danger for this 1 round. I'm confident as Scott he'll play next week. Danger may not score big when he comes back, but will save you a trade or two and still have that option target to get a premo later on. As… Read more »
I think those like myself who didn't choose danger in the initial squad are hoping that he has a lower output than what he did last year for the first couple of games he plays, and banking on that he will drop 60-70k, and a player like coniglio for instance will average around 100. that means that in the first 5 rounds you break even on points between the 2 players, yet gain 110K in cash for 1 trade. thats my thoughts anyway
The thing is you'll need a couple of plans if going down that path. What happens if the player selected is pumping 110+ are they gonna cull that player for Danger. 1 trade will be wasted and may miss out on that player scoring, if they don't do the trade and Danger starts pumping huge score they'll be tearing their hair out on how to get him back in.
Sure if Kreuzer misses 2+ we trade him out but if it is only 1-2 I am not taking donuts. Cox/English are necessary in case it is only 1-2 weeks
I'm guessing you're sacrificing Lobb for Cox/English. What were your plan with Lobb or expecting him to score for you? I'm guessing you picked Lobb for scoring output. Now you're banking on Cox purely to cover Kreuzer for two weeks, then what after? I know a few people who had groin injury and they played basketball in Center position and they weren't right for a few a weeks.
D3 H Shaw or Sicily
Don't like either to be honest
I've got Laird, Hibberd, Doedee, Naughton and Murray on field.
What structure, i can probably get a Lloyd/Savage but not sold either.
Luke Ryan is a talented guy, could have a great year now that he's in Freo's best 22.
Mills will improve this year. Not sure how much. At least 85+
I loved how McGrath looked last night, I see McGrath as Mills MK2.
Savage versus Sicily
Tmitch versus Kelly
Sic and tmitch
O'Connor late out – replaced by Murdoch.
His job security is poor as I previously mentioned.
The final blow to my team. I should have started Garrlett because I don't have enough rookies now
show your team mate, I'm sure we can come up with a solution.
I posted it an hour ago I think if you want to scroll down a bit.
Cheers
Really? Still in on AFL website but may need to be updated?
It's on Afl website now
Thanks see it now … well, I am out of options in the backline. May just have to hold him … he is obviously close to getting a game but JS looks shaky at best
He injured his ankle. His JS is fine
Any idea of the severity of the injury Derek..rolled ankle, broken ankle?
In that case, I might hold … I am just about cooked!
I might have to as well. Any info on how bad it is Derek?
The AFL.com.au article just says "ankle injury" DM.
Tom Murphy from North is another option … poor JLT stats from 39% game time but named as an emergency this week, has DPP and in a poor team. Maybe an option … got a few hours to decide!
Maybe I bring in Fogarty from Geelong
Dunno Derek, depends how long he is out for. If he is out for a couple of weeks, the cavalry will have arrived by then.
Kelly or Barry on field for Danger?
I looped Fogarty so looking for a bit better score.
Holding Danger.
I'd go with Kelly Hedski, don't see barry doing much
I saw Kelly play, looks good.
Didn’t see Barry. Can’t help.
I’ll go Kelly
Cheers boys went Kelly, Barry spudding it up.
Hey Community! Walters or McLean?
Walters
Ryan or Giles-Langdon
GL
127K – Replacement for O'Connor?
DEF: Laird, Hibberd, H Shaw, Doedee, Naughton, Murray (Finlayson, Murphy)
MID: Danger, Dusty, Mitchell, Kelly, Fyfe, Brayshaw, Banfield, O'Connor (Holman, Barry, Kelly)
RUCK: Gawn, Nat (Olango)
FWD: Heeney, Billings, Smith, Petracca, Christensen, Fritsch (Ryan, Garlett)
Could get Worpel, should get a run at some stage, or leave O'Connor in the backline until he plays.
I've got O'Connor in mids, was thinking LDU or Clark?
You could swap O'Connor and Finlayson.
That's what I said John, don't think he got it.
You said you have 127K?
If it's 127k before you trade, then I reckon Clark, he's a gun.
Who has better JS, Langdon or Ryan?
Langdon or Ryan last rookie choice? Im thinking Langdon.
Langdon for mine, I have both on the bench.
Got 4 rookies fwd already have Garlett Venables & Firtsch last discussion is either Langdon or Ryan.
This is my last rookie choice as well. Leaning towards Ryan because of his better JS but I could change my mind quickly
Clark or barry???
I was thinking of the following options for Dangerfield. 1. leave in the team and see what score my E (Banfield) scores. If no good will move Kelly onto field to replace Danger. Holman and Brayshaw currently on field – Barry on bench because he is in the same game as Banfield. 2. trade to L Keeffe, swap with Finlayson to mids, and take Doedee's 87. Next week, trade back Keeffe to Danger or Dusty if Dangerfield doesn't play. This way I can have a look at the Port/Freo game before assessing my options and can wait till Sunday to… Read more »
Option 1 I think, not worth burning a trade chasing a few extra points in week 1, I'm holding Danger as Leagues don't start until round 3.
Depends on what your priority is I guess, I like winning Leagues, rank comes second for me and is a pipe dream for all but 1 of us.
Option 2: Classic case of chasing points and wasting trades. Just cop it the chin mate and forget Doedee score. Good luck with that, if you pick this option.
Option 1: is the better of the 2
Thanks Russty and SCdonkey – appreciate your views and i will stick with Danger.
Cheers mate, good luck, nothing worse than the regretful early trades made when you're stuck in the finals with only 1 or 2, or none!
Thoughts on which midfield set up I should go with
1. Danger, Mitchell, Kelly, Merrett, Parker – 38K
2. Danger, Kelly, Zorko, Merrett, Bont/Parker – 51K/83K
3. Danger, Kelly, Neale/Fyfe, Merrett, Bont/Parker – 62K/93K
Appreciate any thoughts/advice.
Keeffe or o’connor? I know both aren’t playing. Feel like O’Connor more likely to play, but Keeffe can switch with Sicily in the forward
And is English worth the spend? If so, do I put him at R3 or F8. If I put him in the fwd, I could only swap Giles – Langdon out. Got kruezer so English might come in handy
Better to put him in the ruck as it saves you a trade in the long run if you use him as cover when your R3 doesn't have DPP.
For anyone wondering what to do with O'Connor, what I've done is sub a fwd premo into the guts (in my case Mundy) and bring in a west coast rookie (I brought in venables)
Next week I'll sub Garlett onto the mid bench and Mundy goes back to f2
Another reason that makes me wish I had Garlett
I was looking at doing this with Heeney but decided against it, opting for another premo mid instead (Kelly) as the on-field points didn't justify the change.
Savage looks to be struggling with Roberton and Geary running off half back.
Zorko struggling early.
Billings and Armo looking the goods early!
Yeah BB, fingers crossed Armo and Billings have big games 🙂
Both on 40+
Haven't even seen Zorko get a touch yet.
Yep, he better pull a 50 point 2nd quarter.
At least Billings is killing it.
Sitting on 3 sc points at quarter time.
3 kicks 1 handball 0% efficiency and 3 clangers
He's having an absolute shocker. Between him and Merrett I'm stuffed.
1. I haven't actually planned for any injuries as my concern was on whether I should have Danger in my team at all given he's missing Round 1. He's in though as I think he's too good a player to miss out on, and hopefully he's back next week. 2. Don't think I'll have any more changes to my side barring rookies if something goes awry there. Had lots of changes to my team structure in the last few days but I'm very happy with how it currently is, which is this with 27K in the bank: DEF: Hurley, Laird,… Read more »
When I heard Keeffe was emergency I brought O'Connor in in defence but now that hes out should I just bring Keeffe back to have that swing with Sicily or is there another defensive rookie I can get? Already have Naughton, Doedee, Murray, Finlayson.
I would just bring Keefe back if no more are playing.
i have same issue. keefe or o'connor. cant decide
To those brave enough to start armitage, well done. He is looking the goods.
Thought he was a solid pick this year Holty, proven performer and still young enough to get back to his best.
He was on my wish list. But to be fair right at the bottom of it. I just didnt have the courage this year to go these midpricers as the last few years they have been letdowns. Just hope liba doesnt pump out a ton as he was the one I've been keen on all preseason but dropped him at the last minute
Jack Graham looks like he could've been a good pickup too, and Jaeger could have a big year.
Injury affected 79 not an indicator of anything. Lets hope he can play next week
I didn't think that was too bad Trev, the injury but if he's down next week, might go straight to Graham.
I am putting all my eggs on Kreuzer playing next week. If he doesn't I may be slightly screwed because of the changes I made to my team.
Zorko on -1 nearing halfway through second qtr.
-4 now. Ouch
Could have a good second half after the Coach tears him a new one at halftime.
Lambert like. Glad I only had Kane and not both
Can he go the whole game without an effective disposal. Certainly trying his best.
2 points at the half for Zorko the Magnificent
Change that to Crapnificent lol
Rich done for the day too
Sicily or petracca?
Petracca's a gun.
Going Petracca means I have to go with Slightly cheaper in my midfield instead of kelly.
So basically:
kelly & Sicily or
Petracca Selwood/oliver
Yeah I would go with Sicily and Oliver
Oliver's a good pick, also a gun,
Definitely going to have a bigger tank than last year and Gawn hopefully fit all season to help Oliver
yeah my bad I didn't see the oliver option after selwood. Oliver over Kelly for me
Ideally, you'd wanna end up with both though DM.
Yeah I am starting with both in my team
Yeah I have danger Mitchell kelly/oliver Fyfe. Wish I could fit both in also
Tom Bell looks to be one of those JLT hype picks. Spudding it up
For sure..I thought Christensen looked the same but he's coming good.
outscored Zorko by 300% 22 minutes into 3rd qrtr
Glad I’m a year older and wiser. Last year I’d of been sucked into the bell hype
Roberton is looking the go to off half back for the Saints, can already feel the rage trade coming for Savage.. I’ll be smart give him a game and a half to show me more
He started cold in the JLT then came home strong. Hope for your sake he comes home strong.
Zorko… hahahahahahahaha
Captain… hahahahahahahaha
2 points in a half:.. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I feel for ya mate.
Oh man so it aint so
How is that even possible?!!
Imagine if you had Merrett and Zorko…
Imagine having zerrett zorko and kreuzer like me…and lets not forget im holding danger…in for a HUGE round 1
Atleast the decision to take neale over fyfe looks alright atm
At least he has double digits now?… The pain and the stench of the big turd is unbearable for me.
Bonner looking very very good
Jeez he's looking the goods 40 before qt
And Brayshaw, and Ryan, I have all 3 yay!
Brayshaw! Top scorer 5 mins to go in the 1st quarter!
Fyfe struggling early. But good for Brayshaw and Banfield, both started well.
uurrgh Zorko
it's between him and Mcartin for low score. I have em both
I've brought Oliver in guys. So far other late ins for me include Zerrett and Zorko. You've been warned
I’d just done the same, Trade reversed. Thanks for the heads up rick!
LOL.
I just did Danger/Oliver…
Do I reverse LOL.
Was tossing up Kreuzer & Savage or Hibberd & Ryder…
I definitely did not choose the correct option.
Just imagine if you'd gone Ryder and Kreuzer
I wonder how many had Kreuz, Merrett, Zorko plus rookies murphy and Barry on field
Kreuz + Libba + Naughton on field 50k'th here
Fyfe VC not looking promising
Clark & Barry are going as well as Murphy did.
The hype around Bonnar looks correct.
I’m going keep O’Conner in defence and $160k in the bank. Next couple of weeks I might have to trade out any of my dud cheap rookies to Bonnar. Have Garlett in mids so I can trade any of my forward, mid or defence rookies and get Bonnar.
Yeah I'm already looking at how I can swap into Bonner next week. If he keeps playing like he did in the first half he will make a huge amount of money.
I have no way to get him in now. Chose Brayshaw over Bonner
Angus?
How are you tracking Russty? McCartin, Zorko combined didn't score as much as an average rookie. That sort of ruined me.
ASK him about the saints Trev 6 tons from irrelevant StKilda time for a rethink
I had 3 of them Steven and Billings plus Spud McCartin instead of Garlett
Nice effort getting Jack for $500k Trev, I'm jealous, should've backed him in!
Told ya Paddy would dish up some 40's, I went Christensen instead, but I just flipped a coin really.
Hey Trev, 996 from 11, not great but not terrible, had Fogarty, Brayshaw and Christensen's spuddy scores in there, and disappointing Armitage after quarter time..T-Mitch as Captain. Glad I picked Billings, Bonner and Ryan.
Yeah I got Banfields instead of Brayshaws and took Holman off for TKelly not a brilliant round here
The Fremantle one
78 at half time, killing it
Watching him closely, there will be a few rookies will go after round 2.
I've got 130k spare Derek, will be looking to potentially upgrade Naughton after rd 2
I could have got naughtin when o’conner Not named, but would have cash to trade any other rookie, only naughton.
This way, via O’Connor and Garlett I can trade ANY of my cheap rookies from any line.
Might be Barry the way he is going
I wish i had the same freedom in that regard. I suppose i could go parker down to Cogs and keep the extra cash. Trading Keefe to bonner next round sounds enticing.
If I drop Zorko for Curnow I can turn murphy into Bonner. The week after I'll turn McCartin into Marchbank
Then get Zorko back after round 5 for 150k cheaper
sounds brilliant mate sorry but gonna steal it
no worries mate if you've got the line flexibility may as well exploit it straight away. How are you going? Wish that I had have gotten Hogan instead of McCarting but I was holding cash to upgrade Zorko to Danger for week 3. That plan is gone
going ok trev got some great imfo from scpaige which helped no end same last year know their stuff tich helps cheers
Hey community,
Was Zorko copping a hard tag today? Or was his spudliness just having a shocker?
Hard tag. I was at the game. Great signs for the lions…. Is it me or are St.Kilda fans complete flogs? To me they are worse than Collingflog fans
Should be out of trades by the bye rounds at that rate.
Nah we get 30 and I've usually used 4 before the price rise and never ran out yet
Zorko might have to go. Can't avcept this level of spud.
I can see him going 150 next week, had an absolute shocker
I wouldn't burn a trade like that, he's just had a major stain of the pants this week. Watch him bounce back well next week.
agree – think robbie gray last year.
Still likely to finish the year as a top eight mid
you've probably copped his worst score for the year already, hold on he'll come good
Bonner you beautiful human! Now libba & cognilio to really hit there straps tomorrow
what is an acceptable score for an onfield mid rookie ?
i'd take anything 65+ from a rookie Richard.
ok thanks
really 60+ is pretty good looking at most of this week's mid rookie scores.
bulldogs AFLW team won today. Jesus libba don’t get on a tare tonight with Katie Brennan or I’ll lose my M6. Show some f$&@ing self control Tom! Please
Don't reckon Katie will be wanting to hang out with any men after her decision Mav…lol, it'll be a girl's night only!
I have 36k in the bank which i will use to go Weitering to Marchbank.
Should i hold Sicily and Kreuzer even though i got rid of Keefe for Murphy
or
use the money to go Sicily to petracca now then next week trade Kreuzer down to whatever ruckman and use that cash to do the weitering trade.
Thoughts?
Kreuzer could still play, he is a tough guy. I might have just talked myself into believing this to maintain my sanity
I really hope so
Well! There ya go another Ruck is down. Ryder Achilles
Wow!…carnage already 2 of the best Rucks gone.
Are you serious?!!
Damn Martin Will be popular
Done incredibly well to avoid all this carnage of injuries & bad score. Considering I had zerrett and Ryder in right up till last night and swapped to kelly & goldy
Round 1 is not over mate. Keep your fingers crossed.
Wouldn't be joking about it I have him😔
This is just crazy already
Lycett might have been the correct play. I am just hoping Kreuzer plays
haha the Bradshaw manouvre
Round 1 Carnage, early tradings for sure. Lucky i had plan for this situation.
Rocky is blowing cobwebs or he's just done going towards his time.
Kelly or titch C?
As a collingwood fan i think Titch will score very well. It'll be a good old fashioned game of midfield v midfield and it should be good for points.
TMitch.
I'd go TMitch but, I swapped Kelly for Zorko today
I've got the C on Fyfe this week. Fingers crossed he can get going otherwise my season may be in trouble.
Sorry for your loss
Thanks Lek, waved goodbye to the 50k the instant i pressed the button.
864 from 8 includes Zorko and McCartin.
TMitch, Bont, Gawn, Hibberd, Heeney, Buddy, Petracca plus rookies to play
Cripps, Laird, Steven, Billings, all going 130+ helps
Kruezer & Ryder going Down is making me second guess goldy… should I go down to Nicnat and bank 50k?
Nah go for english and see what happens for the rest of the round
Hope ya kept goldy!
Locked n loaded steeeve
Gator and Russty Last time I take advice from you two 6 YES 6 tons from s c irrelevant saints…and GATOR I went against some took BILLINGS thanks enjoy TASSIE
To be fair, they won't get to verse Brisbane every week.
Hey Neilo, I never said don't have any Saints mate, I've got Billings and Armo in my squad, wish I had Steven too.