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The Standing Room – Round 1 Chat

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G’day Community,

Only two days in and I already feel like I need a stiff drink.

Had Kreuzer and Lambert…Kreuz concerns me, Lambert not so much. He was a spud for a half but still got over 70, his points will come.

The big one is Zerrett, what a nightmare that is for coaches. Any doctors out there? Medical or psychological? Patch needs some help.

Alright, here’s what I want to talk about

  1. Injuries, what’s your backup plan?
  2. Last minute changes, you making any?
  3. VC/C if you didn’t go Dusty or Cripps, who you got? (I’m going Fyfe into a Geelong/Melbourne player I reckon)
  4. Anyone going to any games this weekend, let’s fill a bay and yell Tony Olango’s name on repeat

Lot’s of love, Lekdog


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Griggsy

I have Zerrett and Danger. Do I bring someone in for Danger and then burn a trade by trading Zerrett to Danger next week? All of a sudden my pod Zerrett seems Ike a bad idea.

TheGreatBozza

Is Zerrett going to be out next week? I don’t like the idea of burning a trade this early on, unless Zerrett is going to miss 2+ weeks

Griggsy

was thinking he's had multiple concussions already, might be the start of a worrying trend

Duckky

Word from the club is he is very unlikely to be risked in Perth next week. Wait till Thursday.

PaddytheMelon

Where'd you hear that from?

Tyruddanaut

Not a great POD. More than 10% ownership in the first place

bigboi

i think patch should make a new team before 3rd game starts… no cripps, martin has kreuzer. rip

Will

Thoughts on downgrading Danger to Armitage then when Zerrett drops go from Armo to Zerrett? (plan to bring back danger asap)

VC on T.Mitchell, C on either Bont or Kelly

LuskinStar

I tried something similar a couple of years ago. Found myself short of trades And missing points. Don’t do it.

Spifflicator

A truly horrible idea. DO NOT DO IT!

TheGreatBozza

Don’t like Danger to Armo. Too big a drop off. I like the logic of using a mid pricer to get a cheap Zerret, but is there another way you can do it?

Will

How cheap will Zerret get? lets say he comes out and averages 110 for the next 4 weeks..

TheGreatBozza

Not 100% on the maths and breakevens; but I’d assume he could go down past 500k

Anon

Shouldn't go down too much if his next two scores are big, the 19 will only be in his price calculations for 1 week as it's a 3 round rolling average .

Daniel

That's not even close – because it was in round 1, like Anon says, it only counts in his rolling average for one price change.
For him to get under 500k, he'd have to put out three consecutive 70s to dip under 500k. Most likely, he returns and puts up two 100s, and he would then be around 545k.

Defying_Madness

and I doubt anyone would be able to afford him at round 3 so he likely goes back up in price.

TheGreatBozza

I’m not good at quick mafs

INPieman

Round 1 score is only in 1 price movement. It's not going to make him crash in price at all. Second score of the season is far more important

TheGreatBozza

Armo is starting to prove me wrong

nbasportsandnews

Need some help!

Pick 2 of these guys

Fritsch
Ryan
Stephenson
Venables

Cheers

BrownlowBoy

Fritisch Ryan

SCdonkey

Fritsch and Ryan for me. Going by JLT form Fritsch well do ok and will be a big cash cow at low price. Ryan was ok at JLT showed a promising sign, good for bench cover.

TheGreatBozza

Can someone call me crazy for considering Mason Cox as a Krooz cover? My options are:

1. Olango to English; losing loophole option. Keep Bundy and Greene up forward
2. Olango to Hayes (DPP and loop option). Then go Bundy to Cox, Greene down to Billings (need to do it to free up cap space)

Thoughts? Krooz has me in a pickle already

Mike

I’d go English before Cox, $300k is expensive bench cover.

TheGreatBozza

Cox would be F5 over Christensen, and cover Krooz for a week or 2

INPieman

If you've got 50k in your bank I'd consider Olango & Bundy out for English & Cox. Plenty of DPP flexibility & both might keep playing. Having said that I can't see either English or Cox being good scorers. The top 13 rucks last year Av 18 games each. So the cover could be useful down the track as well

TheGreatBozza

I’d have to drop a Mitchell to kelly or Pendles to Parker to fit Cox and English. I like my mid structure though. Tough calls to be made

TheGreatBozza

I also think cox has much better scoring potential than english

dontblushbaby

Initially had Barlow ,but not sure who to pick now between Menegola,McLean, Billings or Mundy as a POD, already have Knob Head,Smith and Tracca

AuroraBorealis?!

For me the best option there is Billings, jumped from an avg of 74.9 in 2016 to an avg of 92.7 in 2017. Looks to be on an upward trend and should get a decent amount of midfield minutes.

LuskinStar

I always start Zerritt but this year went Oliver instead. Happy with that choice at the moment. Also have Kreuz and Danger. Both have surprising low ownership so I don’t want to give up potential no 1s who are pods too soon. Will give Danger 3 weeks. Anyone heard how bad Kreuz is?

Knaggerz

Are Walters and Sicily the real deal? Feel like traps

Russty_

Could both be but you never know with speculative picks, Walters can go big and will be more in the midfield, Sicily finished strong last year but can be over-emotional and a bit floggy.

Westy

Sicily scored well last night. I picked Roughy instead. πŸ™

Starkingdom

Sicily had 5 clangers and still scored 125 thanks to his 84 DE%. If you don't have him now you got to get him in before his price rise. Looks like a top 6 defender to me.

BVB21

They will both be inconsistent.

suhdagel

giles langdon or keep keeffe and wait till he plays?

Blaknight

Keep Keeffe in your Back if you have Sicili in your FWD. Will be handy once you start upgrading/downgrading rookies to premos.

nbasportsandnews

Unused rookies or low cost players are wasted right now need to be making cash in as many areas as possible

Starkingdom

Good advice nba

suhdagel

Don't have sicily, and keeffe is my fwd bench, should i go giles jangdon or keeffe at F7

Russty_

Yeah do it mate, no point having Keefe if you don't have Siciflog.

David C

You can always use Keeffe as a downgrade target when he finally gets selected. No need to start him if he's not playing.

The_Blacksheep

As a rule never select a rookie who isnt named round 1, no matter who it is.

Locked and Loaded

Final adjustments guys

Dom Barry
LDU
Hunter Clark

Just need one????

TheGreatBozza

Barry. Pocket the cash

Locked and Loaded

What I was leaning towards cheers mate

David C

Gray comes back in next week. Good chance Barry will be dropped.

Abel Grant

Different role

David C

Reckon Motlop might take his role. Gray forward more.

pod

Barry

Blaknight

L.Ryan or B Fritsch on field?

DacZawson

Fritsch

Corey

Fritsch

Cliffy

Having trouble working out one more rookie Forward position to play on field.

Have Fritsch, Giles-Langdon and Ryan, but now need to pick one of Stephenson, Bell, Rayner, am I missing anyone else? Thoughts guys?

Cheers

Cliffy

The rest of the team looks like this too for this Round (if there are any other suggestions):

Def: Laird, Hibberd, Lloyd, Bonner, Doedee, Murray (Naughton, Finlayson)

Mid: Dusty, Kelly, Fyfe, TMitchell, Coniglio, Kelly, Brayshaw, Holman (Banfield, Barry, Garlett)

Ruck: Martin, Gawn (King)

Fwd: Heeney, Billings, McLean, Smith, Bell*, Fritsch (Ryan, Langdon)

Shake_n_Bake_

Venables

Cliffy

Think he could score ok on-field most weeks?

TheSwindler

Should I get rid of either Hunter Clark or Barry for O'connor? Thinking of a potential mid/def swing with finlayson

Starkingdom

I would keep Barry and bring in O'Connor for the swing. Hunter is an expensive rookie and I haven't seen enough to suggest he's worth the risk.

Rucks=points

Gawn to captain take the risk. Had dusty as vice and all my rookies playing. Not trading one out to double 139. 150+ yeah maybe. Gawn's your man get on him.

Dukes

Crazy not to take a garunteed 130 everytime

neil demons delight

he cant

David C

Get in someone like Ahern who should get games at NM.

Leigh

Just bring in Mitchell King @r3
Take Dustys score

Love a tag

Hi community,

I have 1 forward spot to fill. Have Heaney and Billings.

Can't decided between Buddy, Greene or a midpricer.

Thanks in advance for any advice

Rucks=points

Buddy in a good side mate. Greenes good but the grass is greener and not as likely to be removed by the umpires during the year.

Starkingdom

Greene is a star and a flog, just got to hope the flog in him is gone.

Derek

Greene had no preseasons

Beezneez

Scored 56 from 48% TOG in JLT2.

Starkingdom

Dangerfield down to 22% teams. It's going to be an interesting season.

David C

19.5% now … dropping fast.

Steve

Parker and Mclean (20k left) or Heeney and Libba (65k left)?

DacZawson

Parker, McLean

Danny

Keeffe or O Connor?

Mike

Keefe not playing

Danny

Yeah I know, just as a D8

DacZawson

Are there any cats fans out there that may have any insight as to O'Connor's job security?

DacZawson

I'm so tempted by Fogarty's scoring potential with his tackling pressure but JS is a problem

Starkingdom

He's a last minute upgrade from the rookie list so the signs are there. He's 191cm and 87kg and at 21 yrs old seems like a very good inclusion. His tackling and accurate kicking will (hopefully) see him stay the distance. Last years 2 games weren't flash but it was his first season and coming from a different format of the game you'd expect him to take some time to adapt.

"In early 2017, O’Connor was upgraded to Geelong’s senior list. Mark’s form in the VFL was highly promising as he displayed great improvement in his newly adopted game. His running in through the midfield as well as disposal was a large factor of his elevation. Mark debuted for the AFL side against Essendon. After finishing the year with 2 senior appearances, Mark’s progress has been excellent and he will now look towards the 2018 season where he hopes to make further contributions." .. found at http://tlaworldwide.com/talent/mark-oconnor-2/

BrownlowBoy

Did nothing last year. Scored 28 and 35 in his two games. Geelong have too much depth for him to be a regular. The likes of Danger, Henderson, Scooter Selwood, Murdoch, Cockatoo, McCarthy, Buzza, Crameri all gonna be rotating through the team at some point.

DacZawson

BB what rookie would you be taking in the midfield then?
I've already got Brayshaw, Banfield, Holman, Barry, Kelly and Finlayson down back

BrownlowBoy

I had Garlett in there. Could always swing Finlayson into the mids and grab Naughton if you don't have him. Otherwise Clark/LDU is an option.

DacZawson

Yeah I think I may go Clark and then if Garlett seems worth a corrective trade pre-Round 3 than I'll trade Clark down.

pod

Henderson the only defensive player out of those you mentioned. So much talent still to be included in the Cats lineup, looking good!

Blaknight

D.Barry or N.Holman with the E. Will loophole Danger if the E scores big. Will swap T.Kelly out for Danger

DacZawson

I like Holman

Holty

Agreed. His js is better imo

Abel Grant

Holman big tackler. Playing in wet today.

pod

Holman

Beezneez

I'm thinking Banfield plays first so i'm putting the E on him and Holman and Brayshaw on field. If Banfield scores well will leave Dangerfield on the field. If not, will put Kelly on field. In your case, Barry plays first so I would put the E on him.

Tommo09

Need to replace Keefe and Coffield in defence

Who do I pick?
I already have Doedee, Naughton and Murray

Holty

Finlayson definately. Hard to suggest anyone else as not sure on their js.

Tommo09

Thanks guys. I picked both those guys up

Abel Grant

Just finny left. Could go to Bonner atv$260kish. Or could keep keefe as loopholes/swingset for sic if you have him

Westy

Team is
D Laird, Hibberd, Savage, Bonner, Naughton, Doedee – Finlayson, Murray
M Martin, Mitchell, Zorko, Fyfe, Cripps, Coniglio, A Brayshaw, T Kelly – Banfield, Barry, Holman
R Gawn, Nankervis, Olango
F Franklin, Roughead, D Smith, Deledio, Fogarty, L Ryan – Fritsch, Keeffe

Brought in Deledio and Bonner for Barlow and Coffield Perhaps it's a shark move – perhaps I'm just Deledusional.
Happy with all my team that have played so far. Unlike my AFL Fantasy team where I put the C on Zerrett!

H4kwer

Which option?
1. Naughton, Billings, Venebles & 108k in bank
or
2. Naughton, Petracca, Christensen & 40k in bank or
3. Billings, Christensen, Venables & 7k in bank

Tyruddanaut

1. Fo sho

Maverick

1. No brainer

Abel Grant

Bonner, Billings, fwd rookie (or MacPherson)

KSinny

Which two rookies to field in the mid out of Brawshaw, Holeman, Kelly and Banfield

DacZawson

Brayshaw and Holman/Banfield, I'd keep Kelly benched

TommyC99

Worth swapping Keeffe for O’Connor? Or keep him to keep that switch with Sicily

David C

You need your rooks to be playing R1. Can probably get Keeffe as a downgrade target later.

Tyruddanaut

Yeah, JS is everything

TommyC99

Fairo, just means I can’t loop Sam Murray using keeffe

TommyC99

Kelly, Bont, Zorko or Pendles? Have Kelly but named in forward line so concerned he might spend a bit of time there

DacZawson

I'd go Kelly or Zorko but less so with the other 2

Tyruddanaut

Wasted my VC on Kreuzer l, who….. yeah

I’m going for a bit of a POD with Zorko captain this week, I mean what do I have to lose. Last year I was coming 50,000 at R2 and came back for a spot at 3,000 at R22 (I’m trying to block r23 out of my head)

Post_MaSloane

Stef Martin always plays well against St Kilda, I'd back him in for a monster number or HOA's, which should benefit Zorko.

Finnius

I really hope you didn't go through with this.

Gord29

I did along with Merret and krezuer. Also started danger 🀦🏻‍♂️

Caleb

3 options here guys for F5: 300k In kitty..
1.Upgrade Langdon/venables/fritsch to Sicily??
2. goldy to nicnat so I can afford tracca (viney out for 8wks)
3. Bank it for the rnd 3 bubble just Play two forward rookies fritsch & one of venables/ZGL

This is doing my head in πŸ™

Tyrone

3. Bank it . Cash generate from rooks

Aaz

Am thinking of swapping Danger for coniglio, keeping the cash and hopefully bringing danger back by round 5-6. Should see a nice rise in price by cogs and let me assess how danger is tracking before spending 745k, allowing for a price drop or if he's killing it bring him straight back in. Would love some thoughts on this as I'm still unsure.

ChewyOnYa

I’m considering doing the same Aaz, either that or down to Parker and hoping he averages 110 as a fallen premo

Abel Grant

Love it man. Cogs will score well

Aaz

Cheers lads, locked and loaded coniglio, hopefully he has a big one

ChewyOnYa

Do I take
1. Parker as a premo
2. Coniglio (premo if does well, step up to danger if flops)

Caleb

Parker. Proven and JLT was superb

pod

Parker

Aaz

I'm going with 2 Chewy for that same reason, win win situation really

Holty

Been a boring start for me so far. 2 games down and only had 2 players on field. Guess the positive is they are Cripps and Doedee who i was very impressed with in his first game. Looking forward to the rest of the round to see how my side shapes up.

Post_MaSloane

Ablett came out and said he's going to play as a pure midfielder, rather than a mid-fwd. Little bit worried for my Duncan pod

Maverick

For season or just round 1 Sloane?

Post_MaSloane

The season. BHJ said it was the first conversation he had with Chris Scott. To paraphrase, 'I'll be playing midfield, the rumours of me being a mid forward are a bit wide of the mark. I know I'm 33, but I've still got a lot left in the legs. Get me in there.'
*not exact quote

Maverick

Hmm this makes things interesting I have been tempted by him all pre season thinkin his a mid-fwd now even more so as a pure mid.. but I’d have to lose kelly or Mitchell in the guts. I can see Duncan Selwood n danger all helping with points not stealing them like ppl say. Thoughts?

Post_MaSloane

They are all beasts, and will still all score well. Duncan didn't go below 90 after round 7, and 100 after round 15. We all know Danger and Ablett are the two best Supercoach scorers of the last decade.

Duncan plays well off a wing, but where he is real damaging is as a run-with player getting clearances out of the square. Of course a run-with player is still handy on the wing, but with the decrease in midfield time we could see Duncans score drop by 5 points a game, taking him out of the top 10 mids.

The benefit of Duncan though is that GAJ is such a good quarterback, and Duncan could really be targeted as an outside runner alongside him. We also have to consider that last year Scooter, Blicavs, Guthrie and Menegola all spent time running through the guts and Duncan was still a linchpin in there. Having said that, if GAJ really is playing as a pure midfielder, we will see a lot of centre bounces with the big 3. GAJ will have a massive year IMO, but I'm not picking him because it's a lot to pay for such an injury prone player.

I'm still going to run with Duncan, as the wing is still one of his preferred positions. But I may be forced to do a corrective early if it looks like he's going to be missing out.

INPieman

He's not playing all season in the midfield. He's 33 & now as injury prone as they come. He's past being that player. When he plays forward he's a menacing headache for any team. He will split his time between the two. That is when he plays

Post_MaSloane

My thoughts as well Itchy Nuts. Imagine how damaging their line up will be this year, when Selwood, Duncan and Guthrie are in the guts, Menegola on a flank, Gaz in the pocket and Hawkins and Dangerfield as side by side Full Forwards. My mouth is salivating

Maverick

Selwood is well n truly priced at unders. Juicy prospect but so much value around that price already makes it tough

Daniel

Of course he's got lots left in the tank, he stopped playing full-on at GC after his injury a couple years ago.

Willymack1234

Who’s going Lobb over Sicily? I know I am

INPieman

Has Lobb started his preseason yet?

pod

lol I can't go near him.

Willymack1234

I’m taking the risk

shemmistwarehouse

tossing up two options
1. sicily and heeney
2. savage and mclean

at the moment going with option one but could easily do a panic trade before kickoff

TommyC99

Is Oliver still a good pick or should we look to make hm an upgrade target due to the injury cloud?

Maverick

another preseason increasing his tank & Gawn rapping down his throat this season. Cant go wrong. It was a slight knock its nothing

Finnius

gun.

JohnDJ59

I'm a huge fan of Clarry,had him from the start last year,was my second picked player in the mids this year,but as soon as I heard about the Knee knock,I traded him out,same as Danger,they will both be upgrade targets for me.

Derek

I’m starting to move back to the idea of starting with Dangerfield this week.

5 mins before Thursday’s game I traded Danger to Dusty, with the idea of keeping $100k in bank to trade Dusty back to Danger in round 2 or 3.

I had already decided I couldn’t have both Danger and Dusty because of my Round 14 bye problem. I have Fyfe, Parker, Heeney, Laird, Mills & Billings with R14 bye.

It is obvious if this was later in year you wouldn’t waste 2 trades to trade him out and back for missing one week, but it is only a 1 trade cost.

What is 1 trade worth? More than 60-70 points, the diff between a decent rookie score and a Danger replacement score. And that is all it will be as I was planning to hold the cash. Now if you were to spend the extra $100k that creates more calculations, on what points will that extra spend get you, maybe another 20-30 points, but then next week I wake up and I find there is $100k missing from my wallet, can’t get Danger.

Looking at the comments here and elsewhere, it seems the elite players are all keeping Danger, they can see the future and know it is a long way to the finish line and having Danger is vital.

Pay the Price.

So I’m starting Danger and also have Dusty and a heap of other r14 bye players. To balance the team, one has to go.

But Who? I have $66k to spend.

Mills was my first thought, I have a bias towards him as my son played a lot of footy with him, but I don’t have cash to upgrade much.

Billings is my second choice, but buddy and Menagola both r14 byes.

What about RGray? If it’s ok to start with Danger, Why not Gray?

As you can see my head is spinning and I’m sure there are others having the same thoughts, love to hear what people think.

DacZawson

I think the main concern with Gray is that he'll need to be replaced by a bench rookie twice before the byes. I think it'd be okay if we had some decent forward rookies but there's every chance someone like a Ryan or Giles-Langdon could average 40.
I'd be leaning more towards Wingard or Dixon if you were to go a Port forward

Derek

Don’t like any other Port Forwards.

Gray wasn’t high on my list, I was just looking at upgrade possibilities

I did think about Billings to Hogan and Mills to Hibberd.

Borko

Derek, I actually like your strategy of switching Danger to Dusty (I think we need to start at least one of them). If you also have Mitchell you could try your luck without Dangerfield and re-assess in a few weeks (would help your bye situation). I didn't make the switch so feel I need to hold Danger as I don't want to be chasing both of them during the season.

pod

All the elite players are going for rank so will trade Danger for another uber but leave cash available to trade him in as soon as he returns.

Derek

Not sure about that. A trade is worth more than 60 pts

pod

Say you trade in TMitch or Ablett for Danger and you chuck the VC / C on him and he scores 150-160 which obviously doubles, then it becomes a good option.

Derek

If I was to go without Danger, TMitch would be my selection. That was original plan, and then to trade Dusty back to Danger.

pod

I like it, I have a similar plan.

Derek

Team is

Laird, Shaw, Mills, Doedee, Murray, Finlayson, (O’Connor, Murphy)

Dangerfield, Dusty, Fyfe, Oliver, Kelly, Parker, Banfield, Holman (Garlett, Barry, Kelly)

Gawn, Lycett (Olango)

Heeney, Billing’s, Devon, Petracca, Lobb, Venables (Fritsch, Ryan)

$65k
(No Cyril)

Maverick

Lloyd named on a wing. Mighty tempting to start him over hibberd at D2. Thoughts? Defence is where to take the risks this season

Derek

Where they get named doesn’t mean anything.

Post_MaSloane

For me, defence is the place where I'm not going too risky. The forward line is so hard to pick the top 8, that any pick outside of buddy or Heeney is basically a risky pick. Therefore my plan is to lock down a big chunk of my backline, with Hurley, Laird, Hibberd and Savage all in my starting team.

I would pick Hibberd over Lloyd, Hibberd is the general down back whereas Lloyd will get impacted heavily with McVeigh in the team. Check out Lloyd's scores with and without McVeigh. However, Lloyd still represents value and is likely to finish in top 8 defenders.

Go with your gut I guess

Maverick

Valid points!
Have posted my side in the comments Sloane. Would love to hear ya 2 bobs worth. Got a huge kitty to play with

Post_MaSloane

I really like it mate! If Libba and Coniglio are locked in, I would probably use the war chest to upgrade Bonner to a premo who you think will end the year in the top 8. Who you think that will be is up to you

We only have 30 trades, and while there is a lot of value to be had, you can't rely purely on value picks and you still want to get as close to your round 23 team as you possibly can. Trades are golden

Maverick

Thanks mate.
I have been flirting with bonner to savage or sicily for a stronger D3 or venables to sicily at f5. Probably can’t go to wrong with either. Should save me a trade down the track like you mentioned they are priceless.

Jason

Should I put Naughton on bench and get Riley bonner or keep naugton on field and get O'Connor Geelong

Caleb

Sicily or lobb at f5?
Upgrading either Langdon or venables to one.

Dogs

Had the VC on dusty, will be keeping the C on danger. Taking the hit this week as I already had to change my structure a little to accommodate the higher priced rookies, and not sold on the job security of some of the rookies named round 1.

Maverick

Def: laird hibberd bonner naughton finlayson Murray (doedee murphy)

Mid: danger Mitchell kelly Fyfe coniglio Libba brayshaw Holman (kelly barry banfied)

Ruck: goldy gawn (olango)

Fwd: heeney lambert McLean smith Langdon fritsch (venables Garlett)

A huge war chest of 308k! Where can I use most of it?
Libba And coniglio are locked in so not on them thanks
Maybe my f5 or d4? Throw some ideas n players my way guys.

Derek

Have a look at Lobb for F5

Maverick

You believe lobb will outscore a sicily or petracca?

Derek

Have a quick look at GWS draw and who Lobb is up against. Except for Sandi in round 4, but he will score well around ground, he has chance to start very well and get some good match fitness and decent scores.

I have Petracca at F4 and Lobb F5

I would go Petracca ahead of Lobb

WhySoSerious

How does the community feel about Tim English? Low scoring potential but could worth it for ruck cover.

Maverick

Tempting but his got a low scoring potential. I like having the loophole of olango (& banking 30k) with all my other rookies playing though. Probably a lot of ppl in this boat. Just depend on what suits your structure and game plan.

Derek

I’m really surprised he is playing. Dogs have Roughie, Campbell, Schat, Boyd and Tregrove all ahead of him.

He must have really improved over the pre season

Did he play any JLT?

Johno

Lobb or McLean?

Derek

McLean seems expensive to me. I think he will do ok, if he gets more midfield time he will do a bit better than his price.

Lobb seems a bargain if he will be #1 ruck

Fletch

Luke Ryan, Sicily or mills?

Willymack1234

Ryan

Derek

Are any of the expensive rookies worth it?

How many are people starting with.

I have None.

I did have Naughton until O’Conner was named.

So far Dow and Fogarty have been underwhelming.

Right now there are just enough cheap rookies to fill the rookie places.

BVC article was outstanding plus the piece in the second JR magazine on Cash Generation taking about how cheap rookies make more cash, make me keep away.

The_Blacksheep

The only one I have is Brayshaw. He could possibly avg 80-85 and be worth $400,000 in no time.

Defying_Madness

I only have Naughton currently because I am only 2 defenders deep in the backline. I like Brayshaw but he just costs a lot of money so I will likely pass.

Derek

Unfortunately I didn’t see Brayshaw play in JLT. Do not sure what he can do.

I saw Naughton play, he is a tall key defender! Played ok but he will be a very slow burn.

Russty_

Brayshaw's much better than Naughton I reckon, he already looks the full package..can do it all.

Derek

o’Conner is out with ankle injury

Russty_

Bugger!…I'm gonna hang onto him anyway, good for the swing.

Juzzy

Only have Naughton Derek. Agree, slow burn, but good job security and looks like a decent intercept mark.

Don't have him but am very interested to watch LDU despite his crap JLT. Terry Wallace reckons he was a cut above all in the last draft. Think I might have just enough cash to get him as a corrective trade if he lives up to the hype.

James

Not many people picking Walters from Freo, am I missing something?

Maverick

I can’t trust Rossco

GreendaleFC

Can't be certain as to how much midfield time he'll get. Is a big risk big reward selection.

Rory

Petracca or Sicily?!

Derek

Have a look at Melb draw. Quite SC friendly.

Viney won’t be playing for a while. Lewis will be playing in defence this year.

There is room in guts for Petracca and he has Max tapping it down.

Sicily will have some great games and some very poor ones. It will depend on the opponent making him accountable. If he is forced to man up he will score 30’s because he isn’t a natural defender. He wants the easy intercepts and long kicks. Too risky for me, but as a hawks fan I want him to do well.

Pitch72

Petracca, his style and impact = big points.

Rory

Petracca it is. Upgrade fritsch Langdon or venables? I like venables JS but guts saying him

Derek

I like Venables a lot. Will put him on field

Defying_Madness

Decided to come ask the community for some advice before I do something stupid to my team. First time I have gone set and forget in the ruck and I doubt I will do it again.

D: Laird, Ryan, Naughton, Murray, Doedee, Finlayson (Murphy, O'Connor)

M: Martin(VC), Titch, Kelly, Oliver, Zerret, Fyfe, Holman, Ahern(C) (Banfield, Kelly, Barry)

R: Kreuzer, Gawn (English)

F: Heeney, Billings, Smith, Sicily, Lobb, Fritsch (Ryan, Venables)

$44k in the bank

Not the greatest start with both Zerret and Kreuzer going down leaving me with half my hair pulled out. Should I be looking to keep them, trade them or do something else. Going Zerret to Danger is a move I have been considering however with limited money in the bank it would require some shuffling.

Wake me up from this nightmare community

BrownlowBoy

Could trade English down to Olango and see who you can get for O'Connor?

Defying_Madness

yeah but then if Kreuzer only misses 1-2 weeks I am screwed as I will have no cover.
I was looking at Luke ryan to Cox leaving me with a lot of cash to go Zerret to Danger next week.
Now with having so many rookies who are not playing and barely any options I am unsure.

BrownlowBoy

Could also just leave O'Connor and hope he plays?

Defying_Madness

I could but I don't feel comfortable with both Ahern and O'Connor who could end up as donuts. Might need to find a way to fork out the cash for Brayshaw but nothing seems great to me.

hedski

Can't make up my mind on the Kreuzer conundrum.
Do I wait for next week and assess, possibly trade him out or bring in Flynn (DPP) for Olango and slot Cox into f5 for Bundy to provide cover?
I kind of like the idea of being able to cover Kreuz/Gawn if they miss a week instead of sideways trading them, Kreuzer looked like going big before the injury, can't find any news yet on how bad it is.
I have the cash to make the move and still have $100k change.

Defying_Madness

Yeah I am stuck with the same dilemma. If I trade Ryan to Cox via Sicily I have cover for my ruck and I have enough cash so I can upgrade Zerret to Danger next week.
A really tough choice

Russty_

Hey Hed, I reckon do that..Coxy could turn out to be ok, Christensen could reinjure his shoulder anytime, then you can wait on Kruez and hope he's ok within 2.

neil demons delight

Agree Russty wait but I would give PEDERSON a lot of thought J S will be good for 8 weeks. I traded Kruz for Nank minutes to go . have a dead set Guns n Rookies set up best 2 def best 6 mids cept martin gawn/ nank and two best forwards p only two midpricers flog SICILY and LAMBERT but MY 16 rookies need to make 200 each will take time

Russty_

Hey Neil yeah Cam will do well without T-Mac taking points, I had him last year and he turned out to be a nice pod. I'm a bit more midpriced madness than you in my squad, I have about 6 of the buggers…no risk, no reward hah.

David C

Could go English at R3 as cover. Put your loop on another line.

hedski

Cheers guys, think I will go with the Flynn/Cox plan, if Kreuz is more long term I can trade him to Ryder and have coverage for his bye.

Armonk

I'm going the Cox route. Figure we need to make the most of the unlimited trades and save a trade on kruze of you also have Merritt. Gives an easy route to danger for those of us that took him out.

Marty

Cox is a burn man…i'd evaluate the extent of Kreuzers injury…plenty of good options if you don't want to take the risk (Goldy, Witts, Martin, etc). Just using a valuable trade you might need later on