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TEAM REVEAL – POST MaSLOANE

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Five days. That’s very, very alarming. Five panic-filled days of Supercoachers all over our great nation scrambling to assemble the perfect structure, filled with unbeatable premos and money-making rookies.

This should be easy, right? After all, we’ve had since January – and yet many of us are filled with dread, rather than filled with excitement, about the beginning of the season for our beloved game.

I thought I had mastered it, the unstoppable team that would take me to $51,000 ($1000 from claiming glory in my annual cash league). And then Nic Nat became a doubt.

So I restructured and created an even greater team, this one bigger, badder and burlier than the first. Of course, disaster struck again. We were hit with the shortage of forward line rookies, and my head started spinning. What do I do?

A thousand thoughts swirled in my head, each one riskier and more absurd than the last. It was then I took a week off to find my inner zen among the great Zhangye Danxia mountains in China, under the mentorship of Bodhidharma, the legendary Zen Master, and winner of the first ever Supercoach, way back in 572 AD. (When $50,000 was worth a lot more than it is now!)

It was on the 7th day, after a week of total spiritual awakening, that I began to see the 2018 season more clearly. And it occurred to me:

This is going to be a season like no other.

We’re going to have to take some risks. We may have to rely on faith, rather than facts, to achieve glory. We may have to endure the pre-season mockery of our Guns n’ Rookies friends, whose teams are filled with all the best $500k+ players.

And the scariest part of all – we may have to pick Scott Lycett.

DEFENCE

‘Wow, that’s a lot of money tied up in the backline! Defenders always drop in value, you could be using that money to upgrade your other lines!’

If these were your first thoughts, you make a good point. Defenders DO have a history of dropping in value, and premos can often be picked up sub $500k. But where are premierships won from, community? The backline!

A solid defence is the foundation of a solid attack, and premiership winning teams ALWAYS have a robust defensive structure. This is why my strategy this year is to set and forget a large chunk of the backline, so I can focus on securing the other lines when the superstars stand up and reveal themselves.

Michael Hurley, Rory Laird and Michael Hibberd are almost guaranteed top 6 defenders, so I figured I would secure their services for the 2018 season, rather than banking on a strong forward line, where the top 8 may not be as cut and dry.

Shane Savage has swapped with Kade Simpson almost daily, but I have decided to take a punt on Savage, as he averaged 100 points a game in 2017 after becoming a rebounding defender. I’m confident in all my defensive rookies provided they are named, they all played well in JLT and would be hoping for a good season.

MIDFIELD

Again, I know what you’re thinking. I always know what you’re thinking. ‘Post MaSloane has been sucked in to Mitch Duncan’s JLT hype! He can’t survive in Geelong’s midfield!’

Logically, that makes sense. With the big three at Geelong, how could Duncan possibly be afforded the midfield minutes he had last year? But if there’s one thing I learnt from my enlightening week with Zen Master Bodhidharma, it’s that faith and belief will always trump facts and logic.

Did you know that scientists have proven that bumblebees cannot possibly fly? And yet, what do bumblebees do? Bumblebees fly anyway, purely because they couldn’t give a damn what scientists tell them they can or can’t do.

Think of Mitch Duncan as a bumblebee. Besides, Duncan is a pure midfielder, and while Dangerfield and Ablett will rotate through the forward line, and Menegola will play on a flank, the only place I can see Duncan playing is on a wing or in the guts, the two positions he played for the 2017 season where he averaged 109.8 Supercoach points. Been locked in to my team since before JLT.

The other midfielders sort of pick themselves, despite the abundance of uber-premos we have in the engine room for 2018. Patrick Dangerfield, Josh Kelly and Nathaniel Fyfe are all locks in my book, as they will finish among the top few scorers for the season.

If Patrick Dangerfield misses one week, I’ll keep him and play another rookie on field. If he misses two or three, I may downgrade him to Tom Mitchell and keep the remaining cash in the bank. This is the only way I can see that will allow me to get him back in.

You can make cases for a lot of other players, but the problem you have is you can’t pick them all. Bummer. Rory Sloane was in my team majority of the preseason, but has been edged out by Patrick Cripps for two reasons: his price and the round 14 bye.

In one of my all-time terrible picks, I had David Armitage for the entire 2016 season. He had come off an average of 109.7 points the year before, and I started him for around $600k. He averaged 87.3 that year, playing as a tagger, and was placed on my NEVER AGAIN list.

Unfortunately, I have a habit of making the same mistakes twice, and Armitage is back in my team. He looks to be playing as an inside midfielder again, and if he can average 95 points before the byes he’ll make us a stack of cash, while generating more points than a rookie in the process. I wish I had more self-discipline if I’m honest.

RUCKS

Max Gawn should be in every team. We keep harping on about him, but for the love of God, please pick him. You won’t be disappointed.

Scott Lycett I’m not as keen on. He played terribly in JLT, and his job security is anything but guaranteed with the return of Nic Naitanui. I don’t really want to select him. But someone I do want to select is Matthew Kreuzer, and I’m hoping that Lycett will make a quick bit of cash so that I make an easy upgrade to Kreuzer once he loses his downright obnoxious price tag.  Fingers crossed, community.

FORWARDS

This is the line I’m most unsure about. I like F1-F4, I really do. Isaac Heeney should be one of the top forwards for 2018, so he’s locked in. Michael Walters and Devon Smith both have ‘breakout’ written all over them, with an increase in midfield time, so they’re locked in.

The pick I’m most excited about, though, is David Mundy. I wrote an article in the preseason explaining why he is a solid selection, especially with the uncertainty we have in the forward line this year. This pick could really set me ahead of the pack, or leave me lagging behind, but it’s a risk I’m willing to take. Mundy’s a gun. I’m backing him to the hills.

What I’m not as sold on is the structure, with two on-field rookies exposed. We have next to no forward rookies available, and even the ones we do have don’t seem to be good scorers, with the exception of Bailey Fritsch. We have two options.

We could panic and clog up our forward lines with uncertain keepers and mid-price risks, or we could have some faith that the Supercoach gods will deliver us what we need. I’m banking on the latter. Pending available rookies, this is the structure I’m gonna ride all the way to $50,000. Wish me luck, I’ll need it.

NOTES

The keen eyes amongst you wiill  notice I don’t have any rookies exceeding $123,900. Every year I pick the cheaper rookies, as I generally see more upside in them despite potential point output. The money you save in not selecting top-tier rookies can be spent on making sure your premiums are the best of the best. Job security can be an issue, but I’m happy to cull cash cows early if they show signs of slowing down.

Round 14 terrifies me. I only have 6 keepers currently playing in that round, so I’m well and truly up a well-known creek with no paddle. I’ll cross that bridge when I come to it, though.

So there it is, community. My team for the 2018 season. Pick it to pieces if you like, but just know that I’m very high-D Choleric, and enjoy arguing just for the sake of arguing, so the only opinion I generally like is my own. Still, I encourage you to voice your opinions!

Good luck for 2018, community!


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Connor

I swear team reveals just confuse me more… Like the Mundy selection alot! Savage at D4 looks great but unsure it warrants selecting Lycett (gotta take risks to win though)

Carleton

I agree with you whole-heartedly.

Borko

I like the Lycett-Armitage mid price combo (although neither are in my team ATM). If Lycett fails it does give you an exit plan … Arm down to rookie, Lycett up to Nank (just need about $30k in the bank). Team is fairly well balanced … could shift some resources from def to fwd to make most of rookies

INPieman

This is a unique team. Much better than seeing one cookie cutter team after another. I've personally gone cold on Lycett. If Vardy was out for minimum half the season I'd be be more interested. I'd have a plan B if Fritch isn't named. He's battling with Bugg & Hannan for one spot. I didn't think much of his defensive pressure in the JLT either. Only 4 tackles in 2 games has me concerned he might not be the certainty everyone thinks he is. And if he doesn't kick goals he won't score. I have Fritsch at F7 & no Fwd rookies onfield. Good luck Post

Connor

Pieman what does your team look like!!?! Assuming Christenson at F6 – must've gone short somewhere else??

Dani

He won't tell u much, never see his team posted

INPieman

I've never posted my team & never will. I play in cash leagues & I compete against many fine warriors on this site. But I will say that if the rookies role they way I hope they will I will skimp in defence. Sub 200k rookies will role out after D2 M6 R2 F6. Not a secret formula. Might work might not. Seeing post my teams is interesting. But it's how you use your 30 trades during the season that defines whether your season is successful or not

Claire

Pie you are a wise man and no wonder you do well in SC. Do you have an opinion on why Rance is not popular. Is it his price or that he doesn’t average highly.

INPieman

Hi Claire. I know your new to the game. All key position players regardless of forwards or defenders fluctuate in price like no other players. Rance, Buddy, JJK etc can go anywhere between 30 & 200 on any given day. And as a result when they have a bad game they plummet in price. And that will happen to Rance. You will be able to pick him up for much cheaper during the season. Buy low sell high is the name of the game. It's the stock market of footy

Russty_

Apparently Rance thinks about quitting AFL 10 times a day…so maybe his heart's not in it anymore like it should be.

Lazza

Where did you finish in 2017?

Rick Grimes

I'm also going deep in forward line. I feel that's where rookies will be hard to fiind. Plenty of def rooks and really, most will give you 70 points vs 95-100 for a premo. Doesn't seem worth it to overspend . Use that money to get an ultra premo mid who can clock 120-130. That's my thinking anyway.

INPieman

Agree Rick

Derek

I’m thinking Venables WCE will get a game round 1 and go quite well getting some time in the guts.

INPieman

Venables doesn't get enough of the ball

Russty_

Ryan could be the same though..not getting enough of it, and Fritsch might not even start aargh.

Derek

Ryan will play forward, Venables should get midfield, if he plays

Shake_n_Bake_

Does use it well thou.

Corey

Tom Mitchell or Josh Kelly

Defying_Madness

Titch

Russty_

Can't go wrong with either really Corey…Titch was really hard for me to get into my side last year when I didn't start him, he's such a disposal king he gets a lot of tons, just not big tons like Danger does..but he's very consistent, which means his price doesn't drop much.

Derek

Hawks have no depth in there midfield so Mitch should get it a lot. Decent ruckman.

Kelly does have plenty of competition in the GWS team, but is in a better team. Doggy rucks at GWS

I would go TMitch

neil Demons Delight

Cheers Posty nice write up enjoyed it but forward rookies is the downfall of the team .Garlett Fritsch Poholke and Ryan are all risky big time I am in the Pieman.s camp on this one Even a rookie F 6 scares me. At a minimum I would have a mid price forward for savage and maybe the pies defender mihocek , keeping to your sub 123 policy , at a minimum and try to squeeze Bell or Bundy in But definitely not cookie cutter and probably too risky for mine Cheers

Spag301

Tom Bell or Allen Christensen?

John

i love the Duncan and Mundy picks i'm going the same in the forward line (2 rookies) it's a big risk but i'm happy with my overall team

Russty_

I noticed 1% of coaches have selected Docherty and Williams in their sides this year…there's some PODs right there!

TRIGGA_HAPPY

Better luck next year.

Russty_

Intelligent Autopick..ain't too intelligent lol.
Don't know why SC don't strike these guys off the list if they're out for the whole season.

Tyruddanaut

Not on the long term injury list

Derek

Williams will play later

Ben

boys will billy longer be st kildas number 1 ruckman ?

Russty_

Not sure Ben he was last season but Hickey is challenging, they're both a bit shite really, not consistent enough to consider.
Longer is listed as a 'Test' for a hip injury too.

Derek

I watched interview with saints coach about 3 weeks ago who said if they were to play now, hickey would be ahead

Russty_

A bit sad how we haven't been able to find a decent Ruckman since McEvoy left..need someone more consistent than both those guys.

Marty

Yes if Billy remains on the park. Hickey didnt show much last year.

Mark

who is the better option out of naughton oshea and coffield? is going with 2 or all of them a good or bad idea?

Russty_

Hey Mark, some people have been saying only pick the lower priced Rookies, to generate more cash, but I think having a few of the higher priced ones in there could be essential.
Naughton's job security is even better now with Marcus Adams going down with an ankle injury for 10 to 12 weeks.
Andrew Brayshaw in my opinion, is too good to pass up, could even end up being this year's Oliver of last season.
You may save money by only getting cheap rooks in but will they keep their job long enough to make you enough money to upgrade?
Naughton and Brayshaw will, maybe Coffield too, and he has valuable DPP status.

Not sure about O'Shea, last time he averaged anything even half decent was 2013 and 2104 (74).

Mark

cheers for the insight Rusty, I have mills as my D3 hoping for him to have a big season. I was considering brayshaw and might trade kreuzer to nank for some coin to slot him in at D4.

neil Demons Delight

Spot on Russty Naughton and Brayshaw though expensive are a must have Don't know so much for RAYNER

Russty_

Yo Neil, yeah Rayner was surprisingly disappointing in the JLT, could still surprise us all by ending up good but how many number 1 draft picks do though?…so much pressure.

Shake_n_Bake_

Needs to build his tank.

Marty

Naughty better job security. OShea may not start round 1 and not entirely sure Coffield is guaranteed a rd 1 gig yet.

Marty

Naughton not naughty….freudian slip lol

Doug

JOM (M7) and Ryder or Cripps (M7) and Lycett?

Holty

Hell Doug you are going real deep in that midfield. Bit concerned about ur forward line. How many forward rookies you plan on having onfield come rd1?

Doug

My team is really good. Cripps at M7 might be a bit deep.
Laird Hibberd Naughten Doedee Murray Finlayson – Murray Mihocek
Dangerfield Kelly Oliver Merrett Fyfe Parker Cripps Holman – Barry Kelly Banfield
Gawn Lycett – Haynes
Heeney Billing’s Smith Petracca Christensen Frisch – Ryan Venables

$100 left over
Should I upgrade my ruck and down Cripps to JOM/ Armitage?

Holty

I like doug. Amazed how you have fit all these players in with the salary we have. Awesome stuff. Imo keep Cripps at M7 as your team will be different to most others

TommyC99

You need to be leaving a lot more cash than that

sc tragic

Murray will be busy. maybe another. rookie on the bench

John

Which 2 do you select between

Brayshaw, Dow and Brodie and why?

Russty_

If you mean Andrew Brayshaw, he's my pick of the 3…just gets heaps of the ball, has the body ready to go, Dow went missing in his last JLT game, and Brodie's in a crap team.
Reckon Freo will do much better this year than the last few.

Derek

Brodie’s JS is the best.

Has less competition, hall will be missing first couple of weeks, he is best bet

David

I'm looking for one more premo midfielder and I'm not sure who to get. Right now I have Titch, Kelly, and Fyfe. I'm between Pendlebury, Merrett, Crouch, Oliver and Zorko. Do people think that Pendlebury can get back to his best? He obviously had a disappointing last year, but in the past he has been a points machine.

Russty_

Hi Dave, I'd say any one of those 4 after Pendlebury, could be wrong but my preference would be Oliver.

Derek

Oliver will have a big year. This is his 3rd year, traditional breakout year for the elite players.

His TOG should increase this year, only 76% in 2017, that alone will put 5-10 pts on his score.

He will ‘rest’ forward this year like he was in the JLT and let him kick a few goals. Kicked 2 in the second JLT, all of last year he only kicked 4.

Big Max is back tapping it to him. Clean ball will allow him to kick it more this year, more points.

Lewis will be playing in defence, so less midfield time for him, plus it will free Oliver to go forward.

Oliver is a big lock

neil Demons Delight

So he is a chance for the NORMIE derek

Derek

I heard that Cyril wants to be the first Rioli to win 2.

Clayton

Where did you find that tog stat?

Lazza

Depends on what your objectives are.
If you are looking for total points then Oliver or Crouch.
If you are looking for game breakers who will give you the advantage over your mates .. then Zorko.

Holty

If there was no doubt Buckley was to play Pendles in the guts all year, he would be my first choice at his price but who knows what Buckley will do. I have Oliver in my side and left Kelly out. People have called me crazy for this but i feel my reasoning is sound. Oliver has a fit Gawn and Kelly no longer has big mummy. I see Kelly losing points because of this and Oliver gaining some with the help of Gawn.

Shake_n_Bake_

Ur right Holty as a pies supporter if Pendals played purely in the guts id consider but hes been used more as a utility.

David

Thanks for the comment, I'll stick away from Pendles then.

THE SALTSHAKERS

Pendles value is in his disp efficiency was leading the pack for a bit last year. Talking 76% to 79% range. Yeah offering immense value but hasnt agreed who knows what Bucks doing. Should run the Rolls Royce in the mid, if were gonna get anywhere should run Sidey outta fwd pocket and keep Pendles where he does best, on the ball. Not a fan of playing him outta def he gets lost….

run the capt from the guts…

Big on Treloar + Pendles….last year was first year didnt start Pendles was very alienating when hitting those scores. Pendles and Swan worked well together, havent really seen that same prowess understanding with Treloar or Adams.

Youd expect Pendles to go over 110 to 115 for the year….i think Treloar to hit 110+ got robbed hard last year

THE SALTSHAKERS

*but i agree who knows what Bucks doing? Went at a pt a min in half game JLT2.

Was missing like most Pies JLT 1 but when put on the ball in last qtr was instrumental in a few clearances and getting involved in the only real fwd movements we had in that last. Was lost in defense.

gator59

Thoughts on Mitch Wallis. Roughy and Lambert for fwd spot

Russty_

Hey Gats, I actually like Roughy of those 3…he can have slow patches but traditionally is a strong finisher, he's in my fwd line.

gator59

Yeh thinking the same Russty.. cheers mate

Holty

Roughy was one of my first picked this year. Not sold on the other 2.

POD Fiction!

What are peoples thoughts on L. Ryan? he's in my team atm as D3, just going with my gut from watching his jlt and his form last season.

Lazza

I’m tossing up between him and Hurley… lock Hurley in or go Luke and upgrade another line.
I reckon he is a big chance for top 10 Def .. can he get to 5 or 6 … yes, but is it this year is the question.
Worthy of consideration.

Russty_

Got a feeling Luke Ryan's gonna be a gun Lazza, I'm starting him.

Leeds17

Feels a little Tommy Sheridan like.

paul

I have finally gone with M Williams as my D3 after lots of homework. D1 Mc Govern , D2 Savage, D3 Williams,D4 O'Shea D5 Murray D6 Finlayson.Went Mc Govern as he has held off signing his contract.He wants more money, so he wants to play this guy.

John

With 220k, who is the most reliable F5?

Russty_

No one's reliable at that price, but you could try Paddy McCartin, he might average 70 if he doesn't get whacked in the scone again.

neil Demons Delight

Mirra done a hammy iced up

gator59

Nooooooo

Russty_

Crap!..who do we put in now for him…Murphy from Adelaide…Mihocek?

Defying_Madness

Do you have a source because I can't find anything online. Unless you aren't referring to David Mirra

Derek

I read on hawks website that said he played well for Box Hill but finished the game with his hammy iced. Nothing more said

Defying_Madness

Ah thanks Derek I found it now. Damn gotta feel for the bloke after finally making it into the AFL. Hopefully it is nothing significant and he can play some games for the Hawks soon.

Russty_

Thought he might've got a start in round 1 too with Birch out for awhile…hope he gets a decent run this year…at 26, it could be his last chance.

Derek

There are a few ahead of him. Duryea, whitcross glass all got more JLT time than him. Not sure we will see him play.

I like Murphy from crows as a good chance to play at same price

neil Demons Delight

Melbourne site practise game casey vs box hill iced up

Holty

This preseason just seems to get more depressing.

TRIGGA_HAPPY

The happy place is half full but still missing some big time JR players.

So I would to invite patch, BVC, Jock, swans 2012, SC addict, shake n bake, russty, rick grimes, dontblushbaby.

Hedski not sure what the great mans movements are in regards to SC as he has retired so as you gave up your spot last year you are next in line.

League code: 123493.

As there are only limited spots unfortunately the happy place is invite only.

Looking forward to the titanic battles again.
Bring your A game fellas.

Russty_

Hey Triggs, sorry mate but I'm already maxed out in my Leagues bud, I'm already in 2 or 3 with you I think so I'll look fwd to locking horns in there with you mate.
Offer my spot up to a worthy opponent, plenty of good coaches in here 🙂

neil Demons Delight

rusty this is the best competition you will ever get The Happy PLace is the ultimate one to win try to get in mate I was maxed out but pulled out of one of gators He understood

Russty_

Thanks Neil, but I don't want to crap out on people I've already committed to mate.
We're all in heaps of leagues together already, it's gonna be hard enough beating all of you guns!…especially with my team this year haha.

Defying_Madness

Hey Trigg, I would be interested in joining if some spots free up, if not it's all good. Cheers

hedski

Cheers Trig, but I'm fully booked mate. 👍🍻

Holty

Im keen Trigga. Let me know if i qualify

TRIGGA_HAPPY

We go aways back Holty.
U can have russty's spot mate.

Holty

Im in trig. Cheers mate.

johnno2908

I’m keen if you will have me. Finished 10th 2 years ago, around 1000 last year.

Rick Grimes

Cheers pal. I'm still struggling to put a team together. Seems a tricky year.

Russty_

Get in there Rick…you'll work it out next week mate.

Finnius

If there are any spare spaces I would love to join

Borko

1. TMitchell (M1) + LParker (M5)
OR
2. DMartin (M1) + PCripps (M5)

Both look pretty good!

Also, is PAhern an option at F8 for Round 1 loophole (have Cameron at R3) … than will hopefully play later on.

seen_burns

Number 2. not sure if Ahern will get a game this year, if so it may be 1 or 2 later in the season.

Doc_1

I’d go option 1.

Parker primed for a big one. Durable.
Titch will give you consistent tons and your more likely to pick dusty up at a cheaper price later on than Titch. IMO.

I’m using Ahern as my starting loop (mid/forward is gold, and if he plays any time after byes will be a bonus saved trade).

Nick

Any thoughts greatly appreciated.

DEF: Laird, McGovern, Coffield, Doedee, Murray, Finlayson, Keeffe, Mihocek
MID: Martin, Mitchell, Kelly, Fyfe, Parker, Walters, Brayshaw, Banfield, Kelly, Barry, Holman
RUC: Gawn, Nankervis, Olango
FWD: Heeney, Billings, McLean, Petracca, Sicily, Stephenson, Fritsch, Garlett

$100K left in the bank.

Ross

Start again or select AUTO FILL to get a much better team… To have $100k in the bank especially this season is ABSURD.

Russty_

Bit harsh I think, don't see Nick's team doing a lot worse than a lot of other teams, and having 100k in the bank is a good thing.
Nick, you could chuck Garlett in the mids for your fwd swinger or replace Walters with more of a traditional midfielder, underpriced pick like Coniglio, Libba, someone like that.
Actually, you could just bring Walters forward and put Sicily back and leave Keefe in the fwd bench
Seen a lot worse teams Ross, you might be judging a bit harshly.

Danielson

Brayshaw and Petracca OR Brodie and Mclean. Why would you pick one over the latter. Cheers community

Derek

Not a big fan of any of them.

Haven’t seen Brayshaw play, they say he goes pretty good but too expensive. Brodie has good JS and will do good, Hall out for a couple of weeks will help.

Not a big fan of McLean at his price. Won’t get enough midfield to score big. Too many other midfield slash forward types at the dogs.

Petracca will go ok but won’t be top 10, prefer Devon at that price as a possible keeper. I do like Melbourne’s draw and looking closely at Hogan to make better cash.

Danielson

Hi derek, all I need from mclean is about a 92+ average. He averaged 85 last year and is only bound to get better. Hell at least get to 90 and even so will finish as one of the top forwards for the year. Petracca is someone i’m hoping can break out this year and average 90. If he doesn’t he is one quick trade down to sicily or a sideways trade to walters or the likes after I free up some cash. I’d go with devon smith myself if I didn’t already have parish in my forward line. Parish is someone who has been locked in my team since supercoach was open. He was a top 5 pick and is more of a question of when he’ll breakout then if he’ll break out. He’s going to catch us off guard one of these years and average 90 and i’m hoping that this is his year. As an essendon supporter it could be a biased decision, however I definitely see him averaging higher then smith and getting more midfield time then smith.

THE SALTSHAKERS

smith went to Ess on agreement wanted to play more midfield, they agreed and JLT centre bounce attendances he went to lots. 83sc jlt 2 with 5 frees against isnt bad….he was their best JLT 1

Rippedoff

Headsup for everybody.
Don't get sucked onto the heraldsun subscription scam. They promised 8-months of foxtelnow along with better analysis tools online readership etc for $41 pmonth paid in advance. Foxtel itself is 44 p/month so great deal I thought and signed up.
3-Days later HS send me an email to advise that my 8-months of foxtelnow ends on April 3rd. How is that legal?

Russty_

I'm gonna ring them tomorrow and find out wtf this is about. I don't use Foxtel now anyway, just wondering if Supercoach Gold or subscriber only articles changes?

gator59

Same thing happened to me last season.. They reckon I subscribed for Foxtel which I didn't and it come down to changing my bank details so they couldn't take no more money….. By geez did we have a good old barney over the phone

Inteldesign

If all the footy happened to be free to air foxtel would be in a hole right now. Hate giving sharks my coin, but SC has too much sway. You could bite the bullet, or make a fuss. Good luck, but the sharks are circling.

Russty_

Foxtel must be losing millions from Netflix, with is much better and 20 times cheaper, and you can live stream it without having to bloody wait for it to download… if you're into TV shows and Movies, it doesn't have sport which is Foxtel's only saving grace, and fox still tries to charge money for old crap movies separately that were released 5 years ago..on demand. What a crap strategy.

They need to wake up and offer their customers value for a change.

Russty_

ok

Holty

Big shout out this preseason to the community. Normally i do my own research and have a fair idea what my team will look like come r1. However, new job, 2 little boys (including a 10 month old) and moving house has made any chance of research very difficult. This community have dug me out of a hole however and although i had a fair idea of the premos i wanted to start, the community have pretty much selected all my rookies and convinced me to start Mclean and Smith. Cheers once again and good luck all to the upcoming season. Hopefully someone on this site takes out the $50,000.

Russty_

Same to you Holty good luck mate and hope you can get some sleep and get settled in soon mate, enjoy the season 🙂

Derek

Nice work Holty. Good luck for the season.

hedski

Good luck to you and your family Holty, I'm hearing ya bud, moved house as well over new years and got a young fella due in 3 weeks (hopefully mid week so I can get my vc picked).

Browncow

Amen to that Holty! Good luck this year.

Holty

Good luck with ur new arrival. Hope all goes well.

Russty_

Good luck with your new little one Hedski, big congrats mate, that's great!

Shake_n_Bake_

Alot to look fwd to Hedski!! Another pies supporter??!!

hedski

Ha ha, no pies supporters in my house Shake!!

Matt

While some are saying this is different I can’t see too many PODs really. The most stark ones are Hurley, Duncan and maybe D.Smith. The structure is pretty usual I feel for this year too.

I reckon a number of your rookie selections are stretching at best, definitely worth going over the rookie scores n TOG% for JLT1+2.

Also I reckon Mundy will spud it. His body is lingering, his quite rapid decrease looks to continue and averaging 90 or so (his likely average ceiling) all don’t make him a very convincing pick. Lycett is your own arsenic, if he gets picked he might do more damage to your team than if you get him as a loophole.

All the way on Hurley, Walters, Kelly etc Great picks who aren’t the total cookie-cutter types often getting overlooked but are by far the among cream of the crop (except Walters).

Savage is maybe your second worst pick. Reckon the guy has done nothing over his career to suggest he’ll ever have a really good season. Reckon he’ll flatline about 80 ave

Rick Grimes

Let's see your team.

Matt

You guys asked for my team here it is (for the moment at least):

DEF:
M.Hurley, R.Laird, H.Hartlett, M.Williams, A.Brayshaw(MEL), S.Murray [Bench: Finlayson, Garthwaite]

MID:
T.Mitchell, Z.Merrett, Fyfe, Parker, Cogs, Armo, A.Brayshaw(FRE), D.Barry [T.Kelly, Banfield, Holman]

RUC:
P.Ryder, S.Martin [Bench: D.Cameron]

FWD:
C.Wingard, M.Walters, J.Caddy, T.Bell, D.Fogarty, Fritsch [Bench: Keefe, Giles-Langdon]

And people I'm strongly considering working in: Beams, Zorko, J. Kelly, Rockliff, C.Dixon, H.Bennell, Taberner, Cripps, Oliver, Heeney

So strike away

Russty_

"His body is lingering"?…what does that mean, he has B.O and it's lingering in the air?..he floats around like lingering fragrances?
Lol..He may be 32 mate but he's still capable of a 90 to 95 average, and that's more than enough to be a good forward these days.
Agree with you on Savage though…he's fool's gold and could end up really bad, but..he could also have a Roberton year and have his best year, (even though Roberton fell away after a good start) all depends on his attitude as that's what has been holding him back…(why he was dropped for so long last year)…but Savage hasn't exactly proven himself in 9 years.

You talk a big game so why don't you show us your team?

Wow

Show us your team rusty and grimes.

paul

Time will tell on savage however he had a great backend of last year and a 129 average JLT .I think he has turned the corner and it's all full steam ahead this year.Worth the risk i feel.

Derek

Any Hawks fans know how far away Ceglar is? He did ACL in same game as NicNat. Heard he has had some back issues. Doesn’t look like Pittinet is ready for AFL yet and we know that the Hawks love the 2 ruckmen.

Will affect Big Boy

Ceglar is a good cheap option, but I don’t think is will play very soon?

Russty_

Hey Derek, afl.com.au injury update says he's 4 weeks away, cheers.

Browncow

There was an article in HS last week saying he was good to go. Maybe the knee is right and back has gone in the meantime. Might have been handy waiting for Kreuzer / Ryder mid year.

Jordan

Can someone please convince me to pick patty Cripps, he fits my bye round structure so well but I don’t think he is capable of becoming a premo.
Also thoughts on libba?

Russty_

Hey Jordan, he's definitely capable of becoming a premo….the guy has a lot of talent, i had him for a few years when he first started, he already has been in 2016 ( averaging 107) and could've backed it up in 2017 if he didn't break his leg. (97)
Libba, you'd have to believe the hype the media's been saying about him…"he's training the house down"…blah blah, but will he lose interest and average 79 again?…I wouldn't want to gamble on that.
He had a brilliant start the last few seasons but then fell away…not what we need from a mid.

INPieman

If I don't start Danger then Cripps is on the shortlist as a replacement. The addition funds is very useful. The Dogs have too many mids. So Libba is a big risk

Marty

Cripps is a gun but Im gambling on Libba. Think he is back to his best after an insipid 2017. Footy is a great teacher think he might have learnt a lot.

Jordan

Parker or Cripps

Russty_

Cripps higher ceiling I reckon.

Leeds17

Toss of coin really, Parker's DE% hurts him, Cripps' tendency to handball & FKA hurt him. despite being much shorter Parker is a more dynamic forward when he rotates through there Cripps is good when he drags a mid forward for a mismatch but see nothing to suggest he can beat a real defender.

Parker's big scores usually come with high 30s disposals &/or multiple goals, Cripps usually clearances and tackles.

Have a good hard look at their 2016 seasons I think that will point you in the right direction.

paul

Parker he ON for 2018.

Shake_n_Bake_

Usually both slow starters but Cripps was always injured coming into the season proper. This yr it looks to me hes up and running if Kruzz is right rd 1 hes in for me. Cripps could easily be a top 10mid.

Marty

Horse is saying Parker will play mids and forward but then again Cripps probably will too.

NoLanguage

Both

seen burns

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Spag301

Allen Christensen or Tom Bell? Or are they both traps? Really struggling for decent forward line rookies.

Cheers Community

David C

Bell looks like he will score more but Christo has better job security. I would have liked to see how Bell went with Beams in the team so still a question mark there.

Leeds17

Christensen can get you an 80+ average from HF role with minimal midfield time, Bell can't, if you can find some certainty that Bell is going to be a 70%+ mid he's not a bad pick, i can't find that certainty personally.

Derek

Christensen is a good player. Has the ability to be top 10 forward, seriously he does.

Wow

Maybe 5 years ago derik

Derek

He still has a lot of ability. We have all forgotten how good he was going to be

He is a steal at $267k

Marty

Traps imo prefer Bell to Christensen.

THE SALTSHAKERS

Bell had 11 tackles JLT? big unit

David C

Armo played inside in JLT1 but didn't do so well in JLT2. There was talk of him spending time in the forward line. I think he will be a bust.

paul

He is going to make some nice cash for me so don't you miss the ATM now.

dontblushbaby

Andrew McGrath in 12% of Teams where as Callum Mills is only 5%,I would have thought more ,am I missing something ? Any Bombers supporters know if McGrath expected to get more Mid time ?

seen_burns

McGrath has been playing more mid time, and is expected to be given more, but McGrath seems a bit more riskier now since Marty Gleeson went down, that could potentially mean a little more back time for McGrath, Mills is sort of a trap I fell for him last year.

gator59

On an interview with him he said he's gunna go through the midfield more often this year

Derek

I look at McGrath as Mills Mk2.

High draft, rising star winners, playing half back, just waiting for their time to come in the guts.

Last year Mills was only second year and in hindsight was too early to breakout. 3rd year is when the elite have their breakout year, so I am very keen on him this year and have him in my team.

He has trained a lot with the midfielders although more as a defensive mid. I can see him becoming a part of the midfield depending on who they are playing and if he is needed in defence. Therefore he is still likely to have a few 70’s, but he will also have a few 100+.

McGrath is only 15k cheaper, and doesn’t look good value.

Anyone who is considering Lloyd should seriously look at Mills. I see similar output for $75k cheaper.

HarryH

Yep got to say I didn't go with Oliver last year and it cost me. But look at history- how many 2nd year players break out like that? Off the top of my head, I can't think of another example.

I'm a Bombers man but just can't pick McGrath. Watch him now avg 100!

Derek

Maybe Oliver will really breakout this year!

THE SALTSHAKERS

McGrath doesnt do enough for mind just yet.

Sydney have upto 12 players theyre gonna run through midfield apparently. Read it somewhere this morning????

Id go Mills over McGrath but he did get better as year went so was a sleeper…

paul

Good luck

JDP

Sicily or Tracca?

Marty

Truck for mine. Sicily will do well but given he takes angry pills will give plenty of free kicks again which will eat at his score.

redherringfc

Is anyone going Kreuzer to start the season? I know he’s pretty expensive and listed as a test for round 1, but barring injuries aren’t we looking at Gawn and Kreuzer being 1 and 2 come years end? Picking him now saves a trade and most other options seem to have a lot of risk.

Defying_Madness

If he plays I am pretty sure I am starting him. He will be top 2 come years end and I don't even think he is that overpriced so I will just lock him in now.

redherringfc

is you backup plan Lycett? i’m starting to think i’ll just go Kreuzer and if he misses round 1 so be it. I see negatives for pretty much every ruck besides Gawn.

Defying_Madness

If he misses I will take Ryder or Nank

Finnius

Lock for me.

Pantelis

shane savage or jake lloyd???????????

Dos

Savage. He averaged over 100 in the second half of last season and looks as though he will be taking that rebounding defender role going into this year.

Defying_Madness

Not a fan of either but would go Lloyd of those two

Mr.Brightside

Not starting with Danger if not named, do I go with a Rookie – Brayshaw or Brodie and left with 140k or go with JOM or Armitage ? thoughts please,Thanks

Marty

I think JOM will do well this year given a full preseason. Armitage will have some good games but with Steven, Dunstan, Acres, Billings, etc there is more competition in the mids.

DacZawson

I’d go for a rookie

Marty

Interesting team and very different to those people including me who are going weaker in defence. Interesting comments by the Swannies saying that Mills will play more midfield this year. Anyone thinking of him at his bargain base price?

neil Demons Delight

Whit field is an interesting player A new role has him similar to the Shaw role. Giving him plenty of thought could even replace DANGER and bank the 200k ready for the danger return Problem is the cost of a trade

Paul

You need to look at Mitch Duncan’s backend last year 122 average last 10 games.Also He will cover the last minute change if Danger is taken out then.

Paul

Plus more points with Danger out.

Derek

He would be a lock if he had defender status.

Dos

Thoughts on Caleb Marchbank at D4?

redherringfc

His numbers from last year indicate he could push to be there abouts. If he cracks it then he averages 90 or so and you save 100 to 150k on a known premium. If he stinks it up like last year then you hopefully make a bit of cash and then waste a trade.

I’d suggest either spend the extra $$ on a trusted premium or go with a rookie.

pod

Which way is the way to go?

I start Cox at R2 with a 500k mid at M6
or
Nank R2 and JOM M6

DacZawson

Nank

Defying_Madness

How about Kreuzer and a rookie in the mid?

pod

If Kruezer didn't have a set back I would pick him. He's injury history concerns me. He had a good year last season but prior to then he was in and out of the team regularly.

Derek

Cox is interesting. I would have him at F5 with a Lycett or Cameron at R2 and a cheap DPP at R3.

Depending on who plays first, gives you chance to swing Cox to R2 if Lycett/Cameron does poorly. You might need a solid Mud/Fed dpp as well

pod

I'll definitely consider your advice cheers Derek.

Marty

How is Cox's job security? Only played 9 games last year. Seems a huge risk but could pay off.

Andrew Mcleod

I think you are destined for failure with that starting team

Wadey

DEF: laird, Mcgovern, Mills, sicily, Angus Brayshaw, sam Murray (Doedee, mihocek)
MID: dusty, titch, Fyfe, Walters, Libba, Petracca, Andrew Brayshaw, Banfield (kelly, Finlayson, Holman)
RUCK: Goldstein, Gawn (cameron)
FWD: Mundy, j Cameron, d Smith, Impey, t Bell, Fritsch (Keeffe, l Ryan)
Feedback is welcome! 7.8k in bank.

THE SALTSHAKERS

few unknowns there…

No point in having Walters, Petracca, Libba in mid as they wont finish top 10 mids…youll have to burn those trades to premos.

Theyd go much better as fwds, as Cameron, impey and bell will require upgrades as might Munday….

Avoid midprice madness unless they keepers or easy stepping stones like JOM + Armo who can go 90 to 110

KKP

Thoughts on Mills or Sicily would be greatly appreciated

Doc_1

Lads,
Thoughts on Whitfield v Parker V Cripps for M5??

Sc_Wow

Whitfield could break out and score similar scores to the Shaw of old. Parker is proven in avg 110+, looks at where he went poorly last year and access why this was. Cripps TOG time has been high his whole career, will need to improve his disposal numbers or goal kicking to score much higher than he has in the past.
I’d back either Whit or Parker and set yourself apart from the Cripps pack

Doc_1

Thanks Wow
I had gone Whitfield but was wondering if I was missing a trick overlooking Cripps. Nice to know I’m not totally mad

Sc_Wow

Seems like you’ve invested your money from picking Lycett into defence, with the Hurley and Savage picks, as your midfeild isn’t very deep and your fwd line is very thin.
Not sure about this as there are plenty of solid defensive rookies, Hurley is set to drop in price and Savage is quite an expensive risk. If you go with Lycett I’d be putting in 6 premo mids and going deeper in the forward line.

Post_MaSloane

Thanks for the input, Wow. My reasoning behind that is that for me, I believe the backline is the easiest line to predict the top 8. Savage may not be there but the other 3 will. With the midfield, there are plenty of absolute uber-premos, and in the forward line, that is too tricky to even take a guess at. I'd prefer to lock in my top 6 defence selections and work the rest out as I go

murray

Here is my final team guys, any comment or criticism welcome

Laird, Lloyd, Naughton, Doedee, Finlayson, Murray (L Murphy Mihocek)

Mitchell, Martin, Kelly, M Crouch, Fyfe, Bontepelli, Coniglio, A Brayshaw (Banfield T Kelly, Holman)

Gawn, Nank (Olango)

Heeney, Billings, Mclean, Petracca, Keefe, Fritsch (Ryan, Narrier)

Thoughts please

Doc_1

Bonner (D3) and Buddy (F1)
V
McGrath (d3) and Petracca (F4)

Think McGrath/tracca will outscore, but may both need upgrades v buddy a lock.
Have laird and mills at d1/2.

AB13

Current team thoughts please… 2.5K left

Laird, Hibberd, McGovern (WCE), Brayshaw (MEL, Mid), Coffield (Mid), Murray, Keeffe (Mid), Mihocek

Dangerfield, Martin, Mitchell, Oliver, Merrett, Coniglio, Jaeger, Brayshaw (FRE), Holman, Finlayson (Def), Fogarty (Fwd)

Gawn, Draper, Olango

Heeney (Mid), Smith, Petracca (Mid), Christensen, Rayner, Fritsch, Ryan, Narrier

My issues and reasons …

McGovern, toss up between him and Sicily not sure what to do there?

Keep Danger despite his high price and potential round 1 unavailability or downgrade to Rockliff who has been locked in, and then use that money to upgrade Draper to Hickey?

I'd like to fit Walters in my FWD line, but I just cant make it fit.

Angus Brayshaw, JOM, Coniglio, Christensen have all been picked with a view on their undervaluation. Current prediction suggests 1790 ish but without Danger and with Rockliff and Hickey its more 1830 ish.

Doc_1

Need to get a 2nd ruck that will play. Draper no chance.
Cheapest option I’d consider is Lycett.

Need to downgrade one of McGovern/Brayshaw, Coniglio/Jom to create the cash for an upgrade.

AB13

Who should I downgrade McGovern to? Sicily?

Russty_

No offence Ab, but forget about Draper and Hickey and get a decent R2.

AB13

I traded Dangerfield down to Rockliff and brought in Hickey, do you know any better alternatives?

Russty_

You should probably get Danger back in mate, he will probably play this week, and consider Nankervis, Goldy maybe?…you might need to trade someone else out to get em in. Better to start with 2 good rucks. Forget any Saints rucks.

AB13

I downgraded Mcgovern to Sicily, upgraded Hickey to Ceglar and upgraded Rockliff to Kelly (GWS). I'd like Danger but I think his 750K will fall early so I might be able to upgrade in a few weeks.

Russty_

Ceglar won't play for awhile AB, get someone like Nankervis, Goldy, Jacobs if money is an issue.

Fish

Anyone interested in playing in a cash league?

Not sure if this is the right forum to ask, but my mates and I have had the same league for the past 8 years and always finish top 3-10%. We've lost 2 of our members and are obviously stressed with only 2 days left to fill- hence reaching out to the Jock Reynolds community.

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Russty_

Try posting this in the new podcast thread.